• May 26, 2012

American History Will Disappear From Students’ Minds By 2060

by Kirsten Boyd Johnson  

it's ok, he doesn't remember, eitherHistorical revisionist Sarah Palin is not alone in her inability to answer basic questions about our nation’s past: American students don’t know squat, either! 82% of high school seniors failed to demonstrate “proficiency” on a national history exam, a 1% uptick in number of students who couldn’t pass the previous test in 2006. Keep at it, America! At this rate, by 2060, graduating high school students will no longer even know the past exists. (We think. America failed to teach us math, too.)

Fourth- and eighth-graders scored somewhat better than their older counterparts with 20% and 17% proficiency, respectively. This suggests that our education system may not be good at teaching children history, but it scores high marks for at least helping kids to forget. Forgetting is your new NEVER FORGETTING. Oh well, collective national amnesia, what harm has that ever done?

From the NYT:

Diane Ravitch, an education historian who was invited by the national assessment’s governing board to review the results, said she was particularly disturbed by the fact that only 2 percent of 12th graders correctly answered a question concerning Brown v. Board of Education, which she called “very likely the most important decision” of the United States Supreme Court in the past seven decades.

Students were given an excerpt including the passage, “We conclude that in the field of public education, separate but equal has no place, separate educational facilities are inherently unequal,” and were asked what social problem the 1954 ruling was supposed to correct.

“The answer was right in front of them,” Ms. Ravitch said. “This is alarming.”

Brown v. Board of Education? That’s the one where the judges were ringing bells and yelling at the Muslins, right? [NYTimes]

{ 207 comments }

DrunkIrishman June 15, 2011 at 7:18 pm

History is history for a reason, man!

memzilla June 15, 2011 at 7:20 pm

We'll be learning Chinese and Indian history instead.

Negropolis June 15, 2011 at 10:52 pm

Both of which is a million times more interesting than our own, so I guess it won't be all bad. Plus, we'll get to learn all of those "acient Chinese secrets" I'm always hearing so much about.

flamingpdog June 16, 2011 at 12:09 am

Oh, Jeeze, it's been like 40-45 years since I heard "ancient Chinese secret" on the TeeVee. Bonus points if you can tell me what laundry soap it was.

Negropolis June 16, 2011 at 2:22 am

I'm a 20-something; I'm sorry to say that I don't know what you're talking about.

flamingpdog June 16, 2011 at 2:58 am

Sorry, here's the commercial. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yW6vObBOVE
It was, like so many commericials of that time, stupid. Also borderline racist, but at a time when Orientals were next to non-existent on TV, at least it created jobs for a couple of them. And I don't believe they were Chinese either.

tessiee June 16, 2011 at 9:20 am

we'll get to learn all of those "acient Chinese secrets" I'm always hearing so much about

Spoiler: It's Calgon.

anniegetyerfun June 16, 2011 at 1:07 am

Oh, Christ, there's so much MORE of that shit to study. Damn these old civilizations.

arihaya June 16, 2011 at 2:04 pm

too good to be true,,,

if only all people learn the life of Asoka, Buddha or Gandhi, there will be no more neocons

Walkinwiddaking June 16, 2011 at 7:32 pm

Back in 1967 to 1968, my freshman high school year, my social studies class was devoted to learning half the year about China and the other half of the year learning about the history of India. Tenth grade was spent on World History and eleventh grade was devoted to American History. My last year was an elective and I chose Asian History. What do they teach these humps nowadays? And don't mention Jersey Shore, back then anything remotely equivalent would have been Audio Visual and that was restricted to the 'tards.

Negropolis June 16, 2011 at 11:49 pm

I was in high school at the turn-of-the-century, and my freshman year was Western Civilization, I forget what my sophomore year was, but junior year was American History (I was in an AP class, that year), and Senior year was U.S. Government and Economics.

Barb June 15, 2011 at 7:21 pm

Students can't answer a question about Brown v. Board of Education? This is one of the most important Supreme Court decisions since Smelt it v. Dealt it.
Palin will fix all of this once she is elected POTUS.

weejee June 15, 2011 at 7:26 pm

Wasn't Charlie Brown v. Board of Edjumacaton what Paul Revere warned the British about?

Cold-medicated Canucks or Bruins, Barb?

Barb June 15, 2011 at 7:27 pm

LOL! Bruins. Who are you rooting for?

weejee June 15, 2011 at 7:29 pm

Must admit our C'Addled neighbors to the north, the Canuckies.

flamingpdog June 15, 2011 at 8:01 pm

Why do you hate America?

Beowoof June 15, 2011 at 8:39 pm

BRUINS

bflrtsplk June 15, 2011 at 9:57 pm

That Charlie Brown thing had to with his parents wanting the Board of Education to make Lucy hold that damn football down so the boy could kick it and avoid becoming Preznet and starting wars to prove his manhood. Paul Revere & the Raiders featuring Mark Lindsay's favorite band. Also too Charlie wanted to be called Chuck but no luck.

NorthStarSpanx June 15, 2011 at 11:14 pm

Couric asked Palin: What other Supreme Court decisions do you disagree with?

"Well, let's see,'' Palin said. "There's –of course –in the great history of America there have been rulings, that's never going to be absolute consensus by every American. And there are — those issues, again, like Roe v Wade where I believe are best held on a state level and addressed there. So you know — going through the history of America, there would be others but…''

"Can you think of any?'' Couric asked.

