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Boehner Proudly Passes His Dumb Bill, Senate Immediately Suffocates It

Trust No OneWhat’s happening in the exciting/awful dullsville of dismantling America? Well, jaundiced boozebag John Boehner did just what his bosses told him — he even coordinated the extremist-corporate bill’s passage with the publication of some jackass propaganda posted under his byline at the National Review Online. But it didn’t matter, because the Senate immediately tabled the House bill on a 59-41 vote. And now … eh, who knows? Mud wrestling? In any case, America is doomed.

The NYT Caucus blog just posted this:

The United States Senate quickly dispatched the debt ceiling bill passed by the House Friday evening, tabling the Republican bill indefinitely and moving quickly to start consideration of a Democratic plan that would avoid default on Tuesday.

Less than two hours after House Speaker John A. Boehner pushed his bill through the House over the strenuous objections of nearly two dozen of his own Republican members, the Democratic leadership in the Senate followed through on their promise to kill his legislation.

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This means another weekend of Crisis & Stage Tears, while Americans generally ignore this and hope it goes away. Oh, and the Dow Jones index had its worse week in a year, with a 4.2% plunge since Monday. Apparently things are getting a lot worse, very quickly! So, might as well buy three bottles of whatever tonight (catchup?), because it might get uglier before Monday. [NYT]

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      1. PristineODummy

        Republicans don't care about Christian Soldier babbyz! They only care about Christian Soldier fetii!

  1. mormos

    I heard on NPR today that even if debt reducing legislation is passed by Tuesday we may still have our credit rating reduced because, no shit, we don't have a competent enough government to back it up.

    Other countries have been watching congress squabble like idiots and have decided we are a bunch of dumb jackasses. I can't really blame them.

    China in particular is beginning to be scared shitless.

    1. Sharkey

      Obama: "We don't have a triple-A political system" to match our AAA credit.

      I tend to think it's the people holding office right now rather than the system itself. (Though I abhor the fact that third party viability seems impossible.)

      Therefore and heretofor and whatnot, Obama hates the American political system. Typical socialist.

          1. OneDollarJuana

            The settlement of the NFL lockout is bad news for the country. What we need is less sports, not more. We need bored people actually paying attention to the news for five minutes, long enough to realize they've been had. Long enough to get mad and take to the streets. We NEED selfish millionaires fighting over kids' games.

          2. AJWjr.

            Agreed. I gave up on NFL during the '87 strike, and MLB in '94, hadn't watched a single baseball game until last season's World Series because come ON, Giants. For the most part, they've priced me out of the circuses part of the bread and circuses metaphor, so all that's left is paying attention to DC politics, and rooting for the lions.

        1. starfanglednut

          And the cookies. Don't forget the cookies. And back in the day, some meetings had baloney sandwiches on wonderbread with yellow mustard. Beats drinkin' any day!

          1. not that Dewey

            Last week I brought some banana bread that my wife made. Man, those old drunks love banana bread!

          2. Radiotherapy®

            Obstinate teabagger politics aside, How you dewing Dewey? I'm down with snark and compassion. It's not far from humor and reasoning.

          3. not that Dewey

            I'm doing well, thanks for asking. In four short weeks, I have lost 15 lbs (I got rid of all those whiskey calories, but I fear I am making up for it with ice cream calories!), my blood pressure and cholesterol are back to normal, the insomia is mostly gone, my wife doesn't hate me so much any more, and I no longer watch the clock while I'm spending time with my daughter.

            Friday evenings are still the worst, craving-wise. It's hard to get home from work and not want to laze around with a NYTimes crossword and half a fifth (a tenth?) of Red Label. But the feeling passes, I make dinner, spend time with the family, watch some Netflix and read a book instead. I've also had way more time on my hands, and a compulsion to remain busy, so I've gotten all kinds of shit done around the house.

            That's probably way more than you wanted to hear. And it's getting increasingly difficult to put obstinate teabagger politics aside.

            Cheers!

          4. Bonzos_Bed_Time

            Go ride a bike! Fer realz, probably the best way to deal with addictions. Other than taking up smoking that is.

            If I'm representing it half way correctly, has something to do with the brain's perceived cycling as dangerous. So your brain kinda' half way thinks you're going to die, so it really focuses on the cycling. Results in a calming/meditative effect. Addictions, ADHD, some personality disorders all benefit from it.

            Or I could just be making this up. Either way, go hop on a bike!

          5. not that Dewey

            I have been biking, but probably not nearly as much as I should. Thanks for the tip. Every little bit helps.

            As far as smoking goes, that was my first (and hopefully last) addiction. One of the veterans in my group said "whatever you do, DO NOT TRY TO QUIT SMOKING RIGHT NOW!"

          6. Lascauxcaveman

            LOL, I may not be a bona fied alcoholic (I quit drinking for eight or ten days last spring and never had a craving) but given your conversation, I can't help but point out here how very much fun it is to get smashed and ride your bicycle really fast, at night. I've got some hills that make for insanely fast descents around here.

            I will very likely die from thrill-seeking long before liver disease claims me.

          7. Bonzos_Bed_Time

            Drink, bike, fast, night. For me, it's pick any three of the above! I don't think I could manage the fourth.

          8. Doktor Zoom

            That brings new meaning to the old joke:

            How many kids with ADHD does it take to change a lightbulb?

            Hey, let's ride bikes!

          9. mumbly_joe

            For me, it's always been the damndest thing. I know I have a personality that leaves me prone to addiction, and know there's a history of addiction on both sides of my family (joking here aside, I'm very careful for that reason about drinking and very self-concious about how it impacts my personality, lest it progress to becoming A Problem. I refuse to gamble, for the same reason- I've seen it be a problem for other family members, I can empathize with the appeal it has to them, and that scares me), but smoking has never done a damn thing for me. Like, at all.

            I mean, it's pleasurable enough, and I do carry a pack of cigs when I go out (mostly just as a potential excuse to chat up a lady outside the bar if we hit it off), but I it takes me an average of 3 months to go through a pack, and I've just as easily gone twice that long without so much as thinking about it. Not really sure what's up with that, must just be unusually resilient in that one way.

          10. mayor_quimby

            Scientists need to isolate your anti addiction gene and sell that shit, it would put cialis sales to shame!
            I always have to ride it out before I change, went from 2 cigars a day for about 5 yrs to 2 total since O's nomination day, donated all my cigar money to the campaign. Only smoked on election nightandi auguration day.

          11. PristineODummy

            I just quit this year, and that guy totally knows what he is talking about. Previously, for nigh on four decades, I always sabotaged my quitting efforts by trying to quit EVERYTHING simultaneously, which simply turned me into a murderous mess. I'm not quitting booze till I'm well and truly over the cigs, which, at 7 months, it looks good.

          12. Radiotherapy®

            D.
            You're inspirational, if humble. In the complex existence of our lives, if I could wait until a "feeling passes," I would be a much better person. Sober, or otherwise, obstinate teabagger politics are like an open bar at an AA meeting.

          13. user-of-owls

            For what it's worth, I am proud of you amigo. I am also using you as a role model: D-Day is this coming Monday. Send a smidge of your strength to me. I'm scared.

          14. not that Dewey

            If we can find a discreet way to exchange phone #s or email, I'm happy to do it (unless that violates some arcane Wonket rule). I want you to succeed. I don't want you to be scared — fear may allow you to make excuses and doom you in advance.

            There's that chatango thing, we could probably sneak over there.

          15. user-of-owls

            I've been thinking along the same lines. Let's see what Monday brings. Words don't express both my deepest gratitude for reaching out and my joy for your ongoing success. Promise I'll let you know right away if trouble lurks.

          16. Barb

            User, if you want to exchange email with someone then turn on your notifications for "if someone replies to you…" and then go to an old comment that no one is trolling and leave a message to a person you wish to communicate with. Reply to one of their old messages. They will get an email notice of your message, if they do the same with their notifications. They will reply and you can delete the comment once you've made contact.

          17. SarcasticNymph

            Mr Owls, you once explained which Mesoamerican god was a user-of-owls but I can't find the reference. Being a religion nerd – can you retell the myth?

          18. not that Dewey

            Don't get me wrong — I'm grateful, too. It sounds like a good idea. But…

            Anyone who is following us will see the message show up on their "dashboard" (recent comments from people I'm following). Now, granted in my case that's not very many people, and for 13/14ths of them I wouldn't even mind if they saw embarrassing pictures of my belly button. But there's that pesky matter of Stinky2b. A security vulnerability, as it were.

          19. SarcasticNymph

            Ms Barb – how are your daughters the RNs doing? I just got my MS in nurse midwifery and passed boards and have a CA state license!

          20. FlownOver

            Owls:

            It can be done. I went from 80-proof to zero a couple of decades back, just to prove my hostility had nothing to do with my intake.

          21. user-of-owls

            Thank you immensely, Flown…tears of gratitude right now, in fact. Don't care about your gender or inclinations, I'm sending a huge hug.

          22. donner_froh

            Both of you–Dewey and owls–a bunch of nuns who you don't know are praying for you success. I don't believe in god (God) as such, at least the Christian/Jewish/Muslim version but for some reason I believe that concentrated prayer (or something like it) from a dedicated group can be effective.

            I realize it doesn't make much sense but it can't hurt.

          23. not that Dewey

            The support that I've gotten from the Wonketariat has played a HUGE part in my success so far. Like Owls, I have mentioned this to my therapist, and she's really impressed that there's this giant reserve of kindness and humanity on the big bad internet. I really hope that we can pull Owls through his darkness, too.

            Who'd have thought that a website full of elitist commie vulgarians would be the place where people can turn for help like this? Truly amazing. Thank you. And thank the nuns.

          24. PristineODummy

            You're quitting smoking? Or what?

            Best wishes, whichever or whatever it is. Just remember to have your network of friends set up so you can call/email/visit and kvetch when you need. It really helps. And I offer whatever help you can possibly derive or need from me.

          25. tessiee

            Drink a LOT of water. It was surprisingly helpful when I quit smoking.

            Also, I have a tiny "We Can Do It!" Rosie the Riveter fridge magnet that I looked at every day (sometimes many times a day) when I was going through the worst of the nicotine cravings. You're becoming a stronger person. Good for you for having the strength not to let your habits control you. You should feel proud of yourself. You can do it.

          26. not that Dewey

            Yes, please upload your refrigerator magnet, and some pizza.

            I got some Rosie the Riveter crime-scene tape from Archie McPhee that I use only for special occasions.

            I'm drinking so much water that I'm barely hungry anymore. Of course, I live in the desert, so I'm constantly dehydrated anyway. I've reintroduced ginger ale into my diet, including some of those "fancy" ginger ales. Teapocalypse is near, so I may as well waste my money on something.

          27. Hurricane Ali

            Man, I love me some ginger beer, because it has more bite than ginger ale – we bought some Boylens Ginger Ale for our cookout today, because we had people over who don't drink (I wasn't drinking because I had to grill). It is mighty tasty, though.

          28. not that Dewey

            I'll have to try the Boylen's, if I can find it. My small-town store doesn't have much, but they stock Hansen's Cane Soda ginger ale — super creamy! Next time I'm in the big city, I'll stop by one of the microbreweries that do their own ginger ale. mmmmmm….

          29. Hurricane Ali

            LOL, don't be all up in my grill – I ain't a dude and it's 100 degrees in my backyard! I get all woozy and start burning stuff if I drink too much while grilling!

          30. not that Dewey

            [sigh] … I'm gonna miss that. Whiskey and ribeyes were a mainstay for me. And yes, I burned many things 'cause I was concentrating too much on the whiskey and not enough on the grilling. The worst was when friends were over, we spent an hour on some fabulous meal, only to discover that we waited about 15 minutes too long to go check on it while we had another drink. D'oh! Guess we'd better order some pizza!

            And sorry about the gender thing. Lazy use of language, dontcha know.

          31. Hurricane Ali

            No way, you're the bomb, D. I'm older and remembered all the times I've ruined food on the grill because I was chatting and drinking with friends instead of watching the grill. I'm actually kind of proud of myself for not drinking during the thing because people brought so much beer!

            You are my inspiration when I finally stop drinking!

          32. WABishop

            Also, drinking a soft drink the same way I drink an alcoholic drink works for me. Put a small amount of Coke (like a quarter of a can) in an old-fashioned glass with some ice and drink it in sips over the course of an hour. Repeat as needed.

          33. comrad_darkness

            Honestly tastes better too the next morning when your mouth is all dry.

