Apparently last year’s Koran-burn-threatening pastor Terry Jones decided he wasn’t getting enough attention, so last week he actually did go through with burning itself. Normally a pastor saying hateful things who only has a half dozen or so followers would be ignored, but because we’ve been graced with a thing called the modern news media, this everglade cretin’s actions were once again dutifully and enthusiastically reported, and the news reached Afghanistan, where the awaiting hideous face of humanity used it as an opportunity to murder 22 people. For Lindsey Graham, the scent of burning paper and human flesh was as sweet as the smell of freshly made ham biscuits, a chance for the government to devour free speech in the name of war.
I wish we could find some way to hold people accountable. Free speech is a great idea, but we’re in a war. During World War II, you had limits on what you could do if it inspired the enemy.
So according to Lindsey Graham, Americans at home couldn’t show their hatred for the Germans back then, because that might have incited the Germans to want to kill them. Huh? Tell that to Donald Duck. Americans loved inciting the enemy. That’s why they put their immigrant relatives in camps! (Maybe. There must have been some reason.)
Matt Welch:
You know what? We’re always going to be in a war, thanks in no small part to the Lindsey Grahams of the world.
Somebody likes free speech! If you love free speech so much you should do it in the dark depths of a closet where nobody can see you. That’s where Lindsey Graham does his most cherished things, and it seems to be working out great for him. [Reason]
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Its not Free Speech unless some pastor is forcing you to hear it at gunpoint.
"If you love free speech so much you should do it in the dark depths of a closet where nobody can see you"
He really should come out of the dark depths of his closet. This guy is gayer than Elton John's fanny pack. (not that there's anything wrong with that)
I don't think you are going to convince people here that there is nothing wrong with a fanny pack, Barb.
Fun fact. Did you know that in the UK and Ireland, the word "fanny" refers to a woman's lady bits? Use of the term "fanny pack" over there, particularly around guys who have had a few pints, will result in gales of laughter.
"Did you know that in the UK and Ireland, the word "fanny" refers to a woman's lady bits?"
So, then, what's their word for butt?
"Camilla Parker Bowels"
Arse, I'd imagine.
Do their fanny packs contain batteries?
"He's so deep in the closet that he can see Narnia." — my new favorite phrase.
"I love the smell of Napalm on the freedom of speech in the morning, it smells like freedumz."
‘Free Speech Is a Great Idea’
So is you making believe you’re straight.
I thought the Gays were a fun-loving peaceful people.
It's off-season. No parades, no Carnival — what else is he gonna kvetch about?
Not the closeted ones, Lab.
As long as nobody burns the ham biscuits no harm done.
Everglade cretin? He has nothing to do with South Florida or the Everglades. He is Red Neck Cracker Crazy, not South Florida Psycho Crazy. Big difference.
Jack must of went to a GOVERNMINT SCHOOL he doesn't no any bettter!!!!
Actually he went high school with Rush Limbaugh. Terry Jones I mean not Lindsey. and he took the free car and then burned the book anyway. Look it up sheeple.
I think Lindsey would look nice in a strapless gown with a sweetheart neckline. Prom is right around the corner.
And with a little blue sparkle eye shadow he'll be the belle of the ball.
Free speech is a great idea, unless you are saying sumthin' ol' Lindsey don't cotton to. Then you'd best just hol' yer tongue, boy. Wretched scoundrel.
Since when do we hold people accountable in the stupid country? (See previous post). Oh, and by the way Hambiscuit, he's one of y'alls. No way this dude voted for the black guy. Own it.
i hate it when miss lindsey says anything because then i have to spend the entire day fighting off ham biscuit cravings.
Holy Fuck, what is the matter with these morons? I bow to no-one on my hatred of Jones and would happily hit him in the pornstache if I ever saw him – but guess what he gets to say whatever he wants just like the GOP and other Nazis.
We are gremlins from the Kremlin, we mess up Messerschmitts. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Rhapsody_%28...
"Free" Speech? Sounds like another Democrat handout to me.
It's time to stop these free entitlements and give the top-income earners another tax cut with the savings.
Now THAT'S good ole republican thinkin'!
Have you seen Paul Ryan's proposed budget? That's pretty much what it is (along with raising taxes on everyone but the rich).
