• May 26, 2012

Baja Arizona Trying To Divorce Wingnut Arizona

by Ken Layne  

Give a hoot.For those Americans who think of Arizona at all, there are two distinct parts of the forty-eighth state: the beautiful natural scenery and the awful white residents. But a brave band of liberal revolutionaries in the smart-person stronghold of Pima County is reviving a 45-year-old plan to split Tuscon and the surrounding Sonoran desert from those hideous cretins in their Phoenix hellscape. On next year’s presidential ballot, the secession of “Baja Arizona” will go to the voters. And if the whole state or the legislature or some confusing combination allows it, and the nincompoops in Congress grant it, Baja Arizona will become America’s 51st state … just in time for being sold back to Mexico with the rest of the Southwest, so Washington can pay its bills, because Washington will not collect taxes from the ultra-rich and the mega-corporations, because it’s only patriotic to collect taxes from working people.

One of the many secondary tragedies related to the greater tragedy of the massacre at that suburban Safeway grocery store in January is that the rest of the nation got the idea Tucson was just another stretch of shitty strip malls and foreclosure ghost towns and wandering crazy people like Jared Loughner. This is untrue. All the southwest cities are now ringed with these repulsive stucco ghettos, and the evil bankers and developers and housing speculators dumped their garbage over the desert foothills around Tucson, too. But Tucson itself is a lovely university town with funky nightlife and great food and a gazillion miles of hiking and bicycling trails, as well as being home to many beloved oddballs and artists over the decades, including Edward Abbey, Linda Ronstadt, Dr. Andrew Weil, Mo & Stew Udall, Margaret Sanger, David Foster Wallace, Joan Baez, Barbara Kingsolver and the musical family of Giant Sand/Calexico. It would be a fine capital town.

But it would be even better to join up with the Navajo Nation and the Hopi Nation and the Sedona/Verde Valley counties and the national parklands of Grand Canyon and Saguaro and Organ Pipe and encircle the evil Phoenix/Maricopa flatlands full of swollen white suburban swine. Wall it in. Let ‘em call for an airlift of Hoverounds and anusburgers and diabetes medicine. For America! For Arizona! [Reuters]

{ 172 comments }

nounverb911 May 10, 2011 at 2:53 pm

Finish the DANG fence!

WorkTheSaxofone May 10, 2011 at 2:55 pm

I've been to Phoenix once and to Tucson once and this makes a lot of sense to me.

Lascauxcaveman May 10, 2011 at 5:26 pm

They talk about this every once in awhile out in Washington state. Split the state down the Cascade mountain range, dividing it into the latte-libs of cosmopolitan Western Washington and rootin' tooting gunslinging cowboys of agricultural Eastern Washington.

I'd be all for it if it didn't mean those assholes east of the Cascades got two senators in the other Washington.

emmelemm May 10, 2011 at 9:01 pm

Right – the key here is not to create more states within the United States of America. Within the current system, that clearly creates MORE power for wingnuts. We're talking full-on secession here – our own Congress and such.

WorkTheSaxofone May 11, 2011 at 12:07 am

WA native here. Born in Pasco, going gray in Olympia.

MissTaken May 10, 2011 at 2:56 pm

"swollen white suburban swine"

Isn't that the Arizona state motto?

Hatrabbit May 10, 2011 at 3:04 pm

Only if yelled while shooting an assault rifle into the air.

DaRooster May 10, 2011 at 3:42 pm

I think its the State Animal, ain't it… with Truck Nuts?

walstib May 10, 2011 at 2:57 pm

Can't we just sell McCain, Kyl, Brewer and that pink panty Sheriff to Mexico and be done with the whole thing?

Gopherit May 10, 2011 at 2:57 pm

The best part of this is they will likely put their wall along the Pinal/Maricopa county and Pima County border. That's just fine with me. I want a checkpoint for anyone who wants to come in……..also, would it be okay if we burned the Tucson burbs to the ground? Really, 90% of those people only live here TO BUILD MORE HOUSES. So fucking stupid.

Ken Layne May 10, 2011 at 3:52 pm

I feel your pain, in my gut. Like when a shitty new tract appears where there used to be creek beds and palos verdes and cactus gardens and the first occupied houses have "Granite Construction" pickups in the driveway?

So happy that era is over. (Crosses fingers.)

V572..whatever May 10, 2011 at 4:28 pm

No! No! Every trim carpenter from San Ysidro to Pahrump prays you're wrong!

