OUR FLOURISHING ECONOMY  2:28 pm August 2, 2011

Obama’s Tea Party Bill Signed, Stocks Collapse

by Wonkette Jr.

Fail.Ronald Reagan’s illegitimate son Barack Obama just signed his Tea Party Disaster Bill, which officially makes “being poor” both Illegal and the legal status of 90% of Americans. So will Wall Street finally love Barack Obama a little bit more? No, of course not. Stocks collapsed. This is a Failed State. The value of American stocks has dropped nearly 7% in a week — that’s quite a Vote of Confidence! Meanwhile, regular Americans (the illegal Legally Poor) can add “no emergency social services” to “no jobs” and “no home equity” and “no homes” and “no money.” The 14% of Americans who approve of this destructive insanity are, of course, the Tea Party idiots. But at least Barack Obama gave a really terrible, infuriating little speech in the Rose Garden after spending the past few weeks attacking both his supporters and America in general.

Anybody But Obama in 2012, honestly. Is there an actual Democrat who might like to run for president, and maybe get the WORLD’S BIGGEST ECONOMY functioning again, by using the Power of the Government to create millions of jobs? No, not really. So when you go to sleep tonight with the Fear gnawing at your belly, just repeat three times: “At least Obama is better than _____” and fill in whatever Republican bogeyman.

 

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Madfall August 2, 2011 at 2:31 pm

And cue the Evil Star Wars music for the Republicans.

Maman August 2, 2011 at 3:13 pm

I think the Tea Party gets that music… the rest of the Republicans get Lando Calrissian's theme music.

poorgradstudent August 2, 2011 at 2:32 pm

I can't help but already roll my eyes in advance at how Obama's stalwart Internet Defenders Brigade (TM) are going to spin this one. My poor eyeballs!

pdiddycornchips August 2, 2011 at 2:39 pm

Yeah, I keep thinking back to the heady days. Obama was all hope and inspiration and Hilz was the evil closet Republican (Bill too). Barry's army of Hope Zombies would scold anyone who dared disagree with them that the Clintons were rightwing zealots compared to their dear leader. Oh well, you go to war with the empty suit you have, not the empty suit you wish you had.

iburl August 2, 2011 at 5:09 pm

Sadly, they are both right wingers.

Chet Kincaid August 2, 2011 at 2:51 pm

Good one!! We've got cute names for Delusional Firebaggers with Obama Derangement Syndrome, too! Thanks for improving the discourse!

pdiddycornchips August 2, 2011 at 3:10 pm

Well played sir. Disagreement with Hopey's policies = deranged teabagger. I am somewhat disappointed you didn't call someone a racist. Must be an oversight.

Chet Kincaid August 2, 2011 at 3:44 pm

I wasn't talking to you, I didn't say what you said, and your use of "Hope Zombies" deftly cedes the name-calling high ground. Nicely done!

Cicada August 2, 2011 at 3:47 pm

Nah, it's the fact that you have a cutesy little name like "Obama's stalwart Internet Defenders Brigade (TM)" for anyone who disagrees with you that's annoying. That was Chet's point, silly.

It's awfully hard to get shit done when you've dismissed a huge number of people who agree with you on most issues as not pure enough.

Cicada August 2, 2011 at 3:15 pm

Obot! LINO! Blargleblarfbleeble!!!!! I DON'T CARE IF WE AGREE ON MOST THINGS, I WILL NEVER WORK WITH YOU TRAITOR!!!1!!!

I love when liberals sound just like Tea Baggers. It's so…circular. Ah well, off to Free Republic to read about why John Boehner should be primaried for being a communist sympathizer. Maybe I'll catch the latest about why all TRUE conservatives should stay home if Mitt Romney is the nominee while I'm at it.

genxr August 2, 2011 at 3:42 pm

True conservatives should stay home, period. Government is the problem, not the solution, and if you're taking part in government, you're part of the problem.

Keep yer gubmint hands offa mah gubmint!

Cicada August 2, 2011 at 3:52 pm

The Freepers started banning pro-Mitt posters, because they're all fifth-column traitors undermining the true conservative agenda. I don't think they get irony over there.

poorgradstudent August 2, 2011 at 3:55 pm

*shrug* Obama himself was and continues to be our best proof. You got…cute little insults based on an Internet blog 98% of people haven't heard of?

mooncrushworld August 2, 2011 at 4:05 pm

We are all Firebaggers today man. Those who are not are either Republicans or Wall Street DLC Dems who can afford the coming doubledip.

BaldarTFlagass August 2, 2011 at 3:17 pm

"Now Obama's plan is all coming together! He has the Republicans right where he wants them!! BUHUWAHAHAHAHAHA!!"

poorgradstudent August 2, 2011 at 3:57 pm

"Neoliberalism? What's that?"

Nothingisamiss August 2, 2011 at 3:30 pm

Splitter.

poorgradstudent August 2, 2011 at 4:37 pm

I'll own up to it.

At least the schism between American liberals isn't taking place in some kind of "meat world," although I have to admit I'd find it kind of funny if a loyal commenter over at Glenn Greenwald's suicide bombed Matthew Yglesias's place or vice versa. Maybe that's what Second Life is for?

muthalovin August 2, 2011 at 2:32 pm

Wuhoh. We are saved!(?)

SudsMcKenzie August 2, 2011 at 2:32 pm

My Banana Republic stock is soaring!11

MrFizzy August 2, 2011 at 2:37 pm

that's excellent

weejee August 2, 2011 at 2:32 pm

And the downgrade from triple A to AA happens in 3, 2, 1….

wish that were snark and not fact

user-of-owls August 2, 2011 at 2:34 pm

AAA batteries are too small anyway, I always drop them into cracks or something.

MLHencken August 2, 2011 at 2:38 pm

Voltaically Kinky!

SorosBot August 2, 2011 at 2:39 pm

Considering the spread of depression we've got coming up, soon all of America is gonna need AA; but won't turn to it because life will be too hard to face sober.

user-of-owls August 2, 2011 at 7:13 pm

Me & Dewey in unison:

Too soon!

je, je, je

missemish August 2, 2011 at 2:46 pm

but so many vibrators take AAA!

OneDollarJuana August 2, 2011 at 3:56 pm

But the sluts use those big lantern batteries.

GOPCrusher August 2, 2011 at 3:10 pm

Everyone cancel their country club memberships and we'll be back on top!

Callyson August 2, 2011 at 4:23 pm

Time for some humor…
Peaches Only AA Thinking Triple XXX http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an0ce8kfYOc&fe
What? I have to have some fun while the world collapses…

user-of-owls August 2, 2011 at 2:33 pm

officially makes “being poor” both Illegal and the legal status of 90% of Americans.

So, now we have the New Apartheid, only with poverty now!

vodkamuppet August 2, 2011 at 3:11 pm

Poverty, it's what's for dinner!

donner_froh August 2, 2011 at 3:11 pm

I just hope the picture on my internal passport turns out better than the one on my driver's license.

user-of-owls August 2, 2011 at 3:22 pm

New pickup line for singles bars:

"Hey baby, what's your homeland?"

imissopus August 2, 2011 at 3:24 pm

"That dress is very becoming on you. Spare some hobo beans?"

V572 Hair of Destiny August 2, 2011 at 3:46 pm

We should name them after the South African ones. Alabama can be Lebowa, Texas can be QwaQwa , Georgia can be Bophuthatswana , California should be KwaZulu, etc.

user-of-owls August 2, 2011 at 7:07 pm

We'll need to fiddle with the race designation on the passbooks too. Gone are the Xhosas, the Zulus and the 'Coloureds.'

The new designations will be, "Poor Black," "Poor Anglo," "Poor Hispanic," etc. One other alteration will be the inclusion of a "Stupid" and "Vicious" designation in the form of Yes/No boxes.

If the passbook holder has 'Yes' check on one or the other of these boxes, they will automatically be registered as a Republican. If the holder has 'Yes checks' on both boxes, by law they become Tea Party members.

Negropolis August 3, 2011 at 1:13 am

Only with poverty and still with race, two! Double the societal stratification!!

not that Dewey August 3, 2011 at 11:26 pm

DIVEST NOW!

freakishlywrong August 2, 2011 at 2:33 pm

Krugman? Will Krugman run?

gurukalehuru August 2, 2011 at 2:37 pm

I would like to see Robert Reich run. Seriously, Martin Van Buren has been America's shortest president long enough.

freakishlywrong August 2, 2011 at 2:40 pm

At least get one of those fuckers in to his lame ass administration. Actually, from all I've seen and read, Krugman loathes Obama.

Lascauxcaveman August 2, 2011 at 2:43 pm

And/or vice/versa. Kruggie's probably just deeply disappointed, as are we all.

FlownOver August 2, 2011 at 2:52 pm

You know what catty bitches those Nobeloids can be.

KenLayIsAlive August 2, 2011 at 8:36 pm

He's getting all emo. He put up a link to a portishead song yesterday.

V572 Hair of Destiny August 2, 2011 at 2:49 pm

Telling the truth ≠ hating

MinAgain August 2, 2011 at 2:56 pm

I'd vote for him.

smokefilleddoommate August 2, 2011 at 2:59 pm

I think he's sexy.

Nothingisamiss August 2, 2011 at 3:31 pm

That was a comment too far.

powersuit August 2, 2011 at 2:58 pm

No, he would rather stoke his beard and complain about whoever does run, then complain again when they don't heed his advice or return his calls.

BlueStateLibel August 2, 2011 at 3:11 pm

Ouch! It's not like he's right 100% of the time, oh yeah he is.

OneDollarJuana August 2, 2011 at 3:58 pm

Which one? Krugman or Reich? Oh yeah. Both of them.

BTWBFDIMHO August 2, 2011 at 3:06 pm

No, only Very Serious People run.

Nothingisamiss August 2, 2011 at 3:32 pm

He doesn't have the executive experience of Sarah Palin, I'll tell you that right now.