Oh yeah, and privatizing medicare. What could possibly go wrong? Although I'm not sure what the savings would be from eliminating free speech, it isn't hard to think like they do. They've always had a hard-on for cutting taxes I just don't remember it being such a fetish for them.
"…you had limits on what you could do if it inspired the enemy."…
Like Lindsey Graham being a douche, which I am sure "inspires" the enemy. Hell, at this point pretty much ANYTHING American inspires our enemies.
Lindsey should watch what he says. Oh, wait…
Anyhow, these shitbrains in Afghanistan who kill people over a burned copy of their religious text have proved to me once and for all that there is no fucking hope (particularly when dope-fiend Karzai helped inflame the UN killers) and Obama just needs to fess up that being there is a huge fucking mistake and pull our troops out of there straightaway. And how many Korans have been burned in bombings carried out by the Taliban and Al Qaeda? Maybe they should kill themselves, maybe?
I thought Lieberman was Droopy the Dog.
"I thought Lieberman was Droopy the Dog. "
Lieberman is clearly Dr. Zoidberg.
I believe, sir, you are referring to Mr. Droopy Dawg. Learn how to spell correctly, fer chrissakes.
Downfister is here just saw GuyClinch and several others drop. Really even this one?
The man with the girl's name is getting his wars mixed up; World War I was the one that featured a bunch of blatant violations of the First Amendment's free speech provisions, with anti-war and anti-draft protesters getting arrested in cases that the Supreme Court at the time ruled constitutional in decisions later Courts admitted were a big fuck-up; World War II's big Constitutional violations were against the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments, with the Japanese internment.
Hey Lindsey Graham, You know what else you could tell Donald Duck ? …
This looks to me like an instance of inciting our friends to violence. These are the hearts and minds we are hoping to win.
The right to free speech trumps (excuse my French) other factors, I agree, but this situation leads me to despair. What should happen is that our bold example of freedom that is secure enough to tolerate even repugnant expressions of opinion would impress and inspire Afghani and Pakistani and Iraqi people. That doesn't seem bloody likely, though. The zealots that behead UN employees are going to be the ones attracting admiration. This is the YouTube version of anthrax through the mail.
Florida: #50 in funding for education, #1 in alligator attacks.
Let us all remind ourselves of the basic civic lesson that Free Speech means government can't prohibit speech, and that's all it means. There is no law against telling telling this pastor what a horrible idea his "Freedom" is, even if you're in the government, and outside the government, we are free to shout at him to shut the fuck up and retaliate by any legal means (boycotts, protests, etc.).
Fair enough. Then I resolve not to attend his church or make any donations to it. For the rest of this year.
We won't need to worry about "free" speech too much longer. Citizens United and the Koch brothers will see to that pretty soon. Just the way freedom of the press used to belong to the man who owned one, freedom of speech will belong to Rupert Murdoch and Clear Channel
"Just the way freedom of the press used to belong to the man who owned one, freedom of speech will belong to Rupert Murdoch and Clear Channel "
It will be interesting to see (it sort of already is) the effect that the innertoobs will have on this. Freedom of speech used to be balanced off against the fact that nobody would publish or broadcast unpopular opinions. Now anyone can (and does) have a blog, Twitter account, etc. It may be the last refuge of true freedom of speech.
Burning Q'rans is not free speech, its just being an idiot asshole. And unfortunately that too is protected.
I'm all for the Reverend Cracker having all this free speechifying rights and stuff, but, since he's the one who is so loving of Koran-burning, next time he burns one, we should give him a mandatory free vacation, all expenses-paid, including airlift and helicopter ride to the public square in the center of Kabul, so he can better enjoy the results of his deliberate provocations, I mean, its the least we can do for him, its not in any way intended to stifle his free speech, no, I think this would be a celebration of his free speach.
I like that idea. He could do his evangelical duty and proselytize directly. That would certainly win some hearts and minds*!
*win them in agreeing to chop HIS head off ASAP in order to get him to STFU.
I would imagine that he would have better luck in converting those Godless heathens to worship Muscular Jeebus from a street corner in downtown Kabul instead of Gator Tail, FL.
