IT'S MORNING IN AMERICA  9:18 am April 5, 2011

Obama Will Prosecute 9/11 Suspects In Kangaroo Court, For Freedom

by Riley Waggaman

They hate us for our alcoholic energy urine in a can

  • Yielding to dozens of Surveymonkey petitions, Barack Obama has decided that allowing Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and his merry 9/11 pranksters to be tried in a “normal” court — you know, where torture-induced confessions are not considered “evidence” — would be inappropriate, and that a sensationalized military kangaroo tribunal with a swift verdict would be much better for his reelection efforts. Anyway, now “justice” will be served? Sure! This is why we need indefinite detention camps, rape prisons and military comedy courts — if we don’t suspend habeas corpus, the terrorists will steal all of our precious freedums. [AP]
  • Instead of “another” story about radioactive dookie being tossed into the Pacific Ocean: Prosecution documents accuse elderly sex maniac and crook Silvio Berlusconi of paying thousands of (underage?) prostitutes to massage his wrinkly risotto balls, during his famous “bunga bunga” parties. (This is not really news, but these court documents are definitely worth reading!) [Reuters]
  • An ambitious bill which would allow hicks to use helicopters to kill feral hogs and wolves is making its way through the Texas legislature, yee-haw. [McClatchy]
  • Some college students won a basketball game. Other college students did not. [AP]
 
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Moonbatting Average April 5, 2011 at 9:23 am

That basketball game was an abortion. If Planned Parenthood had been defunded, it would have been a lot better.

trampndirtdown April 5, 2011 at 9:23 am

Makes me all warm and fuzzy remembering BO signing that thingy and saying "It's done" his first day on the job.

freakishlywrong April 5, 2011 at 9:32 am

Nothing warms a wingnut where his/her heart would be like demoralizing Libtards.

Swampgas_Man April 5, 2011 at 10:57 am

And then Congress immediately refused to let him do it.

MildMidwesterner April 5, 2011 at 9:24 am

Why use expensive helicopters? Japan has extra radiation laying around, and Texas has extra feral hogs. Why not combine the two for a win-win of irradiated barbeque deliciousness?

PsycWench April 5, 2011 at 9:34 am

Plus you wouldn't need a neon sign in the shape of a hog when you can use the actual hogs.

zhubajie April 5, 2011 at 8:02 pm

Because the result would probably be Hogzilla!

hollywooddood April 5, 2011 at 9:25 am

Silvio Berlusconi… rolls off the tongue, doesn't it?

LesBontemps April 5, 2011 at 9:27 am

Only if you're an under-age hooker, and are done sucking.

PsycWench April 5, 2011 at 9:43 am

Like a little ball of mercury.

weejee April 5, 2011 at 9:47 am

quicksilver wit

freakishlywrong April 5, 2011 at 9:26 am

While I'm disappointed about the KSM decision, really, Congress are the pussies here. It was a huge NIMBY fear campaign. Even Bernie Saunders voted against funding. Meh. Fuck the world.

Moonbatting Average April 5, 2011 at 9:33 am

Those NIMBY WATBs need to STFU and DIAF

freakishlywrong April 5, 2011 at 9:36 am

FTW.

riverside68 April 5, 2011 at 12:02 pm

Bernie voted against funding? *#%&#$*%^&
I hate democracy's craven capitulation to hysteria.
This is one of the biggest loads of BS to come down the pike in a long time.
These guys are criminals and need to be treated as such.
We have elevated them to warriors who we are too afraid to process in our maximum security prison system.
Geeze they sound pretty special don't they, maybe Allah is granting them special powers that make the west wet their pants if they get too close.
(Rant on: Yes I work in Financial District and worked with people killed on 9/11 and I think the US history in the middle east in the 20th century could not be more fucked up. But Western civilization is about the rule of law, not when it is easy, but when it is hard. When reason is under attack, we need to double down. Rant off.)

emmelemm April 5, 2011 at 1:20 pm

Excellent rant.

(There are so many things we should do not only when they are easy, but especially when they are hard.)

fuflans April 5, 2011 at 2:48 pm

i would give you so many more 'p's' for that if i could.

OC_Cesium-137 _Serf April 5, 2011 at 9:26 am

I have never ever watched a college or professional basketball game in my nearly 50 years on this rock. Do NOT understand college sports at all, and basically loathe all professional sports. Overpaid genetic freaks. Hate the territorial rivalry over a private enterprise…that demand tax-payer-funded arenas. Damn Barry today, too.

