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Millions of Dollars Later, Wisconsin Dems Win Last Two Recall Elections

and nothing will ever change this fact.The final two Wisconsin senate recall elections ended in victory for Democrats on Tuesday, so hooray for that because it is good, and also maybe now is a time to reflect on the fact that this series of nine recall votes cost “candidates and outside interest groups” an estimated $31 million. What is that, like 600 annual teacher salaries? Probably “somewhere down the road” after the history of the post-civil war American sell-off to the Chinese has been written, people may begin to reflect that the U.S. flushed itself down the toilet shortly after it started spending serious amounts of money on state-level governance questions like “should we elect the woman who believes that public schools indoctrinate children with Nazism to represent us, or the Democrat?” That is the description of one of yesterday’s recall races, which the Democrats won, thank God. Besides that weird and depressing thought, what is our other takeaway?

From Reuters:

Both Democrats and Republicans were claiming victory on Tuesday in a series of nine summer recall votes in which Democrats unseated two incumbent Republicans but fell short of winning control of the state legislature.

Democrats had hoped to win a majority in the state senate following a fierce battle with Governor Scott Walker and his Republican allies earlier this year over public workers’ union powers that involved mass protests, legislative maneuvering and court challenges.

“This was a political Rorschach test in that anyone can read anything into the result,” said Mordecai Lee, a University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee governmental affairs professor and former Democratic lawmaker. “Politically, it was a draw.”

Yes, but it was a $31 million dollar draw, which feels more satisfying. [Reuters]

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        1. Fare la Volpe

          Well when you lead the country 98% of the way to total economic collapse, you can certainly call that a victory.

      1. PristinePantalones

        By Republican standards, apparently 1 out of 9 is a mandate.

        Perhaps we've been looking at the wrong definition of "man-date."

  1. Captain_Quark

    I believe that the true result should be characterized this way: the people of Wisconsin don't care for unlubed Republicanism, but they're OK with the "lube and reacharound" version. I think Santorum might do well in that state.

    1. Biel_ze_Bubba

      I like to think of it as stimulus money. Meaningless and unproductive work, but most of the dough went straight into the Wisconsin economy. I'd feel better if most of it came from the bank accounts of the rich, turning them into actual job creators for a little while.

      1. Lascauxcaveman

        I only spent $50 on this thing, so I guess I'm not much of a playa. Although I like to think it was my $50 donation that brought those two bastards down.

  2. ifthethunderdontgetya

    so hooray for that and maybe now is a good time to reflect on the fact that this series of nine recall votes cost “candidates and outside interest groups” an estimated $31 million.

    According to Charles Kraphammer of the War Criminal Post, Republicans won in spite of "millions of dollars of union money."

    This proves to Kraphammer that the system works.

        1. prommie

          Think of all the people that accident saved, of the carnage he would have caused as a physician. A physician who is completely wrong about everything, all the time.

      1. PristinePantalones

        He awreddy did. That's what caused all his problems, and by extension, all of ours, too. He's determined to make humanity pay for the fact that he hasn't had an erection in 30 years.

    1. GOPCrusher

      Also heard this meme. Except the way I heard it, it was millions of dollars spent by the union that was taken from members that don't want to be in the union.
      I guess in some states, it's legal to force people to join the union at gunpoint.

  3. Come here a minute

    Good thing the anti-union people wasted all that money in failed recall elections — it's not like the Koch brothers have a virtually unlimited amount of money to spend on politics.

  4. metamarcisf

    I see no mention of the massive voter fraud that virtually overwhelmed the citizen teabugger patrols at polling places throughout the state. Do I have to log back in to World Net Daily to hear the truth?

        1. BarryOPotter


          Ah, Nantucket. Summer's almost over, time to make the change from Gin & Ts to Scotch & Ws…

  5. ifthethunderdontgetya

    Oh, and just because I did major in Economics many decades ago, the $31 million was not "wasted".

    It was spent in the high unemployment area known as Wisconsin. The cheeseheads could use more of these, especially when the result is fewer Republican assholes in the government.

    1. Terry

      I wonder what the breakdown of that spending was. TV time must have gobbled a lot up, as did campaign consultants.