"Well, I could think of — of any again, that could be best dealt with on a more local level — maybe I would take issue with,'' Palin said. "But you know, as mayor, and then as governor and even as a vice president, if I'm so privileged to serve, wouldn't be in a position of changing those things but in supporting the law of the land as it reads today.''

tessiee June 16, 2011 at 9:24 am

Shorter: I cannot name one single Supreme Court decision that I agree with.

flamingpdog June 16, 2011 at 12:14 am

Lesbionic libel!
Peppermint Patty always called him Chuck.

bflrtsplk June 16, 2011 at 3:14 am

Yes but Peppermint Patty was never sincere about it.

tessiee June 16, 2011 at 9:22 am

If for no other reason than because Palin is *always* the one who dealt it.

PuckStopsHere June 15, 2011 at 7:22 pm

They must be reading Conservapedia.

zhubajie June 16, 2011 at 8:17 am

Well, it's purpose for existing is to "help" home schoolers!

Callyson June 15, 2011 at 7:22 pm

From the NYT…this gets better and better:
American students are less proficient in their nation’s history than in any other subject, according to results of a nationwide test released on Tuesday…History is one of eight subjects — the others are math, reading, science, writing, civics, geography and economics — covered by the assessment program, which is also known as the Nation’s Report Card.
History is #1!!! Suck it, math and science!

DustBowlBlues June 15, 2011 at 7:48 pm

But . . . but . . . history is the easy one that's also the most interesting of the batch. How can they suck worse at it than science, since more of the fucking morans in this country believe in the tooth fairy than they do science?

tessiee June 16, 2011 at 9:29 am

"history is the easy one that's also the most interesting of the batch"

After I got out of school, I was astonished to discover how much more interesting history is when it ceases to be a school subject.

Also, teehee, "batch".

HistoriCat June 16, 2011 at 9:32 am

Too much of that socialist reading.

Angry_Marmot June 15, 2011 at 11:56 pm

50 years of asking teaching candidates "what can you coach?" and then hiring them to "teach social studies". (Speaking as a history teacher.)

V572 [SSAN] June 16, 2011 at 1:57 am

Ha ha, a few years back on of our many California colleges was complaining their school budget was so hacked that athletes actually had to schedule their practices around classes! The horror!

tessiee June 16, 2011 at 9:30 am

Why do they even bother to make athletes *take* classes?

V572 [SSAN] June 16, 2011 at 9:42 am

So that, unlike yr hmble srvnt, they can learn the difference between “on” and “one.”

ttommyunger June 15, 2011 at 7:26 pm

"Will" disappear? The jingoistic pablum our kids are taught only passes for history there, at that time. Everywhere else it is fantasy.

OC_Surf_Serf June 15, 2011 at 7:26 pm

Bownie vs. Board of Education: Where we sold New Orleans back to Nature by voting on our cell phones…

My grandchildren's version of today

weejee June 15, 2011 at 7:27 pm

Heck of a job, OC.

OC_Surf_Serf June 15, 2011 at 7:28 pm

Thanks. Now watch this drive.

SmutBoffin June 15, 2011 at 7:31 pm

Aren't these the same kids that know every kind of Pokemon and all the characters in the Harry Potter books? Maybe if we just edit history to say Harry Potter Revere rode a pikachu through the Super Mario Mushroom Kingdom to warn citizens about the Decepticons, everything will just be OK.

HateMachine June 15, 2011 at 9:46 pm

Man, I'm 25, know all my Pokemengs, and could still stomp the shit out of these creatures at US History, even setting aside their laughable failure to learn about a single Supreme Court Case in four years of high school. It ain't the Pokemon that do this.

It's either shitty schools, or shitty kids. Fuck, it's both. I know that American schools are awful, but find me a whole classroom of high schoolers who give a shit about their education, and I will, um, do something once you have done that.

tessiee June 16, 2011 at 9:19 am

Bart Simpson: Why does this comic mean more to me than school, church, and family?
Cartoonist: Because those things suck.

Lionel[redacted]Esq June 15, 2011 at 7:31 pm

History is Bunk

–Henry Ford

unclejeems June 15, 2011 at 10:16 pm

Henry Ford is history.

–Bunk

Doktor Zoom June 16, 2011 at 12:17 am

Man must have a code.

–Det. William "Bunk" Moreland

Angry_Marmot June 16, 2011 at 12:05 am

Sure it is, if you're an anti-Semite who prints and distributes Protocols of the Elders of Zion through local Ford dealerships.

Negropolis June 16, 2011 at 2:19 am

Ford was kind of famous for making his own history; his own nasty, anti-semitic, capitalism-fetishizing history. But, he made good, affordable cars!

zhubajie June 16, 2011 at 8:18 am

Who he?

tessiee June 16, 2011 at 9:35 am

History is Bunk, except for that whole Third Reich thing; that was pretty cool.

–Henry Ford

CalamityJames June 15, 2011 at 7:32 pm

As long as they know that Jessica Lynch was raped and shot and Pat Tillman was killed by enemy fire, I don't see this as a bad thing.

V572 [SSAN] June 16, 2011 at 2:01 am

Not enough upfists available for you on that one. If you haven't read Where Men Win Glory, you would enjoy it I'm sure.

smokefilledroommate June 15, 2011 at 7:41 pm

It's the brown board that learns you.

