• May 27, 2012

Republican Fantasyland: No Actual Medicare, Tax Cuts For Millionaires

by Ken Layne  12:05 am April 16, 2011

Duck you.What do Republicans in Congress dream about, after they get bored of Cialisbating to ROTC videos? Lowering taxes even more for the very richest people in America while doubling the cost of medical care for senior citizens. That’s what the budget passed tonight by the House GOP promises to do — and even though it will never get through the Senate, we now live in a country where the “socialist Kenyan” thinks this basic idea is very good. Cut the deficit! Everyone must sacrifice! Keep slashing taxes for the wealthiest people in human history. Why not? What are old people going to do, vote differently? Hahahahah.

The Tribune Washington Bureau reports:

It cuts taxes on the top income earners and businesses — from 35 percent to 25 percent — while closing unspecified loopholes and tax exemptions. “This budget keeps America exceptional,” Ryan said before the vote. “It preserves its promise to the next generation.”

Ryan’s budget blueprint would do away with Medicare’s direct payment for health care for seniors, replacing it with a voucher system in which seniors choose between private insurers. The Congressional Budget Office found that part of the plan, which would take effect in 2022, could nearly double out-of-pocket costs for seniors.

And all this means we have to continue hearing the alleged liberals in Washington talk about “the deficit” as if it’s some pressing issue that can only be solved by stomping the 90% of people in this country who will be deeply hurt by the end of senior health care in this country. Are we exaggerating? Not at all. Double the price of “government health care” for old people and all but the wealthiest people are going to suffer. Can you handle a doubling of your health costs, today? Try it when you’re 70.

Oh yeah and the entire phony “deficit crisis” or budget shortfall or whatever you want to call it could be solved in five minutes by simply raising taxes on the rich or making the biggest corporations pay at least a little bit of tax or slashing the defense budget today. Gah.

{ 319 comments }

user-of-owls April 16, 2011 at 12:10 am

Ha ha, "try it when you're 70." Like anyone without a monocle lives that long. Such a kidder you are, Ken.

Fukui_sanYesOta April 16, 2011 at 12:25 am

Haha, it's funny because poor children will be lucky to make pubescence in a Republican utopia.

Jukesgrrl April 17, 2011 at 5:14 pm

That's their definition of exceptionalism: Except for the poor this would be a great country, so let's get rid of them.

Barbara_i April 16, 2011 at 8:21 am

I can't do a cockney voice very well, "please sir, could I have more?" (insulin, blood pressure medicine…..)

user-of-owls April 16, 2011 at 12:00 pm

Sounded fine to me.

weejee April 16, 2011 at 12:57 pm

user-of-owls the downfisters had you in the hole. Can't let that stand, but could only bring ya back to zero. Poopie poops, hope they catch terminal carpal downclicker syndrome and will no longer be able to fap. These types would never be able to get sex catered unless they paid for it.

user-of-owls April 16, 2011 at 5:16 pm

Ah, not to worry friend. Our p-holes are always temporary, while the down-fistulae* are permanent a-holes.

*Oh my, I had no idea that fistula is an actual word. Not just that, but it is an exceedingly appropriate word as used. Hooray! New pet term for me!
http://classics.mit.edu/Hippocrates/fistulae.1.1….

PuckStopsHere April 16, 2011 at 12:12 am

Hey, lay off will you? Let's keep the "job creators" able to create the jobs, ok? They've been doing such a great job of it the last ten years. Oh, wait. I was thinking of China. My bad.

Serolf_Divad April 16, 2011 at 9:26 am

Don't you mean Communist China?

OneDollarJuana April 16, 2011 at 8:42 pm

Don't you mean Communist Red China?

chicken_thief April 16, 2011 at 2:12 pm

Fuckin' aye! EVER BEEN HARRED BY A POAR?! Ah rest mah case….

user-of-owls April 16, 2011 at 12:12 am

Ryan = Cantanker Sore

facehead April 16, 2011 at 12:14 am

You know who else was a COMPLETE FUCKING DOOSHBAG PILE OF MUTHERFUCKING SHITFUCK CUNTSLOP GRAAAAAAAAAAA—————AAAAAAAAAAAFJLKJDLKJSLFKJSDFLKSDJFLSD:KFJFDKLJDSFL:KJDSFLKSDJFSDLKFJDSFLKDJF FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKK?!!?!?!???????????

DownFist Troll April 16, 2011 at 12:28 am

Ivan the Terrible?

Radio_Level_7 April 16, 2011 at 12:29 am

The downfister?

smokefilledfetus April 16, 2011 at 12:32 am

Shitler?

Fukui_sanYesOta April 16, 2011 at 12:35 am

Michael Bay?

facehead April 16, 2011 at 12:37 am

Closest answer so far . . .

Negropolis April 16, 2011 at 2:36 am

Meghan Fox? she's as much a female douchebag as you'll ever find.

horsedreamer_1 April 18, 2011 at 8:56 am

Brian Austin Green, Mr Megan Fox, is quite possibly the luckiest has-been on the face of the Earth.

Schmannnity April 16, 2011 at 12:36 am

Machiavelli? George Blodgette over on Elm?

trampndirtdown April 16, 2011 at 12:44 am

Lou Sarah?

nounverb911 April 16, 2011 at 12:50 am

Dagny Taggert?

102415 April 16, 2011 at 1:36 am

Ayn Rand.

Swampgas_Man April 16, 2011 at 9:01 am

The idiots who made the Atlas Shrugged movie?

102415 April 16, 2011 at 1:22 pm

Yeah, them too. Wait, was it a SAG contract? Commies made that movie. Boycott!

Radio_Level_7 April 17, 2011 at 12:13 am

Weekend thread, day late laugh.

poncho_pilot April 17, 2011 at 4:43 am

the director probably brought the same quality to Atlas Shrugged that he brought to One Tree Hill.

yes. i watched One Tree Hill. don't judge me.

TsunamiAli April 17, 2011 at 4:47 am

crap, sorry poncho – i downfisted you by mistake cause the wonkett loads very strangely and couldn't see the fists. I upfist you in my heart!

imissopus April 16, 2011 at 1:54 am

That jerk who cut me off on La Brea this afternoon?

facehead April 16, 2011 at 3:05 am

That was YOU?

CalamityJames April 16, 2011 at 2:38 am

Golden-voiced Homeless Guy?

SayItWithWookies April 16, 2011 at 2:39 am

Charlie Sheen and Glenn Beck in a gay porno film called Atlas Spooned?

HistoriCat April 16, 2011 at 9:26 am

Oh dear God no … the horror, the horror.

poncho_pilot April 16, 2011 at 2:51 am

ex-Godfather's Pizza CEO Herman Cain?

Warpde April 16, 2011 at 3:01 am

Oh Oh Oh, I know.
My first wife.

orygoon April 16, 2011 at 10:43 am

She should meet my first husband.

unclejeems April 16, 2011 at 3:29 am

Vlad the Impaler?
Richard Milhous Nixon?
Emperor Nicolas I?

Guppy06 April 17, 2011 at 5:20 pm

Nixon was the one who signed Title X into law to begin with, the communist.

weejee April 16, 2011 at 8:32 am

Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins, cause they still go to bed with caucus with these douchebags.

Doktor Zoom April 16, 2011 at 9:42 am

Bergholt Stuttley "Bloody Stupid" Johnson?

comrad_darkness April 16, 2011 at 1:18 pm

Evil architects for the win.

Doktor Zoom April 17, 2011 at 12:57 am

Now, now…"Bloody Stupid" Johnson wasn't actually evil, he just had a knack for design that didn't correspond to the laws of mathematics, physics, or reality. Not evil. Just bloody stupid.

Also, as so often happens to me, I didn't know until long after encountering Pratchett that Johnson's name was a play on a real landscape architect, Lancelot 'Capability' Brown.

Limeylizzie April 16, 2011 at 10:20 am

Me, in the late 80s?

OneDollarJuana April 16, 2011 at 8:43 pm

Limey, after my wife I luv u best.

Limeylizzie April 18, 2011 at 7:16 am

Does she know?

DahBoner April 16, 2011 at 3:46 pm

Hello, my name is nelson Emmanuel I am an FBI foreign agent we discover your funds the sum of $8.5m, all I need from you now is to provide me your home address and telephone number and also let me know how you need your funds, is it check or cash?

horsedreamer_1 April 16, 2011 at 8:42 pm

Jim Eisenreich?

lulzmonger April 17, 2011 at 1:47 pm

Animatronic Nixon?

OkieDokieDog April 16, 2011 at 12:15 am

Can they also use those vouchers at McDonald's if they decide they'd rather eat instead of buying their meds?

DownFist Troll April 16, 2011 at 12:55 am

Yes, they call that one the Teabagger-option.

OneDollarJuana April 16, 2011 at 8:44 pm

Hey, in the South are they the SweetTeaBag Party?

horsedreamer_1 April 16, 2011 at 8:43 pm

Supposedly, Mc Donald's accepts QUEST cards (electronic food-stamps) in my state, by state request, for the homeless recipients who lack fridges & such.