    2. poncho_pilot

      just remember, it's pronounced Wiscansin. stronger inflection seems to depend on how bad your WI accent is.

  6. V572 T-Blow

    Teevee talking heads like "Chuck" Todd are asking whether Wisconsin voters are tired of recall elections. Which is their way of saying "We teevee talking heads are tired of paying attention to a state whose actual location and correct pronunciation are unfamiliar to us."

    1. elviouslyqueer

      Shorter Chuckles: "Why don't Wisconsin voters just STFU and allow free market elections rightfully paid for and bought by your friendly neighborhood corporatocracy "democracy" to work the way in which the Koch Brothers, et al. God intended?"

    2. not that Dewey

      Fuck Chuck. Sure — one recall election is absolutely exhausting to an electorate that was blindsided by Koch money.

      Aside from his views on Wisconsin, he's positively jizzing himself over the idea of a Rick Perry presidency. I can haz librul media now?

      1. V572 T-Blow

        Plus: do you have any idea how hard it is to find a good restaurant in Madison? And Milwaukee — don't get me started!

        1. not that Dewey

          I hear his elbow was jostled by someone whose entire outfit cost less than $75. The Horror!

          1. BarryOPotter

            The Horror!

            "God, I know! I heard this "person" had previously served from the right, and while clearing from the left – I know! The left! – "accidentally" bumped Chuckles. Good help is truly hard to find. They all seem to want to stab us with salad forks or spoon out our insides…"

        2. poncho_pilot

          Essen Haus, Lombardino's, The Great Dane, that weird diner on University in Middleton with all of the pies, etc.

          1. V572 T-Blow

            DC teevee celebs have very high culinary standards developed at all the fine restaurants at home.

          2. poncho_pilot

            are these the restaurants that batter and deep fry foie gras and put it between glazed donuts?

          3. horsedreamer_1

            I will put Hinterland up against any DC restaurant.

            And Tulip is better than the Turkish menu at that place on Wisconsin Ave. in Georgetown.

    3. Buckminster

      How dare we take valuable time away from "air personalities" that they need for preening and grooming and make them study the facts of the story? Have we no shame?

      1. V572 T-Blow

        They have to prepare¹ for interviews² with important inside-the-Beltway decision-makers³ like Chuck Schumer!___________¹Scan the staff-prepared questions faxed over by the interview-subject’s staff²Trading softballs for pre-cooked talking points³Readily available teevee whores

          1. V572 T-Blow

            Big-time college football programs all aspire to reach the high ethical standards of Gordon Gee and Ohio State.

    4. lochnessmonster

      I remember when Chuck Todd was a journalist. I liked him on CSPAN Washington Journal. now he's just a sell out like the rest of the talking heads…

      1. prommie

        You know why all shampoo bottles tell you to rinse and "repeat?" So you will have to buy twice as much shampoo.

          1. weejee

            No. I helps to muck-up the sewage treatment plant, so that help's to create jobs shoveling out the shit. It's part of the Rethug jerbs pogrom.

  7. LabRodent

    Thats good and all, Hooray for our side. But wake me when that Dick Scott Walker's no longer the Gov.

  8. neiltheblaze

    $31 million? If the rest of the country only followed Wisconsin's example, think of all the millions of dollars that would have been pumped into the economy by now!

    1. NorthStarSpanx

      There's only so many writers that can claim "Make Obama a One Term President" as their own for their candidate's most memorable and resonating qualifier for POTUS.

  9. MissusBarry

    I'm so horribly disappointed in the recalls…can't help feel like without an overwhelming mandate to GTFU, these Kochsuckers actually gained some momentum. Cheese for brains.

    1. ShaveTheWhales

      Wisconsin is, generally, a slight-left swing state. There are a lot of Republicans, particularly in Republican districts. The six R's who were up for recall didn't include any of the new ones who snuck in in 2010 (they couldn't be recalled because of the 1-year rule). Generally, they were R's in R districts. Getting rid of two of them was a major accomplishment; three would have been phenomenal. The three challenged D's all won.

      Taking over the senate majority would have been golden, but there is no way this result indicates increased mo for the R's.

