Herman Cain: “If ObamaCare had been implemented when I caught cancer, I’d be dead.” Is cancer still a thing people are “catching” these days? If so, everyone stay away from Herman Cain, because he had it! Whatever, there are still a few weird morons who believe that ObamaCare will axe murder to pieces whatever sweet private health insurance plan millions of dollars will buy a pizza executive these days, just like Medicare and Medicaid and government health insurance plans have been murdering executives for decades with the same efficiency that a total lack of health care murders ordinary uninsured Americans. MURDER MURDER MURDER. Video of attempted murder victim Herman Cain after the jump!
Herman Cain says that he is not dead because he “was able to go to the doctors that [he] wanted to go to,” and he “didn’t have to wait six months like you do in other countries to get a CAT scan.” That is what happens in other countries. The entire nation of Canada, for example, is dead.
Oh, these idiots. [CNN]
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Pizza gives you cancer?
Apparently it does. And it's not alone
It's a good start on heart disease, that's for sure.
Apparently his cardboard dough with ketchup gruel brand does. That rat food is one step below chucky diseases.
If you ever saw what goes into pepperoni, you wouldn't have to ask.
can you get cancer as a topping?
Good lord, he's right–expanding health care coverage is bound to KILL PEOPLE.
This is what you lefty skum just don't understand. More health care = more people seeing doctors, right? More people enslaved in Big Pharma's system. And everybody knows that the more you see doctors, the more doctors you see, see? And doctors kill 100,000 people every month, man! Why they have killed this great country, and all its fetii, millions of times over. But you just don't get it, libtard, because you and your lefty skum brothers want to turn the whole country over to the Moose lumps.
Aside: How'd I do?
Not bad. You forgot to mention gays and accuse liberals of worshiping Obama.
Goddamnit, I knew I forgot something.
You forgot that, even though those elitist doctors kill hundreds of thousands every month, we must implement TORT REFORM to make sure they're never held accountable for all those deaths. We can't punish people for being successful at killing.
We can't punish people for being successful at killing.
Unless they're killing fetuses (fetii?). DUH!!!
Wait, no, … wut?
"We can't punish people for being successful at killing."
We can only punish people people for killing, not corporation people.
More people with health care means more people taking cancer drugs. That means less drugs for me! It's like Rusty Limpballs said, giving poor people health care is like giving them a beach house, it totally ruins my summer vacation.
Some other Wonketteer further down this thread just pointed out that that is exactly their train of … is "thought" the right word to use here? They're afraid that if Poorz haz access to medical services, they will somehow lose out.
When did we get so greedy and selfish?
Throw in some homo-bashing just for completeness.
If ObamaCare had been implemented when I caught cancer, I’d be dead
If only.
Life expectancy is higher in most of those socialized medicine countries. Canadians, for example, life three years longer than Americans. Infant mortality is lower. I'm glad Herman Cain survived cancer, but other Americans are dying of treatable diseases because they didn't want to risk their financial security when they felt a lump.
Herman Cain has no time for your "Facts".
Did you hear the people in the crowd say, "Yeaaah" just as he finished saying that? The dumbfuck didn't miss a beat nevertheless.
That's why I always use those disinfecting wipes at the grocery store on the push bars, I don't want to catch cancer.
Anybody who says things like "when I caught cancer" is too stupid to be President. Of anything.
No kidding. "Hey boss…I won't be in today. I think I'm coming down with cancer".
"I caught a nasty case of cancer from Bill the other day."
That's what you get for not wearing a condom.
After W, no one is too stupid to be President.
I laugh. I weep. I fear.
I vomit.
I had the 24-hour 'Big C' once, in the summer. Summer cancer is the worst.
Worse than "mono"?
I hope I don't catch cancer when I'm trying to balance out all my humours!
They have a leech for that.
That's why you need to wash your hands all the time. All the time. Or you will get cancer.
Maybe he 'caught' ass-cervical cancer because he refused to get vaccinated for HPV, since science schmience, yet insisted on getting fucked by horny teenage boys (those are the only kind that will do)
Dipshit, you just go to whatever fucking doctor you can afford just like before. Nobody is fucking stopping you.
Shhh – you're interrupting a good dog whistle.