V572 Hair of Destiny August 2, 2011 at 3:47 pm

That's so they can have Adult Conversations® about serious issues, like the one we just witnessed.

spinozasgod August 2, 2011 at 5:13 pm

according to BillO and the eyeof Newt, Obama has been doing everything Krugman has told him to do, so that proves that krugman and his liberal macroeconomics doesn't work!!! wow it is just as if they were playing opposite day.

KenLayIsAlive August 2, 2011 at 8:37 pm

I just want him to be on stage during the debates. That's all. Just debate Obama.

nounverb911 August 2, 2011 at 2:33 pm

"Ronald Reagan’s illegitimate son Barack Obama just signed his Tea Party Disaster Bill"
I thought Grover Nordquist was Reagan's bastard son. There's more than one?

Lionel[redacted]Esq August 2, 2011 at 2:39 pm

Regan was sort of the Bristol Palin of his time.

nounverb911 August 2, 2011 at 2:42 pm

He just couldn't remember doing anything.

freakishlywrong August 2, 2011 at 2:42 pm

Actually, isn't Michael the bastard dick of Reagan's son?

Radiotherapy® August 2, 2011 at 2:49 pm

Aren't teabaggers the mutant spawn of neocons?

102415 August 3, 2011 at 2:25 am

Yes.

GOPCrusher August 2, 2011 at 3:13 pm

Ronald Reagan laid more pipe than a plumber.

johnnyzhivago August 2, 2011 at 3:44 pm

You're thinking of Ben Franklin.

mourningnmerica August 2, 2011 at 4:28 pm

Barry isn't Reagan's son. But he is Blankfein's boy.

Please join me in my new ABBA campaign (Anybody But Barry Again).

Our President is a punk. And I do mean that in the prison vernacular.

Swampgas_Man August 2, 2011 at 7:00 pm

They're ALL bastards!

Atlas Frooged August 2, 2011 at 2:34 pm

Hey, they didn't say the surge would be up!

nounverb911 August 2, 2011 at 2:42 pm

I think they meant purge.

OneDollarJuana August 2, 2011 at 3:59 pm

Except in Afghanistan.

savethispatient August 2, 2011 at 2:34 pm

I think the problem is that, as a Constitutional Law professor and a former Senator, Obama understands that the role of President is limited. This means he actually respects the will of the Congress.

Of course, the Congress are a bunch of children, so the will of the Congress is "lets eat the paste and scribble on the walls with crayon".

genxr August 2, 2011 at 2:38 pm

"You say you want ice cream for dinner? But today's stimulus snack was 50% ice cream! I even removed the vegetables as a compromise! Well I can see I'm outvoted. Let's see if we can find a way to eat nothing but ice cream and maintain our health. Grover, stop pouring corn syrup on your ice cream! What? You've all signed a pledge to eat ice cream with corn syrup topping?"

guangho August 2, 2011 at 3:39 pm

"We're fat and dying of heart attacks and strokes and type II diabetes. This is obviously a dastardly Muslim plot by Black Daddy! Daddy, why didn't you tell us that ice cream will kill us? Why do you hate us Daddy?"

genxr August 2, 2011 at 4:37 pm

It wasn't the ice cream, you RINO! It was that carrot that we almost had to eat but we threatened to burn the house down so we got more ice cream instead. Liberals and their carrots are what ruined my health!

SudsMcKenzie August 2, 2011 at 2:40 pm

They are going on "recess" tomorrow.

widestanceroman August 2, 2011 at 2:44 pm

And getting as far as possible from anything remotely like a town hall meeting.

savethispatient August 2, 2011 at 2:44 pm

Does that mean they get to bring in games to play today? Which Senator is bringing in Kerplunk?

MLHencken August 2, 2011 at 2:45 pm

Tony Randall: "I love recess."

At least they wont be in session fucking anything up.

genxr August 2, 2011 at 3:07 pm

I like your optimism.

OneDollarJuana August 2, 2011 at 4:59 pm

(Congressman to pilot) "Say, are those landing lights? There sure are a lot of them!

(Pilot to Congressman) "I don't think so, they're kind of filling the runway. Wait, they're torches. And pitchforks!"

weejee August 2, 2011 at 2:45 pm

Following the new Strunk and Wonkette guidelines:

And those weaselfucking Congressional weaselfucks are so fucking proud of themselves for having weaselfucked the entire country.

FlownOver August 2, 2011 at 2:54 pm

The Elements of Snark, no?

Chet Kincaid August 2, 2011 at 4:45 pm

By Steuf & Waggs.

pdiddycornchips August 2, 2011 at 2:49 pm

Well that makes me feel so much better. The Constitutional Law professor just made the dismantling of the social safety net along with the continuation of tax cuts for billionaires a bipartisan construction. He had to do this because opposing policies advocated by wingnuts in the House and Senate would be unconstitutional?

guangho August 2, 2011 at 3:41 pm

Um no, he had to do this because…well…you know how Nelson always beats up Milhouse? Well, maybe they could be friends. Owww!

riverside68 August 2, 2011 at 4:17 pm

He had to do it because GoldSacks & Kocks created a monster that almost ate wall street.

But it didn't, so hopey will be able to give GS & K $$$ to General Electric for tv spots.

Feel better?

Chet Kincaid August 2, 2011 at 4:47 pm

Explain to me exactly how Obama dismantled the social safety net. I'm just trying to understand how you think. Oh, and provide some reputable sources.

pdiddycornchips August 2, 2011 at 5:34 pm

No addtional revenues, immediate cuts in domestic spending, a proposed raising of the eligibility age for medicare, putting Social Security on the table.

Copy, paste, google.

What I said is he is making the dismantling of the social safety net bipartisan. That and tax cuts for ever and ever. I don't know about you but I was paying attention a few years ago when Obama promised to let the Bush tax cuts expire for top income earners. He couldn't even get tax breaks for private jet owners eliminated. Before Obama, it was often said that social security was the third rail of politics. That's no longer the case.
Now, the third rail appears to be tax cuts for billionaires.

This is what dominates the debate in Washington. Not 9% unemployment, non-existent growth, an expanding gap between the haves and have nots.

That we're going to balance the budget on the backs of the poor and middle class is obvious. It's what Republicans have long advocated. It took a Democratic president to turn their hopes and dreams into reality.

Swampgas_Man August 2, 2011 at 7:02 pm

What happened to that Unitard Executive thing we had a while ago?

zhubajie August 2, 2011 at 7:43 pm

Predictably, it never went away.

Naked_Bunny August 3, 2011 at 8:03 am

That only applies to starting wars and spying on Americans.

Come here a minute August 2, 2011 at 2:34 pm

The only thing we have to fear is Fear itself.

Unfortunately, we've got a president who's chock-full of it.

SudsMcKenzie August 2, 2011 at 2:36 pm

can i just fear Rick Perry instead?

MrFizzy August 2, 2011 at 2:36 pm

A year ago I would have argued with that.

weejee August 2, 2011 at 2:46 pm

That gives me a sad.

mourningnmerica August 2, 2011 at 4:29 pm

BEST.

baconzgood August 2, 2011 at 2:34 pm

Now this is the "Hope and Change" I'm talkin' 'bout

-Koch Brothers-

smokefilleddoommate August 2, 2011 at 3:25 pm

For the rest of us it's "Dope and Mange".

SudsMcKenzie August 2, 2011 at 2:34 pm

…. ohh and ______ is gay George Bush jr. jr.

Nothingisamiss August 2, 2011 at 3:36 pm

Marcus Bachmann?

WhatTheHolyHeck August 2, 2011 at 2:35 pm

It's Debt Ceiling Reconciliation Plan Mad Libs time!

President ______ gave a ________ speech in _________ to _______ himself for the ________ job he did in ________ing the country while _________ing his values.

baconzgood August 2, 2011 at 2:49 pm

President _fart_ gave a _poopie___ speech in _penis____ to _butt__ himself for the _pee-pee___ job he did in ___fart__ing the country while ___boob__ing his values.

WhatTheHolyHeck August 2, 2011 at 2:56 pm

No fair, you peeked.

DaRooster August 2, 2011 at 2:58 pm

Bingo… needs some Santorum though… oh wait, the whole thing reeks of it.

Gleem_McShineys August 2, 2011 at 3:57 pm

Correction: "hole thing"

nounverb911 August 2, 2011 at 2:35 pm

When are the Democrats going to get some balls and toss the teabaggers out of the party?

MLHencken August 2, 2011 at 2:46 pm

I am thinking, sadly, pretty much never.

SudsMcKenzie August 2, 2011 at 3:07 pm

we have a squirmish with them here in WI in a week or so.

DaRooster August 2, 2011 at 2:58 pm

Democrats? Balls? You so funny…

Atlas Frooged August 2, 2011 at 3:15 pm

A couple of good Dem lines from good ol' Will Rogers, young 'uns!

I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat.

Democrats never agree on anything, that's why they're Democrats. If they agreed with each other, they would be Republicans.

OneDollarJuana August 2, 2011 at 4:15 pm

The sad truth is that Dems have stood firm for values that aid people, hence Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, unemployment insurance, civil rights reforms, etc., etc,. But the last 40 years, since the Nixon era (ironically), there has been this sea change to the Right. And Down.

Maybe BHO is playing nth-dimensional chess, with the expected outcome the total devastation of the economy, and the infinitesimal possibility that the dire situation will knock some sense into a majority of the population and some good politicians will be elected who aren't so craven and selfish.

MrFizzy August 2, 2011 at 2:36 pm

What crash? Fuckingteabaggers.com is up 200% since yesterday.

samsuncle August 2, 2011 at 2:36 pm

Is it too late to stock up my bunker with ammo and hobo beans?

smokefilleddoommate August 2, 2011 at 3:26 pm

It all comes in one convenient can now–Beans 'n' Ammo.

mourningnmerica August 2, 2011 at 4:31 pm

I hate to say it, but Glenn Beck was right about gold. We should all try to get us some before it goes to 5 grand.