Pithaughn May 10, 2011 at 7:05 pm

What about Tucson to Tucumcari
Tehachapi to Tonopah?
Golly I love my south west but really hate the wanton destruction just for short term material wealth.
In my life time I have seen literally hundreds of thousands of acres carved up by motor sports , and still they bitch and moan if a few measly acres or roads are closed so that the land can heal itself.

V572..whatever May 10, 2011 at 7:21 pm

Useless motor vehicles tearing up the desert = freedom! Go over to any auto website and prepare to face a firestorm of “libertarian” abuse if you suggest otherwise. And shouldn’t that be “Tucson to Tucumcari, Techachapi to Tonopah”? Why, yes it should:
http://www.digihitch.com/road-culture/music-lyric...

And if the suburban homebuilding/land-raping industry thinks we’re going to be back where we were any time soon, they’re in for a big disappointment. It was a good long ride, but it’s over.

mormos May 10, 2011 at 10:53 pm

The Albuquerque valley in New Mexico existed as a beautiful oasis full of cottonwoods and prairie grass in the desert. But we've bulldozed most of the vegetation into flat dirt lots that they will build houses on some day in the future maybe. Now with all the erosion we have dust storms at least once a week.

*Sigh*, my beautiful home…

not that Dewey May 11, 2011 at 3:32 am

Luckily (or not), Socorro has been spared much of that "prosperity" and "development". Sure, the wind is rough right now, but we don't get the dust white-outs on the highway like they do in Belen or (gasp!) the "West Side".

MissTaken May 10, 2011 at 2:58 pm

Don't forget about us in Northern California. Fucking SoCal (sorry Ken!) keeps taking all our water for their swimming pools, those bastards.

memzilla May 10, 2011 at 3:02 pm

As for the rest: Ein Volk! Ein Reich! Zwei TruckNutz!

DaRooster May 10, 2011 at 3:44 pm

Yep, Nor-Cal!! Gotta do it.

Cicada May 10, 2011 at 5:16 pm

I'd boot out SoCal just because of the Lakers. Oh, and fucking Orange County.

mormos May 10, 2011 at 10:46 pm

lol it's true. I was born & raised in SoCal. Their philosophy is basically, "fuck you, we're more important."

dr_giraud May 11, 2011 at 1:14 pm

Downstate NY? Oh fuck no, unless you want Western Upstate to send Gov. Sen. Congressman for Life Carl Paladino to Washington, D.C.

Tengu May 10, 2011 at 2:58 pm

Amerizona?

nounverb911 May 10, 2011 at 3:00 pm

Sounds Brazilian.

ManchuCandidate May 10, 2011 at 3:03 pm

Tuscon has a landing strip, right?

nounverb911 May 10, 2011 at 3:07 pm

Where's Bristol's house?

ManchuCandidate May 10, 2011 at 3:26 pm

Not Tuscon apparently. It's in the north in Buninoven County.

OneDollarJuana May 10, 2011 at 3:25 pm

Does Tucson have a landing strip? Or is it totally shaved and bare?

ManchuCandidate May 10, 2011 at 3:50 pm

Tuscon International has one bare strip.

V572..whatever May 10, 2011 at 4:31 pm

Nice little aeropuerto called Tucson International. Quite the setup.

Gopherit May 10, 2011 at 4:57 pm

Don't forget Davis-Monthan. We have A-10s, bitches.

nounverb911 May 10, 2011 at 2:59 pm

Don't forget about Texas while we are giving things away.

blinky_twinkie May 10, 2011 at 3:00 pm

Hell, give 'em Southern California while we're at it. Mexico can have everything south of Gilroy, as far as I'm concerned.

Arken May 10, 2011 at 3:13 pm

Fine with me here in L.A. I could use universal healthcare.

V572..whatever May 10, 2011 at 4:27 pm

Plus chilaquiles with green tomatillo sauce for breakfast every damn morning — mmmm, good!

GuyClinch May 10, 2011 at 2:59 pm

Governor Giffords, anyone?

nounverb911 May 10, 2011 at 3:12 pm

Pretty Please!

V572..whatever May 10, 2011 at 4:32 pm

No, she's running for Senate, although it's not clear if she knows it yet. Now that the great statesman John Kyl(e) has announced his retirement in humiliation and disgrace, there's a seat open.

SorosBot May 10, 2011 at 3:00 pm

Splitters!

jqheywood May 10, 2011 at 4:14 pm

What have the Phoenicians ever done for us?

Well, there is the ….hmmm….actually, not a damn thing!

SorosBot May 10, 2011 at 4:51 pm

The Phoenicians gave us the phonetic alphabet, for one! But nothing lately since they ceased to exist as their own culture after Alexander the Great conquered their homeland and Rome destroyed Carthage.

jqheywood May 10, 2011 at 5:02 pm

Not those Phoenicians, silly….the hoverbots in the Valley of the Sun!

