There are only a handful of fairly uncontroversial statements you can make these days, stuff like, “the image of Al Gore making out with someone is gross” and “cancer should have a cure” and “the cruel treatment of children is awful.” Oh wait, except the last one, if you are full of rat testicles like Tea Party Nation leader Rich Swier, who says, hey everyone, God made this thing called “peer pressure” to keep kids in line, and those vicious teenagers who beat up on the gay kids? That’s just “peer pressure” at work keeping kids from acting gay. Hear that, parents? Peer pressure might be responsible for your teenager using drugs and alcohol, stealing, getting pregnant and making the wardrobe choices of a lobotomy victim, but at least it is dissuading your child from acting all homo.
From a post Swier sent to Tea Party Nation members, via RightWingWatch:
This is not bullying. It is peer pressure and is healthy. There are many bad behaviors such as smoking, under age drinking and drug abuse that are behaviors that cannot be condoned. Homosexuality falls into this category. Homosexuality is simply bad behavior that youth see as such and rightly pressure their peers to stop it. In Sarasota County over 70% of all HIV/AIDS cases are due to male sex with males.
I agree with Gulf Coast Gives that “LGBT youth are up to five times more likely to attempt suicide than their straight counterparts”. Homosexuality, like drugs, harms young people if they experement [sic] with it. That is the greatest tragedy.
Whatever, we have no more to say about someone like this. We hope the pictures of him and his rent-boy come out soon, which will just be our new homepage, forever. [RightWingWatch]
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I would be happy if my child came out as gay. I would be livid if my child came out as a tea party member.
I think you can shut down the thread right here. 'Nuff said.
I couldn't say it better myself, Barb. Hear, hear.
I agree. I could not have a family member who was a hateful bigot.
My last relative who I know was a bigot is dead(although I think he just hated the blacks and the browns and the Democrats- he never mentioned the gheys).
Not wanting to reply directly to Noballs, allow me to just say BULLSHIT to what he wrote.
Oh, but he is SO right. I know lots of Bible belt folks who cry about not being tolerated but are also quick to judge. Kind of the polar opposite of that parable that says you're not supposed to point out other people's faults because you're probably worse.
It is bullshit, and seriously stale bullshit as well: Right-wing assholes saying "Hey, you're not respecting my assholery – how intolerant!"
The thing is, we're judging Noheart on the content of his character. And his character sucks ass.
That's not all it sucks.
Those who demand tolerance and respect for diversity the most from others rarely practice the traits themselves.
You fuckin' nailed that world salad, No-man! Better put it on a bumper sticker before you forget…
And then stick the fingers of his typing hand together with the bumper sticker, rendering him unable to troll here.
Have you come over to the light, our Downfisting Troll?
I believe he's already used his two accounts to downfist the entire thread, twice.
He's a fighting keyboard commando!
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Shhhh, he could be doing something "useful" instead, meaning spiteful and hateful for some poor soul out in the real world. Better wasting his time at this.
Noman, that comment had BETTER not be directed at me. I love people of all colors. I become infuriated at anyone who is racist and/or homophobe. Heck, I had two lesbians stand up for me at my wedding in 1980.
I was the mom that all the kids came over to talk to. I took a strong stand against bullying and I was the parent who did something about it.
I was raised in the south in a high school where there were NO black students. I was called a "nigger lover" for being nice to people at football games. I took vicious beatings from my father, all 6 foot 9 inches of him for listening to "nigger music" and I learned to walk away without crying.
There is no reason for you to follow my posts and piss on them. Get a life, a job, a hobby, a hooker, if that is what gives you your ya-yas, but get off my back!
"I love people of all colors."
We love ya right back Barb.
Thanks!
Barb, you are my hero.
*hero hug*
Barb, as someone who barely knew their own Mother and am always so aware of that loss, you almost made me cry, your kids are very lucky.
This will my you smile, my sister Lizzie. My lovely auburn-haired daughter, Christine brought home a young man once and he was half Vietnamese and half Hispanic. They were together for 6 years and I called them "Lucy and Ricky" They broke up and it made me sad. http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/Barb092162...
This sounds strangley familiar to my childhood and I was brought up in Niagara Falls.
I can't upfist both comments you have made in this thread so far enough. I knew I liked this place and the people here for reasons other than the snark.
The further I go in life, the less I tolerant I am of racist/homophobic conservative assholes.The horseshit these enema nozzles preach is abhorrent to anyone with a conscience.
Barb – I love you! Wish you were my neighbor (sorry, the mom slot is taken!) – you would be great for parenting advice.
Thanks Histori, I love you too. Keith Olbermann just announced that Bristol's book only sold 1,400 copies in the last week.
Some of my best, white, casual sex friends were "nigger lovers".
Woe. looky yonder, what canine has wandered back? The Original negative "p" mad dog.
You rock.
Barb, if that comment is directed at you, I'd embrace it like FDR embraced the hatred of the greedy rich who did not want to do their part to get the country out of the Great Depression (doesn't that sound familiar?): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laNbaIiOMg4
I missed all the fun last night! Beautiful comment.
I see we're both member of the "nigger lovers" association. I've been called that several times in my life – and I live in the allegedly libruhl Northeast.
Your daughters are lovely, by the way. Stunning, actually.
Mahatma Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr, should simultaneously rise from their graves and bitchslap the hell out of you.
"Ideological Conservatism: a series of irritable mental gestures which seek to resemble ideas" Lionel Trilling
Seriously Norman do you not understand the difference between sexual preference and a movement based on an irrational/self-serving/reactionary/anti-intellectual fear of change?
Hint: one is a choice and an echo
Ah see whut you done thar.
Barry nice.
(P.S. one is a choice and ONE IS an echo. Fixed.)
At least I try. Especially over the immutable traits of race, gender, sexual orientation and the mutable but protected trait of religion.
