Minnesota’s Republican lawmakers are, as expected, very angry about poor people. Why give those poor people money when we know they’ll just spend it on the hip-hop and fancy sneakers and for crack smokin’. So, the Republicans had an idea: Until any kind of welfare or assistance to the needy is completely outlawed, which will be soon enough, Minnesota should make it illegal for people getting “emergency cash assistance” to have any of the cash assistance in cash.

So, the poorest families and the poorest disabled adults would be unable to take any of this money as cash, even though poor people by design are kept from having bank accounts or a checkbook, which is why they usually pay bills and rent in cash:

St. Paul, MN – Minnesota Republicans are pushing legislation that would make it a crime for people on public assistance to have more $20 in cash in their pockets any given month. This represents a change from their initial proposal, which banned them from having any money at all.

On March 15, Angel Buechner of the Welfare Rights Committee testified in front of the House Health and Human Services Reform Committee on House File 171. Buechner told committee members, “We would like to address the provision that makes it illegal for MFIP [one of Minnesota’s welfare programs] families to withdraw cash from the cash portion of the MFIP grant – and in fact, appears to make it illegal for MFIP families to have any type of money at all in their pockets. How do you expect people to take care of business like paying bills such as lights, gas, water, trash and phone?”

House File 171 would make it so that families on MFIP – and disabled single adults on General Assistance and Minnesota Supplemental Aid – could not have their cash grants in cash or put into a checking account. Rather, they could only use a state-issued debit card at special terminals in certain businesses that are set up to accept the card.

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  • demz_taters

    They can always pay in chickens.

  • a/k/a 'MN Dignity Repeal Act'

    • SorosBot

      And that's part of the intent; I've seen sever conservative op-ed's lamenting the fact that you can't always tell people on public assistance because of things like cards replacing food stamps, and that they're not degraded enough.

      • HistoriCat

        They should be forced to wear some sort of patch or symbol on their clothes so that everyone will know their status.

        • Tommmcatt

          If we round them up and all make them live in one neighborhood they would save on bus fare…

          • Doktor Avalanche

            Bus fare? Make them ride in train stock cars like the animals they are.

            /really, I feel bad typing that

        • Better yet, let's outlaw clothing for po' folk:
          1) they'd be easy to spot
          2) easier for cops to see if they're packing more than twenty
          3) more naked people on the street

          It's win/win/win

      • Yah we don't want those people using cards like us upstanding citizens who can't pay our fucking bills.Neve rmind that the SNAP card reduces paperwork and manpower to process assistance payments. I get so pissed at people acting jealous of the poor. I notice they're not jumping into line to switch places.

    • GOPCrusher

      First they will put them out to live on the streets, and then make it illegal to live on the streets.

      • emmelemm

        Next step, round 'em up, put them in some sort of… camp?

      • PuckStopsHere

        I think we've already done both of those things. The living in the streets and the making the living in the streets illegal thing, that is.

  • Chickenshit rule from chickenshit people.

  • emmelemm

    Talk about the straw that broke the camel's back…

    After everything we've heard this week, trying to keep it together, you're going to make me cry on a Friday afternoon? Not cool, man, not cool.

  • OC_KI_Surf_Serf

    Instead of behind billboards, cops will be now sitting outside pawn shops to make their monthly quotas…

  • BeWoot

    Maybe the poor in Minnesota can spare-change beleaguered middle-class passers-by for bus fare to the state capitol so they can go kick the shit out of those sorry bastards in the legislature.

    • Lost_Teabaggers

      The GOP is wasting NO TIME making friends of their constituents, aren't they? I've said it before and I'll say it again…you vote GOP if you're rich because you're a gluttonous, selfish asswipe. You vote GOP if you're poor because you're emotionally a sadal-masochist, oh and you're dumb and not self aware if you're a wingnut and disagree with that assessment.

  • chascates

    I can't come up with anything snarky; this is just disgusting. Debtors' prisons next?

    • BeWoot

      No, no, not that. Prisoners get food and a place to sleep. That's just mandatory socialism.

      • finallyhappy

        exactly- I am involved in assistance for the people with mental disabilities and prisoners do seem better off- food, medical care, classes, a place to sleep.

        • BeWoot

          Well, I am fast approaching my 99 weeks on the bread line. Maybe I should knock over a liquor store. (Downside: It's my wife who needs the health care, and she's too moral to join me in a life of crime.)

          • chascates

            I'm a 99-er. I was able to get a free 3-month supply of my statin drug from the manufacturer (which I couldn't afford since it was $125 a month without insurance). But even paying for a doctor's visit is hard. I came down with bronchitis a couple of months ago. Finally went, paid over $150 for the exam and got the meds for about $15. It came back after about a month and now they want another visit in case it's something else. I've told them I'd rather run that risk and pay just another $15 for the Rx rather than $150 for a 'look'.

          • ChessieNefercat

            Things like this make me realize once again (!) how breathtakingly evil our for-profit based health insurance (not health care!) system is.

            Human life is a consumer commodity. Evil, just evil.
            I do hope whatever you have goes away for good.

          • BeWoot

            Yeah. I used to wonder why, when I saw people living on the streets wiping sputum off their chins with a dirty rag. Now I realize it's a side effect of American Exceptionalism. And deliberate public policy.

    • SorosBot

      Privatized debtor's prisons that, like regular prisons, use the prisoners for unpaid labor; it's a good way to get around the 13th Amendment.

    • nounverb911

      I know I'm repeating myself, but: Jail is the new social security.

    • fuflans

      workhouses worked well cleaning up 18th c london too.

    • the_problem_child

      What do you mean, next? Already available.

      • Beowoof

        1850's England is the goal and we are on our way back.

      • Dudleydidwrong

        These people have traded humanity for greed and vindictiveness. I'll bet that the Pat Robertsons and Jerry Fowlballs of the nation would support this return to Dickensian life. Take away their cash and cement the poor to the banking system that knows nothing but greed, and then throw them into the pokie when they can't satisfy the greedy.