            I'm not at your level (on one side of this or the other) but I've been finally tackling some personal intellectually heavy projects I left rotting for five years and I'm amazed how getting even two drinks a day out of my life has transformed how much stuff I get done. I'm like a new man. Whenever I think, eh, something with dinner would be nice the demon-angel hybrid jackal creature on my back says: yeah, want to trash the rest of the evening? Go ahead, butthead.

            Anyway, long way of saying: More power to ya, Dewey.

          34. not that Dewey

            I hear ya, on the productivity thing. It's the great demotivator. I hadn't undertaken any large-scale projects, outside of work or grad school, in years. And even then, my attention span was for shit. I've read more in the last month than I had in the previous 4 years.

            I just spent 3 hours making manicotti AND I WANT SOME FUCKING WINE. But 1 glass ==> 1 gallon. There is no in-between. There used to be.

            : (

          35. OneDollarJuana

            You can tear the crust off Wonderbread and roll it into a little ball. A little ball of dough which for some reason was never white, always grey, probably because it cleaned the dirt off my palms.

            I ate it anyway.

      1. Guppy06

        "I tend to think it's the people holding office right now rather than the system itself. (Though I abhor the fact that third party viability seems impossible.)"

        Single member districts, pluraility voting, closed primaries.

        Yeah, I can see the system being a problem. Needz moar IRV.

      2. flamingpdog

        If we don't have AAA credit anymore, does that mean I won't be able to get my car towed for free the next time it breaks down?

        1. bflrtsplk

          AAA used to tow my car home for free when I was drunk. Then, for some reason, they stopped doing it. That was the signal for me that it was time to stop drinking. Quit for three years.

    2. comrad_darkness

      China should be scared shitless because someone crossed Bernie Madoff with Ken Lay and put the resulting army of monsters in charge of Chinese local government money via special financing vehicles. Worrying about us is a bourgeoise luxury I'm surprised they have time for.

      1. zhubajie

        Quite true. As a student told me once, there are 800 million farmers in China and they are all angry. One big reason is that local governments and local contractors steal the farmland to build luxury apartment buildings that almost no one can afford. Govt. and contractors profit via embezzling loan money, but no one else does.

        1. OneDollarJuana

          When the Soviet Union fell, the oligarchs took over and made (are making) billions. Looks like the Chinese are doing the same with their own particular flair.

          1. comrad_darkness

            The Soviet Union is an excellent parallel with current China, and a nice shorthand to shut up some idiot at a party who says China is going to over take us. Yeah, with their crazy per capita GDP of $4000. I'm shaking in my boots here.

    3. Poindexter718

      Oh we are so burning China with our defaulting on their bonds! Dumb, dumb Chinese, financing our trade deficit and reserving our Yankee dollars.
      And the truly funny thing is that I'm sure they will show up at the next Treasury auction because they are so dumb and so tripped out on MSG and ground up rhino horns and Chinese tea (which isn't even tea at all because its green, and not even a party).

      1. tessiee

        "Chinese tea (which isn't even tea at all because its green, and not even a party)"

        Does this mean that China has both a Green Party AND a Tea Party? And what do their teabaggers dress up as?

    4. Dudleydidwrong

      A scared shitless China means that it is time for those with real 'Murrican money to buy stock in Ex-Lax, Dulcolax and all the other violent emetics. At that point China will be worried more about itself and America can just sneak away to some desert island where Boehner can continue adding to his orange hue and the rest of us can pound sand.

    5. Radiotherapy®

      Spitzer was on Maher tonight and he recently asked Dick Army what cuts he would actually make and, of course, he said NPR.
      There it is…no taxes on the job creators and cut PP, NPR and the NLRB and voilá, just like the year 1999.

    6. stew1

      Barry just needs to go Caesar on their ass and assume complete control of the government and let the 'baggers return to their basements with their Laura Ingraham posters (ick!).

      1. Doktor Zoom

        Oh, hurrah, we have a Breitbart troll in the thread. Started watching the vid & counting the lies–my bullshit detector went off at the title, which conflates Social Security and "welfare," and went into the red zone when the housing was described as a free ride for illegal immigrants. Only took a moment to find an article debunking of your bullshit:

        (That's a brief look; a more thorough debunking is here)

        You might want to find more reliable sources than a guy who claims that Jesuit priests "are here as the hitmen of the Catholic church. If you oppose them they will kill you. They claim to have torched off the atomic bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki" (from the second link).

        1. mumbly_joe

          Ah, thank you good Doktor, for doing a far more thorough debunking than I really had the interest for, once I got to the first reference of "social security funds for foreigners". Yeah, that's not how anything works, at all.

          The way I see it, though, there's two major levels of lies and insanity to that thing- there's the lies an insanity vis a vis the actual facts, and then the lies and insanity with regards to the premise- mixed-funding public housing is sort of reallyfuckinggreat for the economy, (especially when targeted in ways that give us good economic stimulus and thus more future tax revenue- for the dollar). which is a thing I thought we were supposed to be caring about for some reason.

          Still, Bobsalem inadvertently makes a very good point- with the absence of a downfist option for idiots like him any more, we really have to be more diligent about upfisting the good stuff. We can't have intelligent people with actual good points getting stuck in the trollslum like that, especially if someone mistakenly upfists a moron as someone seems to have done above.

          1. Doktor Zoom

            especially if someone mistakenly upfists a moron as someone seems to have done above.

            [Bob Newhart voice] Uhhh…that….that would be me.[/Bob Newhart voice]

        2. Geminisunmars

          Thanks for the alert before I clicked on the thingy. I don't miss the downfist, but it would be nice to be able to highlight suspect comments in, say piss yellow, so we could be warned. And thanks for the summary, although trying to talk to that (those?) trollie is like taking french to a cow.

          1. RavenRant

            Not a huge fan of Barney Frank in general, but I was that day. Didn't he also ask her, "What color is the sky in your world?"

        3. PristineODummy

          Exactly. Low-income housing has NEVER come out of Social Security funding. NEVER. I worked on low-income housing and poverty issues for years, and my bullshit detector ain't totally broken yet. Whoever that guy is, he's lying, and he's spreading lies. Cost of the "new" cars he's yawping about? 2011 models brand new off the lot under $25K. So his "$40-$50K" whine is just flat outright lies.

      2. mumbly_joe

        Well, I suppose it's only natural for the American people to elect the people who best represent them, if the narrator there is any indication

        "…welfare social security housing for foreigners"
        Umm, yeah.
        YAWN

        And even assuming that video isn't entirely nothing but insane lies (which it almost certainly is), $225 million is something like one hundredth of one percent of the national budget defect. Clearly we can close the budget gap by evicting a whole bunch of senior citizens or disableds who are somehow also foreigners even though they're collecting social security, as long as the rest of our budget strategy is to use MAGIC TO CREATE MORE MONEY.

        And if you mute the video, suddenly it's a video about how the government actually can help shore up the weak economy while mitigating poverty and homelesss, by pouring money into the economy in the form of high-quality affordable housing, who'd have thought. Even that wingnut narrator admits that they're extremely well-constructed homes, and he's just mad that "the wrong people" get to live in them.

        I suddenly miss having a downfist option.

        1. PristineODummy

          Here's an interesting thing: Singapore in the 1950s was subject to yearly epidemics of malaria, typhoid, cholera, smallpox, and the like. Most of the population lived in houses made of zinc and attap, or poorly-constructed deathtraps (still seen in Chinatown today, but no longer the housing of the masses). The Singapore government built model housing estates for the people, very similar to what is shown in that video. All those areas have hospitals/clinics, administrative/maintenance offices, community centers, government-subsidized, Trades Union-funded stores that sell basic supplies (foodstuffs, cleaning supplies, etc.) at fixed prices, and government-subsidized produce/grocery markets and foodstalls. Why is this bad or wrong? Singapore made the transition from a poor third-world nation to a very wealthy nation based on this sort of support for the working poor. That video looks like what model housing for the working poor should be. I guess the idiots who are disseminating this propaganda are trying to stir up nativist sentiment by arguing that "foreigners" are getting something nice that the local yokels are not? I'm not getting this at all.

          1. mumbly_joe

            It's funny, because the more cogent and literate sorts of wingnuts love to prop up Singapore as their example of Free Market Principles At Work™.

            Uhh, yeah, sure, as long as you ignore the fact that Singapore has universal health care that's only made possible due to government-imposed price controls and compulsory saving (which is essentially an identity with taxes), just for example.

            Truth be told, I've always suspected that at least a bit of the gushing over Singapore is really deferred admiration for their other, highly authoritarian elements, like the justice system which has no trial by jury, little presumption of innocence, and makes heavy use of capital and corporal punishment for a wide range of crimes. Oh, yeah, and that there's been one-party rule for the past 50 years and the government heavily restricts opposition speech and press.

          2. PristineODummy

            I'm not an authoritarian and I'm not disputing the political truths. What I'm wondering is, why is it a point of contention that the poor deserve decent housing? Singaporeans pay a 15% tax rate on the first 60-120K of income. Housing is subsidised. The poor and working classes are treated as a vital and valuable part of society. Why does this little video clip imply that somehow the poor and working classes are not entitled to decent housing? Is this the general sentiment?

          3. mumbly_joe

            Oh, certainly- I hardly meant to imply that there's nothing worth recognizing about the country. Rather, I meant that its depiction as a "free market paradise" is sufficiently at-odds with reality that I generally suspect admirers who employ that narrative of being attracted by something else entirely.

            As far as that video, though, though, years of racial and xenophobic wedge politics have basically engrained a reflexive response of Other People Getting Stuff that I Deserve to basically every program aimed at making sure the poor and working class don't go hungry or homeless. The fact that people like this guy end up vehemently arguing against their own interests, lest Other People get a few scraps too, would be sad, if they weren't such assholes.

      3. glamourdammerung

        BobSalem, I am **still** waiting on that unedited "ACORN sting video" that you claimed Breitbart released yet is nowhere to be found despite your claims it was "everywhere".

      4. Negropolis

        I'll say it again and again, but this is the reason why I'll continue to rue the abolition of the downfist. We should be able to express both approval and disapproval or neither.

      5. __kth__

        posting something really stupid and getting the other guys in your daily circle jerk to upfist it, is the new downfisting I suppose.

    7. zhubajie

      The Chinese government is probably more worried about a peasant revolt bringing *real* commies back to power.

      1. comrad_darkness

        How do you say "Amen" in Cantonese. Or Mandarin. I'm not picky. Or even one of those obscure dialects of the Steppes.

        1. PristineODummy

          There is no concept of "Amen" in any Chinese dialect, but to express approbation, you would say "Hao le," or "Hao ji le," which translates to "Good." (Mandarin; Same in Fujianese or Cantonese dialects.)

    8. PristineODummy

      China has repeatedly issued warnings to our Congresscritters to shape the fuck up. They haven't been heard. The next step is to make us all hurt, in the hope that we'll kick these miserable motherfuckers out and let the grownups get back to business. And it is going to hurt.

        1. gullywompr

          OK, it took me two days, but I get it now…

          At least I think so – are you referring to the infamous mudshark episode perpetrated by the manager of LZ and enshined in song forever by FZ?

          1. flamingpdog

            Sure you can – you just need a good medium. I know one that's short and skinny and just broke out of jail. The headline in the WaPo was "Small Medium at Large".

          2. zhubajie

            Probably he's at least as reliable as the average opinion pollster or economic forecaster.

        1. flamingpdog

          Mebbe once Bachmann starts dropping in the polls, she'll deem it necessary to get in the mud pit with Sarah. I have the poop corn concession cornered.

  2. memzilla

    I want these Rethuglicans to be held fully accountable for this ruinous travesty of a parody of a sham of a joke of a pretense of responsible government.

    1. Dudleydidwrong

      You know damn well Hopie will be blamed for all of this. He always does everything wrong. I heard that somewhere on some TV program at the barber shop. (Question: why the fuck do all barber shops have a TV permanently tuned to Fux Snooze?)

      1. fuflans

        and hotel lobbies and waiting rooms in hospitals.

        whenever i am faced with these, i ostentatiously march up to the TV and change it to the most liberal thing i can find.

        then curl up with a kittenish pout daring anyone to change it.

        1. PristineODummy

          Being a rude, mean, old fart, I just go up and pick a quarrel with the poor counterperson till they change it. And, being a *manipulative* rotten mean sneaky old fart, I pretend-sympathize with their having to put up with an asshole like their boss who insists on keeping it on that goddamn channel. If they won't change the channel, I leave and tell them I'm taking my business elsewhere. I used to be "nice" and put up with it, but I won't anymore. That's my pledge to myself. I'll go to my grave happy if it fucking kills me. And watching Pox Ooze does NOT make me happy.

    2. zhubajie

      They will persuade the usual 1/3 of Americans that it's the fault of gays, coloreds, liberals, non-Christians….