Sometimes, even though you AND your employer are paying out the ass for a fucking gold-plated Cadillac health plan, your doctor's too booked up to see you for a month. Or at least that's what his fucking scheduling person told me when I called because my face was exploding in agony and I needed to figure out why right away. "Go to the ER," was her sage advice.
I wish Obama Care would have been implemented earlier then.
Far be it from me to wish … oh, fuck it, me too.
It must have been–how else did my mother die in 1972 after catching cancer?
The entire nation of Canada, for example, is dead.
Oh, stop it, you tease!
"That movie 24 Hours? That was real!"
I think Herman has not fully realized that with Bachmann in the race, he just isn't crazy enough. I don't doubt he is trying, but it just isn't enough. And now along comes Perry.
Yeah, the "crazy conservative black man" schtick didn't work too well for Alan Keyes either.
That's because white folks don't mind if black folks catch their crazy, but they'll be damned if they'll let the crazy n***** have any more power than the sane ones!
That's because Herman has top-level health insurance. If you're stuck with lower-tier insurance that rations care unlike government insurance, or worse have no insurance at all, then the cancer would probably have killed you.
A dear friend of mine, a cancer survivor (over 20 years cancer-free) found out in Canada while showing his work that his liver cancer might have recurred. (He found out because he passed out and was rushed to the hospital.) Upon returning here, he called his doctor and was given an appointment approximately 10-14 days later. He died the day before the appointment. So, yeah, Herman, sorry to hear your story, but you can just toss my fucking salad. Whiner.
It's also, frankly, instructive to note what, by his own account, he credits his ability to afford high-end health insurance for himself: the fact that he was able to routinely deny his employees any health insurance whatsoever. (the first clip)
Yeah, hahaha, it sure would have sucked if any of those thousands of poor shlubs working for Godfather's Pizza in the 90's "caught cancer", instead of Herman Cain, because they would have been screwed.
First, I feel like crying that Clinton's plan didn't go through. By now, health care wouldn't be an armageddon death battle that, as my husband and I grow older, I fear we will lose.
Second, Cain is not being truthful about his numbers (Clinton calls him on it) but he is civil. Compared to the 'baggers telling Obama about the liberal eco terrorists. This is a different universe.
Third, it shows Cain's real truth: It's a lot more important that the people at the top make as much money as possible, even if 2/3 of his workers suffer. If the Clinton plan had been in effect, the lost workers would be able to buy into a different, gov't health plan. This would've saved CEOs from being evil bastards that see nothing wrong with putting marginal profit ahead of people's lives, even if they didn't want to do it. But hey, God forbid it should've passed.
Also? Dems get all the smart presidents. Clinton and Obama can talk turkey like that, but W would've shit his pants, and none of the yahoos (yes, even you, Mittens) could give a coherent, intelligent discussion like that.
No, no, you've got it all wrong.
Up is down, black is white, housing loans keep people from buying houses, and health care (oops, I mean socialized medicine) causes cancer,
Shut up. You're rich. You can pay for your own treatment regardless of whether your insurance covers it. Some people aren't so fortunate.
And you know what? In countries with socialized medicine, you can still pay for your own care, although most don't. But when you're rich, you can pay for anything you want, including elective office. Doesn't mean you'll get it (viz Meg Whitman), though
The Sultan of Brunei's sister in law was recently charged some $23 million for her cancer care in the socialized-medicine-loving nation of Singapore. So,yes, you can get low-cost socialized health care side-by-side with top-notch capitalist "whatever-the-market-will-bear" healthcare. A basic level for everyone, and if you need more, you pay for it.
actually, just shut up.
Herman Cain has no time for your "empathy".
And "logic".
Besides, mentioning Cain is rich is Class Warfare.
His employees back when he CEO'd Godfather's Pizza, justforinstance. There's a lovely clip from the 90's, linked in a reply to the post above yours.
If your headline is correct, they just can't do it quick enough, Im thinking anal cancer on this one.
Since he is a
HUGEcomplete and total anus, cancer anywhere would suffice.That is an insult to people with anal cancer.
Screaming about nearly dying from cancer is a great way to assure voters you're fit for office.
Was he asleep during McCain's disastrous campaign, or is he just thicker than two short bricks?