I know I have little patience with Christians who think He said "let the market decide". I am certainly intolerant of people who live in the United States of America but think they're in Hell because we democratically passed health insurance reforms.
Hey Everybody, it's the Gimp! Who let you out of the box, Gimp?
FYI, there's no real requirement to tolerate assholes, which may be why you're not tolerated very often.
waaaaah, mean libruls so intolerant of our intolerance . . . .waaaaah
I'll just have to go tie so poor gay kid to a fence to die I feel so hurt. And it will be all the libruls fault, too! so there!!
I don't think that one can reasonably demand tolerance, rather we face each other with an open mind and an open heart in the hope that these feelings will be returned.
I think you mean, "No, man." Or you really mean to say that you are "no man." Maybe you just can't spell "Norman."
Wish you were my Mom.
Everyone in this nation and all over the world should have an honest dialog, like we did here about race and GLBT issues. Thanks everyone!
Comment of the century!
I would be tempted to exert upon a tea party member something more akin to "pier pressure",
Holy Shit, Barb! +243! Highest upfist ever I believe.
So, let's see if I can work out the math here…
Peer pressure, which is GOOD when preventing teh homo urges, is BAD when encouraging drugs and drinking, which can lead to sex (homo or no homo), which is, uh… what were we talking about again?
Replace that third comma with a period. Stop right there. Do not think.
See how easy it is to be a scum/douche/tea bagger?
I don't think you quite understand. I believe what he is saying is that peer pressure is a positive socializing force. Peer pressure prevents kids from drinking and doing drugs and having stupid hair, just like it prevents them from mispoking. You obviously don't understand how peer pressure works.
Fuckin' friends, how do they work?
This guy must jerk off every time one of the kids in Glee gets a slurpee in the face.
fantasy and projection are fundamental to libunacy
Fantasy and projection are the lifeblood of conservative fuckwits, actually.
I like your portmanteau word.
Careful, the pack will turn on you!
Everyone using silly words should be treated politely.
We know your fantasy is be the pivot man in a circle jerk, and probably a fantasy you live out at the local pickle park on a regular basis.
He will even bring the saltines.
The nice thing about making up your own words is you get to define them however you want to.
Like "economic stimulus" means making the economy worse and "job stimulus" means increasing unemployment.
Unemployment rate since Dems took Congress
Do these people think before saying things in public or is it just verbal diarrhea all the time?
They see it as some kind of Badge Of Honor to say the most stupid shit they can imagine.
Think? No, that doesn't qualify as thinking at any time.
Do these people think?
/fixed
Both
Wait, I thought it was peer pressure that was turning them all gay to begin with. Now it stops them, too? Truly, peer pressure is a fickle mistress.
Truly, peer pressure is a
fickle mistresscock tease./fixed
Peer pressure is ac/dc.
Funny thing about peer group pressure. When I was 16 and 17, some of my friends were really pressuring me into getting high with them. I was all, nuh-uh, because they acted like a bunch of idiots when stoned. Then when I was 18, I met this girl who wanted to "turn me on" and I was all "HELL, YES."
Rich Swier had the same experience, but it was with an older gentleman.
It was peer pressure what led to experimentation. We all like to experiment with new things. Rich Swier experimented with homosexuality, but luckily peer pressure kept him straight, no matter how many times he experiments!
So peer pressure os OK if it means humiliating and physicaly harming another child, as long as it is done in the name of heterosexuality. And it is the homosexual feelings that make gay teens commit suicide, not the mocking and the beatings. Jesus fucking christ on a pogo stick how do these people sleep at night?
If one is so blindly stupid to *not* realize the consequences of shit like this, I am sure one would have no troubles falling asleep at all. Ignorance is bliss, and this guy is full of both. No guilt, no weight of conscience burdening his fat shoulders, no doubts troubling his teeny tiny wee little mind.
"No greater love hath a man than he harasses, humiliates and insults another man into conforming to society's mores, no matter how arbitrary or unsuitable."
'Truly I tell you, whatever you did to one of the least of these gays, you did for me.’
—Masculine Jeebus
Not that I would ever want to peer into their bedrooms (slight vomit) at night, but I suspect they sleep the same way they get through the day – with their head up their ass.
Alright, maybe a dildo and their head up their ass. Also.
How do these people sleep at night? Their rent boys know how to make them relax.
"how do these people sleep at night? "
With a bottle of hand lotion on the night stand and a Sarah Palin action figure crammed up their butts.
Shorter Rich Swier: if you come between a teen and his closet, the terrorists have won.
Some people like this shitdouche think it should be perfectly OK to beat up gay kids simply for being gay, and yet the moronic fuck thinks that the higher suicide rate among gay kids means homosexuality is harmful, and not evil homophobes like him?
Mr. Sweir, please do the world a favor and jump off the Golden Gate Bridge.
I'd give him a push
From behind?
Please, not the Golden Gate. They've installed anti-suicide nets and sometimes people live. How about whatever the Sears Tower is know called? Or better yet, a building in Oman or Dubai or some other place that isn't a hippie haven?
A few swan dives off that Dubai tower aught to do wonders for their tourist industry.
I figured the Golden Gate would be particularly appropriate because it's in San Francisco,
Hey, there are people sailing down there.
Advise him to drink some rat poison, okay?
Have him inhale a large canister of carbon dioxide. I mean, what's the harm? Like Michele the Congressional scientist says, "Carbon dioxide is neaaaatural".
I wish I could award extra p in honor of you skewering TWO tea-bagging demons in one short post. Huzzah!
I'd personally suggest peer pressure. Actually, pier pressure. As in, he should talk a long walk off of a short one.