Ducksworthy August 2, 2011 at 2:37 pm

Fidelity sent me a newsletter explaining how the market would take off after the debt vote.

user-of-owls August 2, 2011 at 2:41 pm

It sure did. Ran away like a rocket and it ain't coming back.

user-of-owls August 2, 2011 at 2:37 pm

“At least Obama is better than _____” and fill in whatever Republican bogeyman.

"All" would seem apt.

savethispatient August 2, 2011 at 2:41 pm

I believe you mean "All of them, Katie"

HobbesEvilTwin August 2, 2011 at 2:59 pm

sadly, that is true: Obama is better than any of them; but he still sucks balls.

DaRooster August 2, 2011 at 3:35 pm

Not mine… yet…
Now ass fucking, yes.

BarackMyWorld August 2, 2011 at 3:17 pm
SayItWithWookies August 2, 2011 at 2:37 pm

As soon as the ideal presidential candidate runs, I'll vote for him/her. Given that elections usually come down to two people and their respective qualifications, I'd prefer not to sit on my hands and cede control to the folks who have shown they'll make Scott Walker look like a hippie if they get the chance.

Limeylizzie August 2, 2011 at 3:12 pm

Thanks Wookies, now can you go over and scream that in Jane Hamsher's ear.

pdiddycornchips August 2, 2011 at 3:13 pm

Got it. If you think Hopey has underperformed, suck it. You have no place else to go.

SayItWithWookies August 2, 2011 at 3:15 pm

You can always vote for Nader. I'm sure that'll work out one of these days. But I'll bite — what do you suggest?

pdiddycornchips August 2, 2011 at 8:13 pm

I suggest disengagement. Think local. Vote and invest time where it can make a difference. Our overlords will get along just fine without the 5% of the population still capable of thinking for themselves.

Chet Kincaid August 2, 2011 at 8:26 pm

Thanks, that wasn't necessary – your agenda is clear!

mourningnmerica August 2, 2011 at 4:42 pm

Not true. Based on his appalling performance liberals would be much much better off with Romney and a Dem congress. Think I'm kidding? If America votes for Mittens, they will certainly balance him out by electing a Dem majority. We would be much better off. Nancy Pelosi is not a coward. This insane legislation would not pass with her in charge of the House.
I despise Mittens as much as the next guy, but Hopey is an unmitigated disaster. He is so gutless that is is difficult to find the words to describe him. He gave them every last motherfucking thing they wanted. It's as if he were leader of the Tea Party. Those of you still supporting him because you like him so much need to take a good, long hard look at your thinking. The guy is harming the nation. He needs to go.
P.S. I'm glad the downfisty button is gone. I suspect I would have taken a big negative on this post.

Chet Kincaid August 2, 2011 at 4:59 pm

Wow.

DarwinianDemon August 2, 2011 at 5:23 pm

Don't argue with facts, Chet.

Remember the Dem Majority elected by the people in 2000 to balance out Bush? No?

Well I am very angry that this new legislation has an amendment for Cut and Cap like the Teabaggers (And BFF Mitt Romney) wanted and cuts SS and Medicare. What? It doesn't?

Huh…

Well…..GARBLE GARBLE GARBLE!

BarackMyWorld August 2, 2011 at 3:18 pm
V572 Hair of Destiny August 2, 2011 at 3:51 pm

Doesn't every election come down to that?

No wait, I remember one that didn't…seems like it was about three years ago. How were we to know that Hopey would turn out to be Bush in minstrel paint? "Yassuh, Mistuh Koch, we be doin what you be wantin!"

But seriously, he's going to kill the "Bush" tax cuts next time. No kidding, he's serious!

Chet Kincaid August 2, 2011 at 4:13 pm

But seriously, Hopey's earned the nigger jokes, so let 'em fly, progressives!

DarwinianDemon August 2, 2011 at 4:40 pm

Progressives can't be racist, silly. They can make as many "lawn jockey" jokes as they want. Ask Ralph Nader.

mourningnmerica August 2, 2011 at 4:44 pm

I thought I had one, but he already has a warm place to take a shit.

OneDollarJuana August 2, 2011 at 5:04 pm

I voted for Obama fully aware that he was a middle-of-the-roader, but I felt that he would sign any good legislation that Congress sent him. I had no idea that he would scuttle good legislation before it even got to Congress. How can the Dems fight if he take their bullets as the battle begins?

Chet Kincaid August 2, 2011 at 5:53 pm

He doesn't "take their bullets," he counts the votes ahead of time with the realization that there are no longer any moderate Republicans he can peel off on the other side.

In answer to your question, elect more Democrats.

Swampgas_Man August 2, 2011 at 7:08 pm

Hey, I voted for the "Middle of the Roader" because the alternative was "the Old Guy in the Gutter". The Pure is the enemy of the Pretty Good.

imissopus August 2, 2011 at 3:19 pm

It is a little nuts that people sat out the election last fall in protest of Obama not being liberal enough, which let a bunch of truly right-wing morons waltz in and take control of the House of Reps, thus making Obama's job that much harder, and now some of these same people are screaming that he still isn't pulling magic unicorns out of his ass. It's like chopping off Carl Lewis's right leg and then wondering why he's getting slower times in the 100-m dash.

mourningnmerica August 2, 2011 at 4:48 pm

No, it's not. You are absolutely wrong. He could have stood up to these misogynist racists and stopped them. Beaten them. Just as Clinton did.
No, the problem is him. He is a coward. Why can't you see this? Shit, I was his biggest fan. No one was happier than me when he got elected. But you need to take your fucking rose colored glasses off. Get your head out of your ass and look at how he has behaved, what he has done. Stop being intellectually lazy. Wake the fuck up. We need better.

imissopus August 2, 2011 at 5:42 pm

He could have stood up to these misogynist racists and stopped them. Beaten them.

And you have evidence to support your thesis? Wishful thinking doesn't make it true.

My opinion is that we are at the point where the "Obama sold us out!" meme has so taken hold that anything that even hints of compromise with the GOP turns people into frothing rage machines. But then, I obviously have my head up my ass.

Chet Kincaid August 2, 2011 at 5:56 pm

You've got to spend at least $500 on a good Italian rage machine if you want a decent froth.

fuflans August 2, 2011 at 7:00 pm

you're making me feel a hell of lot better.

i was so pissed at commentary last night i spilled wine all over my porch.

KenLayIsAlive August 2, 2011 at 9:13 pm

Come on, "hints" of compromise?

Now, there's been a little more than just "hints" of compromise, wouldn't you say?

This doesn't particularly have do do exactly with anything you've said, this just seems like a good place to drop it. And god knows I've bothered Chet enough.

This whole thing with people not voting. Barack Obama needs to do things to rally his base. He doesn't do them. In fact, when he gets the chance, he insults his base. Politicians are supposed to kiss babies and make people feel important, not say they need to be "drug tested" and call them "unrealistic" when he drops the ball on things.

Not make a deal that flies in the face of everything his base believes in and then say "This is a great deal for the American People". The what? Is there a fucking "American People" anymore? Far as I can see, there is just the haves and have nots. "American People" my ass. Good deal for some, bad deal for others. The President needs to figure out whose side he is on and forget about this "American People" nonsense. Play to the base, make people feel important, make people feel empowered. Tell them the fucking truth from their perspective. That's what gets votes. Not aloof above-it-all-ness.

If he didn't want to be a fucking politician, he should have stayed out of politics.

zappadoo76 August 2, 2011 at 4:44 pm

Lesser of two evils? Oh, horseshit. (I don't mean that in a bad way.)

VeraSevera August 3, 2011 at 12:36 pm

Draft Hillary. She MIGHT be better. And she MIGHT even win.

freakishlywrong August 2, 2011 at 2:38 pm

SOMEbody is probably not getting laid tonight.

Sharkey August 2, 2011 at 2:48 pm

I don't think he'd be up for it anyway, seeing that Congress just kicked him in the nuts.

Limeylizzie August 2, 2011 at 3:06 pm

You mean other than me?

FNMA August 2, 2011 at 3:48 pm

I'm not doing anything tonight…

Limeylizzie August 2, 2011 at 4:07 pm

Mutual fapping at midnight? I'm on Pacific Coast Time.

Nothingisamiss August 2, 2011 at 3:42 pm

We all still believe in MIchelle.

guangho August 2, 2011 at 3:57 pm

And how because of Michelle, I'm going to get laid tonight?

SorosBot August 2, 2011 at 2:38 pm

Now just to wait for the invasion of the Visigoths to finish us off.

Giveusabob August 2, 2011 at 2:49 pm

Personally, I'd opt for the Ostrogoths. They perhaps could help reintroduce such chronically elusive concepts like "freedom of religion" to the body politic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostrogothic_Kingdom#

pinkocommi August 2, 2011 at 9:42 pm

That's no way to refer to China. Or, I should write, 中國. It is best to learn the language of our overlords.

PalinPussyPower August 2, 2011 at 2:38 pm

I should have listened to my Uncle Jebediah. This is what happens when you put black people in charge.

scionkirk August 2, 2011 at 2:46 pm

Well, Obama is half white, so it could just be a continuation of the previous 'winning streak'

FNMA August 2, 2011 at 2:38 pm

I'm going to start putting all my money in pitchforks and torches.

scionkirk August 2, 2011 at 2:42 pm

or grave digging shovels and coffins

smokefilleddoommate August 2, 2011 at 3:09 pm

And today's economic news: Hoes are up, but pimps seem to be taking the plunge.

GunToting[Redacted] August 2, 2011 at 3:11 pm

You're kidding, right? That's quality meat, there!

GhostBuggy August 2, 2011 at 11:30 pm

Ha ha, coffins! Remember you typed that when they're tossing our naked corpses into pauper's graves.