OneDollarJuana April 16, 2011 at 8:46 pm

It's offensive that one can use food stamps to buy clearly unhealthy food, but unfortunately, calorie-dense food such as Mickey D's is usually the cheapest, so the a cost-benefit analysis for the poors works out in favor of ADM.

Jukesgrrl April 17, 2011 at 5:21 pm

Please note that it's MorganStanley that handles the Quest program, getting a cut of the action every time those cards are swiped. They don't care what the poors eat because they don't know any.

smokefilledfetus April 16, 2011 at 12:15 am

It preserves its promise to the next generation and puts the lotion on its skin.

Angry_Marmot April 16, 2011 at 1:20 am

Beat me to it.

guangho April 16, 2011 at 9:02 am

My fellow Americans, although being chained inside a well by a serial killer is certainly less than ideal, we could all make sacrifices to ensure that we won't get the hose again, or, if we do, that it won't hurt quite as much. Some of you have suggested climbing out of the hole and escaping. To that I say…impractical. Now, some others have claimed that I am unfit to lead because of my excess melanin. To you I say…can we be friends? Also, I have negotiated a deal with Buffalo Ryan to ensure that the hose and the lotion will both be made in America…unless they're not.

poncho_pilot April 17, 2011 at 4:47 am

made in America, by Americans, from Americans. he also promises to make preserves out of the next generation.

smokefilledfetus April 17, 2011 at 5:55 am

Promise Peasant Preserves™– Proletariat Jelly for the Industrialist's Belly!

…Tired of working your employees to death and not being wholly compensated? With Promise Peasant Preserves™, you can benefit from the slow physical demise of your workers by ingesting their flesh postmortem! Also too! You've dominated its life and crushed its dreams, now you can eat it and ensure nothing is left! Nothing goes to waste with Promise Peasant Preserves™ and Promise Peasant Preserves With Extra Heartmeat™. Spread on a cracker or some toast, Promise Peasant Preserves™ is the tasty way to truly enjoy the "human being" things you have conquered with your selfish hatred. Order your servant to find them in your grocer's refrigerated section today!

crybabyboehner April 16, 2011 at 6:01 pm

yet the next generation gets the hose anyway … but at least they'll be "exceptional!"

memzilla April 16, 2011 at 12:16 am

The Republicans' ideal time and place would be Britain 1845: no unions, child labor, debtor's prisons, health care for only the rich, an impermeable class system, no worker safety measures, roaring industrial pollution, a state-controlled religion, pay-for-play government (land grants! colonies! titles!), and wars on three continents.

Schmannnity April 16, 2011 at 12:43 am

Please sir, may I have another?

smokefilledfetus April 16, 2011 at 1:01 am

The beautiful carcass-crushing Gilded Age. Snap go the expendable bones..

DarwinianDemon April 16, 2011 at 2:45 am

Also: The Death Penalty!

zhubajie April 16, 2011 at 3:12 am

Yes, public hangings to entertain the swinish masses!

unclejeems April 16, 2011 at 3:32 am

Us hoi polloi enjoys that kinder inter tainmunt. Why, puts it on TV, says Ah. Hell, it'd beat Letterman from here tuh yonder. We'd just laaaaaaaaugh!

poncho_pilot April 16, 2011 at 3:36 am

Ow, My Neck!

zhubajie April 16, 2011 at 11:13 pm

The Cincinnati Enquirer's editors used to call for it at least once ayear. They'd lost their previous “entertainment district” when thehookers had been chased off Vine St.!

Jukesgrrl April 17, 2011 at 5:31 pm

We'd just laugh unless it starred the cast of Twilight. Having THEM suffer might send a message to the viewers. "Oh, noes!!1! The muscley guy without the shirt is being put to death for stealing food for his babbie. The guy with the soulful eyes is getting whipped on a merchant ship. And the girl who never smiles is still not smiling, as she peels potatoes in a scullery kitchen. We hate this program!11! Especially the advertisement from the Democratic Party that says this is what's going to happen to us."

carlgt1 April 16, 2011 at 9:29 am

I say their dream period is US 1857 after the Dred Scot decision when typically, the Supreme Court officially ruled black people were property with no human or political rights. They've been pining for this antebellum pipe-dream ever since 1865.

tessiee April 17, 2011 at 1:28 am

"the Supreme Court officially ruled black people were property with no human or political rights"

Nice, but it doesn't go far enough. Should extend to the bottom 98% income bracket.

Dudleydidwrong April 16, 2011 at 9:54 am

The only good news about this return to 1845 is that we might see a renaissance of Sweeney Todd–not the opera, not the (bad) film, but the real Sweeney, slicing a few throats of these wealthy bastards. I mean, they have to shave some time, don't they? Bring on the meat pies.

DemmeFatale April 16, 2011 at 10:45 am

Have you checked out the English series starring Ray Winstone as Sweeney?
*shudder*

OzoneTom April 16, 2011 at 4:59 pm

Also, if early enough in 1845, Texas would not be annexed or a state yet.

sezme April 16, 2011 at 1:09 pm

You're close, but you're likely influenced by the publication date of A Christmas Carol. An even more ideal time for them would be Britain 1776: No rumblings of dissent or pesky authors with a social conscience, a king as mad as you like, no scary French Revolution across the channel, A nice winnable foreign war…

OneDollarJuana April 16, 2011 at 3:56 pm

You know what else happened in 1776?

Pres[ $ rm -r * ] April 16, 2011 at 4:24 pm

Some Teabaggers wearing Colonial re-enactor gear took over?

OneDollarJuana April 16, 2011 at 8:48 pm

They took over FTW! At least until the rich came to their senses and took it all back, time and again.

Pish tosh. Looks like we have to have another revolution, take it back from the rich so they can take it back yet again. It's all so tiring. Where's my soma?

poncho_pilot April 17, 2011 at 4:49 am

George Washington ended slavery?

imissopus April 16, 2011 at 1:20 pm

The streets literally knee-deep in horseshit…

Rarian Rakista April 16, 2011 at 4:08 pm

1835 actually had many charitable health care institutions, including the first serious undertaking in caring for the mentally ill in Britain. The UKs trend toward universal health care was evident even back then, on the other hand in the United States at the same time was far worse with all you describe plus the added benefit of slavery.

Nothingisamiss April 16, 2011 at 12:16 am

Everyone knows that the poor, the sick, and the elderly are responsible for our national decline. What else could be the explanation?

comptoneffect April 16, 2011 at 7:36 am

I'm just glad that congress stepped up to the plate to protect wall street from all the dirty poor folks who tried to ruin the economy back in '08. It's only fair to take away Medicare and Social Security.

Rarian Rakista April 16, 2011 at 4:09 pm

The King of Saudi Arabia just spent upwards of 10 million dollars on his health problems, soon, we will be seeing life extension being given to the super rich so that they will forestall paying a death tax for 100's or 1000's of years.

horsedreamer_1 April 16, 2011 at 8:46 pm

Cryonics me a river, Raki.

poncho_pilot April 17, 2011 at 4:54 am

"The year is approximately 12,090 AD. Some time in 1999, a nuclear war occurred. The Nobility were vampires that planned for a possible nuclear war and sequestered all that was needed to rebuild civilization in their shelters."

Doktor Zoom April 17, 2011 at 1:33 pm

In the grimdark grimdark of the grimdark, there is only grimdark.

Rarian Rakista April 17, 2011 at 1:37 pm

I like it!

OneDollarJuana April 16, 2011 at 8:54 pm

You know, this dog-piling on the less fortunate, the pitting of the bulk of society on defenseless minorities, is starting to remind me of a country in the recent past, say in the last 70 years, who started an ambitious plan to change their society by eliminating certain undesirable groups, taking over the media, the military, and co-opting the politicians all to benefit a tiny group at the top. Hmmm. Wonder how it will work out this time?

comptoneffect April 16, 2011 at 9:23 pm

At first glance there's no reason to think it wouldn't end the same way. The country in question might get pushy with its neighbors and invade several of them until another group of countries ally themselves together to stop the nonsense. Of course, this time, the pushy country has the nuclear weapons that some in that country from 70 years ago so desperately wanted–so the ending might be very different.

[redacted]hse April 16, 2011 at 11:21 am

Teachers!

DahBoner April 16, 2011 at 11:36 am

True, it is a common misperception that our current problems were caused by rich, greedy bankers.

#AMERICAN EXCEPTUALISM IN GOP TALKIN' POINTS

lulzmonger April 16, 2011 at 10:11 pm

This comment was deleted due to a restraining order from the Legal Department of Goldman Sachs.

undeterredbyreality April 16, 2011 at 12:17 am

Hey, what do I care? I'm just old enough to make the cut for regular Medicare. Go Ryan! Go Repubicans! Suck it, Junior.

