SWEEP THE LEGS  4:12 pm March 11, 2011

Michigan Gov Giving Himself Power To Take Over Cities, Destroy Their Unions

by Jack Stuef

Shooting up power.Make no mistake, Michigan has a whole lot of financial problems, pretty much all the time. It’s the only state in the Union that continually bleeds residents more residents than it takes in and thus loses much of its tax base each year. And it’s not just the state government, which has to make cuts to balance its budget each year, that has problems; many municipalities abandoned their police forces and other services and allowed state agencies, such as the state police, to come in and oversee them. But this is something altogether: new Governor Rick Snyder will soon sign a bill that will allow him to take over or even eliminate whole cities or school districts, remove locally elected officials, install puppet leaders or even corporations to take over, and drop all existing contracts the locale is bound to, including, of course, collective bargaining agreements.

And to top it all off:

An amendment to require Emergency Managers to hold monthly public meetings to let people know how they are governing was rejected by Senate Republicans, along with proposals to cap Emergency Manager compensation and require that those appointed to run school districts have some background in education.

Who is Rick Snyder? He’s a guy whose total time spent in public office amounts to all of two months. Why should he appoint people with experience to puppet posts if he has no experience and people still let him be the governor of the state?

Yeah, seriously. That was seriously the ad that launched his campaign. That was all he had to offer. Being a “nerd” who outsourced jobs for some corporation. Maybe these municipal leader jobs will also be outsourced?

Enjoy trying to figure out the Mandarin-language public meetings your new executive dictator will hold for you, Michiganders. That’s the only democracy you’ll have left, if Rick Snyder even gives you that. It’s not a requirement, after all.

These manager jobs seem like good positions for Hosni Mubarak and Muammar Gaddafi to have. But they’ll have to be content with having less dictatorial power than the Michigan governor.

[Michigan Messenger]

 
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nounverb911 March 11, 2011 at 4:15 pm

Better watch out for that tsunami coming in from Lake Michigan.

wonkettkinkster March 11, 2011 at 4:15 pm

Jack is drunk again.

Mumbletypeg March 11, 2011 at 4:23 pm

well why should he have all the fun? Pour me another ginormous & tonic, stat!

user-of-owls March 11, 2011 at 4:27 pm

No no, my friend. The proper syntax is, "Maw! Jack has taken drink agin!"

Fukui_sanYesOta March 11, 2011 at 4:38 pm

Even better if you imagine Ken saying it.

bumfug March 11, 2011 at 4:57 pm

Who could stay sober looking at shit like this all day?

Come here a minute March 11, 2011 at 5:10 pm

Can you blame him, after his vacation has been totally fucked up?

[redacted]89048 March 11, 2011 at 6:12 pm

And who knew that blogging for Wonkette could afford one to take a vacation to Japan?

not that Dewey March 11, 2011 at 6:21 pm

So am I. What's your point?

SorosBot March 11, 2011 at 4:16 pm

They're not even trying to hide the fascism any more.

OC_Tsunami_Surf_Serf March 11, 2011 at 4:22 pm

The mitten is now smitten with gittin uh, um, fascism..

baconzgood March 11, 2011 at 4:31 pm

The Teatards aren't smart like Rove.

Lascauxcaveman March 11, 2011 at 4:59 pm

Meh, who cares? Michigan, unlike Wisconsin, isn't exactly vital to our nation's cheese or lite beer supply. I thought it was basically a ghost town already, used only as a movie set for post-apocalyptic films.

[redacted]Crusher March 11, 2011 at 5:50 pm

Well, they do have that really awesome Robocop statue.

[redacted]89048 March 11, 2011 at 6:13 pm

Where else they gonna film those Dodge commercials?

ChessieNefercat March 11, 2011 at 6:30 pm

I care. But then, I live in this state. Sort of. I'm in the UP. And I didn't vote for Governor Asswipe, either.

phlox✔ March 11, 2011 at 8:37 pm

U.P.? Hah. You live in Canada.
Seriously though, have you thought about seceding?

ChessieNefercat March 12, 2011 at 9:02 am

Since I ended up here nearly twenty years ago, I have heard occasionally that the UP throughout its state history has considered either forming its own state (not a chance) or asking Wisconsin politely if the UP could pretty please join it (much more geographically reasonable than being a part of Michigan). On the other hand, Facebook confidently assigned me to the Thunder bay Ontario group when I signed up.

cheaphits March 11, 2011 at 5:44 pm

Good point and no, they sure aren't hiding it any more. Is it just ignorance and the empowerment of being in charge and important?

Maybe, part of it, but they know they have powerful supporters, can invoke the power of the State and probably dismiss their opponents as ineffectual.