  3. emmelemm

    BLINGEE!!

    Frabjous day! Just what I needed for a Friday. (Sorry, can't manage anything more coherent on a Friday afternoon.)

    1. MissusBarry

      Damn it, that was all I had for this one, too. Needz moar Bieber. Ok, that last part may not be intended as a factual statement.

  4. comrad_darkness

    What does it say that in order to get serious, congress has to get much more childish.

    1. tessiee

      This situation calls for a completely futile and stupid gesture — and they're just the guys to do it.

  5. cheetojeebus

    It was a stroke of genius to politicize the debt limit vote while most of the USA is hanging on by their fucking fingernails and the stagnant economy has a permanent case of the jitters. Fucking genius.
    Gawd, I hate these fuckers.

    1. LetUsBray

      Yeah. I also hate the morons who will have completely forgotten about this by next election and will return all the dipshits to office, Probably plus an additional batch of teabagging bastards.

    2. Nixon_So_Fine

      I have no measurable income ("work" for a non-profit/"work" as a self-employed coder/"work" as a slave tot all this)…Mom and Dad are the guys who make sure I still get fed.

      When Mom and Dad go, which will happen soon, I have no idea what'll happen.

      I'm so fucked.

      1. Geminisunmars

        Well, you could run for office. But I don't want to depress you further.

        Seriously, hope things work out for you.

  6. DaSandman

    And the Weeping Tangerine retreats to his grand office to weep bitter bitter Teabags tears.

    LOL Fuck you, you orange moron. You started and supported this shit. I hope it hurts. Like a rectal exam from Godzilla.

    1. Rotundo_

      Oh come now, the most Johnny will do is go off to play golf and then when some smartass in the group says "CANTOR!" as he is about to tee off will wrap a wood around their head. Johnny may even lose his seat in the coming election, but he'll be lobbying in no time and raking in even more yummy cash for cigs, booze and a new set of clubs.

    1. Nothingisamiss

      If we don't raise the debt ceiling and cut all corporate taxes there will be lots of jerbs! Right?

  7. FakaktaSouth

    Who voted how in the Senate – as there were obvs Rs that voted with the Ds, yes? Are these Rs that want to raise the debt ceiling or is this a meta-wrap around "I hate Barack Obama so much that I am voting against Mitch McConnell" teatardtactic? This is what all I am trying to figure out. And what did they vote for, or against? And for how much? I don't fucking know anymore.
    I do know (math!) that these fuckers collectively make more than 90 million dollars a year – how come 174K is what they think a normal standard of living is?

    1. OneYieldRegular

      And on top of pulling in that kind of salary, they don't do their jobs. If anyone ever needed an answer as to how this debacle has come about, the sheer incompetence of House Republicans this week should provide a pretty damn good clue.

      1. FakaktaSouth

        You are absolutely right. I should have said, that's a heck of a salary for people to do their jobs so poorly that they negatively (and sometimes horribly and irrevocably) impact the lives of millions of Americans every single day.

    2. fuflans

      who are the baggers in the senate besides rand? i mean i guess jim demint, but he was always just a conservative asshole and carpet bagged on a movement.

      (this is not snark).

      1. FakaktaSouth

        Republican Sens. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.), Rand Paul (R-Ky.) Mike Lee (R-Utah), David Vitter (R-La.), Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) and Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) According to the rather shitty "beldarblog" – "Not one of these GOP senators was part of a "bipartisan majority" who agreed with Harry Reid and the Dems on anything of substance. Rather, these are the six senators who were to the right of Boehner, the House majority, and every other Republican in the Senate."
        The guy on the site I got this from goes on and on then about what a liar Harry Reid is for calling this bipartisan, which again, ANY self awareness here dudes??
        According to HP, "They argued that Boehner’s bill didn’t go far enough in cutting spending now and were not swayed by the addition of a requirement that Congress approve a balanced budget before the government could borrow any new money in 2012."
        Ignorant. Assholes.

        1. fuflans

          yeah, i feel like i'm down the rabbit hole everytime a repub speaks – the last three days have been 100% democratic text spouted by the likes of eric cantor and mcturtles and orange julius.

          weird.

          also, belderblog, pretty sure lindsey is not a bagger – at least not in the way you think.

          1. FakaktaSouth

            It is very confusing. I thought the Lindzz was besties with McCain, and we know what he thought (for 4 minutes yesterday) about them baggin all over everybody, but who freaking knows how these people think?
            Maybe now we're all getting a mouthful of Rep Louie Gohmert's balls for the Pres' birthday?
            I don't know.

          2. Rotundo_

            Lindsay is no doubt scared shitless about the teatards-and justifiably so. Orrin was a bit of a surprise as well. The rest of them are nutter/grifter/rising republican stars.

          3. FakaktaSouth

            I know the baggery goes on in the south, but honestly – LG surprises me. It seems to me that the MAJORITY of the active repub-type-people around here in big Dick Shelby-ville, and I would guess in GrahamCracker's SC district, are still of the "I'm a rich, white, frat guy wannabe" Republican mold (even the womens) and less of the raging lunatic teabag variety – Mo whatshisname nothwithstanding. (also, ReEEEeally not jacked up about weirdo flip flopper Mormon Romney. Mormons are "other.") They are STILL more W and less Palin – which may seem like ignorance without a distinction, but there is a class thing there. And the people I'm talking about don't all have "real money" by ANY means, it's the ASSOCIATion. (same with going to church) You know? Here, with the people who play the game, a lot of it is not really what (if) you think, but how what you say you are makes you "look" (ie, "better than") and even from down here a lot of the bags look undignified – and not real up on even how repubs do stuff. The people here know VERY little "specifically" about their own politics, it's what "feels right" AND the Jesus divide is fun between conservative Christians and teabaggers and "old school " repubs. I'm a hater all the way around though, so it is interesting as hell to watch these worlds collide…too bad it's also destroying the country.

        2. emmelemm

          I thought Shelly (Bachmann) was the official "I started the Tea Party Caucus in the House so I'm special" lady. (In other words, isn't she also a "bagger"?)

          ETA: Never mind, you're talking about the Senate.

        3. trampndirtdown

          Look I really don't mind Demint, Paul, and Lee so much they are proffesed morons and proud of it ,but
          Lindsey and Orrin are just looking to butch up their reputation.

      2. Negropolis

        The Tea Party caucus of the Senate is very small. It consists of Mike Lee of Utah, Rand Paul of Kentucky, Jim DeMint of South Carolina, and some dude named Jerry Moran out of Kansas. Of those four, the first three voted against this. I don't really know much about Moran, but perhaps he's a bit less principled. Who knows? I know very little about the senators of the Plains.

        In the House, 60 representatives are a part of the Tea Party caucus.

        BTW, Michele Bachmann likes to crow about being the founder of the Tea Party caucus in the Congress, but the actual idea of it began with Rand Paul when he was campaigning for his Senate seat.

  8. Callyson

    Less than two hours after House Speaker John A. Boehner pushed his bill through the House over the strenuous objections of nearly two dozen of his own Republican members, the Democratic leadership in the Senate followed through on their promise to kill his legislation.
    Osama (by special forces and Obama's courage to go for it), Boneheader's bill (by showing it the table)…the Dems are getting pretty good at killing things. Now, how about the Dems kill the hopeless quest for bipartisanship and stand up against the Teabaggers' crap (by the 14th Amendment)…

    1. AJWjr.

      Well, one of the dissenting votes was from our new friend and deadbeat dad Joe Walsh. I do not know what this means.

  9. JoshuaNorton

    House Speaker John A. Boehner pushed his bill through the House

    He then went home and tried to drunk-dial Ron Weasley

    1. flamingpdog

      It'll prepare him for his next job – going door-to-door, pushing Oreck vacuum cleaners through houses.

  10. ShaveTheWhales

    It's probably the wine, but I'm actually starting to think that Hopey will have swoop in and stick an executive stake in this debt-ceiling bullshit. It's getting close to the point where even he won't be able to find a way to compromise it away.

    And then, Boner, PLEEEEZ start impeachment proceedings. Oh please oh please oh please. This could vault you to the top of the Beyond Epic Failing Murkin Politicians.

      1. ShaveTheWhales

        Sadly true, but the wine is still telling me the window for compromise is closing fast.

      2. Nothingisamiss

        +2. I just can't believe my beloved (yes!) Hopey will stand any straighter on this than on anything else he comprimised away. And the dems? I'm pinning my hopes on Harry Reid? You know you're hopeless when…..

    1. Negropolis

      I'm getting that feeling, too, and actually, it's what I've wanted him to do all along. A little shock-and-awe, if you will. He really shouldn't have waited this long, honestly. I mean, the GOP already calls the guy everything short of a socialist dictator to his face, so why not just play the role you've been given?

      Dare the fuckers to impeach him, and then make him Bill "Obi Wan" Clinton. You know the whole "If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine." And, well, he did.

    2. BlueStateLibel

      I'm thinking he should go the 14th amendment too. Let the Boner and teatards try to impeach him, they're utterly worthless anyway doing anything. The spectacle of a mostly white congress wasting taxpayer time and money trying to lynch a black president who's trying to save the country should set the teatard congress back years and years.

      1. OneDollarJuana

        I think the House would have a pretty good chance of impeaching the Pres (simple majority required). They're a bunch of loonies, insulated from reality in D.C. (the white part, that is). Shoot, they impeached Clinton for a little dalliance. Of course, conviction is pretty much impossible (two thirds majority required in Senate), but the impeachment stain goes deep. Watch out, Barry!

        1. Negropolis

          It's no doubt they'd likely impeach him in the House. If they impeached Clinton, they'd sure as hell impeach Obama. I don't think that's the point. I think that for as much as he's blamed for, not even Americans would approve of impeaching him. It's be horrible optics for the GOP.

          Clinton didn't get stained by impeachment. In fact, he came out of it stronger. Whatever stain he had was from lying, not the impeachment process. That process actually had opposite consequence of engendering a lot of sympathy for the guy.

        2. PristineODummy

          Exactly. Even if they don't succeed in impeaching him, what they *can* (and *will*) do is tie up the business of the nation and waste a few billion to create a pointless hoopla. While we sit and comb through the dust bunnies for the last crumbs of remembered food. Fuckers.

  11. Radiotherapy®

    Boehner said he stuck his neck out. It would have been funnier if McConnell stuck his out. Either way, don't worry America, especially you 0.1% of the upper crust. No one is going to touch your tax rate. Sleep tight.

    1. ShaveTheWhales

      C'mon now, McConnell can only stick his neck out a couple of inches. You expect him to abandon his shell?

    2. comrad_darkness

      Really? American history clearly demonstrates that if they keep this shit up long their rate will be 90%. They are short term thinkers and too greedy to give a crap.

  12. GeorgiaBurning

    The Dems showing some gonads.. who'd have guessed! There is a part of me wanting to see what happens when the tea-tards suddenly stop getting their government checks and fresh batteries for those hoveround chairs. Yes, it would be safer watching from Montreal.

  13. not that Dewey

    I got an email from my gap-toothed dumbass republican congressgoon, Steve Pearce, in which he boasted broadly about his plans to kill Medicare in order to "reduce spending".

    Because of lower payroll taxes due to the rise in unemployment, and the increasing population of those 65 and older, the Medicare trust fund is expected to be exhausted by 2019…

    THAT'S NOT WHY, YOU DUMBSHIT! It's because payroll taxes are only figured on the first $100k of income, moron! It's the single most regressive tax on the books. If you smug entitled rich oilman fucks would just pay some fuckin taxes, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

    [sniffs the air] What's that? My anus burgers are ready? Ta-ta.

    1. Dudleydidwrong

      Pearce then introduced legislation to make it illegal to live beyond age 65 unless you can show evidence that you have enough millions to survive for at least fifteen years with your country club dues paid up for that period of time.

        1. PristineODummy

          He looks like he's been ball-gargling a bit much of late. Someone needs to tell him that gap-toothed WIMMINZ are sexy, gap-toothed men, not so much.

      1. not that Dewey

        Oh, and check this out. He's a member of the "Magnificent 11" [throws up in mouth], whose illustrious membership also includes Allen West, Joe Walsh, and Steve King. It's a Hendekafecta of Fail!

          1. James Michael Curley

            I googled "hendekafecta" and all it brought up was alink to your post. It internet is getting scary.

          2. not that Dewey

            That's known as a "monogooglaticism" — when a google search returns only one hit.

          3. James Michael Curley

            That there are people who gave it a name scares me more. I’m going back to chalk boards as the source of all knowledge. Preferably with Miss Clemmens of the tight sweaters, short skirts and English accent standing in front of them.

