UGH  11:43 am June 29, 2011

Hope & Change Headline of the Day: ‘Michelle Obama Denies Supporting Gay Marriage’

by Wonkette Jr.

Oh, Michelle Obama! We love you even when we don’t really think too much of that husband of yours, anymore. You’re “the cool one,” right? Right? No, you’re just another amoral liar in Washington.

Politico has this:

First lady Michelle Obama’s office on Tuesday quickly shot down the suggestion that she has ever publicly voiced support for same-sex marriage, a policy her husband opposes even as the left pressures him to take a stand.

“Mrs. Obama has never made any public statements about same-sex marriage,” her communications director, Kristina Schake, said in an email to POLITICO.


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nounverb911 June 29, 2011 at 11:45 am

Though she is anxiously awaiting her invitation to Lindsey Graham's wedding.

edgydrifter June 29, 2011 at 11:45 am

She's gay-marriage-support-curious.

PsycWench June 29, 2011 at 11:49 am

So make a statement, dammit, what are you waiting for?

JustPixelz June 29, 2011 at 12:52 pm

It's like a test. If she wants to live in the White House another 4 years, she'll say something innocuous like "people don't need a piece of paper to love each other". If she wants out of that hell hole, she'll say "I'm looking forward to the day I can gay marry Nancy Pelosi so she can move into the White House."

gullywompr June 29, 2011 at 11:52 am

Thought they repealed don't ash don't tell?

nounverb911 June 29, 2011 at 11:54 am

Barry didn't give up smoking?

Weenus299 June 29, 2011 at 11:55 am

"Love" is still a four-letter word during four-year election seasons.

weejee June 29, 2011 at 12:04 pm

Did they catch something from Timmy Geithner? Have they become, gasp, hedge fond?

BloviateMe June 29, 2011 at 12:10 pm

Bush used it as a red herring back in the day, so I kind of understand the hesitation to make it the issue du jour. It seems to magnify and focus the wingnut hatred.

Monsieur_Grumpe June 29, 2011 at 12:18 pm

Not fabulous.

SayItWithWookies June 29, 2011 at 12:19 pm

Look, that one time in college didn't mean anything, okay?

Cat_Damon June 29, 2011 at 12:20 pm

I have a dream, that one day Barry won't be such a fucking goober. It's 2011, fer chrissakes. Despite what Tennessee says, gays do exist, and with the exception of Richard Simmons, they aren't frightening. Let's please acknowledge them as human beings, eh?

V572 [SSAN] June 29, 2011 at 12:39 pm

Rosie O'Donnell is kinda scary, you have to admit.

BaldarTFlagass June 29, 2011 at 12:23 pm

Was that a parable or a very subtle joke?

57/60 states.

Native_of_SL_UT June 29, 2011 at 12:25 pm

Doesn't Michelle get enough shit for wanting fat people to not be so fat?
Does she really need to wade into this too?

pinkocommi June 29, 2011 at 12:28 pm

By "Hope & Change," Obama and Michelle meant, "hope" no one remembers anything progressive we said or promised in the past and, in any case, let's "change" the subject.

Tommmcattt June 29, 2011 at 12:31 pm

She may want to rethink that position. Does she want to go down in history as being accomplished in the style of a Jackie Kennedy, or accomplished in the style of a Rosalyn Carter?

We 'Mos hold the keys to that, trust me.

BaldarTFlagass June 29, 2011 at 12:32 pm

I'm starting to feel like a member of the audience must have felt when Johnny Rotten asked them, "Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?"

LowProfileinGA June 29, 2011 at 12:36 pm

And a lovely ditty to make that thought less painful:

DerrickWildcat June 29, 2011 at 12:42 pm

I draw the line at gay boys marrying Gay girls.

SorosBot June 29, 2011 at 3:34 pm

What did Will and Jada Smith ever do to you?

flamingpdog June 29, 2011 at 8:24 pm

What did Darth and Lynn Cheney ever do to you?
Oh, wait …

user-of-owls June 29, 2011 at 12:49 pm

…and it is a very sound one.

weejee June 29, 2011 at 12:50 pm

But to avoid we must be careful not to become redactionary.

weejee June 29, 2011 at 12:52 pm

Huevos pequeños, si.

user-of-owls June 29, 2011 at 12:53 pm

Needs more Judy Garland & Maria Callas.