The End.

(Getting my coffee now)

weejee April 5, 2011 at 9:52 am

Like yer new name. The cesium 137 Tepco is spewing out is going to make Japan's surf really shitty saki as its half life is ~ 30 years.

OC_Cesium-137 _Serf April 5, 2011 at 11:01 am

thanx…I update it depending on the particular isotope in the Newport Beach breeze

fuck, I kinda miss the colour-coded warning days

DemmeFatale April 5, 2011 at 12:03 pm

I'm not reading the NYT anymore. I'm just going to follow your username for my info.

And I'm glad this basketball nonsense is over, too. (Not easy for someone with a 6'9" father and brothers who are 6'10" and 6'5".)

Fare la Volpe April 5, 2011 at 10:06 am

If I weren't half your age, I'd marry you. Upfisties galore!

undeterredbyreality April 5, 2011 at 10:25 am

There's always Silvio for you–oops, nope, you're too old.

Barbara_i April 5, 2011 at 10:10 am

Wow, now I know better than to invite you to my Super Bowl party.

OC_Cesium-137 _Serf April 5, 2011 at 11:07 am

Oh, I am a pretty good cook and host…just no reason to watch grown men get paid millions to act out violent fantasies of fat fucks on the couch…I prefer my porn to be sexy.

Barbara_i April 5, 2011 at 11:45 am

Yeah, but porn doesn't have cheerleaders….
wait, nevermind.

Doktor Zoom April 5, 2011 at 10:31 am
Swampgas_Man April 5, 2011 at 10:59 am

See, this is why the only sport I follow is women's pro wrestling. All the thrill of victory and surprisingly little homo-eroticism.

zhubajie April 5, 2011 at 8:30 pm

I can understand how *playing* might be fun, but watching is boring.

ManchuCandidate April 5, 2011 at 9:26 am

I stopped caring about March Madness after Kansas choked (again) putting the final destruction to my bracket. Fucking VCU. Fucking UConn. Fucking Kansas St.

Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with Kansas? I don't see any difference between them and tractors as they both have an automatic choke.

James Michael Curley April 5, 2011 at 9:50 am

I stopped caring about March Madness before there was a March Madness. In HS could not understand why a bunch of guys chased another guy bouncing a ball on the floor and then turned around and did it in the other direction for an hour. Now crouching down in the grass, jumping up on command and slamming into another guy – that wasa real sport.

slithytoves April 5, 2011 at 9:27 am

I used to make killer fried risotto balls topped with my own pesto. Never again. Thanks Riley.

Hera Sent Me April 5, 2011 at 9:28 am

Texas is allowing the shooting of feral hogs from helicopters? I never thought the day would come that we Texans would be so cruel to our state bird.

V572..whatever April 5, 2011 at 9:43 am

Isn't this just a legislative slap at Arkansas? Won't Little Rock soon pass a bill allowing longhorn steers to be, I don't know, abused in rodeos?

SorosBot April 5, 2011 at 9:48 am

Texas must have something against the Huckabees to legalize shooting them from helicopters.

kissawookiee April 5, 2011 at 12:16 pm

What, did Texas just legalize shooting feral Gulf walruses from helicopters too?

weejee April 5, 2011 at 9:56 am

Yeah, they slip the hook into the fetlock and oopsups-a-daisy — Hook them Horns.

SorosBot April 5, 2011 at 10:01 am

Or, to the rest of the world, the heavy metal devil horns; it was funny to see the Bushes always making that hand symbol not knowing what it meant to the vast majority of people, basically everyone who wasn't from Texas.

V572..whatever April 5, 2011 at 10:11 am

Does everybody know what Barack's Hawaiian "hang loose" gesture means? Cuz it's kinda gross.

unclejeems April 5, 2011 at 2:20 pm

In our age, all things are possumble.

CrankyLttlCamperette April 5, 2011 at 9:28 am

Wait, kangaroos are running our tribunals? We're even outsourcing THAT?

PsycWench April 5, 2011 at 9:32 am

Marsupial-Americans are the wave of the future, CLC.

weejee April 5, 2011 at 9:57 am

That Hopey's just a hoppin'. But at least it wasn't a wombat or Tasmanian Devil court.

mereoblivion April 5, 2011 at 9:34 am

We'll Roo the day.

donner_froh April 5, 2011 at 9:28 am

"Otherwise, I'll be left with my university degree and a kick in the arse, like so many other kids." (Berlusconi bunga-bunga babe)

The future is just as bright for college graduates in Italy as in the United States of Amerikkka.