It's going to take more than twittering to make that change.

Ducksworthy March 11, 2011 at 5:46 pm

The saw those huge crowds of teabaggers on Fux and now believe they have a Man-Date.

not that Dewey March 11, 2011 at 7:07 pm

Hidden in plain sight. From all the David Mamet movies I've watched, that appears to be the best/worst way to do anything.

WigFlipper March 11, 2011 at 4:18 pm

Is there even a funny joke to be made about this?

Probably one about Robocop/OCP etc., but I don't feel particularly jolly about this shit.

Jukesgrrl March 11, 2011 at 4:34 pm

You and me both.

OhNoGuy March 11, 2011 at 7:28 pm

How about this; they spelled turd wrong.

nounverb911 March 11, 2011 at 4:18 pm

So Kip Chalmers came back from the dead and finally got himself elected to something.
(Think about this one for a while, it's from the teabaggers favorite book.)

trondant March 12, 2011 at 12:48 pm

They made a comic book out of Atlas Shrugged?

Gratuitous World March 11, 2011 at 4:20 pm

i'm so surprised by this executive power grab by a "small government" republican.

and as a union attorney in michigan, I have to say, please let the Unemployment office know my middle initial is "B." and go fuck yourself, poindexter.

Jukesgrrl March 11, 2011 at 4:35 pm

Yes, "small" appears to be another word Republicans don't understand. We had a list of them the other night. This needs to go on it.

Beowoof March 12, 2011 at 12:07 am

Well it is clear from when they discuss their penis size that small and large are foreign terms. 10 inches doesn't mean you start measuring from the small of your back.

MegPasadena March 11, 2011 at 4:59 pm

Small means small number of people who have power, like the governor and a few managers he will replace all the mayors with.

PublicLuxury March 11, 2011 at 4:20 pm

No cap on compensation? How do I get one of these publicly paid for government job?

Is our country headed toward a civil war?

Isner_Mahut March 11, 2011 at 4:22 pm

Hopefully.

nounverb911 March 11, 2011 at 4:23 pm

Sounds just like Bell, California.

mereoblivion March 11, 2011 at 5:38 pm

Did the first one ever end?

Beowoof March 12, 2011 at 12:08 am

I don't think so and I do believe it is time to get that rifle I have been thinking about.

Jukesgrrl March 12, 2011 at 12:13 am

Now it's carried on with reenacters and they have a party after every battle. "See y'all at the Marriott."

[redacted]Crusher March 11, 2011 at 5:52 pm

I think it will be more like the French Revolution.

Beowoof March 12, 2011 at 12:09 am

Oh sweet, cake and guillotine. A type chopping I can behind for republicans.

zhubajie March 11, 2011 at 7:36 pm

"No cap on compensation? How do I get one of these publicly paid for government job?"

Contribute to his entertainment fund, probably.

Negropolis March 12, 2011 at 12:38 am

You get the job by being close to our DINO state treasurer, who was most recently our Speaker of the House. You get two days training, and if a city 'accidentially' falls into a financial emergency, you can make more than the governor himself!

Democracy, ain't she grand?

sezme March 11, 2011 at 4:20 pm

I hate Michigan Nazis.

tessiee March 11, 2011 at 9:32 pm

I have a pair of Ray-Bans and some gas in my car; if you have half a pack of cigarettes, we're good to go.

trondant March 12, 2011 at 12:50 pm

Hit it.

Rod_Torfulson March 12, 2011 at 3:28 pm

Does it increase or decrease our base of supporters if we say that we're on a mission from god?

tessiee March 12, 2011 at 4:27 pm

True story: When I lived in a Southern state where life and vanity plates are cheap, I had a vanity plate on my car that said, "BLUES" (because it was the Bluesmobile).

mayor_quimby March 12, 2011 at 7:16 pm

Ummm, wolverines!

EdFlintstone March 11, 2011 at 4:21 pm

Democracy is so 2008.

baconzgood March 11, 2011 at 4:32 pm

Democracy is so 1999.

FIXED

horsedreamer_1 March 11, 2011 at 4:36 pm

Prince is the heir to Nostradamus.

OneDollarJuana March 11, 2011 at 4:40 pm

Democracy is so 1979.

FIXED AGAIN

Extempor[redacted] March 11, 2011 at 4:53 pm

Democracy is so 69.

SEXED

Gratuitous World March 11, 2011 at 5:05 pm

Democracy is so 1917.