JustPixelz April 16, 2011 at 9:31 am

If their Medicare plan is as great as they say — saves money, more choice for seniors (oh, now they're pro-choice!), saves the America, enables tax cuts — if it does all that, why don't they want it for all seniors starting TODAY? Grow a pair Repubicans! Stand up and say no one in Medicare gets a free pass … and no one gets out alive.

horsedreamer_1 April 16, 2011 at 8:48 pm

The Courage… to Institute One-Party Rule.

Republicans in U.S. America are the new Partido de la Revolucion Institucional 1929 (though, with decidedly contemporary Partido Accion Nacional social policy). Does this make Barack Obama into Porfirio Diaz?

Fukui_sanYesOta April 16, 2011 at 12:23 am

The mask really is off now. Insane candidates spewing internet memes copied from the most mouthbreathing of the population combined with the obvious desire to fuck everyone who isn't a millionaire. There's not even any pretense any more.

“This budget keeps America exceptional,”

It certainly does, Congressman Ryan, it most certainly does.

Beowoof April 16, 2011 at 12:06 pm

Exceptionally stupid when compared to the rest of the industrialized west.

OneDollarJuana April 16, 2011 at 8:57 pm

Exceptionally mean. Exceptionally cruel. Exceptionally short-sighted. Exceptionally perfect if the end of the U.S. as we know it is the near-term goal.

chicken_thief April 16, 2011 at 2:15 pm

Very true – the only industrialized nation in the world's Top 20 without universal healthcare. USA!!! USA!!!

loulouroo April 17, 2011 at 11:09 pm

As in, "short bus" exceptional?

Steverino247 April 16, 2011 at 12:26 am

Try it when you're 70? How about trying it when you're a disabled veteran, age 30 or under, and unable to work because you were wounded in action fighting in Iraq, the very war that made some of these bastards the wealth they now enjoy.

If the Dem's don't scream fucking bloody murder about this, then a new political party needs to be formed immediately because they're no longer worth supporting in any way.

AJW@[redacted] April 16, 2011 at 1:23 am

Rotten fucks.

I've been uninsurable in the open market for over 30 years due to pre-existing conditions; the only way I could get insurance was to enter civil service. When they wore me out and discarded me, I had to sue to keep my benefits active. After 2 years they put me on Medicare which already costs me more than Blue Cross did, I can't wait to see what ryan's plan will do for to me.

Rarian Rakista April 16, 2011 at 4:11 pm

My friend just spend 10 years becoming a Canadian citizen, maybe more and more people will be leaving the US, leaving the rich and the rabble behind.

Limeylizzie April 16, 2011 at 10:23 am

You made me cry, I think we need to be that angry, I think we need to go out into the streets and protest lke the Teabaggers did, it worked to get LBJ on board for civil rights, what is more of a civil rght than your health?

hellbabe April 16, 2011 at 1:11 pm

this country makes me cry….i want to stop watching and listening to this train wreck, but it's the fascination of abomination

greenloner April 16, 2011 at 2:53 pm

The media have ignored what outrages me most: how veterans have been mistreated by these shits. They foment wars, send young people off to die, lying to them all the while, and when they come home (if it's not in a coffin), find ways of denying them health care.

Jukesgrrl April 17, 2011 at 5:36 pm

Not to mention mental health care, which they need and their spouses need, too, after they return from their umpteenth tour of duty.

Doktor Zoom April 17, 2011 at 7:58 pm

For what it's worth, NPR's Daniel Zwerdling has done some excellent reporting on exactly these issues. And it's not only solid journalism; it has also raised enough outrage that the Pentagon and VA have reformed their treatment of both PTSD and traumatic brain injuries. Needless to say, there's always more dirt to be found, but at least some news organizations out there are shining a light where it's needed.

imissopus April 17, 2011 at 9:47 pm

Exactly why we need to defund NPR! Damn hippies always makin' Amurca look bad by reporting facts.

trampndirtdown April 16, 2011 at 12:29 am

Congressman P90X needs to go do some more reps. Then he needs to go tell Nancy about his plans. Nancy Smash!

Negropolis April 16, 2011 at 2:41 am

I guess it's more kosher he do more reps than more pages.

GuanoFaucet April 16, 2011 at 12:30 am

Do they make denture-friendly hobo beans?

sezme April 16, 2011 at 1:13 pm

Tip: You have to cook them.

DownFist Troll April 16, 2011 at 12:30 am

"Cialisbating" is thirty-seven kinds of awesome. i salute you ken

Beetagger April 16, 2011 at 8:15 am

Does one have to be in a bathtub in the backyard to Cialisbate properly?

DahBoner April 16, 2011 at 11:40 am

No, the opera is OK, too if you are The Blacks.

iburl April 16, 2011 at 12:36 am

This is my most favorite type of indignation. Righteous!

Don't worry, as Obama has already started his campaigning in earnest. Now his thoughtful and gentle words will soothe our troubled minds and make it all better. Ahhhh. Remember those campaign days of yesteryears, remember the mellifluous MLK-cadenced speeches, and how they filled us with hope and inspired us to sign up for some websites and spend some money, and vote, and talk to our friends about Obama, and overwhelm and overfill the caucus rooms of places like Texas? I'm sure that when Mr. Obama repeats some of those same promises ("I will end the wars", "I will picket with unions", "I will close Gitmo") or makes new ones ("I will not extend the Bush tax cuts again!") that we will all support him again with ever more increased vigor. After all, the plan is to raise 1$ Billion dollars, so we better start scrimping! Clip those coupons!

undeterredbyreality April 16, 2011 at 1:12 am

I recognize and respect your sarcasm, iburl, but in view of the alternative, or lack thereof, imma gonna do exactly that. And hope ("he said 'hope'–hahaha") that the real Obama shows up this time. That is, the Obama I hope for.

iburl April 16, 2011 at 2:06 am

And I recognize and respect your being undeterred by reality.

Meanwhile, America under Hopey is going to spend over $700 Billion on innumerable wars next year, more than any Bush ever has. http://is.gd/gbOsto

I didn't donate nearly that much in '07, so I won't be missed, besides I'll need the money for Obama's bankster friends at some point.

CZL April 16, 2011 at 2:21 am

President Donald Trump. Obama isn't even the lesser of two evils. His maladjusted weeniness pales in comparison to a Republican White House in 2013. Don't let us lose by letting them win.

greenloner April 16, 2011 at 3:07 pm

I've just about reached the point of accosting people on the street to say if you ever voted Republican, REPENT NOW! But then, they don't listen to reason, do they?

Negropolis April 16, 2011 at 2:43 am

It's so frustrating, because both of you have rather valid and legitimate opinions.

Monsieur_Grumpe April 16, 2011 at 4:52 am

You would think it would be fun being a passenger in a clown car but then you notice there are no seatbelts.

ThundercatHo April 16, 2011 at 2:49 pm

Not so fucking much this time. At least Hil had some balls.

LetUsBray April 16, 2011 at 3:27 pm

Yeah, right. You're projecting a fantasy onto her the same way a lot of us, myself included I fear, have done with Obama. Whose spouse freaking INVENTED triangulation? What did she do in the senate that left any sort of impression she'd be even a tiny bit less anxious to make nice with the rethugs?

ThundercatHo April 16, 2011 at 4:53 pm

Well, you're probably right. It's just that I'm so bitterly disappointed in Obama and the Dem's general spinelessness that it's easy to fantasize about an alternative reality. B. Boxer maybe?

DemmeFatale April 16, 2011 at 5:07 pm

There's a big difference between making nice with the Repubs, and rolling over and kissing a lot of ass in the name of non-existent bipartisanship.

Nonetheless, I hope there is a winning strategy here.

OneDollarJuana April 16, 2011 at 9:05 pm

The only winning strategy is to elect a better legislature. No current candidate for the Presidency is up to the task , and that includes Obama. The only thing that will truly save us is to elect the right legislature that can stand up to the TB's and send good laws to the President to sign. Obama-Milktoast will sign good legislation if it gets to his desk, but you can forget about him fighting for us.

Badonkadonkette April 16, 2011 at 12:38 am

So the Republican alternative to passing off our debt to our children and grandchildren is passing off our debt to our parents and grandparents? I guess that shouldn't be surprising, considering most Republicans think being self-reliant is the same thing as spending mommy and daddy's money.

zhubajie April 16, 2011 at 3:16 am

I expect they have wet dreams about reneging on the national debt, and ending up like Argentina a few years ago. But they won't be the 70 year olds whoring themselves, but the customers! In their dreams, of course. In reality, most T-tards and supporters of the Oligarchs will be in the gutter, fighting for the garbage with the rest of us!

horsedreamer_1 April 16, 2011 at 8:51 pm

If only the U.S. had the sense to elect a Kirchner — or Fernandez de Kirchner, in the case of the successor — to the Presidency. But Bernie Sanders is never getting past Vt Senate, positionally.

zhubajie April 16, 2011 at 11:09 pm

At the time of the Argentine crisis, the pres. of Uruguay remarkedthat there was nothing wrong with Argentina, if the politicians wouldjust quite stealing everything!Before you know it, Wisconsin, etc., will be isssuing patacas, I suppose.