Lionel[redacted]Esq June 15, 2011 at 7:41 pm

I'm pretty sure as long as kids know that Ronald Reagan molded this country out of the rib of Jimmy Carter, whom he slew using the jaw bone of Abraham Lincoln, and then established that no one with over $250,000 should really pay taxes, and that the poor could suck it. Suck it hard and suck it long, what else do you really need to know?

Oh, and that FDR was a proto-Communist/Muslim/Fascist who started this country on the path to the new Caliphate. I mean, really, is there anything else to history? Not that I've seen on Fox News.

Tides go in, Tides go out. How do you explain that?

Peace in our time June 15, 2011 at 9:16 pm

"Tides go in, Tides go out. How do you explain that? "

Laundry day?

WABishop June 16, 2011 at 11:43 am

Dirt goes in, dirt goes out. Tide is the answer.

Peace in our time June 18, 2011 at 12:01 pm

This makes me want to Cheer.

WABishop June 19, 2011 at 9:53 pm

Is that All?

Come here a minute June 15, 2011 at 7:42 pm

The "Brown" case was where Cleveland's NFL team bolted that armpit — and landed in a taint (?).

Terry June 15, 2011 at 7:45 pm

Snuck like cowards out of a darn fine city.

Chet Kincaid June 15, 2011 at 9:25 pm

I was born in Cleveland, but the goddamned "heartbreak" and crying in their beer and ingratitude for 7 years of not being the joke of the nation is getting on my nerves, along with Drew Carey. You know, changing the fucking racist Indian logo might be a civic slump-buster!

ThundercatHo June 15, 2011 at 11:10 pm

I was also, too born and raised in Cleveland and I must say didn't appreciate the place until I was gone. That being said I will never forgive those assholes for losing the Cleveland Ballet and at the same time spending several million dollars on a fucking topless football stadium right on Lake Erie so we could get our losing football team. At least we kept Dennis Kucinich.

SaintRond June 15, 2011 at 7:46 pm

I've said it before and I'll say it again, mainly because I like coming up with recipes. But the fact is, all over the world we're in full agreement – Americans really are good for one thing and one thing only – for food. Chinese food in particular, though Mexicans also have some wonderful culinary ideas with regard to this new source of nourishment. There's Americans w/preserved turnip, Americans in triple happiness sauce, American tripe w/cabbage, fragrant American w/horse sinuses and bamboo shoots, American w/lobster sauce, steamed American w/scallions and sliced sea cucumber, steamed American's feet, American belly w/brown sauce, American w/peanuts & red peppers, American jowl (they've got huge jowls) and tongue w/tofu… The list is endless. And I have no doubt when Fox News tells these 300 million assholes that allowing themselves to be served up to hungry Chinese people for special dinners is something that Jesus would approve of, the bastards will form a line around the block.

All over the world we're just licking our chops thinking of the tasty treats awaiting us. We're going to eat you. Yes, we are. We're going to eat you all.

Beowoof June 15, 2011 at 8:48 pm

No like American, too much fat for the yuan.

DashboardBuddha June 15, 2011 at 8:58 pm

More like well marbled.

lumpenprole June 15, 2011 at 10:17 pm

Just think of all that petro-corn energy moving through the diseased livestock, into the sick Americans and then flown around the world to poison the Chinese.

Buckminster June 16, 2011 at 12:25 pm

Antibiotic-laden cow flesh, no less. Fed on genetically altered corn.

Doktor Zoom June 16, 2011 at 12:24 am

'Ceptin' for Texans. You ever try to clean one of those?

SaintRond June 16, 2011 at 12:41 am

A little cilantro and boil 'em up – no smell, no problem. Besides, when it comes to culinary treats, you cannot gross out the Chinese. It's impossible.

tessiee June 16, 2011 at 5:51 pm

"'Ceptin' for Texans. You ever try to clean one of those?

A little cilantro and boil 'em up"

That would be Tex-Mex?

tessiee June 16, 2011 at 6:00 pm

Yeah, we're basically fucked, but at least we don't have socialized medicine, so it's all worthwhile, right?

fuflans June 15, 2011 at 7:48 pm

what does this have to do with tax cuts?

genxr June 15, 2011 at 8:12 pm

The answer to every question on the exam was "tax cuts."

NorthStarSpanx June 15, 2011 at 11:16 pm

So it was written on the palm of a famous woman's hand. . .

a_pink_poodle June 15, 2011 at 7:51 pm

The Battle of Guantanimo Bay where the Germans ate Colonel Custard on Pearl Harbor Hill? Eeeeeeveryone knows that!

ArmoredBore June 15, 2011 at 7:52 pm

Their loud rap "music" racket and thinkin' 'bout sex constantly… damn kids!

Beowoof June 15, 2011 at 8:45 pm

As I recall as a child of the 60's most of what I thought about were The Beatles, The Stones, The Who, The Doors and Jenny Lou looking hot in her bikini walking around the pool at Hyde Park in Niagara Falls. And whether we could scrape together a $1.08, to buy two pints of wine, one for the Wino who would buy it for us and one for us.
My mother was the mean one, turned off the TV and made us read books.

AJWjr. June 15, 2011 at 9:17 pm

Elitist! We'd get Thunderbird, cuz it was cheap–40 twice!

Nothingisamiss June 15, 2011 at 10:15 pm

You didn't have to make your own? You musta lived someplace fancy, fancy boy.