MEXED

DustBowlBlues March 11, 2011 at 4:51 pm

That's what Demcrats thought when they couldn't get inspired enough to go vote in 2010. Fuckers didn't waste a minute guaranteeing the Republics would get every fucking thing they've ever wanted, did they?

doloras March 11, 2011 at 7:14 pm

Yeah, but don't you understand? All Democrats are craven, spineless and morally weak, so it DOESN'T MATTER if Rick Snyder, Scott Walker, Sarah Palin etc get elected.

ChessieNefercat March 11, 2011 at 6:34 pm

Democracy is so 2011.

FUCKED.

Extempor[redacted] March 11, 2011 at 7:00 pm

Your U.P.-launched F-bomb just rendered my extended clip of unspent "Democracy is so…" rounds utterly irrelevant.

CHUCKED

TsunamiAli March 11, 2011 at 8:01 pm

Democracy is so fucking that chicken.

PLUCKED

CalamityJames March 11, 2011 at 10:53 pm

How narrow do you think this thread can get?

Oh, sorry, democracy is so imaginary friend.

user-of-owls March 13, 2011 at 2:21 pm

Democracy is so Grassley

SHUCKED

smokefilledroommate March 11, 2011 at 4:21 pm

What is it with these power-hungry amateurs?

V572625694 March 11, 2011 at 4:43 pm

When you've made all the money you or your children could ever want, you need a hobby. Telling everybody else what to do fits right in your wheelhouse.

smokefilledroommate March 11, 2011 at 4:46 pm

Snyder: …next step: God of Michigan!

cheaphits March 12, 2011 at 7:34 am

The answer is to fight back. There are lots of ways to do this and the more the better.

The firefighters in Madison have been withdrawing their money from M&I Bank, which donated heavily to Walker's campaign. A main branch in Madison or Milwaukee closed early today because they were overwhelmed with people wanting to withdraw their money.

Doktor Avalanche March 12, 2011 at 11:39 am

Does that make Walker Jimmy Stewart? "Wah, wah, I don't have your money, Pete! It's in David Koch's pocket, and, and I had to bribe some other Senators…Don't you see, it's the new democracy."

OC_Tsunami_Surf_Serf March 11, 2011 at 4:21 pm

another Lake Effect Snowjob from Snyder.

Barbara_i March 11, 2011 at 4:22 pm

Your benefactors, the brothers Koch won't be able to save you from these people in November, when they recall you.

iburl March 11, 2011 at 7:32 pm

Thank you for that bit of optimism.
This guy would have told a different story, if he'd lived: http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Karl_Roves_IT_guru_

cheaphits March 12, 2011 at 7:48 am

The answer is to fight back. There are lots of ways to do this and the more the better.

Feel free to not support those in this list who supported Scott Walker in the 2010 election with contributions of over $5,000 or more.

Don’t give any of them a dime or any business. Tell your friends.
Political Action Committees ($5000 or more in contributions)

* ABCPAC-WIS
* AT&T Wisconsin Employee PAC (formerly SBC)
* Building a Better WI/Wisconsin Builders Association
* Concerned Realtors Committee
* Deere & Company PAC – WI
* Eli Lilly and Company PAC
* FONEPAC Telecommunications & Computers
* Friends & Neighbors of Robin Vos
* Friends of Alberta Darling
* HNTB Holdings Ltd PAC
* KochPAC Natural Resources
* Managed Health Services/Centene PAC

* Northwestern Mutual Life Insurance
* Operating Engineers 139 PAC
* People for Rebecca Kleefisch
* Realtors PAC
* Republican Party Milwaukee Co
* Republican Party of Wisconsin
* Tavern Industry PAC
* TDS Telecom
* Wal-Mart Stores/WAL-PAC
* WellPAC Wellpoint Inc
* WI Credit Union League Action Fund (WCULAF)
* WI Dental PAC (WIDPAC)
* WI Insurance Alliance PAC
* WI Pipe Trades PAC

Doktor Avalanche March 12, 2011 at 11:41 am

What the…?! Wonder why there was no Whitewater/Vince Foster for this story.

Not really.

Radio[redacted]™ March 11, 2011 at 4:23 pm

This sucks more than the Detroit Lions.

LesPaultard March 11, 2011 at 4:33 pm

No, that can't possibly be true…

Angry_Marmot March 12, 2011 at 8:37 am

Let's not say anything we'll regret later.

PuckStopsHere March 13, 2011 at 1:40 pm

That's A LOT of suck is what that is.

SayItWithWookies March 11, 2011 at 4:23 pm

In a party line vote, and despite impassioned speeches of protest by the body’s Democratic minority, the Michigan Senate approved legislation that threatens to take over and even dissolve local governments that refuse to balance their budgets by breaking labor contracts.