        I hope that the people who regurgitate these miserable ideas into law someday have to eat their own vomit.

    • Were you paying attention to Crazy Carl Paladino's campaign, because that is exactly what he was talking about.

      • Jukesgrrl

        It's been the law in Arizona as long as I've been on unemployment. You have to be prepared to show photo ID at any place where you want to use your state-issued debit card. And, believe me, many clerks in stores hold up the line and ask for it just to draw attention to the fact you aren't using "credit," which for all they know a customer might be reneging on. I find that especially ironic since I believe I EARNED my unemployment compensation by paying into that insurance system for more than 40 years.

    • zhubajie

      Debt-slavery not far behind.

  • Barbara_i

    Someone was blathering on the other day about how welfare recipients cash their checks at strip clubs and at casinos and that they should be drug tested. The government should just have people line up to receive imitation gruel and make the people bring their own container.

    • finallyhappy

      I think Repukes should be drug tested since they are obviously fucked out of ther minds

    • ChessieNefercat

      Maybe they should find whatever few survivors of WWII Pacific POW camps are still alive and ask them for tips on how to get the maximum work with minimal food out of those poverty-stricken layabouts who use economic conditions as an excuse to live the high life on unemployment or food stamps.

      • We almost had one of those POWs as our Preznit…you can learn a lot about extraction in FIVE AND A HALF YEARS.

    • I'm all for it as soon as every government contractor pisses in the cup. I'm looking at you Haliburton.

    • V5¹6℠56³94

      "Well, your Honor, I was on my usual patrol and noticed the defendant because he was driving an older vehicle with one tail light out, and that gave me probable cause to think he might be a welfare recipient with more than $20 in cash. I pulled him over asked him to step out of the car. When I didn't find anything in his pockets I also observed a hippie-type individual, a woman, in the car and asked her to step out of the vehicle as well. She refused to let me pat her down to see whether the perp had handed her the cash, so I called for female-type officer to conduct the search. At this point the situation began to deteriorate and in order to protect myself I had to use my service revolver to deliver a number of rounds to both suspects."

  • Mumbletypeg

    This never would've gone down on Dollar Bill's watch.

  • Boredw/Gravitas

    Why not just line up the poors and shoot 'em? Make them sign a voucher for the cost of the bullets first, though.

    • nounverb911

      How Chinese! The Chinese used (still do?) to make the family of the executionee pay for the bullet.

      • Beowoof

        I was thinking the same thing, I remember reading about that after the Tienmen Square, the folks they executed families were billed 8cents for the bullet. That is the republican way and why they like to send jobs to China. Get out of line and they will have you taken care of and no it costs them nothing to do.

        • Jukesgrrl

          Not too much space between that and Sister Sarah making rape "accusers" (to use the proper Georgia term) pay for their own rape kits.

    • PaintedTrollop

      Somebody's gotta wash cars and clean toilets for the richs.

    • zhubajie

      Aren't the soldiers mostly recruited from poor people?

      • Jukesgrrl

        Where, China or the U.S.? Or was that the joke? When I do online job searches for Tucson, the most common reply to my search is that I should join a branch of the service. Just as a joke to myself, one day I followed the prompts to request information. After reviewing my information, they recommended I join the Navy and specialize in communications. When I said, OK, sign me up, that's when they really checked me out and replied, "Oops, sorry, you're too old." Well, hey, dudes, it was YOUR idea.

  • wat?

    • XOhioan

      Oh just because of yr pretty blond hairs, you type "wat?" and get 9 upfists.

      • Yeah, but I put out too.

      • V5¹6℠56³94

        Brvty = soul/wit

  • When they outlaw money, only outlaws will have money. Oh, wait…it's time for Koch.

  • Steverino247

    While I have no doubt that there are people who misuse government aid, the cost to investigate everyone who receives aid is prohibitive. What this bill would allow is the routine stopping of persons suspected by the police of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Vagrancy laws went away, or did they?

    • Beowoof

      A new pretext for stopping black people.

    • zhubajie

      No they didn't. They're just waiting to be enforced against you once more.

  • PsycWench

    So this makes the perfect gig for ethically challenged police "Give me all of your money or I'll arrest you; well, you can keep $20 of it".

    • ChessieNefercat

      I believe that would be a compassionate police officer with a real empathy for the poors. After all letting them keep more than $20 could get that poor person in trouble!

    • billy_reuben

      Who said anything about letting them keep the $20? That's the processing fee for not pressing charges!

  • PublicLuxury

    It is so refreshing to so how the compassionate conservative goes out of their way to aid the poor and disabled. The poors CAUSED the economical crash and need to be taught a lesson. Their betters know that giving them any money is like throwing it in the trash. Poor people are trash so they should eat trash and live in trash cans.

    • fishskicanoe

      Compassionate Conservatism is soooo 2000ish. Here in the second decade of the 21st century we are in the era of Muscular Conservatism (Muscular Jesus, Muscular Repub Governors, Muscular Candid Camera from O'Keefe). I'm sure the GOP or the Koch Bros got a focus group put together to figure out what made the middle of the roaders all wet. And that was the tough guy, the straight shooter, the anti-molly coddler. So we get the El Duce imitations of Christie, Walker and Cantor. F*&^ the poor. F&^% the workers. Kill! Kill! Blood and gore and guts and veins in my teeth. Kill! Kill! ( ©Alice's Restaurant 1967).

    • Beowoof

      These bastards want rent on their dumpsters.

      • PublicLuxury

        If they don't collect rent on the dumpsters how will the rich be able to support all the undocumented aliens they're hiring has house slaves, uhhh ummm oopps servants?

    • computrpro

      The GOP compassionate to the poor and disabled? They are more compassionate to the discriminating insurance companies, environment destroying oil companies, and greedy wall street banks.

  • XOhioan

    And if a police officer finds more than $20 dollars in a poor person's pocket, they can keep it, right? We are officially a third-world country, yay!

    • nounverb911

      Or at least a third world state.