Monsieur_Grumpe April 5, 2011 at 9:28 am

Wouldn’t it be a great headline if Oingo Boingo played at one of those bunga bunga parties and Berlusconi was caught with a smoking bong while the band played a cover of Bang a Gong?

trampndirtdown April 5, 2011 at 9:32 am

I'm going with the Scissor Sisters for the alliterative block.

mereoblivion April 5, 2011 at 9:35 am

Long as we can keep Duran Duran out of earshot, I'm cool with it.

Doktor Zoom April 5, 2011 at 10:37 am

I'd read about it on BoingBoing, but damned if I'd search it on Bing.

riverside68 April 5, 2011 at 12:07 pm

I think you missed the Boeing Boeing play reference.
Other than that, pretty good coverage

dailyworldwatch April 5, 2011 at 3:07 pm

Can we somehow fit in Kim Jong Il's Taepodongs in it?

Mumbletypeg April 5, 2011 at 9:30 am

An ambitious jobs bill which would allow hicks to use helicopters to kill feral hogs and wolves is making its way through the Texas legislator

Because said legislator was so offended by the bill he crumpled it up and swallowed it à la Robbie Coltrane's "Fitz" in Cracker.

mereoblivion April 5, 2011 at 9:36 am

If only even one Texas legislator were as anorexic as Robbie C.

PsycWench April 5, 2011 at 9:30 am

Prosecution documents should accuse elderly sex maniac and crook Silvio Berlusconi Donald Trump of paying thousands of (underage?) prostitutes to massage his wrinkly risotto balls scalp and thinning hair, during his famous “bunga bunga” "The Apprentice" after-parties.

fixed that for you

LabRodent April 5, 2011 at 9:32 am

Kangaroos have courts? Then again marsupials or a cunning lot.

Swampgas_Man April 5, 2011 at 11:02 am

They have the jury in their pocket.

Sue4466 April 5, 2011 at 9:33 am

If we give all our freedoms away, no one can steal them. Problem solved.

trampndirtdown April 5, 2011 at 9:33 am

Transocean execs are going to be sooo jealous when Tepco execs get their safety bonuses next year.

SorosBot April 5, 2011 at 9:34 am

Ah, Berlusconi; doing his best to make our politicians look honest and pure by comparison. Still, the Republicans have got to be looking at him to learn how they too can get caught hiring scores of 14-year-old prostitutes and stay in office for years.

Oh, and at that stupid college basketball shit is over. Every year, I try my best to completely ignore it, but people will not stop bringing that stupid thing up and will not take "I don't care" for an answer.

freakishlywrong April 5, 2011 at 9:39 am

Truthfully, I'd KILL for a good old fashioned Republican sex scandal right about now. Preferably, involving that asshole Eddie Munster guy, Paul Ryan. (The Great White Hope™)

LesBontemps April 5, 2011 at 9:41 am

Easy out: "I had Temple/'Nova to go all the way." End of conversation.

SorosBot April 5, 2011 at 9:51 am

Yeah, but that doesn't help with things like my weekly Quizzo game two weeks ago, when over half the questions were about the stupid fucking basketball tournament. And my teams' sports nerds were all gone that night.

trampndirtdown April 5, 2011 at 9:54 am

Did you notice the troll now has your old avatar, I think someone likes you.

SorosBot April 5, 2011 at 9:58 am

Oh, I noticed; it almost makes it seem like the obsessive stalker may be somewhat mentally ill.

lulzmonger April 5, 2011 at 11:34 am

Hmm, I bet Darrel Issa can afford to buy FOX (or at least a majority share) if he gets a few rich Congressbrahs to chip in, so the Berlusconi Gambit may come to the USA after all.

Still gonna be a lot harder to sell the spin – after all, you KNOW those 14-year-old hookers will all be boytoys.

LesBontemps April 5, 2011 at 9:35 am

WTF, Bamz, you really think you can't trust a jury of Real Merkins(tm) in a gen-u-wine Fe(de)ral court to convict Kahlid Sheikh Mohammed? If that guy was found guilty of half of what he already admitted to (even before the torturez) he'd be in SuperMax forever, until he meets the death needle. You're missing a golden opportunity for some election-year courtroom drama/political theater, dude!

