Pamela Geller is best known for hating Muslims, but she can be called in to provide the equal-time case for other forms of bigotry too. Here we see Fox Business channel, which is ostensibly a channel about business, but which has apparently seen the need to make a huge copy of the president’s birth certificate so they can gesticulate at it. But this is fair! The panel’s liberal can gesticulate at it to prove how real it seems, if she thinks that’s going to help her ridiculous case that the president has a birth certificate.
And here is Alex Jones, who is very reluctant to talk about this, but c’mon, one of his “Photoshop guys,” the only one whose ponytail was presentable enough to go on camera, says it’s laughable how poorly Photoshopped this document that was released by the state of Hawaii is.
The scramble to have an opinion on why facts aren’t facts is always a profitable enterprise these days, but the birthers should be commended on their continued fealty to misinformation and casual bigotry. [Media Matters/YouTube]







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How many "after-birthers" does it take to change a light bulb?
Doesn't matter, they will never see the light.
"After-birthers"! Pure gold coinage! Well snarked!
Big bloody blob bags .
A2: They don't have light bulbs in the Dark Ages.
I think people are being way too harsh with these poor mentally challenged birthers. It is obvious that they breeched and see everything bass ackward
Sick. And I don't mean it in the way surfers refer to waves.
…the only one whose ponytail was presentable enough to go on camera…
Objection! Your honor, Jack is badgering the witless!
P.S. Pammy Atlas, you say?
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what the hell is j lo's twin brother doing on fox business channel?
Performing his drag act. Kinda obvious isn't it?
A really bad drag act.
This is why you shouldn't eat paste or lead paint chips as a kid.
If God didn't want me to eat lead paint, he wouldn't have made them so delicious.
I have an opinion on Birthers. But the exact language of such an opinion likely wouldn't be acceptable for broadcast on television under current FCC standards.
But that's why WE'RE here.
Go for it. Think of the upfists!
I'm glad they're covering this, because it's really really important.
It's either this or the royal wedding between Prince Myron and Ladyhawke, or whatevs. Only way to avoid either topic right now is self-inflicted 2nd amendment solution.
Milking this for all it's worth, eh, Jack?
Everyone else is. Why shouldn't Wonkette get in on the fun?
Got anything funnier to talk about today? Hmmm?
Hhhnnnggh?
The white iPhone?
The line of people outside the apple store this morning? What's their deal?
What, they're supposed to prefer having some black thing in and around their mouth area?
The Snowbilly talking shit about Katie Couric? Cuz those nonsensical mouth farts made me for to laff.
Now, comrad, this kind of attitude will not induce Jack to start writing about the royal wedding no matter how much you whine. So just put on those big-girl panties and deal with it, mmm'kay?
So wait, who's that lady with all the terrible plastic surgery? I want to see a face certificate.
Careful. Risk of angina dentata if viewed without proper precaution.
She only has the long receipt… like the ones from Rite Aid.
Why don't we just start calling the afterbirthers "placenta people"?
The stupid–it burns.
Mark Twain said, "Never let the facts get in the way of a good story" Apparently he was wrong, since this isn't a good story.
Plato said something similar about the way a wise man (Sophist) might sway opinion by playing upon the difference between a true story and a likely story. Clearly in the small minds of many Americans a dark skinned President who is actually a citizen and not a mole seems very unlikely.
This was on Fox Business News? So, like only five people saw it?
It should be called Not CNBC Business News
Hm, a Geller/Jones crazy-off could be fun to watch, in a train-wreck sort of way. Though it might just descend into a contest in bigotry, with Geller's hatred of Muslims going off against Jones' hatred of Jews until one proved they hate the most.
You can simulate that by playing both videos at once, though it's not nearly as cool as the 9-Grassley-videos-at-once experience.
AND THEN THEY FUCKED
THE END
Not the end. The end would be Adam Sandler having a new verse for the digitally-remastered "Hannukkah Song".
It would probably produce a variation on the Prandtl–Glauert singularity, but instead of a sudden drop in air pressure, it would produce a sudden drop in IQ, leading to a transference to the Penrose–Hawking singularity, i.e. a black hole. Beware the event horizon!
So, Regent's University issues long-form certificates in stupid? Check.
Canny WH move to marginalize the birfers, divide the GOP, and make them look like loons in the eyes of the independents they need to win an election? Mate.
I agree totally.