    2. Negropolis

      I honestly don't see how barely holding off losing power can be seen as a win for them. More Democrats ended up voting than Republicans in these recalls, with the only catch being that the districts picked for recall were all across the state. Remember, Dems weren't supposed to be winning anything, especially after the rout in November. I'm not saying this as some partisan.

        1. AJWjr.

          You know what makes the very best Molotov Cocktails? Those incandescent lightbulbs that Miche1e loves so much. You can look it up.

  10. slithytoves

    I'm guessing the money spent by the Dems went to materials, etc with a union bug, so I'm not seeing where the waste is on that side.

  11. JoshuaNorton

    “Politically, it was a draw.”

    Only by Fux Noise/Mark Halperin standards.

    All Dems kept their seats. 2 Repiggies got kicked out and several others just barely won.

    Ergo, this must be good news for John McCain. Somehow.

  12. ManchuCandidate

    Wisconsin: Ever heard of Rekall? They do those funny elections where they find extra votes in Waukesha.
    Koch Sucker: Oh, "Rekall, Rekall, Rekall." You thinking of going there?
    Wisconsin: I don't know, maybe.
    Koch Sucker: Well, don't. A friend of mine tried one their "special offers," nearly scored himself some rich people only health benefits.
    Wisconsin: No shit?
    Koch Sucker: Don't fuck with your Koch overlords, pal. It ain't worth it.

  13. SayItWithWookies

    I just love how the only party that lost seats claimed victory. With that kind of outlook, they should be able to carry that momentum through to 2012.

  14. Ducksworthy

    On the other hand, that's $31 million that won't be going to prove that the president is actually a Kenyan witch-doctor.

  15. fuflans

    on wisconsin!

    i mean it was a recall of two repubs in heavily repub areas. and the dems hung on.

    walker's next.

    1. Biel_ze_Bubba

      Can someone explain why you'd target Rethugs in heavily Rethug districts? Surely these weren't the most vulnerable targets.

  16. Billmatic

    Boy for all the optimism for people that still believe in the Democratic party this is pretty much like a death knell. I'm sending my application for asylum in the Netherlands right now. You guys have fun in this hellhole! I'mma be smokin weed with some prostitutes tomorrow.

      1. genxr

        I recommend the Purple Kush Asylum. It costs a bit more, but when you roll it you'll know where that extra money went.

  17. Crank_Tango

    Well, there's one way to get the rich to actually spend their money–buying elections. It's just a big stimulus package, only horrible.

    1. V572 T-Blow

      Sounds like you're saying money spent on producing and distributing manipulative and dishonest television ads isn't a productive addition to society.

      1. Crank_Tango

        Let's just say I think it would be better spent on hookers and blow. It's called the multiplier effect, people.

        1. PristinePantalones

          What, you're creating a lot more jobs for hookers and dealers than if you spent the same amount on political consults and ad executives, is what you're saying?

          1. Crank_Tango

            Perhaps not, but at least you're eliminating the vile, worthless middlemen and getting the money to real americans, like dealers and hookers.

  18. SorosBot

    Yes, a gain of two for the Democrats is a draw. That's our "liberal" mainstream media, ladies and gentlemen!

    1. glamourdammerung

      I kind of wondered how they were going to spin the GOP losing seats as a victory myself. It really sucks being right so often.

      1. PristinePantalones

        It's amazing to watch them do it, though. It's hard to believe the rubes can be *such* fucking rubes till you actually see these overpaid putzes basically opening their great fooking cakeholes and saying things that are completely at odds with stuff like facts, reason, logic, basic principles, common sense, etc. Do they actually believe that losing = "WINNING," or is it something more sinister? I.e., are they all terminally stupid motherfuckers, so that we can look forward to them going tits-up any second because they forgot to breathe? Or are they just trying to bamboozle all the *others* who are terminally stupid, et cetera, ad infinitum, ad nauseam?

    1. DashboardBuddha

      Not to mention the discount teachers get on hired help, luxury automobiles, and private jets.

    2. Fare la Volpe

      How many of these "school teachers" are declaring their yachts as second homes? Sounds like an investigation is in order.

    3. PristinePantalones

      I believe some 50 years or so ago, the average NYC schoolteacher made a few thousand less per year than a beginning lawyer. These days, the salary discrepancy is so not-even-funny.