    • GOPCrusher

      On November 2nd, 2010 we officially became Somalia. We just have better roads and indoor plumbing.

      • Mahousu

        We just have better roads …

        Don't jump to conclusions, now. There was that bridge collapse in the Minneapolis area a couple of years ago, after all.

      • Beowoof

        Don't worry Rachel Maddow reported that some states are tearing up roads so they won't have to plow and pave them anymore, so we are going back in time.

      • zhubajie

        Probably not for long.

  • SexySmurf

    they could only use a state-issued debit card

    Now the big banks have found a way to get in on the action, too.

    • Jim89048

      That's how it's done in Nevada, too. Fear not, those small businessman mini-mart owners will accept the card for your Four Loko and cigs fix, but at that 50% exchange rate I mentioned.

      • Tundra Grifter

        Like the liquor stores in San Francisco that used to take "welfare" checks and bank the folks who received them?

        By the way, these same stores used to sell cigarettes one at a time…

        • Jim89048

          Hah–back in the day, I used to patronize a drive-up liquor store in the Bayview District. Lowest price on Champale and Camels anywhere!

  • undeterredbyreality

    What's the big deal? $20 will still buy a bottle of MD 20/20 won't it?

    • Beetagger

      I was thinkin' malt liquor, but yeah.

      • Beowoof

        Ah a forty and a fatty, eases the pain of living in modern America.

    • Bout six of them.

  • Pragmatist2

    It's for their own good.

    • Beowoof

      Yeah wouldn't want them to have any money to buy soap or go the laudromat.

  • This story makes me wonder if I could get Japanese citizenship by offering to work at the reactor for a few weeks.

    • Bonzos_Bed_Time

      Bring your own hose.

    • PublicLuxury

      If you worked there your dick would get really, really big.

  • b[redact]opple

    I think it's impressive the way Ken is able to churn these out while simultaneously stalking Josh Fruhlinger in the Awl comments all day.

    Uh, I guess I should be working or something.

    • Typing at 105wpm does have its benefits.

      • ChessieNefercat

        Really? 105 wpm? I never learned to type in high school because I was college track, and the only people who took typing were female "vocies" who would go on to genteel, albeit lowly, office jobs. Male vocies took shop or auto. And, "don't learn to type because then you'll always be considered just a secretary."

        Now the little tykes in school all take non-gender-specific "keyboarding. So I have repeatedly tried Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing, but no matter what, sooner or later she sighs and instead of letting me move up to intermediate she suggests that I would probably like starting over. She's mean.

        And why are all the keyboards black with little white letters? Well, I guess because I'm the only old(-ish) who needs to actually look at the keyboard while typing. Pfft. Maybe I'll ask Mavis nicely to let me take another lesson.

        Ken, you're an inspiration.

        Home keys!: aaaa ssss dddd ffff jjjj kkkk llll ;;;;

      • BaldarTFlagass

        I have found in adulthood that Typing was the most useful course I took in high school. Although I don't type at Ken's Flying Fingers of Death rate of 105 wpm, I can get a respectable 80 or 90 wpm. It's fun to go around the office and see these guys and gals with a PhD or two looking at their keyboard and madly pecking away with two index fingers at a dizzying 20-25 wpm. Unfortunately, my father was transferred before the school year was over and I wasn't around and still have to look down to do the top row of numerals/symbols.

        • Dudleydidwrong

          Second that, Flagass. I've said a gazillion times that the most useful course I took in HS was typing. Yeah, I was college track and had to take an extra course to make up for the typing teacher, but Ms Marquez was cute and I can still peck away at about 90 wpm even with arthritic fingers. If they ever get away from the qwerty keyboard, however, I'm fucked.

  • Asa_Hawks

    This is fucking disgusting, even for them. What vile people.

  • PublicLuxury

    Jeebus would NEVER help these people. Jeebus would have shunned these poor and disabled. The dredges of humanity get no help from their betters. Eat shit and die. The new republican campaign strategy.

    • Pithaughn

      Indeed, old rule The Strong Protect the Weak. New rule, Strong take everything from weak.
      This is not how civilization is done R's.

      • ChessieNefercat

        Depends on the civilization, I guess. Huns, visigoths, aztecs, reavers, maybe. Yeah, reavers.

    • SayItWithWookies

      "It is easier to trot a camel through the eye of a needle than for a poor man to be featured on Cribs."

    • Manly Jeebus can't go around looking like a pussy by helping out poors.

    • Negropolis


  • Barbara_i

    New rule:
    When someone comes up with a dumb shit idea like this they should have to show by example and live it for an entire year before they are allowed to bring it for a vote.

    Imagine if the politicians had to go to functions that only served the food that a family who survives on food stamps would be able to afford. No Wagu beef and no Gray Goose martinis. Just dip your finger in the generic cocktail sauce, aka ketchup and imagine that it's a tiger shrimp, dickweed.

    • tessiee

      "Just dip your finger in the generic cocktail sauce, aka ketchup and imagine that it's a tiger shrimp, dickweed. "

      [Ralph Wiggum voice]: My shrimp tastes owie!

      • Jim89048

        Heh. Should've peeled it first.

    • Imagine if Politicians had to go to functions that only served the food that a family who survives on foo stamps would be able to afford had to sleep under the bridge for a couple of weeks.

      • BarryOPotter

        …under the bridge for a couple of weeks

        and defend themselves nightly from the beat-downs they so fucking have coming to them.

      • Beowoof

        And hopefully it would collapse on them.

        • ChessieNefercat

          "And hopefully it (the bridge) would collapse on them. "

          Just as they finished off the last can of beans bought with the last remaining dollar of the campaign contribution from the low-bid bridge construction contractor.

  • qwerty42

    More Progress for the Freedom Agenda®!!! We will soon, very soon, be in a wingnut utopia … or as some call it: Mississippi. (but, sadly, the Republicans in Mississippi have not proposed anything like this. Why do they hate America?)

  • cheetojeebus

    fuckers being fuckers.