Hey! San Franciscans don't want that creep mussing up their beautiful bay. Let him off himself in a red state way, like drowning in an oil spill…
or just ignore him and go all gay agenda his grandkids..
yeah muthafucka there IS a gay agenda and – as tommcatt reminded us earlier – the mo's hold the keys.
Remind me again how the Tea Bag Party is about freedom and not hate.
Also, they're all about the economy and the taxes, not social issues. Oh, and they're not racist either. (P.S.)
it stands for
Taxed
Enough
Already
In case that helps.
And yet they desperately hate the president who lowered 98% of people's income taxes. It's almost as if what they're really worked up about is something else, isn't it?
Well, he's another one who deserves bullying … for choosing to be bi-racial and from the foreign country of Hawaii, doncha know.
"It's almost as if what they're really worked up about is something else, isn't it?"
Or like they're trying desperately to overcompensate for something.
Even though half of them don't even pay income taxes or think the ones they do pay are fair.
…I tried thinking of something funny to go with it, but I can't right now. Not with the anger inside.
ZOMG EDIT: Huh? I hit zero? That must mean I have a fan! /swoon…
No, just a wormy troll. We are all short one P at the end of the day.
As the confederate flag defenders like to say, "heritage not hate."
Yeah, I don't buy it either.
ha, nice try asshole. everyone peer pressures you to shut the hell up, and yet you just keep pooping right out of your mouth. doesn't work! you were born an asshole and it can't be cured!
I don't think the people pressuring him to STFU are his peers. They are a much higher class of human.
This is the same mofo who wrote "The White Anglo-Saxon Protestant (WASP) population in America is headed for extinction and with it our economy, well-being and survival as a uniquely America culture."
Looking at his picture and reading his bulls@#$, I think we have a better evolutionary understanding of why his gang is becoming extinct.
"This is the same mofo who wrote "The White Anglo-Saxon Protestant (WASP) population in America is headed for extinction and with it our economy, well-being and survival as a uniquely America culture.""
Well, I'm white, Irish, and Catholic (WIC? WICcan? Hmm.) So am I considered a part of the WASP population? Anyway, if he is a representative sample of the WASP culture, good riddance and may the door hit you in your big, fat, blobbity, white ass on the way out.
WASP = white Anglo-Saxon Protestant. Note that like every other racial distinction it is stupid, since all Anglo-Saxons are white. Might as well extend the acronym to WASPPBBP, which would mean "white, Anglo-Saxon Protestant poor basketball player."
The problem was that some Irish, Scotts, and Welsh were Protestant.
The requirement of being white kept them out of the WASP clubs.
(You better not think I'm making this shit up!)
It’s not easy to be racist! There are rules’n’shit!
No. Papacy is un-American, although Jesus turns a blind cheek to some earthly tactical alliances.
I kind of thought that was how it worked. If the Irish and the Catholic wasn't enough to keep me out of the club, the female and poor probably would.
So! If all the WASPs are booted out, I can stay?
Female? Sorry sweet-cheeks – you're property. We'll let you know where you should go and what you'll be doing. Now get into the kitchen and whip up a little sumthin' for the menfolk.
I'm a White Scandanavian Pagan, where do I fit in?
Freakin' Anglo-Saxons, only good for one thing: Ruining continents.
So… it's true, though, right? WASPs are on the way out, yes?
"The White Anglo-Saxon Protestant (WASP) population in America is headed for extinction and with it our economy, well-being and survival as a uniquely America culture."
What a great, big, steaming pile of bullshit.
Even back in the "good old days" of this asscake's fantasy — you know, when the darkies and the wimmenfolk knew their place and the queers didn't exist — WASPs were a minority.
The only difference is that now they only run the show 90% of the time instead of 99.9999%, and they're all butthurt about it.
Rich Swier has stupid hair, stupid face, no one likes him, not even the teachers and they have to like him. How many boyfriends does your mom have, Richy. A lot?
Are we cyber-bullying now? AWESOME.
Barbara Bush has really let herself go.
That's the Wonkette spirit!
Ha! I knew everyone would comment about what a dick this guy was. I decided to go another way. That's just the way I roll!
Tea Party Nation leader Rich Swier
What A Dick!
P.S. "Tea Party Nation" my ass. Racist Teabagger Shitheads Who Wake This Country Worse™.
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Wow, he actually tried to twist the suicide statistic to mean that there isn't enough bullying.
Whisky Tango Foxtrot.
It's the social equivalent of tax cuts.
I'm honestly snarkless; the fact that someone feels it's OK to vent their puny hatred publicly like this proves "peer pressure" can't force decent behavior.
The only behavior that peer pressure forces is behavior that is popular or "cool".
He's jealous. He needs some of that sweet cream; but can't bring himself to his knees to fulfill his naughty side by tossing some naughty bits.
Beating up faggots? Pshaw. Just go ahead and kill 'em all.
I wish someone would peer pressure a "dangerous loner" into smacking this shithead in the face with a baseball bat.
So, bets on how long until we find him playing strip poker with Larry Craig and George Rekers?
I'd be satisfied with someone shoving his head into a toilet bowl and giving him a swirlie. Or maybe a good pantsing.
The Court finds the defendant, one Richard Swier, guilty on all counts, including but not limited to Logic Failure, Homophobia, Fear Mongering, and Incitement of Violence. The Court thereby sentences the guilty party to death by strap-on.
Thus is the judgement of the Court of Armored Bore. May history be kinder than We.
*GAVEL GAVEL*
Agreed. A little peir pressure. Someone should hire some Hot Cops to teach these gays a lesson
Someone should push Sweir off a short pier.
I'd say, let's all figure out how to use peer pressure to get Tea Partiers to off themselves, except for the obvious problem that they are not our peers.
People don't choose to be gay any more than they choose to be hetero. However they do choose to be Tea Party fuckheads, a case of consciously deciding to be evil and create hatred and malevolence in the world.