WinterOuthouse April 16, 2011 at 12:40 am

Republican death panel. They want to pull the plug on Grandma, Uncle Frankie, Aunt Susan, Mom, Dad, baby Gabriel, sissy, and the hole fuckin' family. At this rate we are all going to be living in the in the streets begging for a crust from our welathy overlords.

mavenmaven April 16, 2011 at 10:41 am

We'd be just like Republican candidates!

Jukesgrrl April 17, 2011 at 5:41 pm

I won't be begging. I'll be one of the people they death-paneled.

Negropolis April 17, 2011 at 9:53 pm

Hide you grandmas, your uncles, your aunites, your daddies…cause they killin' everybody, ya'll.

WinterOuthouse April 16, 2011 at 12:44 am

Assholes one, Assholes all, Let's all do our asshole call. (make moaning and begging sounds)

Radio_Level_7 April 16, 2011 at 12:45 am

Ken, did you mean and or and/or instead of or in the last paragraph?
Either way, you have captured the essence of the insane beast we face.
Paul Ryan and the Republicans are fucking assholes. And the Dems are hardly better if they can't raise taxes 3% on the job creators and not stand up to the military industrial propaganda poignancy bogie man.
Oh yeah, and do it for the fetuses.

Ken Layne April 16, 2011 at 5:31 pm

I met "or," as any of those things *individually* would remedy the whole bullshit "deficit crisis."

When any of those things were a reality — and they're not anymore — saying "and" would imply a "political reality" because each of the three would have to give up a few gazillion dollars. But the whole idea is just make believe now. The defense budget is bigger than it was under Reagan, in both real dollars and Adjusted For Inflation dollars. Meanwhile, the federal tax rate on the rich is much lower than it was under Reagan, while regressive taxes like the sales tax are higher in the most populous states.

Radio_Level_7 April 17, 2011 at 12:59 am

I guess even fucking St. Ronnie was to the left of Bammer. You're correct, the whole political discourse has moved so far right, even discussing one of those topics is unthinkable.
Bush/Obama III doesn't sound so strange now.
The way I sadly think about it now is such: The post-9/11 neocon overreaction cost us $600 billion per annum when you throw in the Fatherland Security boondoggle. Never to be discussed, Much less touched. Do you feel safer?
Remember your graph about guns and traffic fatalities dwarfing the twin tower demolition? Do it for the troops or the slave warrior class. Both Föx and the MSM have such a stranglehold on this discussion. Peace dividend? Yeah right.
Don't even get me started on the job creators, small businesses and entrepreneurs…
Or healthcare and the "non-profit" middlemen insurance co's…
This is one bleak outpost we are in. But you're cool man, keep up the good work,

GuanoFaucet April 16, 2011 at 12:53 am

Cutting funding to Planned Parenthood and NPR will offset those tax cuts to the wealthy.

unclejeems April 16, 2011 at 3:36 am

Damn skippy.

Sparky_McGruff April 16, 2011 at 10:12 am

I think this might represent the apparent republican view of the federal budget

horsedreamer_1 April 16, 2011 at 8:55 pm

While I'm sure it was included among aid to coloreds & illegal immigrants, another piece should have been devoted to foreign aid explicitly. I mean, FA is at least 2 trillion a year (not including the cost of Barack's passage to India).

DemmeFatale April 16, 2011 at 10:51 am

Talk about half a French fry!

chicken_thief April 16, 2011 at 2:17 pm

With that double whammy I feel another tax cut for the rich coming on…

pinkocommi April 16, 2011 at 12:55 am

Republican Party Platform #1: It is in our interest for old and poor people to die.

Negropolis April 16, 2011 at 2:46 am

Remember when Alan Grayson said much the same, and the beltway went bat-shit insane because he wasn't being "civil"? Yeah, that really sucked.

unclejeems April 16, 2011 at 3:38 am

Republican platform, take two:

1. We got ours.
2. Fuck you.
3. Fuck you.
4. Fuck you.

And so forth.

fuflans April 16, 2011 at 12:58 am

the economist recently described the nigerian electorial apparatus as 'a malevolent rotary club'.

this works for republicans too.

zhubajie April 16, 2011 at 3:17 am

That describes the US quite well too.

V572..whatever April 16, 2011 at 7:11 am

Aren't all Rotary Clubs malevolent?

comrad_darkness April 16, 2011 at 1:25 pm

You have something against Mazda RX-7 clubs??

bumfug April 16, 2011 at 1:00 am

How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat, which is full of drug-resistant bacteria and hormones because there isn't an FDA or an EPA.

AJW@[redacted] April 16, 2011 at 1:03 am

“It preserves its promise to the next generation of millionaires and billionaires.”
//fixed

Doktor Zoom April 16, 2011 at 9:50 am

These are the days of miracle and wonder.

Native_of_SL_UT April 16, 2011 at 1:05 am

I heard one Republican bitch on TV call the voucher system "more options for seniors."
We should steal every one of those Republican bastards cars and call it "more options on how they get to work."

ChurchofRealism April 16, 2011 at 10:54 am

One option being to just die because you can no longer afford care. Which I suppose IS an option…..

Sassomatic April 16, 2011 at 1:06 am

'Bout time all those freeloading oldsters, who have never contributed anything to this country, get a taste of financial responsibility. If they'd invested their money in property and 401ks . . . oh, wait.

bagofmice April 16, 2011 at 10:04 pm

I'll just be the 30-something buying you dinner in New York….

nounverb911 April 16, 2011 at 1:07 am

Sorry, it's way past my snarks bedtime.

fartknocker April 16, 2011 at 1:19 am

Preface this post from your children.

I can't wait for the next poll which ask Americans:

1) Do you want Medicare but have that protection removed because your age is between 45 and 54, or
2) Would you like watching a large, muscular woman who bench presses 400 pounds screw a Republican Representative in the anus with an 11 inch dildo on prime time TeeVee without any lubrication while sweetly stating "Isn't Nice that GE paid no Taxes?"

I will most likely vote for Number 1, but Number 2 would be great just to hear their rectums tear.

Yeah downfister, I wrote that.

Swampgas_Man April 16, 2011 at 9:09 am

Can I have that large muscular woman visit me instead? I have lube and it's been lonely out here.

GhostBuggy April 16, 2011 at 12:37 pm

Ha ha, you're assuming that's not every Republican Rep's dream. The only part that would upset them is that it's a woman.

ThundercatHo April 16, 2011 at 2:52 pm

1) Of course not
2) Yes! All of them. Do it for the troops.

bagofmice April 16, 2011 at 10:10 pm

Does she scream "Take it like you got it in a Minnesota Bathroom"? Because that has some alliterative power. #JustSayin

tessiee April 17, 2011 at 1:44 am

I think Bob just soiled his dainties.

Weenus299 April 16, 2011 at 1:32 am

Don't fuggin mess with Unca Scrooge. Of all the scheister billionaires, he's the one I'd want as president.

BaldarTFlagass April 16, 2011 at 11:34 am

Especially if he appointed Gladstone Gander as his Secretary of the Treasury. That lucky motherfucker would just stone cold find enough money, between the seat cushions and shit, to pay off the national debt.

SayItWithWookies April 16, 2011 at 2:20 am

Ryan claims this idiotic approach to math — that somehow only one side of the balance sheet matters, so cuts in taxes don't count against projected revenue for some reason. This is known as fiscal responsibility. Its subsequent error must be paid for by the sick and the weak. That's right sick and weak — get out of the limousine, the free ride is over, and Donald Trump's tax cuts won't pay for themselves.

Radio_Level_7 April 16, 2011 at 2:57 am

ergo: Trump/Ryan '12

unclejeems April 16, 2011 at 3:40 am

Trump / Troll '12.
Ryan for Secretary of HHS.

V572..whatever April 16, 2011 at 7:13 am

Rep Ryan is "courageous." They actually say that. But then they say tax cuts create revenue, and $15K is enough to buy health insurance when you're 75. So it's not as if any of these things are intended to be factual statements.

sezme April 16, 2011 at 1:21 pm

Remember back in the 80s when Reaganomics and "The trickle-down theory" were widely scoffed at because they were transparently fucked up? Good thing nobody ever actually implemented those theories or we'd really be in trouble now.

Wait, what?

chicken_thief April 16, 2011 at 2:21 pm

My favorite part of his budget is how he makes it all work with the projected future unemployment rate of 2.8%. Just a couple more tax cuts for the rich and they'll start hiring like muthafuckers!!!

horsedreamer_1 April 16, 2011 at 8:58 pm

Even funnier since 5% unemployment is considered the floor for unemployment. Where is that 2.2% of jobless going to find jobs?

SudsMcKenzie April 16, 2011 at 2:37 am

Its the P90X of budget cuts, feeeel the buurn.

Beowoof April 16, 2011 at 12:16 pm

Is my ass supposed to burn that way duing sex?

LetUsBray April 16, 2011 at 7:56 pm

Depends; some of us are hoping for a visit from that large, muscular woman with the strap-on.