          4. not that Dewey

            A friend at work suggested that word to me about a year ago. I googled it at the time, and it returned no hits, making it agooglatic, I suppose, and a genuine word-coinage.

            Monogooglaticisms are exceedingly rare, and transitory. As you can see, there are now four searchable references to "hendekafecta", meaning it is no longer monogooglatic.

            Tight sweaters are nice, too.

          5. not that Dewey

            I may have had to invent it. But I used all the standard techniques of word-corruption. Here's hoping it catches on!

          6. tessiee

            As a Sesquipidalian-American, I shall immediately don a tight sweater in tribute to my fellow Word Nerds.

            (__)=(__)

    2. Pragmatist2

      Actually you are both wrong. The Medicare tax applies to ANY income. Social Security stops just before 100K. Medicare is, hard truth, a welfare program. Since the payroll tax never stops the high salaried pay more and then the Medicare Part B and D premiums are 4 times higher for high income people than for 95% of Americans to subsidize the others. It's a good model and ultimately a fair one. But it is progressive, not regressive.

      1. not that Dewey

        You are correct, sir or madam, about the income cap. The $100k limit on Medicare was removed in 1993, and will be replaced with a $200k ($250k, married filing jointly) limit in 2013. I assume that's a feature of the PPACA.

        The Medicare tax rate is flat, though. Flat taxes still tend to be regressive, in the sense that 2.9% of a minimum wage salary takes a larger absolute bite out of a household's budget than does 2.9% of $1B. With $971M, one can still live rather comfortably. To a family with $30k of income, every $900 is significant.

        And that still leaves the issue of the absolute regressivity of the Social Security portion of FICA. And the gaping hole in the federal coffers that results. And the question of who are the beneficiaries of such a regressive tax (congressgoons and their corporatist overlords?)

        Sure makes for good loony ranting though, doesn't it?

    3. tessiee

      Sure, go after Medicare. That wouldn't be career suicide or anything. Everyone knows old people hardly ever vote.

  14. alaninthecastro

    I think it's a really sound idea that the lower house of Congress can blow up the country any time it chooses unless the Senate and the President agree to policies abhorrent to them. That's pretty much what the Founding Fathers had in mind, isn't it? These Tea Party folks have read the Constitution, so they must know what they're talking about.

    1. ShaveTheWhales

      These Tea Party folks have read hallucinated the Constitution, so they must know what they're talking about.

      /Fixed

    2. Pres.Beeblebrox

      That, and the really sound idea that it takes a supermajority of the upper house to pass a bill if the minority wants to be little whiny bitches about it.

      1. LetUsBray

        The filibiuster isn't in the constitution. It became a tradition somewhere along the way, like DUIs on New Year's Eve, and the Democrats have been as usual too dickless to consider making it harder to abuse.

        1. Sassomatic

          And they don't even have to actually do the filibustering. They just say they will filibuster if they have to, and then that's it. Jesus fuck.

          1. Negropolis

            That's one of the biggest things I still have not yet given Reid for. He had the power to change the rules back to something more sensible at the beginning of the sessesion, and I don't think he even called a vote on it.

    3. flamingpdog

      They've read the Constitution in pretty much the same way they've read the BIble. I really feel sorry for Jeebus sometimes. How often he must watch the Teatards and wish Dad hadn't taken those anger management classes before he was born.

    4. tessiee

      "I think it's a really sound idea that the lower house of Congress can blow up the country any time it chooses unless the Senate and the President agree to policies abhorrent to them. "

      Baggers: Abolish Medicare or we'll shoot this cute li'l puppy.
      Barry: OK.
      Baggers: Now give us all the money from Social Security, or we'll shoot this cute li'l puppy.
      Barry: Okey dokey.
      Baggers: Now pass a Constitutional amendment appointing Reagan Emperor for Life posthumously, or we'll…
      Barry: You bet.

      Obviously, I'm kidding, of course.
      None of them know a word as big as "posthumously".

  15. Mahousu

    I've got 50 fast-food packets of ketchup, 20 of soy sauce (low-sodium mostly, unfortunately), 5 mayonnaise, 3 something else sort of white (tartar sauce?) and half a box of saltines. Oh, and a grated parmesan shaker that's not completely empty.

    Not the best disaster-readiness kit ever, but I should be able to hold out a few days, at least.

    1. alaninthecastro

      I'll trade you two bottles of Bud Lite that someone brought to a party at my house for the saltines and the parmesan shaker.

      Also, according to "Hints from Heloise," Teapocalypse Edition, if you let the white, tartar-sauce like substance grow instead of eating it all now, you'll soon have a fuzzy crop of tasty mold!

    2. Dudleydidwrong

      Not too shabby, but I don't see any nutmeg on the list. I'll trade you some for two ketchup packets and five saltines.

        1. user-of-owls

          That was six hours ago. They're fetching 320 trillion factorial Zimbabwe dollars now. Oops, wait…now it's 340…no, wait…now…

        2. zhubajie

          Let me put it differently: how many quart bottles of cheap beer = 5 lb potatoes? Let's say generic beer, like Cost-cutter or Milwaukee's Best? For 5 lb of Idaho bakers?

    3. Swampgas_Man

      I rummaged around and found a bottle of local Concorde, which is almost as sweet as Manischevitz. Hiding under the bed and drinking sounds like a plan to me!

    4. tessiee

      "I've got 50 fast-food packets of ketchup, 20 of soy sauce (low-sodium mostly, unfortunately), 5 mayonnaise, 3 something else sort of white (tartar sauce?) and half a box of saltines. Oh, and a grated parmesan shaker that's not completely empty. "

      And you're wearing sunglasses in the dark.
      Hit it!

    5. user-of-owls

      "I'm prepared too. I know your address. And I noticed that your preparations are light on defensive weaponry."

      –Today's Dilbert. Really!

    1. BarackMyWorld

      Because they're uncompromising obstructionists. Unlike when Republicans do it, when it's known as principled unity.

  16. ifthethunderdontgetya

    Hurray!

    Some rat-asses in our government said, "Lets fuck the people really good, this time!"

    And other rat-asses said, "NO, we must spread it out for greater people-fucking pleasure!"

    And all the pundits employed by all the plutocrats sat around thinking "is this going to be good for me, or is this gonna be GREAT for me", and they sang:

    Do wah diddy
    ~

  17. the_problem_child

    Mitch McConnell has said he will not negotiate with Harry Reid. Not sure what that means. Seems to me there are a few Rs who would (Ladies of Maine, for example.)

    1. Negropolis

      Mitch McConnell has said he will not negotiate with Harry Reid.

      How is that different than usual?

    2. ShaveTheWhales

      Certainly, it's obvious? It means Mitch McConnell is an asshole.

      Of course, the sun coming up in the morning means Mitch McConnell is an asshole, but there ya go.

      1. Lascauxcaveman

        Turtle MM is an asshole who has made it quite plain that he won't do anything that might conceivably result in that nigger getting re-elect preznit.

        Such as allowing the Senate to "govern."

    3. mumbly_joe

      Unless I'm misunderstanding, he's saying he's not going to let a debt ceiling bill -any debt ceiling bill- leave the Senate: he's also saying that he's going to allow a fillibuster from his caucus.

      So, yeah, hahaha, we're all completely fucked.

  18. OC_Surf_Serf

    Rand Paul voted against Boehner's Plan?

    It seems they didn't cancel enough Constitutional Amendments.

    1. ShaveTheWhales

      It didn't include the requirement for the "Rand Paul is a Board-Certified Ophthalmologist" amendment to the Constitution.

  19. glamourdammerung

    So, when do we start the pool on when Cantor tries to take the Speaker position?

      1. glamourdammerung

        I would say that Orange Boner crying is a given, but I think he would fight for the position out of ego.

    1. flamingpdog

      The only pool I want to see Cantor in is an Olympic-sized one full of sulphuric acid.

  20. hollywooddood

    After all those orange tears, TammyFaye Boehner wanted to show America that he has some balls. Turns out he doesn't, after all.

    1. flamingpdog

      If that Boehner had lasted more than four hours, the Senate would have had to call a doctor.

    1. SudsMcKenzie

      I heard SC fancy boy Lindsey was among them.

      update: * Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.)
      * Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.)
      * Sen. David Vitter (R-LA)
      * Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT)
      * Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT)
      * Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY)

      Graham, DeMint, Vitter, Paul, …. God save us, or not

      1. Negropolis

        Let's see…

        Graham probably did it because he actually doesn't want to default. DeMint did it because he's fucking crazy and wants to take this country back to before it's birth. Ditto for Mike Lee and Rand Paul, who are honest-to-goodness tea partiers. Hatch voted with us I bet you as a big 'eff you to the tea party since he's very likely to lose re-election because of them.

        Vitter? I have absolutely no idea. But, where the hell is McCain? This is one of those issues where he would walk with us.

        1. SudsMcKenzie

          McCain couldn't resist his instinct to miss the landing and try to take out the ship.

      1. Negropolis

        Well, a whole hell bunch of them defected in the House, and that's a given, because, well, the Boehner plan was too "liberal" for those loons, don't you know.

        1. not that Dewey

          It's gonna make for an interesting primary season…Alvin Greene and Basil Marceaux have got nothing on the primary challengers that we'll be seeing next year.

  21. the_onceler

    If only every mention of Joe Walsh was not about that dickish congressman but instead about the amazing guitarist. Sigh.

    1. Weenus299

      He divorced his wife and didn't make child support payments.
      He lost his condo, now he's a congressman.

      … You're right. Doesn't quite have a ring to it.

        1. LetUsBray

          He can't complain, but sometimes he still throws tantrums like a sniveling little four-year old sack of snot.

  22. DemonicRage

    NPR is already lining up interviews it will be doing with old people who won't get their Social Security checks after the Aug. 2nd deadline isn't met. This collapse of the North American Empire is an industry, after all. Peggy Noonan has her column in rough draft form. The media goes on. It's just the people who have to suffer.

    1. Jukesgrrl

      Wait 'til those checks don't go out — they'll find out how many olds are using them to support their unemployed middle-aged children.

    2. zhubajie

      What percentage of those check-less old-timers will be Tea Party supporters, do you suppose?

    3. comrad_darkness

      Peggy Noonington will be interviewing Steve Forbes, I'm sure, about how dreadfully stressful it is wondering whether his dividend checks for that day will have five digits or six.

  23. AJWjr.

    Again with the 4.2% plunge on Wall Street, but when they forced me to give up 15% of my salary, it was considered a haircut, shared sacrifice if you will.

    Fuck those guys.

    1. flamingpdog

      I'd vote for having 4.2% of those fuckers take a plunge from a 20th-story window on Wall Street, every day for the next 24 days.

  24. Weenus299

    Ya'll shut it. Boner's moves Created Jobs. What have you done for unemployment in America!?

    1. AJWjr.

      What have you done for unemployment in America!?
      I've stayed unemployed for over 4 years now ftw.

    2. Dudleydidwrong

      Boner's (bowel) movement Created Jobs. What have you done for the shit shovelers of America? Minor modification…

    3. tessiee

      "What have you done for unemployment in America!?"

      Um, added to it, thereby freeing up my jerb so a Real Amurrican [tm] could have it?
      Not that it was entirely my idea.

  25. Pres.Beeblebrox

    Watching this stuff go down, I feel like I'm reading that book by David Niven & Jerry Pournelle, "Lucifer's Hammer". The Comet is on its way, and the closer it gets, the more fucked-up people get. Then after it hits (hot fudge sundae on a Tuesdae!), all hell breaks loose. Just hope we don't get the Cannibal Army coming after our mountain hideout.

    1. ShaveTheWhales

      Just hope one of us remembers how to make mustard gas.

      Oh, and, as you know, "Larry".

      1. Neilist_Returns

        Might have been more interesting if it had been co-authored by David Niven.

        [Larry's stuff really when downhill after "Footfall."]

      2. OneDollarJuana

        Drano and Clorox make a pretty toxic cloud. Damn near killed one of the moms in my neighborhood when I was a kid. But her toilet was clean.

    2. Doktor Zoom

      Seein' as how you're a big ol' SF nerd (i.e., a gentleman and scholar), have you by chance read Jo Walton's Among Others? It's just a lovely little novel about the joys of discovering SF & fandom, set in 1979, and featuring a Welsh girl who, with her twin sister, Saved The World Through Magic (but that happened before the events of the novel). I've used it to put together my own reading list of SF titles that I'd missed.

    3. zhubajie

      Almost any account of the chaos at the end of any major war will serve. Prepare to have lots of T-Turds becoming local warlords.