You want to ask Swier, "At what age did you decide to be straight? Were you afraid the jocks would beat you up if you played badminton too well?"
And, unlike gay people, Teabaggers actually are trying to force us all into teabagging.
Dick can suck my dick.
How 'bout a gang of gay toughies bully this shitnozzle around for a decade or two? Ya 'think he'll say it's A-OK?
If not for peer pressure, Dick Swier would be knuckle deep in Santorum right now.
Honestly, I can't really get seriously worked up about fucknozzles like this. I just hope that when Mr. Swier's son/daughter/niece/nephew/cousin/best friend decides to kick open the closet door, he/she does it with enough force to knock Swier's nuts back in to his lower intestine.
By the looks of that cactus wart, I'd venture to say he's gay. "Not that there's anything wrong with that."
Or we could set it in South America : "Cape Horny: Ass Ambassadors 2"
Is the alt text implying a future luggage handling scandal? If so, I am in complete concurrence with the alt text.
Yes, I was a bit baffled by the alt-text myself. My best guess is that the right-hand photo might be off the guy who hired someone off RentBoy.com to purportedly carry his luggage on an overseas trip.
Nailed it! Uh – so to speak.
I think it's that guy from California who went to Uganda to "advise" on that country's anti-homosexuality laws (which he denies, IIRC), then was caught with a rent boy.
Peer pressure is the only thing that can possibly keep people in this soul-sucking organization. So it's gotta be bad.
So speaking of peer pressure, last night my son explained how his school sponsored young Communists club hunted down the few open conservative students. His account of the elaborate hazing went on and on. Oh how we laughed at the good fun had by most.
I hope that is a private school. I would hate to think my tax dollars were being wasted on young Communists that merely hazed conservatives, rather than stringing them up as the object lessons they so richly deserve to be.
I believe Freud called this "Latent Homosexuality."
(And If not, I have some Wikipedia editin' to do!)
I remember seeing a public service poster in Greenwich Village in the 80s. It ran something like "if you spend your time wandering around gay neighborhoods looking for people to beat up, there's a name for you: 'Latent Homosexual.'"
Never forgot that one.
It's hard to concentrate on reading about this guy with my gaydar clanging so loud.
You evil, evil, hateful pusbag. I hope that when you die, Jesus and Satan have a great time bitchslapping you back and forth from heaven to hell for every child you have made suffer, until finally sending you all the way to hell for eternity.
Where he will be pounded in the ass by Joe McCarthy, while being mouth-raped by Jerry Falwell. Then, Joe McCarthy will pull his dick out of this guy's ass and immediately stick it in his mouth while Falwell buggers him. This will continue for eternity, pausing only for Jerry and Joe to repeatedly switch positions.
Don't forget to do so in arctic temperatures to add that extra bit of injury and insult.
or 110 degree heat.
on freshly resurfaced asphalt
Or with his parents watching since they raised this cruel freak.
Sounds like T-P asshole was a bully himself back in the day, and has fond memories thereof. Ew. Just–ew.
needs moar mitch mcconnell turtleface.
Nobody needs more of that vile- visaged little fuck.
Swier's post is some pretty funny shit…if you are Tracy Morgan.
Die fucker, die.
typical violent rhetoric
Typical of what? Someone whose children have been threatened? Yeah, you're right about that.
typical nonsensical response to allegedly violent rhetoric.
I just deleted a long, well thought out reply simply because you are a cunt. A miserable, swollen labia of a human being.
You're fucking welcome, cunt.
Yeah, self-defense is a typical response to being threatened with violence.
If you don't like it, stop supporting irrationally violent thugs.
As a teabagger, he is not taking a stance on social issue…..
Oh, it's a pretty wide stance he's taking…..
Yeah, he does know that peer pressure is generally directed towards doing things that are considered bad, and not discouraging them?
Fellowship of Christian Athletes are basically a fellowship of queeny queers always sashaying their gay hippie "Jesus loves you!" bullshit in everyone's face. FCA is so gay they should call themselves FAG: Fellowship of Anal Gayness.
Perhaps he graduated from Mr. (or it is "Dr.?") "Pray to cure the gay" Bachmann's clinic.
I think its 'Miss".
"Miss Thing," actually.
I remember when I was in college and the two women in the dorm room across from me would engage in bad behavior. I didn't condone it so much that I kept the lights out in my room so that they couldn't see me not condoning it with my binoculars every night.
Well as Anti-Flag puts it in the song Right to Choose
"You Wave your flag
Tell me I'm free
Then use the word fag
To fuck with me!"
There are only a handful of fairly uncontroversial statements you can make these days, stuff like … “cancer should have a cure”
Typical Wonkette communism, trying to put hard-working oncologists out of a job.
Those oncologists will have nothing to worry about — while everyone agrees "cancer should have a cure", Republicans will surely cut cancer research funding to "pay for" tax cuts (i.e., just for the hell of it, and throw in some tax cuts).
My dad doesn't care much for children, and told me that he'd much rather I come home and tell him that I was gay than come home and tell him I was bringing him a grandchild. As it turned out, neither ever happened. But it was a weird upbringing, nonetheless.
well, you could have been gay and brought home kids.
"It is peer pressure and is healthy. There are many bad behaviors such as smoking, under age drinking and drug abuse that are behaviors that cannot be condoned."
He left out unmarried sex. I was also peer pressured eventually into sexing. (and drugs, drinking, smoking) I am not complaining, it was fun. And my peers condoned them heartily!
I don't think this lard bucket comprehends what peer pressure is, or what bullying is. They are polar opposites. One pulls you in, the other pushes you away. I think this guy needs to be glitter bricked.
That's odd, he kinda looks like a Barney Frank doppelganger.
Oh fuck, do I even want to read this?