DarwinianDemon April 16, 2011 at 2:39 am

Thankfully, the teabagger olds are grandfathered into medicare so they will not have to face voting for a socialist negro to save their selfish asses.

memzilla April 16, 2011 at 8:39 am

I also want someone to point out that the Rethuglicans' setting the Medicare cutoff age at 55 is a shamelessly transparent ploy to pander to the oldz who tend to vote Rethuglican.

Beowoof April 16, 2011 at 12:17 pm

I am in that group and I vote, but I will never vote republican again as the plan is to screw my kids and spouse. Pisses me off more than if they just came after me.

hellbabe April 16, 2011 at 1:20 pm

first, they're going to screw your kids and spouse, and then they're going to screw you. that's how this game plays out….they want to try and divide the olds and the not olds, then screw them both…I wish weiner's name wasn't weiner and kucinich didn't look like an alien…..the best thing is to vote for the craziest tailbagger and gittit the fuck over

DahBoner April 16, 2011 at 3:29 pm

Blue rhinestone glass.
All I see.
You talking double.
Like the time you set fire to me.
'Cause I'm in trouble.
Here's my advice .
I don't think twice for the price of a cheap time whore .

Don't comeback anytime, I've already had your kind.
This is you pay back, money grabber.

Don't come back anytime, you've already robbed me blind.
this is your pay back, money grabber.

horsedreamer_1 April 16, 2011 at 8:59 pm

Exactly. Same reason Scooter exempted the cops, firefighters, & state troopers from his collective bargaining tear-down.

Dudleydidwrong April 16, 2011 at 10:06 am

There is some sense among us oldsters out there (excuse me while I wipe the cat food off of my face–breakfast of tender vittles; same for dinner) of what is called the Generational Compact–shared responsibility across the generational boundaries. We seniors with a sense of this have to work on the others to get serious about their kids and grandkids and the others of their generations. I'm doin' my best but these damn fleas are getting the best of me.

AJW@[redacted] April 16, 2011 at 10:44 am

Elitist! It's generic kat fud kibble, here.

Dudleydidwrong April 16, 2011 at 2:46 pm

When the SS (that's Social Security, not Schutzstaffel, although the differences may be blurring) check comes in we go to the Dollar Store and stock up on some better cat food which usually lasts a week. This month my wife and I have been taking turns eating so the tender vittles has lasted longer. Someone else mentioned sauteeing the kitty food with onions; when the wild onions come up in the yard I'll try it.

Beowoof April 16, 2011 at 12:19 pm

Sheba cat food sauteed with onions is awesome.

comrad_darkness April 16, 2011 at 1:02 pm

Anything sauteed with onions is awesome.

yyyaz April 16, 2011 at 5:01 pm

There aren't enough onions in Vidalia to make a 'puglican liver palatable.

bflrtsplk April 16, 2011 at 6:02 pm

I prefer mine – Friskies brand – fried in whatever butter I can pilfer from the nearest restaurant dumpster.

poncho_pilot April 17, 2011 at 5:09 am

my cats like to eat grass when they venture outside. might be a good source of fiber.

donner_froh April 16, 2011 at 3:36 am

Make the wealthy even richer by cutting their taxes; kill off the poor by destroying their already precarious ability to pay for basic health care.

The GOP doesn't even try to cover up their class warfare.

BarackMyWorld April 16, 2011 at 4:06 am

Let me see if I got this straight…Republicans ran against Medicare cuts in 2010 so they could cut Medicare in 2011.

Or am I putting too much faith in people to be able to remember from one year to the next?

Who am I kidding? There were Republicans on C-Span complaining about Medicare cuts (in "Obamacare" of course) just a couple of days ago, even AFTER Paul Ryan unveiled his plan. They don't even think people will remember from one day to the next.

neiltheblaze April 16, 2011 at 7:07 am

Always accuse your opponents of doing exactly what you're trying to do. That's the Republican ethos is a nutshell.

Unfortunately, Democrats seem more than willing to compromise away their alleged "principles" at the slightest hint of opposition. They don't engage – they cave.

Oh – and I'd say willful amnesia is as American as apple pie and lynchings.

comrad_darkness April 16, 2011 at 1:29 pm

Real Americans&trad; will gravitate toward the righteous bullshit of the moment. It's the only quick cure for self-hatred.

proudgrampa April 17, 2011 at 12:24 pm

I just read your comment. Huh?

Young man, I don't believe most Americans remember what was said a minute ago!

freakishlywrong April 16, 2011 at 6:16 am

I've already written my congressman, demanding my money back. Given I'm 4 years under the vaunted 55 number, I want the money I've paid in to FICA for the last 36 years refunded with interest and want to opt out of having it taken out my paycheck going forward. This shit was NOT in the brochure. Given my congress critter is a Retardlican, I expect to be water boarded for my efforts. Was it Canada or Costa Rica again?

comptoneffect April 16, 2011 at 7:46 am

If you gotta pick one place to be water boarded, go with Costa Rica–the weather is nicer and beaches kick ass.

chicken_thief April 16, 2011 at 2:24 pm

Plus Imperial beer and legalized hookers! On the downside, isn't that where fat fuck Rush swore he would move to if Obamacare passed?

comrad_darkness April 16, 2011 at 2:43 pm

Yeah. Shows what his word is worth.

Zilch!

JustPixelz April 16, 2011 at 9:35 am

The 55 cutoff shows their political cowardice. If the Medicare "reform" does all the things they say — save money, more choices, etc — they'd want it for all current and all future seniors. By excluding over 55s, they delay the benefits for at least 10 years, and keep the old system until those people die — maybe 50 years from now. Two separate but unequal Medicare systems?

trampndirtdown April 16, 2011 at 9:39 am

Excellent point JP, I've been getting red-faced while calmly discussing this with republican friends.

weejee April 16, 2011 at 11:28 am

Isn't this just a healthcare redo of Brown v. Board of Education? Thought that separate but (not) equal already got the toss by the Supremez, much less this clearly separate and not equal.

Oh, my mistake, we now have the Roberts Court not the Warren Court.

Pres[ $ rm -r * ] April 16, 2011 at 4:31 pm

No waterboarding. You'll just be compelled to watch the new Atlas Barfed movie.

JackObin April 16, 2011 at 8:25 am

Drool….drool…dribble…dribble…where the Doritos?….merican idle….nonegro…..fat….lard….duh….duh….

4TheTurnstiles April 16, 2011 at 8:35 am

B-b-b-u-u-t the Objectivist spiritual-renewal evolruition is the wave of the future, the new age of prosperity and American capitalist greatness for ME and ME alone, on MY terms…

even the new agers are kissing the teabaggers' asses, and coming up hemorrhoids
http://integrallife.com/node/100382

imissopus April 16, 2011 at 1:34 pm

Nathaniel Branden and his ex-wife were Rand's two closest acolytes back in the day, running all the public organs that disseminated her philosophy (classes, magazine articles, etc.) She even had an affair with him. He's spent the last twenty or thirty years marrying Objectivism to that New Age-y spiritual bullshit.

4TheTurnstiles April 16, 2011 at 3:18 pm

what's trippy here is the shoe's on the other foot: the new agers such as Ken Wilber are looking to Branden for authority-by-association, and not the reverse. For reference, see Wilber's wingnut comments on Iraq (and yes, people take this guy seriously, or at least they used to):
http://wilber.shambhala.com/html/misc/iraq.cfm

you'd think if you live in a color-coded world, you'd at least keep the colors in order…

Goonemeritus April 16, 2011 at 8:52 am

I’m not one of those fancy pants actuarial types but I did pay attention in math class. It is well known that one half of lifetime medical expenditures occur in the last year of life. If the average Jane or Joe Q public lives to be 72 and will retire at 66, those 6 years prior to the terminal year will certainly cost as well, for argument sake lets guess another fifth of lifetime costs. That would leave less than one third of lifetime cost is being paid for at a present rate of 10k per year for 66 years. Now spread that 70% over 7 years and guess how much that insurance would cost.
So how will they make this work, they could reduce what’s covered or they could spread the costs to the young folk, which do you think. …… HAHA trick question they will do both.

proudgrampa April 17, 2011 at 12:25 pm

SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!

Fare la Volpe April 16, 2011 at 8:53 am

Duck You, the new hit single by Tea-Lo

I see you drivin' round town with the bill I hate
And I'm like "Duck you." (Ooh hoo hoo)
I guess the change in my checking wasn't enough
I'm like "Duck you and, uh, Duck you too."