V572..whatever April 5, 2011 at 10:00 am

Unless the judge says, as he or she should, "Mr Holder, all your 'evidence' is fruit from of poison true, not admissible in court, and therefore I'm setting KSM free to murder you all in your beds!" That Fourth Amendment is motherfucker. Good thing we just got rid of it.

LesBontemps April 5, 2011 at 10:17 am

Pah, as if you would need evidence for a conviction. Dude's name is enough for any Real Merkin.

(Besides, KSM has repeatedly said he wants to confess and be found guilty. Why not let him?)

V572..whatever April 5, 2011 at 10:36 am

Because the purpose of the criminal justice system is not to fulfill the wishes of the accused?\Oh, I forgot. The purpose of the CJS is to provide therapy for relatives of victims.

Swampgas_Man April 5, 2011 at 11:04 am

The real purpose of the CJS is to provide procedurals for CBS and DickWolf.

LesBontemps April 5, 2011 at 11:06 am

So you bring KSM before an actual real Merkin US District Court and … what, refuse to allow him to enter a plea? Refuse to allow him to take the stand? Refuse to allow him a knowing waiver of 5th Amendment rights? How does this play out?

And of course, this trial has absolutely nothing to do with criminal justice; this is pure political theater for both the government and KSM (and all the bloviators of the commentariat). But just because it's a show trial doesn't automatically mean the result isn't warranted or justly obtained. And to the extent it is in fact political theater, done properly it can be effectively used for a variety of purposes — and everyone gets what they want. Except the scare-mongering promoters of kangaroo court "military tribunals."

AJW@[redacted] April 5, 2011 at 11:58 am

Then we go after him for tax evasion, because we just know he hasn't paid taxes on all that room, board and medical care he's been receiving in lieu of pay over the last 10 years.

harry_palmer April 5, 2011 at 9:37 am

Kangaroos insist on having only trials they can win held offshore somewhere like Tasmania? Cuz otherwise they're getting slandered here.

mereoblivion April 5, 2011 at 9:37 am

Chuckle, guffaw: You said "students," twice, in a very short paragraph about the NCAA!

SorosBot April 5, 2011 at 9:45 am

Ridiculous. They are unpaid professional athletes; they do not actually attend school.

deanbooth April 5, 2011 at 9:39 am

`No, no!' said the Queen. `Sentence first–verdict afterwards.'

`Stuff and nonsense!' said Alice loudly. `The idea of having the sentence first!'

`Hold your tongue!' said the Queen, turning purple.

`I won't!' said Alice.

`Off with her head!' the Queen shouted at the top of her voice.

Pop_Socket April 5, 2011 at 9:40 am

I've seen better high school JV scrimmages than that basketball game last night.

PsycWench April 5, 2011 at 10:19 am

The squimmages are even worse.

Pop_Socket April 5, 2011 at 9:41 am

It just drives Texas insane when Alaska has something they don't.

LabRodent April 5, 2011 at 9:46 am

No. Texas is already insane.

zhubajie April 5, 2011 at 8:35 pm

So they're gonna hire one of the Palin clan to move in?

Monsieur_Grumpe April 5, 2011 at 9:41 am

Hunting feral hogs doesn’t need helicopters just get some irresistible bait like Newt Gingrich dressed in nothing but a pair of sow ears talking about military women in trenches.

weejee April 5, 2011 at 10:00 am

They're going to be hunting feral rugs too?????

karen April 5, 2011 at 10:28 am

See I thought they meant that they were going to be hovering around Walmarts picking off the hogs walking out the doors. Like fish in a barrel.

zhubajie April 5, 2011 at 8:36 pm

Feral hogs are generally lean and muscular. The males have huge tusks, for ripping up their enemies. It might be fun to see a video of them making short work of Newt!

donner_froh April 5, 2011 at 9:42 am

Indefinite detention without trial is the mark countries whose human rights records should be emulated by all nations: the People's Republic of China, Uzbekistan, Burma, the United States of Ame…oops.

zhubajie April 5, 2011 at 8:38 pm

Oh, the whole military tribunal system might have been copied from the PRC! Probably it'll become the norm for most of us and the old fashioned expensive system reserved for our super-richies.

donner_froh April 5, 2011 at 8:49 pm

Advanced, streamlined justice for the masses. Efficiency is the hallmark of the PRC in lots of ways.

zhubajie April 6, 2011 at 4:15 am

Surprisingly, educated people in China really buy into the mythologyof American justice, honest government, etc. Tell them aboutcorruption or stolen elections and they are quite surprised. Thejudges now get real legal training; they are not just senior policemenanymore. Likewise, state prosecutors want to reduce the number ofdeath penalty crimes, the number of death penalties (by 40%, somesay).China is trying to get better; the US, I hate to say, is trying to get worse.