Yes, I prefer that my President keeps their illness secret and have their live-saving surgeries done on a boat in high-seas.
http://www.npr.org/books/titles/137865915/the-pre...
We refuse to submit to these Gummint Death Panels. We much prefer the Free Enterprise Death Panels run by insurance companies.
Ah, yeah. The blood, sweat, and tear stains on the letter they sent me telling me they can't boot me for "pre-existing conditions" like, I dunno, teenage flatulence, anymore was worth the struggle for the fucking health care bill. I had to fight with the fuckers for six long years to get my knee surgery approved even though *their own paid stooge* stated in his medical report that it was a *needed* surgery. The difference in their attitude just between last year and this year has pretty much been worth it.
Agreed. Because I actually did get cancer and there was no way I could ever get a flu shot again from those monsters without Obamacare. Died? Shit.
I would hate to think someone didn't profit from my short battle with cancer.
if no one profits, it's like dying from cancer isn't even meaningful.
If a tree dies from cancer in the forest, and no corporations profit from it, does it count for anything?
I'm going to have to visit my doctor, as the stupid, it hurts.
And here I was just starting to take Herman Cain seriously.
The only way I could take him seriously, would be if he had a whole roll of duct tape over his mouth.
Herman Cain's business experience, as Head of Godfathers Pizza and later as the Chairman of Nabisco's Oreo Cookie Division, gives him the savvy he needs to be elected president.
ISWYDT
Is the irony of Cain's being head of the Oreo division too obvious to point out, or what?
Because before "Obamacare", all of the people who weren't super rich could go to whatever doctor was willing to provide health care at a clinic or take whatever insurance they had or accept reduced rates or long term payment plans. . I mean, all the low income and regular income people who "caught cancer" were deciding whether to go to Mayo Clinic or Johns Hopkins or Sloan Kettering.
I've lost too many friends to cancer + no/inadequate health coverage to find this putz amusing.
Cain/Cancer 2012!
He's already at the bottom of the heap now that the KrayZWhiteGuy has jumped in.
Well, they might have got the cancer, but they sure didn't make any progress against the stupid.
That would have necessitated the removal of the brain, and you know the prognosis in those cases.
Compared to stupid, cancer is an easy win.
In 1999, I was halfway through a 2-year guest lecturer job at Osaka University, where I was enrolled in Japan's horrible socialist universal health insurance. I
experiencedcaught chest pains, took the monorail (really!) to the hospital, and was seen within 15-20 minutes. EKG, doctor visit, blood work, clean bill of health. My cost, roughly 50 dollars at the time.Now, unemployed in the US of A, I have the Liberty to be completely wiped out by a major illness. As they say, you never really come to appreciate America until you have lived overseas.
No shit, as a child I was diagnosed with a somewhat rare form of epilepsy and my family was really poor but because the Queen's neurologist was one of the surgeons at my local hospital , he became my neurologist as well, we could never have afforded that if not for my beloved NHS.
Thank goodness they saved you for us!
Soshalizm is great.
God Save The Queen (of Wonkette).
Glad you're OK, but this?
"took the monorail (really!) to the hospital"
is awesome.
Loved the monorail–it was like Living In The Future, except that sometimes the train cars smelled oddly like cat pee. They were always clean, but just smelled like somebody's tabby was angry at them.
Yeah, Herman. As a survivor of gubbiment healthcare, I can say that I would have been much deader in US America. No money. No operation. No life.
1) Lots of US American talking points about waiting lists in Canada City. There are but you fly to the top of the line if you're in really bad shape. It's this little system called triage aka based on need not size of wallet. When the docs thought I had a carcinoma I flew up to the top of the list. It was discovered I did not, I ended up waiting. Personally, I'd rather wait.
2) Waiting lists are common as everyone gets care.
i live in Canada and confirm this. It also helps keep the hypochondriacs at bay. win/win.
I had a baby in Canada, and yeah, I shared a room, and yeah, it was good to know that ALL the babies and Moms got this care.
2. is the point they rarely address. Assuming that the population of health care providers remains relatively stable, a sudden influx of people who had no access to health care into the ranks of those who do *will* necessitate waiting time. Law of supply and demand. But these dipshits simply ignore the 47 million or so who don't have that access and address those Americans who do. Ignoring also the fact that some 60% of those who declare bankruptcy do so over unaffordable medical costs AND *have* health insurance.