What the fuck?! And when do we find out that all these Republican governors passing all this anti-union pork-for-the-rich legislation aren't just doing it all at the same time by coincidence, but that someone is orchestrating this shit?

EdFlintstone March 11, 2011 at 4:42 pm

Don't hold your breath for the MSM, but you can find out the latest on Charlie Sheens tweets and Lindsay's shoplifting. Oh and they'll show a poll.

SorosBot March 11, 2011 at 4:48 pm

Some say municipalities have a right to self-determination in local matters and the choices of the people should be respected; others say that a newly-elected Governor should become the all-powerful overlord of the state.

techmom March 12, 2011 at 4:46 pm

I think this is how Emperor Palpatine started.

genxr March 11, 2011 at 4:46 pm

I assume local governments that break their labor contracts and don't balance their budgets are fine.

HateMachine March 11, 2011 at 5:53 pm

Initially, sure. Municipal governments will be held hostage, with promises of safety if the unions come out with their hands up. And I'm sure there will be some "executions" during this step, to show they mean business. And the cities/towns that gave up their unions will feel safe for a few.

A couple months later, though? They'll all be on the chopping block.

OhNoGuy March 11, 2011 at 7:34 pm

The Republican wet dream is a nonstop budget crisis and they're well on their way to creating it.

ChessieNefercat March 12, 2011 at 9:14 am

And money-sucking useless wars. Soldiers on all sides and civilians being just collateral damage on the way to unlimited no-bid contracts draining the public coffers into private pockets.

When are the braindead 'baggers going to figure that out?

[redacted]Crusher March 11, 2011 at 5:59 pm

Iowa House Republiklans have dropped everything else to try to pass a bill stripping collective bargaining power from the public unions, despite the fact that the Democratic controlled Senate has told them that the bill would not even get out of committee.
I would believe that this is all been orchestrated.

SayItWithWookies March 11, 2011 at 8:53 pm

I think you're thinking of Ohio, but yeah — John Kasich removed two Republicans from the committee and replaced them with anti-union members with virtually no notice. Totally underhanded — and against his own party. Whatever it takes, I guess, is the philosophy.

magnetite March 12, 2011 at 10:29 am

"Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action." Goldfinger

MarcelleMarceau March 12, 2011 at 8:28 pm

"All politics is local."

Not any more.

user-of-owls March 11, 2011 at 4:24 pm

This is a fucking crappy sequel of the original movie. Michigan doesn't have any steppes and Snyder doesn't look anything like Putin.

V572625694 March 11, 2011 at 4:46 pm

Michigan pretty much is a steppe. The whole state's a fucken glacial till plain.

user-of-owls March 11, 2011 at 4:52 pm

Geographical designation aside, I refuse to believe Michigan has steppes until we see places named Lansingsk and Ann Arborograd, read epic, searing poetry about the dark nature of the UP soul, and witness the inauguration of Omar Sharif.

Otherwise, it's just a bunch of undistinguished flattishness.

V572625694 March 11, 2011 at 5:01 pm

“Arkady [“Ted”] Nugentovich, don’t go to Hamtramck!”
“But Yevgeny Vasil'evich, I must! With my balalaika I can conquer the whole world!”
______
And by the way, “bunch of undistinguished flattishness” = “steppe”

ChessieNefercat March 11, 2011 at 6:42 pm

"the dark nature of the UP soul" = "hey, where da beer"?

I live in the UP. The only searing poetry likely to come out of the UP would probably have to do with barbecuing a steak. Oh, and rhyming "sear" with "beer."

Though there are many nice people and the scenery is very pretty and there is no smog.

LesPaultard March 11, 2011 at 4:56 pm

So you're telling me Paul Bunyan didn't level it out for us?

jus_wonderin March 11, 2011 at 4:59 pm

No, it was because Babe sneezed.

OneDollarJuana March 13, 2011 at 12:02 pm

Steppes are treeless. Michigan was covered with forests until axes arrived. Glacial till has nothing to do with it.

V572625694 March 14, 2011 at 10:42 am

Ignorance of geomorphology is no impediment to talking about it, hengnh?

baconzgood March 11, 2011 at 4:24 pm

I guess democracy is like land, there's only so much to go around. Enjoy Michigan's constitution Egypt.

DustBowlBlues March 11, 2011 at 4:53 pm

A zero sum game.

karen March 11, 2011 at 4:24 pm

I'm waiting for someone to declare all parties, except the Republican party, illegal.

SmutBoffin March 11, 2011 at 5:31 pm

And then try to mollify the upset people by saying ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES DURR!!!

Dr_pangloss March 11, 2011 at 6:48 pm

Who will be rounded up first I wonder? I'm betting its the "illegals".