    1. Neilist_Returns

      Ted Nugent has a wonderful recipe for bow-hunted Papa Smurf.

      But they're blue. Which might be a problem, if your dinner guest prefer pan fried Orange Boehner.

    2. user-of-owls

      True story: Every two years I teach an honors-level colloquium on political violence. It's nasty. Really, really nasty. The kids have to do a presentation at the end, no guidelines at all. Just, "Do something that relates to the topic somehow." I usually tell them something along the lines of, "Be creative! Go nuts!" They sometimes do (I had a girl take me up on the offer to present via interpretive dance. Oh my)

      But, back to your little blue friends. A number of years back, this skinny sort of quiet nerd-type did his presentation entirely on the theme of political violence in kiddie cartoons. A chunk of it was Smurf-related; something about an oppressive autocracy exploiting the aquateriat as I recall. A rather more disturbing segment was lovingly devoted to My Little Pony. Fortunately, it seems I've successfully purged that from my memory. In all seriousness, it was an absolutely professional class, insightful and even powerful presentation.

      Nonetheless, I'm still praying that they frequently check the locks on the bell towers around here.

      1. mumbly_joe

        The spring before I started college, there were two wildly popular. honors seminars in the History department. One of them was on the political roots of Communism, and for a project, they created a mini-commune in the middle of the college's main lawn for a week, culminating in a May Day rally on the steps of the main administration building.

        The other popular seminar -which, I forgot to mention, was on Fascist Europe- stormed the rally with supersoakers and water balloons and took over the commune, reading from a manifesto that called for prioritizing the state over the individual, more Wagner, and increasing the birthrate of the college. And this was all for credit, also too.

        And that's the story of the first moment I was certain I had selected the right college for undergrad.

          1. mumbly_joe

            Yeah, my school's neither big enough nor midwestern enough to get any of that Brother Jed action.

            Though, when we're not spreading fascism at supersoaker-point, we are apparently spreading it through our Education department. So, we do have that.

          2. flamingpdog

            Ohhhh, back in the day, you always knew when it was springtime in Boulder because Jed Smock showed up at the University Memorial Center fountain to preach to the jeering faithful. Oh, to be young again and laugh and point at Jed.

        1. user-of-owls

          Hoo-fucking-rah! Great work, liberal fascist professoriate!

          Oh, one more 'creative' antic from my Pol-Vio class. Back when I had them doing group projects, the group scheduled for that day was entirely absent. Not a one of them. Angry Profe Owls curses and mutters for a while, then flails about trying to start a discussion. Twenty minutes into the (3 hour!) class, the group bashes open the door and, dressed in camo and carrying toy machine guns, takes the class 'hostage' and proceeds to march us out onto the main lawn of campus. In camo, waving guns, the class squatting at their feet.

          How in the love of fucking muscular jesus we didn't provoke a campus lock-down, a SWAT response and quite possibly serious federal charges and/or an "oopsie" shooting remains a complete mystery for me. Ok, it was pre-9/11, but still? Really?

          1. mayor_quimby

            That is awesome, even my liberal poli-sci ass woulda started punching hippies left and right at that point. Try doing that at a school that had numerous Arab sheiks kids there and was about 30% Jewish , not gonna end well, somebody is gonna get shot in the face.

  26. Negropolis

    Boehner, Custer's last stand said what?

    Boehner has been done in. He's through. It took him a full six months to totally self-destruct his caucus. lol

    1. Radiotherapy®

      Remember the other night we were talking about real punk music?

      They found the body of General George A. Custer
      Quilled like a porcupine with Indian arrows
      He didn't die with any honor, any dignity, any valor
      When they found George A. Custer
      American general, patriot and Indian fighter
      He died with shit in his pants

  27. HateMachine

    Hope you like expanded power for the executive branch (what's that? we're not supposed to like that?), because barring Congress getting its shit together for five consecutive minutes, that's all that stands between the US and total economic collapse.

    If there's no bill, we pray Barry has the sack to say "fuck this, raising this shit by executive fiat, and fuck you all", and watch as that thing we hated so much during the Bush days (the unitary executive) rears its head again. We're going to remove another safety feature from the oval office, because what other choice will we have?

    On the plus side, if it goes to the courts, Alito and Scalia will be so torn. They love having a big strong man in the White House, but this one's, um, you know.

      1. Lascauxcaveman

        NIGGERNIGGERNIGGER NIGGERNIGGERNIGGER NIGGERNIGGERNIGGER NIGGERNIGGERNIGGERVNIGGERNIGGER NIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGERNIGGERVV NIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGER NIGGER NIGGER!!!!

        (Lenny Bruce said it you you say it repeatedly loud and fast enough, it loses all meaning.)

    1. DustBowlBlues

      He could be white or asian or, forbid the thought, orange and it would be the same. Uncle Thomas and the Eye-talian prick made up their minds on all decisions prior to be appointed.

      Will this benefit a major corporation? and/or Will this fuck the Democrats?

      That's why Uncle Tom doesn't ask questions. He tells a clerk to write the opinion prior to paying attention to the boring case before him.

      BTW–Fuck Anthony Kennedy. He has less backbone than BOehner.

    2. DustBowlBlues

      On a serious note, I've wondered what a Republitard would use extended power. Maybe we should warn Iran.

    3. horsedreamer_1

      For Tony Knuckles-dragger & Sammy the Bullshitter, it will come down to how much their SCOTUS salary is versus how much they're skimming from Americans for Prosperity. If the former exceeds the latter, they will back the imposition of the 14th amendment, in this case, since likely they would see a loss of income in the event of the U.S. gov't having to devote almost all of its funds to interest on the debt & Medicare & Soc Sec.

  28. donner_froh

    To: President Hu Jintao, Peoples Republic of China
    From: President Barack Obama, United States of America

    Subject: About that one trillion dollars we borrowed–we may skip a few payments but don't let that worry you.

  29. WordSaladNation

    Did you see the New York Times headline? It reads: "Senate Quickly Kills Boehner," and then there are other words, but I basically stopped reading after that because I'm drunk and it was funny, because the Senate kills my boehner, too.

  30. ShaveTheWhales

    In this particular case, I am not conflicted about the unitary-executive thing. The whole "debt ceiling" concept is nothing but content-free political posturing (which has, historically, been used by legislators of both parties to pretend to be more deficit-hawky).

    It is nothing but puff (I have to believe that, because otherwise it is a serious mechanism for the United States to renege on its debts, and I refuse to believe that of the Greatest Cuntry Evah). An executive puncturing of this fluff bubble would be a resounding victory for the Constitution: "You guys voted to spend this money, but not to have enough taxes to collect it, so we have to borrow. It's your job to collect enough money to cover the expenses you authorize. It's my job to pay the fucking bills, so Ima gonna".

    1. HateMachine

      All this is true.

      The real purpose of all this talk of "unitary executives" is to get Scalia all hot and bothered should this case arrive at the Supremes' door.

      1. ShaveTheWhales

        I really didn't need to contemplate the concept of a "hot and bothered" Scalia at this point in Friday evening.

    2. Negropolis

      Bingo. The "debt ceiling" was created/contrived in 1918 or some shit. It's the president's job to pay the bills, period. It's actually one of his or hers main job.

        1. AddHomonym

          That article, like many others, references "brinksmanship." Isn't the term actually "brinkmanship"?

          That is all I have to contribute to this debate.

          1. Doktor Zoom

            Most dictionaries list brinkmanship first but note that brinksmanship is an acceptable variant.

            And, of course, usage determines meaning (last thing I'd want would be to start a prescriptivist vs descriptivist fight in Wonkette…because, after all, descriptivism is the only legitimate approach).

          2. AddHomonym

            And to be fair, I guess on the Internets and the Twitters there could be several brinks up to which I could drive my manship.

  31. JackObin

    This nation isn't nearly silly enough. If only Walmart were the number one employer……..

  32. VinnyThePooh

    Terrific. Now I'm going to be bombarded with Boner and Bitch all weekend, talking like they have a mouthful of shit.

  33. ShaveTheWhales

    So, apparently, Dirty Harry has tweaked his bill to include the "Prez can increase the debt limit, and Congress can shoot it down with a supermajority", originally floated by McTurtle.

    I guess I'm okay with that, although I'd still prefer a simple executive override: "You cannot pass a bill that says that the budget bills you previously passed have to meet an impossible standard. Also, you cannot petition the Lord with prayer". But, this would get the job done.

    I wonder how Mitch is going to justify voting against what is essentially his fucking bill.

    1. Negropolis

      I can stomach this, but what good is any of this if nothing, absolutely nothing, can pass in the House?

      1. ShaveTheWhales

        If it could pass the Senate, it would put the Senate on the side of the 14th Amendment Solution when Barry has to invoke it. Admittedly a small point, but one which would undermine the impeach-the-nigger reaction in the House.

        1. horsedreamer_1

          More GOP double-speak: impeaching the President for not "defending the Constitution the of the United States", as he is sworn to, when, in fact, he would be defending the 14th amendment to the Constitution.

          Of course, as the 14th is one of the Reconstruction/Slavery Bad amendments, the GOP of today does not consider it legitimate. So, no worries. Impeach!

  34. hilbillyheroine

    Since Ms. Mitch McConnell will negotiate only with Obama, I suspect Obama will have to add some "sweeteners" to persuade the Teabagger Sociopath wing of the GOP. Perhaps he could offer small puppies and kittens (from the socialistic animal shelters of course) to the teabag wing, for kicking. Obama could also offer up a FLAT 150% tax on all canes, walkers, wheelchairs, seeing eye dogs, nursing-home beds, infant formula, diapers, depends. He could offer up a value added tax at all grocery stores (200%), and tax medicine at 300%. His negotiating skills are outstanding.

    1. Jukesgrrl

      Canes, walkers, and wheelchairs, fine. But he'd have to exempt Hoverounds and Monster Scooters™.

  35. user-of-owls

    Ok, maybe I was a bit too oblique in an earlier post; regarding how savagely Layne-sque all of today's posts have been. So allow me to note simply that Ken's heirs have clearly been well trained in the art of forcing a corkscrew into any heart of optimism and pulling very forcefully out.

    1. not that Dewey

      You mean the "Ken is dead" rumor? I'll need to see a picture of him in a black suit walking barefoot through a crosswalk before I'll believe that.

    2. ShaveTheWhales

      You were so oblique, it's not possible to determine how the Ken-is-Dead rumor relates to Palin's hookworms.

        1. Jukesgrrl

          That's the only recipe in my collection that prints out as a full, margin-to-margin, page of type. Ken will never make it as a cookbook author.

        2. DustBowlBlues

          And fabulous cranberry sauce, I might add. Before serving it, I read the recipe to the family and added some harty-har-hars to the Thanksgiving festivities. Which I suppose says as much about our family as anyone needs to know.

  36. not that Dewey

    I have learned the difference between a cactus and a caucus. On a cactus, the pricks are on the outside.

    -Mo Udall

    1. flamingpdog

      I miss than man. His son is one of my Senators. I wish we had Stew Udall's son instead.

      1. not that Dewey

        Me too. : (

        You must be in Colorado (Mark Udall?) My senator, Tom Udall, has hella fight in him, and I'm glad that he got the Domenici seat.

          1. not that Dewey

            No, thank you.

            The future is not all bright, though. Heather Fuckin Wilson will be running for Bingaman's seat next year, and unless Rep Martin Heinrich can head her off, we'll have our own mini-Inhofe very soon.

          2. horsedreamer_1

            Heather Wilson was one of TPM's Weaseliest Weasels in the George W. Bush 2005 Mandate National Tour/Let's Bankrupt Social Security. Gotta love that woman.

            Especially since the Count, Chris Chocola, is no longer with us (i.e. retired from the House).

      2. not that Dewey

        Hey — you wouldn't happen to be anywhere near Colorado Springs, would you? I'm here for two days, and I've never had an IRL Wonket experience.

        1. flamingpdog

          I'm a slave of state gubmint in SE Denver, and live about 30 miles up to the north, near the Peoples Republic of Boulder. What are you doing in Jesusland, CO?

          1. not that Dewey

            Vendor visit. There's an electronics company here that wants me to validate their test data (I know — yawn).

            I love the rich taste, it's the tardfiend I could do without.

    2. Doktor Zoom

      God I loved Mo. Saw him in the mid 80's when his Parkinsons' tremors were enough to make it difficult for him to stay in front of the microphone, but he was still a hell of a speaker, and he ended with his usual sign-off: "Well, those are my views. And if you don't like 'em…I'll change 'em!"

      EDIT: Huh…and here's something incredibly sad that I didn't know: In 1997, when Udall was dying in a Veterans' Hospital in DC, the only politician who regularly visited him was John McCain. I used to like McCain–never really his politics, but before he became obsessed with winning at any cost, he struck me as more decent than not. Sigh….