    • Doktor Avalanche

      3 words, 2 repeats, the party in a nutshell.

    • emmelemm

      Fish gotta swim, birds gotta fly…

  • SorosBot

    There's that small government again!

  • undeterredbyreality

    (Troll alert)

    • Tommmcatt

      Fuck him, such a loser he won't even leave a comment. He knows our information and ideas are correct and superior, so he won't join in, as conservatism is easily proven to be backward, hypocritical, and destructive to the economy.

      I look at each downfist he and his obvious sockpuppet make as an admission of failure. Bring it on, teabag bitch-boy!

      • Doktor Avalanche

        What can you do, he likes all forms of Koch.

      • BaldarTFlagass

        There was a flurry of visits from the righties back around the 2010 elections; a couple of them were almost lucid and even knew how use spellcheck, even though their thought processes were so wrongheaded. I think they learned their lesson then that there's no point in putting their oar in the water here, since they repeatedly got their asses handed to them by the denizens of this site. Hence the drive-by downfistings, their only safe method of response to the snark.

  • widestanceroman

    "But, GOP, yo ugly country mama tol me to take $50 for slappin' her some meat, so what I spose do? Choke da bitch fo free?"

    Rough as it is to see this stuff, it can't be seen enough. The folks who whine about getting government off their backs can't keep their hands out of our pockets, uteruses (uteri?), bedrooms, etc. and need to have this shit exposed for what it is.

    • GOPCrusher

      I think anyone that questions the existence of God should look at the fact that these fuckers do not get struck by lightning as proof that God does not exist.

  • nounverb911

    Shouldn't Walker's salary be considered "public assistance" since he is paid by the public?

    • Barbara_i

      He's also supported in private with Koch rewards, *wink* so it should be a double dipping salary.

      • nounverb911

        Tax audit time! Oh wait, they are all busy auditing mothers.

    • MegPasadena

      He should be happy he doesn't live in Minnesota.

    • computrpro

      AMEN to that.

  • Jerri

    Un.Fucking.Real. Let's make being poor an even more difficult, degrading pain in the ass. Brilliant.

    You know, I'm a person who is this close to needing assistance, and also this close to actually qualifying for it. (Don't quite make enough to have anything left over after the bills, but make too much to get any kind of aid. And hey, I'm lucky in that I can pay my bills, provided no surprises like car trouble or doctor office visits pop up). It's not easy. But at least I don't have "Small Government" Conservative Nannies stepping on my neck every time I need to go buy some fucking milk.

    I hope there is an afterlife, and I hope their Jesus exists, solely so he can kick them in the square in balls and straight into a fiery hell-pit.

    • ChessieNefercat

      For a brief period in my life while going through a divorce with three kids to feed, I qualified for public assistance. When talk of mandatory drug testing came up, I found the idea deeply degrading. I had never (still haven't) even tried marijuana, and was completely crime-free, the world's dullest goody two shoes.

      But falling on hard times was a legitimate reason to conclude that if I was poor, I was probably a drug addict, too, just itching to get my hands on that sweet government money?

      I would have gotten by financially except, you see, my alcoholic ex violated the court order to pay child support. No one suggested drug testing him.

      And by the way? I was working at the time.
      And I'm not a goody two shoes any more. I swear and drink wine out of a box. Well, I pour it into a glass first, I don't just poke a hole in the top and stick a straw in it (mommy's special juice box).

      • PuckStopsHere

        I could not recommend Marijuana more highly.

  • Weenus299

    That's so fucking illegal. That's all I can say.

    • jqheywood

      Ah, but the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.

    • emmelemm

      And when a judge rules it so, cue the 'baggers screaming "Activist judge! Surveyors' mark!"

  • MittsHairHelmet

    I always thought Republicans like Delay and Rove had a lot of balls. Those guys pulled off some crazy shit.

    They're pussies compared to the 2011 GOP.

  • Here in Minnesota both houses went to Republicans this last election (can you tell?) fortunately the Governorship went to a Democrat who will veto this crap.

    • Bonzos_Bed_Time

      You willing to put money, er I mean a debit card on that prediction?

  • Pithaughn

    Man, I'd like to have me one of them special terminals in certain businesses right now!

  • Walkinwiddaking

    Mighty Third Reich'ish of them.

  • EdFlintstone

    So are cash birthday or Xmas gifts over 20 dollars to welfare recipients illegal in Minnesota? Well Timmy I would like to give you more but its against the law.

    • ChessieNefercat

      That's right, you don't want to send little Timmy down the road to a life of boozing or gambling, do you? That's what happens to ALL POOR PEOPLE if they are allowed to EVER have any cash in their pockets, you see.

      Proof? Well, rich people never drink or gamble or do drugs, do they? So there.

      Suck it, little Timmy. And Timmy? If a Republican ever says that to you, they mean it literally. Run!

  • Extempor肛門

    I guess the change in their pocket was enough…

  • Sue4466

    So, muggers can claim they're "House File 171 compliance officers." Neat.

  • MistaEko

    I liked them more when they were just trying to make people starve to death.

  • fuflans

    yes but will that $20 be audited when it helps to pay for your rape abortion?

  • SayItWithWookies

    Who are these fucking ogres and which sadistic fuckhead dragged their revivified corpses out of the 1890s to inflict their hateful fucking worldview on hardworking Americans? Really, these odious, pernicious, small-minded, holier-than-thou, classist, sadists need to drag their bilious Scroogian economics back to the fucking salt mines where they belong.

    • finallyhappy

      Amen, brother!(in a totally non religious manner)

  • Extempor肛門

    "Hey brother, can you spare a crime?"

  • mumbly_[redacted]

    Err, so someone should probably point out to them that if any conservative actually meant any of their complaints about the "nanny state", this would actually be a pretty profound example of precisely that. Instead, what we're actually getting is a ringing confirmation that being a Republican is absolutely and completely about fucking the poor.

    • SorosBot

      Now, now; they're also about fucking out gays, women (not literally), racial minorities, and non-Christians.

