'WE DON'T TORTURE' HA HA REMEMBER THAT?  11:03 am March 14, 2011

Evil Obama Now Firing People For Acting Semi-Human

by Ken Layne

We laughed at this once, too.Guess who turned out to be the biggest asshole in the world? Your boyfriend, Barack Obama. The latest outrage in the Bradley Manning situation involves Obama’s direct involvement in the firing of State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley — because Crowley committed the sin of condemning the torture and abuse of U.S. Army Private Bradley Manning, who has been held in increasingly Soviet-esque solitary confinement since his arrest for giving WikiLeaks the diplomatic data that has so far helped topple two Arab dictatorships and launched democratic revolutions in another half-dozen Muslim nations. Anyway, Crowley’s semi-public remarks led to a reporter finally asking Obama about Manning’s awful treatment at Quantico, and Obama sneered and said the insane abuse of this American citizen is “appropriate.” And then Crowley was fired.

Remember, if you just “opt out” of the 2012 presidential election — and by “you,” we mean “all Democrats” — some awful Republican will become president and then none of us will have to “feel bad” about full-scale labor wars and nationwide shutdowns and the complete collapse of the American police state/kleptocracy. Let it collapse! It’s not like your 401k is ever going to hit 2007 levels again, no matter how much of your stretched salary goes into that black hole, year after year. It’s not like there’s a point to any of this!

Anyway:

So, in Barack Obama’s administration, it’s perfectly acceptable to abuse an American citizen in detention who has been convicted of nothing by consigning him to 23-hour-a-day solitary confinement, barring him from exercising in his cell, punitively imposing “suicide watch” restrictions on him against the recommendations of brig psychiatrists, and subjecting him to prolonged, forced nudity designed to humiliate and degrade. But speaking out against that abuse is a firing offense. Good to know. As Matt Yglesias just put it: “Sad statement about America that P.J. Crowley is the one being forced to resign over Bradley Manning.” And as David Frum added: “Crowley firing: one more demonstration of my rule: Republican pols fear their base, Dem pols despise it.”

Also:

By firing PJ Crowley for the offense of protesting against the sadistic military treatment of Bradley Manning, the president has now put his personal weight behind prisoner abuse. The man who once said that forced nudity was a form of torture, now takes the word of those enforcing it over a distinguished public servant.

It’s a muddled up, mixed up, shook up world when your Wonkette quotes Andrew Sullivan and Glenn Greenwald quoting Matt Yglesias and David Frum, all in the same post and not for the intrinsic humor value in quoting such people.

Remember how we all howled with laughter/disgust when Bush said, “We don’t torture”? Because of course the United States had turned into a Stalin-style Empire of Horror and we had taxpayer-supported horror prisons all over the world and the stacks of naked Iraqis and raped little children and people getting their fingernails pulled out and waterboarded and all that. Well now we have an administration that not only continues such evil as official U.S. policy, but is now actually torturing American citizens and standing up for it, right there from the presidential podium in the White House.

How’s that hopey changey thing working out?

 
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metamarcisf March 14, 2011 at 11:07 am

That P.J. Crowley is one good-looking gal.

BaldarTFlagass March 14, 2011 at 11:09 am

Needs more "party hats."

Radiotherapy March 14, 2011 at 11:12 am

Yeah, but is Obama gonna eat Crow?

teebob2000 March 14, 2011 at 11:14 am

I'm for waterboarding her t-shirt!!

SorosBot March 14, 2011 at 11:27 am

People, look at her face and not just the chest; she's a wrinkly old lady, and without a bra those large breasts are probably all saggy and wrinkly too. Have some standards.

Terry March 14, 2011 at 11:30 am

Male, heterosexual Wonketters are easily distracted by boobies. Witness their lusting over Katherine Harris, Sarah Palin, and Michelle Bachmann in past years.

teebob2000 March 14, 2011 at 11:34 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNDlf6hA6TY = average male, heterosexual Wonketteer.

SorosBot March 14, 2011 at 11:38 am

Not all of us! I've found all three hideous in appearance as well as ideology and stupidity & insanity.

teebob2000 March 14, 2011 at 11:34 am

Elitist

tessiee March 14, 2011 at 1:27 pm

As an old hussy with big knockers, I protest on behalf of all of us.

738838 March 14, 2011 at 11:50 am

You must mean P.J. Harvey.

Bonzos_Bed_Time March 14, 2011 at 12:12 pm

P.J. O'Rourke.

738838 March 14, 2011 at 12:17 pm

P.G. Tipps?

teebob2000 March 14, 2011 at 12:46 pm

I spotted the tips, too.

Lionel[redacted]Esq March 14, 2011 at 7:25 pm

They call me Mr. Tibbs!

PartyMarty March 14, 2011 at 11:51 am

Off topic, but I appreciate that your horribly low "reputation score" is worn like a badge of honor, having acquired it telling truth to idiocy on Breitbart hateboards. Keep on fighting the good fight.