Gawd, I am soooo glad I escaped from there 33 years ago. And for those proposing Baja Arizona….please include Flagstaff & the Canyon. Those folks, with whom I dwelt for 4 blessed years at NAU, do not deserve to be stuck with the Hell that is Maricopa County. They should also have liberal refugee policies for the good folk (like my family) trapped there.

not that Dewey May 11, 2011 at 3:45 am

Does "the Canyon" => Salt River Canyon? If so, I'm right there with you!

Any time I've driven to phx it was the thought of knowing that I would soon be driving back through the SRC that kept me going.

jqheywood May 10, 2011 at 5:03 pm

Oooh, and I forgot to add:

Carthago delenda est!

kissawookiee May 10, 2011 at 3:00 pm

As a Tucsonan, this sounds like a great idea until I remember that our esteemed governor just signed legislation permitting her to raise up a state militia (separate from the National Guard) if the actual Guard is currently mobilized by the Feds, or "for any reason the governor considers to be necessary.”

Guess which of those two justifying circumstances gives me pause. Especially if she decides to make Russell Pearce the Supreme High Nine-Star Militia General in Chief.

Ken Layne May 10, 2011 at 3:54 pm

You all can have a militia, too — to protect yourselves from the aggressive white devils of Phoenix.

kissawookiee May 10, 2011 at 4:09 pm

Dunno, it's shaping up to be Maricopalos with their unlicensed Uzis against Tucsonans flinging tortillas like frisbees. I suppose we'll go down, but it will be deliciously.

Gopherit May 10, 2011 at 4:59 pm

as a former Phoenician and a current Tucsonan, I must say I am not worried. I can just imagine a Militia out of Phoenix. It would look a lot like Sheriff Joe's Posse. Just take away their pudding and tell them it's nap time.

freakishlywrong May 10, 2011 at 3:01 pm

So funny. Awful white people have become so strident and intolerable, so gun-obsessed and deficit insane, we're going to secede from THEM.

Captain_Quark May 10, 2011 at 3:01 pm

Should you ever be sentenced to do time Arizona, your first choice of locale would be Tucson. Suicide is the second choice. Phoenix is a distant third.

I hope this divorce goes through. Maricopa can keep the repulsive stucco faux-pueblo in the ghetto. Tucson gets the kids and the cuisine.

kissawookiee May 10, 2011 at 3:04 pm

We will gladly hand them the Foothills and Marana. Everything north of the Rillito, actually–that way we get to keep our REI–and Vail.

4TheTurnstiles May 10, 2011 at 3:43 pm

Prescott ain't so bad. Arcosanti is good for nostalgia. &c.

jus_wonderin May 10, 2011 at 4:01 pm

More important question to ask, who gets the dog?

ManchuCandidate May 10, 2011 at 3:01 pm

The People's Democratic State of Tuscon

The official flag: The Jolly Roger
The official state motto: Fuck you crazy wingnuts

Allmighty_Manos May 10, 2011 at 3:01 pm

Of course this will condemn North Arizona to permanent domination by racist old white people for at least a generation. Brewer would likely build a wall seperating the two states.

kissawookiee May 10, 2011 at 3:17 pm

Flagstaff is welcome to come along as our Upper Peninsula.

horsedreamer_1 May 10, 2011 at 3:36 pm

More apt, Flagstaff would be Baja's Kaliningrad.

GhostBuggy May 10, 2011 at 5:06 pm

Here in Michigan, we went to war with Ohio and got the U.P. as a reward. We wanted Toledo from those buckeye bastards. Peninsulas only come with (threats of) violence, is what I guess I'm saying.

Hatrabbit May 10, 2011 at 3:02 pm

This is a great idea, and as a bonus it will induce a hilarious tsunami of Teatard righteous indignation.

DemmeFatale May 10, 2011 at 3:13 pm

A bunch of Yosemite Sams with steam billowing from their ears!

anniegetyerfun May 10, 2011 at 3:02 pm

LIBERAL secessionists? The mind, it boggles.

nounverb911 May 10, 2011 at 3:04 pm

The not-so-civil war over water rights will be hilarious.

MistaEko May 10, 2011 at 4:09 pm

H.R. 1 of the first Congress of Baja Arizona – Motion to Join California

V572..whatever May 10, 2011 at 4:34 pm

Which gets its water from Colorado….

edgydrifter May 10, 2011 at 3:05 pm

"Baja" sounds a bit too ethnic. If they want to get the white Phoenix vote, they should call it something a little WASPier, like West Carolina or maybe South Hampshire.