OneYieldRegular June 29, 2011 at 2:28 pm

Needs more Lypsinka.

Tommmcattt June 29, 2011 at 3:01 pm

She is fabulous. Is she still performing?

Biel_ze_Bubba June 29, 2011 at 12:58 pm

God changed his mind – what's the big deal? And if God does it, you can't give Mitt a hard time for switching positions as his conscience convenience dictates.

Guppy06 June 29, 2011 at 1:05 pm

So she's now to the right of Laura Bush?

ttommyunger June 29, 2011 at 1:06 pm

Exchange I would love to hear during an Obama Presser: Reporter-"Do you support Gay Marriage, Mr. President?" Barry-"(Flashing that Million-Dollar smile, "Blow me, and I'll tell you!".

Biel_ze_Bubba June 29, 2011 at 1:08 pm

There's always the possibility, which we don't like to think about, that the Obamas are not, personally, in favor of gay marriage. We like to imagine that they have the standard issue ivy-college-liberal set of beliefs, but it's hardly a sure thing. Black Christian churches aren't exactly hotbeds of gay rights activism!

When Barry is finally forced to go on the record, and says that it's up to the states, you'll know he's just not that into it.

flamingpdog June 29, 2011 at 8:00 pm

I'm with you on this one, Bubba. No snark.

flamingpdog June 29, 2011 at 8:14 pm

On the mark! (no snark)

Negropolis June 30, 2011 at 4:32 am

Honestly? These are Hyde Park liberals through-and-through. They believe in it.

BTW, their power base has never been Black Christian churches, as much as the right-wing wanted to make it look. They went to Trinity to keep up appearances. Their power base is University of Chicago faculty elites; always has been. I have to laugh when I see that people think that Barack actually converted to Christianity in his heart after how he was raised and how long it was before he came into contact with Southside Chicago. Barack has always played the African American community like a fiddle. I know folks hate to hear it (particularly my white liberal brethren), but it's the truth.

Barry is about as much a Christian as Reagan was. You know, for as much as this country gets labeled as being led by Christianist, we've had ONE, true-believing evangelical president in modern times. His name was Jimmy Carter.

Biel_ze_Bubba June 30, 2011 at 4:39 am

Radical concept: Maybe they don't get their beliefs from their power base. Obama is not your father's president… and nobody's Chicago politician.

Negropolis June 30, 2011 at 4:47 am

Well, then, they sure as hell didn't get their beliefs from the black church, then. If you believe there is a strong possibility that neither of them believes in gay marriage, I got an unbuilt bridge in Alaska to sell you. Seriously, this is just ridiculous to here someone say something so stupid.

Oh, yeah, almost forgot: [/no snark]

mumbly_joe June 30, 2011 at 6:37 am

I keep saying pretty much the same thing. In certain Christian circles there's a slang term, "CAPE Christian", which is to say, a Christian who only goes to church on Christmas, Ash Wednesday, Palm Sunday, and Easter.

Barry clearly is -and frankly, just as Bubba was- the *other* type of CAPE Christian: Christian as political expedient. As you mentioned, it's hardly uncommon amongst modern presidents (or for that matter, presidents in the 1800's or 1700's either- Lincoln was one of the *more* religious presidents of his era, for example), and it bugs the hell out of non-believers and hippie quasi-believers such as myself that people have to pretend to be something they're not, religiously, to hold office in a country with putatively no religious tests, but it is, indeed, the sad fact there.

But, yeah. His mom was a unitarian universalist and his dad was an atheist. He was raised in a variety of religiously pluralistic environments (Catholic school in a majority muslim country, etc.), and he sends his daughters to a Quaker school. It's hard to say he's necessarily a *non-believer* with with that background, but sad to say that Glenn Beck is probably right on this point: if he does care about that stuff at all, it's not a type of Christianity most Baptists, Southern Baptists or Catholics would recognize.