BaldarTFlagass March 14, 2011 at 11:08 am

Maybe Obama really is a Manchurian candidate, but from the Republicans rather than the Muslims.

horsedreamer_1 March 14, 2011 at 11:31 am

He's Edmund Burke with plastic surgery to look thirty years younger!

rbwrbw March 30, 2011 at 3:59 pm

We could consider the extreme case in which the degree to which Obama has been corrupted from the ideals of his candidacy by the national security state is either a measure of his intimidation by or alignment with the prevailing national security power mongers. Again it is a worst case scenario, but that is a very powerful group. We saw the trouble Obama had against the healtch care lobby – and that is weaker than the bankers and the military. Obama is likely to tread lightly around them unless he has a really good deal of popular support. Unfortunately, it seems that the popular infrastructure that he had developed during his campaign has not been used fully to assist him in moving policy along.

lilblacktombo March 14, 2011 at 11:09 am

meet the new boss, somehow worse than the old boss?

DarwinianDemon March 14, 2011 at 11:17 am

Just like Gore was the same as Bush!

horsedreamer_1 March 14, 2011 at 11:31 am

If Gore had taken office, does 9/11 happen? Do you think a Gore Admin. would have ignored the outgoing Clinton Admin.'s admonition to keep an eye on Qaeda?

The ultimate evidence of this, & generally, of how a Gore Admin. would have differed from Bush's, is the continued, snivelling sniping at Algore by National Review. (Yes, I read it, sometimes, when I want to be angry.) Movement Conservatism, on the one hand, considers the former VP an has-been — never-were, even, in some quarters, therein, I'm sure — but yet he's notable enough they have to keep chipping away. Why is that? Why do they want to destroy that which isn't, really?

Bonzos_Bed_Time March 14, 2011 at 12:12 pm

Just got fooled again?

Monsieur_Grumpe March 14, 2011 at 11:09 am

If I call his treatment stupid will I be sent to Gitmo, deported, strip searched or water boarded? Dog bless Americka.

It is worse than stupid.

V572625694 March 14, 2011 at 11:10 am

Only if you're a deputy underassistant secretary of state for some bore-ass topic no one can remember. As a civilian you're okay as of now. But hey, things change!

V572625694 March 14, 2011 at 11:09 am

Don't you understand how dangerous Bradley Manning is? He threatens the very fabric of our democracy, as Juan McCain once said about ACORN. So he can't have any fabric. This is so obvious.

BTW, what sort of "license" do you suppose this torture-approving "psychiatrist" has? Probably went to the same fine DoD medical school that produced Nidal Malik Hasan, the Fort Hood shooter, also a shrink.

OneDollarJuana March 14, 2011 at 11:19 am

He actually does threaten the very fabric of our democracy. By telling the truth he threatens the power structure that keeps us (increasingly) fat and (decreasingly) happy.

V572625694 March 14, 2011 at 11:28 am

Ha! Or we could say he threatens the oligarchic kleptocracy that our democracy has become.

And he's gay! Ew!

tessiee March 14, 2011 at 1:30 pm

"BTW, what sort of "license" do you suppose this torture-approving "psychiatrist" has?"

"Seriously, Baby, I'm in med school; I can prescribe anything you want!" — Dr. Nick Riviera

MinAgain March 14, 2011 at 11:10 am

Can I take my vote back?

V572625694 March 14, 2011 at 11:12 am

No, but you can run around shouting, "He's not my president." That's the incantation teabaggers think means something.

natoslug March 14, 2011 at 11:21 am

Only if we all can, and they can be retroactively applied to Dennis Kucinich. It's about time we had an Elven-American President. It has to be Obama or Kucinich, though, because they're the only candidates with the credentials that count: Hot wives.

Lascauxcaveman March 14, 2011 at 12:08 pm

No, you can't have your vote back. Even in those heady times of 2008, you knew you were voting for the lesser of two weasels. If you were conscious and sober, that is.

bitchincamaro2 March 14, 2011 at 2:42 pm

I've been pretty much cold-turkey on teh Wonkett lately; duty calls. I poke my head up suddently and what do I spy? This is the post I was most dreading and looking forward to at the same time. Fuck you very much, Ken Barry.

Love,
bc2

SorosBot March 14, 2011 at 11:10 am

And yet my conservative acquaintances will still call Obama the "most liberal President ever", even though he's to the right of fucking Nixon.

cheaphits March 14, 2011 at 11:13 am

And getting ready to sit on Rush Limbaugh's lap.

Terry March 14, 2011 at 11:32 am

"Most liberal President ever" is code for the blackest president ever. His politics are irrelevant to people making that claim.

tessiee March 14, 2011 at 1:32 pm

THANK you!! I was wondering how far to the right President Obama would have to go before the idiots stopped calling him a "socialist" (not that they know what that means, but anyway). Thanks for clearing that up.

neiltheblaze March 14, 2011 at 4:05 pm

Only they said the same thing about Clinton too – and he wasn't the most liberal anything. He was a DLC flack and a Dem Bubba for Reagan. They would call any Democrat that. It's true that they are all wigging out like mad because Barry is black – but the Most Liberal Evah canard is standard issue.

Lascauxcaveman March 14, 2011 at 12:12 pm

Obama really is a lot like Nixon; progressive in some areas (Nixon had the EPA, China), but mostly middle of the road. Let's hope Barry avoids the whole breaking-and-entering-and-coverup thingee.