JustPixelz June 15, 2011 at 7:53 pm

In the immoral words of George W. Bush: "Is our children learning?" Guess not. Personally, I attribute 82% of the problem to Texas textbook standards. I blame the teevee for 63% and that crazy music for 120% (I learnt 'rithmetic in Florida.)

bflrtsplk June 15, 2011 at 9:18 pm

Why the first song I learnt in kindygardens was Battle Himn of the Guantanamo aka Kill Them Arabs After We Wear Ém Down with Electroshocks to their Privates.

PocketsTheClown June 15, 2011 at 7:53 pm

Kindergarten costs $335 per month in my neighborhood, which is only slightly more than community college. I have no point, just putting a spotlight on it.

karen June 15, 2011 at 8:41 pm

Is this a private kindergarten? Mine was public school, the parentals' taxes paid for it.

AnAmericanInTO June 15, 2011 at 8:50 pm

Wait! You pay for Kindergarten out of pocket?

Incidentally, here in Canukistan (Ontario Prefecture) the kids have two years of Kindergarten (age 4 and 5).

imissopus June 15, 2011 at 9:34 pm

And they still can't pronounce their o's correctly.

Negropolis June 15, 2011 at 11:40 pm

That's perfectly all right. Neither can Pittsburghers, but we still love those meatheads. I don't know what they speak in Pittsburgh, but 't ain't English, I'll tell ya what.

fuflans June 15, 2011 at 7:55 pm

brown vs board of ed???? wtf history test administering people!?!?!

these people can't answer basic questions about the religion that they claim motivates them in all things. fuck do they know about the supreme court???

NorthStarSpanx June 15, 2011 at 11:18 pm

That the high court robed ones can speak at partisan events and their wives can lobby for them also too.

fuflans June 15, 2011 at 7:57 pm

also, i got a grad degree in history (mostly because i did not want to enter the real job type world at that precise moment in my life and, as it turns out, i was so right…).

but i really love history. this makes me sad.

flamingpdog June 15, 2011 at 8:09 pm
Noman June 15, 2011 at 8:12 pm
karen June 15, 2011 at 8:43 pm

I'm trying to figure out how this differs from any other president, republican or democrat.

Annnnnnnnd it doesn't.

Noman June 15, 2011 at 8:54 pm

The One is soooooo much better cuz he's luv luv luved by progtards.

DashboardBuddha June 15, 2011 at 9:00 pm

The One? You mean $arah? Yeah, her 'tards worship the fuck out of her. Just ask Todd.

Noman June 16, 2011 at 7:22 pm

Obama akbar!
Obama akbar!
Obama akbar!

Five times a day, prostrate yourself towards Washington D.C. and chant the above homage to The One.

anniegetyerfun June 16, 2011 at 1:27 am

We prefer the term "libtard", you douchenozzle.

Noman June 16, 2011 at 7:17 pm

You can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
But if you try sometimes well you might find
You progressive-jihadists may get what you need
In the mens' room at a park in West Hollywood

Beowoof June 15, 2011 at 8:54 pm

Gee I am sure no one in the Nixon, Regan, Bush I and Bush II regimes ever got a job based upon donations. Why am I so positive, talent such as Michal Brown, FEMA, John Bolton, UN, John Ashcroft Attorney General (who lost an election to a dead man) would be available with out some cash changing hands somewhere.

HELisforHEL June 16, 2011 at 12:48 pm

And they all did a heckuva job

tessiee June 16, 2011 at 5:54 pm

Your point being?

Walkinwiddaking June 16, 2011 at 6:08 pm

A black man who is President awarding Rainmakers with political appointments. Huh. First time I've ever seen this happen.

Noman June 16, 2011 at 7:19 pm

contributors, not rainmakers.

I thot Dear Leader was above "pay-to-play."

genxr June 15, 2011 at 8:13 pm

Future wikipedia editors, all.

Lionel[redacted]Esq June 15, 2011 at 9:27 pm

More likely, sadly, future Washington Post Editorial Writers.

Noman June 15, 2011 at 9:44 pm

Future Wonkette Jr wannabes.

tessiee June 16, 2011 at 5:56 pm

"Wannabes" because the students that don't know history aren't informed enough to write for Wonkette, I take it?

Noman June 16, 2011 at 7:11 pm

Wannabes because Wankerette won't be around long enough for juveniles to have a shot posting here.

pinkocommi June 15, 2011 at 8:14 pm

On the positive side, 100% of US high schoolers are able to identify all the cast members of Jersey Shore.

Negropolis June 15, 2011 at 11:44 pm

When the aliens come to our ruined planet, and dig up our civilization, all that will be left to history is Snooki's hair poof. Oh, and her perfectly embalmed and preserved corpose, because we are totally going to worship that shit long as she's gone.

V572 [SSAN] June 16, 2011 at 2:10 am

The people on "Jersey Shore" are sad. People (if there are any) who watch them as role models are sad. People who watch them ironically are as sad as people who think "The Office" is sophisticated entertainment.

Commenting on all that here, though, is witty and incisive!

flamingpdog June 15, 2011 at 8:20 pm

Today, we're all history!

Redhead June 15, 2011 at 8:22 pm

Sooner than 2060, if they go to summer camp in Texas. (Plus they'll get fatter quicker with all the hard candies!)

horsedreamer_1 June 15, 2011 at 8:43 pm

The sensationalism is too much. We need a hysterectomy.