Yeah but we pay 3 times as much for our middling care.Our job creator insurance and health care system executives CARE. Just ask Rick Scott. They care about protecting their huge unnecessary bureaucratic interests.
I work at one of those privatized Freedom Hospitals in US America, and I had to schedule someone for to see a new MD for routine care, and there was (*gasp*) a wait list! Even some non-routine stuff, depending on the doctor, can run into a 2-3 month wait list.
And god forbid you need a short-notice PET scan and your insurance is Cigna (say). Because the place we send people for urgent scans sure as hell don't accept that one. Guess you're going on a three week wait list for your urgent diagnostic scan!
(And just as a point of reference, I work for one of the major hospitals in New York, which has one of, if not the highest number of health care professionals per capita of anyplace in the country. So, if it's still an issue here…)
at our medical practice we stopped accepting Cigna over 5 years ago, cuz they suck, and we're about to stop taking Aetna for the same reason…unfortunately Anthem/ Wellpoint criminals insure almost 60% of ALL *people* in our state and these assholes are stone cold DEATH PANELZ!1!1!
Look, they're profitable death panels, and since it's the wisdom of the market at work when they deny/ration care, that's OK. However, any restrictions on care of any sort in a universal system is horrible, since it's socialism, even if –or maybe especially if–it means more people are getting better care.
My favorite thing about that particular talking point is the notion that under our current system you never have to wait for an appointment and can just up and see your doctor whenever, just like getting a haircut at SuperCuts.
"just like getting a haircut at SuperCuts."
Often with the same skill level.
Headline of the day (Washington Post): "Were You Killed By Michele Bachmann?"
Every time she opened her mouf. That dumb broad is now worrying about the rise of the Soviet Union. Two decades after it fell.
Seriously, your Negative P is disappearing at an alarming rate; have you seen your soshulist death panel doctor about it?
And all those people who died of cancer before Obamacare did so because…?
Snark off: my mom died of lung cancer. Healthcare would not have prevented her death, but it *would* have at least let her know that what she had was not pneumonia, which is what she thought before she finally got desperate enough to go to the ER. She never got out of that hospital, and no one was prepared for her sudden death (which would have hurt just as much if we'd seen it coming, but at least all of us could have dome more to prepare for it…
Asshole.
Sorry about your Mom. That sucks.
I'm so sorry.
She should have had some gentle doctor's care, not the crazy E.R.
(My Dad died of Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma in Communist Great Britain. He lived 2 years longer than the doctors expected.)
My dad died of prostate cancer. He had Medicare. Even Herman Cain's platinum health care couldn't have saved him, because denial. By the time he complained enough that my mom made him go to the doctor, it had spread to the bone.
I had a point — oh yeah: A lot of people who "catch" cancer die from it, even now, no matter how much treatment they can afford. Anybody who survives it should be grateful (or thank God, if so inclined) for their good fortune, and the healthcare that helped them; and should not try to deny similar help to others.
Or, as you more succinctly put it:
Asshole.
Agreed, he is an asshole.
Callyson, are you my sibling? The same EXACT thing happened to my mom. I had to go to Mobile with all the money I could scrape together to get what she needed. She died quickly like a rat that didn't deserve better.
That is so fucking sad. I'm sorry, both of you, that this kind of shit has to happen. People deserve better.
Thanks Pristine. Kids are dying from not having access to health care. What kind of monster would let a kid die?
unfortunately Barb I see it all the time in our medical practice and have had three family members die from cancer in the last 15 years- Dad, youngest sister and oldest niece- and ALL of them and their loved ones had to deal with the stress of these motherfucking insurance companies delaying/ denying care they need RIGHT NOW! I HATE these fuckers with the heat of a thousand suns…I've worked on the 'business' side of health care for over 15 years and we see it EVERY FUCKING DAY!