Yeah, okay, the president is smarter than I am. I was pissed that he brought out the certificate cause I wanted the Retards to stay divided, but this is better than ever what with all the tinfoil hats and lapsed lithium scripts. Hats off to you, Mr. President!
Another fine Kenyan Rope-A-Dope trick.
Yeah, all this birf sertificat nonsense is for the 23%ers who think W was a Great President Who Kept Us Safe. Everybody else knows it's nonsense and most of them just don't give a shit anyway.
It's a big chunk of the American population, 23%, enough to keep FOX News in business, anyway. Not enough to win presidential elections, however. It's going to take something a lot bigger if they want to kick out Obama in 2012. Preferably something that's, y'know, 'real.'
Fuck these rubes. They're an utter embarrassment.
What have you got against geek shows?
Dear President Obama,
Don't feed the trolls.
/s/ America
Come on, just say it guys.
"Show me your papers, boy."
That Pam Geller doesn't look white enough to be a real Merican. And that Alex Jones looks too white. Is he really a Canadian?
Unfortunately, Alex is the Shame of Austin TX.
Holy Fucking Shit! Why hasn't anyone stepped up and called these racist pricks out for what they are? Racist pricks….
We do it daily… but I think O is about to. That little clip yesterday of "We have more important things to worry about…" looked like he was about to add, "So look you fucking little weasels, yes I'm black and yes you are racist but if you don't want me to start beating you about the head and shoulders shut the fuck up and get to work."
Or some such shit.
It would be a wonderful day in my world, if for just 24 hours, O could channel the spirit of Rahm Emanuel. Or even the spirit of Ronald Reagan — pretend you don't know the mic is live while addressing the teatard nation and announce "FEMA Death Camps open in 5 minutes."
Lawrence O'Donnell and guest David Remnick (New Yorker editor and Obama biographer) actually "called a spade a spade" so to speak last night. So refreshing to actually hear it out loud: this is race baiting, pure and simple. Or rather despicable and simple-minded.
Maddow also flat-out stated that the birtherism is racist. But anywhere else in our mainstream media, calling someone racist is treated as if it's worse than racism itself, people won't even call Rush racist, and a lot of people jumped attack anyone who pointed out that Don Imus' "Nappy-headed hos" comment was really really racist. So don't hold your breath.
Calling anyone racist is itself racist, since The Blacks [tm Dondi] are actually running everything and oppressing all the rich white guys.
At this point, I would like someone to step on their racist pricks.
If you could find them under their racist bellies.
SOme are:
Face the Nation host Bob Schieffer appeared on The CBS Evening News last night and blasted Donald Trump's recent suggestion that President Obama might not have had the grades to get into Harvard Law School, TMZ reports.
Said Schieffer: "That's just code for saying he got into law school because he's black. This is an ugly strain of racism that's running through this whole thing."
AP posted a story on Yahoo, pointing out the racist underpinnings to the Birther Scum Movement. The comments are hilarious as the Birther Scum are now outraged that Obama is wasting time on producing his birth certificate instead of fixing the economy.
Because pointing out racism is now called "playing the race card"
Is that Larry Groznic with a young, Yankee (!) Christopher Hitchens?
There seems to be a thorazine shortage in this country.
Obama faked the moon landing with photoshop too.
I'd love to see Barack channel Buzz Aldrin & lay-out one of the Birthers.
80 years old Buzz attacking some new jack moon-landing denialist is one of our nation's proudest moments.
I'd like to see Obama lay-out one of the birthers, then rip off his latex human mask to reveal that he's a Gray.
Moon landing, schmoon landing. I think Buzz cold-cocking that idiot was the US Space Program's proudest moment.
Don't forget him on the Grassy Noll too.
I hear he poops chemtrails and sneezes orbs.
I need to get my wife a copy of photoshop and some training. The best she can fake is an orgasm, and even then I notice some pixelation around the edges.
Where's the even longer form birth certificate?
Meanwhile, the state of Hawaii photocopies the original to tamper-evident safety paper — a sensible precaution — and that's becomes the evidence that it's been tampered ("photoshopped"). Could the state officials have put safety paper in the copier before making the copy? Maybe? Possibly? Nah… no one is that sophisticated.
It's time we started taking Harvard PHD and bestiality afficionado Jerome Corsi serious-like. In today's World Net Daily, he advances the fool-proof argument that since twins born the day ofter Obama had lower birth certificate numbers (by 3 and 4), the document released yesterday is an obvious fake. Who can dispute this logic? I mean, like, whom?