Beowoof June 15, 2011 at 8:46 pm

How could you leave behind that lavish $50,000 per year salary and all the pleasant parents? Not to mention their upstanding children.

DashboardBuddha June 15, 2011 at 8:56 pm

Straight up? I do miss the kids. I even have a fair number of former students on facebook. Parents? Meh.

But administrators? Fuck them…fuck them all.

Rotundo_ June 15, 2011 at 8:55 pm

The plan is working: How else can you get a majority of people to vote for politicians who have sworn to enact policies that will shaft them? Americans are exceptionally stupid these days, at least we still can cling to that. We're Numba WUN!!

HELisforHEL June 16, 2011 at 12:50 pm

I have often felt that was the Republican mindset—"the stupider they all be, the more often we'll win"
And sadly, it's working.

Maman June 15, 2011 at 9:07 pm

I figured that I had an FBI file anyway…

iburl June 15, 2011 at 9:45 pm

If you don't have an FBI file you really are nobody.
The FBI is kind of like Facebook, except they want to shoot your dog and put you in Gitmo for terrorism because you attended a Green Party meeting in 1998.

Maman June 15, 2011 at 10:21 pm

I figure that it is my anti-Bush comments on Wonkette that got their attention

Beowoof June 15, 2011 at 9:08 pm

We don't need no edukation, all we need is common cents.

"Common sense, isn't very common", Mark Twain

Amo_of_Bogio June 15, 2011 at 9:14 pm

As the late great George Carlin said: Think about how stupid the average person is and then remember that half of the population is stupider than that.

HateMachine June 15, 2011 at 9:56 pm

Even that well-known retard, the Average American, is scratching his head wondering how people could possibly be so stupid.

ThundercatHo June 15, 2011 at 11:13 pm

As was made so painfully clear to me when George W. was re-elected.

axmxz June 15, 2011 at 9:17 pm

Who cares? By 2060, all of us except Colorado will be under water. And I don't mean just our mortgages.

Negropolis June 15, 2011 at 11:47 pm

I'm scoping out some premium Colorado beachfront property in Aspen as we speak.

flamingpdog June 16, 2011 at 12:29 am

Nah, Aspen lies in a narrow valley – very hard to land your Lear Jet there. I suggest Vail-Beaver Creek. The interstate will run right up to the shoreline, you can golf with the ghost of Jerry Ford, and shop at the best booze store in the world – Beaver Liquors.

Slim_Pickins June 15, 2011 at 9:25 pm

I will either be dead or over 113 yo when 2060 rolls around, cold comfort, I know.

HateMachine June 15, 2011 at 10:01 pm

I'll be 74 and making arrangements for a rather spectacular demise (I figure 75 is as good a time as any, nice round number). There will be explosions, tigers, exploding tigers, and Jimi Hendrix's clone on guitar. That's just Act 1.

flamingpdog June 16, 2011 at 12:31 am

Sorry, Hunter S. Thompson already did that act.

HateMachine June 16, 2011 at 9:15 am

The good news is that by 2060 nobody will know enough to call me out as derivative.

HistoriCat June 16, 2011 at 9:45 am

If I make it to 91, I will attend – can I make a reservation now?

Sparky_McGruff June 15, 2011 at 9:25 pm

Is this going to be on the test? Seriously, TL:DR.

Goonemeritus June 15, 2011 at 9:34 pm

As our forefathers said a well oiled oligarchy depends on a populace that is well educated only about popular culture (read Weiner jokes). And thus will leave this governance thing to us land owners.

imissopus June 15, 2011 at 9:38 pm

Everyone stop having kids. Problem solved. You're welcome.

HELisforHEL June 16, 2011 at 12:58 pm

They're not kids–they're little consumers. That's why people need homes with 6 bedrooms and SUVs that seat 8 comfortably and why it's our capitalist American God appointed duty to keep spitting them out.
So get inspired, Wonketteers! Put on TLC or Discovery or any one of the 1000 channels of shit out there and watch the shows featuring Mormon families of 25, invitro induced mega-families, 'comedies' where every family has at least 3 kids, and loads of commercials with happy happy happy times families enjoying all the crap they purchased at WalMart. IT'S YOUR DUTY TO AMERICUH.

tessiee June 16, 2011 at 10:20 pm

"They're not kids–they're little consumers."

They're little consumers AND little cannon fodder AND little anti-choice propaganda. And since we don't give two shits about parents, they're also a device to keep them chained to the salt mines and too afraid to make waves.
Everybody wins!

tessiee June 16, 2011 at 10:17 pm

"Everyone stop having kids. "

Waayyyy ahead of ya!

iburl June 15, 2011 at 9:47 pm

I still think the Republican justices (yes, they are) should have recused themselves from the Citizens United ruling because they have the same amount of human empathy as GlaxcoSmithKline.

Dudleydidwrong June 15, 2011 at 9:47 pm

As a retired history teacher (PhD, high school and college level) I hang my head in embarrassment. Yes, it is important–essential–to learn history. Yes, I blame colleagues who convey bullshit and show films like JFK and Last of the Mohicans and consider that teaching. Fuck it. I did my best; it is someone else's problem now. Mutter, mutter, mutter–pour, pour–drink, drink, drink–sob, sob…aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrgggggggggghhhh!

BarackMyWorld June 15, 2011 at 11:11 pm

Were any of those colleagues coaches?

flamingpdog June 16, 2011 at 12:34 am

Mutter, mutter, mutter–pour, pour–drink, drink, drink–sob, sob…aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrgggggggggghhhh!
Where did you teach at the college level? You sound awfully famiiar.