DaRooster August 3, 2011 at 10:50 am

Might as well just use the pitchforks to toss the monies onto the torches… at least we'll stay warm this winter.

BaldarTFlagass August 2, 2011 at 2:38 pm

In related news, Herbert Hoover's stock just rose.

mavenmaven August 2, 2011 at 2:38 pm

We love Iraq and Afghanistan so much that we want to have their economic ratings.

MrFizzy August 2, 2011 at 3:15 pm

Well, we're paving their fucking roads, why not?

scionkirk August 2, 2011 at 2:38 pm

But if he actually used government to do things, Tea Baggers might be even meaner to him. They can say some pretty hurtful things, you know.

emmelemm August 2, 2011 at 2:48 pm

"tar baby"

Terry August 2, 2011 at 3:00 pm

They'll also "primary" the few moderate Republicans left or any of the conservatives who even talk to him.

genxr August 2, 2011 at 2:39 pm

This is good news for the top 1%.

widestanceroman August 2, 2011 at 2:45 pm

And not news at all for the rest of us.

Lionel[redacted]Esq August 2, 2011 at 2:56 pm

Today we are all the other 99%.

DashboardBuddha August 2, 2011 at 3:03 pm

That's who this whole donkey fuck show was designed for. Mission accomplished!

comrad_darkness August 2, 2011 at 4:30 pm

We may be down to the 0.5% now. Can't support THAT many non-productive extremely high-maintenance citizens you know.

SenileAgitation August 2, 2011 at 4:50 pm

Christ, what isn't these days.

deanbooth August 2, 2011 at 6:10 pm

And for Joe the Plumber.

missemish August 2, 2011 at 2:39 pm

I can always count on Wonkette to cheer me up about the state of our country. If you'll excuse me, I'm out of gin.

MLHencken August 2, 2011 at 2:48 pm

No more Hendrick's "in The New Economy". It's Bathtub Gin for everyone from here on out.

Come here a minute August 2, 2011 at 2:54 pm

Don't mind the gurgling sound of the government being drowned in your gin.

Gleem_McShineys August 2, 2011 at 4:10 pm

Grover Norquist promises to lay down towels and keep the splashing to a minimum.

Swampgas_Man August 2, 2011 at 7:11 pm

Just remember to clean the tub out after your bath.

freakishlywrong August 2, 2011 at 2:55 pm

We'll be drinking all those old drinks that Mr. Burns drinks like "sidecars" and "lime rickeys".

MLHencken August 2, 2011 at 3:00 pm

Ooh, I like a good sidecar.

You know, many of those prohibition era cocktails used those exotic recipes to kill the taste of shitty homemade or/or watered down booze.

I am a booze snob/nerd. Apologies.

MinAgain August 2, 2011 at 3:01 pm

Bathtub gin, hell. Times like these call for moonshine.

MLHencken August 2, 2011 at 2:39 pm

Wait, weren't we told this wouldn't happen as long as we went along with whatever the GOP wanted to do? That's compromise, right?

Happy "We avoided default, but not consequence" Day everyone.

comrad_darkness August 2, 2011 at 4:31 pm

The default would have been more exciting.

mourningnmerica August 2, 2011 at 4:52 pm

Oh, but that he just had a tiny bit of uppity in him. Alas…

Ducksworthy August 2, 2011 at 2:39 pm

I suspect this has to do with institutional investors realizing that a minority party of lunatics is now dictating economic policy.

GOPCrusher August 2, 2011 at 3:38 pm

Word.

poorgradstudent August 2, 2011 at 4:02 pm

And more and more of the rest of the world is like, "Step away from the wheel of the global economy slowly."

bureaucrap August 2, 2011 at 2:39 pm

Krugman/Kucinich 2012! Finally, Short people have a reason to live!

MrFizzy August 2, 2011 at 3:16 pm

You need to throw Robt Reich in there too – bring the average down to 4-11.

BaldarTFlagass August 2, 2011 at 2:40 pm

You know who else Obama was not as bad as?

SudsMcKenzie August 2, 2011 at 2:44 pm

Sammy Hagar ?

SayItWithWookies August 2, 2011 at 2:45 pm

All of them, Katie.

Nothingisamiss August 2, 2011 at 3:45 pm

Yes, Wookie.

MLHencken August 2, 2011 at 2:48 pm

WIlliam Howard Taft?

weejee August 2, 2011 at 2:49 pm

Pogo the Clown?

fartknocker August 2, 2011 at 2:52 pm

Red Skelton?

Boredw/Gravitas August 2, 2011 at 2:54 pm

Ted Bundy?

HobbesEvilTwin August 2, 2011 at 3:02 pm

Lyndon Johnson?

HobbesEvilTwin August 2, 2011 at 3:20 pm

At least LBJ had the sense to to not seek a second term.

V572 Hair of Destiny August 2, 2011 at 3:54 pm

Obama could still change his mind. Nobody knew LBJ would quit until he announced it after the Tet offensive.

guangho August 2, 2011 at 3:59 pm

LBJ., monumental fuckup though he was in Vietnam, did something for the other 99% of the country as well. BHO couldn't lick LBJ's shoes.

mourningnmerica August 2, 2011 at 4:54 pm

The Tea offensive has already happened. Hopey, please take a cue from Sarah, and quit.

MinAgain August 2, 2011 at 3:02 pm

80% of the Tennessee General Assembly?

Nothingisamiss August 2, 2011 at 3:48 pm

There's no way 20% is that good.

Doktor Zoom August 2, 2011 at 3:02 pm

The commentariat at Yahoo News?

smokefilleddoommate August 2, 2011 at 3:05 pm

Ebola? Wait–that's a 'what', not a 'who'.
Dorf?

BarackMyWorld August 2, 2011 at 3:07 pm

Youtube commenters?

SorosBot August 2, 2011 at 3:07 pm

Ivan the Terrible?

genxr August 2, 2011 at 3:08 pm

In Soviet Russia, joke is not as bad as you!

OneDollarJuana August 2, 2011 at 4:19 pm

In Soviet Washington DC, you are the joke!

BTWBFDIMHO August 2, 2011 at 3:10 pm

Rebekah Brooks?

chicken_thief August 2, 2011 at 3:17 pm

Kenneth Lay, Pres of Enron?!

nappyduggs August 2, 2011 at 3:37 pm

Leroy Muthafuckin' Brown.

GOPCrusher August 2, 2011 at 3:39 pm

Getting your testicles caught in a bear trap?

mourningnmerica August 2, 2011 at 4:55 pm

It feels about the same, actually.

nounverb911 August 2, 2011 at 2:40 pm

This is good news for Sarah Palin?

chicken_thief August 2, 2011 at 3:18 pm

She's been working on her take on the deal, but FB was down.

GOPCrusher August 2, 2011 at 3:40 pm

If there is one good thing to come of this fiasco, it will be to hear the harpies like Palin and Bachmann shrieking about how the debt ceiling got raised.

Monsieur_Grumpe August 2, 2011 at 2:41 pm

*Sounds of the government drowning in a bath tub*

MLHencken August 2, 2011 at 2:49 pm

..of Gin? (see above).

Come here a minute August 2, 2011 at 2:55 pm

d'oh! (see above.)

Monsieur_Grumpe August 2, 2011 at 2:58 pm

All I see is the ceiling.
???????

weejee August 2, 2011 at 3:05 pm

And mosquitoes, come on now be honest MG.

BaldarTFlagass August 2, 2011 at 3:00 pm

Hark, do I hear the sound of Grover Norquist fapping?

Monsieur_Grumpe August 2, 2011 at 3:05 pm

What do you think it's drowning in?

smokefilleddoommate August 2, 2011 at 3:12 pm

Eww. Grover juice.

Monsieur_Grumpe August 2, 2011 at 3:17 pm

Yeah, I know. After I wrote that I have this picture stuck in my head of a tub filled with Teabagger jizz. Triple ewww.

genxr August 2, 2011 at 3:09 pm

Strangulation and drowning of the people, by the people, and for the people.

Come here a minute August 2, 2011 at 3:14 pm

It shall not perish from this earth.

Fox n Fiends August 2, 2011 at 2:41 pm

…and tonight we're gonna party like its eighteen ninety-nine.

loulouroo August 2, 2011 at 2:42 pm

So, this is our socialist president's plan to make the investor class hurt after all. Take THAT Grover Norquist!

Lionel[redacted]Esq August 2, 2011 at 2:42 pm

There was no Stock Market when the Founders first decreed there should be no taxes on anyone, so the 'Baggers will not care about this.

SudsMcKenzie August 2, 2011 at 2:47 pm

Mr. Hutz, do you know you're not wearing any pants?

slithytoves August 2, 2011 at 2:42 pm

Wow, it's really tanking now. Good thing all my cash is tied up in coin jars.

missemish August 2, 2011 at 2:46 pm

yeah, my procrastination over getting money invested is starting to look like sound business sense

Boredw/Gravitas August 2, 2011 at 2:55 pm

Look at you, all stuck up with fancy jars for your coins. An Altoids box is plenty big for the few nickels I have left.

Monsieur_Grumpe August 2, 2011 at 3:00 pm

I invested in empty cardboard boxes.
I'll be rich relatively speaking!!!!!

genxr August 2, 2011 at 3:45 pm

I drank all my whiskey futures. Now I'm ruined! But happy.

Lucidamente1 August 2, 2011 at 2:43 pm

I hear John Edwards is available.

user-of-owls August 2, 2011 at 2:44 pm

Hey, this bill is only 1,933 miles from my house!