Jukesgrrl March 12, 2011 at 12:20 am

I think it will be whatever's left that passes for intelligentsia.

ChessieNefercat March 12, 2011 at 9:17 am

Welcome to Cambodia. Stock up on contact lenses while you can. People with glasses are smart, which means educated, which means dangerous, which means off to the work/re-education/death camps with them.

horsedreamer_1 March 12, 2011 at 8:05 pm

Finally, we'll find out if Palin did, in fact, have Lasik surgery.

OneDollarJuana March 13, 2011 at 12:03 pm

Today we are all "illegals".

tessiee March 11, 2011 at 9:33 pm

Don't give them any ideas, please.

OhNoGuy March 11, 2011 at 10:53 pm

Garden parties will still be A-OK.

trampndirtdown March 12, 2011 at 1:34 am

Lindsey Graham (C-loset) S.C. approves.

imissopus March 13, 2011 at 1:01 am

Hey, you know who else "liquidated" all opposition parties?

Seriously, he did. Around the same time he dissolved all the trade unions in 1933.

Doktor[redacted] March 13, 2011 at 2:13 am

Look, that was nothing compared to the truly horrific things Hitler did, like continuing the Universal Health Care system that Bismarck instituted in the 1890s. That's the Hitler comparison that matters.

Monsieur_Grumpe March 11, 2011 at 4:24 pm

I lived in Michigan for a number of years. I still bad mouth the state but it doesn't deserve this shit.

ChessieNefercat March 11, 2011 at 6:42 pm

Thank you.

Schmannnity March 11, 2011 at 4:25 pm

"a bill will allow him to take over or even eliminate whole cities or school districts, remove locally elected officials, install puppet leaders or even corporations to take over"

WTF! This sounds like Iraq.

Jukesgrrl March 11, 2011 at 4:40 pm

Yes, don't citizens in municipalities have the right to self-determination? I don't remember anything about American citizens having "the right to choose their leaders until their governor decides that's inconvenient for him."

I just looked up the Michigan Supreme Court. They don't appear to be lightweights. Surely this "law" will end up on their docket. http://www.courts.michigan.gov/supremecourt/about

Negropolis March 13, 2011 at 6:56 am

Yeah, and the Republicans have ruled the Supreme Court, here, too, for many years with a brief hiatus last year when Granholm got to replace a disgruntled Republican appointee who hated what the other Republicans on the court had done. It has got to be one of the most dysfunctional and partisan courts in the country.

OhNoGuy March 11, 2011 at 10:54 pm

When was Paul Brenner elected, again?

riverside68 March 12, 2011 at 10:19 am

It's already been done in Rhode Island. (Which BTW celebrates independence day on May 4th, 'cause it got there FIRST Bitches!)

Central Falls coming soon to a city near you: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/22/us/22mayor.html

donner_froh March 11, 2011 at 4:25 pm

The Emergency Financial Manager for the Detroit Public School–named Robert Bobb in one of those "his parents have no imagination" things–was appointed to get rid of the crippling deficit the DPS had accumulated. After almost three years of closing schools, laying off teachers and outsourcing anything that moved the deficit is high than when he started and the DPS will have to borrow again just to meet payroll.

With a track record like that who can blame fucknuts Snyder from wanting to expand it to every (Democratic) corner of the state?

horsedreamer_1 March 11, 2011 at 4:38 pm

What do you expect? Cheddar Bob(b) shot his own nut when he accidentally triggered the gat in his waistband, so we know the family isn't all that bright.

Preferred Customer March 11, 2011 at 4:52 pm

Oh, god, that's where Robert Bobb ended up, isn't it. I'd vaguely missed hearing his name on the "local news" segment of DC public radio, because, seriously? Robert Bobb? You know that third "b" is just an affectation.

SayItWithWookies March 11, 2011 at 5:05 pm

Bobb was the city manager here in Richmond, VA and then moved to Oakland right when Jerry Brown became mayor where there was some fight over which one of them got to run the place. He seemed pretty competent, but the Richmond school board kept getting nailed for corruption, so maybe he wasn't that effective.
Here's an interesting rundown on some of his career: http://voiceofdetroit.net/?p=5320

Gopherit March 11, 2011 at 4:26 pm

You have to admit…..when only one guy has a say in anything, it really is smaller government.

All hail the dicktator.

fuflans March 11, 2011 at 4:35 pm

well, only one man to blame.

also.

SexySmurf March 11, 2011 at 4:26 pm

Someone needs to give this nerd a swirly or an atomic wedgie.

