• May 27, 2012

Fox Exec Admitted He Didn’t Believe the ‘Obama Socialism’ He Was Pushing

by Jack Stuef  12:15 pm March 30, 2011

Those eyes! What a dark, dark chasm!Media Matters apparently does not get bored sitting around all day finding evidence of Fox News slanting their coverage, even though that story has been pretty much cracked by now. Still, this is somewhat new? They have audio of Fox managing editor Bill Sammon, on a cruise ship, of course, talking about the leading journalism teevee channel’s groundbreaking, round-the-clock coverage of Barack Obama’s nonexistent socialism, revealing a bit too much. “At that time, I have to admit, that I went on TV on Fox News and publicly engaged in what I guess was some rather mischievous speculation about whether Barack Obama really advocated socialism, a premise that privately I found rather far-fetched,” he said. Yeah, but don’t we all have to constantly breach our ethics in our job? Isn’t that what it means to work in America? This Simmons guy should just shut up and make himself believe the things that aren’t true. It makes things easier.

“CRUISE SHIP CONFESSION.” Lolz. What can you say? Media Matters people are also just putting in the effort to do what they’re supposed to do to get paid. Capitalism! Work! The copier needs toner!

Here’s a little taste of what Simmons had to do for his job (his job was lying to half the country):

On October 21, 2008, Sammon appeared on Greta Van Susteren’s show, where he referred to Bill Ayers “talking about being a Marxist.” Sammon then said, “I have read Barack Obama’s books pretty carefully, and he in his own words talks about being drawn to Marxists. … Now all this stuff’s coming out about whether he’s a socialist. I don’t know why anyone is surprised by it, because if you read his own words and his sort of, you know, orientation coming up as a liberal through college and as a young man, it’s not a huge shock.”

REALLY PHONING IT IN. C’mon, Sammon, look lively! It’s almost like you lost your soul or something. [Media Matters]

{ 115 comments }

Redhead March 30, 2011 at 12:19 pm

I'll bet he never believed Obama was a Facist or a Communist or a Nazi, either.

Why, he may have not even believed Obama was a *gasp* KENYAN. Or a Muslim.

jeezycreezy77 March 30, 2011 at 1:23 pm

If we learned anything from George Costanza, "It's not a lie, if you believe it."

chascates March 30, 2011 at 12:19 pm

An honest person at Fox?

nounverb911 March 30, 2011 at 12:25 pm

Honest Andrea, I thought you liked felafels.

CrankyLttlCamperette March 30, 2011 at 12:46 pm

Pink slip in 3…2…

WIDTAP March 30, 2011 at 1:10 pm

You are thinking he works for NPR, not Fox.

Fox calls this "Fair and Balanced".

Andrew Drinker March 30, 2011 at 1:38 pm

No no no, you don't get it.

When liberals say something that's actually completely true but makes real patriotic god-fearing conservative Murkins uncomfortable, THAT is when the pink slips are issued.

A conservative being caught with his pants down in an attempt to mislead the American public to further a political agenda, why, that man deserves a trophy!

Lascauxcaveman March 30, 2011 at 1:05 pm

Honestly? Almost none of them think Obama is so terrible. It's a job. A prostitute's number one job is to make sure he/she gets paid.

riverside68 March 30, 2011 at 1:42 pm

Honesty among themselves while getting paid to lie to the masses does not an honest person make.
"Hee hee, can you believe what I made those chumps think? They are voting against the government programs they live on and LOWERING OUR TAXES! Fucking comedy gold!"

horsedreamer_1 March 30, 2011 at 2:42 pm

'Cause — duh — WINNING.

Lionel[redacted]Esq March 30, 2011 at 1:49 pm

If honesty means admitting to fellow travelers that you lie whenever you can to make the other side look bad, sure.

At Fox, I think that is as good as we hope for.

Rotundo_ March 30, 2011 at 6:48 pm

Off the record-sure, on the air, not so much.

Sophist [غني عن ذلك] March 30, 2011 at 12:20 pm

Can't lose what you never had.

loulouroo March 30, 2011 at 12:20 pm

LOST? That would imply he ever had a soul. Not so sure about that. He has Mrs. Newt's vacant eyes.

nounverb911 March 30, 2011 at 12:21 pm

Which Mrs. Newt?

loulouroo March 30, 2011 at 12:33 pm
BerkeleyBear March 30, 2011 at 12:52 pm

All of them.