Bet if I was richer
You'd be my bitch-a
Well ain't that some shit? (Ain't that some shit)
And though there's pain in my chest
Can't afford that new test
So just Duck you~ (Ooh hoo hoo)

Well I'm sorry
Can't afford a Ferrari
But that don't mean I'm a welfare queen
Guess Koch's an XBox
I'm more an Atari
Oooh, but the way you play that game's just mean

I pit the FOOOO-HOOO-OOOL
That voted for all you, woah-oah
(Yeah, they all gold diggas
Just some Koch gold diggas)
OOOOO-HOOOO-OOOO
I got some news for you
OOH, I really hate 'cho asses right now

I see you drivin' round town with the bill I hate
And I'm like "Duck you!" (Ooh hoo hoo)
I guess the change in my checking wasn't enough
So I'm like "Duck you, and yeah, Duck you too"

Said if I was richer
You'd be my bitch-a
Well ain't that some shit? (Ain't that some shit?)
And though there's pain in my chest
Can't afford that new test
So just Duck you~ (Ooh hoo hoo)

LetUsBray April 16, 2011 at 3:44 pm

Fucking awesome. Upfisted all the way to the elbow!

guangho April 16, 2011 at 9:08 am

If the racist old people covered by Medicare team up with greedy oligarchs, that will be just enough votes to hit copy and then paste in MS Access.

BZ1 April 16, 2011 at 9:23 am

As if The Donald and his ilk ever paid taxes…

JustPixelz April 16, 2011 at 9:37 am

I guess the Repubicans real retirement plan — put the seniors on an ice floe — is having some problems due to that pesky global warming.

memzilla April 16, 2011 at 10:09 am

Koch Industries Refrigeration Systems (Ice Floe Division) to the rescue! Now with more federal R&D munniez!

Dudleydidwrong April 16, 2011 at 10:09 am

But when you don't believe in global warming then the ice floe thing works well. And if the floe melts–well, we'll have a healthy shark population.

DashboardTrombone April 16, 2011 at 10:20 am

The tiny part of me that's still optimistic thinks that Barry's just enacting a subtle strategy whereby he gives the GOP enough rope to hang itself.

Oooops…that tiny part of me just died.

TsunamiAli April 16, 2011 at 10:26 am

Good article in The Nation by William Mitchell, "Beyond Austerity" which dispels a lot of the myths we have internalized about how national and global finances work, i.e., it's not like balancing our checkbooks.

Sorry, on first cup of coffee – will endeavor to be more snarky after I've fully woken up.

DahBoner April 16, 2011 at 3:23 pm

Yeah, it seems so obvious to me!

If I cut my hourly rate, then my income will go up!

Sure! See, with my now lower hourly rate, my employer will think that my time is a bargain!

And my employer will want me to work more hours!

That means by cutting my hourly rate, my income will magically go up!

Pay no attention to the fact that I will have to work more for perhaps the same or less money….

GinnehRED57 April 16, 2011 at 10:53 am

All my life, I've been just a year and a half too young to make the Cool Kids Cut. This shit has been going on since kindergarten, and pisses me off.

BaldarTFlagass April 16, 2011 at 11:43 am

Me too, but it did keep me out of the draft.

fuflans April 16, 2011 at 11:51 pm

we had punk rock.

bflrtsplk April 16, 2011 at 11:36 am

What?!?! That commie pinko Ryan still wants 25 percent of the income I receive on the interest I get on the money my grandpappy left us? Why, do you know how many sweatshops I can build around the globe with that kind of money? And don't get me started on the $2 a week jobs that will be lost in Indonesia making Nikes that I can sell for almost pure profit at $200 a pair. And Ryan just wants to take that away too. I tell ya, us rich guys just can't win.

DahBoner April 16, 2011 at 3:19 pm

Goodday,my name is Irena Coleman, 74yrs old, I am a cancer patient (according to the doctor, my chances are low) so i have decided to donate what i have to you/orphans/church ( $1,500,000 )….Please contact My lawyer (Attorney Bernie Madoff) at this email address so that he can assist you on how to receive the funds.

mereoblivion April 16, 2011 at 11:39 am

Sleep no more, McDuck hath murder'd sleep.

AKbum April 16, 2011 at 11:43 am

"Cialisbating to ROTC videos" Oh hell to the fuck yes I'm stealing this. Mr. Layne, I owe you a beer.

ttommyunger April 16, 2011 at 12:01 pm

Why not? Worked OK so far, right?

BaldarTFlagass April 16, 2011 at 12:04 pm

Looks like our downfist troll is a real Joe Lunchpail, gettin' a little overtime on the weekend even.

GeneralLerong April 16, 2011 at 12:07 pm

Who's designing and manufacturing the suicide booths? I'd like to invest my lifetime savings [all $666 of it].

memzilla April 16, 2011 at 2:53 pm

Pssh. Koch Industries, of course. But they're called Remembrance Chambers.

proudgrampa April 17, 2011 at 12:27 pm

SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!!!

Rotundo_ April 17, 2011 at 3:30 pm

And a great nacho cheese flavored start to your day Americans! Soylent Green Nacho, a Koch Industries Product.

Beowoof April 16, 2011 at 12:25 pm

That down fist troll has been through again, there is your future America, working on the internet, disapproving of liberal comments on a liberal blog for $.10 per comment. (The piece work is cheaper than paying $7.25 per hour).

weejee April 16, 2011 at 1:00 pm

If they're getting 10¢ a click they are getting overpaid by at least six orders of magnitude.

owhatever April 16, 2011 at 12:57 pm

I have decided to become a billionaire in order to benefit from the Tea Party government. Bein' old and poor ain't working out so well.

BarackMyWorld April 16, 2011 at 2:29 pm

This proves no one would decide to become rich if the tax rate was 40% instead of 35%.

proudgrampa April 17, 2011 at 12:32 pm

Reminds me of Steve Martin's old joke:

'YOU CAN MAKE A MILLION DOLLARS AND NOT PAY TAXES!
FIRST, MAKE A MILLION DOLLARS.
THEN WHEN THE TAX MAN COMES AND SAYS: YOU MADE A MILLION DOLLARS BUT DIDN'T PAY TAXES, YOU SAY: I FORGOT."

comrad_darkness April 16, 2011 at 12:59 pm

See, this is where Republicans have a huge advantage. They put extra energy into screwing over the people who would never vote for them anyway. The dems delusionally believe they get equal consideration. Idiots.

Pithaughn April 16, 2011 at 2:09 pm

Where is the shiny city? For 31 years they have promised a shiny city. Shiny city or shut up. Must go prepare pasture for goats, I am now raising my food myself. Any volunteers? Hint, I still have some distilled products left over from last years harvest!

Lost_Teabaggers April 16, 2011 at 2:25 pm

Okay Ken, I agree with some of what you're saying…especially the "alleged liberals" part, but I don't agree that Democrats are willing to impliment the Ryan, AKA we all get to suck the Koch's dicks with him Plan. Being interpretive, and yes I've gotten some interpretations wrong, so I'll leave room for your very sunny interpretation, but it seems the Dems are using this as comedic fodder to run against, which is pissing the Republicans off. Obama said he has no interest in reupping the Bush wealth redistribution scheme, and he's talking about cutting waste in Medicare. Translation? I think the privatized portions of Medicare are going to get defunded, like Advantage, etc.

I could be wrong, but I think you're wronging Obama here, he's been very adversarial to this plan and it's DOA in the Democratic Senate other than being an easy campaign prop. That's my interpretation, and since I don't see any Demo's praising this bill or the GOP for this bill, I'm going to say there's 95% chance I'm right.

memzilla April 16, 2011 at 2:49 pm

Ken is observing the fact that Obama has not spoken up strongly enough before this against the Rethuglican War on Poverty The Poorz. However, I'm hopeful like you, that he has been leading them into a trap of their own making.

Baiting your enemies into chasing you, and leading them into a U-shaped ambush, is a great tactic. The Dems used a parliamentary maneuver like that the other day on the House budget "plan."

BlueStateLibel April 16, 2011 at 4:33 pm

I sure hope you're right. I can't see how cutting a program that helps people who vote the most is going to help the Repugnants. They may have just met their Gettysburg and don't even know it.

Ken Layne April 16, 2011 at 5:39 pm

I hope you're right, too. But we have the entire history of two-party politics in this country as a pretty good argument against the tide suddenly turning against the aristocracy. That would take the kind of widespread labor revolts and desperate action by the unemployed and starving class that convinced FDR and his Wall Street friends that serious social reform would have to happen to prevent actual revolution. And I don't see *anything* like that in this country, do you?

Regardless of what Obama whispers (whispers!) to his donors at fundraising events, in public he has let the Republicans/Teabaggers make "the deficit" a crisis. When the fuck was the deficit the crisis under eight years of Bush/Cheney?

While it is obviously true that America's selling of debt to China is not the solution to anything, it is also obviously true that the wealth of America has been intentionally shaken ever further to the top, for 40 years now. The deficit is a minor goddamned side-effect of a horrible cancer.

DahBoner April 16, 2011 at 3:16 pm

Hello, my name is Chief Ovie Omo-Agege, a politician in Nigeria. I am aware that it is safe and more profitable to invest in your country….

sati_demise April 16, 2011 at 3:32 pm

The real housewives of Wall Street:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9etlLzuMfM

randcoolcatdaddy April 16, 2011 at 3:42 pm

“This budget keeps America exceptional,” Ryan said before the vote. “It preserves its promise to the next generation.”

Indeed, it keeps American first in the production of trust-fund idiot douchebags like George W. Bush.