Ouch, sorry to hear I'm not the only one that happened to…we're not biological sisters since my mom died in Santa Barbara, but I hope both of our moms are happy in heaven…
I hear ya and feel your pain…my Dad *caught* cancer a couple years after our 50 y.o. family construction business went bankrupt (during the FIRST Bush recession!) and he lost almost everything…the only *insurance* available was thru some bullshit state program that delayed his care for months, and yes he was probaly going to die from the aggressive form of cancer but the stress from the bullshit *insurance situation* caused him and my Mom a lot of sleepless nights wondering how they were gonna pay for his care, and NOBODY needs that shit when facing a life-threatening disease…I have worked for a medical practice for the last 15 years and I HATE these greedy motherfucking insurance companies, they cost our practice at least 50% of our staff's time dealing with their bullshit instead of helping people get better…and I'm currently working on moving to Ontario, Canuckistan BEFORE the next fucking election!
Meh. Cain is just gaming the system for his inevitable "I have anal cancer thats spread to my brain stem" announcement(which will be available as a press release in his office).
At the least he's got hemorrhoids in the membrane.
I love that Cypress Hill song
Oh, yeah, like he needs to tell *us* that. That would be like a "Breaking News: Water is wet" announcement.
That's what happens when you keep your head shoved up your ass.
once again, the dominant question of our time: idiot or liar?
All of 'em, Katie.
Why can't she be both?
The conservative healthcare dream is a machine that can save you from any medical condition but costs so much to use that you will go completely bankrupt if it is used on you.
Well, *you* certainly will, but since it's designed for the wealthy, and not the likes of you or me, it doesn't matter, does it? Libertarian utopia — only the uber-wealthy will survive. Also lots of dumb pretty ladies with humongous boobies.
Health care was much better when you could pay your doctor with pizza or a chicken.
Cancer runs fast, and Herman Shitty Pizza wouldn't have
caught itescaped it if his ankles were shellacked together by the socialist regulations of FD mother-fuckin' R!!!!~
Isn't receiving buttseks the only way to catch cancer?
Something like that, it's punishment if you piss off Republican Jesus.
Mr. Cain, TR Reid would like to have a word with you.
I really did *not* need to read that now that I've decided to renounce dipsomania.
Oh, well, it's 5 o'clock somewhere, right? And there's still some booze left. BRB.
Goddam, that was unsurprising but awful to read. The worst part is realizing that, if you could somehow force one of the 23% to read it, the reaction would be "LIES! US HAS BEST HEALTH CARE!!!111!!! DEATH PANELS!!!"
Did he catch the cancer by leaving his gi-normous, gaping, sieve-like mouth open? If so, Dr. Widestance recommends he keep it closed more often.
lulz!~
Somebody sue this assclown for all the diabetes he's caused.
Pig anus and corn syrup grease cakesPizzas do *not* cause diabetes.PIZZA LIBEL!
Um, he makes it with 3 kinds of cheese.
I myself caught a heart attack at KFC.
Always remember to duck when the help start throwing shit.
Fuck off and die. No, seriously. My dad and dad-in-law died of cancer and they had great (union autoworker) health insurance and I have no doubt that your benefits package surpassed their's by about 1,000%.
I've always been suspicious of those damn Canucks. Real people just ain't that nice. Now we know. They're not RealPeople(tm) at all. They're DeadPeople(tm).
Was this retard really a CEO? I know a pimp who looks exactly like him! Maybe it's him, I don't know!
I did hear at one of the companies, he wrangled a lot of crackers.
And if he had given any of his employees health coverage, he'd be dead by now.
$18 million, made through denying employees health care. Nice work if you can get it, huh, Mr. Cain?
Well, he sells pies of some sort…
Much to my chagrin it will be the same insurance company bastards standing between me and my doctor after “Obama-care” as it was before “Obama-care”. I might add that the only way these insurance companies make money is by limiting the tests and treatment my doctor can do. You sir are either ill-informed or you are lying. Good day to you sir!
Obamacare will warp your mind, curve your spine and lose the war for the Allies.
I can't believe he is making such inflammatory statements about caincer. What a hippocrates.
I may be wrong but I think the mortality rate for humans was 100%, even before Obamacare.
Well, it used to be said that the only certain things were death and taxes. For the richest among us, taxes are no longer certain; in fact, they're highly unlikely. Death soon to follow!
Keep your grubby, poor hands offa Herman Cain's premium health care!
I am so done with this week. These shrieking, lying idiots are really, REALLY starting to get me down.
Cheer up Em, only 15 more months to go until the election!
Well, at least your stocks are doing okay….