You're probably better off breaking out your old copy of "Wonderfulness" and giving it a listen, Chet. Chicken Heart kicks ass.
Bumpump. Bumpump!
Another fave: Go-Karts
nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh NAAAAH
nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh NAAAAH
900 COP CARS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HILL!
They're kids out here stealing baby coach wheels.
You know, this kind of thing would be a lot more amusing if those gay kids had guns.
Say, a double barrel 8 Gauge boat gun like Evert was carrying around in "Appoloosa."
Amazing how the fun goes out of ragging on homos when you're looking into what appears to be double train tunnels . . .
Just sayin'
Neilist "Tom Selleck" Quigley
"I'm A Fag — In The N.R.A."
[That's "fag" as in "cigarette," you Communist Liberal Pinko Skum.]
Oh, great. Another bigot who gets to dress his bigotry up as "principle".
Oh, and this fat turd is gayer than I am.
That attitude made him the rugged, closeted bully he is today.
You know, when ever I light up a cigarette, drop acid, or blow a guy, I wish there had been a little more peer pressure in my life.
Hahahahahahahahahaha!
Our oldest granddaughter just introduced her new partner and both gals are loved – lots!
My guess is that her dad, a lean 6'-4", & her three uncles would like to discuss non bullying peer pressure with ol Rich Swier. Perhaps Mr. Swier would like to join them climbing Mt. Rainier?
My guess is that Rich Swire would decline such discussion like a prison bitch.
You know, once upon a time, Bullying was kinda cool.
*sigh*
Yes, and ol' Bully set aside places like Mt. Rainier (see above). Perhaps Mr. Swier would like to see if a glacial crevasse might bring his position on bullying into focus.
Time to add another hate-filled syringe of viciousness to their "platform":
Homocide by Proxy
You know what they say: Boys will be boys!
Oh those kids and their games…It's good for them to go out and blow off a little steam. And harder to do since everybody gets so mad if you lynch a nigger these days. It's all that damn political correctness. It's ruining everything!
Damn straight. And don't get me started on why why we can't call a spade a spade, or a nigger. Same with the fucking Chinks, Hebes, Wops, Micks, Polacks and Spics.
Seriously, what's a real American supposed to do?
–Geronimo via Wilma Mankiller
Needs more kikes, also possibly dagoes.
nicely done.
My peers pressured me not to drink, but I wouldn't listen! What the fuck high school did this douchebag go to?
I thought the Tea Party was all about excessive taxation. I guess they've expanded their vision and further narrowed their minds.
Some one needs to peer pressure Rich Swier right square in the nuts.
over to you mr. savage.
and i must add: 'rich swier' is ripe with possibilities…
"rich swine?" a good republican name.
He's have more credibility if the words "male sex with males" didn't cause an effusion of scalding hot precum to immediately gush down his thighs.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that it has been a long, long time since Mr. Teabag Macho's poor shriveled little penis felt the unpayed touch of a mans hand or lip. (I offer this as an explanation not as an excuse.)
There are two things I can't stand: people who have no tolerance for other people's culture, and the Dutch.
That's Dutch libel!
OK, it's not. But when else am I going to get to use that?
And my ancestors would be pissed if I didn't object at least a little.
Histori, you're a Dutch treat!
No, wait, that didn't come out right.
Better than being a Double Dutch Rudder.
Which is not gay, since no swords are touching, nor is one's hand touching the other's sword.
To tell a family secret, my grandmother is Dutch.
The National Lampoon warned us about the Dutch Menace back in 1974. Sadly, the original is no longer online, but some kind soul scanned in the visuals and typed up the text here: http://dutchconspiracy.blogspot.com/ It loses something without the hastily-mimeographed look of the original.
As a teenager, I experimented with being African-American, but the guys on the varsity football team took time out from their busy schedule to apply the necessary peer pressure required to convince me to become authentically Caucasian. I believe I can attribute my long, prosperous and healthy life in large part to that decision.
We actually heaped tons of scorn and derision on the Mormon kids growing up – got one to switch over to the dark side, honestly – this is 1996 – if anyone messed with the gays they had to deal with half the school football team who supported their openly gay team mates. It is harder being Christian than anything else in school these days, at least up here in PDX.
Fred Phelps agrees.
But I thought the "real" Christians thought Mormons weren't Christian. Doesn't matter at all to me- I am Jewish
I can say, without fear of contradiction, that I have smoked, done drugs, got drunk while under-age, had sex with men and women of all races , creeds and colours, shop-lifted, been in gang fights and have probably led a better and more caring life than this fat fuck.
Have you heard this little gem, from Michele's husband?
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/06/29/bachmanns-h...
"They need to be disciplined," he said.
Oh, the Snark is calling me, but it's been a long day.
And don't forget, as gay as the day is long.
Genius.
The Tim Tebow Story?
Sorry, wrong continent.
HA!
I'm proud to say that my two daughters, 21 and 24, are very liberal. One works as a fundraiser for progressive causes, and the other, (who thinks she's apolitical), actually kicked a guy out her house for obnoxiously supporting Prop 8.
However, I share this fear, and worry that they could be seduced by a "stealth conservative."
Both my daughers are liberal and both think their uncle who is a conservative d-bag is an asshole for what he thinks. I do worry about them being coverted to the darkside.
You have two daughters, too? mine are 28 and 29, both nurses, both married to attorneys. They don't take idiots lightly.
Good to know.
I love that they don't take idiots lightly.
Gee, I wonder where they got that?
I've got boys, 18 and 15, atheist, funny, music I listen to, eclectic, recycling, momma-loving, dog-hugging, polite, Bukowski-reading, tolerant, Appalachia-Native-European AMERICANS.
Fiercely independent, they respect and look forward to the 4th, and despise 9/11 for what it's worth.
Thanks for destroying Noman, Barb, henceforth, I'll cut and paste your comment to anything he/she/it has to say.