The American Dream is alive and well – now, with Republicans and Obama in power, anyone with rich parents or a nice stock portfolio can grow up to be a useless pimple on the soul of humanity.

VinnyThePooh April 16, 2011 at 5:13 pm

I can only hope to be invaded by Canada.

Fukui_sanYesOta April 16, 2011 at 5:38 pm

The coastal blue states (and whoever else fancies coming along, bar Texas) should secede from Jebusland in the middle and join Canada in the "Greater North American Co-Prosperity Sphere", then laugh when the baggers realize that they've just lost almost all of the country's wealth and innovation.

Goonemeritus April 16, 2011 at 5:48 pm

It is our longest undefended border and 90% of Canada lives within an easy days march. Oh and by the way it wouldn’t be the first time.

donner_froh April 16, 2011 at 7:47 pm

Damn this looks like fun. Palin gets an appropriate welcome in Wiscosin.
http://bit.ly/fLJNQs

ShaveTheWhales April 16, 2011 at 11:39 pm

Goddamn, that was impolite. I'm so proud.

I wonder if the Alaskunt will twat about it "10K ppl ylld sht @ me whl gvng spch. Gotta celebrate it".

Doktor Zoom April 17, 2011 at 12:08 am

That was impressive–another video, posted by a Palin supporter much closer to the loudspeakers, still picks up the din of the counterprotesters; it sounds like Saint Sarah felt she had to shout to make herself heard–even with amplification.

4TheTurnstiles April 17, 2011 at 7:49 am

Well played, but who ate all the cheese curds?

undeterredbyreality April 17, 2011 at 12:21 pm

I gotta say: Sometimes I love this country.

weejee April 16, 2011 at 7:58 pm

ATTN: All Wonketteers under 55 years of age
We oldes will get to keep our Medicare. I'm not there yet, but they tell it's still mine.

Those of you under 55, if Ryan's Rape passes, then welcome to the GOPee 100% Estate Tax. That Gozznews.com bit makes it real clear what's gonna be happening if Ryan's Path to Impoverishment get passed. And the Estate Tax only works iffin' you got an estate. If that ain't the case, when your old and real sick, then see if you can find a box to make your death bed under a freeway. Ayn Rand was a compassionate conservative compared to this lot.

Please tell us beloved trolls, what don't you get about Ryan's budget? Goozner's and the CBO's math is not real steep. Is there any, just one, non-multimillionaire teatard out there who could 'splain how Bonercare is going to be so special? Y'all got some serious splain' to do here.

VinnyThePooh April 16, 2011 at 8:31 pm

The blind souls you speak of are quite content with being an urinal for the top 1% and will make no small attempt to convert those on the fence with the aid of Atlas Shrugged: The Movie opening.

Negropolis April 16, 2011 at 10:12 pm

OT:

Wow, Arizona Republic Movie Critic Billy Goodynoontz really didn't like Atlas Shrugged: Part I:

It has taken decades to bring Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged" to the big screen.

They should have waited longer.

The acting is so poor and the story so badly told that the viewer's feelings about Rand's novel – an epic ode to free-market fundamentalism – are almost immaterial (though if you're a devoted fan, you'll perhaps be more forgiving). This is the first of a planned trilogy – Rand's book is split into three parts, making the delineation easy – but if "Atlas Shrugged: Part 1" is any indication, don't hold your breath for Parts 2 and 3.

The dialogue is wooden, the delivery of it practically petrified. It's all black-and-white, no nuance.

"Why all these stupid altruistic urges?" Dagny whines to Reardon. "It's not being charitable or fair. What is it with people today?"

What, indeed? Schilling isn't nearly a strong-enough actor to impart the steely resolve Dagny requires. Marsden is worse, almost laughable as he sits between Michael Lerner and Jon Polito, cooking up schemes to keep Taggart Transcontinental relevant. The desire to shoo him back to the kids' table is powerful.

"Atlas Shrugged: Part I" is a dismal affair, so really, guys, no hurry with the next one.

So, how many days/weeks will he stay at the paper given the inevitable tea bag campaign to destroy him?

donner_froh April 17, 2011 at 8:36 am

One of the rabidly pro-Atlas Shrugged fans inadvertently summed it up in the comments: this movie is not meant to be "entertainment".

Good thing, honey.

undeterredbyreality April 17, 2011 at 12:18 pm

Is that like "this statement is not meant to be factual"?

Negropolis April 17, 2011 at 9:51 pm

More like "Wake up, sheeple! This is a manual, not a movie." kind of crazy.

weejee April 17, 2011 at 8:42 am

I'm waiting for the Donald Trump version – Atlas Rugged.

Doktor Zoom April 17, 2011 at 1:13 pm

I thought you were making the reviewer's name up, but I see it was just a typo. I can only imagine how unkind junior high school had to be for Billy Goodykoontz

Listen: Billy Goodykoontz has come unstuck in time.

BlueStateLibel April 17, 2011 at 2:55 pm

My local paper also panned the shit out of it. Maureen Dowd surprises today with a great take on it, well worth checking out.

I just don't get the whole retarded premise. If my competitors decided to sulk and go out of business, I'd be dancing with joy.

glamourdammerung April 17, 2011 at 11:26 pm

As a general rule, shootings require leaving the house, so the critic should be safe from a bulk of the Paultards.

horsedreamer_1 April 18, 2011 at 9:24 am

Jan Brewer has already said the critic will never work in Arizona, again.

lulzmonger April 16, 2011 at 10:12 pm

Exceptions were made.

Fukui_sanYesOta April 16, 2011 at 10:31 pm

Exceptions to social conscience, wanting to live in at least a pretence of a society which takes account of differences in upbringing, etc etc & so on

(plus I can't help but always upfist you because of the anime-girl-with-Schmeisser avatar; for some reason it's beautifully jarring juxtaposition)

x111e7thst April 17, 2011 at 9:05 am

Thus we replace the Death Panels, which would have at least allowed the olds to die with a modicum of dignity in a semi-private place with the unseemly spectacle of unattractive old people expiring beside the street and in the yards of that minority which has hung on to their houses. Not in my back yard you old bastard. Go have your stroke somewhere else.

widget2011 April 17, 2011 at 9:10 am

That's what really makes rank & file republicans look stupid. They think by reducing taxes on billionairs that "that" means them, because of their "rugged individualism" and ability to "pull themselves up by their bootstraps" that they will eventually be a billionaire, deserving those lower taxes. Or even better, they invest their meager earnings into oil futures and pray to adam smith's "invisable hand" ,or sky god G-bus.

ATLAS FARTED

VinnyThePooh April 17, 2011 at 10:44 am

I always get the "They've earned it" argument, which, of course, I spin on them every time they bitch about backassward management decisions that result in reduced benefits, mandatory overtime, and pitiful raises.

glamourdammerung April 17, 2011 at 7:42 pm

The clowns using that "argument" never can seem to explain how being born, the only skill a majority of the Fortune list's membership got on the list by doing is somehow more than just dumb luck.

Jukesgrrl April 17, 2011 at 6:11 pm

If they called the movie Atlas Farted, it might make some $$. Or Jackass Shrugged. Or Scream Atlas Shrugged on Elm Street. Or Atlas Shruggie's Entourage.

proudgrampa April 17, 2011 at 12:39 pm

I have been watching the Sunday morning talk shows.

Bottom line?

Everybody in Washington are a bunch of lyin' cocksuckers. Fuck 'em.

Simple solution? U.S. OUT OF AFGHANISTAN, IRAQ, LIBYA, GERMANY, JAPAN, etc.,
NOW!!!!!!!!!

I apologize for SHOUTING so much today: I'm tired, I'm depressed, and yes, I am a little drunk.

BarackMyWorld April 17, 2011 at 1:33 pm
El Pinche April 17, 2011 at 2:54 pm

I see Trump is exercising the Worthington Law:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke9iShKzZmM

Radio_Level_7 April 17, 2011 at 4:09 pm

Trump is the bigger dick when your business model is to gut and bankrupt and then sell off value assets.

BarackMyWorld April 17, 2011 at 7:55 pm

I didn't realize Rick Santelli had been a character on Mr. Show.

BlueStateLibel April 17, 2011 at 3:03 pm

Sometimes I wonder if Trump isn't a Dem plant, put in there to crap on the other Repub candidates and make a mess of their primaries, if he does go that far. There is no way this guy would ever be elected in a general election, and he's got to know that. He even at one time proposed raising taxes on the rich. http://articles.cnn.com/1999-11-09/politics/trump...

El Pinche April 17, 2011 at 3:44 pm

SSSSHHHHH.

4TheTurnstiles April 17, 2011 at 3:08 pm

Trump watched another reality TV show has-been, Sarah Palin, as she stayed in the media and in the money by threatening to run for president. He thought… shit, I can do *that.* And he's doing it better than she is right now.

emmelemm April 17, 2011 at 3:33 pm

"Anything you can do, I can do better
I can do anything better than you…"

{little musical note that I'm not talented enough to do a wingding for}

GeneralLerong April 17, 2011 at 4:55 pm

Yeah! If one starts to slobber just thinking about rich people, someone who inherited a fortune from daddy is 'way better than some Wasillabilly parvenue.