Come here a minute April 5, 2011 at 9:46 am

I for one had a great March Madness — now I can't wait to see how well I do at ignoring the College World Series, too.

Dudleydidwrong April 5, 2011 at 11:20 am

Be careful if you visit Omaha, NeBRAska. The surveyor's mark will be on you. Those people think that god takes his two-week vacation in Omaha during the CWS.

Fare la Volpe April 5, 2011 at 9:46 am

Kangaroos aren't very American. I bet they have plenty of those in Kenya.

neiltheblaze April 5, 2011 at 9:48 am

Shooting feral hogs from helicopters? Well, then – Haley Barbour better stay the hell out of Texas.

mereoblivion April 5, 2011 at 9:50 am

Thx 4 telling your shame 2B ashamed of itself.

V572..whatever April 5, 2011 at 9:58 am

Libtards just don't understand that some criminals are too scary to give fair trials to. Obama: keeping us "safe," so long as we're not accused of scary crimes. Cuz once you are there's no way to prove it wasn't you.

Fare la Volpe April 5, 2011 at 10:02 am

Why would you be accused of a crime you didn't commit? That's just silly.

V572..whatever April 5, 2011 at 10:08 am

Yeah, just ask that dude from Nawlins.

SorosBot April 5, 2011 at 10:11 am

Nancy Grace, is that you?

Terry April 5, 2011 at 9:59 am

Ok, so the GOPers pulled a swifty and got language in that approps bill that says that the Gitmo prisoners can't be held on American soil. That supposedly made it so that no civilian trial can take place, although I have to believe there was a way around that. The GOPers get their way and the Gitmo prisoners are tried before military tribunals. Then what happens to them? Does the American soil exclusion extend to after they are convicted? Do they go back to Gitmo for the rest of their lives or the length of their terms if convicted? I don't understand what happens from here on out.

Thunderclees April 5, 2011 at 10:13 am

There isn't a way around it. That's why Holder and Plouffe did a little happy dance once it passed.

What happens from here out? The Obama Administration keeps steering toward the middle and wins in a landslide in 2012.

Terry April 5, 2011 at 10:24 am

I don't have a problem with a bit of middle mixed in, depending on the subject, BUT these prisoners have been a damn national disgrace for years. Once convicted, and we can sort of assume that KSM will be convicted, do they go to a military prison?

Thunderclees April 5, 2011 at 10:28 am

That's still unclear. The supermax prisons have been doing an awfully good job, and the "Blind Sheik" is being held just outside Raleigh in a medical prison. But Leavenworth could probably do the same job, too.

The important thing is that we all don't have to think about this again for a while, and isn't that just the best?

hollywooddood April 5, 2011 at 9:59 am

Gitmo, pshaw. Everybody knows we got our freedums back in the midterm elections.

Fare la Volpe April 5, 2011 at 10:03 am

Inane/Bullshit 2010!

Mumbletypeg April 5, 2011 at 10:01 am

…Republicans want no detainees from Guantanamo Bay brought into the United States…. the administration has no intention of moving Guantanamo Bay detainees into a shuttered Illinois prison [originally] intended for Gitmo detainees to be housed

Send them to Grayson County, VA. It appears to be removed enough from civilization, and we're pissing out money to maintain this vacant, useless facility anyways.

freakishlywrong April 5, 2011 at 10:04 am

Republicans and their hypocritical hysteria about "Murican' Exsheptionalizm". Don't even trust our judicial system and a leading lawmaker refers to being in Congress as "being behind enemy lines" and calls the duly elected President a "gangster". Exceptional!".

donner_froh April 5, 2011 at 10:11 am

I guess it isn't surprising that none of these assholes realize that every imperial power has been "exceptional" and created by god to rule the world. Alexander, Roman empire, Brits in the 19th century, etc. etc.

donner_froh April 5, 2011 at 10:09 am

This is why we need indefinite detention camps, rape prisons and military comedy courts — if we don’t suspend habeas corpus, the terrorists will steal all of our precious freedums.