Ken Layne May 10, 2011 at 3:56 pm

Remember, they want Phoenix to *agree* with Tucson secession. So the more Mexican-y it sounds, the more the old white slobs of Phoenix will support splitting the state. Caint have Mescan parts in U.S. Arizona!

Weenus299 May 10, 2011 at 3:05 pm

Sure, why not? Stoners have to live somewhere.

elviouslyqueer May 10, 2011 at 3:06 pm

Hell, Memphis and Nashville have wanted to secede from the rest of Tennessee since the day after statehood was granted. Sorry Knoxville, but you're on your own (and good luck with that whole Baptist boyfucker Stacey Campfield thing).

Maman May 10, 2011 at 3:11 pm

Will they have to go to war with New Mexico to get that piece of Baja?

TsunamiAli May 10, 2011 at 3:12 pm

I can't decide whether Linda Ronstadt is an "artist" or an "oddball."

DaRooster May 10, 2011 at 3:53 pm

Yes…

jus_wonderin May 10, 2011 at 4:04 pm

I love Linda. I had the biggest crush on her at 17. Now at 52….I can see she could literally crush me.

TsunamiAli May 10, 2011 at 4:08 pm

"Blue Bayou" is one of my favorite songs, but not for people standing nearby while I (attempt to) sing it.

Lionel[redacted]Esq May 10, 2011 at 3:13 pm

This won't attract enough attention until they also say they will adopt the Amero as the official currency of Baja.

loulouroo May 10, 2011 at 3:13 pm

We in New Orleans have not considered ourselves part of the US, let alone bumfuck Louisiana for hundreds of years and we were proven correct during Katrina. Our emotional, artistic and political secession has kept us alive inside. We don't even consider our suburbs above Lake Pontchartrain as anything more than lower Mississippi. Lafayette can come along with us, but damn the rest of this Hellhole, backwards place.

elviouslyqueer May 10, 2011 at 3:33 pm

I've always thought anything north of Alexandria should be ceded to Arkansas. And if we could dig a trench around Baton Rouge and float it out to the Gulf, that would work too.

Ken Layne May 10, 2011 at 4:10 pm

Anything west of "Old Metairie" or north of Bucktown or anywhere out on Chef Menteur hwy was a foreign country when I was growing up in New Orleans.

Going back to visit or occasionally live in NOLA as an adult, my territory grew smaller still — basically a walking/streetcar/taxi zone from Carrollton Station on the west side and my old neighborhood the lower ninth on the east.

elviouslyqueer May 10, 2011 at 4:26 pm

Shoot, try living on the Westbank. Once people on the Eastbank heard you were from "Across the Bridge," you might as well have said you were from Mars.

Mind you, coming up I-10, climbing what I referred to as "The Big Up" overpass, and seeing the downtown skyline still makes my heart leap TO THIS DAY.

Cicada May 10, 2011 at 3:14 pm

I'm jealous. As a librul who's lived on both coasts (for double the elitism!), I've often wished I could secede from Jesusfucktardistan.
Of course, as a D.C. resident I'll be a little bitter if Baja Arizona becomes the 51st state before the District. Ah well.

emmelemm May 10, 2011 at 3:42 pm

Ditto. (Except for now residing in D.C. You're on your own there.)

Gopherit May 10, 2011 at 4:54 pm

But there are a lot of brown people in DC.

qwerty42 May 10, 2011 at 3:16 pm

Interestingly, southern Arizona is the Arizona portion of the Arizona Territory (CSA).

not that Dewey May 11, 2011 at 4:17 am

That's some good readin' over there. esp:

"The social and political condition of Arizona being little short of general anarchy, and the people being literally destitute of law, order, and protection, the said Territory, from the date hereof, is hereby declared temporarily organized as a military government until such time as Congress may otherwise provide."

– LtCol. John R. Baylor, CSA

It seems as though not much has changed since then.

As much as I generally despise Civil War re-enactments, this weekend marks the 150th anniversary of "Getting the Texans the hell out of New Mexico*", and I think I may go watch.

*Of course, it didn't work. They eventually came back. But without slavery, this time.

BaldarTFlagass May 10, 2011 at 3:17 pm

Hey, and they can refurb all them airplanes down at the Boneyard at Davis-Monthan, start their own Air Force, and bomb the shit out of Phoenix. Oh, wait, that's war-mongering! Sorry. *looks all contrite*

Biel_ze_Bubba May 11, 2011 at 1:30 am

Worked for John Travolta in Battlefield Earth. A cult classic that became, well, a cult classic.

emmelemm May 10, 2011 at 3:18 pm

So, when Washington, Oregon and California split off to make their own country, maybe we can include Baja Arizona and have regular airlifts. Of course, Teabaggazona would probably shoot our planes out of the sky when they cross over enemy airspace.