I like it, too. I mean, he wants the Muslins to know about burning the Qur'an, because it will make them love Jeebus. What better way for him to reach his intended audience? We will have to give plenty of advance advertisement.
I think that Lindsey Graham is the biggest self-hating closet case faggot in Washington, DC.
Of course, I wouldn't say that out loud now that we're at war, of course.
We're at war against self-hating closet fags, aka Republican elected officials?
Oh Lindsey, when you get to pretend heaven Jesus is going to give you such a spanking.
Shit, Hammy B. will love that. Especially if Jeebus is the hateful American Jeebus of current vogue.
Joo hating Jeebus is coming May 21st. if he doesn't have a conflict.
Freedom isn't free.
It currently costs $107.94 a barrel.
So so well said. If only I could endlessly upfist this.
We aren't in the Middle East for oil! It's the endless beaches….
Lab Manager just walked by and asked why was there a picture of Lindsay Graham surrounded by ham biscuits on my computer screen………..I had nothing
Depending on what kind of lab you're in, tell him it's the new icon for the pig-heart transplant research you've been doing. Or maybe pig-anus.
I got nothing….Who's the good guy here!
Jon Hamm? (Well, he's sort of an anti-hero, but that's all you get on cable . . . )
I get that my issue is simpler, in a case like this were everyone is over reacting (admittedly some more scary than others) to whom do you bring the snark. I'm still new to this blogy thing perhaps Wonkette needs to publish a style book.
Free Speech vs. Bad Taste…….The old Lenny Bruce conundrum.
Snark gone. Black hatred is all that is left. I truly understand what words like "militant" and "radicalized" mean these days.
Oh, hello, FBI watch lists! Fancy meeting you here!
Lindsey wishes he was Donald Duck-you get to hang around a bunch of "boys" without your pants on. Wearing a sailor suit.
Yeah, those are, um, my nephews — that's the ticket.
Coming out works better in peacetime too.
Every time Senator Hammy-Pie takes his face off of Lieberman's lap to get some air he also invariably scarfs down a dozen or so Ham Biscuits and says something really fucking stupid. Keep up the good work, Lindsay, we love ya here in trickle-down land.
Free speech is for corporations only, morans. Get used to it.
I will never be able to eat ham biscuits again with out gaging, Lindsey you motherfucker!
After Graham is finally voted out of office, he and another "confirmed bachelor" are going to buy an old home together in either Savannah or Charleston and spend their golden years rennovating the home and attending art events.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech…
Unless a mincing closeted Senator from South fucking Carolina says so.
Works for me.
I'm still stuck on the fact that the other "punishments" the crazypants pastor was considering for that totally fairly tried and cross-examined Koran included drowning and facing a firing squad. Uhhh yay for due process?
I don't remember reading anything about a formal Congressional declaration of war. Dammit, did I miss another important text message of state?
Shorter: Blah blah ham biscuit blah blah blah ham biscuit blah.
Naughty boys *deserve* a spanking on their saucy bare bottoms.
"Hammy B cannot put anything in his mouth without a giggle"
I'll be awhile recovering from *that* mental picture, thank you very much!
Maybe he thought he was burning Koreans?
Charleston and Savannah owe a large percentage of their historical rennovations to older gay men. You live there, have a great home, cultured lifestyle, then vacation some place wilder.
The former Mr. Tessie and I visited Charleston some years back. His comment was, "This is what happens when Republicans are allowed to run unchecked". I think I stayed married to him for an extra year or two sheerly for that statement.
Our four Fathers did not limit free speech while taking their daily Constitutional. Lindsey sees it OK to let Rush rant, Coulter caw, Malkin moo, and Hannity howl. The Florida reverend needs his own TV show to gain respectability on the right. Fox is working on it.
Awesome aliteration.
Actually, Jefferson wanted to ban free speech, the courts wouldn't let him.
"I wish we could find some way to hold people accountable." Gee, ironic much?
Downfister.
He's the man, the man with downwards touch. A thumbs-down touch.
Such a stink finger. Beckons you, to enter his mind of dim. But don't go
in.
Goldline words he will type on your site, but his lies can't disguise what
you fear. For a golden girl knows when he's downfisted her, it's the kiss of
death, from Mr. Downfister. Pretty girl, beware of his offer of gold.