Too soon!!

not that Dewey August 3, 2011 at 11:47 pm

My portfolio is down FIVE AND A HALF PERCENT, ALAN!

cheetojeebus August 2, 2011 at 2:44 pm

the plutocarts will be polishing their Faberges right about now. Which is translated into poorspeak as; " rubbin' one out. "

hagajim August 2, 2011 at 3:54 pm

Sometime in the near future we may have to rub one out – to eat.

smitallica August 2, 2011 at 2:44 pm

Huh. If only some economists had warned us that cutting spending during a recession was a dumbfuck thing to do.

smokefilleddoommate August 2, 2011 at 2:44 pm

Yay!! Nothing.

owhatever August 2, 2011 at 2:45 pm

The rule is to buy stocks when there is blood running in the streets. But who are the only ones with the cash to load up on Acme Inc.? The rich, and one stupid coyote. See how it works?

mrblifil August 2, 2011 at 2:46 pm

That's because all the investors promised Glenn Beck they'd shift to Gold if we didn't go into default.

Goonemeritus August 2, 2011 at 2:47 pm

Ok I’m starting to sense a inkling of disappointment in Obama surfacing on this site. Well I know we have been snarking our asses off here so none of this could be our fault. Maybe if the other fifty precent of the progressive media can join the half that is already vowing to sit the next election out?

FNMA August 2, 2011 at 3:35 pm

President Bachmann?
I hear Costa Rica's nice. And it's far enough away that the smoke shouldn't be too bad.

littlebigdaddy August 2, 2011 at 2:47 pm

So whatsay the Wonkette community all chips in to buy BO a case of hobo beans for his birfday tomorrow. Maybe we can hire Orly Taitz to sing "Happy Birthday Mr. President."

smokefilleddoommate August 2, 2011 at 3:17 pm

♫♪ Show me your birf certificate, Mister President.. ♪♫

x111e7thst August 2, 2011 at 2:48 pm

Didn't we try this balance the budget bullshit during the last Great Depression? I wonder how that worked out?

HobbesEvilTwin August 2, 2011 at 3:04 pm

it will be different this time — the teatards said so!

BarackMyWorld August 2, 2011 at 3:12 pm

I have it on good authority that it was too much government regulation and spending that caused the depression 4 years after it started and kept it going until the free market policies single-handedly won World War II.

Nothingisamiss August 2, 2011 at 3:55 pm

If only there were people who studied this stuff, and people who listened to those mythic beasts. Seems hard, though. Hey, have you seen the new episode of "Jersey Shore?"

MinAgain August 2, 2011 at 2:49 pm

Bitter? Oh, a tad.

DaRooster August 2, 2011 at 2:50 pm

"So when you go to sleep tonight with the Fear gnawing at your belly…"

Sleep? Not possible… FUCK YOU ASS-CLOWNS!

Limeylizzie August 2, 2011 at 3:08 pm

Sometimes I go to sleep with MrLimeyLizzie gnawing at my belly, so I tell him to put his glasses on.

MozakiBlocks August 2, 2011 at 3:11 pm

It must be pure magic at your house.

Limeylizzie August 2, 2011 at 3:14 pm

It is a world of crazy.

Steverino247 August 2, 2011 at 2:53 pm

Here's the real reason for the drop in stocks: http://news.yahoo.com/u-recovers-180-million-coca

Fucking brokers lost a semi-submersible sub full of nose candy.

SudsMcKenzie August 2, 2011 at 3:02 pm

Ill tell Little Timmy, there will be no Christmas this year.

Atlas Frooged August 2, 2011 at 3:18 pm

At least the gov't can sell it recoup the losses from The Grand Fucking Bargain Bill (now with Bipartisan©).

DaRooster August 2, 2011 at 3:39 pm

"U.S. authorities have recovered nearly 30,000 15,000 pounds of cocaine worth an estimated $360 million $180 million from a sunken submarine-like vessel used by smugglers off the coast of Honduras, the Coast Guard said on Monday."

I shoulda joined the Coast Guard…

Steverino247 August 2, 2011 at 4:00 pm

Being over six feet tall, I was heavily recruited to join.

(For those who don't know the joke, you have to be over six feet tall to join the Coast Guard. That way, if the boat sinks you can wade ashore.)

DaRooster August 4, 2011 at 3:35 pm

Kinda like you have to be under 5'6" to be a California Highway Patrol officer… I guess so you will have a Napoleon Complex and be a Dick-Head.

Lionel[redacted]Esq August 2, 2011 at 2:53 pm

Hoping the 'Baggers will admit they have no idea what they are doing is like waiting for the Conservative movement to admit they have failed at everything they have tried over the last 30 years (other than to destroy government and to fuck over the poor. . . they have been very good at that). Since 1980, we have seen the tax system totally changed in favor of the rich, education redone in a conservative mode, the rise of FOX News and Conservative media, Republican control of much of government and most of the courts, and Conservative/Neocon dominated firing policy. And, in those thirty-years, all the Republicans can show for it is that they are at least partially on their way to achieving Ronald Reagan's dream of making this country what it once was, and arctic landscape covered in ice.

DaRooster August 2, 2011 at 3:47 pm

Yeah, but don't forget all the jobs… I for one have never seen so many "Help Wanted" signs and such a thriving economy… that part is just friggin' AWESOME.

V572 Hair of Destiny August 2, 2011 at 3:57 pm

You enumerate those "conservative" successes as if they were failures.

pdiddycornchips August 2, 2011 at 4:24 pm

Ummm, I must disagree. If you're a billionaire, this place is like heaven on acid.

TheSheriffsNear August 2, 2011 at 10:04 pm

You forgot to hat tip Steve Martin for that last line. I remember when he did that bit live on SNL in the 80's. (Where's my geritol?)

nappyduggs August 2, 2011 at 2:54 pm

So, ummm, this country– are we still doin' that?

Papa_Uniform August 2, 2011 at 3:50 pm

Prolly not. Check with me next week.

Radiotherapy® August 2, 2011 at 2:54 pm

How's my Wonkette stock doing?

Doktor Zoom August 2, 2011 at 3:15 pm

It's up.

Up the wazoo, that is.

Atlas Frooged August 2, 2011 at 3:19 pm

Through the chute!

emmelemm August 2, 2011 at 3:34 pm

Eh, your P-points look OK. That's all that matters, right?

lowaltflier August 2, 2011 at 2:57 pm

I've had enough. I'll be voting for the Green party in 20120. Won't you join me?

FlownOver August 2, 2011 at 2:59 pm

Yeah. That's about when I'll vote for the Green party.

BaldarTFlagass August 2, 2011 at 3:06 pm

Mighty optimistic there, assuming there's going to enough of a civilization left to hold elections.

BarackMyWorld August 2, 2011 at 3:09 pm

That worked out so well for me in 2000.

DaRooster August 2, 2011 at 3:13 pm

Oh… so it's your fault Bush won… thanks a bundle.

(Well, you and the cheating)

GunToting[Redacted] August 2, 2011 at 3:16 pm

I've been to Centreville, VA (ZIP 20120). I don't think there are any polling places (too urban).

BaldarTFlagass August 2, 2011 at 3:33 pm

Isn't that where that hot Spelling chick lived?

lowaltflier August 2, 2011 at 3:51 pm

2012 Dam!

You people are great. That’s why I love this site.

Seriously until we brake the assumption that if you don’t vote for one of the two main parities you are throwing your vote away. Nothing will change.
I for one feel if I vote for the person who best represents me is not throwing my vote away.
I never voted for Clinton or Gore. Then I voted for Kerry because I couldn’t stand having Bush for 4 more years. You all know what happened.
And Obama comes with all his hope and change and he seem like a true progressive.
Then he put up the white flag and surrenders.

So yeah. I’ll be voting Green in 2012.

DarwinianDemon August 2, 2011 at 5:00 pm

Whenever the thought of voting Green Party strikes me I ask myself "Would we be here right now if Gore had clobbered Bush in 2000 so that it couldn't be stolen?"

VeraSevera August 2, 2011 at 3:00 pm

Obama, in an act of pure hubris (who needs a party or a Congress or a legislative process when you have my negotiating superpowers), has helped usher in a new regime; he has effectively Californicated the Federal government–gridlock, minority rule, supermajority democracy, permanent fiscal crisis, and perennial budget battles. Welcome to the future of government in America….So what will save us from another four years of Barack "Everything's on the Table" Obama? Repeat after me: RUN HILLARY RUN!

mourningnmerica August 2, 2011 at 4:59 pm

I want Hillz too. SHE WOULD NOT TAKE ANY FUCKING SHIT FROM THAT FUCKING DWARF, JOHN BOEHNER.

DashboardBuddha August 2, 2011 at 3:01 pm

so…that's what freefall looks like.

plinkleton August 2, 2011 at 3:02 pm

please primary this blathering backstab

cheetojeebus August 2, 2011 at 3:02 pm

Gandhi will be on the cover of Vogue soon and 'poverty chic' will rule the racks down at the now empty mall. So, for once I'm ahead of the fashion curve.

mourningnmerica August 2, 2011 at 5:02 pm

Good post, plus you have one of my top five favorite names. You are still behind Writey Writerton, in my book.

donner_froh August 2, 2011 at 3:03 pm

The reversal of consumer spending probably has a lot more to do with the market dropping than the debt ceiling bill which has been part of the equation for at least a couple of days.

Doktor Zoom August 2, 2011 at 3:26 pm

Lousy, stinkin' voice of reason.

DarwinianDemon August 2, 2011 at 5:01 pm

Boooo…

This was the best screed since we learned Osama bin Laden was just a rag tag rebel leading freedom fighters against evil Americans. How dare you ruin it.

OneDollarJuana August 2, 2011 at 5:13 pm

Exactly. And what does this legislation portend for the jobs picture? Hence the stock market dropoff. Too bad the people with the money are so greedy and nearsighted that they can't realize that if they push some it to the 99.5% things will get much better.