TsunamiAli May 10, 2011 at 3:30 pm

I think ecotopia for realz would be great if it doesn't have the middle-aged crisis-y angst of the novel.

Swampgas_Man May 10, 2011 at 3:18 pm

Waitaminnit, who's taking Florida? Don't tell me we're still stuck w/ the Penis-State!

nounverb911 May 10, 2011 at 3:20 pm

A good category five hurricane should take care of it in a jiffy.

Lascauxcaveman May 10, 2011 at 5:29 pm

We might not see one of those before the polar ice caps melt enough to make it a moot point.

CZL May 10, 2011 at 4:53 pm

I hear relations with Cuba are warming.

Pragmatist2 May 10, 2011 at 3:22 pm

I think it should just have an affair with New Mexico.

Bonzos_Bed_Time May 10, 2011 at 3:23 pm

Please to the encirclement thing, as Prescott, Flagstaff, Sedona are too nice to give up.

Gopherit May 10, 2011 at 4:55 pm

but have you met the people in Prescott and Sedona? I'm cool with keeping Flag, though.

Bonzos_Bed_Time May 11, 2011 at 1:46 am

We all have to make some compromises… I'm not willing to let that beautiful area fall to the heathens!

sarjo May 10, 2011 at 3:31 pm

Could this whole "America" thing get a re-do? Because I really do think a turkey was better choice of national bird than old weepy eagle.

BTWBFDIMHO May 10, 2011 at 3:31 pm

So liberal that cowboy, he doesn't know how to shoot his foot.

Ken Layne May 10, 2011 at 4:11 pm

That's Cactus Ed Abbey, hoss.

donner_froh May 10, 2011 at 3:35 pm

Tuscon is as hot as a motherfucker and I would love to live there based on spending a week there.

Phoenix is as hot as a motherfucker and I would hate to live there based on spending less than 24 hours in town.

Ruhe May 10, 2011 at 4:01 pm

Same experience. Same conclusion. The valley of the sun is just America in the heat. Tucson is some place else.

horsedreamer_1 May 10, 2011 at 3:38 pm

This is the plot of Hamlet 3.

fuflans May 10, 2011 at 8:43 pm

loved that movie…

mumbly_joe May 10, 2011 at 3:39 pm

But if Baja Arizona seceeds, then how will they COMPLETE THE DANGED FENCE, HENNNGGH??

jus_wonderin May 10, 2011 at 3:40 pm

I am pray that this could happen.

metamarcisf May 10, 2011 at 3:41 pm

Assuming the secession plan works, what could be a better outcome than to award the 2020 Summer Olympics to Southern Arizona?

iburl May 10, 2011 at 3:47 pm

51 is an awful number… let's make it 60…

51 – Baja Arizona
52 – Washington District of Columbia
53 – Austin (Texas will have to move the capital to Dallas, I guess)
54 – Northern California
55 – Puerto Rico
56 – Guam
57 – Virgin Islands
58 – Samoa
59 – Northern Mariana Islands
60 – Afghanistan

pinkocommi May 10, 2011 at 4:07 pm

You forgot Rileyland!

Chet Kincaid May 10, 2011 at 4:11 pm

How could you forget Israel, you awful anti-semite?! No honorary degrees for you!

fartknocker May 10, 2011 at 4:16 pm

I'll help Rick and Anita GoodHair pack if you can make this happen.

JohnyEdge May 10, 2011 at 4:29 pm

Woooo—eeeee! Then I'd live in the Capital of Texas!

If you don't visit the suburbs, then Dallas isn't all that bad–but that might apply anywhere.

undeterredbyreality May 10, 2011 at 5:01 pm

Northern Cal, Western Oregon & Western Washington–renamed New Ecotopia.

BaldarTFlagass May 10, 2011 at 5:11 pm

It would be much more appropriate for Texas to move the capital to Vidor or Jasper.

thefrontpage May 10, 2011 at 3:51 pm

Here's part of the political platform for the new liberal state, which is tentatively scheduled to be called The Liberal State for Normal People of Southern Arizona (LSNPSA):

1. Legalize prostitution.

2. Legalize casino gambling, lotteries, horse racing and keno.

3. Legalize bingo.

4. The legal drinking age will be 18.

5. Driver's licenses will be issued at 15.

6. Adult magazines may be displayed in convenience stores without a plastic covering.

7. There will be no limitations on adult bookstores, strip clubs and massage parlors.

8. Marijuana will be legal, for all purposes, not just medicinal.

9. The legal age of consent will be 16 for everyone.

10. There will be no state taxes, estate taxes, property taxes or food taxes.

horsedreamer_1 May 10, 2011 at 4:01 pm

Is this Baja, or Macao?

poncho_pilot May 10, 2011 at 4:22 pm

Bohica Macaca. also, too, as well.