HA!! I'm way ahead of you. I don't have any stocks.
And your name-dash really did cheer me up earlier.
Thanks again. Two compliments, I’m honored.
It's friday, and soon you'll have a large beverage of the bliss-inducing variety in your hand, slowly working its way down your throat, relaxing every little muscle and fiber and wound-up spring in your being as you ease into your favourite piece of furniture and kick back, knowing that at least for teh next X hours, you won't have to deal with the usual daily quota of assholes.
OMIGOD!!! I was JUST in Canada last week! THANK BABY JEEBUS I didn't catch teh Canada Cancer or I be dead RIGHT NOW!1!!11
Maple syrupoma?
Deadly but delicious!
Cheese libel!
I made an eye examination appointment and I have to wait an entire goddamn week!!!!
Herman Cain is right: Won't someone please think of the multi-millionaires who can afford to see any doctor and get any treatment they like!
We wouldn't want to sacrifice the likes of Hermann Cain or Rush Limbaugh so that thousands of young children could be happy, would we?
Fuck "happy," I'm thinking "alive." This moronic putz really doesn't realize that epidemics don't ask for your health care papers before taking you out. Or are Richez immune from all disease these days?
You know that God has a plan for all of us (far)right? So… if you get cancer (God gives it too you) you should just make the best of it… don't ask science to save you. Just know that that is your destiny, be a good person and finish out on a positive note.
All of a sudden there is a dearth of Jesustards able to understand English, especially that in your comment.
Make lemons out of lemonade, or something!
You see, the rednecks think you can "catch" cancer the same way you catch crabs after doing your half-sister in the back seat of your '72 Chrysler Imperial, the one you take out for family reunions. So, Cain has to 'splain it like that for them to understand.
I just want to know where you got that pitcher of Michele Bachmann in your av. It's new to me.
I haz a sad!!!!
Republicans are disappointing me! Not nearly crazy enough!!!!
What about claiming Obama did 9/11?? Obama is a Russian sleeper agent?? Promise to bring oil back to 10 cents a gallon?? Nuke Mecca on Inauguration Day??? Outlaw compact flourescent lightbulbs because they emit frequencies that turn you into a communist!!!!
Try harder people!!!
Well then, I guess we'll just have to give him syphilis.
Forget it; then somebody would actually have to fuck him.
I keep using the word shless to describe Republicans, these days, but it really fits. They wil literally say anything. Saturday Night Live and The Onion will be put out of business if this keeps up. They won't be able to keep up.
This used to just annoy me, but now I'm starting to really, really, really loathe these bastards. I knew it was all over when Jon Huntsman was railing against the EPA at the debate, but then had the gall to say that man-made climate change was real, and call him crazy, to get a jab at Perry. Shameless.
To be honest, I am more concerned about how they are going to react in the very likely scenario they lose next year.
I'm not "concerned" so much as "planning," if you get my drift.
Or that FDR caused the depression that Hoover and Coolidge retroactively fixed?
How in the hell did the very word I meant to make a focus of ended up "shless" instead of "shameless"?
You'll notice that no one else questioned your use of it. Either we all understood what you were saying, or we're cowardly pukes who don't dare reveal our significant disconnect with the langwidges of Teh Youngz. Or maybe we just don't pay attention to what we read. Or something.
From the context, I assumed "shless" was just the new term for "closeted entitled douchebag."
I vote for ^^ this ^^ excuse.
The only time I ever correct spelling is when someone misspells something while railing against someone else's misspelled shit.
That's the most enjoyable avatar of the spelling nutsy.
It's pretty hard to resist when someone's pontificating about how Libs r dumm or some such.
Anyway, shless had to be shameless or shitless. And these people are so thoroughly full of shit it couldn't possibly be that.
I assumed it was Yiddish.
Completely O.T. but I bet you CAN get an HP TouchPad for less than $10 today like those stupid ads always claim
If Herman Cain had to die so that several uninsured people could live, that's a trade I'll take in a heartbeat.
The good of the many outweighs the good of the … yeah, of that guy.
oh the humanity.
Cain's Cancer is Giuliani's 9/11.
Except "cancer" has the effect of causing people to run away screaming *any*way; whereas "9/11" got people all teary-eyed and flagwaving and willing to hand out money, and other useful stuff.