    1. PristinePantalones

      If the descriptions of Jeebus in the KJV are to be believed, he'll have a hazmat team handle the recall. Teabaggers would not rate high on his list of "Peeps to rescue and rehabilitate."

  19. EatsBabyDingos

    Rick Perry, Mr Lone Ranger fer sher, shoud ask Scott Walker, Wannabe Texas Deranger, to be his Tonto. Then we can tell jokes, like…

    Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the Lone Ranger disguised himself as a wall. Instinctively, Tonto plastered his crack.

    Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the Lone Ranger disguised himself as an elevator. Instinctively, Tonto rode his shaft.

    Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the Lone Ranger disguised himself as a light switch. Instinctively, Tonto turned him on.

  20. Oblios_Cap

    Yes, but it was a $31 million dollar draw, which feels more satisfying.

    It might feel satisfying, but there's no Happy Ending.

  21. FakaktaSouth

    The "welfare dept" or "US government" or whatever, should get a tv station. Then they could also play commercials and get corporate money. No?

    Who is getting this money? I really don't understand where it goes. Lotsa rich ad people and owners of various tv stations in small towns everywhere?

        1. prommie

          I always thought Sam was one of them "confirmed bachelors" they have in Hollywood, like that nice Liberace fellow.

          1. PristinePantalones

            My mother thought he was wonderful, and often bemoaned the fact that none of her sons turned out that way. (She was wrong about that, as about everything else, but.)

            PS: Liberace, not Yosemite Sam.

  22. loulouroo

    Hey, if some of the Koch brothers money trickles down to lowly and poor media salespeople like myself, I'm all for it.
    I wish they'd have a few recall elections in Louisiana. I could really use the scratch.

    1. SorosBot

      That's the thing; yeah, $31 million is a lot of money to spend on an election, and that extra money getting pumped into the economy is a good thing. Hell, the Presidential election should help the economy with all that campaign money that's going to be floating around.

      1. PristinePantalones

        At least 2 billion so far. Except for people like Newt, who is now enjoying all the pennies he's raking in without paying salaries. That $31 mil went to hire workers for the offices of the Congresscritters facing recall, paying for food, drink, transportation for said workers and the existing staff of each of those critters, political consultants, at least some of whom came from in-state, supplies from the local businesses (I've never handled that stuff for a campaign, but I do recall way back when I actually did that kind of work, that office supplies were a regular little item in the budget; you have to buy that shit on a weekly basis). Hotel/motel rentals, car rentals, Web gurus, video/sound/materials developers/producers — that money probably got spread around some.

    2. elviouslyqueer

      I wish they'd have a few recall elections in Louisiana.

      What, and do away with two centuries of perfectly good corruption, graft, extortion, and general political malfeasance? What kind of Louisianian are you?

      1. HistoriCat

        I thought folks in Louisiana were all about tradition and heritage. Loulouroo is obviously a LINO.

        1. jus_wonderin

          Ah, born and raised in Shreveport. Live in Dallas now (since 1993) but visit the farm every other weekend.

          1. elviouslyqueer

            I hate to break it to ya, j_w, but if you're north of Alex, you're basically Baja Arkansas.

          2. jus_wonderin

            LOL. I know. We are not the fun part of the state. And that dang pin on the Bible Belt buckle is irritating. It chafes me.

    3. PuckStopsHere

      Yeah, well, good luck with that, I was applying for a sales job with some company that runs half a dozen stations and was told they pay no commission on poly ads. So, literally, all the money is going rich station owner, All of it, Katie.

    1. PristinePantalones

      The media is now chanting the mantra that support for Walker's recall is very very low and WI folks are rethinking it altogether. I hope to fuck they're wrong, because he's the fetid little boil that is the source of the poison on the WI body politic. I don't trust the media on this. Even I can see that they're lying out their asses 99% of the time these days.

      1. lulzmonger

        Yep, from 50% all the way down to 47% … in August.

        Note that 35% would be enough to git 'er done if enough "R" voters stay home on Recall Day. Child's play to point out to all the Tighty-righty hippy-haters that he's the cause of all the unsightly protesting to begin with.