      • neiltheblaze

        True. They are egalitarian in their myriad hatreds.

    • Jim89048

      And making those of us not yet poor, poor, so they can fuck us, too.

    • MegPasadena

      No no no, this is not nanny state. This is the police state.

    • Jukesgrrl

      And they not only feel justified doing it, they are downright gleeful about it.

  • karen

    A couple years ago here in Ohio the government implemented a debit card for child support payments. Mom opted out because she wanted the checks, but they still opted her in and sent a card. It's shitty, it doesn't allow it to be used right at the gas pump, and withdrawing cash is limited per month. The deadbeat did have a crap job washing houses or something, which made regular but small payments, but then he started running drugs and working under the table so no more payments. And apparently, there's nothing the state can do about it.

    Poors, single moms/dads, minorities, the disabled, the mentally ill, homeless, homeless veterans, you can all line up along the road for your curb stomp courtesy the GOP.

    • Barbara_i

      That's heartbreaking. Your mom is a hero and should be treated better.

      • Now Barb she's not a hero unless she served our country then we can honor her by buying a plastic flag decal and telling her to fuck off and die… real heroes don't need any help.

  • Okay, but how many chickens are they allowed to have at one time for bartering purposes?

  • BlueStateLibel

    And how come there's no law that bailed-out bankers and Wall St. assholes can't be walking around with $20 in their pockets?

    • DaRooster

      There is… they are not allowed to be bankers if they have ONLY $20 in their pocket.

    • SayItWithWookies

      They can have as much money as they want in their pockets — as long as it's not their own.

      • ChessieNefercat

        And as far as I am concerned, it never is.

  • jqheywood

    That photo…must scrub mind….

  • Guppy06

    "Rather, they could only use a state-issued debit card"

    How much will Visa and/or MasterCard skim off the top?

    • ChessieNefercat

      Ooh, lots. And I believe they charge you to call and find out what your remaining balance is.

  • DaRooster

    I'm have a feeling that soon, somewhere, some group of people might start to rise up. And not in a nice "Let's hold signs and be peaceable" kind of way…
    At some point its just a tad much… me thinks.


    • Bluestatelibel

      You wonder sometimes if the Repubs are really commies in disguise and want to just push the whole thing off the edge..

    • Negropolis

      You know, I would like to see Minnesota buy in on the whole Great Lakes protest thing

  • KeepFnThatChicken

    Wow. The "Sleeping-In-Straw-Man" fallacy.

    Tell me, since Hobo Soup costs $20 per can nowadays, will they be denied for walking into the office carrying a can as their only possession?

    • Mahousu

      No, they're allowed one can; they just have to finish it before they can get a second.

  • tessiee

    First Wisconsin, then Michigan, now Minnesota… I'm beginning to wish the South would rise again.

    • neiltheblaze

      I think all of this is proof that the South is actually in charge.

  • CalamityJames

    So, this is going to produce jobs how?

    • ChessieNefercat

      Try to keep up, we're on the next page. Jobs are so yesterday.

  • joobajooba

    St. Peter don't call me cause I can't go. / I owe my soul to the company store.

  • Radio 仕事のための安全ではない

    Per the DK's:

    Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill the poor.
    Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill the poor
    Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill the poor.
    Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill the poor, tonight

  • 4joey

    What a bunch of greasy toe rag rat bastards. Who the hell do they think they are? Who the hell do they think they are talking about? These are American citizens who are probably on assistance because of some greedy scumbag asshole republican in the first place. I'm all for the Red Queen. OFF WITH THEIR HEADS.

  • DashboardBuddha

    Jesus fucking weeping Christ.

  • finallyhappy

    And there are plenty of stores where poor people have to shop(because supermarkets don't want to open in those places) where only cash is taken(heck, there are those stores in my neighborhood for less than a certain amount). So is there some kind of natural disaster that could befall the Minnesota GOP? Legionnaire's Disease? Gout? Testicular cancer?

    • ChessieNefercat

      Heh, how about some uncovered catastrophic illnesses that will even clean out people so rich they don't bother with insurance.

    • zhubajie

      Worse thing that could happen to them? Lose their money! Be poor themselves!

  • Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?

    The Treadmill and the Poor Law are in full vigor, then?

    • zhubajie

      It wouldn't surprise me if the tread mill came back, to generate electricity or something.

  • __kth__

    Did any of them come up with a dollar figure of how much they might save with this law, or is it "just the principle"?

    • Jukesgrrl

      It's their insatiable desire to see anyone they don't like suffer humiliation.

  • Fukui_sanYesOta

    I'm an immigrant from Europe, and I love this country a lot.

    However, sometimes I see shit like this and I'm just … wtf? Wait, what? Seriously? What is wrong with people here?

    • as a born and raised minnesotan, trust me you are not alone in your disbelief.

  • exmartinette

    How much do you wanna bet that there's a private sector vendor who has some "special terminals" to peddle to the state. Minnesota's Republicans are as phony as Tim Pawlenty's southern accent. (… )

    • BarryOPotter

      Oh, implementation of this most definitely would benefit some private sector entity. I've got a $1 that says some company ceo lobbied gov't officials, stoking the latter's hatred of the poor by suggesting "you and I know they don't buy food or pay bills with these large sums of money we give them, they buy drugs. Hey, I've got an idea…"

  • BarackMyWorld

    **looks at $20 dollar bill**

    Sez here:
    This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private.

    But I'm sure Minnesota's right-wingers will try to claim there's some invisible clause in the 10th Amendment that allows states to regulate transport of federal currency.

    • LibrulEleet

      It's right next to the invisible clause that lets the Arizona legislature conduct foreign policy.

    • ChessieNefercat

      "This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private. "

      Apropos of nothing, I remember my father (God only knows why) showing us kids how to fold a dollar bill so that that line read "gal tender and private." Something he learned in the army, no doubt.

      Carry on.

  • Callyson

    So, in just one day, we have proposals from Republicans to investigate women's abortions and poor people's wallets.
    George Orwell is looking down at us and laughing…or is that crying…or both?