SorosBot March 11, 2011 at 4:33 pm

Us nerds get picked on in childhood and as teens, but most of us manage to live through it and become well-adjusted adults, with the experience often making us feel sympathy for other victims of bullies. Some, however, instead fill with rage and desire for vengeance, and if they rise to positions of power abuse it to make others' lives living hells.

baconzgood March 11, 2011 at 4:34 pm

We called them "Wegie Jacksons"

Extempor[redacted] March 11, 2011 at 5:01 pm

We called a "Wedgie Jackson" a "Yankee".

randcoolcatdaddy March 11, 2011 at 4:30 pm

After the news this week, I'm ready for a few relaxing shots of vodka and some kitten videos. This incredible rush of corruption, gross negligence, and fascism reminds me of one of my Appalachian born and bred grandfather's favorite sayings: "This makes me so mad, it makes my ass want to chew tobacco."

DustBowlBlues March 11, 2011 at 4:55 pm

I have no idea what he meant by that saying, but I like it, anyway.

karen March 12, 2011 at 10:14 am

You had one of those too? Mine was from West Virginia. Whenever someone dressed up all fancy he'd say you looked "Slicker'n'shit cut with a club." Ahhh I miss him.

SorosBot March 11, 2011 at 4:31 pm

Now I'm no expert in the Michigan Constitution, but find it very hard to believe this could possibly be Constitutional.

comptoneffect March 11, 2011 at 5:37 pm

It's Constitutional because they say it is.

jakegittes March 12, 2011 at 11:13 am

Where in the Constitution does it say you can't be unconstitutional? Huh? Where does it?

HistoriCat March 12, 2011 at 3:37 pm

"Constitutional" – that's so quaint.

Nopantsmcgee March 11, 2011 at 4:31 pm

Lifelong resident of the mitten here.

Michigan Democrats are a beaten, pessimistic lot. I hope this rally's them (us).

And here's one resident that doesn't mind the population shrinking. More beach for me. We just need to adjust for the shrinking tax base, is all.

OC_Tsunami_Surf_Serf March 11, 2011 at 4:32 pm

Michigan is one of those places famous for Reagan Democrats.

I ask them: Had enough? Do you see that the Repubs don't really give a fuck about you, your job, your mortgage, your kids?

Come back to the light.

GhostBuggy March 11, 2011 at 6:14 pm

Yeah, as a local boy, I really don't get this "voting Republican" nonsense around here. We almost always go blue for the President, but local elections usually go to Repubs. How many times does the GOP have to show itself as the enemy of the working man before the fucking voters around this dump get a damn clue?

Aw, that's a little harsh. But still.

OhNoGuy March 11, 2011 at 10:59 pm

When you ask: Had enuff? What do they say?

SexySmurf March 11, 2011 at 4:33 pm

He better watch it; all those teabaggers screaming about no taxation without representation are going to be pissed. Oh, wait Rick Snyder's white. Never mind.

snoopyfan2010 March 11, 2011 at 7:28 pm

Ah, but he isn't taxing them, he's just taking away their right to choose their government. That's totally different. I've never heard anything about no governing without representation. Have you???

WhatTheHeck March 11, 2011 at 4:34 pm

A nerd seeking ultimate power. Now what can go wrong?

Michigan, remember Syndrome from “The Incredibles.” Be ye warned.

fuflans March 11, 2011 at 4:34 pm

this should go well.

[redacted]byreality March 11, 2011 at 4:35 pm

When Democracy is outlawed, only outlaws will be Democrats.

DustBowlBlues March 11, 2011 at 4:58 pm

That is so excellent. Did you make it up? Because I'd like to know from whom I'm going to steal it and put it on my FB page, on the off chance a single Republic on my "friends" list hasn't defriended me yet. Or whatever they call it.

[redacted]byreality March 11, 2011 at 5:25 pm

It's mine as far as I know–Just modified the “only outlaws will have guns” argument of the NRA. Feel free to use it freely. Only a slight surcharge for each pageview. But if it turns into a moneymaker bumper sticker, t-shirt, whatever, I want my cut.Now you're giving me ideas.

Jukesgrrl March 11, 2011 at 4:36 pm

Another kochwhore.

baconzgood March 11, 2011 at 4:38 pm

Tee-Hee
"Kochwhore"

Slim_Pickins March 11, 2011 at 4:39 pm

This no country for the sane.

Oldskool_ March 11, 2011 at 4:54 pm

No Country For Old Dems.

[redacted]byreality March 11, 2011 at 4:40 pm

Downfister alert.

user-of-owls March 11, 2011 at 4:41 pm

The new law signed by Putin Snyder gives the president governor the right to appoint governors mayors and dissolve regional legislatures local governments if they refuse to confirm his nominees submit to his every fucking whim.