Biel_ze_Bubba May 11, 2011 at 1:35 am

Um… wouldn't 'no taxes' be the rule in Teabagistan, the other half of AZ?

GregComlish May 10, 2011 at 3:52 pm

Will the Republicans have to support secession on principle? Or is secession only sacrosanct when you are defending slavery?

poncho_pilot May 10, 2011 at 4:06 pm

hahahaha. consistency? hahahaha.

jus_wonderin May 10, 2011 at 3:52 pm

Salsa Donut?

horsedreamer_1 May 10, 2011 at 3:58 pm

Empanada?

DashboardBuddha May 10, 2011 at 3:53 pm

Good for them. Go for it, I say.

Monsieur_Grumpe May 10, 2011 at 3:55 pm

Why stop at Arizona? Let's take a look at the rest of the states.

Geminisunmars May 10, 2011 at 3:56 pm

But who will get the kids?

Ruhe May 10, 2011 at 3:59 pm

I was out there on business in February and had to fly into Phoenix before driving on to Tucson. After deplaning and getting our car we wanted to stop for some lunch and as we drove along the main southward expressway the only food options appeared to be every known variety of chain restaurant. We settled on Wendy's cause Frostys for the drive, natch. I can tell you though that once in the beautiful confines of Pima County I did not eat at, let alone see, fast food chains for a full five days. It was like being in Chicago in the desert. Good food and good beer everywhere. I looked hard for fat people and did not see any of those either. Strange.

DahBoner May 10, 2011 at 4:14 pm

You couldn't find good food options right next to the freeway in PHX?

That's odd, because in the rest of America, all the Michelin Five Star restaurant are always located right next to the Interstate freeways…

Ruhe May 10, 2011 at 4:26 pm

Are you…snarking my snark by inferring that I'm somehow too snooty and lazy to find the good in Phoenix? Ouch, dude. Seriously. The point, which I didn't present in a sufficiently remedial fashion, was that one did not have to look hard to find good options in Tucson. And by good options I don't at all mean Five Stars. Hell, in Cincinnati, where I live, Five Guys looks like an interesting option.

DahBoner May 10, 2011 at 5:55 pm

Ha, ha–Phoenix has better restaurants than Tucson. But they're not located next to any freeways.

Phoenix has better Mexican food than Tucson. Try Barrio, in the barrio, of course: http://www.barriorestaurant.com/

Phoenix has better Vietnamese food than Tucson. Try this hole in the wall in Tempe (the best Vietnamese restaurant in America–outside of Minneapolis): http://www.yelp.com/biz/khai-hoan-restaurant-temp...

Tucson is more of a college town, which means pizza and beer, and bland ethnic food because most 18 year old college students don't have very adventurous paletes.

You want pizza?

Hell, according to the New York Times, Phoenix has the best pizza in America: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/07/dining/the-road...

BTW, according to the AZ DMV, the majority of new residents in Maricopa county are assholes from Chicago…

Doktor Zoom May 10, 2011 at 10:37 pm

"Phoenix has better Mexican food than Tucson."

Them's fightin' words, mister.

BaldarTFlagass May 10, 2011 at 5:10 pm

Mi Nidito over on South 4th has a pretty damn good breakfast, but get there early or expect a long wait.

poncho_pilot May 10, 2011 at 4:10 pm

i'm totally moving back to Madison, WI if Dane County would be willing to secede. 61st State, motherfuckers.

DahBoner May 10, 2011 at 4:10 pm

Flagstaff is mainly Mormons, cowboys and alcoholic teachers trying to get their MRS degrees…

DustBowlBlues May 10, 2011 at 4:44 pm

I love Flagstaff. Last time we were there (all we ever do is drive through it on our way to Las Vegas) we bought a lovely piece of glass art from a downtown gallery–with a sign in the window for the Democrat who ran against Brewer.

Limeylizzie May 10, 2011 at 4:46 pm

It's really pretty though, I stayed there last year and it was beautiful but I felt that they wouldn't truly have loved and understood me there.

Ken Layne May 10, 2011 at 6:19 pm

They would love you in Sedona. They are tolerant people there — they even tolerate John McCain during his twice-yearly visits to his gargantuan tacky faux-adobe house!