    • he's puking.

    • Dudleydidwrong

      He's screaming at the top of his voice: "It was a warning, you stupid swine, not a 'how to do it' manual!"

    • zhubajie

      Why do you think he killed himself (more or less)?

  • EatsBabyDingos

    needz moar wampum

  • ChessieNefercat

    "Also, Newt getting a blowjob."

    No thanks, uh-uh, not gonna get me to click on that, no sirree.
    I like my eyeballs to not be shrieking in horror and running to the back of my head.

  • MadBrahms

    Wait, I thought free choice was the cornerstone of our glorious democracy / neoliberal economy!

    So wait: if giving the poor assistance in the first place is "socialism", what in the holy hell is regulating exactly what they can and can't do with it? Elliot Carter at his most indulgent couldn't even dream up this kind of dissonance.

    • ChessieNefercat

      "what in the holy hell is regulating exactly what they can and can't do with it"

      Silly! Free choice isn't for poors! It's for people.

  • Doktor Avalanche

    Somehow this is good AND bad news for MN white supremacists.

    • AddHomonym

      I see what you did there. Droll! But the supremacististseses clump together like socialists so one could buy all the Mountain Dew and Slim Jims, then sell it to the others for the extra $$$ (in $19.99 increments) to go buy bullets and such.

  • Doktor Avalanche

    From your lips to Thor's ears!

  • Doktor Avalanche

    Okay, now I get it. Conservatives are those who are able to hold debatable philosophies, that even if you don't agree with you can appreciate their argument. Republicans, however, want to take everyone who isn't like them — and fuck it, if they don't know what it's like to be poor, gay, an immigrant, etc, who cares — put them in a barn, torch it, collect the insurance and blame it on the people who died.

  • ChessieNefercat

    Spend all day with a supervisor from hell, and come home to depressing articles concerning people I am the tiniest step away from joining. Guess I just have to figure out what is most degrading; my job, or not having my job.

    Where's my box of wine?

  • mumbly_[redacted]

    To be fair, while it'll be illegal for the poors to carry any cash, it will still be 100% legal for them to carry as many guns as they want.

    So, basically, either the kleptocrats are every bit as short-sighted as they seem to be, or they're betting they can keep the poors angry at the wrong people and institutions more or less indefinitely, is that it?

  • Tommmcatt

    [Jesus] said also to the man who had invited him, "When you give a dinner or a banquet, do not invite your friends or your brothers or your kinsmen or rich neighbors, lest they also invite you in return, and you be repaid.
    But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind,
    and you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you. You will be repaid at the resurrection of the just."

    – Luke 12-14

    Pull this one out the next time one of these asshats start telling you how Republicans are the true party of Christian values …

    • "But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind," and the koch brothers. don't forget them! one has cancer.

      seriously, though, what's the one about "how you treat the least amongst me" and so forth? also, something about getting a rich dude into heaven like trying to squeeze a camel through the eye of a needle? something like that? pick and choose, pick and choose.

  • PuckStopsHere

    Oh for fuck's sake. What is wrong with these people? Details out today here in MI on Rick Snyder's new tax plan. Family making 15-thou sees a 1000 tax increase. Family making 200-thou takes a 500 hit. What is wrong with these people? It saddens me to have seen my country decline so far so fast. We I was growing up we were putting men on the moon. Today we can't fix a goddamn pothole in a goddamn road. And lite speed rail? Who needs it? Like the lady running for vice-gov in WI said, "I have a min-van." Fuck them. Fuck them all. Fuck them all hard. Fuck them all hard enough that they bleed. They may have to wait till Jan to recall Walker in WI, but here in MI we can recall Snyder in July and I pray God that we do. And I apologize for leaving out the snark here. It seems to have slipped my mind somewhow.

    • "What is wrong with these people?" what is wrong with them is they don't care about people. only money.

      i hear the passion and anger in your voice. my advice is to turn it into something positive, like recalling the fuck out of these fucks. michigander, a minnesota-born and adopted wisconsite stands with you. together we can fuck these fucks with their own fucking fucks.

      (and there's no need to apologize for leaving out the snark. you will be pleasantly surprised how many passionate people troll this glorious website.)

      love you, michigan. fists up!

    • GhostBuggy

      Have you seen the protesters turning out in Lansing lately? And I heard about one in Battle Creek today, Gov. Fuckwit's home town. So that's somewhat reassuring, at least.

      • Negropolis

        Did you hear about the 300 students from Lansing high schools that walked out of class and marched to the capitol ? Beautiful things are happening.

        • PuckStopsHere

          I happened to be in Lansing and I watched those hi school kids march down Mich Ave to the capitol Friday morning. The cops were cool–holding traffic at intersections so they could proceed in orderly fashion. The kids made me proud: Way to take it to The Man, young people! I think the R's are making it a little too clear to the masses that it is the masses that they are interesting in fucking over which I believe will redound to the benefit of our side and soon. At least I hope it does. We HAVE GOT to come our senses in this country.

  • Negropolis

    Good luck with that, you know, with a Democratic governor and all.

    GOP FAIL (again).

  • That's it. It's been great America (not really), but I think it's time we start seeing other countries.

  • PuckStopsHere

    Really? What state is Michelle Bachman from?

    • ChuckieJesus

      The same one Keith Ellison is. The same Paul Wellstone was. It's a fight, though.

  • ttommyunger

    I am no stranger to physical violence, and I say this with no joy: you can only push people so far, and no farther. These white on white suburban pussyfarts are playing with fire here and don't even have enough street-smarts to know it. We have the most violent culture in the world, bar none, and we are armed to the fucking teeth. Somebody needs a wake-up call before the shit really hits the fan here. Just sayin…

      • ttommyunger

        The people who need to see this never will. Their first warning will probably be a muzzle flash….Dummies.

    • zhubajie

      I've been thinking and saying this for years. Of course, I was expecting an economic meltdown for years.

      • ttommyunger

        Here's hoping we're both wrong.