        1. PristinePantalones

          Thanks for the info. The Mighty Wurlitzer of RW news roars on, obscuring any real signal. Here's hoping he's gone real soon.

  23. Callyson

    This guy Mordecai Lee is determined to see defeat where victory exists–he went on to say:
    He expected the results would embolden Democrats to try to recall Walker, which would require a half a million signatures just to schedule an election. "By November, we'll know if they're pursuing it seriously or not."
    Um, with all due respect, WTF *wouldn't* they? All the momentum is with the Dems at this point…
    President Obama, please take note: when we fight, we win!

    1. horsedreamer_1

      Ol' Mordecai is an ex-legislator of Dem persuasion turned favorite liberal of ISN radio's closet maitre d' Mark Belling. So, basically, he's a Wisconsin, Jewish Harold Ford.

      1. jus_wonderin

        Well, I clicked their site the other day to snag a photo of a "cowboy" needed for some story stuff I was writing at work. Maybe I now have a Sheplers cookie. I wonder if I vist A&F will that change my ads? <g>

      2. GOPCrusher

        Seriously. What kind of a scummy asshat do you have to be to have a company offer you money to not give them free advertising?

      1. SorosBot

        I'm getting the anti-Verizon ads too, keep getting Kortney, RAM upgrade and rotating books ads, and currently have a flower ad I don't think I've seen before.

        1. Lascauxcaveman

          I'm getting all that and World of Warcraft, too. Must be a carry-over from one of my night managers who quit a while back. Who's got time for that stuff?

    1. PristinePantalones

      Holy Mother of God. I knew that woman was a rancid cunt, but I had no idea she was *such* a *stupid,* rancid cunt.

  24. Steverino247

    As I wrote previously, the D's tried to take out six R's in districts drawn up to remain R who might have been doing ok by their local constituencies as a means to get to Walker before his pull date arrived. The fact that they got two of them is wonderful political news for Democrats in Wisconsin.


    The problem is the messaging of what the D's were trying to do. They should have announced right up front that it was going to be tough to do that so if the statistically likely result occurred, it would not look like a GOP victory. But no, they acted like they were likely to get all six and now look like they lost.

    If the Democractic Party wants to stop doing shit like this, I'm available.

    1. ShaveTheWhales

      You know, in this case I think the over-optimistic messaging may have been necessary to keep morale as high as possible. If they had openly said "well, there's a couple of these we know we won't win", I'm not sure the enthusiasm would have held up.

  25. An_Outhouse

    5-4 is not both sides won. The Dems won you WATBs. Are these Republicans the kids who got the trophy just for showing up?

  26. johnnyzhivago

    Blame this shit on the "founding fathers". If they had just declared George Washington a divinely chosen king, we would be a prosperous nation under King George or Queen Martha.

    Or if they had said, "independence?? nice idea, but give me a break in 200 years the idiots who take over for us will fuck it up". Today we would be like Canada only richer and with better TV shows.

    1. ShaveTheWhales

      There is this one semi-sane R senator, who has actually voted with the Dems on some things. Optimistic cheeseheads think this will cut down on the degree of insanity Scooter will be able to put through.

      Oh wait, did you mean literally neutered? 'Cause I'm with you on that.

  27. hollywooddood

    I'm waiting for the Walker recall vote when Milwaukee and Madison are included and the voters hand him his ass.

  28. owhatever

    Democrats bought their two new seats because of union thug money and brutal intimidation. Penniless Republicans bravely held back the hordes of collective bargainers because the GOP is pure and respectful and trust in God. Unfortunately, God wasn't registered to vote.

    1. PristinePantalones

      You see why God's poll numbers keep dropping? He's just dumb as fuck-all, always doing this shit. He's the one who invented these poll-thingies, and now he can't even remember — ah, don't get me started on God!

  29. Negropolis

    Out of focus, again. On the most extreme parts of Walker's agenda, which would cost his state far more than a measly $31 million, he doesn't have a workable majority in the Senate, anymore.

    $31 million is more than worth cost of preventing or fighting back against the stripping of union rights. The Wisconsin Democratic Party is just about the last one with balls in this country. Let's encourage our allies, instead of knitpicking their efforts. It'd have been different if they bombed, but they didn't.

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