SorosBot March 14, 2011 at 12:25 pm

Unfortunately he seems to be following Nixon's refusing-to-end-an-inherited-unwinnable-war thing.

mumbly_[redacted] March 14, 2011 at 12:43 pm

And also trying to quietly expand it, too, even though it looks really criminally bad when "our boys" murder people in countries we're not at war with.

the_onceler March 14, 2011 at 12:21 pm

In a way it's a smart tactic– by claiming Obama is the most liberal President ever, it makes any actual liberal candidacy for the presidency that much harder to happen. Obama is basically moving the country to the right. Wow, and I genuinely thought it would be different.

[redacted]Crusher March 14, 2011 at 2:06 pm

It would be nice to have a Democrat President again, before I die.

SorosBot March 14, 2011 at 2:52 pm

I think the last one we had was Carter, and I was too young to really remember his administration.

And shouldn't you be up in the breast discussion with that avatar?

Troubledog March 14, 2011 at 11:10 am

Ophadell Williams was responsible for more deaths than Bradley Manning, and he's walking around free. With his clothes on.

PublicLuxury March 14, 2011 at 11:10 am

Did you see the rack on JP? Cowabunga

Ducksworthy March 14, 2011 at 11:11 am

Hate to say it but Frum is showing increasing signs of sanity. Republican pols fear their base, Dem pols despise it indeed.

PartyMarty March 14, 2011 at 11:30 am

Frum actually does make sense more often than not. Not in the sense that I agree with his opinions, but rather that one can follow his train of logic and not go insane. And he's been expelled from the Republican cool kid's club as a result.

tessiee March 14, 2011 at 1:34 pm

"the Republican cool kid's club"

Forgive me, but isn't that like being the tallest Munchkin?

PartyMarty March 14, 2011 at 1:49 pm

If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.

MittsHairHelmet March 14, 2011 at 11:11 am

Still not quite as hypocritical as McCain advocating the use of the very torture techniques used on him when he was a prisoner. Outdone by the Republicans again.

PublicLuxury March 14, 2011 at 11:12 am

Maybe Barry needs to spanked? Maybe our sexy Michelle will take him over her knee and spank his bad boy ass? OOOOOOOO Yeah.

LesBontemps March 14, 2011 at 11:13 am

Those tits are making more and more sense.

Oblios_Cap March 14, 2011 at 11:16 am

Did you see 60 Minutes and their interview with Curveball?

Obama is starting to remind me of Curveball. I hate the 2-party system.

V572625694 March 14, 2011 at 11:19 am

Shit, "Sixty Minutes" had an interesting (if somewhat late) interview? And I wasted the evening watching "The Seven Samurai." Terrific movie, by the way, all 3:17 of it.

OneDollarJuana March 14, 2011 at 11:21 am

Try "Yojimbo". Also excellent.

V572625694 March 14, 2011 at 11:31 am

"7 Sam" was on Netflix via Roku. Thank Jebus I don't have to walk all the way to the mailbox to get movies anymore. That was killing me.

tessiee March 14, 2011 at 1:36 pm

When *I* was your age, we had to go to the video store to rent movies. And *we* didn't have a remote! *We* had to get up and change the channel! Hell in a handbasket, I tells ya… rant… mutter…

KathrynSane March 14, 2011 at 11:18 am

All those in favor of changing the inscription on the Statue of Liberty from "Give me your tired, your poor, etc." to "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here," say aye.

Moonbat March 14, 2011 at 11:52 am

Aye.

Regretfully, but we should warn the poor schlubs who're mistakenly coming here to make a better life for themselves. Being a US American and a soldier ain't enough to keep you safe from the torture any more.

CookiE_MonstA March 14, 2011 at 12:38 pm

Opus was right. We have met the enemy and it is US!

tessiee March 14, 2011 at 1:36 pm

"Arbeit Macht frei" has a certain ring to it.

KnaveOfDiamond March 15, 2011 at 1:05 am

Assuming you can find any "arbeit", that is.

whiterabid March 14, 2011 at 2:37 pm

And just last night I watched a movie about illiterate immigrants living in a chop shop who chase the American dream everyday through child labor, bootleg cds, dvds, prostitution and menial jobs.

On second thought, maybe changing the inscription does make sense.

Radiotherapy March 14, 2011 at 11:19 am

At least he didn't get involved with the Wisconsin debacle.

DarwinianDemon March 14, 2011 at 11:20 am

That would have made Republicans dislike him and *then* where would we be?

LOL…ugh…I need an aspirin.

Bonzos_Bed_Time March 14, 2011 at 12:14 pm

Or the Libyan embroilment.

OneDollarJuana March 14, 2011 at 11:20 am

I don't want her to waterboard me, but I'll take "motorboating".

el_donaldo March 14, 2011 at 11:33 am

Yes, the whole waterboarding and torture issue is very divisive, but we can all come together on motorboating. I think a video of Obama motorboating those titties would go a long way to uniting our fractured country – you know those teabaggers spend most of their free time searching on the 'nets for interracial porn. This may not make Michelle too happy, but everyone needs to make sacrifices right now.

OneYieldRegular March 14, 2011 at 11:21 am

To paraphrase the immortal, sage, patiently-considered words of Robert Jackson, Chief Prosecutor at the Nuremberg trials, "This is f-ing disgusting."