      1. not that Dewey

        Awesome — I'm envious that you got to meet him. I only know him through his legacy, and his nephew, who's my Senator.

        I felt the same way about Walnuts, pre-2000. Good on him for visiting a dying hero.

        I met him at a campaign stop when he was running against Bush; he autographed a bumper sticker, which I still have, shook my hand and called me a "great American". In retrospect, I should have kidnapped him at that point and thrown him in the Silence of the Lambs skin suit pit and spared us all the misery that was to follow.

      2. not that Dewey

        That was a really touching article, by the way. "There's no way Mo could have been more wonderful," [McCain] says, "and there was no reason for him to be that way."

        McCain suffered some permanent psyche damage after the 2000 election. They were so cruel to him, and either statesmanship or an "offer he couldn't refuse" caused him to toady up and pretend it never happened. I'd be bitter, too. But if I were the Patriot that he claims to be, I'd sooner drop out of politics than do what he did in 2008. No amount of cruelty justifies unleashing that harpie on the Nation, or what it's done to our politics.

        1. comrad_darkness

          Watching my parents get old and go from partial wingnut to full wingnut made me think he just got too old to follow the overwhelming process of running for office. I'm sure it didn't help that he didn't use the Internet in following the gist of his campaign staff meetings.

  37. Lionel[redacted]Esq

    You know, if the Democrats had been smart, they should have demanded a single payer health care system be attached to the legislation letting Bush go to war.

  38. Doktor Zoom

    Haha, suckers, I just watched The Book of Eli, so I know how to prepare for the future. Got me all the KFC wet-wipes I need to get through the Apocalypse.

  39. fuflans

    it just occured to me that baggers are in fact act one in the seven ages of man:

    At first, the infant,
    Mewling and puking* in the nurse's arms.

    and all the grosser for being on average 68 and 290 pounds.

  40. mourningnmerica

    I would like to humbly suggest that any future reference to John Boehner be preceded by the prefix "Tea Party poodle…"

    1. DustBowlBlues

      I'm on board. Need to exit to my fb page for a minute. In my universe, it will be Teabagglican poodle, John BOehner

    2. Jukesgrrl

      I'm sure there's someone out there willing to dye a white poodle orange, so he could have a mascot. "And out guests tonight on Hardball are Tan Man and his sidekick, Lil Tangerine."

    1. Jukesgrrl

      Good job! I haven't seen enough Blingees lately. Is that the Beeb dancing in the corner?

  41. stew1

    The only good news I can think of is forthcoming arrest of all News Corp employees for hacking everyone's phones.

    1. James Michael Curley

      News Corp has reached 'unfliping believable' levels of crude partisanship and general journalistic malfeasance.;
      Thursday they ran an article with "text message from Norway terro island"
      Today the really big headline was that Obama has lost 37,000 twiter folowers after his campaign to pass debt legislation was launched on teiter. That 37,000 is .36% of his follwers; a fact the Post neglected to mention, along with a source for their count.

    2. not that Dewey

      They should be arrested on principle, just for having the bad judgement to apply for a job there in the first place.

  42. Negropolis

    OT: Saw Rachel Maddow's name trending on Yahoo! Guess Bradlee Dean is suing her for $50 million. Yeah, $50 million.

  43. freakishlywrong

    So, in 2012, when the country lies in teabagged ruins, can we finally send all these jackholes back to their anti-Gubbmint militias and civil war re-enactment regiments? They really have no place anywhere near the levers of power and don't know shit about governing.

    1. tessiee

      I've often wondered how this many people who are so effing stupid have gotten to the point where they have any power whatsoever over the rest of us. Shouldn't they be cleaning the smart, decent people's toilets, and not even doing a very good job of that?

  44. Goonemeritus

    Just a quick note to all you Teabagers out there (you know who you are). Legislation is passed by a process, it requires both houses to have a say and the President to sign it. Holding your breath and stomping your feet when you represent 20% of America won’t help. Actually holding your breath might work you just need to give it your all.

    1. Negropolis

      Alas, our miraculous bodies have the mechanism of passing out so that we can get air in us when we need it. It may still be an option, though, considering our bodies can't decide when, where, and what we fall on…

  45. voodooeconomics

    Debt ceiling negotiations are causing irregular bowel movements. I am in a bad state of nerves lately. Doctor recommends i give them a chance and if not Obama might save the day by declaring all Republicans in Congress as idiots.

    Can the Big O do that?

    1. not that Dewey

      Debt ceiling negotiations are causing becoming irregular bowel movements.

      fixed.

    1. Rotundo_

      Retirement Lotto! Why didn't W market Social Security privitization as Retirement Lotto? The baggers would have gone for it hook line and patriotic sinker! Wait for it, the next thing will be Retirement Lotto, Health Care Lotto, Housing Lotto, Food Lotto! Place your bets and see if fate is kind or if you die, it's always exciting, always entertaining! I can see them now; I want to allow all americans the opportunity to be winners, not just survivors, in retirement. What better than putting your money in the greatest country on earths' investment system and take that spin for freedom. If you win you're set, and if even if you lose, you still have the knowledge that you have made an American, or American subsidiary of a foreign company money! Scratch off tickets are available at any bank, hospital or realtor's office in denominations of 100, 500 or 1,000 dollars or go for the gold with the 10,000 dollar "Lucky Sucker" bonus scratch off where you could win up to 10,000 dollars in medical coverage and a portrait of the greatest president ever, Ronald Wilson Reagan atop a horse.
      Buy NOW!!!1!!1!!!!!

      1. Jukesgrrl

        Brilliant! My father — and the "I love everything that's bad for me" Raygun worshipers he hung out with — would have gone for that in a big way.

  46. genxr

    "We stayed up all night but we finally managed to wreck the American economy — again. Ball's in your court, Dems."

  47. tessiee

    Improved headline:
    Boehner Proudly Passes His Dumb Bill, Senate Immediately Suffocates Him

  48. ttommyunger

    Well, it took the Tea Party to unite the lame-ass Democrats. Will wonders ever cease?

    1. Radiotherapy®

      You mean the lame-ass Dems are united in cutting the social safety net and not asking for a fucking penny in increased revenues? Right?

  49. lulzmonger

    What kind of Meanie McMeanersons would stifle the patriotism & virtue of Boehner's Cut America's Head Off & Fuck Its Gushing Neck-Stump Act Of 2011?

    Sweet over/under on Boehner being too royally hammered to stay standing up for ten consecutive seconds by Tuesday, I imagine.

    1. Jukesgrrl

      If he didn't want it to be rejected, he could have put, "And by the way, ban abortion," at the end of it.

    2. KenLayIsAlive

      So it's the nuclear option then? I assume this means mass suicide with our countries giant nuclear arsenal, is that right? Cool, I'll be outside waiting.

  50. DustBowlBlues

    I know this isn't serious because Tebagglican poodle John Boner hasn't cried. I'm assuming his tears smell like tanning oil and nicotine.

    1. not that Dewey

      To paraphrase Peter Tork, "his sebaceous glands are permeated with the odor of turpentine".

  51. Ken Cuccinelli

    So anyone else noticing that Spanky got permabanned from the entire Intense Debate system? It looks like they deleted his accounts, since is "2" account is inactive and the "2b" one completely disappeared from my last 5 list. It says "Last 5 Visitors" but there's only four.

    Don't worry, if he's enough of a fucking psycho he'll figure out the magic of proxies. I remember we dealt with a particularly mentally ill troll at another blog that pretty much couldn't be banned- they'd IP ban him and he'd go to the library or something. Although the proprietors were kinda unwilling to banhammer anyone, so yeah.

    1. Doktor Zoom

      He still has an active account with another name (Hi, "______" * / Spanky!), but as long as he stays within the Terms of Service otherwise, I'm inclined to leave him be. If he starts abusing the TOS, of course, then it would be time for him to get banned hard.

      *See how nice I am? I 19th-century-noveled his new ID just to be gentlemanly!

  52. DustBowlBlues

    Has anyone noticed that the more Boner is pushed by the teabaggers, the more he smacks between each sentence? He's ever more difficult to listen to.

  53. DustBowlBlues

    Hey–Ken Conrad to the rescue, probably axing Social Security and Medicaid and giving out those coupons in lieu of Medicare.

    The Teabagglicans refused if a constitutional amendment was included until Conrad sweetened the deal by altering the Medicare deal by fulling covering scooters.

    1. DustBowlBlues

      I obviously meant the amendment wasn't excluded, by a got positive thumbs before I realized the mistake and hit edit. Sorry. Illiteracy, however, gives me a view into the world of the Teabbagger economic suicide terrorists.

  54. johnnyzhivago

    As a preventive measure, America should seek professional counseling – I wouldn't want the country to end up as a drunken meth addict, stumbling around the parking lot of the UN asking for quarters or standing in line at the methadone clinic while all the other countries were going on with their lives.

  55. KenLayIsAlive

    Oh man, I'm mad enough to delve into song parody now – To Cee Lo Green's "Fuck You"
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17eSUnQ-_ek&fe

    I see you drivin' drivin' down
    the country i love and i'm like,
    Fuck you!
    Oo, oo, ooo
    I guess the Change that we voted for
    Wasn't enough i'm like,
    Fuck you!
    And fuck these "Dems" too!

    if we were still British, i'd have some healthcare
    Ha, now ain't that some shit? (ain't that some shit?)
    And though Wall Street sits on a treasure chest
    They want their taxes slashed
    Fuck you!
    Oo, oo, ooo

  56. Limeylizzie

    Just heard Mike Lee ( Teabugger R.NY) saying that the Tea Party had nothing to do with the fucking shit going on now, what a fucking , fuckfaced, fuckwad, fuckingtonshire cunt.

  57. LetUsBray

    Still holding out hope the prez sees the need for a 14th amendment solution. I'd be okay with a SEAL Team Six solution, too.

  58. DustBowlBlues

    I've been away from the teevee, making an abortive attempt to get to the grocery store and stock up while American dollars are still legal tender, but the alternator light came on, I called the Old Man and got a trip home in the un-airconditioned old farm truck because the other one is in the shop, where now the car needs to go. It's 105F at 6:00. The Old Man heard two actually OLD farts in town. Their conversation? "That Boehner knows more than you or me have forgot."

    My life sucks. Any news on the massive depression to come? Has not-much Hopey offered the 'Tards a sweetener? Like, not one but two constitutional amendments? One for a balanced budget and another for anything they want? And now they're demanding the sacrifice of a Democrat's daughter?

    How can the guy who killed Osama possibly be such a bad negotiator and have, evidently, no political instinct?

    1. ShaveTheWhales

      It is a weird old world when we are once again relying on Harry Reid to do the heavy lifting.

  59. AntonovBureau

    During the Murdoch session with parliament, there was a continual graph showing News Inc's share price as he positively / negatively responded to questions.

    I'd love to get a similar second-by-second monitoring of this. Who is going to investigate which hedge funds make money off the default or suddenly averted default? Or for that matter those that enrich themselves with the 'must now buy gold' scam.

    FOLLOW THE $$$

  60. Negropolis

    Well, here we go again. Reid puts off the Senate vote until High Noon, tomorrow, since he doesn't have the votes to pass it. Not a surprise, but disappointing nonetheless.

  61. comrad_darkness

    The press is actually cottoning on to the fact the the Tea Party are nothing more than asinine hypocrites.
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-29/tea-part

    Sixty House members backed by the Tea Party, whose opposition to federal spending helped bring on an impasse over raising the U.S. debt ceiling, represent districts that last year received $43 billion in government contracts.

    In 16 of those constituencies, spending exceeded $1 billion each — more than twice the median amount for all House districts, Bloomberg Government reported today.

    1. Radiotherapy®

      What sucks is not so much the obvious here, but that somehow this is news to most people.

    2. glamourdammerung

      Too bad the "liberal media" finally occasionally stopped carrying the water for the teabaggers.

    3. BlueStateLibel

      Good for the press for finally figuring out that teatards are asinine hypocrites, wildly unqualified, and all in all, utter assholes. It's not like we didn't have candidates like Sharon Angle and Christine I'm-not-a-witch making this abundantly clear in 2008.

  62. DustBowlBlues

    This has become one of those endless weekend posts but then again, this Teabagged "crisis" is ongoing. I am so tired of waking up to fucking news about how the fucking Teatards are fucking up the economy.

    Hasn't the Hatriot game plan from the beginning been to make Obama lose the next election by screwing the economy so the recession turns into a depression and the Dems get the blame? As to the people who suffer, Teabaggers say, "Let them eat cake."