With apologies to the original 2004 Moscow Times article.

wee[redacted] March 11, 2011 at 11:15 pm

Shit, I gotta finish-up here at the orifice. Misread your signed by Putin as signed by Palin. After I get the keyboard cleaned-up after my gag reflex oopsie got go home and pack. Off tomorrow to Tejas. woopie….

baconzgood March 11, 2011 at 4:41 pm

Damn! I was briefly at a 109 pee but trolls took me down a peg.

not that Dewey March 11, 2011 at 7:14 pm

The trolls and intensedebate have conspired to ensure that I never get above 92. You elitists and your "triple-digit-pee-scores"!

Limeylizzie March 11, 2011 at 9:08 pm

And I am stuck at 98 -never to hit a century- random and incomprehensible cricket metaphor.

Fukui_sanYesOta March 11, 2011 at 9:49 pm

It's a sticky wicket and the troll is bowling a googly.

Limeylizzie March 11, 2011 at 10:02 pm

Are you playng Silly-Mid-Off or Silly-Mid-on and have you ever bowled a maiden over?

[redacted]89048 March 14, 2011 at 12:38 am

Since you're a Brit, your pee is measured in Celsius.

PublicLuxury March 11, 2011 at 4:41 pm

Does Liberty University offer a class on implementing Fascism? Where the hell did these fuckin' freaks come from? Has the 'south' risen and I missed it?

HistoriCat March 12, 2011 at 3:46 pm

Maybe they have a textbook, something like My Struggle – doesn't that just sound like the kind of book which would convey the fierce determination required?

imissopus March 13, 2011 at 1:05 am

I bet it sounds even fiercer in a more strident language…something like German, say.

Gorillionaire March 11, 2011 at 4:42 pm

This is a great opportunity for a scam artist. Just roll into town in a rented Mercedes SUV, wear a nice suit and say "Hey I'm Jack Lawunorder, a "security consultant" and I'll run your town and your police force for just ten million dollars." Not that anyone has possibly thought of this already.

horsedreamer_1 March 11, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Camaro Nova March 12, 2011 at 9:00 pm

My that was one of the best stories of 2009. That guy is coming back for sure …

user-of-owls March 11, 2011 at 4:42 pm

The new law signed by Putin Snyder gives the president governor the right to appoint governors mayors and dissolve regional legislatures local governments if they refuse to confirm his nominees submit to his every fucking whim.

With apologies to the original 2004 Moscow Times article.

calibrit March 11, 2011 at 5:44 pm

You don't understand. If people are allowed to express their own opinions, they might sometimes express opinions that differ from the ones Republicans KNOW to be right. That is UNACCEPTABLE!!!!!1!! and for their own good, they have to be silenced. Resistance is futile!

neiltheblaze March 11, 2011 at 4:45 pm

So – is Michigan another state where stupid white voters are feeling buyers remorse over a big Republican office holder? If so – sweet.

It sucks they have to put up with him, though. But elections have consequences. I think I heard that once.

vodkamuppet March 11, 2011 at 6:04 pm

No. This is getting zero press coverage here. I would e pect the teabaggers' heads to explode over this but I haven't heard a fucking peep, even from the one paultard left on my Facebook.

not that Dewey March 11, 2011 at 7:15 pm

Buyers' Remorse is the new Destitution.

jqheywood March 11, 2011 at 4:46 pm

I think it is high time we reminded this asshole about the United States Constitution, Article IV, Section 4, to wit: "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government . . . ." And no, teatards and teahadists, "Reppublican Form of Government" does not mean the Republicans get to rule by fiat. Sheesh.

FlyOverGirl March 11, 2011 at 5:44 pm

Duh. Republicans only drive Ameri-cun cars.

vodkamuppet March 11, 2011 at 6:17 pm

That's really funny. I forgot what website I was on but I was reading some teabagger say he doesn't drive American cars because they're made by union thugs so he only drives, wait for it….. German cars!

[redacted]89048 March 11, 2011 at 6:33 pm

I drive a certain high performance union-made car, and the anti-union sentiments in the comments on the brand-specific websites are just adorable.

vodkamuppet March 11, 2011 at 8:01 pm

If I didn't know any better, I'd say the teabaggers are all ill-informed, drooling idiots without a clue as to what the words coming out of their fat fucking faces actually mean but that can't possibly be the case.

comrad_darkness March 11, 2011 at 11:00 pm

Germany, where even the mice infesting the auto manufacturing plant are unionized.

vodkamuppet March 12, 2011 at 12:41 am

Thus proving my theory that teabaggers are immune to irony.