EdFlintstone March 14, 2011 at 11:23 am

We are the status quo we've been waiting for.

Limeylizzie March 14, 2011 at 11:25 am

That person needs to get measured for a correctly fitting bra, I went to the Town Shop on 81st and B'way this weekend, very old-school and they don't use a tape-measure , just eyeball your naked frame and return with the exact right size bra It is astonishing, I have , apparently aong with 80% of all women, been buying an incorrect size all my life. Imagine my astonishment, and MrLimeyizzie's delight, to find out that I am a 34G, that is porn star sized! Oh and , yeah the treatment of Bradley Manning is stupid, but I still have the faith with Barry, and am eagerly awaiting his second term when he will fuck the beejezus out of the Republicans

V572625694 March 14, 2011 at 11:30 am

There you go again, p-whoring. Please keep it up, as it were.

Ducksworthy March 14, 2011 at 11:36 am

P's to both of you for getting mi=y mind back on something positive, titties.

V572625694 March 14, 2011 at 11:40 am

The serial downfisters must be so conflicted when they get to Lizzie's posts. Typing with one hand, to be sure. But up- or down-fisting? So hard to decide!

Limeylizzie March 14, 2011 at 11:48 am

That is my aim, I have one of those freaks "followng" me now, I hope that in the back of his mind ,as he gets marginally firm, is the little , nagging thought that I might be either a 14 year od boy or a fat , repulsive old man.

SorosBot March 14, 2011 at 11:56 am

More like two-handed downfister; now that I see our two wingnut stalkers have both changed their handles again, the former Liberal=Intolerant guy to Unions=Gangs and Spanky to UnionsRStreetGangs, my former strong suspicion that they were both the same guy has become a certainty.

kissawookiee March 14, 2011 at 12:19 pm

Up AND down-fisting! It is the koan of the fap.

Radiotherapy March 14, 2011 at 11:34 am

Yep, that's the carrot he's dangling way out in front. It can be his campaign slogan.
"Hope and Change…This Time We Mean It!"

Terry March 14, 2011 at 11:36 am

I went to a fancy fitting and found out that I'd been guess-timating at Target fairly well. LOL

I still have the faith with Barry but he IS trying my nerves, I swear.

"since his arrest for giving WikiLeaks the diplomatic data that has so far helped topple two Arab dictatorships and launched democratic revolutions in another half-dozen Muslim nations."

That fruit vendor in Tunisia immoliated himself over Wikileaks?

BaldarTFlagass March 14, 2011 at 11:38 am

No matter how depressing the subject matter of the day, Lizzie can always make me see the bright side of things and put a spring in my step with references to her rack.

ttommyunger March 14, 2011 at 11:41 am

Hard again!

LakeAfflicted March 14, 2011 at 11:50 am

That 80% is probably because at most of the big-box lingerie stores they take your measurements, and then they just laugh and laugh and laugh. "Ha! We don't even sell bras in that weird deformed size. I'll bet you really hate your life." Obviously not for the same reason you do, Mosquito Bites.

And Obama re Bradley Manning: a bit more Tamerlaney than I usually like to see in a U.S. president.

donner_froh March 14, 2011 at 1:18 pm

Well, it certainly got my attention–although it was because reading about shopping for ladies' lingerie is what gets me going.

deanbooth March 14, 2011 at 5:53 pm

34 replies?! Gee!

Allmighty_Manos March 14, 2011 at 11:25 am

Dear Obama: If you have decided to take the next two years off and sit on your ass hoping not to offend any Republicans, please STFU.

Chillwaver March 14, 2011 at 11:27 am

Waterboard Barry? Looks like Kendra Wilkinson is having another Meth Relapse…

[redacted]89048 March 14, 2011 at 1:56 pm

I'd never heard of this female person before; a google images search was both enlightening and embiggening, so thanks for that.

axmxz March 14, 2011 at 11:28 am

Next election, I'm voting for the boring white guy. Less disappointment that way.

ThankYouJeebus March 14, 2011 at 12:09 pm

We tried that with Al Gore and got W. Now I'm really depressed. Is it too early for vodka drinks?

axmxz March 14, 2011 at 12:13 pm

Yeah, but this time the boring white guy might be Mitch Daniels, who only wants to raise taxes forever.

natoslug March 14, 2011 at 12:24 pm

Raising taxes in a time of war? Is he crazy? The only way out of a hole is to dig deeper, dammit!

PartyMarty March 14, 2011 at 11:28 am

I admit, this is bad. But I know the next time I see him flash that smile of his or play with his adorable daughters or Portuguese water monster, all will be forgiven. I can't stay mad at him.

I certainly hope that fact is never taken advantage of…

Ken Layne March 14, 2011 at 12:18 pm

Oh yeah that will never happen.

BTW, if you just throw out your teevee (or at least disconnect the worthless fucking cable/satellite) and avoid the White House website, you're not going to see any cute-y pictures of goddamned Obama and his family being cute.

axmxz March 14, 2011 at 12:29 pm

Abandon Jon Stewart? NEVAR!