This heart is cold.
This heart is cold.
He loves only gold.
Only gold.
He loves gold.
He loves only gold.
Only gold.
He loves gold.
I plan to put on a slinky gold lame' dress and sing this while lying on top of a piano.
video plz
Lindsay is the Commander in Chief of the Nancy Boy Hawk Club.
I could have happily gone all day without imagining what Lindsay Graham does in his closet.
Not to trivialize his mendacity, but Graham's only guilty of comparing apples to oranges. Yes, we limited free speech during World War II, but we could do that then because we'd officially declared war, and a declaration of war is a Really Big Thing in our system of government. We haven't declared war since 1941, which is why clamping down on freedom of expression right now is both illegal and almost certainly counterproductive.
relax. don't do it.
Well, I'm just glad *someone* spoke out in favor of appeasing howling Muslin crowds.
Rev. Crack has a right to free speech but nobody is requiring the media to report on it. You would think common sense would dictate that crazy people be ignored.
Hey, when you're already working hard towards getting rid of the Fourth, Fifth, Sixth and Eighth Amendments, what's one more in the grand scheme of things?
Lindsey Graham will personally drop a bomb, extraordinarily render and torture every Muslim he finds, but he doesn't want to hurt their feelings.
Because the burning of a Qur'an is the one, sole reason Muslims would have to hate us, rather than the burning of a Qur'an being a fitting metaphor for the entirety of our foreign and domestic policies for the past decade.
When is Sen. Graham (R-Fabulous) going to speak out against the remaining 99 % of the Republiklan voting public that call for the elimination or enslaving anyone that is Muslim?
Free speech is a great idea, but we’re in a war. During World War II, you had limits on what you could do if it inspired the enemy.
Maybe Graham should keep this in mind, and share it with the rest of the GOP.
In fairness, I am not sure about WWII, but in WWI there was at least one case of someone with nothing more than a German background being lynched.
spanky2b.
See, THIS is why sharia law forbids ham and the biscuits thereof.
In the name of First Amendment, we tolerate flag burning, burning in effigy, Koran burning, draft card burning (in the olde days). The basic problem is the burning. Perhaps Mr. Ham Biscuits would agree to outlaw fire instead of free speech.
Settle down, Beavis!
So many hard-ons in this current gubmint! If endless war fucked tax cuts, the ensuing mass orgasm would vaporize all the Republican gray matter in Washington.
A flashlight battery could vaporize all the republican gray matter in Washington.
I was just thinking the other day that I hadn't heard anything from the Republicans' favorite closet-case in a while. Now I know I didn't miss anything.
Actually, I read somewhere that the news reached Afghanistan because the "pastor" streamed it over teh interwebz and the media had been surprisingly scrupulous in their reporting. Is that true?
Alien and Sedition Acts II: Electric Boogaloo
Can we just burn Lindsey?
These people are college educated? When will they learn?
Indeed, it is. I was more picturing Comic Book Guy in his mom's basement, but I still think the innertoobs is a lot closer to the grass roots than a manuscript that someone else has to agree to publish or a broadcast that someone else has to agree to sponsor.
It sure is. “Publishing” is more small-d democratic than it ever has been before. But as soon as Big Commo realizes that, they’ll throttle it, and Bryn Mawr lit graduates will be once again be rejecting first novels that aren’t about the tribulations of preppies.
Great! Let's use the espionage act to jail some of these jerks advocating for people to not serve in Obama's military. Either they go to jail or the espionage act gets rescinded- either way, a win.
You know what I find particularly revolting about the koran burning incident? That some Afghani teabagger whipped this up. Notice, that in no other country was there a reaction to this on this scale. This tells you some local idiot cynically organized these "protests" knowing the possible outcome.
We know Terry is a dick; that's a given. But, whoever whipped up this frenzy on the ground in Afghanistan is just a disgusting a human being as the dear 'pastor.'
Religious fanaticism sucks and blows simultaneously.
Perhaps they should have said "create the enemy," as Pastor Jones would make any sensible Muslim want to blow up a Walmart, for Allah.
Of course, blowing up Walmarts is an intrinsic good, so there's that.
Yes, but we have to do it in a dingbat screech.
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