Real men don't need the rule of law–our deep fried lard on a stick is good enough for us.

tcaalaw April 5, 2011 at 10:09 am

An ambitious bill which would allow hicks to use helicopters to kill feral hogs and wolves is making its way through the Texas legislature

What's the over-under before the first helicopter hunting party "accidentally" bags a swarthy person standing too close to the U.S./Mexico border?

Troubledog April 5, 2011 at 10:10 am

Some college students won a basketball game. Other college students did not. Many students were disappointed by the outcome, others were not.

- David Brooks

weejee April 5, 2011 at 10:21 am

That's the most profound thing Brooks has *written* in years. Well done TD.

Troubledog April 5, 2011 at 10:18 am

That's why I pack a Nina, fuck a misdeameanor
Beating KSM like Ike beat Tina

MinAgain April 5, 2011 at 10:23 am

An ambitious bill which would allow hicks to use helicopters to kill feral hogs and wolves is making its way through the Texas legislature, yee-haw.

Amateurs. In Tennessee, we already have a state constitutional right to hunt and fish. However, we're a little short on wolves.

mavenmaven April 5, 2011 at 10:29 am

In our end-of-weimar Merka, kangaroo courts are where most of our wonkette comments will be ultimately reviewed.

mumbly_ジョジョ April 5, 2011 at 10:43 am

So, yeah, super-pissed about this, since it makes Gitmo, -which let's remember, was only dreamed up to keep detainees off US soil so that Bush could justfiy torturing them without any reprecussion, on the argument that the Constitution doesn't apply to "war zone" camps right next door and thousands of miles away from any actual conflict zone- a pretty much permanent fixture of American "justice", forever.

mumbly_ジョジョ April 5, 2011 at 10:44 am

More specifically, of course, I'm angry at congress for being full of so many literal fascists who consider all those "trial" and "burden of proof" and "no torture" elements of our justice system to be quaint and worthless- and not just in this case, but in an ever-expanding swiss cheese of "exceptions" and "special cases", and the Obama adminstration for lacking the stones to actually claim clear executive authority in a case where it clearly applies, even above and beyond Dubya's insane unitary executive claims. I mean, bloody hell, Bush vetoed a defense bill for hinting at suggesting a loose itinerary of our purposeless occupation in Iraq, you'd think Bam could have at least done this much when it came to closing our no-trial torture prisons.

No snark here, just rage.

PublicLuxury April 5, 2011 at 11:20 am

Gawd. I hate mornings in America

BZ1 April 5, 2011 at 11:51 am

Brock will be hunting Khalid Sheikh Mohammed from a helicopter at a Texas basketball game?

DemmeFatale April 5, 2011 at 11:57 am

I always thought "dookie" was spelled "dukey."
(Go figure.)

NadePaulKuciGravMcKi April 5, 2011 at 2:12 pm

Open trials would expose too much!

profiteers and parasites
government criminals
media criminals
the 9/11 scam

zhubajie April 5, 2011 at 8:41 pm

How long before all those armed Texans in helos start shooting each other? Probably it's easier to find another helo than to find a boar hog in the brush.

freakishlywrong April 5, 2011 at 10:09 am

I hope your armed.

not that Dewey April 5, 2011 at 10:21 am

Almost? Somewhat?

SorosBot April 5, 2011 at 10:10 am

I've got some sharp carving knives; those can work.

freakishlywrong April 5, 2011 at 10:34 am

Jesus stupid. You're. Gaddamm co-workers wantin' input.

V572..whatever April 5, 2011 at 11:23 am

I’m (obviously) not a lawyer, but it seems to me that we should try KSM like any other criminal. The system ought to be more important than any one trial. If he wants to grandstand excessively, the judge can go Julius Hoffman on his ass and have him tied up, which looks terrible to the world too, but better than just perpetual confinement @Gitmo.

riverside68 April 5, 2011 at 12:16 pm

I am a lawyer in recovery and there is no way he would not get convicted of enough to max him out, and in the process take him down to common criminal level.
Just ask Omar Abdel-Rahman from, as the FBI calls it, "Trade Boom 1" fame. Shit, one of OAR's lawyers is now in jail for talking about her client.

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