Ms Nippon Quasimodo March 17, 2011 at 9:29 pm

Watch TDS and CR on the intertubz – Comedy Central! You can also watch Rachel et al on MSNBC website, and English AlJazeera and Russia Today nooz online. You don't need the teevee or cable.

axmxz March 17, 2011 at 10:59 pm

Make that Al Jazeera and Echo of Moscow, and you're on!

slithytoves March 14, 2011 at 11:29 am

My anomie has anomie.

hagajim March 14, 2011 at 11:33 am

As Matt Damon said…I no longer hope for change….

jus_wonderin March 14, 2011 at 11:35 am

That woman is a boob.

Blendergoathead March 14, 2011 at 11:37 am

Shirt should say, "Motorboat Obama."

EatsBabyDingos March 14, 2011 at 11:38 am

Needs moar nipple ripple. Or Ripple or Thunderbird, or even Mad Dog 20-20, if I am to make sense of this.

KnaveOfDiamond March 14, 2011 at 11:38 am

There is the view floating around that voting doesn't matter, or to the extent that it does matter, we're better off letting everything go to hell.

I'm in Illinois. Since the midterm elections, our state has
a) Banned the death penalty.
b) Legalized civil unions.
c) Raised individual income and corporate taxes to get the state out of a massive financial hole in five years.

It's done all this while its neighbor Wisconsin is gearing up for an actual class war. What I'm saying is that elections really do matter at the local and state level.

jrients March 14, 2011 at 11:46 am

On the other hand, I'm feeling the same buyer's remorse about Obama that I felt about Blago this far into his first term. Only I don't remember anyone being tortured on Blago's watch.

fuflans March 14, 2011 at 11:52 am

and elected rahm.

KnaveOfDiamond March 14, 2011 at 12:05 pm

I don't know if this is good or bad for Chicago, but at least it will keep city politics fun to watch.

Midway117 March 14, 2011 at 12:02 pm

Thanks for that reminder. The tax hit sucked but it's done now and we've moved on. Meanwhile, my state is no longer killing in my name, and same-sex grownups who love each other have the same rights I do as a married hetero. And people ask me if I ever regret not leaving Illinois…

Oblios_Cap March 14, 2011 at 12:02 pm

As Tip O'Neill was fond of saying, "All politics is local".

imissopus March 14, 2011 at 12:32 pm

Not in Michigan if the new governor gets his way.

KnaveOfDiamond March 14, 2011 at 12:42 pm

Yes, well, serf's up in Michigan.

Ms Nippon Quasimodo March 17, 2011 at 9:32 pm

You're absolutely correct: state and local level. State and local Democrats know what a Democrat is and what the party stands for. I think they've learned their lesson re: being complacent about these elections against Teatards. Putting energy into these elections will bring us more than giving it away to the national Dems, who are whores for Wall Street and the Republican party. And who have been consistently throwing women under the bus, also, too. /drinking now

MinAgain March 14, 2011 at 11:38 am

I just sent a furious email to the White House. I considered including the phrase, "Hope, my ass", but decided that it was disrespectful to the office.

EatsBabyDingos March 14, 2011 at 12:03 pm

You won't get a reply for three months. By then the Martian Invaders will be our overlords and it probably will only take two months to get a reply from Alpha Centauri.

donner_froh March 14, 2011 at 1:11 pm

It would have been disrespectful to your ass.

PublicLuxury March 14, 2011 at 11:43 am

Who?

natoslug March 14, 2011 at 11:45 am

As long as she stands by him, she's the hottest thing in proximity. Can we compromise on youthful and clear-complexioned, which qualifies as hotness in comparison with most of the other first-ladies-in-running?

Ken Layne March 14, 2011 at 12:14 pm

"Hottest thing in proximity" is a good term for any non-hideous person seen around politicians.

As for Elizabeth Kucinich, she is a very striking person, and she has the height and the features for modeling. Whether you are masturbating to her right now is a matter of your personal preference and workplace policies, but complaining about her looks on an Internet forum is what's known as the "sharp knees phenomenon."

natoslug March 14, 2011 at 12:20 pm

Fortunately, my workplace policies do not prohibit masturbation. I've checked the policy manual, and like the constitution, it puts no restrictions on loving oneself. That said, I'll wait until this afternoon before imagining her as a lonely elf-maiden in need of rescuing.

HistoriCat March 14, 2011 at 12:52 pm

And she's a redhead – yum.

natoslug March 14, 2011 at 1:01 pm

I need confirmation. Her red-headness could be a fake like the Obama long-form bird certificate. Long, up-close, in-depth confirmation. It's the only way to ensure democracy.

Negropolis March 15, 2011 at 1:42 am

Amen. "Hotness by proximity" is an acceptable kind of hotness.

WhatTheHeck March 14, 2011 at 11:46 am

Its business as usual. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Unfortunately.

bumfug March 14, 2011 at 11:46 am

I really think Obama's behind all the "he's a socialist" stuff just to try and convince us that he's not the corporate piece-of-shit sellout that he obviously is. Are we supposed to be grateful that unlike the republicans, he uses lube when ass-fucks the country?

tessiee March 14, 2011 at 1:42 pm

You get lube??? You lucky BASTARD!!!

ttommyunger March 14, 2011 at 11:49 am

Now, for the first time in my life I am wondering if I should peacefully submit to arrest should I get on the wrong side of the Feds. Historically, a suspect could rely on timely, Constitutionally Proper, humane treatment and an equitable legal set of procedures. The American Legal System set up by Dubya and perpetuated by Barry is anything but what I've seen in the past. The Obits are full of men younger than me now, anyway… Go down in a hail of gunfire or live out your life in Solitary Confinement, naked, with no human contact, no trial, no dignity, no hope.
BTW: Nice rack!