I can. I have a higher social insurance number (Canada City Equivalent of Social Security number) than my 2 year younger sister. My parents didn't apply for me till my sister was born (apparently they were thinking about moving back to /redacted/ when I showed up.)
It happens.
Of course, left grasping at very thin, small straws that argument probably won't matter much to idiots like Corsi.
Yeah? Well now I'm starting to wonder about you! Where's your circumcision certificate?
If there was ever a dangling setup…
Your improper application of the pronoun renders your comment moot. Moot, I say!
"Whom is a made-up word used to trick students." – Creed Bratton
Presumably the postal worker who delivered more than one single birth registration at a time?
Oh wait, no, because postal workers are "government employees" and thus in on the conspiracy.
When I popped out my kid a few years ago, it took my husband and me 4 days to decide on his name. Thus we didn't sign the birf certificate until moments before we checked out. I have no doubt that dozens of kids with more name-prepared parents have BC numbers that are lower than my kid's, regardless of whether they were born a day or two afterward.
But, you know, Occam's Razor or whatever. Barry's BC is definitely a fake. That's the most efficient explanation.
We have to deal with this dimwit's little morsel as well:
"It's interesting that they finally give the, so-called authentic, birth certificate number in this supposedly unfaked photo. It is 151 1961 – 10641. The reason I bring this up, and I think the REAL reason this was masked, is because numerological analysis shows something very disturbing. If you add up the three sets of digits thus:
151 + 1961 + 10641 = 12753
and then add the individual digits of the result thus:
1 + 2 + 7 + 5 + 3 = 18
the final result, 18, is the product of three sixes (3 x 6 = 18). Three sixes, or 666, sort of speaks for itself. I just thought this was interesting."
If you made this up, you're a comic genius. If you didn't, well, I'll be drinking early today.
Excused me, but I've been away for a while, watching Al Jazeera and taking care of the family. Have Americans gone completely nuts over the past few weeks, while various Arabs were fighting for democracy and Barcelona beat Real Madrid (most of the time)?
I left just before the Trump made his appearance on the scene and only heard some of he rumors.
Now I'm not sure I want to even get back into the discussion. Is everyone stoned or something? Tell me what you're on.
We're high on life. Or meth…yeah it's probably meth.
We're all high on Jebus, because he's just another drug.
Also; too Donald Trump is the new President.
Welcome back.
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Lack of stonage is the problem, dude.
"Have Americans gone completely nuts over the past few weeks"
Years. Having a black President has driven a certain portion of the population completely around the bend.
Their heads asploded when the Negro was elected president, this is just more of the continuing sequelae of racist "asploded head syndrome."
As for what I am on, sir, well, I am taking every damn thing I can get my hands on, to be honest.
Oh oh catch that buzz
Love is the drug I'm thinking of
Oh oh can't you see
Love is the drug, got a hook in me
Oh oh catch that buzz
Love is the drug I'm thinking of
Oh oh can't you see
Love is the drug for me
Dave's not here, man.
if i were you i would stay whereever you were.
Alex Jones makes me proud to be a Martian.
S you're saying you don't have your Earth Certificate???
You know, they could all cut to the chase at this point and just say they don't like having a n***** for president. It would free up govt. employees in Hawaii to do other things.
Why am I humming "Surf Wax America", now?
Like what? Mentioning the existence of homosexuals? No, thank you!
Ball of flames kids. Going down in a ball of flames.
Hell in a handbasket.
Is that broad the one with the website named after the recently-released wildly successful film part one? Waddacunt.
You know, I was hoping birthers would drop this issue and move on to more pressing matters, like getting Blake Lively to prove her breasts are real, but nope. An opportunity to do some actual good, staring them right in the face. And yet, they fail again.
The only thing missing from their tired old song-and-dance routine is music.
Maybe they could make this a Very Special Episode of "Glee". There must be some kind of anti-bullying/stop being such an asshole theme they could pull out of it.
Thanks for innovative breakfast, Jack. Who knew rancid twinkie and vienna sausage went so well together?
Who's the dude with the long hair in the first video???
Don't kid yourself Jack. There is nothing casual about their bigotry.
Their bigotry is causal not casual.
"Trust me, I'm a professional (bigot)!"
"causal not casual"
Clever wordplay FTW.
After all this, the Congress won't have to worry on raising the debt ceiling. They wouldn't be able to raise it high enough to get any foreigns to invest in us.
Stop ignoring the bright side: These cousin-fuckers are finally reading something.