    I keep asking myself, won't this economy affect the Kock brothers' "small business?" That's the business I'd like someone to be able to track. They caused this mess, so they must be making money on a depression, no?

    I'm off to bed and continuing to read "Ratification." It's getting harder and harder to read these scholarly histories about the revolutionary/constitutional writing period because the more you know about the founding of this nation, the more you want to start shooting on sight anyone who claims to be a TBagtard. Also, Pauline Maier, Ph.D isn't nearly as good a writer as Richard Beeman, Ph. D.

    The end. Nitey. Normally I say later, losers, but it appears we are all losers today. Glad to enjoy the gallows humor of the wonket, though.

    XXXXXOOOOOOO, DBB

  63. donner_froh

    The life of the economic attaches at U.S. embassies must be really strange about now, trying to explain that the nation is defaulting on its obligations just because it fells like it.

    Might be plenty of good seats at the next Treasury bill auction.

  64. user-of-owls

    So, it's a quiet Saturday, not too many peeps a creepin'…seems like an opportune time to announce that Ken is dead.

    1. ShaveTheWhales

      I find your reasoning very interesting and I'd like to subscribe to your pamphlet.

      Or, how does that go?

      1. user-of-owls

        Pamphlet? Who am I, Croesus?!

        It's a mimeo. And I don't trust the Post Office, so you'll need to come by the corner of Main and 15th Street. Any day of the week.

    2. SudsMcKenzie

      I'm much more worried about "Courtney and that Zucchini". I'm worried cause I haven't seen Campbell Brown in months either.

  65. ShaveTheWhales

    Is everybody else getting "less than a minute ago" on all comments, or is it somehow an artifact of the laptop I'm using?

    1. not that Dewey

      Not me, but that would certainly be confusing. "View by latest activity" would take on a weird new meaning.

  66. Terry

    Boehner used the tea baggers to gain control of the House. Now he's paying the price for that mistake. No, we're all paying the price, aren't we?

  67. freakishlywrong

    Maybe it will occur to our "media" on the fine Sunday shows Republicans on Parade, that perhaps electing a bunch of rabid, right wing anti-gubbmint' zealots is maybe not the best thing for the country? And that no, "both sides" are not to blame. It isn't "the congress", it's the right wing extremists in congress. Unless someone is willing to point that out, they'll just keep getting away with it.

    1. Rotundo_

      Ah the Sunday Gasfest, where all the networks go FOX News for an hour or so to appease the corporate owners. I remember watching them like a little political groupie all those years ago, and even taking them seriously. My how the times have changed. They'll tut-tut about bipartisanship, doing their best Broder imitation and make sure that both sides are almost equally to blame, but the Democrat (sic) party will take a little extra for "balance" and they will all conveniently gloss over the dozens of times the republicans have raised the ceiling without so much as a mumble of protest. If they do anything differently, do let me know, I will be shocked.

      1. freakishlywrong

        Oh Rotundo, I don't actually WATCH that bewlshit. You're neat little synopsis there sums it up nicely.

  68. johnnyzhivago

    Conundrum for Conservatives:

    If we run the country the way Tea Party Congressmen run their own finances, we'll stop paying our Child Support – right??? That means cutting off Israel and that means God cuts US out of the happy end times story, right???

    What does it all mean?

    1. Rotundo_

      I'd doubt they're interested: They like boys and livestock and the dog and the kids don't qualify. If Barry had a goat and two sons, they'd have been gone during the health care debaucle.

    1. BlueStateLibel

      Cops in Norway are now saying Breivik was also considering an attack on Labor Party headquarters.

      I can't read the teatard links because the comments read like word salad for the most part. The idiots can't write, can't construct a sentence, don't understand the words they throw around, and generally behave like spoiled eight-year-olds.

  69. johnnyzhivago

    It's a good thing we can at least count on America's media to help us sort through this. It would be a shame if they were all nothing but a bunch of either corporate controlled tools or freakish reality show rejects who pandered to ratings and did little more than offer both sides of every debate an equal chance to spew bullshit.

    1. DustBowlBlues

      And don't forget the false equivalencies they offer. To show neutrality. That's helpful, as well.

  70. DustBowlBlues

    I was going to ask this on fb and then realized, no. That's a question for wonkeratti.

    Since college, I've believed in the validity of the Hegelian Dialectic. That the pendulum swings right and then left and back again. I keep thinking that this must be it–we have gone so far to the extreme right that the swing back is going to be extreme.

    I just read an article in the CSMonitor about how conservative the country has become, and now I'm beginning to doubt Hegel. (btw–car trouble, couldn't make it to church, so I can look up and see Walnuts on CNN so I can tell him to go fuck himself–god's will)

    (This is cool–Durban is debating McCain straight up. I never knew "Sunday with the Senate" was such a groovy show. I'll have to start DVRing it).

    Back to my point–Does it still work? Is the Dialectic still valid? Will the nation ever go back to being at least moderate? Is there part of the theory I've forgotten since the ancient of days when I learned that shit just long enough to take Dr. Duncan's final exam? Since the finest minds on the internets have to be the wonkeratti recovering from their facing-the-teabag-abyss hangovers, I'm waiting anxiously for an answer from those who have more than just a minor in Political Science.

    1. the_problem_child

      I think the Hegelian dialectic, like everything else, is subject to manipulation and evolution. All bets may be off in a corporatocracy. And I warmly wish you a swing back towards what used to be considered moderate.

    2. donner_froh

      It has been about one zillion years since I read a lot of Hegel and Marx and even more Kant, immortalized by Monty Python as "Immanuel Kant was a real piss-ant who was very rarely stable" and the last time I really worked through a section of "The Phenomenology of Mind" was in the 90s. However I have never been one to let half recalled stuff that I didn't know that well in the first place slow me down, so I won't bore you with that….

      I think, though, that Hegel's method has been used to promote some ideas over others by various lackeys–social scientists, journalists, etc. The inevitable triumph of capitalist democracy over all other forms of social organization and production, for example. By destroying the meaning language (class war, job creation, wealth) and changing the terms under which arguments are held the discussion becomes why one type of fascist looting is preferable to the looted than another.

      Each new synthesis moves steadily to the right so that its opposing antithesis does also.

      There is also the issue of Hegel looking at the movement of BIG events and people through history as opposed to the myriad decisions that created the movement but that's beyond me.

    3. Rotundo_

      If the pendulum swings with sufficient force to snap free from it's moorings it is no longer a pendulum, but a projectile. Houston, we are go with throttle-up to 110% (crackling noise, followed by hiss). We's no longer ridin' on a pendulum, we's a projectile now. All bets on a return to rationality are off from what I can see. Anyone else see a rebirth of common sense happening anytime soon? Anyone? Tap Tap Tap Hello? Anyone? (cue crickets cheeping, optional cicadas).

    4. axmxz

      Sure, if there's still an economy by the time old white angry people start dying off in more serious numbers.

    5. SudsMcKenzie

      ohh totally, Ive talked to the least political people imaginable here in WI, and they all say its over reach. And I know this is true, cause there all drunks in bars.

    6. BlueStateLibel

      According to my sophisticated calculations, that pendulum will be hitting those teatards (and Bluedog Dems, you know who you are) right upside against the head any day soon.

    7. comrad_darkness

      I don't know from Hegel or Hagel, but I do know that it's stunning how incapable this particular lurch to the right is at learning. Willful ignorance seems to be the only right of passage. As such, I'm sure we'll swing back to socially well-balanced at some point, but half the population will have to die of dysentary and Spanish flu before they clue the fuck into the role of government in maintaining society.

    8. Radiotherapy®

      DBB, I heard the bulk of that debate — and it was a civil debate — this afternoon. Walnuts doesn't seem to like the teabaggers too much, but nonetheless, he is still so far right as to be disgusting. That's the problem. The pendulum is broken. The teabag propaganda snapped it quickly when it was starting it's swing from the black man in the White House. This debt ceiling debacle showed the whole discourse is stuck on Right.

    9. user-of-owls

      Hegel or no Hegel, yes DBB, it will snap back. The extremists are loud and extremists always start with an initial advantage due to voter motivation. But once in positions of authority, the great sluggish middle (which contrary to the punditocracy is not becoming any more conservative than it was, which is to say maybe, maybe, mildly conservative) reacts. They get off their rumps and actually vote for reason. This is documented, validated by solid research. Google "support for raising taxes on the wealthy." Then pick your jaw off the table. It's insane…how many, like 19 polls showing majority and super-majority support for that?

      An anecdotal observation might serve better here. My dear old mom, as white and O'Reilly-watching as any of the presumed Tea demographic, voted for Barry. Why? "How could he possibly think that Palin is able to be VP? I can't stand that woman!" And now, as she (New England) and I (Arkansas) suffer through this inhuman heat, she snarked that of course climate change was a conspiracy, "God, what idiots," unprompted by me. Now, it was quite disheartening to me that she threw in the towel ("Doesn't matter what I think, they'll do however they want.") on the current crisis, but she'll vote, by gum. And a whole load of others like her will vote too. The Bags may well shatter the two party system by shattering one side of it: the GOP. Maybe not, but if I was betting, my money would be on yes, they will kill through factionalization the Republican party.

      And, oh…I have a bit more than a minor in Political Science. A doctorate, actually.

      1. FakaktaSouth

        The sheer numbers of people who are now in some kind of need will have to create an atmosphere of "what can I do with my vote to help myself," finally – right? Please say yes. (I have given up on the majority doing things for common good when I hear people "justifying" a poor child's need for healthcare by explaining how it "costs you money" for them to go to the ER, not just, ya know, all kids/people in a civilized society should have access to decent medical care) I believe what you are saying so strongly – that people cannot be so blind, so willing to suffer for an illusion of superiority or vote for a party because they are "lifelong repubs" (or whatever has made so many vote AGAINST their interests) that even now, when they are being negatively impacted BY MORONS that they won't take this more seriously. Government here is a lot about screwing people, but we still (mostly, except maybe now in WI) get to kinda eventually choose not to be screwed and instead represented – we SURELY HAVE to start choosing better SOMEDAY, no?
        Huh. Look at me being all sunny in spite of it all. Oh well. You made me feel better anyway.

  71. Ken Cuccinelli

    By the way, at least one gov't agency is sending out distribution-list emails from cabinet-level secretaries saying their employees are expected at work on Monday. I didn't think that this bullshit might mean I'd get a few unscheduled days off. Thanks, buddy!

    1. Rotundo_

      You will get paid for the day, sooner or later, and the value of the dollars we all are paid in might make them more practical as toilet paper (in the smaller denominations, at least) but fortunately (or not) you'll probably have to show up. I think the folks on Social Security must be getting the most annoyed over all this brinksmanship, but federal employees have to be coming in a close second or third to them. Hang in there…

      1. Ken Cuccinelli

        Well, to be perfectly honest with you I'm a mercenary contractor but somehow I doubt my company will pay me out of the goodness of their heart if the government isn't paying them for my work.

  72. Chet Kincaid

    It's kind of ridiculous that Wonkette doesn't post on the weekends. This weekend of all weekends!

    At the very least, throw up space-marking posts on Saturday and Sunday, to make it easier for commenters to carry on without the last post on Friday growing to 2,000 comments with threads so long they go off the right side of the screen and wrap around to the left, like Pac-Man.

    1. rocktonsam

      will this weekend be any more retarded than the weekend we'll have in six months?

      I'm busy stocking up hobo beans and spotted cow,

    2. rocktonsam

      will this weekend be any less retarded than the weekend we'll have in 6 months?

      i'm too busy stocking up hobo beans and spotted cow.

    3. Rotundo_

      In many ways Chet, I agree, but looking at it from their perspective, they probably need to retreat to a quiet, dark, media free place and rehydrate and try not to completely lose their minds for a couple of days. Look at what happened to Ken Layne. I'll bet he was shooting rainbows out his keister when he started, now it's all about dystopian novels and hobo beans and canned food and shotgun shells. Maybe they need a part-time weekend correspondent to keep us going, and to cover for the daily folks when they need trips to rehab, in-patient psychatric care and all the blowback that has to come from watching this without flinching or blinking.

  73. Chet Kincaid

    It looks like Congress is coalescing around The Avenger Compromise: Samuel L. Jackson is organizing a team of Super-Legislators who will decide before Thanksgiving which limbs get hacked off the government:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/31/super-co

    In a related development, Franklin Roosevelt was unfrozen from a block of ice at the North Pole, was informed about current events, and commented "Be afraid. Be VERY afraid!"