His words are too stupid to even address, but lets say those folks who have no coverage and need to go to charity hospitals for their cancer care, and can't afford the medications that go along with the treatment (even under current insurance plans, patients can't afford the co-pay for antibiotics and antifungals) probably actually are dying.
Aside from the fact that the Bush administrations had destroyed the NIH, CTEP, and preclinical cancer research during their time, and are eager to do it again.
I'm not Obamacare, but if I were Cancer, you'd better bet I'd fuck his crazy liver WAY the fuck up. Oh wait. I am a Cancer. I will start preying.
Go for it. That dumbshit really stepped on my last fucking nerve with this remark. Every single one of us has probably lost a friend/relative/colleague/acquaintance to cancer. Clearly, he was overlooked, but you can change that.
Can I get a job on the staff of the Death Panel that decrees cancer for Herman. I think that would be more interesting than my current job.
Nope, still boring. Mr. Cain, I knew Tim Pawlenty, and you, sir, are no Tim Paw…zzzzzzzzzzz.
You know, I'm becoming pretty sure that Herman has realized that he is toast, and is just milking his zombie candidacy for the lulz.
In the last week or two, he has really ratcheted up the incoherence. He's perhaps not any crazier than before, but his recent pronouncements have reached one-L levels of instant falsifiability. And, crucially, the falsehoods he's lately been spouting are things that he must know are not true, because he is — though cray-cray — not stupid.
I think that if he has resorted to knowingly lying about things where his lies will be exposed, he has given up any hope of actually becoming President, and is just planning to have some fun.
It's possible that he may be entertaining some notion of positioning himself far enough out on the loony wing of the loony wing that he might be considered for VP, if 1-L or pRick get the nom. But hahahaha, if so, he's obviously forgotten that he's black.
I don't think he has forgotten his african-american heritage for a moment. What has likely happened is that he realizes he is a member of a party that will always and forever view him as an also ran, a party that will likely never have more than a single digit percentage of people of his ethnic background in the party and none in a role with any responsibility since Steele flamed out. When Mike's 15 minutes were up and they had no use for him, he was gone, Herman will be back to obscurity shortly. None too soon.
Now if only MSNBC would just fire that clown–he's costing them viewers. Or am I the only one who runs screaming whenever he or Buchanan show up? I ordinarily don't care if people like that get the occasional interview on some lefty's show, but when they're on the payroll, it's too much for me to take.
My nephew fell (or was pushed!) off a balcony and suffered traumatic injuries. He was in intensive care for two weeks, then further treatment in the hospital and physical therapy. All that medical technology focused on this young man. He didn't have insurance or own a pizza chain or qualify for medicaid. But the State of Connecticut paid his medical bills, which is to say socialism. Without that socialism he would have died, Herman.
Except actually he wouldn't have died. Hospitals are required by law to treat emergency cases regardless of ability to pay. My nephew would have survived anyway, but owed the hospital $250,000, which meant bankruptcy and the hospital would pass those costs on to their paying customers. Or not buy new equipment. Or lay off some employees.
But why are hospitals required to treat people who can't pay? Isn't that the kind of heavy handed regulation that stifles the free market? Republicans certainly think so about clean air and consumer protestions. If hospitals weren't forced to give away their services, they could lower their prices, hire more staff or pay them better. They would become more efficient and more effective. Like a business. But my nephew would have died on a bench outside the emergency room.
Be careful what you wish for Republicans and TP'ers. Lives are at stake.
Oh, I talked to a tea partier who objected vigorously to the law requiring that ERs stabilize people regardless of their ability to pay. He was quite sure that if we got rid of that law, health costs would drop, but nobody would die, because charities would pick up the slack.
Our Wasilla Godfather's closed down 10 years ago. What sort of pizza buffet can't make it in Wasilla? I hope I don't catch cancer because I used to eat there once a week.
Didn't somebody say this about the UK health care system, only to be debunked by Stephen Hawking of all people?
Even stupider. The Investors' Business Daily ran an editorial that included the remark:
People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn’t have a chance in the U.K., where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless.
Hawking put out a public reply, pointing out that he is, in fact, Briitish, and that the NIH has done a rather good job of keeping him alive all these years.
As far as I know, the IBD never even acknowledged their error.