"You have two daughters, too? mine are 28 and 29, both nurses, both married to attorneys. They don't take idiots lightly."
They take them heavily?
Mine are sons, (straight) 28 and 25. And I am so totally down with arranged marriages for them–arranged by me, that is. So all you folks with daughters?
I will take one 25 year old for my daughter. Is he good with tools? Will he tolerate that she does have a faith?
Actually she has a BF. Seems happy.
The Spare is an Unclaimed Treasure, a real gem. Great choice. And he is terrifically tolerant. So-so with tools, but learning.
He was pressured as a child to play "just the tip."
I'd like to introduce Rick to a concept I call PIER PRESSURE. As in: Long Walk off of a Short One. I use a Louisville Slugger, to speed things along.
No, no…mustn't help him out of the water. Helping risks Moral Hazard and leads to Socialism. It'll be good for him to pull himself up by his own bootstraps, like the Founding Fathers did.
Bullies don't just pick on affirmed gays, but pretty much anyone who is capable of being victimized. Is Swier cool with this, or would he reserve bullying for the out gays, and encourage (platonic) male bonding/encouragement for the merely wimpy? Because the former is fucked up, the latter is fucked up too but also deeply unrealistic.
I'm guessing the former: First, you wanna pressure the young'uns not just out of being gay but appearing gay. After all, getting a little boy nookie in secret – in a closet, for example – is okay as long as no one gets to where they THINK it's okay.
But more important, you don't just wanna pressure the gay out of 'em: ANY kind of non-conformity leads to Amurka being less shiny and happy. You let scrawny kids read or do artistic stuff instead of playing football or beating up on people different from themselves, and they'll grow up not thinking what they're told. And that leads to Islamist Marxist-Nazism.
I wasn't aware that peer pressure involved threatening people with violence.
Hey Proud, Sweetie. I am 5'10" and everyone in my family is tall, except for my daughter, Christine.
Pfft, I'm 5' 6", and I was going to ask you to marry me until I found out you were only 5' 10". Luv the tall women – 6 feet or GTFO!
One of my girlfriends from college is a 6'1" tall blonde lawyer, and her sister is a 6'3" blonde athlete. Girl was smart enough to use her height for a successful career as a volleyball player.
Posing like Snow White, holding my hand to my shoulder, "you have to be THIS tall to get on this ride" LOL, just kidding!
OK, MrLimeyLizzie is 6'4", his twin daughters are both about 5"10" and his first ex-wife, mother of the children, is 5'9, when one of the daughters married she had a crazy carnival/circus themed wedding and we all had to wear colourful and inventive outfits , of our own choosing. I was discussing this with MrLimeyLizzie and pondering on what to wear and how insane I would look in the wedding photos,next to these Amazons ,being a smidge under 5'4", with nary a pause he turned to me and said "It's a carnival,you could go as a midget".
One could get an entire season arc of "Curb Your Enthusiasm" out of your post!
It was a very zany wedding! The groom is only 5'6", so he and I looked like children in the midst of all these tall types, plus MrLimeyLizzie had the greensmen from Universal Studios bring masses of plants to put in the garden , Jack designed the whole event and the daughter who was getting married is a food stylist so it was quite something.
I am right now less than 5'5" but if my spine were straight I'd be 5'11". My gorgeous daughters are 5'10"
Jamesons and Guiness for all.
We need to score some of this so-called "homosexuality" here in Santa Fe tonight 'cause we're watching the Los Alamos fire out the back window while we recruit the young uns. We need to smoke the "homosexuality" so we can convert the young uns and pervert them.
Yours,
Handsome Dick Manitoba
Noman, that comment had BETTER not be directed at me. I love people of all colors. I become infuriated at anyone who is racist and/or homophobe. Heck, I had two lesbians stand up for me at my wedding in 1980.
I was the mom that all the kids came over to talk to. I took a strong stand against bullying and I was the parent who did something about it.
I was raised in the south in a high school where there were NO black students. I was called a "nigger lover" for being nice to people at football games. I took vicious beatings from my father, all 6 foot 9 inches of him for listening to "nigger music" and I learned to walk away without crying.
There is no reason for you to follow my posts and piss on them. Get a life, a job, a hobby, a hooker, if that is what gives you your ya-yas, but get off my back!
10 bucks says Mr Swier got a swirly every day in high school.
I do wish you'd provide some actual, y'know, proof of this. Maybe cite some examples? I see lots of people on here saying Swier is being a turd for encouraging kids to beat up other kids, I don't see anyone on here saying he should be beaten for his religious/political beliefs. Certainly not Barb, at whom you directed your original moan.
Also, that whole "look ma, I'm so clever that I ran together two words beginning with L in order to make a truly DEVASTATING point about people I don't like!" thing gets very boring very quickly. In terms of wit it's not exactly Oscar Wilde. But then I suspect the average tea party fruitcake thinks Wilde was an "unhealthy bigot" who deserved everything he got WRT Reading Gaol.
One of my junior high students — we'll call him Craig — came out to me earlier this year. After he told me, his plan was to tell his parents and his friends. Fortunately, I work in a caring and accepting school, but my administration and I were still prepared for this young man to get shit from his friends.
And what happened? Well, nothing. He told the other kids, and their reaction was, basically, "So?" A few of the boys came to me and asked, "Well, what if Craig has a crush on me?" I explained that, just because Craig had told them he was gay, nothing had changed. He was still the same Craig today that he had been yesterday—they just knew something about him now that they hadn't known then.