Limeylizzie May 10, 2011 at 7:02 pm

Aww, thanks, I will visit f I can schedule it when Walnuts won't be there

ChessieNefercat May 10, 2011 at 4:59 pm

"alcoholic teachers trying to get their MRS degrees… " ***

Goodness gracious, I haven't heard the term "MRS degree" since my high school English teacher asked all of us girls if that was why we were going to college. This was back, ah, shortly before our great nation's bicentennial whoop-de-doo.

***So you can be a teacher in Flagstaff without a degree?

Fare la Volpe May 10, 2011 at 4:21 pm

I hope this starts a trend. Next goes Austin and certain parts of Houston (gerrymander the fuck out of that bad boy). Then New Orleans. Then finally THE WORLD.

Sorry, channeling my inner Raul Julia.

MinAgain May 10, 2011 at 4:25 pm

Arizona, put on your rainbow shades!

kissawookiee May 10, 2011 at 4:30 pm

Perhaps this is why Bristle is packing up her new chin and fleeing to LA and the welcoming arms of those two nice young black men: she fears the coming secession war, and its inevitable accompanying iconic tableau featuring Jan Brewer strutting on a stage with jodhpurs and a riding crop in front of a giant flag. Or dang fence. Or Mexicans (Asians? who can tell?) in pink underwear. Also.

HistoriCat May 11, 2011 at 12:29 am

"Jan Brewer strutting on a stage with jodhpurs" – that's a visual I really, really did not need.

BklynIlluminati May 10, 2011 at 4:31 pm

No not Baja Arizona how about Libralstan?

bigdupa May 10, 2011 at 4:40 pm

Just returned from a week in Tucson. AZ lawmakers would pass laws that cover the whole state except "counties with over 1.5 million people' = only Maricopa. Even the Republicans in Tuscon were getting irate. Readily available hard liquor, porn, guns and cheapest gas in the Estados Unidos- Tucson has it all!

DustBowlBlues May 10, 2011 at 4:43 pm

I read in online newspaper called the PhoenixNewsTimes, which is a pretty entertaining little spot to stop by when you're using the netwebtubes, that our convict mayor-elect didn't get his pardon.

I figured committing a drive by with a gun would be cool in Arizona, you know, because criminals have 2nd. Amendment rights, too. Since the pardon was denied, I'm assuming he didn't shoot a Mexcun.

Sophist [غني عن ذلك] May 10, 2011 at 4:47 pm

This is a terrible idea. As Lincoln famously said, a meth-lab divided against itself cannot stand.

DustBowlBlues May 10, 2011 at 4:50 pm

During the years I lived in Seattle, I thought dividing Washington and Oregon along the Cascades, then forming two new states. The cool, liberal west coast state where everyone wants to live, and the ugly mess that is the other state. Call them Washington and Lincoln. No, Orewash and Fillmore.

DustBowlBlues May 10, 2011 at 4:54 pm

Rearrangement of the states does not bode well for the 3 or 4 dozen of we liberals here in the Dust Bowl.

Ed. note: I really agonized over we or us. We sounds better, but following of, it seems like it should have been objective case us.

Can I get a call from one of you punning English major losers? I know there are more of you out there in wonkland than there are liberals in Oklahoma.

Gopherit May 10, 2011 at 5:05 pm

Weezuns?

undeterredbyreality May 10, 2011 at 5:08 pm

Hey, yer the one who said "objective case," loser. . .

ChessieNefercat May 10, 2011 at 5:12 pm

Clean out all of the extra words like so:
"This does not bode well for the four of *us.*"

This usually works for me without having to try to remember what in hell a transitive verb is or the difference between lie, lay, lain, and lay, laid, laid. Latin is easier.

English major people! Am I wrong?
Thank you!

kissawookiee May 10, 2011 at 5:23 pm

I can only upfist you once for this, so to make up for it I will spend the rest of the afternoon weeping with quiet gratitude. Grammar gets me right *there,* know what I mean?

ChessieNefercat May 10, 2011 at 6:42 pm

Aw, shucks. I know what you mean.

Edit: I mean: Yes, I know what you mean.
Now it's worse. I think I'll shut up.

WriteyWriterton May 10, 2011 at 5:38 pm

Expertly solved, with the additional always-valuable Strunk-and-White-y reminder to "Clean out all of the extra words…"

poncho_pilot May 10, 2011 at 5:27 pm

i think overly complicating that sentence would be better:

The Rearrangement and Separation of States comprising these United States into smaller States does not, upon the completion of said Rearrangement and Separation, bode well for the potentially partially full Egg Flat of We, the few Liberals residing in the State of Oklahoma–henceforth known as the Dust Bowl and whereas a Citizen resides in the Dust Bowl, He, or She, shall be regarded as a Dust Bowl American, a Dust Bowler, or Bowl Duster but never shall They be offically regarded as Dowl Busters, Bust Dowlers, or Okefenokees.