And they'll still be fucking rich.

comrad_darkness August 2, 2011 at 5:42 pm

I've been kicking this around in my head lately. When we taxed CEOs at 50% (you know, the Reagan era) they said, hell, rather than take more salary and turn it over to uncle sam, I'll just pour it back into the company, that will show them. Hence CEO salaries were 50 times the average worker. Fast forward to 35% rates and a pile of fake life insurance loopholes that let companies quadruple compensation, untaxed and suddenly the ratio is 300x. Because it's all gravy. Why not pocket it all? But what that means is they have sucked up waaaay too many resources from the company. 250 employees worth. That's job destruction of the first order. No way anyone, capitalist or marxist, is going to successfully argue that company would not be better off with 250 more employees rather than one overfattened CEO.

randcoolcatdaddy August 2, 2011 at 3:07 pm

Oh please, let's dismantle Social Security so we can invest for our retirement in something really stable in the financial market – the lottery.

SudsMcKenzie August 2, 2011 at 3:12 pm

Your ideas intrigue me, do you have any literature?

genxr August 2, 2011 at 3:10 pm

See? if only we'd made even deeper cuts, eliminated the EPA, FDA, DOE, and passed a balanced budget amendment, none of this would have happened!

BaldarTFlagass August 2, 2011 at 3:11 pm

♫ Mister we could use a man like Jimmy Carter again ♪

mourningnmerica August 2, 2011 at 5:05 pm

We don't need no welfare state
Hobo beans is what we'll eat
We are meeting up with fate
So… blame the gheyyyyyys.

BarackMyWorld August 2, 2011 at 3:13 pm

Stepphen Colbert had interesting things to say about the president's negotiating strategy last night. http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-v

El Pinche August 2, 2011 at 3:14 pm

Super Congress = the shock doctrine in action.

yeah yeah wake up sheeple or whatever.

V572 Hair of Destiny August 2, 2011 at 3:59 pm

If Lieberman isn't among the 12 disciples of the Super Congress, then there is no Yahweh. Pork-ertunities like this don't come along every day.

MozakiBlocks August 2, 2011 at 3:14 pm

Dangnabbit Barry, I've defended you against all comers throughout the past 2 1/2 years of rampant fucknuttery, but this is just too much.

<heavy sigh>

BlueStateLibel August 2, 2011 at 3:16 pm

Obama attacking his supporters will definitely ensure that he gets reelected.

How many times do we have to tell him that no matter how much he appeases the teatards, they will still think he's a communist-Kenyan-muslim-socialist and worse. Maybe his base should start calling him bad names so he won't hate them?

donner_froh August 2, 2011 at 3:19 pm

FDR:

I should like to have it said of my first Administration that in it the forces of selfishness and of lust for power met their match. I should like to have it said of my second Administration that in it these forces met their master.

Works for me.

BaldarTFlagass August 2, 2011 at 3:38 pm

Nice. Now if Obama would just come down with polio, we're halfway there.

FNMA August 2, 2011 at 3:57 pm

“We had to struggle with the old enemies of peace — business and financial monopoly, speculation, reckless banking, class antagonism, sectionalism, war profiteering. … Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me — and I welcome their hatred.”

genxr August 2, 2011 at 6:01 pm

Barry's speech to the Chamber of Commerce — before the rewrite?

imissopus August 2, 2011 at 3:20 pm

I thought Layne had left to to rant on other outlets?

Chet Kincaid August 2, 2011 at 3:27 pm

I, for one, welcome Wonkette Jr.'s insight-free exaggerations, insults and tantrums!

SudsMcKenzie August 2, 2011 at 3:34 pm

me too, like watching Jake Cutler dropping back in the pocket.

DarwinianDemon August 2, 2011 at 4:48 pm

You know, this deal pisses me off. But my understanding is that (at least) the cuts exclude SS, Medicare and Pell. In addition, maybe things like…no copays for abortion snacks (aka birth control) don't mean much to some people, but…they kinda mean a lot ot me?

imissopus August 2, 2011 at 5:20 pm

That didn't have anything to do with the debt deal, but I figured that requiring insurance companies to cover birth control and other women's health services without charging co-pays was a pretty big fucking deal, especially considering how badly the Tea Party still wants to kill the AFA and how much progressive whining there has long been about healthcare reform being nothing but a sell-out to insurance companies.

But that was on Monday. What has Obama done for us today?

DarwinianDemon August 2, 2011 at 5:28 pm

I know it didn't have anything to do with the debt deal. the debt deal is a flippin' disaster. But it should fly into the face of people who say we should have MITT ROMNEY as president (like…someone actually right here on Wonkette).

imissopus August 2, 2011 at 5:15 pm

Ah, Chet. No snark, you are a beacon of rationality in this place.

Chet Kincaid August 2, 2011 at 5:27 pm

More true of you than me!

Cicada August 2, 2011 at 3:24 pm

Anybody But Obama in 2012, honestly.

Honestly? Hahahahahaha.

starfanglednut August 2, 2011 at 3:56 pm

Perhaps these wonkette are in their early 20's, and have yet to develop nuanced political views like us olds.

genxr August 2, 2011 at 6:02 pm

yes, life will pound you down, stomp on you, beat you up, and nuance the crap out of you. Then life will sit back, point at your bloody face and laugh.

starfanglednut August 2, 2011 at 7:09 pm

Oh sorry, did not mean to offend.

pdiddycornchips August 2, 2011 at 4:55 pm

Speaking only for myself, why bother participating at all? If the last four years have taught us anything, it's this. When you strip away all the pretty pictures and soaring rhetoric, it doesn't make any difference who wins. The policy outcomes are identical whether it 's Obama or Mittens or Bachmann. No matter who wins, we will continue headlong down the path. Our corporatist elites are hellbent on making our country a nation of serfs and overlords.

Cicada August 2, 2011 at 5:03 pm

I agree, you really should sit this one out. It isn't disenfranchisement if you do it to yourself!

Chet Kincaid August 2, 2011 at 5:06 pm

You seem hellbent on suppressing liberal and progressive votes, in general and for the Democratic party in particular. Why is that?

mourningnmerica August 2, 2011 at 7:21 pm

Boehner and Obama vs. Pelosi and Romney. Tell me, with a straight face, that the legislation coming out of the latter would be as rabidly right wing and pro wealthy and pro corporation as it is now. Go ahead, I dare you. I didn't think so.

But the point is, we should not take these kind of failures and betrayals from Hopey, AND CONTINUE WITH THE CHEERLEADING FOR HIM.

Cicada August 2, 2011 at 8:35 pm

Yes, that's precisely my point. MINDLESS CHEERLEADING FOR ALL, INDEPENDENT THOUGHT FOR NONE!

Well parsed, genius.

El Pinche August 2, 2011 at 3:28 pm

"That's it , I'm going republican and voting for _________ ! "

genxr August 2, 2011 at 6:04 pm

Generic Republican, I like your style!

OneYieldRegular August 2, 2011 at 3:34 pm

Oh, I know! Pick me! Pick me!

"At least Obama is better than RALPH NADER."

There!

johnnyzhivago August 2, 2011 at 3:49 pm

I promise not to key cars with Nader bumper stickers again!

GOPCrusher August 2, 2011 at 3:49 pm

Perhaps.
But I think it would not be too much of a stretch to say that Obama would win in a contest against David Duke.

proudgrampa August 2, 2011 at 3:34 pm

Hmmm. Yeah, I'm pissed off, too. But the market is reacting to much more than the debt thingy.

For what it's worth, Obama is in way over his head: there are market and political forces way beyond his (or anyone's) ability to understand, let alone control.

My recommendation: continue to stock up on gold, silver, and toilet paper.

johnnyzhivago August 2, 2011 at 3:50 pm

"way over his head" – more like somewhere between the center of the Milky Way and his head.

GOPCrusher August 2, 2011 at 3:53 pm

What's not to understand? Companies are awash with cash. We have the Legislative and Judicial branches that are firmly in the pocket of Big Business.
Yet the economy creeps along at 2% growth with over 9% unemployment despite the fact that over 800 billion dollars was thrown at it.
Anyone that still believes that we are not in a full blown class war, must own a unicorn.

Cicada August 2, 2011 at 4:03 pm

What's to understand is that this is a global economic crisis, and while our domestic policies do have some effect they are not the defining factor driving fluctuations in the the global economy.

The disparity between wealthy and poor in this country, OTOH, is definitely related to domestic policy. The stock market tumble, not so much.

ETA: Here's a nice piece on the economic shitstorm that's happening in Europe, for example: http://www.economist.com/blogs/schumpeter/2011/07

Atlas Frooged August 2, 2011 at 3:56 pm

By that token (no pun) what's BO got to lose by showing some spine or calling bullshit on conservatives. His best guess can't be any worse than quadrupling down on trickle-down-Norquist economics. The same cheats who caused the economic problem, and then benefited from the bailout of same, came up with some master plan that they pulled out of their ass a few weeks ago and wondered if they could shoehorn in place of a standard debt ceiling vote. At this rate he's out of options and rapidly jeopardizing any chance of reelection.

mourningnmerica August 2, 2011 at 7:23 pm

Gold and silver yes. Toilet, paper… we can use ones and fives.

BaldarTFlagass August 2, 2011 at 3:34 pm

My feelings of hope have certainly undergone quite a change.

Atlas Frooged August 2, 2011 at 3:47 pm

New Hope is knowing you're going to get kicked in the satchels, you just hope it doesn't make you vomit.

BaldarTFlagass August 2, 2011 at 3:36 pm

*Clenches and raises fists, looks heavenward*

MENDOZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!

Duly_Noted August 2, 2011 at 3:36 pm

So we're putting off the inevitable victory of progressivism over conservatism for a few more days?

hagajim August 2, 2011 at 3:42 pm

You know, I thought li'l Barry was a scholar and shit….I guess he was a token placement in college because almost ANYONE who has ever read even a little bit of American history knows that this same shit happened during the Depression. We were just coming out of our funk and the Republicans stomped on government spending – sending us back into a fucking Depression which we then needed a WAR to get out of. Who is for invading any country right now – oh wait, I forgot we're already in two of them and it makes no fucking difference!