At the end of the year, I happened to walk past a group of boys and girls sitting outside on the grass near the curb. As I neared the group, I heard one of the boys — a manly "lax bro" type — ask Craig, "So, Craig, I'm curious: I know what makes me think a girl is hot. What makes you think a boy is hot?" I almost stopped and said something until I realized that the question was an honest one. Craig's friend wasn't trying to be mean; he just wanted to know. As I walked away, I heard Craig start talking to the mixed group about "six packs" and "Justin Bieber hair," and all the kids were nodding their heads, understanding that really, in the end, it was all going to be okay.
That is a great story and gives me hope that these fearmongering shitballs (such as the subject of this here wonkette story) are just going to die out. Half of these rabidly anti-gay toolboxes are simply closeted anyway.
Sound like the kids are all right. Never knew what that meant before but now I do. Old people on the other hand are just as screwed up as they've always been.
wow that's one of the few things i've heard recently that makes me think we're actually going to be ok.
You just made me get close to sheding a tear. Not something one does on the Wonkette Website. But, thanks!
This is one of the best stories I've read in a long time and it gives me hope that maybe, just maybe, Civil Society can outlast these awful people.
I can't thank you enough for posting this for us.
Oh, sweet fucking Christ, could you, like, warn a motherfucker?
You do mean mentally, of course.
It's healthy! Like jogging, or taking a multivitamin.
I could reply in my own words, but this says it best:
Everyone Is Now Dumber – Billy Madison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7w64fbqYQY
Peer pressure (i.e., hitting and pushing nancy-boys into the lockers) may be Real America's only remaining option in the war against the militant gay agenda of destroying marriage. As long as we honor the conservative principals of judicial strangling of "bytchez" our Republic shall endure.
A toast to my Irish buddy, and count me in on the bullying of tea – party idiots!
Too bad this fucker does not live in Tennessee. There, he would not be able to use the word gay, hence he would have to shut the fuck up.
I believe you're misreading him. I think what he's saying is that peer pressure stops kids from being gay just like it stops them from smoking, drinking and taking drugs. Yes, peer pressure is against those uncondonable things. On Mars.
Once again, government so small it can fit in your bedroom.
And in other small/tight places where it shouldn't be…
I am soooooo stealing that line.
Won't these vile fuckers just die already? I mean just cold up and die, alone, in some backalley in the middle of a snowstorm or heatwave?
I'm a nice guy, really. I'm a live-and-let live kind of guy. It's takes A LOT to offend me personally. But, I refuse to tolerate this kind of intolerance against specific groups of people because of how they were born. I pray everyday that there really is a hell for people who willfully make it hell on earth for other people every day of their lives.
How much much you have to hate yourself (whether you're concious of it or not) to expend so much of your living days hating someone else for something they can't and shouldn't change? I guess it's why I'm a liberal; I actually can not understand how someone like this is able to live and function in polite society.
Does Andy Breitbart or our troll strike you as folks that can live and function in polite society?
No, but the problem is that they do. There are virtually no consequences for choosing to live this way. You still get served in restaurants, no one confronts you in your church of neighborhood about this vile shit, either because they agree with you, or they are too afraid to break a friendship, their small children still think the world of them, because they are still their mom or dad….
Things simply aren't happening fast enough. We need a Brown vs. Board of Education or some new civil rights act, and we need it, now. We need to start a new era, now. Things are changing on the ground, right now, and we need some branch of the government to at least symbolically recognize it. I'm talking on immigration, gay rights, drug war, etc…time to stop all this bullshit talking point about "evolving". It's already happened. Do the right thing. Bringing everyone into society and the economy, and do it NOW.
Wait, where am I? I just had a blackout hippy rant, didn't I?
I would have thought the 14th Amendment settled most of the issues about gay prejudice, just like it should have about racial prejudice. Unless I missed some "equal protection except for folks we dislike" somewhere.
My life these days is one long blackout hippy rant. FWIW, I totally agree.
i think it is getting better – i don't mean the repubs or anything to do with politics or political ideology – but people who have to live with people. just look at wordsalad's story above.
i am a 40 something faghag (see also: diva, liberal) and i can see the difference b/t even left-leaning theatre (CA. 1992) and my wasp parents (CA. 2011). and at this point, my parents are the more progressive voice.
it's incremental, but it's happening.
that being said: yeah that dude should die in a particularly inglorious way.
It wasn't my intent to imply that things aren't changing. In fact, it was my point to state that things have changed drastically. It's time for government to recognize and validate the changes that have happened rapidly on the ground…you know, the ones that have happened without – and often even in spite of – them, particularly when we have a Democratic president, and one who if he isn't a liberal, portrayed himself as sympathizing with that wing of the party.
It's like what happened during the original civil rights movement. The nation had been changing for years before Johnson got around to validating what had already changed on the ground. I'd like to encourage our powers to start getting behind these issues sooner.
But it is frustrating when "people who live with people" remain uninvolved while evangelical jihadists, fascists, oligarchs, homophobes, xenophobes and misogynists take over the controls of government at the state and local level.
Unlike, say, clinging to a faux-highbrow voice yet excreting infantile spew like "libunatics" & embracing perpetual spite toward everyone not like you as an ideology?
HUMBLE TROLL IS VERY HUMBLE.
"infantile spew"
aka "wonketteese"
Rationalizing asshole is rationalizing.
This fine upstanding Patriot needs to test his self-reliance index.
I would suggest that he get a one-way ticket to Sudan so he can find out what REAL Free Market "peer-pressure" feels like, up close & personal.
wow, an endless series of upfists! does this make me a librul ditto-head??
This is a good example of why the Tea Party is nothing but a bunch of Right-Wing Christian evangelical turds. You know the drill; every time they're interviewed on TV, they spout the we're just for lower taxes and against Government waste bull shit. They remind of those Intelligent Design liars.
Apparently you can't be against butt-sex without sounding like a butt-hole.
Sounds like a fuckwad whose kid would be arrested after one of those fraternity hazing incidents where they get drunk and sodomize a kid with a pool cue.