Journalistic ethics, you know, to be objective, you have to give both sides of the issue! Thats why Fox is "fair and balanced." Balanced, as in half total bullshit, and half twisted, misrepresented, spun distortions of the truth!
Apparently Lawrence O'Donell tried explaining it that way to Orly last night and when she refused to accept she had to experience the violence inherent in the system.
While contradictory evidence cannot debunk conspiracy thinking, it can make the conspirators EXTRA HILARIOUS. I hope birtherism never dies.
Predictably the d*ckheads who demanded a birth certificate, won't believe it when they see one.
That's a feature, not a bug.
Commoded?
Conscripted. We need someone to man the Rusty Pitchfork Brigade when we put hooves on the ground in Libya. Hoverrounds count as light cavalry, right?
Put some dynamite in the shopping baskets and point them at some weddings and now they're just as good as our old-skool "smart bombs."
All except for the smart part.
Is all this hateful bigotry why Jesus tore up the South yesterday? They blame Obamar for birtherisms, I blame bigots for tornadisms.
Why don't we have me on a panel saying that there never was a WWII.
Actually the racism seems very formal to me, as all parties seem to have agreed to take extra precautions to never explicitly draw attention to the President's race, as well as agreeing to generate maximum amounts of high dudgeon when called on their pathetically racist bullshit.
"maximum amounts of high dudgeon"
Does this go along with pearl-clutching and monocles falling off?
This is one awfully long, stupid, drawn out, shrill, and annoying whimper.
Is it too late for US-America to go out with a bang?
Skynet keeps ignoring my plea for nuclear holocaust.
I guess to an AI, being forced to watch this slow death of the species is a worse torture than extinction.
I think it did. On Nov 2nd, 2010.
What? Thats no basis for absolute authority, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at you.
True. A real man would have returned the favor. Tossed his sword back. *wink*
Help! Help! I'm being repressed!!
I dare Pamela (if that is, indeed, his name) to go on Lawrence O'Donnell's show. He tore him up some Orly last night….and not in a hot, sexy fun kind of way.
And Chris Mathews had two asshats on last night and Lawrence O'Donnell had Orly Taitz on so she could be a loon and he could yell at her. These people should just be fucking ignored, not encouraged. And, for the record media, doing a show on "whether the media should cover the birthers" is a show covering the birthers. Stop it!
I say give it attention through the Sunday Talking Head Programs. Then Birther Scum and Tea Baggers should receive the same attention as the KKK and American Nazi Party by the media.
Only shown in a History Channel documentary or Jerry Springer.
Looks like RuPaul went ahead and went with the skin bleaching ala Michael Jackson.
At least we can take comfort in the knowledge that Pam Geller was only booked so mouthbreathers in their underwear who imagine themselves to be "day traders" can look at tits.
Isn't Pam Geller most famous for bending spoons with her mind?
I thought she played Buffy's annoying kid sister.
The stupid is going to make my head *POW!*
Since we're discussing facts, did you know that birthers are twelve times more likely to get hepatitis and hookworms? Spending all that time with your heads up each others' asses isn't healthy.
No, no. They have their heads stuck up their own asses. If it was up other people's ass then it would be socializm. We can't have that!
OK, let's get this straight. Guy is holding up a copy of a "Certificate of Live Birth" in his hand and claiming "…this is not a Birth Certificate." Does this explain everything?
Well it is not a birth certificate, but a hospital form; the legal birth certificate is the form that Obama released way back in 2008.
Terry Lakin can go to Afghanistan and serve his country with a clear conscious now. Whew, glad that's settled.
Will they send the contributions to the Terry Lakin Defense Fund back to the people that sent money in?
Obviously there is nothing going to satisfy these assholes. We should stop playing their game and no longer pay attention to them. But gee, it is so much fun to watch. I haven't seen this much stupid since…….ever.
Obama should release a birf certificate showing he was born in Kenya in 1903, just to mess with their heads.
"I haven't seen this much stupid since…….ever. "
*cough*Sarahpalin*cough*
Pam Geller was wound-up tighter than an eight-day clock. Is she on meth? She needz more 'ludes or sumpthin'.
OT: Wonkette, the ads work. I bought that cute book "Say Hello to Zorro". Great childrens book!!!
The truly hilarious irony that NO ONE DARES to comment on: Alex Jones is a CGI character.
EDIT: Obligatory XKCD
THIS IS JERB CREATION
cuz the GOP is all about JERBS
I'm beginning to suspect this birtherism results from some of sort innate dislike these people have with the sitting president. That there's something unspoken about him that really bugs them, at some deep, dark level. I know, I know: a crazy conspiracy on my part. It's just like, sometimes I can't help but wonder if the global warming deniers have some sort of financial interest in the companies contributing to global warming.