Negropolis June 30, 2011 at 7:37 am

Yeah, I probably shouldn't have so strongly said that he's not a Christian, but you got at what I was getting at. Like my own personal beliefs, I'd bet if he layed out his personal set of beliefs in an honest way (the stuff in his books is, for lack of a better description, window-dressing bullshit), there would be no way they could be considered mainstream Christianity, and thus Christian by the vast majority of Christians.

Trinity is (was – turns out it wasn't that hard to let it go. lol) a total front, for him. It's both large and wide enough that you can safely get lost in it and then take away whatever you want from it. Coming from Detroit, I know these types of socially and politically active black megachurches and what they are used for by local politicians. Trinity is a bit different in that it's formally organized and arranged around the Mainline United Church of Christ, but in practice, it functions just like every other evangelical megachurch.

ShaveTheWhales July 1, 2011 at 4:35 am

I agree with you that Jimmeh was the only true-believing Christian Prez we've had in my lifetime, and from reading history I'd say maybe forever. But your use of the word "evangelical" is, I think, incorrect — during his Presidency, and subsequent to it, I have seen only low-end evangelizing — Bible reading classes and the like. If he is an evangelical, he was a most remarkable one during his Presidency, since he did not use his position to evangelize.

BTW, the problem with the country's leadership is that the national legislature is bloody full of Christianists.

archikvetch June 29, 2011 at 1:16 pm

As long as it evolves some dick smokin' I'm all for it! But (snark off) "evolve" is for Barry and Michelle what "third way" was for Bill and Hillary. And just as specious.

mumbly_joe June 29, 2011 at 1:25 pm

The Audacity of Declining to Make a Comment

GregComlish June 29, 2011 at 2:06 pm

Perfect Timing!

axmxz June 29, 2011 at 4:29 pm

So basically, Politico had no story and some space to fill. I'll save my outrage for when she actually says something.

fletc3her June 29, 2011 at 6:15 pm

Wouldn't that be the tea party view? As in gay marriage should be decided at the state level, but states should respect one another's laws as they always have?

iburl June 29, 2011 at 6:30 pm

"Leave it to the states" the rallying cry of the liberal?

flamingpdog June 29, 2011 at 8:16 pm

Upfist, but when did the O'Bombers not really standing for anything come to have anything to do with being liberal?

PristineODummy June 29, 2011 at 9:51 pm

Agreed. Sheesh, all he has to do is propose a tax cut, and suddenly the Republicans are all NOT about the tax cuts.

PsycWench June 30, 2011 at 10:35 am

I believe Clinton used this type of tactic very successfully.

Nothingisamiss June 30, 2011 at 12:22 am

Upfist, sister.

Negropolis June 30, 2011 at 4:28 am

How many times did Peter deny Jesus, again? When we hear Anthony Weiner's below-the-waist region crow, some prophecy will have been fulfilled.

ShaveTheWhales July 1, 2011 at 4:52 am

Bamz isn't particularly liberal. He didn't campaign explicitly as liberal; his campaign just let the liberals dream that he was better than Clinton. He said a long time ago that he supports equal rights for gays via civil unions, but that he doesn't support gay marriage. I take this rather twee distinction to be either (1) equivocation based on his religious beliefs; (2) simple political positioning; or (3) both.

Ms Bamz may well never have made a public statement about gay marriage. In fact, unless she did so back when she was a lawyer/board member, I'd say she shouldn't. First Ladies (Gentlemen) generally don't comment on controversial topics, for the very good reason that they aren't elected to anything. I disagree with those who suggest she should now take a public position.

Only you can decide if you misinterpreted Obama. I do know quite a few people who saw what they wanted to see — it was a really well-run campaign. I had zero trouble voting for him, and zero regrets — the alternative was McCain/Alaskunt. Never forget that.

MinAgain July 1, 2011 at 11:20 am

Just think what a gay bridal registry could do for the economy, Michelle.

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