  • The_Great_Gazoo

    Show me in the Constitution where it says anything about lights, gas, water, trash and phone.

  • Negropolis

    Sounds like Big Gubmint Socializm, ta' me. Duhz it ta' yew?

  • Lost_Teabaggers

    Hey…these new teabagger majorities are working so hard to make sure everyone except the Koch brothers hate them…the Democrats may need a cardboard cutout to win in 2012 at the rate these guys are going.

    • WriteyWriterton

      Cardboard cut-out…hmmm…why does that make me think, in these horrific times, of my Hopey McChangeling? (Still planning to vote for him again. Sigh…)

  • chicken_thief

    If only somehow it would dawn on those dickwads that if they spent half the time plugging corporate tax loopholes that they do thinking up ways to save a buck at the expense of the needy their fucking coffers would be overflowing.

  • Negropolis

    Wait, a minute. I'm looking at the swing from Democratic to Republican rule in MN and it looks to be even more a swing then most. Their house went from 87/47 Dem in the state house, to 62/72 Republican. Their senate went from 46/21 Dem to 30/37 Republican. The fuck?

    Here in Michigan, the house went 66/44 Dem to 47/63 Republican. And the senate. Well, it's been in Republican hands since 1983 or so (because of their success in redistricting), so who the fuck cares, amirite? The only notable thing about last year's election is that they got a supermajority, which is something that doesn't happen in Michigan. They have nearly 70% of the seats in the senate, which doesn't reflect the electoral layout or history of the state even a little bit, yet they claim it to be a respresentative body.

  • billy_reuben

    Not punished enough

  • freakishlywrong

    It's almost like they're all trying to out-hatefuck each other. If one comes up with something awful, these wingtards all pile on to do something even more hideous. Fuck em' all, recall where you can and hope we make it 2012 and hope they don't cheat. They love to cheat.

    • As trampndirtdown's linkie says, maybe time to rage against the machine.

      • I truly hope that it is not going to come to street battles, but like Tommyyunger said people are being pushed into a corner and they will fight.

    • WriteyWriterton

      It's a race to the bottom at breakneck speed. Predatory legislators abound right now.

      The Reagan-Democrats, the blue-collar union (or formerly union) voters who aren't too depressed to vote because they've been out of work for half their adult lives, better realize the butter's on the other side of the bread.

  • BarryOPotter

    The plan is to 1) facilitate the flow of government funds out of state treasuries to financial institutions – 2-5% fees for various transactions using the cards, which eventually flows back to politicians in some form (Rent Boys and Santorum); this allows them to 2) reduce the effective amount of assistance given to those who qualify, because hey, fuck those poorz; so that 3) they can pander to their base, which has an inordinate amount of people probably 2-3 paychecks away from being in a world of financial trouble themselves, ironically causing them to need gov't assistance, i.e., dumbass Kochsuckers.

    Sorry, too much rant, not enough snark, but it's as if mass hysteria has taken over larges swaths of the population, producing a toxic mixture of stupidity and cruelty.

    • Jukesgrrl

      Arizona's unemployment debit card is is issued and administered by Morgan Stanley.

  • Beowoof

    That looks like a line forming, but who would want come after Newt?

  • DahBoner

    It's funny, but Republicans never want to outlaw cash for themselves.

    Because boomers and meth dealers don't take plastic…

  • Ah, Thumbelina, the troll with the tiny penis, is back.

    OT, NPR O'Keefes James O'Keefe over at TPM.

    • not that Dewey

      I saw that. It's nice that they did it, but they could have done SOOOO much more.

  • Zombie_Reagan

    Boy, this won't affect the crime rate…not at all…no siree.

  • Redhead

    They just want to make sure those poor people can't use pubic assistance money to fund abortions of the kids they can't afford to have. Jackasses.

    • Jukesgrrl

      Again, punitive. Republican women used to be the biggest supporters of Planned Parenthood. Something about helping people get out of poverty by limiting the number of children they would need to support … But no more.

  • Walkinwiddaking

    Fat white guys with a good state pension are able to fuck over poor people. Makes sense.

    • Jukesgrrl

      And barely-out-of-poverty-themselves people voting for them because they're united in their hatred for anyone not as white as they are.

  • zhubajie

    You know, I came to China for 1 year, originally, to get some teaching experience on my resume. Employment prospects and the life of minimum wage slaves (as I'd been) kept not improving. Friends in the States kept saying "don't come back yet! Wait another year!" Now I'm in my 15th year and I guess I'm a zhongguoren. At least I can get my teeth fixed and things like that.

    • Negropolis

      At least I can get my teeth fixed and things like that.

      You shouold probably clue your countrymen in on the secret, then. They aren't exactly known for their great teeth (or health care, for that matter). Honestly, I don't mind ripping on the US, but someone from or living in China should be the last one doing it, and this is kind of getting old.

      America has some major problems, but you couldn't pay me to live in China.

  • comrad_darkness

    Ah, the Ridiculous Transaction Fees for our Rich Friends Act of 2011. Otherwise known as, the Poors Get a Little and Our Well-Connected Contractor Friends Get a Bundle.

    So, business as usual in Republican Land. yawn.

  • gah.

  • harkin

    Still no correction I see; this story was blown out of the water over 24 hours ago folks.

    Feel duped, feel very duped.

    • Go clean up your own house before complaining about ours. Brietbart puts out more sensationalist horse shit than anyone in the business.

      • glamourdammerung

        ACORN pimp says "what"?

        Also, notice how the Breitard makes a goofy claim, then offers no proof whatsoever beyond the sterling word of a jerk trolling this board just to be obnoxious?

      • Billmatic

        Yeah so we should be even more vigilant to report the truth.

        This is a bullshit story that was completely fabricated. It's much like a liberal "ground zero mosk" story. There's nothing really in the bill that says there's any particular prohibition against having $20. Has anyone here actually looked at the actual goddamned bill? My cousin figured this out in 10 minutes and we have over 200 libs here that are ready to freak out over something that's not even true.