Schmannnity March 30, 2011 at 12:21 pm

Fox News: We peddle bullshit, you decide.

DaRooster March 30, 2011 at 12:37 pm

Fox News: We PIDDLE bullshit, you decide.

baconzgood March 30, 2011 at 12:21 pm

(GASP!!!!!) Faux Noose Lies????? My entire perception of reality is shattered. BUT THEY ARE "FAIR" and "BALENCED". "THEY" "REPORT" AND LET "(ME)" "DECIDE"!

TanzbodenKoenig March 30, 2011 at 12:21 pm

We report, you decide… what we've already decided for you!

baconzgood March 30, 2011 at 12:22 pm

The Lies go in lies go out! You can't explain it!

(and yes I know I used that one on the last post, so suck it)

BerkeleyBear March 30, 2011 at 12:52 pm

Never an (unintentional) miscommunication!

Callyson March 30, 2011 at 12:22 pm

“I have watched Bill Sammon's shows pretty carefully, and he in his own words talks about being drawn to Republicans. … Now all this stuff’s coming out about whether he’s a liar. I don’t know why anyone is surprised by it, because if you read his own words and his sort of, you know, orientation coming up as a conservative through college and as a young man, it’s not a huge shock.”

MittsHairHelmet March 30, 2011 at 12:23 pm

"don’t we all have to constantly breach our ethics in our job?"

Ethics are obsolete. Republicans understand this.

Swampgas_Man March 30, 2011 at 5:11 pm

Hey, I gave up ethics for the 2½ years I worked at Hell-Mart, and that was for a LOT less.

Sophist [غني عن ذلك] March 30, 2011 at 12:24 pm

…some rather mischievous speculation…

That adorable scamp, impishly undermining the notion that the press should try to be honest and factual! So mischievous!

anniegetyerfun March 30, 2011 at 4:49 pm

Dontcha just wanna give him a noogie? Such a card!

RedneckMuslin March 30, 2011 at 12:25 pm

What? Obama's not a socialist? Well, that's no fun.

DownFist Troll March 30, 2011 at 1:44 pm

Well, at least he's still a foreign born mooslamic atheist.

Troubledog March 30, 2011 at 12:25 pm

"Ethics are situational."
- the Jesuits

riverside68 March 30, 2011 at 1:46 pm

Fuck the Indians, no I mean literally fuck them, while in the church.
It's not a metaphor in the Pacific NW.

Badonkadonkette March 30, 2011 at 12:25 pm

Heavily, selectively, and misleadingly edited video surreptitiously recorded under false pretenses or GTFO.

weejee March 30, 2011 at 12:25 pm

Is this Sammon trying to swim upstream at Faux?

Nah, he's a carp like all the rest, and he'll be back with the socialist, Marxist, Leninist, Kenyan, where is the fucking birth certificate in 3, 2, 1…

BerkeleyBear March 30, 2011 at 12:54 pm

He went there already. In the very next part of the same speech, claiming the bailout of GM justified his prior mischief.

Don't ask me how giving a reach-around to capitalism proves you are a socialist. I don't have a chalk board that big.

SexySmurf March 30, 2011 at 12:25 pm

And this is why we need to defund NPR.

fuflans March 30, 2011 at 12:55 pm

my boy is pretty sure he heard some 'morning edition' reporter say 'teaBAGGER' this AM.

if he's right, you know there's going to be hell to pay. but it'd be worth it…

zhubajie March 30, 2011 at 9:28 pm

Go to BBC World Service, etc

Beowoof March 30, 2011 at 12:26 pm

Fox news pushes their agenda of acting like an asshole and telling the teabaggers and others it is okay to be an asshole. The surprising part is that one them actually feels bad about his behavior, the rest of them surely don't.

BerkeleyBear March 30, 2011 at 12:55 pm

Nope, he doesn't feel anything other than vindicated (ie the ratings are really good when they scare the oldz about the brown guy in the White House).