GunToting[Redacted] August 2, 2011 at 4:26 pm

The problem here is that our wars don't generate the same GDP gains that WWII did. You know what this means? China, we're coming for you!

Chet Kincaid August 2, 2011 at 4:26 pm

Yeah, fucking teleprompter-reading affirmative-action case!

Cicada August 2, 2011 at 4:35 pm

Can you fucking criticize the guy without going to the racist as fuck "token" well?

For fuck's sake, people. I know for a fact that people were able to criticize W here without calling him a honky every two minutes. There was another comment on this post where someone complained about Obots calling them racist. Later on I see a comment about Obama being in blackface and saying yessuh. Now this token crap.

STOP IT, YOU FUCKING CRACKERS.*

*Ironic, because I am a lily-white honky cunt.

hagajim August 3, 2011 at 11:19 am

My apologies – the li'l part is actually related to the fact that the man has NO balls and he will be li'l Barry until he grows a pair. The token part was a bit racist – though not intentioned to be that way, besides sometimes ya gotta snark on this crap.

DarwinianDemon August 2, 2011 at 4:45 pm

Bringing home the racism. Good for you. Negate the rest of your point completely.

johnnyzhivago August 2, 2011 at 3:43 pm

I'm running for president. My platform is to raid Goldman Sachs, execute their management and steal their money. Then use all of it to build the Space Elevator so we can get off of this fucking nightmare of a planet.

BaldarTFlagass August 2, 2011 at 3:45 pm

You have some interesting ideas. Do you have a newsletter to which I could subscribe?

johnnyzhivago August 2, 2011 at 3:59 pm

Nope – I just placed an order for 1.5 million twitter followers.

mourningnmerica August 2, 2011 at 7:24 pm

Can you steal stolen money? Reboosting?

johnnyzhivago August 2, 2011 at 3:47 pm

Eddie Bauer is going to make a killing outfitting all these baby boomer Hobos!!!

johnnyzhivago August 2, 2011 at 3:52 pm

C-SPAN announces it will switch to exclusively airing kooky kitten videos for the next several months.

starfanglednut August 2, 2011 at 3:53 pm

Wonkette is making me bitterer and sadderer today. Can we please have a nice post about a teabagger grocery list?

glamourdammerung August 2, 2011 at 3:55 pm

I sometimes wonder if the conservative hatred towards France is due to the French had a much more…interesting way of dealing with the ultra-wealthy trying to run society on the backs of everyone else.

donner_froh August 2, 2011 at 3:57 pm

The Dow looks like September, 2008.

johnnyzhivago August 2, 2011 at 3:58 pm

This would be a GREAT TIME for Obama to release that photo of Osama's brains coming out of his ears.

HelmutNewton August 2, 2011 at 4:14 pm

Hopey's new Secret Service designation is "BOHICA"…

alaninthecastro August 2, 2011 at 4:37 pm

I think it's official now: Barack Obama, second-worst President of the 21st century.

JustPixelz August 2, 2011 at 4:50 pm

At least we finally know how well Repubican/Tea Party economic ideas are liked by the markets out here in the real world. OH WAIT! We already learned that while Shrubby was in charge.

Uniprober August 2, 2011 at 4:51 pm

"two zero-sum opponents pitting all of the country’s old people against all of its bombs and its torture dungeons" I smell an awesome pay per view event…

VeraSevera August 2, 2011 at 4:59 pm

The silver lining is supposed to be the giant cuts to defense that are part of this deal and that will be triggered automatically if the Dirty Dozen Committee ends in deadlock. Ha-ha, in your dreams. I smell another war on its way.

Quayle2012_KNOT August 2, 2011 at 5:17 pm

Any three year period that makes me pine for 1967-1970 should be banned by the Geneva Convention. A Nation waits for a glimmer of hope from Wisconsin. Show us a sign!

mumbly_joe August 2, 2011 at 5:20 pm

So, everybody saying, "yeah, vote 3rd party/anybody but Obama/primary Obama":

Way to take exactly the WRONG lesson from the teabagpocalypse of 2010. Has anyone actually looked at the far-right third parties lately? One of the reasons the teabaggers surged was that they managed to poach the far-right, lunatic, white supremacist nutjobs from the cult of Ron Paul and from the Constitution party, and got them to vote as a block in the Republican party. They co-opted the extreme far-right and merged them into their own, already-lunatic base.

You want reliably liberal Democrats in office? Vote on issues with your pocket book and in primaries. Most politicians are feckless and will think what the money tells them to, and primaries are for filtering out the unpalatable ideologues. BUT STILL VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS IN GENERALS. With very, very few exceptions, a vote for a third party is a vote against the guy you would have picked if there were only two choices. Because ultimately, in American politics, there really only are.

MistaEko August 2, 2011 at 5:20 pm

Where are the jobs?

In short-selling.

mormos August 2, 2011 at 5:27 pm

At least Obama is better than Buddy Roemer.

hmm…

SenileAgitation August 2, 2011 at 5:29 pm

First they came for the tax increases for the wealthiest and I said nothing, because I'm a dick that way. Then they came for the EPA/environment with sneaky riders to Interior funding bills and I said nothing because, well I just didn't, right? Then they came for my hobo beans and funding for roads and things and with a miracle invented anguish over the sky-is-falling debt ceiling and I thought the people I voted for who said they were for those things would vote for policies that I believe, but they all showed their weiners and nobody would take them seriously anymore… sorry, I'm very disheartened. If I thought there was any "live to fight another day" I'd feel better, but not convinced the President is much of a fighter so far.

crybabyboehner August 2, 2011 at 5:29 pm

Ken is that you?

mourningnmerica August 2, 2011 at 5:43 pm

Let's just refer to the President as W2. It's deep, if you think about it.

Chet Kincaid August 2, 2011 at 5:44 pm

Dame Peggington Noonington welcomes all of you Hugely Disappointed Former Barryholics with open arms!
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904

Now, some people might wonder who benefits most from a consensus that Obama and the Democratic Party are no longer worth getting out of your goddamned beds and voting for, but that is beside the point. What's most important is withdrawing your support and disengaging as quickly as possible!

El Pinche August 2, 2011 at 6:27 pm

Relax! Go back to sleep sheeple. We're in control.

mourningnmerica August 2, 2011 at 7:34 pm

Chet, Blind Faith was my favorite band, but that was a long time ago. Get over him. It'll hurt for a while, but you can do it.

Chet Kincaid August 2, 2011 at 8:05 pm

Is there an URL where I can contribute to your "Democrats for Mittens" PAC?

poorgradstudent August 2, 2011 at 8:06 pm

I can't speak for my fellow Firebaggers (oh well, it's still better than "Professional Left"), but I'll still be voting for Obama. A horrible economic policy and a decent if flawed social policy is still better than a horrible economic policy and a medieval social policy.

ttommyunger August 2, 2011 at 9:00 pm

Well at least the rich don't have to pay higher taxes. Whew!

mrbubb August 2, 2011 at 10:09 pm

Should have gone with Hilary.

Designer_Rants August 2, 2011 at 11:04 pm

This article made me feel a lot better this morning. Obama is crazy like a fox on the Debt Ceiling deal, and the Repubs just painted themselves into a corner.
http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2011/08/paul-krugma

Negropolis August 3, 2011 at 1:05 am

Kind of to go along with this Rick "Ricktator" Snyder here in Michigan signed a bill that will toss 12,600 here in the state off the welfare rolls in a few months. I hear the new welfare reform, here, is now one of the toughest in the region after having been one of the most generous in the entire nation, so this will be a huge shock to our local society.

Perfect, we're throwing off tens of thousands of families off the rolls in a state with 10% unemployment. Hope they are ready for the influx of homelessness, something else they won't pay for.

Negropolis August 3, 2011 at 1:23 am

You know, if Sarah was president, at least we could laugh hysterically as we descended into economic hellfire. At least it would make terrifying sense.

CuddlesMcPoo August 3, 2011 at 6:42 am

These declines in world markets are due to Italy beginning to out suck Greece.

VeraSevera August 3, 2011 at 12:53 pm

It seems to me the job is nearly done now and what we're seeing is just the mopping up operations. The job: deregulate the economy and debilitate the democratic process. All that remains now is a turkey shoot on the remnants of the welfare state: the EPA, the unions, the teachers–BAM BAM BAM one by one they're falling by the wayside. Republicans no longer need to elect majorities or presidents to call the shots. Just have a united minority that says NO to everything and a government in constant near-default, and a permanent recession to make sure it stays that way. The next Republican president will take over a government so enfeebled s/he will be hard pressed to find new evils left to inflict upon us. That's why I wonder if it really matters whether Obama goes down in the next election or not. And then there's this: What IS his bottom line? What WON'T he put on the bargaining table? What leash can be put on him to keep him in line with the people? He seems constitutionally naive.

NadePaulKuciGravMcKi August 3, 2011 at 2:51 pm

Do The Wall Street Shuffle
& when black friday comes

Lascauxcaveman August 2, 2011 at 3:26 pm

Think they're smarter than everyone else, don't they?

riverside68 August 2, 2011 at 4:03 pm

I got one word for them: fucu

Guess I showed them a thing or two!

V572 Hair of Destiny August 2, 2011 at 4:05 pm

We could have a boring discussion of that. The only Great Society program that survived was Head Start. But Medicare was huge, larger than anyone could’ve imagined before cat scans, bypass operations, heart transplants, etc.So you are correct.

SayItWithWookies August 2, 2011 at 4:23 pm

What some folks don't grasp (and I'm not suggesting your comment was serious, but some like that are) is that politics is the art of ekeing out as much as you can while living with nearly constant disappointment. Whatever tide there is now is going to be pushed against a little bit later — and the only way to advance your cause is to have patience and push for the best available representation at the time.
Did Obama screw up this deal? Well given what he had to work with, it's hard for me to see how it could've come out much better. The answer isn't to get disgusted with our side, but to keep pushing it in the direction we want to go.