OneYieldRegular June 15, 2011 at 9:56 pm

My GOD where do you people get your history? From Michelle Bachmann? It's not "ringing bells and yelling at the Muslins;" it's "ringing bells and firing those warning shots and bells and yelling at the Muslins to warn the British that they're not gonna be takin' away our arms." Sheesh – you're worse than 12th graders.

(PS – who's the guy in the photo?)

flamingpdog June 16, 2011 at 12:39 am

That would be a young Willard Scott, sans clown make-up.

NYNYNYjr June 15, 2011 at 10:15 pm

You're stealing foxworthy's material. He owns elipsesess.

NYNYNYjr June 15, 2011 at 10:19 pm

Also, who cares about B&B, the southern states have already figured out how to resegregate the schools: look at the data: every school is less diverse than it was 30 years ago- most are wholly black or white.

Negropolis June 15, 2011 at 10:59 pm

You just move to the suburbs, and voila, problem solved.

V572 [SSAN] June 16, 2011 at 1:59 am

Thanks again, Supreme Court! I don't think the South has a monopoly on re-segregation of schools by any means.

Goonemeritus June 15, 2011 at 10:23 pm

Quick aside I pried my 11th grader away from South Park long enough to ask him what Brown v Board of Education was. He gave a well reasoned synopsis of the case complete with antidotes and case law that flowed from it. He then asked me why I was asking, when, I gave him the Diane Ravitch statistic he looked at me like I was doing card tricks for a dog “called Bullshit” and trundled off to bed.

V572 [SSAN] June 16, 2011 at 2:14 am

So he's got knowledge and attitude. Sign him up for Wonkette!

Mahousu June 15, 2011 at 10:27 pm

Wait, so in a few years, we'll have forgotten that the last decade even existed? I'm having a hard time seeing the downside here.

Negropolis June 15, 2011 at 10:52 pm

Idiocracy, here we come! Hold onto your butts, and down the rabbit hole we go, ya'll! YEE HAW!

bflrtsplk June 15, 2011 at 11:03 pm

What, the world wasn't invented last year? My bad. By the way, YAY Bruins. Always had a sore spot for Vancouver after they came up a goal short against the MSG Oilers in '94.

BarackMyWorld June 15, 2011 at 11:09 pm

From the "No Shit" section of the article:
History advocates contend that students’ poor showing on the tests underlines neglect shown to the subject by federal and state policy makers, especially since the 2002 No Child Left Behind act began requiring schools to raise scores in math and reading but in no other subject. The federal accountability law, the advocates say, has given schools and teachers an incentive to spend less time on history and other subjects.

Duh. Also.

Barb June 15, 2011 at 11:11 pm

Beo, I fluffed you back up. I enjoyed the game and the win. *sigh* how long before hockey season starts again?

Beowoof June 16, 2011 at 9:44 am

Barb, too long, as there is great anticipation here in the cold north of Western NY. The Sabres have a new owner with a big pile of cash who talks about wanting a Stanley Cup. Free agency starts soon and even that is generating interest this year. Woo Hoo.

WABishop June 16, 2011 at 11:40 am

110 days, as of Thursday. Be strong, go with the flow, approach from the defensive side, and don't lose the puck if you're back of the pack.

BarackMyWorld June 15, 2011 at 11:15 pm

And I would be remiss in my duties as a Wonkette poster if I did not bring this up.

Angry_Marmot June 16, 2011 at 12:42 am

Damnit, I thought that was going to be a dick joke.

Papa_Uniform June 16, 2011 at 3:16 am

It was.

flamingpdog June 16, 2011 at 12:55 am

You know, it just occurred to me (snark off) that if she were just ignorant (like, duh) but still a good bullshitter, she could have reeled off the name of some completely bogus Supreme Court case, like, say, Jubilation v. Cornpone, and said she didn't like it because it went against the 10th Amendment, Katie would have eaten it up and gone onto the next question without any kind of follow-up questions like, "What orifice did you pull that one out of, bitch?", and 99 percent of Americans would have thought Sarah was a Constitutional scholar. She's not even a good grifter.

BarackMyWorld June 16, 2011 at 1:56 am

It seems like she could've at least came up with Plessy v. Ferguson or the Dred Scott case, since school kids get those drilled into them, so she's either a total numb-skull or REALLY didn't want to piss off the state-rights crowd.

HateMachine June 15, 2011 at 11:21 pm

My mom's a teacher, and according to her they start that sort of bullshit as far back as pre/elementary school.

HateMachine June 15, 2011 at 11:23 pm

I'm going to teach for a year or two when I finish my current degree, but it's going to be in Japan where they appreciate a goddamned quality education, rather than attempting to give book larnin' to my ignorant, uncurious, ingrate countrymen.

anniegetyerfun June 16, 2011 at 1:22 am

I've never taught in Japan, although I have lived there. I can tell you, though, that that is NOT the case in China. Little fuckers. Worse than Americans, by a long shot.

zhubajie June 16, 2011 at 8:20 am

My college students are sweet and lovable.

DerrickWildcat June 15, 2011 at 11:44 pm

I'm more interested in New History.

Negropolis June 15, 2011 at 11:51 pm

You mean to tell me that the browns in Brown vs. The Board of Educaton aren't the Messicans? Also, the shots heard round the world that started the Reagan Revolutionary War weren't fired against the British Red Coated Commies coming to steal our arms at the Battle of Lexington & Kentucky?