SorosBot March 30, 2011 at 12:57 pm

He doesn't really seem to feel bad at all in that quote; he admitted lying, but seems to think there's nothing wrong with it.

V572del c:/*.* y/n? March 30, 2011 at 12:26 pm

Hasn't he already reneged on that statement and announced that Barry is after all a socialist? Looks like a reneger to me.

prommie March 30, 2011 at 12:28 pm

This isn't so much an "admission" as it is "bragging."

MildMidwesterner March 30, 2011 at 12:28 pm

How many dildos and bottles of lube were on that cruise ship?

nounverb911 March 30, 2011 at 12:32 pm

All of them, Katie.

horsedreamer_1 March 30, 2011 at 2:44 pm

Wonder if they needed a T square to wedge 'em all in.

Not_So_Much March 30, 2011 at 12:28 pm

Best not to think about all the naked spankings he's going to have to take from over Roger Ailes' dimpled, greasy knees because of this.

prommie March 30, 2011 at 12:30 pm

In the end, this is nowhere near as important as whats coming up in 9 days, of course.

nounverb911 March 30, 2011 at 12:34 pm

The first Yankees-Red Sox series of the year?

RedneckMuslin March 30, 2011 at 12:34 pm

Lady Gaga performing at the Toyota Center?

Crank_Tango March 30, 2011 at 12:59 pm

Hitler?

prommie March 30, 2011 at 1:14 pm

Shhh. Keep it under your hat.

jus_wonderin March 30, 2011 at 1:26 pm

National Free Abortion Day? I always enjoy the parades and the picnic.

Lionel[redacted]Esq March 30, 2011 at 1:51 pm

Jesus?

GOPCrusher March 30, 2011 at 5:18 pm

Carrot Top?

baconzgood March 30, 2011 at 12:31 pm

Man-O-man. What a passive aggressive way of explaining it.

It wasn't a lie it was "mischievous speculation" and he didn't spout propaganda he "privately found (it) rather far-fetched".

Crank_Tango March 30, 2011 at 1:00 pm

I think I will go down to the store and "mischievously misappropriate" a new imac. Not steal.

OneDollarJuana March 30, 2011 at 2:13 pm

Bernie Madoff was just "mischievously speculating".

smokefilledroommate March 30, 2011 at 12:33 pm

…and then Sammon goes on to cite specific reasons like "massive transfers of wealth" and "sweeping regulation of the finance industry" which makes America's leaning toward socialism seem "all too real".

MarshallBanana March 30, 2011 at 1:45 pm

Oh yeah. Big time. I'm drowning in transferred wealth, right here. I've received so much transferred wealth I just don't know what to do with it.

SO MUCH.

freakishlywrong March 30, 2011 at 12:34 pm

You could play that tape, they could read(?) the story, hell, Fux could report it on it's own stupid shows and the mouth breathers that think that shit is news won't budge an inch, and still want their fucking country back.

elviouslyqueer March 30, 2011 at 12:35 pm

Shorter Sammon: I never actually believed all the shit I peddled, except for the stuff about Obama being a n***er.

Crank_Tango March 30, 2011 at 1:02 pm

and yet even on that point they don't want to give him "credit" for that–he's only half, you know. Doesn't even count. I am sure he could hail a cab in NYC or walk around a dallas mall with his pants hanging down and not get tasered, he's so white.

jus_wonderin March 30, 2011 at 1:55 pm

Hey, hey, I will speak for Dallas. We like to tase anything slightly darker than beige. We have a fan chart in our other holster.

Blendergoathead March 30, 2011 at 12:38 pm

Hopefully he admitted it only because he has terminal ass cancer and will die soon, so we can spraypaint his confession on his tombstone (or with urine, either works).

IOW, fuck him.

WilliamHTaft March 30, 2011 at 12:38 pm

But what about that story about B Hussein Obama turning all our sacred Burlington Coat Factories into mosks? Surely that was true.

JustPixelz March 30, 2011 at 12:40 pm

It's like the time I mischievously suggested Sarah Palin™ was called barracuda because of her insatiable sexual appetite. Or the time I mischievously suggested George W. Bush is stupid.

V572del c:/*.* y/n? March 30, 2011 at 12:44 pm

License to rage?