Let's go to this comedy well….
He looks pretty weird himself. Is there some rule that T-tards have to have weird hair? Like the one that says they have to mis-spell?
According to the Fat Turtle's logic, knocking the stupid from a Teabagger's skull with a shovel is an acceptable method to right society.
Got it.
And they'll get it too.
"This is not bullying. It is peer pressure and is healthy. There are many bad behaviors such as smoking, under age drinking and drug abuse that are behaviors that cannot be condoned. Homosexuality falls into this category. Homosexuality is simply bad behavior that youth see as such and rightly pressure their peers to stop it."
So… if I'm reading this correctly, it's also cool for people to gang up and beat on someone who's smoking? This guy is full of interesting rules.
Presumably, pointing out that you plainly don't know what "bigotry" means makes me a bigot.
And that's assuming his unreferenced statistic isn't total bullshit to begin with.
Total Bullshit? You mean "Not Intended To Be A Factual Statement."
Nowadays, this can be used without qualm or repercussion anymore. Feel free to embellish publicly! *
*As long as you are aligned with the ideology of Wingnut-Koch Industries, you will never suffer any sort of media scrutiny.
Tea Party folks, just keep pandering to your base as your base dwindles to a toothless paranoid schizophrenic in Ozark, Ms, three days after his last thorazine ran out.
Don't these people watch Glee?
What is wrong with them?
Well shoot I was just about to suggest rounding up a posse for just such a thing. Though looking at him we might want a bigger car or truck. Assholes need beatings.
Oh, Christ. These people aren't going away are they.
So is he going to do a video called "It Gets Worse?"
Counterintuitive teatard thinking.
1. Peer pressure leads kids to smoke, drink and have premarital sex.
2. Peer pressure is just kids telling other kids not to do bad stuff.
3. Therefore, homosexuality is bad.
4. (But smoking, drinking and premarital sex is okay?)
The cognitive dissonance is deafening.
Spoke with this guy yesterday… He of course thinks that homosexuality is a choice, and unnatural. I asked him when did he decide to be heterosexual. He wouldn't answer my question, saying I was asking the wrong one. He obviously realizes that if he admits that homosexuality is natural, then his argument falls apart. So by default this guy must make an active decision about whom he has sex with. Be it male or female. He then went on to tell me that I had no right shoving my ideas down his throat and wanting him to comply… Apparently, he has no idea what the term hypocrite means.
If it wasn't for threatened violence (or actual violence) this poor fat shit's ideology wouldn't have any chance of ever finding its way into someone's mind. He knows it. They ALL know it. Without fear, they can't influence anyone.
There's so much intentional misdirection in his statement, it would be breathtaking if not for our times, when we have a media that is interested in a balance only based on quantity, not actual quality of ideas. Our times, when someone can say "that's not intended to be a factual statement" and NOT get run out of town on a rail clutching his bruised massively-kicked ass cheeks.
He means "bullying" but he chooses to try some conceptual sleight-of-hand and morph it into some kind of positive "peer pressure." Positive peer pressure? That shit is rarer than a teabagger without a blubber problem. Does it even exist outside of fiction or Public Service Announcements?
These fucks have shown that they care not for the high road, that their ideas are all about tearing down, and not building up. Tearing down our long-held values of tolerance. Tearing down our high-held values of respect. Tearing down our humanity and compassion, and trying to replace it with fearful self-interested greed.
I'd say it seems about time to crush out their fat asses under our high horse's hooves, down there on the low road where they snipe from.
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*applauds*
*stands, still applauding*
"If it wasn't for threatened violence (or actual violence) this poor fat shit's ideology wouldn't have any chance of ever finding its way into someone's mind. He knows it. They ALL know it. Without fear, they can't influence anyone."
That's their answer to everything, because:
1. That's all they know;
2. Their ideology is loathsome and can't stand on its own merits;
3. They're angry, mentally ill people who enjoy hurting others — especially people who are smarter or have better sex lives, which is everybody.
"one has an SO with crazy Jehovah's Witless parents"
I heard that if you steal their magic underwear, they lose their powers.
So, shorter, the entitled, steroid-bloated high school jocks of the world should take a break from failing classes and date-raping female students to beat the queer out of some queers?
Don't they already do that?
Is that beautiful person in blue you?
What a lovely couple, what a shame, think of the glorious looking children they would have had.
No, the gal on the left is Christine and Victoria Grace is in blue. They are both my daughters. I am a cross between them both, lol.
Yes, Christine and Anthony would have made lovely babies.
They are so beautiful, good hair genes!
Holy crap, those are some pretty girls. Don't show my mom, she'll be so bummed with what she ended up with.
Wow, your daughters are beautiful!
Barb, I would love to be your FB friend. Plz contact Riley. You are the bomb. –another perimenopausal bitch who used to take in stray teens
Only when sung by Junior Walker. Damn that's a good song. Oh, wait, you meant something else…..
Woah, holy shit, is it really you?
Neilist, yay!
Jeeze, you mean her Mom isn't even bothering to use donated funds to buy up copies and artificially boost sales?
1400? That won't buy too many wine coolers…
Aren't most words silly?
The Heritage Foundation is finally tapped out? Hope, hope!
LOL, Histori! Her book isn't even in the top 100. Imagine how many of those 1,400 were people, buying the book to write about it for their blogs, news, etc.
A few days ago he answered one of my posts by reminding me that Benazhir Bhutto is STILL dead. So, yes.
You have a beautiful soul, and Wonkette personality, does that make-up for any perceived lack of beauty?
I actually sold my soul a few years ago to make rent, so… well, I drink heavily, so maybe that makes up for being fugly?
But did he describe his theory on what caliber of weapon was used to gun her down? Because we COULD have an imposter.
"MAKE ME SOME PIE!!" — Eric Cartman
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