I don't know what to believe, anymore.

Doktor Zoom June 16, 2011 at 12:20 am

As Dave Barry said, the only thing America is really good at anymore is publishing studies of how stupid Americans are. I'm paraphrasing, but I'm pretty sure he said it.

Or maybe it was Justice Hugo Black.

anniegetyerfun June 16, 2011 at 1:20 am

YES. Even if he didn't say it, he could have. And that's what counts.

HateMachine June 16, 2011 at 9:24 am

It's the same way with Oscar Wilde. The things he didn't say, everyone assumes he was probably going to.

Angry_Marmot June 16, 2011 at 12:31 am

Teens seem to find it easier to grasp concrete issues like those in Loving v. Virginia (interracial marriage) or Griswold v. Connecticut (birth control), 'cause you know, sex. Sometimes Brown, Dred Scott and the cases surrounding the Trail of Tears. Frankly, Marbury v. Madison might seem abstract to 10th graders except as rote learning. Whether any of this sticks probably depends on how important it seems to the prevailing culture. If our goal was to raise a couple of generation of Labrador retrievers obsessed with chasing balls of various sizes, then mission accomplished!

anniegetyerfun June 16, 2011 at 1:28 am

Is there a saying about those who don't study history being doomed to repeat it? Why bother knowing it if we just get to experience it over and over again?

Negropolis June 16, 2011 at 2:38 am

OT: But, Lulz brings down CIA website.

After hearing about the FBI's new bells and whistles, this is close enough for me. Same difference. Go Lulz.

poncho_pilot June 16, 2011 at 2:59 am

this only proves what i've been saying for years: kids are fucking stupid.

easybaked June 16, 2011 at 5:53 am

And this is from the publik edumacation system – I shudder to think what the 'home-schoolers' is learning. We be fucked, indeed.

Negropolis June 16, 2011 at 7:57 am

OT: While my Republican governor, Rick Snyder, is often all kinds of unique evil, he also doesn't mind making it a point of sticking the tea party in the eyes every now and again:

Snyder declines to sign GOP governors' letter on Medicaid plan

Lansing— Gov. Rick Snyder said Wednesday he is too focused on Michigan issues to join the nation's other Republican governors in endorsing a seven-point plan to improve Medicaid.

The Republican Governors Association announced on its website this week that 29 GOP governors — all but Snyder — signed the letter, which calls for more state autonomy in determining Medicaid eligibility and cost-sharing.

In the posting on the RGA website, Texas Gov. Rick Perry, chairman of the association, said Medicaid is the second most important aspect of improving the nation's health care system "aside from the full repeal of Obamacare."

Snyder's controversial first budget featured deep program cuts, but not to Medicaid.

Boy, if the local tea party nuts aren't going to be mad that Snyder was the only Republican governor in the country not to sign this petition to strike a symbolic blow against a major part of "ObamaCare". lol

Negropolis June 16, 2011 at 8:16 am

So, on Morning Joe, right now, Scarborough is trying to understand from a new poll that shows Obama maintaining a net approval rating why the nation doesn't hate his fucking guts and why he's still polling over Romney in a match-up. Ugh.

He is right, though, with all of the media hysteria about the president, that he's still polling decently given the circumstance not just nationally, but in many key states is pretty amazing. Hell, in match-ups, Obama is polling ahead of every candidate in South Carolina except Romeny. That's nothing short of shocking. First, that Obama is beating the likes of Gingrich and Sarah Palin comfortably in South Carolina, but also that SC still hasn't seemed to have found out that not only is Romney not a Baptist, but he's not even a Catholic; he's a Mormon! Obama's actually polling well in Georgia and North Carolina, too.

tessiee June 16, 2011 at 10:40 pm

"Obama is polling ahead of every candidate in South Carolina except Romeny. That's nothing short of shocking."

Considering that SC still flies the Stars and Bars, I'm shocked that Obama is polling ahead of *anybody* there.

weejee June 16, 2011 at 8:51 am

Well annie, we in C'Addle can take some local pride in the fact that the very first 'Murican team to win the Stanley Cup wuz the Seattle Metropolitans in 1917.

tessiee June 16, 2011 at 9:04 am

The kid in the red stripes isn't thinking about Bush or anything else. She has an itchy nose and wants to scratch it, but she won't, because they're taking a picture. That makes me smile.

Barb June 16, 2011 at 9:09 am

It was a good game. I'm sad hockey season is over. Now let's watch Lefty win the U.S. Open.

tessiee June 16, 2011 at 9:21 am

Or a hommasexshul.

HistoriCat June 16, 2011 at 9:37 am

The case most of them could name is Roe – it's the only one anyone ever talks about.

tessiee June 16, 2011 at 9:39 am

Tenure PLUS summers off?
It's probably a significant improvement over being chronically unempl–
oh, wait.
Students, right?

Eve8Apples June 16, 2011 at 10:02 am

"At this rate, by 2060, graduating high school students will no longer even know the past exists."

So what you're saying is the GOP base will continue to grow. This is good news for the McCain/Palin ticket.

rambone June 16, 2011 at 10:18 am

Once we reach 100% lack of proficiency, we will all truly be equal.

Except for those of us who are able to use our family's vast wealth and power to somehow get ourselves elected President, despite the fact that we are borderline mental retaards (<– does that one make it past the filter?). Bush=Palin .