Wasn't he treated by one of those Muslims he hates so much?
Tonight's OT topic: How hot is Lourdes Garcia-Navarro? And by "hot" I mean fearless, literate, intelligent, dedicated and all-around admirable. Plus cute. Despite her oh-so-Catholic name, when reporting from Libya she wears a hijab, the better to fit in.
Even better, her Wiki page contains this (apparently) unintentionally hilarious statement: " In a July 22, 2011 report from Libya for NPR's All Things Considered, she reported that the war situation was so dire that she was forced to purchase her own food during the period of her report." Holy crap, you mean the NPR cafeteria in Tripoli was closed?
1. Hot enuff for me.
2. I'm thinking they were trying to convey that she was isolated from the normal supply chain. Oh wait. You know that. Sorry. I think I need to medicate my snark deficiency. It's after five in Denver, isn't it? That'll do.
I'd hit that. And by "hit", I mean "listen to on the radio".
NPR has had some incredibly gutsy women reporters: Garcia-Navarro, Ofeibea Quist-Arcton, Anne Garrels, Sylvia Poggioli (who got her start with reports on prosecuting the Mafia) …and darned if I can remember who the reporter was in Beirut in the mid-80s, but she was calmly reporting as bullets were smacking into her building…
Don't forget Maria Hinojosa, who had the good sense to leave CNN and do some real reporting on NPR and PBS.
EDIT: who's very much "hot", in the sense that V described. And to whom I would also "listen on the radio".
I remember Garrels chose to stay in Baghdad for the "Shock-and-Awe" onslaught even though all teevee pretty-boys fled. It was shocking and awe-inspiring.
Her book about that, Naked in Baghdad, is awfully good reading, too.
Was she forced to purchase her own food?
Well, sure, that too.
I did not know Lourdes was that cute, she is what I like to call all-terrain cute. She doesn't need shampoo, makeup, potable water, lack of bullets, you would still want to have sexytime at the end of the night. And she has giant titanium gonads.
Ballerific.
I know. The courage is thrilling: “Climb in my sleeping bag, sweetheart, and I'll show you the Arab Spring!”Sent from my iPad
Sploosh!
In contrast with the rest of the civilized nations in the world, the Republican attitude regarding the need for healthcare, as well as for shelter, food, education or retirement funds is: "We're all in this alone". And since the only products manufactured in the U. S. these days are enemies and useless weapons, the name of the country should be changed to "Pier One Imports".
Now I'm not saying Republican voters are dumb, but isn't it interesting they thought that Hermann Cain was winning all the debates before Michele Bachmann jumped into the race?
Herman Cain makes Flava Flav look like a fucking rocket scientist.
Herman needs more bling, the clock would at least make him useful as a timepiece holder.
Sure Mr. Cain, but what is your stance on the Noid?
When 'The Noid' was a big marketing hoohaw, they were producing little rubber like ones that when squeezed by your kid it emitted a pizza smell and pepperoni flavored phenols.
I think his point is that if the poor start getting cancer treatment, there won't be as much available for the rich.
That is actually exactly his point. One conservative idiot outright told me thatwe don't have enough doctors to treat everyone.
Was that idiot Santorum, by any chance?
Herman. You lived. Thousands of others who did not have insurance have died from the Big C. Quit whining.
If he did have brain cancer maybe they cut out half his brain. That would answer so many questions I have for the big cheese.
Cain should debate Santorum on the subject of health-care rationing. Would they manage to support denial or rationing of care by private insurers, while excoriating 'socialized' medicine for mere delays; or would they be forced to say that they come out well under the current system, and that the poors can f*** off and die, as Republican Jesus intended.
I caught cancer once. Had to throw it back, though- crabs are in season year round, but it was undersize.
shorter herman cain on health care for people without $$$$ "I does not care."
I caught morbid obesity from Godfather's Pizza. Oh, and e. coli.
As a person, without insurance, who has this HUGE bulge in her colon, prolapsed into her ass, and has no insurance, can Herman PLEASE have cancer? Please?
Herman Cain: Did I say cancer? I meant VD!
Good catch, Herman! Keep up the good work.
and having insurance companies run the whole Ponzie scheme isn't a problem?
One might say that Cain is a cancer. One might, but many definitely would.
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