But they both look as if they're wearing dead animals on their heads, so there's that. Dunno if it's a downside or a feature.

Rotundo_ April 17, 2011 at 6:16 pm

Ask the golden question of anyone able to analyze Trump's holdings versus Mittens' holdings: Which asset collection would you rather have? I'm thinking Mittens has a more stable pile, the Donald's has to have boatloads of derivatives etc. and shaky crap that could come down at anytime, I think its why he is always ginning up new crap.

smokefilledfetus April 17, 2011 at 6:53 pm

Sheesh, did Ken go to Coachella?

zappadoo76 April 17, 2011 at 7:30 pm

I think the rich are preparing for the collapse of their system, and they want to grab as much as they can now, so they can ride out the depression in the manner of living to which they are accustomed. In addition, twenty years from now, they will still have plenty of money to invest as the whole vicious cycle begins again. Hence the tax breaks and superprofits. It's saving for a rainy day as the clouds gather. Prudent of them, isn't it?

widget2011 April 18, 2011 at 5:47 am

That is, if we don't "EAT" them first. EAT the rich!

Negropolis April 18, 2011 at 6:37 am

I've always thought this, myself. They've always got an advantage of being so high up to see things coming. Surely, they see what quite a few of us more attentive folks down the ladder are able to see. As they are wont to do, they've climbed up the ladder, and now they are pulling it up with them before the next wave/tide hits.

rocktonsam April 17, 2011 at 7:51 pm

hows that no tax cutty creating jobs thing workin out fer ya?

Fukui_sanYesOta April 17, 2011 at 9:33 pm

About as well as feeding a cat extra cat food hoping that the cat will have more energy to catch mice, I'd say.

Fukui_sanYesOta April 17, 2011 at 9:56 pm

Thanks, Yoda!

Negropolis April 17, 2011 at 9:56 pm

So, last week, in an attempt to continue to gut the state Department of Human Services, a Michigan state senator proposed reducing the stipend supplied to Michigan's orphans for clothes. He not only wants to do that, but make it so that the money can only be given out as gift cards to thrift stores. I shit you not.

Republican people are the best people, si?

Fukui_sanYesOta April 17, 2011 at 10:02 pm

the money can only be given out as gift cards to thrift stores

and how much would a program like that cost to implement, I wonder? It's not like there's already a "thrift store discover card" or some shit.

These motherfuckers are shameless. Utterly shameless.

donner_froh April 17, 2011 at 11:20 pm

In case anyone was wondering what a person who could seriously make such an insanely fucked up proposal:
http://news.michiganradio.org/post/plan-would-req...

Negropolis April 18, 2011 at 1:13 am

"I never had anything new," Caswell says. "I got all the hand-me-downs. And my dad, he did a lot of shopping at the Salvation Army, and his comment was — and quite frankly it's true — once you're out of the store and you walk down the street, nobody knows where you bought your clothes."

What an asshole. All they do, now, is pick and pick and pick away at poor people. Forget about business interests robbing the state of tax money and probably engaging in all kinds of illegalities. No, it's the fucking orphans robbing the treasury.

I tell you, I'm go between "we get what we deserve" and "I'm so fucking angry" on a daily basis, now. In Michigan, the Republicans took control of state government largely because of low-turnout. Even if we would have still lost the governors office, just a slight increase in Democratic turnout may have rescued the the state house and maybe SoS.

How many more times must Dems be shown that not voting is not an options? It's nearly too late if it's not, already. Once they dismantle our coalition, it's over.

Literally going after orphans, are we? WTF? Are we in some kind of Dickens novel?

glamourdammerung April 18, 2011 at 1:17 am

I am waiting for Little Andy Breitbart and James O'Keefe to put out some edited "orphan sting" tapes myself.

Negropolis April 18, 2011 at 1:23 am

I almost forget, here's the best part of this plan:

Caswell says the gift card idea wouldn’t save the state any money.

Yeah, no shit. This isn't about the budget; this is about robbing the least among us of their dignity so that some evil, black-hearted fucktard can get off on picking on someone less powerful than himself.

I have a feeling that this ultimately won't go anywhere, though, with this legislature, I'm not comfortable enough to say 100% that it won't happen. But, that this was even seriously raised by someone is just offensive all by itself.

BTW, this guy's got a masters degree in U.S. History. How ironic is that? Maybe, it's not ironic at all…

Doktor Zoom April 18, 2011 at 12:49 am

'Many thousands are in want of common necessaries; hundreds of thousands are in want of common comforts, sir.'

'Are there no prisons?"

'Plenty of prisons,' said the gentleman, laying down the pen again.

'And the Union workhouses.' demanded Scrooge. 'Are they still in operation?'

'Both very busy, sir.'

'Oh. I was afraid, from what you said at first, that something had occurred to stop them in their useful course,' said Scrooge. 'I'm very glad to hear it…. I don't make merry myself at Christmas and I can't afford to make idle people merry. I help to support the establishments I have mentioned–they cost enough; and those who are badly off must go there.'

'Many can't go there; and many would rather die.'

'If they would rather die,' said Scrooge, 'they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population."

Fukui_sanYesOta April 18, 2011 at 2:17 am

And the ghost of Christmas Future lead Scrooge to a cemetary.

'Here lies Tiny Tim, who eventually died of phossy jaw after being forced to work in the match factory'

'So child labor laws were overturned as well?' asked Scrooge, agog.

'Yes, and his wage was merely a bowl of watery turnip soup a day. Minimum wage was eliminated.'

Scrooge's grin widened as he asked 'And his crutch? What of that?'

'Now used as part of a roof support in a coal mine populated by Tim's compatriots'

'Unnngh!' exclaimed Scrooge, his face twisted into a grimace of ecstasy, as he ejaculated a thin dribble of foul-smelling seed into a papier-mache facsimile of a poor child's mouth.

BlueStateLibel April 18, 2011 at 8:13 am

Wow, picking on orphans now. How low can they sink? I think one can only conclude that these are some seriously mentally ill people.

catholic4condom April 18, 2011 at 12:21 am

Didn't Dick Cheney aka "Big Dick" say in 2002 that Reagan taught us that deficits don't matter? WTF?

Fukui_sanYesOta April 18, 2011 at 2:26 am

Didn't Reagan's first budget director admit that running up the deficit was a deliberate ploy in order to justify cutting back on the New Deal for ideological reasons? Why, yes, yes he did.

widget2011 April 18, 2011 at 6:50 am

Remember what JFK famously said : Ask not what America's plutocrats can do for you, ask instead "What can I do for America's plutocrats".

TsunamiAli April 18, 2011 at 9:05 am

I'm sorry I doubted you, Ken. I just read Glenn Greenwald's article about Obama knowing exactly what he is doing in these budget negotiations and is playing to the middle for his reelection. He makes a convincing argument. I was so naive! But what do I do, now? I have to support the Dems and cannot stay home on election day. I'm so confused! Gah, I hate these Monday morning revelations.

horsedreamer_1 April 18, 2011 at 9:30 am

BREAKING! Ayn Rand slurped the government teat. For retirement income. &, egad, death-panelling.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2011/04...

jzgplj April 18, 2011 at 11:09 am
sportshort April 18, 2011 at 1:21 pm

Why spend money on "death panels" when this "reform" will basically do the job for them? Everyone knows the olds can't read the fine print. You can't do a "control plus" on an insurance form. The perfect society for the Repugs would be something akin to "Logan's Run." When you get too old to make a buck off of, piss off and die. Make room for the next crop of slaves, you old fart sack wrinkly butts.

Swampgas_Man April 16, 2011 at 9:05 am

Or brakes.

weejee April 16, 2011 at 5:43 pm

Too Hipp !

Dashboard_Jesus April 16, 2011 at 11:23 pm

more up-fistula for you!

LetUsBray April 16, 2011 at 9:27 pm

That's the thing: If the congress with the big Democratic majorities of '09-'10 had pushed Obama in even a little bit of a progressive direction, we might have seen much better results. Instead, the Ben Nelsons and the Brat Stupaks and the Joe Fucking Liebermans set the tone.

For starters, it's past time to send all the blue dogs to a nice farm upstate where they can run and play with all the other collaborators.

user-of-owls April 16, 2011 at 10:07 pm

First, do no smarm.

horsedreamer_1 April 18, 2011 at 9:05 am

The tragedy of the Don UPminati: Seven Deadly Sins Theory is Stupak was pretty much as progressive as a Raul Grijalva, & as a white man from a Purple/Reagan Democrat state had much more power, but he allowed the rest of his progressivism to get sidetracked by il aborto/sacreligio.

poncho_pilot April 18, 2011 at 3:48 pm

no problem. as long as i know it wasn't a muslin plot and just an "isolated incident". =)

Negropolis April 18, 2011 at 11:38 pm

Sure, she's easy on the eyes to say the least, but she has an absolutely shitty personality. That's not to say I wouldn't be her kept man, but it'd be a dirty job.

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