ALIVE! March 30, 2011 at 1:31 pm

Long-term rentboy?

PeaceWithHonor March 30, 2011 at 12:45 pm

In other news: Satan is Evil

Hatrabbit March 30, 2011 at 12:45 pm

"Mommy, what happens to my body when my soul leaves?"

"It becomes a Fox News Exec, honey."

" … Hold me, Mommy."

DashboardBuddha March 30, 2011 at 1:20 pm

Mommy…can't I just go to hell?

SayItWithWookies March 30, 2011 at 12:46 pm

So which one of our brave Democratic senators is going to step up now and conduct an investigation into FOX News' propagation of ignorance and evil? Anyone? Hello? Maybe someone feels slightly guilty about voting to defund ACORN based on heavily-edited videos and without so much as a hearing or waiting for the results of an investigation and would like to do a good turn to compensate? Still waiting here…

Oblios_Cap March 30, 2011 at 12:47 pm

If they are using Socialist to mean "a corporate hack who generally ends up supporting GOP policies", well then, yes, Obama is a raging Socialist.

chicken_thief March 30, 2011 at 12:47 pm

"cruise ship"? Or the James O'Queef dildo laden party boat?

poncho_pilot March 30, 2011 at 1:00 pm

cruising ship.

prommie March 30, 2011 at 12:53 pm

On the other hand, it was pure gospel truth when Fox reported that the Kenyan usurper who stole the election with fraudulent Acorn votes and using black panthers to intimidate whites at the polls is an anti-colonialist who plans to give Amurrica back to the savage redskin indians, and kill your parents with roving death-panel squads.

freakishlywrong March 30, 2011 at 1:26 pm

I laughed when I first read that. Then I thought, "Holy fuck!"

jus_wonderin March 30, 2011 at 1:33 pm

"and kill your parents with roving death-panel squads."

I hear they plan to use Amtrak.

GOPCrusher March 30, 2011 at 5:21 pm

And broadcast the carnage on PBS.

Slim_Pickins March 30, 2011 at 12:53 pm

Lincoln characterized the Fox News viewers as "Some of the people."

Ducksworthy March 30, 2011 at 12:53 pm

Name calling evidently has a profound effect on our Barry. Look what you made him do, you meanies.

Ducksworthy March 30, 2011 at 12:56 pm

Name calling has a profound effect on our boy Barry. Look what you made him do you FUX meanies. And who knew the country was so susceptible to lies repeated over and over very loud.

nicnack74 March 30, 2011 at 12:59 pm

Media Matters does what James O’Keefe wishes he could do with more credibility. But seriously, how is this guy still employeed? Isn’t this a breach of professional ethics? Or if you just work at Fox, the slogan is “Fuck it, everyone knows we’re partisan hackery anyway”?

Ducksworthy March 30, 2011 at 1:00 pm

But is Roger Ailes the reincarnation of Joe Goebbels?

DashboardBuddha March 30, 2011 at 1:17 pm

Inside every fat network owner is a skinny nazi propagandist trying to get out.

horsedreamer_1 March 30, 2011 at 2:45 pm

Is that why James Earl Jones did the station id for CNN?

poncho_pilot March 30, 2011 at 1:09 pm

whatever. when you give in because it's easier to let someone fuck you over then to fight them–that's one thing. but it's too much to take when the person who has fucked you over wants you to like them afterwards or like them for how they fucked you over.

The_Great_Gazoo March 30, 2011 at 1:17 pm

When I publicly engage in some rather mischievous speculation about Bill Sammon, I do not find the premise that he is a douchebag to be in any way far-fetched.

weejee March 30, 2011 at 1:21 pm

Jack, regards yer alt text, he does kinda look like Gollum in a coat and tie.

Andrew Drinker March 30, 2011 at 1:51 pm

I swear I killed something that looked like him in World of Warcraft last night.

JoshuaNorton March 30, 2011 at 1:21 pm

Someone should do a study about what second language Fox talking heads actually speak. Their definitions of the words they use can't be found in any english dictionary.

On top of that, they then combine words randomly to make something sound bad. Obama is a "Marxist Nazi". The fact that nothing like that could ever exist doesn't stop their teatard cheerleaders from repeating (and misspelling) it all every chance they get.