V572625694 March 14, 2011 at 1:21 pm

Was that you at Ruby Ridge, T Tommy?

But I agree. Why not make one's death at least as meaningful as life?

ttommyunger March 14, 2011 at 1:28 pm

No, but it could be, any day now, sadly. I've done what he did, not for money, but for my own use…in fucking spades!

Bezoar March 14, 2011 at 11:52 am

Ken is such a Pollyanna; where's Jack?

SorosBot March 14, 2011 at 12:02 pm

Japan; see the sidebar.

natoslug March 14, 2011 at 12:27 pm

Off experiencing tentacle porn.

fuflans March 14, 2011 at 11:54 am

it's a fucked up world when a glenn beck website has to help clear NPRs name and NPR coverage is more ambivalent than glenn beck's.

Nopantsmcgee March 14, 2011 at 11:55 am

The most disappointing feature of Nobama is his likeness to Bush on detainees.

PublicLuxury March 14, 2011 at 11:55 am

I bet it was Obama

ttommyunger March 14, 2011 at 12:13 pm

I respectfully refuse to answer on the ground that it may tend to incriminate me ;)

GunToting[Redacted] March 14, 2011 at 11:58 am

Hitler?

ttommyunger March 14, 2011 at 12:13 pm

Clever dick!

Golfing_OJ March 14, 2011 at 11:58 am

[HuffPo]
I cannot concurr (sic) with this racist slant! Can't we all just get along! Stop staring at those gigantor-tiac tits!
[/HuffPo]

prommie March 14, 2011 at 12:04 pm

In the immortal words of Jack Welch, "Nice tits!" Classy guy, Jack Welch; my favorite quote from him is "who do I have to fire around here to get this network to call the election for Bush?"

tribbzthesquidz March 14, 2011 at 12:11 pm

Dear Barry,
The mask is wearing you now. Anybody home?
Regards,
Tribbz

DerrickWildcat March 14, 2011 at 12:11 pm

What's the point of being President if you can't torture people.

SorosBot March 14, 2011 at 12:15 pm

Well with that size there's no real need for a bra; I say the world's small-breasted women should let themselves fly free. And not just because I'm a horny perverted man with a thing for small-breasted women.

natoslug March 14, 2011 at 1:08 pm

I'm more of a gourmand. I find breasts of almost all sizes quite pleasant. At least when they are attached to an adult woman.

whiterabid March 14, 2011 at 2:45 pm

…with a pleasant face and sweet breath.

natoslug March 14, 2011 at 2:47 pm

Hey now, no reason to be so picky . . .

Bezoar March 14, 2011 at 12:15 pm

Seriously, is he really just feathering his future nest? Maybe he's after the same thing Palin is but he just goes about it more suavely.

tessiee March 14, 2011 at 1:43 pm

A brain-damaged marmot could go about things more suavely than Palin.

chascates March 14, 2011 at 12:20 pm

And without a James O'Keefe video!

Bonzos_Bed_Time March 14, 2011 at 12:22 pm

….and Catholic priests.

TanzbodenKoenig March 14, 2011 at 12:23 pm

You say torture, I say to-mah-to. Maybe if he didn't want to have his humanity systematically stripped from him he shouldn't have been caught / accused and presumed guilty before any sort of trial.

Tommmcatt March 14, 2011 at 12:57 pm

Right? If he isn't guilty why is he in jail? RIDDLE ME THAT, LIBTARDS!

Terry March 14, 2011 at 12:30 pm

True. It was sort of a perfect storm. Outrage over the leaked information, much better access to communication, and a trigger in Tunisia that set off the dominos.

natoslug March 14, 2011 at 12:31 pm

Some days, it feels as if we fell, as a nation, for a giant 419 scam (Dear Frend, I am Minister Okularcavity OhnoSir, and I haz Librul Prezdent . . . ). On the other hand, we'd probably all be dead or wishing (more so) that we were dead if McCain were President.

tessiee March 14, 2011 at 1:45 pm

Unless Mr. McCain can sleep with his eyes open, he would have "fallen out a window" or something similar a week after the election, and we'd now be looking at… I can't even say it.
[shudders]

natoslug March 14, 2011 at 1:55 pm

We've already made it over halfway through so Chillbilly would've already quit. We would now be looking at President Pelosi. Or, assuming Palin managed to stick with it long enough, President Boehner.

spooked911 March 14, 2011 at 12:32 pm

is the gal in the pic supposed to be an evil teabagger or a good-hearted opponent of torture with a wry sense of humor?

natoslug March 14, 2011 at 12:34 pm

Just a sec . . . gotta go lather 'em in peanut butter to make them extra-sexy!

Bonzos_Bed_Time March 14, 2011 at 12:49 pm

Careful, you're going to give Downfister a woody with talk like that.