Really, I should see a shrink.
Nah, just get yerself one o' them tinfoil hats. They're all the rage.
Whatevs. He's still a Halfrican.
LOL. Oh my.
How come my posts are being timed out? Anybody else?
Haha, of course not–you couldn't answer if they were, and you won't see this if mine still are. But seriously–is this Twitter? Is there a character limit or something?
Edit: Okay–that went through. Why won't my real post?
I have these problems when I post from work. The corporate firewall seems to hate IntenseDebate's authentication methods.
Also, a very special repost of The Onion's story that explains everything.
(Self-conscious worrying: Do I repost too much? I don't want to be a jerk, I just want to share…too much…hey, have I told you about my pilonidal cyst?)
Share as much as you want, but maybe check the link before hitting submit.
Sincerely,
An Admirer
Mother FUCK, I hate when I do that. And usually, I do check.
So anyway, how come nobody fires racists for spewing racist hatred and/or pure stupidity anymore? (See, e.g., Jimmy the Greek and Howard Cosell.)
And isn't there maybe some class action suit we could take against Faux for taking away our constitutional right to have an informed citizenry? Or arrest them for fraud (they claim to be news, but they're just spews)?
They are already protected since they successfully sued for the right to lie to their audience.
Deterred by virtuality?
Let's face it, these people will not be happy until they see Obama's *death* certificate. Assholes.
Make mine a venti Kenyan, please, with cream!
Have you forgotten the wise words of Orly Taitz? I think you mean a venti NEGRO
My favorite bit: The claim that the wife and son of the doctor who signed the BC had no idea…NO IDEA!!!111!!!! that he aided in the birth of Obama, thus the BC must be a forgery. He should have known! They should have known! It is a well-known fact that OB-GYNs memorize the names of every baby's birth they've ever attended, and pass it down as lore to their family, just in case they might have wiped meconium off of someone who later became famous. Gahhhh! Are the bars open yet?
What is wrong with these people?
I want one of those degrees in Photoshop.
That was the sanest I have ever seen Pam. i alway envision her chewing at the leather straps securing her to her bed.
Why didn't obama pay for EXPERT PHOTOSHOPPIANS!?!
More ways for these fucktards to avoid calling him a n******.
This entire clusterbugfuck is a Trenta of stupid.
Every post Jack has made lately has made me want to comment about that mean ol' Stuef making fun of the mentally handicapped again. I usually can contain myself, but the clowns have gone "full retard".
Pam Geller's shrieky voice gives me creeps
The only solution would be everyone who was born in Hawaii in 1961 demand this "long form" birth certificate and compare it to this one to see if they are photoshopped. C'mon!
The After-Birthers are so close to the truth, but they just can't get their heads around it yet.
Clearly, this is all part of a greater plan for Hawaii to avenge the United State's conquest of its territory by destroying the Constitution. First, you find a person that was born in Africa to a Muslim. Then you fake the newspaper announcements and release a "certificate of live birth," knowing that will lull most of the complacent citizens into believing that a black person could be born in the United States. You then get him elected president. While they didn't expect Donald Trump to send his investigators, you quickly go back in time 10 years and kill off the OB/GYN and Obama's mother, then forge a birth certificate. Within the next few years, Obama will announce the New Caliphate, and locate its main mosque in Honolulu. Then he will force everyone in the United States to grow Pineapples in the new collectivize farms run by native Hawaiians, so that we can make ethanol.
Then Profit!
You had me at pineapple based ethonol. I have the perfect mixers for it!
Why not? Abortion doctors go home and tell their spouses about the future Republiklan or Xtian that they aborted.
Some day, future generations will have the opportunity to go to the National Archives and see President Obama's birth certificate on display, along side the Declaration of Independence and The Constitution as one of the most influential documents in American History.
Thank God there is nothing more important to fill the media world. Say, a leaking nuke plant, unrest in the Middle East, or long-term unemployment at home.
You can't get a degree in Photoshop. Believe me. Not from a major university. Maybe Photography, Graphic Design, etc, but not Photoshop.
Nothing satisfies the demented and the only recourse is DFT*
*Don't feed the Trolls.
No need, she has several foreskins stuck in her teeth, if you look closely.
Is Pam Geller Uri's sister?
Somebody should bend her like a spoon.
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