JoshuaNorton March 30, 2011 at 1:25 pm

mischievous speculation – agitprop.

Potato – potahto.

BornInATrailer March 30, 2011 at 1:51 pm

Let's call the whole thing off..

(please)

genxr March 30, 2011 at 1:26 pm

That guy is a socialist.

proudgrampa March 30, 2011 at 1:27 pm

Every time I read another one of these FUX items, I just don't know whether to be sad or angry. So i just make myself another Sapphire martini.

"I'll have a drink. Then I'll decide."

Zombie_Reagan March 30, 2011 at 1:27 pm

Faux News intentionally lies to further an obvious right-wing agenda?

In other news, water is wet.

Gopherit March 30, 2011 at 1:33 pm

Yawn. Call me when they admit they are a wing of the RNC. Even then, that will only rate a golf clap.

bflrtsplk March 30, 2011 at 1:42 pm

If you can't believe that Faux News believes what they want you to believe, well, then… oh I give up.

Moonbatting Average March 30, 2011 at 1:49 pm

That cruise needed more Somali pirates

metamarcisf March 30, 2011 at 1:52 pm

Headline of the day: "Bryan Fischer: What Part of 'Killer Whale' Does Sea World Not Understand?"

Negropolis March 31, 2011 at 1:55 am

Tell me you're joking.

Lionel[redacted]Esq March 30, 2011 at 1:55 pm

Great. Just great. What other part of my world view do you need to shit on today, Wonkette. Are you going to tell me that Obama is not the secret clone of Malcolm X, raised in Kenya by the Red Chinese to bring Unionism to the United States.

I just don't know what to believe any more. <sob>.

Negropolis March 31, 2011 at 2:00 am

That's the beauty of Obama. As he said, himself, in his books, he's a blank slate. And, he'll do nothing to correct your perception of him. You don't have to choose, man. He can be your Negro Jesus or your Indo-Malay-Kenyan Auntie-Christ.

KeepFnThatChicken March 30, 2011 at 2:02 pm

People with Judeo-Christian values watch their programs.

hagajim March 30, 2011 at 2:07 pm

Sammon swimming upstream in his Santorum! Actually all of these fucks at Fox don't believe half the shit they spew, they just know it pays well so they spew it.

MinAgain March 30, 2011 at 2:14 pm

He didn't lose his soul; he sold it. And for a profit, I would imagine.

fredbell March 30, 2011 at 2:20 pm

This reflects poorly on Fox News…They will lose credibility because of this…

littlebigdaddy March 30, 2011 at 2:37 pm

Cold, dead eyes of a killer, as always.

emmelemm March 30, 2011 at 3:18 pm

Me too.

GOPCrusher March 30, 2011 at 5:24 pm

And yet, some lonely Wingnut will post a comment on some message board tonight about how only Faux Noise viewers know the Real Truth, and everyone else are sheeple.

ttommyunger March 30, 2011 at 9:33 pm

I'm giving this shmuck a pass because he has a seriously ill child and he probably really needs his job, big-time. There but for the grace of God, go I.

Negropolis March 31, 2011 at 2:03 am

If he has a seriously ill child, you'd think he'd have taken the time to review his life and be the best example he could for said child. If anything, knowing his situation makes me even less symapthetic of him. If this man has the mercy of God Almighty, he certainly doesn't need any of mine…

ttommyunger March 31, 2011 at 8:53 am

I have the mercy of God, I have three healthy children and grandchildren. I said nothing of his relationship with an Almighty. His child suffers from a congenital condition. Sammon is a prick and a lying asshole and I wouldn't piss on him if he were on fire; I'm only saying a part of me can understand that he may be under pressures that I've been spared and I can almost understand why he would jump through certain hoops to meet the needs of his family. I have a soft spot in my heart for the parents of special need children. Palin is an exception because the cunt actually uses her retarded child in photo ops and as a selling point for her particular brand of snake oil.

Negropolis March 31, 2011 at 1:46 am

Someone get this guy an eye wrangler, stat! One of those puppies is trying to escape the native habitat that is that man's face.

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