Oh, and as past is prologue, see the following list of moron monarchs for a glimpse into our future.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mentally_ill...

simplyblue7 June 16, 2011 at 11:07 am

relax…it's not like you're doomed to make the same mistakes twice…haha

Buckminster June 16, 2011 at 12:21 pm

Here in Montana, our lone congressman has problems with subjects besides history. On the subject of an amendment he proposed to a spending bill that would prevent tobacco companies from marketing to kids and would institute healthier school lunch programs, he argued:
"I hate to try and define the difference between a psychiatrist and a psychologist, between a sociologist and a geologist, but there is clearly a difference."

Yep, pretty tough to tell truth from a lie and black from white.

MiniMencken June 16, 2011 at 12:26 pm

So, I guess my conversational gambit of asking about Madison V. Marbury at bar happy hours around the Adams-Morgan 'hood is not going to keep working with the younger generation?

tessiee June 16, 2011 at 6:06 pm

I wouldn't be at all surprised if she actually does agree with Roe v. Wade, especially after Little Mongo and her daughter's oopsie, but if she hasn't the sense to do anything else on earth, she has the sense to say she's against it.

Noman June 16, 2011 at 7:23 pm

You're an expert on that sucking stuff, I presume, because you speak so macho about it.

Wanna tweet some pix of your House of Representatives member?

anniegetyerfun June 16, 2011 at 7:26 pm

Sure thing! Since you are so into cock, just shoot me a private message, and I'll have some dick pix in your inbox straight away.

Noman June 16, 2011 at 8:10 pm
tessiee June 16, 2011 at 10:29 pm

It may be worth pointing out that kids have a rather short attention span, so the average high school student probably already considers "history" as "10:30 this morning".

tessiee June 16, 2011 at 10:44 pm

On the plus side, this will save you-know-who's fan club the trouble of having to change Wikipedia.

weejee June 15, 2011 at 8:06 pm

Mmmm, getting drafted in 1967 was a start.

flamingpdog June 15, 2011 at 8:14 pm

Mmmm, true story, the only reason I still have a soft spot in my heart for Dick Nixxon is that he ended the draft call-ups in January of 1973 just as Uncle Sam was about to snatch my ass. #5 in the draft lottery. I feelz yer pain.

P.S. For anyone that's never been called in for a draft physical, Arlo Guthrie's take on it in Alice's Restaurant – it's all true.

Barb June 15, 2011 at 8:37 pm

WeeJee, did you hear that "pop" I just cracked a beer for the game and I toast to you and your service to our country. Thanks, Buddy!

V572 [SSAN] June 16, 2011 at 1:55 am

They didn't get me until '71. College deferment, like Cheney! Unfortunately I couldn't find a woman to have an conscription-proof anchor baby with, as that scam got ended before it could apply to me.

Plus I didn't have much luck with the ladiez in those days anyway…

memzilla June 15, 2011 at 8:35 pm

And they all moved away from me, on the Group W bench.

BTW, my draft number was 364 in 1971. Them Commie rat bastards would've had to have been invading Sandy Eggo and Noo Yawk to have called my a** up. Which was kind of a waste, since I had already been shot in the chest in a liquor store holdup and would have gotten a 4F medical deferment. I still joke that I got shot on this side of the Pacific so I wouldn't have to go and get shot on that side of the Pacific.

Gunner Asch June 15, 2011 at 9:26 pm

Fond memories of Oct '67…stepping over a protester going into the Oakland Army Induction Center for my first day in my new career. Joan Baez was there that day but I didn't see her.

weejee June 16, 2011 at 8:55 am

When I got drafted, the Marines were also drafting & a Marine Gunnery Sergeant, went along the line of draftees and at totally random tapped the chests of folks with his swagger stick and then when he got to the end he announced that they were now all in the Marine Corps. One guy fainted cold. Didn't matter they drug him away by his heels to Paris Island.

flamingpdog June 15, 2011 at 9:54 pm

Thankfully, I've never felt yer pain.

anniegetyerfun June 16, 2011 at 1:16 am

I have so much more respect for you than I ever could have imagined possible. I've always wanted to be shot in the chest in a liquor store holdup.

memzilla June 16, 2011 at 1:23 am

The fun part was having the neurosurgeon tell me that if the .22 short had gone 1/4" north, it would have severed the medial nerve and he would have lopped off my left arm at the shoulder, since I would have had no control or feeling over it. Fortunately, I'm right-handed.

anniegetyerfun June 16, 2011 at 1:30 am

Holy hell. You guys have lead much more interesting lives than me. I just live in Seattle, and although I'm sure that there are people who want to kill me, no one has attempted to yet.

Aren't surgeons the best?

Gleem_McShineys June 16, 2011 at 3:56 pm

Wait, I thought bullets only temporarily clouded your vision, until you took a little rest or something. I don't understand this at all!

(see XBox vs. Board of Education, 2011)

James Michael Curley June 16, 2011 at 6:08 am

One of the most distinctive memories of my 'draft physical' was how all us manly, acne be speckled teens spent much of the morning crying.
The 'drop 'em, bend over and spread' part of the exam was especially poignant.
We were in Newark during the Newark Riots and the tear gas from the night before was still wafting across the river.

DashboardBuddha June 16, 2011 at 7:30 pm

well…at least your handle is accurate – No man.

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