DustBowlBlues May 10, 2011 at 6:20 pm

Did you get a law degree after you realized you couldn't get a job with that BA in English? Or do you write credit agreements for bank cards?

poncho_pilot May 10, 2011 at 6:42 pm

Dear Madam and/or Sir,

At present, I am simply an uneducated and unemployed "Kept Man". Future Prospects might include, and are not limited to, Presidency of the local Shiftless Layabout Union Chapter, Looters 801 where I expect to draw a Salary of Thirty (30) Cans of Hobo Beans Per Month or One (1) Can Per Day on the Odd Months if I am Victorious in Knife Combat against the other Hobos and Stray Dogs. If elected I promise to do no more and no less than the previous President. I would greatly appreciate your Endorsement in Support of my Campaign. God Bless America; a Land where a Hobo can rise above his Inherent Worthlessness and become more Worthless still, but with a Title.

Sincerely,
Poncho Alameda Hernandez Consuela Vladimir Blitzen Pilot, Esq. III

emmelemm May 10, 2011 at 8:48 pm

Now that, sir, was truly awesome.

ChessieNefercat May 10, 2011 at 6:46 pm

Mmm, the italics on United are a nice touch.

Boy, nothing like putting your two cents in on a grammar question, to suddenly be afraid of writing anything.

poncho_pilot May 10, 2011 at 7:08 pm

i was very bored. i'm sure there are grammatical errors in my above two comments. the older i get the more i find i don't remember how to do correctly. like grammar. and math. and functioning day-to-day. and i'm only 32.

BZ1 May 10, 2011 at 5:47 pm

There are sane people in Arizona? Who knew??

GeneralLerong May 10, 2011 at 5:58 pm

Cut off the water to Phoenix and watch it shrivel like a baked bowl o' worms.

And where will the refugees from Sun City move, you ask? Ay, that must needs give us pause.

salt_bagel May 10, 2011 at 6:14 pm

My anusburger is well done, and I only wanted medium well. I'd like to speak to a manager. SOMEONE WHO HABLA EENGLASE–COMPRENDE?

ttommyunger May 10, 2011 at 10:18 pm

Governor Drinky is about to put on her "Don't make me pull over!" face… Dream on, it will never happen.

Negropolis May 11, 2011 at 2:37 am

Michigan's Upper Peninsula tries to get away from the rest of us every once in awhile (they want to call themselves "Superior" – how cute), but we'll never let go of that sweet, precious ore.

You Yoopers will get away from us the minute you burn that bridge. I dare you. But, don't forget we can retrofit some Detroit-based freighters as warships to retake you. You best call Canada.

AznMom420 May 11, 2011 at 5:32 am

Nothing to reinvigorate the urban poor of the rustbelt like a good old invasion flotilla. Imagine the rapening hordes of detroit afloat on the lake like some sort of mad max wet dream.

sati_demise May 11, 2011 at 1:14 pm

My carpenters, who happen to be teh old Az. natives, inform me that this battle has been going on for decades…..ever since Phoenix stole the capitol building from Tucson and moved it to Phoenix. (after Tucson stole the capitol from Prescott by getting one guy really drunk with a paid in advance prostitute). So, the capitol went from Prescott to Tucson to Phoenix. No one ever got over it.

Joey_Ratz May 11, 2011 at 7:19 pm

Tucson's a nice enough place; I'm moving away in a month, and there are a lot of things I'll miss. The rest of AZ, however…

Oh, and this is a good article about the Baja as well:
http://www.economist.com/node/18486323

Beetagger May 11, 2011 at 8:00 pm

"Phoenix, Arizona: an oasis of ugliness in the midst of a beautiful wasteland." –Edward Abbey

Infrogmation May 13, 2011 at 3:23 pm

The Free State of New Orleans!

Fare la Volpe May 10, 2011 at 4:18 pm

And every summer it starts burning.

BaldarTFlagass May 10, 2011 at 5:02 pm

I like how the commercial airliners have to dodge the Guard F-16s at TUS. I don't think I've ever flown into there when the ANG wasn't flying. Loud!

V572..whatever May 11, 2011 at 4:54 pm

And you’ll probably want to keep Fort Huachuca, too.

Pithaughn May 11, 2011 at 1:37 pm

Hey V,
Thanks for the link to digihitch.com ! Wonderful tales.

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