    1. mumbly_joe

      I love the part about how if the plan to massively slash entitlements and do nothing about our historically-low-and-miniscule-relative-to-the-developed-world taxes (i.e, give Republicans 99% of what they want) doesn't work, then we get to… also massively cut spending.

      And apparently the last sticking point is whether that second thing is only 50% things that the Teahadis want to slash, or if it's mostly things the Teahadis want to slash. BIPARTISANSHIP!!!!!!11

      1. weejee

        McTurtle's sense of bipartisanship is to tell Hapless Harry Reid "Here's your sword, now fall on it" while Boehner gives Pelosi a lift to mid-span of the new Wilson Bridge where she ties cinder blocks to her feet and jumps into the Potomac. Repugs assist the suicides of the Demrat leaders of both chamber pots. Byepatisanship at its best.

        Barry meanwhile cooks a nice veggie feast for the family.

        1. mumbly_joe

          Seriously. I mean, the "last sticking point" for Republicans is that they don't like the enforcement mechanism. You know, the part of the deal that would kick in if either party renegs on the plan later and is supposed to be so painful as to encourage every one to play nice? They're upset, because it's designed to also kinda hurt them, the party that invented this "crisis" from whole cloth and has negotiated in bad faith at every juncture since January 2009. Perish the fucking thought.

    2. BlueStateLibel

      Not to worry all, the deal is almost down. Obama and the Dems just have to repeal child-labor laws and meat-packing regulations–at least the latter might cut down on the teatard population, so that's good news there ("Would you care for some rat droppings in your anus burger, sir?")

  74. vulpes82

    You know, it's like it's not anything I didn't know long ago, but for some reason it just never sinks in: the comments sections of political websites other than Wonkette are the most maddening, enraging places on the Internet. It's either conservatives braying about SOCIALIZMENS or liberals screeching about how PROGRESSIVE! they are. In a way, I think the latter irritates me more, just because, like, I agree with those people in a general way, but they make me want to join the Tea Party just out of spite, and I don't like that feeling.

    1. Fukui_sanYesOta

      Heh, I know exactly what you mean. I had to stop reading democratic underground for the reasons you mention. When it comes to starry-eyed idealists who you want to give a slap to to wake 'em up, that place takes the cake.

      For some reason it seems like the comment section of Yahoo is filled with the most vile, illiterate, racist and pig-ignorant scrotes on the entire internet.

      1. vulpes82

        You see, that's the thing, I know NEVER to read Yahoo or newspaper website comments, but I can't seem to resist, say, TPM's comments, which are really nothing more than people yelling, "PROGRESSIVE!" and "OBAMABOT!" and "FIREBAGGER!" at each other all day, every day.

        1. Rotundo_

          Vile, illiterate, racist and pig-ignorant scrotes pretty much describes most of humanity these days. All this glorious work in medical science to prolong life and it comes down to that life being controlled by semi human greedmachines who find suffering and humiliation of those around them light entertainment. Yay. We're number one and all that shit.

  75. ShaveTheWhales

    God's Balls. I've been a party-line Democrat my entire voting life, and I'm beginning to wonder why. What's this? Third time's the charm to give the Republicans everything they could possibly want, and help them not fuck it up?

    A Super-dee-duper Congress where all the fucking Republicans will have to do is stonewall and wait for one "moderate" Dem to crack? What a great idea.

    Can our esteemed leaders not read fucking exit polls? Apparently not. The biggest reason for the carnage in 2010 was not some vast outpouring of Teatards, it was the vast in-staying of the liberals and young folks that provided the push for Bammers in 2008. Why did they not get out and vote? (1) Maybe they're fickle, or they were high, or something. (2) They didn't see any compelling reason why they should. (Pick one).

    Is this legislative excrescence going to provide a compelling reason in 2012? Well, I know what I think. I hope I'm wrong.

    Fuck. I knew this was gonna happen, but I still let my hopes get up. That hope is a fucking drug, you know?

    1. Chet Kincaid

      Probably the 6th time I've posted this over the last year, but Democrats need to campaign as if we have a parliamentary system, and they need to campaign permanently. No election is ever final, and no President has power unless his party effectively controls Congress as well. Re-elect the President AND re-take Congress: it is, and must be sold to the American people as, a package deal.

      And you know what, if the American people reject this, and if Democratic voters stay home, we as the American people deserve what's going to happen to us. I am tired of waiting for the Big Crash — we have been on the precipice of economic disaster since the 70s, and that is all I have heard since my adolescence. As I have also written about 6 times this year, we will learn nothing until it all falls apart around us.

      1. ShaveTheWhales

        I agree with much of what you say, but "Sorry about that, but re-elect the Prez and a super-majority in both houses and then you'll see some action" isn't a very powerful campaign slogan.

        1. Chet Kincaid

          Why not? It's a strategy, not a slogan. Very capable people exist who can make slogans and campaigns out of strategy.

          Would it be better to lie and say "I will accomplish magical things all by myself without legislative support?" and then fail at them?

          Also, I didn't say "super-majority" — simple majorities in both houses would be better than what we have right now, wouldn't it? I would even take a very strong majority in one house over what we have now.

          1. vulpes82

            Well, the problem with the Senate is you can have a super-duper majority and still not be able to do anything, with filibusters and holds and "I don't feel like voting today" procedures.

          2. Chet Kincaid

            That may be.

            I just feel like the 2012 election needs to be positioned as winner-take-all for the legislative and executive branches, if Obama has any grand vision beyond compromising himself into the Republican party, and that he needs to be explicit about gaining the Congress and his mandate back. And on inauguration day, he needs to start campaigning for 2014, to keep it.

      2. Nothingisamiss

        I completely agree. I've been thinking these thoughts, grim and angry for the last..uh, I don't know, long time? Bammer needs to get out and sell the super majorities in both houses and articulate why. I'm so tired of the hope being shit on time after time, while petulant tea tard children hold up western civilization. And I'm also fucking angry at the stay at home dems who think that letting the maniacs run the show giving us global collapse will "teach us a lesson" so that the smoldering ruins will be ours next time. (See: Iraq war, Dick Cheney, Guantanamo, etc. for the good that Ralph Nader brought us.)

  76. rocktonsam

    and all FOX NEWS can muster is Lindsay Graham and David Vitter to sort it all out

    perfect

    1. Rotundo_

      Diaper Dave is a bit of a surprise, but if one gets between Lindsay and a camera, one gets mowed down. I suppose the rest of the senatorial griftercorps are either elsewhere on camera or jetting out of town on Koch or other corporate jets to bask in the afterglow.

  77. cheetojeebus

    I just don't understand why the terrorist wing of the republican party didn't ask for more? they probably would have got it. Why not repeal roe v wade? how about outlaw homosexuality? Why not ask for a lazyboy, a hoveround and free lunch at mickeydees? fuckin idiots. If you're going to hold a gun to grandma's head to get your six-pack why not ask for everything.
    BTW it's not like they didn't say they were going to do this. Why didn't harry and friends plan a better response?
    ARRRGGGGH.

  78. ShaveTheWhales

    I'm going to log off for a while so as not to offend any commenters with intemperate remarks. Good night and good luck.

    1. Chet Kincaid

      Well, enjoy your evening as much as you can. I hope you weren't about to go off on me, since we seem to be the only ones in the bar right now!

  79. Radiotherapy®

    The Bush/Obama tax cuts stand.
    And they will still excoriate the articulate, if ineffectual, President as a tax and spend liberal with a radical socialist agenda who is responsible for this whole mess. They've got goal #1: No tax increase, and now goal #2: defeat Obama, is next.
    And as a bonus: scissors in the social safety net and the military-industrial-socialist complex remains sacrosanct.

    1. Fukui_sanYesOta

      Case in point – redstate today:

      "Historically, the growth of government statism has been irremediable. For every “100 yards” that they have advanced, our most successful counteroffensive has only slowed their rate of advance by a few yards. Now, after 80 years of soft-socialism, and 2 1/2 years of hard-Marxism, if nothing drastic is done, the government will control our healthcare sector, financial sector, and many other large components of our once proud free market. In other words, we are down big in the Super Bowl of socialism."

      Insane people.

  80. Negropolis

    Dear "Job Creators":

    But by the grace of our nominally Democratic president with centrist tendencies have you avoided Apocolypse 2.0. By his grace has are you allowed to keep your gold. Please let this be a realization to you to stop holding this nation hostage by bank rolling the tea party and it's sympathizers. He is the only thing standing nominally in between you and them, and he's barely doing that.

    P.S. If you think Romney is the best choice next year, if you truly believe that he has the balls of the power to keep that flimsy wall between those crazy bastards and your personal wealth and fortune standing, if you believe that they'll protect you after they have completely scaled the city walls, you're fucking idiots. You don't even know how good you have it with Barry. You fuckers better quit undermining the last thin line of defense. The Tea Party zombies are coming for brains. BRAINS.

  81. mumbly_joe

    Honestly, the thing that has me most incensed about the Cut, Capitulate, and Declare Victory deal is the fact that Grover Norquist is happy. I'd be willing to give away the fucking store, if we could just avoid giving Norquist even a single moment of joy.

  82. BarackMyWorld

    Ok…I don't why everyone takes these deals so seriously. It's not like they won't try and undo it when the next budget is due and we'll be right back at square one negotiating again.

  83. Negropolis

    Can the Dems at least start talking about about "job-killing deficit cuts"? It's time to take off the gloves, after this. I want to use the dirtest tricks in the book to make the tea party pay for their rank selfishness.

    1. Radiotherapy®

      Of course, any and all of our economic ills are ALWAYS the result of the Dems (Obama first, and foremost). Did they even put gloves on?!!?? More like cower and wimper. Fucking Walnuts was tougher on these economic tearists than any pussyfart Dem.
      And remember, historically, the Dems have been weak on national security, crime, capitalism, communism, religion, race relations, drugs, guns, the Constitution, corruption, health care, scandals, small business, the troops, corporations, family values, right to work, flag pins, and any other convenient fear the Right can conjure up

  84. Hurricane Ali

    Hey, I'm here in the bar – any commentariats awake to talk about the "deal" that's been effectively okay'd by about three people? Was looking on TPM at Boehner's powerpoint pres on the thing – Ezra Klein says he's wrong on several aspects, in the comments the folks are firebagging all over the place that SS is on the chopping block when it has been exempted, along with military salaries and veterans benefits.

    Even with Boehner's happy-face cut-cap whatever he was talking about in the slideshow, this is a dopey deal and I'm betting Pelosi is going to have a hard time in the house rallying the troops behind it. Any thoughts?

  85. DustBowlBlues

    So, I turned to the Law and Order SVU marathon while I vacuumed, watered the plants we're going to try to save, made a couple of loaves of homemade honey-wheat bread and watched Zen on Masterpiece Mystery. When it was over, I remembered hey, that whole debt ceiling. Wonder what happened to that.

    Turned on CNN, heard "Democrats came out of the meeting claiming the Rs didn't get everything they wanted" and got sick to my stomach. Ate more bread out of nervousness, watched 5 minutes of MSNBC and listening to J. Alter and Richard Wolfe, both looking glum, to get the confirmation. The Democrats bent over the desk in the Oval Office and took one for the sake of the world economy. My only surprise is that Hopey didn't write the 5 or 6 constitutional amendments those assholes technically still have going on slips of paper, put them in a sack and let Boner pick one out of the "president's giveaway grab bag."

    The I read on wonkette that Norquist is basically running around the Capital rotunda crowing like Mary Martin in "Peter Pan."

    And instead of calling this what it was–an extremist faction playing chicken with the world's welfare, Obama will say "Both sides came together" when all the fuck it is, is one side caving to an extremist faction. I keep hearing how he is doing all this shit because he needs the Independent vote. I hope he gets a lot of it, because he's going to need it. I keep hearing the undercurrent in the WH is, where else are the liberals going to go? They're going to vote for a Republican? No, but they may choose to stay home and clean house and make homemade bread.

    1. Nothingisamiss

      Amen, DBB. Except that if the stay at homes stay at home it will piss me off even more. I hate that fucking imminent collapse of western values the tea tards bring to the table, but the only way to even marginally change this is if we vote (knowing what he's done) for Barry and hope for our super-duper majority. Harry Reid will cave, All the "moderate dems" in the senate will fuck us over, but maybe the entire safety net won't go away just as I'm going to need it. (Soon.)

  86. DustBowlBlues

    Oh, and I'm afraid Bill Maher is correct on this one. If they president caves on this one, the Republitards will own him.

    When is the vote? Will someone let us know if Bill Maher is making any appearances on news shows this week? This will make Keith O worth watching on Monday. I wonder if he's frustrated Current doesn't have the mojo to have followed this live. And if hey did, fuck. I missed it.

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