Limeylizzie March 14, 2011 at 12:34 pm

That must be wonderful, especially in the summer, I yearn to let mine breathe free .

PartyMarty March 14, 2011 at 12:36 pm

Okay… i'll be the one to say it.

This story about Bradley Manning is awful and, moreover, disappointing. Obama was supposed to change this sort of thing. But has been shown to be the case over and over, he's not a paradigm breaker, nor did he ever claim to be one. He works within the system and is, at heart, a pragmatist and compromiser. For whatever reason, the course of action taken with Pvt. Manning was deemed pragmatic.

But, fellow fatalistic liberals, let us not freak out and turn rabidly on the most progressive president of our lifetime. You may scoff at that last phrase, but do not begin to tell me it isn't true. His first term accomplishments, from the small and numerous to the few and iconic dwarf anything any democrat has acheived since LBJ.

PartyMarty March 14, 2011 at 12:36 pm

So let's not stop complaining and let's attempt to keep him honest. Let's be disappointed when he fucks up and tell him so. But for every crushing disappointment like this one, there are a dozen un- or under-publicized lurches toward progress that we often don't give him credit for. To say he's the same as Bush, or whatever dismissive comparison carries the day, is just plain lazy.

I know a lot of you hate the line of reasoning above, but the alternative is kamikazi politics and Republican forever-rule. Obama is a good egg. Don't throw the black guy out with the bathwater.

Limeylizzie March 15, 2011 at 3:05 am

Thank you for saying that, I agree wholeheartedly , he is a good guy and I personally do not want to go down the Firedoglake road of insanity. I think we have to keep the faith with Barry and just wait for the second term. The right-wing is shooting itself in its collective feet and people are getting serious buyer's remorse over the mid-terms and our Barry is a poker-player and, while not the huge lefty that some poeple thought, although he certainly never indicated that he was, he will outfox them .

sezme March 14, 2011 at 12:39 pm

Oh well, at least he's stepping up on protecting worker rights in Wisconsin, and putting a stop the the muslim witch-hunt hearings, right?

[redacted]Crusher March 14, 2011 at 2:19 pm

My unicorn finally arrived in the mail.

Negropolis March 15, 2011 at 1:49 am

Yeah, let me guess, without the body attached, right?

Obama delivered my unity pony, too. Its head in my bed when I woke up.

riverside68 March 14, 2011 at 12:43 pm

Wadda ya mean Boyfriend? Just because I said he looked great without a shirt doesn't make him my boyfriend. Ya, I worked for him and gave him money, but that doesn't mean I actually had a crush on him!
Now if Michelle wasn't so scarry, maybe she could be a girlfriend, at least she doesn't wimp out on torturing people and all that rule of law business, not in public anyway.
Doesn't make you wonder how the pillow talk is going in the east wing these days?

Steverino247 March 14, 2011 at 12:52 pm

The problem with Dem Presidents after Truman (who would Nuke Your ASS, baby) is the expression "The President is soft on (fill in the blank)!" This has afflicted them since JFK and it's not stopping now. JFK authorized all sorts of shit, including continued atomic testing despite knowing the rain outside his office included fall out from it, because he was afraid of being called "soft on Communism." Well, once Communism went commercial (see Vietnam, Cambodia and China on your clothing labels) the fascists needed some new fear, so "Soft on terrorism" has taken its place. Bradley Manning is an asshole, but he shouldn't have to show his asshole to guards 24 times a day. He is presumed to be innocent until he is found guility and sentenced to anal probing for life. If abusing Bradley Manning keeps President Obama from being called Soft on Anything, then that is abuse well spent in the mind of the President and his handlers. It's really that simple.

PartyMarty March 14, 2011 at 1:10 pm

Agreed on all counts.

But buried in there is something we're not really talking about: Bradley Manning was leaking classified shit. Not to "the enemy", per se, rather to Wikileaks. But still. Not really his place to differentiate. Breaching the trust of your employer and flying in the face of your nation's interests… That's treason, brotha.

And yes, he hasn't been convicted yet. THAT is what makes all of this so horrible. We need to stick to our principals and treat him simply as somebody accused.

But while I have all the compassion in the world for his current situation, I'll tell you right now: If he's convicted, I could care less what dank hole they throw him into, or what they shove into his tender parts.

Steverino247 March 14, 2011 at 1:22 pm

We need to keep angry children away from prison guard posts. If the Marines would stop recruiting adults molested as children, this shit might not happen. And yes, I'm picking on the Marines since they're guarding him right now. I'm sure AMAC's enlist in the other services, too.

PartyMarty March 14, 2011 at 1:27 pm

Totally. Sadism should never be allowed to enter into American military procedure. You can throw a guy in the hole if that's what's necessary, but do so dispassionately. We seem to be hiring grinning weirdos who take pleasure in this stuff.

sati_demise March 18, 2011 at 8:44 pm

Manning leaked a film of our military killing journalists in cold blood. Now recently our military did the same thing- again- killing 9 boys who were collecting firewood. but wow, its all about Manning breaking the law? Really?