        There is no justification for that.

        • Then why don't you and your cousin, as loyal Wonkette readers, write to Ken demanding a retraction or a correction.

          I'm not debating the merits of the story, I'm questioning the idea of a BreitBot – fresh from jacking off to James O'Keefe's latest turd, no doubt – riding in on his high horse to complain about the journalistic veracity of Wonkette.

          • Billmatic

            This story is bullcrap though and you're just pointing fingers at Andrew Breitbart. I'm really completely unclear what that accomplishes.

          • I'm pointing fingers at this troll, who wants to come score points. I'm not pointing fingers to defend the story, I'm pointing fingers to point out the hypocrisy.

            Sure, I'm being territorial. The other option is to let these hypocritical shit stains come in and wag their fingers at us as if they have a leg to stand on.

            So look, you want to tell us this story is false, as a loyal Wonkette reader, go ahead. Comment away. Have your cousin comment. Better yet, send an email to the editors, ask for a retraction.

            tips ~at~

            But don't tell me I have to let these fuckers ride around on their high horse like it is legitimate.

          • glamourdammerung

            The problem is that the story is accurate, unless someone wants to whine about the headline. The Minnesota GOP does wish to restrict cash withdraws of public assistance to $20 a month. This is completely accurate.

            The Breitard merely is making up the "over $20 pocket change ban" part to have something to cry about. They are literally whining that we fell for something they had to make up folks here believing. While other sites have claimed this, if you re-read the post, notice it is factually accurate, though the Crooks and Liars story is crap as per usual.

          • I know. It's like the Weekly World News sending Bat Boy over to complain about a story in the Enquirer.

          • glamourdammerung

            I asked them a simple question considering they have no issues with Andy Breitbart, Dan Riehl, Frank Gaffney, etc. telling blatant lies and they went "full retard".

            Even better that they made the stupid remark about how stupid my avatar picture looks. But I am not that conservative "journalist". I merely used the picture because I think the retarded child-raping walrus look is amusing.

          • I hear you. How do you deal with unreasonable fuck wads? It's become the most important question of our day.

            Please. I'd put Wonkette's journalistic record (jesus, did I just say that) up against Brietbart's any day.

            But still they come. "We're duped." This from the bunch that rolls out of their trailers to demand tax breaks for millionaires.

            Fucking assholes.

          • harkin

            Look at all the hate emanating from these leftist sheep just because it was pointed out that all the hate already spewed here was in reference to a BS story. No one should have to point out to Wonkette that their story is a fabricated propaganda piece, they if they were a reliable site they would have fessed up by now. It just means they already know and it's what they deal in daily. Keep hatin', haters!

          • Aw, poor tea bagger feels hurt that he doesn't feel the "freedom" to come and be a troll asshole.

            Just like all of you tea bag bitches – every vice is a virtue, isn't it.

            It's okay, you can go be an asshole on Brietbart. You can go be part of that hive hateful, racist, homophobic liars. Have fun, you completely transparent hypocrite.

          • harkin

            Nice example for everyone to see Ken. You bring absolutely nothing but hate to answer for nothing but lies. The conservatives in WI will win every time that facts are countered with hate and name-calling. But then that's all you've got.

            Keep up the great work for our side Einstein!!

  • Wow, so the joke name of the post of this article is almost 100% accurate. That's pretty scary. You who else wanted to ban people from having cash? HITLERSTALINMAO!

  • CBH77

    Aren't these same idiots the ones constantly hyperventilating about "gummint telling people what to do!"???

    Jesus, the cognitive dissonance is astounding.

  • MinAgain

    Oh, good God.

  • harkin

    KenLay – lol so lies are OK cause everybody does it?

    WoooooooHooooooooo!!! Change you can believe in! (and you're still all duped royally)

    • glamourdammerung

      Is your strawman dressed in a Halloween "pimp" costume?

    • Just curious, how does it feel to be a piece of shit hypocritical partisan hack on riding in on your high horse?

      You're so totally transparent.

  • harkin

    So calling BS on a BS story now amounts to creating a straw man argument? Weak indeed.

    Best look up definition of straw man argument then start blathering about the Koch Bros!

    • We're calling BS on you, you pathetic nit-brained hack.

      "Oh Ma! Look at the truth teller come to town from BrietBart-stan! Look MA! His pimp suit! It's a-shining!"

      Get the fuck out you ridiculous asshole.

      • harkin

        Why such hatred? Is your life that miserable? I mean we could have a beer and I could explain to you that socialism has always ended up making people like you (brainless sheep) even worse off.

        Keep hatin hater, i mean if that's all you've got!

        • It's just that you are so totally hateable. An ignorant hypocrite and a troll to boot.

          You want to have a beer? Go fuck yourself, tea bagger.

          • glamourdammerung

            Funny how someone whines about hatred, then calls one a "brainless sheep".

  • harkin

    BTW dood – epic porn stache!

    • And if you want to reply to people, hit the fucking reply button. That way our dipshit alarm can go off and we can come talk you down.

  • Buckminster

    Another ridiculous proposal that is NOT ABOUT SAVING MONEY AND BALANCING THE BUDGET! Haters.

  • computrpro

    Let us throw all Republicans who hide their money overseas or knowingly fail to file in prison for tax evasion because obviously they are guilty as sin. this proves the GOP wants to return to the 1300's where only the rich lived in houses and everyone else lived in holey cardboard boxes and used leaches for health care.

  • postol front

    So what, now cash is contraband for poor people?? What an oxymoron!! Another useless Ripofflicon measure. Lets force tax cheating corporations to get their benefits in nonspendable government debit cards, just the same as TANF and so on. So anyone on tax relief can’t do anything fun. Lets ban them from having cash, and while we’re at it, let’s make smiling an arrestable offense comrade. Not to mention the wearing of nice clothing. Let’s just issue them prison camp uniforms, and put a tax cheat mark on their drivers license!! If spending tax money on fun is illegal, anyone on tax relief should be treated the same as the poor!!!!

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