Limeylizzie August 2, 2011 at 4:41 pm

Sometimes I do the sexy librarian thing, or the filthy whore and wear really bright red lipstick.

SayItWithWookies August 2, 2011 at 4:48 pm

Now those are the Democrats who need to be primaried — the blue dogs who are thoughtlessly beholden to corporate interests and retrograde values and who are still afraid to do anything that might be characterized as liberal.

Chet Kincaid August 2, 2011 at 4:53 pm

Yeah, that would feel all nice and revenge-y, but pointless if the result is still a Democratic minority in one or both houses.

SorosBot August 2, 2011 at 4:55 pm

And, you know, the little matters of the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts. That's the thing about LBJ; if you ignore Vietnam, he doesn't just become a good President, he becomes a great one.

imissopus August 2, 2011 at 4:58 pm

Maybe. I just seem to recall reading a fair amount of commentary from liberals who proudly sat out the election to send Obama a message that he had to be more responsive to his base or something. And after the election I seem to recall reading some gloating about how NOW Obama would have to pay more attention to the base and what it wanted.

Some of us were saying that if we want more liberal policies we had to figure out how to elect a more liberal Congress. Instead we removed ourselves from the playing field.

V572 Hair of Destiny August 2, 2011 at 5:01 pm

Right again. Those were huge, contentious events, bitterly opposed by the granddaddies of the assholes who are ruining everything now. I was in the Senate gallery the day the Voting Rights Act of 1965 passed, and my history teacher (who’d orchestrated our trip to DC) said, “This is an historic day you’ll always remember.” I guess he was wrong, since I forgot.

imissopus August 2, 2011 at 5:29 pm

Also the Balanced Budget Amendment the Tea Party demanded Boehner throw in before they would vote for it. What about THAT?

Wait, what? Okay, well, at least they have to vote on it again sometime early next year, giving themselves an issue with which to demagogue during the elections! Oh, that requirement is gone too?

But Hopey sold us out! Throw me a frickin' bone here!

Duly_Noted August 2, 2011 at 5:56 pm

I couldn't say it better.

mourningnmerica August 2, 2011 at 7:13 pm

Darwin, Come on, don't misrepresent what I said. I am as credentialed a lefty as anyone on this site. What I said was that we would be better of with Mittens and a Dem congress. Did you miss that part? And the part about my despising Romney?

I believe that it would be very, very difficult to deny the fact that the legislation coming out of this country right now is further to the right than it ever was under any Democratic President. Do you disagree? Hopey has totally folded in the face of the bullying of the lunatic right. Honestly, do you disagree? That Bill is a Tea Party Bill. They are calling the tune. It didn't have to be like this. Mitt Romney / Nancy Pelosi would result in a much less extreme right wing legislating congress than we have now. Would you disagree?

Do you disagree that a Dem controlled House would have never, ever, have let a bill like this see the light of day? It seems to me that this point is not even debatable.

I suggested that the laws being passed would be more just, more centrist, if Mittens were President with a Dem congress. I think that this is not only true, but sort of obvious. Maybe you don't agree.

My beef with you and Chet and others is that it seems to me that there is perhaps nothing Obama could do wrong that would cause you to stop supporting him. I see what I consider to be blind support for him, and it does bother me. It seems intellectually lazy to me. Maybe I'm wrong.

Being as objective as I can be, based on his actions thus far, I honestly believe that he no longer deserves any support from the left, or anyone of good conscience. From the strengthening of the Patriot act, to the kowtowing to Goldman Sachs, to extending the Bush tax cuts, he has behaved like a Republican stooge. I find it hard to believe or accept that these things would not provoke anger and a sense of betrayal in progressives like yourself. And I believe that some of us are only observing what is going on around us, politically, very casually. Hence, the "get your head out of your ass" and "rose colored glasses" comments.

So if you still support Hopey, that's your right. But progressives don't have to so gladly support this kind of failure.

And yes, Pelosi / Mittens is clearly better than Boehner / Hopey.

pdiddycornchips August 2, 2011 at 7:43 pm

What's the difference? Other than Dems wouldn't have to share the blame for the eventual negative outcomes?

Negropolis August 3, 2011 at 1:19 am

Good god, man. Who won't you vote for? You've got an excuse for every fucking thing. You'd defend Nazis if you thought you could get away with it.

Chet Kincaid August 2, 2011 at 7:47 pm

Where do you get this fantasy that if the American people vote for Mittens they will automatically also "vote for Pelosi?" It is nonsensical. People don't go into the booth and declare that they will vote for their Senator or their Representative deliberately to balance their choice for President. My objective opinion, sorry, is that your whole Mittens/Dem Congress thing isn't even a good speculative-fiction comment-thread timewaster.

DarwinianDemon August 2, 2011 at 8:02 pm

What makes you believe that people who vote against Dems will magically vote for Dems for congress? What do you have to back up that assumption.

Pass. I'll try for a Dem congress and a Dem president doing things like ending DADT and protecting SS.

pdiddycornchips August 2, 2011 at 7:48 pm

I thought we elected a leader, not a clerk. counting votes is nice, leading the party in the direction you want them to go, even better

Chet Kincaid August 2, 2011 at 7:59 pm

You can't even read what I just wrote, can you? Jesus.

pdiddycornchips August 2, 2011 at 8:03 pm

Obama could try leading. He could force a showdown on the Bush tax cuts for instance. What do you want to bet he doesn't.

It comes down to this, do you support liberal/progressive policies or do you support the President. It's increasingly clear you can't do both.

pdiddycornchips August 2, 2011 at 8:05 pm

That's the winner in this thread.

KenLayIsAlive August 2, 2011 at 9:20 pm

I was born with a good Italian rage machine. And it is getting frothy over here.

I do respect your outlook and I'm glad people can still see through to defend Obama, because we did, after all, elect him and should stand behind him, but come on.

How can you not be disappointed Chet? I mean, at what point do you say "this shit is really getting bad." We were riding high and now look at us. Who do you blame for this outcome? When big business GOP repeatedly wins these victories (tea party won't ever win shit of course, they are just the pathetic disgusting pawns) are you just going to blame people for not sticking with Obama enough, or are you going to blame him for not leading the fight against them?

mourningnmerica August 2, 2011 at 8:27 pm

Chet, I don't know what fantasy you are talking about. I think that it is fairly likely, not automatic, that if Mittens becomes President, he will do so with a Democratic House. I see a Republican President and Republican House as very unlikely. In most years, in recent history, there have been opposing parties in power,. 10 of the last 15 House terms have had one party in the Whitehouse and the other in the House. It has been suggested that the American public felt safer with one party not able to control everything. I don't know if that is true or not. But if Mittens is elected, and in view of the shit the Republicans have pushed through, I think it is very likely Dems take the House in 2012. Not a fantasy, I;m not sure it will happen and I never said that it was a certainty. Capiche?

For hopefully the final time, I believe we are better off with Romney / Pelosi than this Boehner / Obama pairing, if that happens.

If you want to critique, please critique what I have said, not a misunderstanding of it.

Chet Kincaid August 2, 2011 at 8:28 pm

I prayed to Hopey and He sent me that line!!

Chet Kincaid August 2, 2011 at 8:45 pm

I don't think it's as simple as just looking at the last 15 house terms and making a prediction. Since the 1960s, we've seen a gigantic realignment of what it means to be a Democrat or a Republican. As you should well know, today's Southern (and in some cases, Northern) Republican is last century's Southern Democrat. You can't look at the composition of the Congress without looking at those major historical shifts. There are also factors involving personality and the advantage of incumbency that are a lot more important for Congressional races than "I'm gonna vote for this guy because I don't trust the other guy I went ahead and voted for anyway." I mean come on, have you ever met anyone who actually said they voted that way?

But sure, OK, I will concede that you believe your Romney/Pelosi "Dream Government" would be heaven on earth.

pdiddycornchips August 2, 2011 at 8:47 pm

my "agenda"? Oh yeah, I forgot. Disagreement=deranged right?

pdiddycornchips August 2, 2011 at 8:58 pm

Sir, no offense but maybe you need a little history lesson. Obama was elected with large Democratic majorities in both houses. What did we get? Bush tax cut extensions, a HCR bill that includes no public option and an individual mandate (the very things Obama said made his plan superior to Hilz). An expansion of domestic spying, a continuation of the Bush policies on everything from Gitmo to the Fed. Electing Democrats to Congress is no substitute for presidential leadership.

mourningnmerica August 2, 2011 at 8:58 pm

Dimwit, OK, don't deal with the substance of what I said. That last sentence of yours. Why do you have to argue like such a little bitch? You have to make stuff up to argue your side?

I tried to make what I thought was a reasoned point about Obama's weakness hurting the country. I took a good deal of space trying to justify what had brought me to this conclusion. Then look at you. Dream Government. Jesus.

TheSheriffsNear August 2, 2011 at 9:57 pm

See! He can make shit happen! Okay, I'm back on board. Until I feel cranky and decide to project my own feelings of powerlessness onto him again.

imissopus August 3, 2011 at 12:40 am

Well, the media loves to flog the "Has Obama lost the left" meme. Gives 'em a "Can he be the comeback kid" storyline to write for the next fifteen months.

Plus our politics have become so much about immediate victory that people only see it in terms of what "we" won and "they" lost, or vice versa. So they hear "Medicare cuts" or "no tax increases" and start screaming. It happened after the budget deal a few months ago, then a few days after it was signed we found out the cuts the Repubs had been touting were bullshit, that Obama had basically rolled Boehner. Which is why I don't understand why people are so ready – almost anxious – to reach for the pitchforks and torches. Give it a few days for people to pore over the details and then see how this deal looks.

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