It might be better to look at the actual leaks and see if the military can change their ways and target the enemy instead of journalists and young children.

mumbly_[redacted] March 14, 2011 at 12:52 pm

Maybe he's hoping he can trick Republicans into opposing torture, since their platform consists of whatever is the opposite of what Democrats want, always and forever?

I'm going to at least tell myself that's what's going on, for piece of mind.

mourningnmerica March 14, 2011 at 1:07 pm

I wonder how many of us would support a primary challenge to Barry. Bitterly disappointed does not quite capture the depth of my feelings toward him.

donner_froh March 14, 2011 at 1:09 pm

Bradley is an Army PFC who was busted from Spec 4 because he released classified information on his Facebook page while being trained as a military intelligence analyst. If he is the threat that this country is protecting its citizens from by trashing whatever shreds of goodwill still exist then the real enemies have nothing to worry about.

V572625694 March 14, 2011 at 1:17 pm

It's funny how many "journalists" buy into this. The longer they spend in the warm tongue baths of their handlers at DoD and State, the more suborned they become.

Well, it isn't funny, it's sad. I heard NPR's "national security" correspondent Dina Temple-Raston opining about how inconvenient it is to have people insisting on antique concepts like "trials" and "constitutional rights" for the terrorists at Gitmo.

And by the way, journasaurs one and all: they're not "detainees." They're "prisoners." You can't even call them "convicts" because…ha ha ha.

tessiee March 14, 2011 at 1:33 pm

The second half of that proverb (??) is, "if NOT voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal".

DahBoner March 14, 2011 at 1:38 pm

Must act like robot so insane toothless backwoods hillbilly won't put bullet in my head.

Must act like robot…

PartyMarty March 14, 2011 at 2:09 pm

Certainly not.

Guppy06 March 14, 2011 at 2:47 pm

Because we didn't see this coming after his pro-torture votes in the Senate?

notover2k March 14, 2011 at 2:48 pm

I dont know about any of this stuff but that woman has an incredible rack!

whiterabid March 14, 2011 at 2:58 pm

PFC Bradley is lucky he hasn't been drawn and quartered, which would have been his punishment if Edward Longshanks were president.

Plowmon March 14, 2011 at 5:21 pm

Nice rack but the grill needs some work…

zhubajie March 14, 2011 at 8:31 pm

I do not expect any future president to give up any of the "unitary executive" powers amassed by Bush and continued by Obama.

hellbabe March 15, 2011 at 12:10 am

Oh, Ken. I used to come here to laugh….now, the articles bring more tears than laughter. It all seems so hopeless.

Negropolis March 15, 2011 at 1:39 am

one more demonstration of my rule: Republican pols fear their base, Dem pols despise it.

These truly are the end times. I'm agreeing with lazy-eyed David fuckin' Frum.

Negropolis March 15, 2011 at 1:55 am

Barry can keep trying to sell his hope-on-a-rope, but I ain't no dope. No deal, Mr. President.

Come back when you start representing our better and best angels, instead of futilely clinging to the unabashed evil that has been American security policy for, like, ever. Move, bitch; get out the way, get out the way, get out the way…

harlem_gilligan March 15, 2011 at 1:59 am

"for giving WikiLeaks the diplomatic data that has so far … launched democratic revolutions in another half-dozen Muslim nations"
oh, come on.
yes ken, the libyan rebels are being led in their struggle by the valiant julian assange. private manning's naked martydom was the final straw that brought the protesters to tahrir square.
stick to political gossip comedy.

sati_demise March 18, 2011 at 8:47 pm

and between the Executive and Judicial branches. Very odd. Not right. Terribly wrong.

WhatTheHeck March 14, 2011 at 11:51 am

No chance of that Lizzie. You blew your cover with that 34G revelation.

tessiee March 14, 2011 at 1:38 pm

You're assuming that he's turned *off* by 14 year old boys?

Terry March 14, 2011 at 12:01 pm

True. I've mistakenly lumped you in with the other fellas before. Sorry about that.

Bonzos_Bed_Time March 14, 2011 at 12:15 pm

Could be a fat, repulsive old man w/ 34G moobs…

Bonzos_Bed_Time March 14, 2011 at 12:17 pm

I'm lucky enough to have them befriend me. What the hell, it ups my pee points.

MarshallBanana March 14, 2011 at 12:43 pm

Hey, I got one o' them on my tail too, as of today! Awesome! It's truly an honor to know that I'm helping raise the blood pressure of a teabagger. Hopefully one day it will explode in a spectacular geyser, "Fist of the North Star" style.

V572625694 March 14, 2011 at 1:13 pm

Damn! He totally had me fooled! Or would have, if I gave a shit.

Trolls=dumbfucks

natoslug March 14, 2011 at 12:23 pm

Hey, don't mock my moobs!

tessiee March 14, 2011 at 1:39 pm

What is the sound of one hand fapping?

ALIVE! March 14, 2011 at 1:42 pm

Yeah, I'd say they were more PG-13.

whiterabid March 14, 2011 at 2:18 pm

I too don't find the aforementioned females particularly attractive. They would be well cast in MacBeth, Act I, scene 1. But I have to admit of an attraction to Meghan McCain. I think it's because she is blonde.

SorosBot March 14, 2011 at 2:51 pm

She's also under 60, which helps.

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