FlyOverGirl March 12, 2011 at 12:14 am

But the Nazis are a bunch of liberal socialists. Consider my mind blown!

mayor_quimby March 12, 2011 at 7:55 pm

I believe audi stands for auto union something or other.

Rod_Torfulson March 12, 2011 at 3:43 pm

Some idiot commenter (go figure) over at Slate said that the teachers in WI got what they deserved for all of those years in which they purchased Japanese cars…

OhNoGuy March 11, 2011 at 11:05 pm

"Reppublican Form of Government" does not mean the Republicans get to rule by fiat.

Ahhhhhh…. have you met our Supreme Court?

Doktor[redacted] March 12, 2011 at 3:24 pm

Fix It Again, Tony

genxr March 11, 2011 at 4:46 pm

That Gaddafi really knows how to deal with unions.

Tommmcatt March 11, 2011 at 4:49 pm

Geez, why don't we just light the congress on fire, blame the democrats, and start the goose-step parades already? Comeon, Snyder, you big pussy, you know you want to.

Extempor[redacted] March 11, 2011 at 4:50 pm

"The people of Dearborn will greet us as liberators."

- Michigan Governor Rick Snyder

MadBrahms March 11, 2011 at 5:23 pm

They will hail our arrival with roses and, uhh, carburetors.

Fukui_sanYesOta March 11, 2011 at 9:54 pm

The area in the south and the west and the north that teabagger forces control is substantial. It happens not to be the area where jobs were dispersed. We know where they are. They're in the area around Lansing and Kalamazoo and east, west, south and north somewhat.

heathenette March 12, 2011 at 1:57 am

Perfect.

Wadisay March 11, 2011 at 4:51 pm

Jeeze, if Osama bin Laden announced that he was going to destroy local governments and the right to unionize in America, somebody would send a cruise missile or two after him. Why does this guy get a pass?

Jukesgrrl March 11, 2011 at 5:58 pm

FTW.

ChessieNefercat March 11, 2011 at 6:48 pm

He's white. Sheesh.

MadBrahms March 11, 2011 at 4:54 pm

""Let's be prepared; let's be proactive instead of reactive" – Rick Snyder

"The tradition of the oppressed teaches us that the ‘state of emergency’ in which we live is not the exception but the rule." – Walter Benjamin

DangerHelvetica March 11, 2011 at 4:55 pm

"I've just received word that the Governor has dissolved the council permanently. The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away."

SorosBot March 11, 2011 at 5:22 pm

So this is how liberty dies… with thunderous applause.

baconzgood March 11, 2011 at 4:58 pm

"Rick Snyder's a fuck wad"

-Capt. Obvious-

Jerri March 11, 2011 at 4:58 pm

And when all this scorched earth government fails to bring the jerbs and get things back on track financially, will people who have been duped by these Republicans wake up and decide maybe those Democrats aren't so bad after all, with their (generally speaking) "how about we try to help people" policies? No. They will cling tighter to the Patriotic Teat of the GOP and blame "obstructionist Democrats" for somehow preventing their terrible policies from working.

Good christ, who else needs a drink?

ingloriousbytch March 11, 2011 at 5:22 pm

Already working on it. *hic*

ShaveTheWhales March 11, 2011 at 7:25 pm

You're leaving out a step:

When the situation becomes totally fucked up beyond hope of repair, the electorate will elect Democrats to fix it. When said Democrats are unable to magically create jobs and balanced budgets and unicorns without raising any tax, the electorate will then call them losers and re-elect the Kochpublicans, because why not?

See, this is where you get the sweet, sweet irony.

Jerri March 11, 2011 at 8:21 pm

Ah, you're right. And a crucial step it is indeed.

Welp, the ol' U.S. of A had an okay run, I guess.

Lascauxcaveman March 11, 2011 at 9:57 pm

Meh, except for the jazz, rock n' roll and baseball, the whole thing was a bit overrated.

MarshallBanana March 12, 2011 at 12:49 pm

We did stop those Nazi people, I hear. Although I realize now it's because they were stealing our idea.

[redacted]89048 March 12, 2011 at 12:14 pm

We still get to keep our guns though, right?

Doktor[redacted] March 12, 2011 at 12:44 pm

Even better–we'll all be encouraged to get more guns, and the few remaining restrictions will be repealed.

Cf the Great State of Idaho, where the Lege is debating a proposal to make it illegal for colleges to ban guns from campus. God knows I'd grade freshman comp papers more carefully if my students are packing heat. An armed student is an A student.

Dashboard_Jesus March 13, 2011 at 12:50 am

wash, rinse, repeat…

notreelyhelping March 11, 2011 at 4:59 pm

I wonder if this will upset Michael Moore?

MegPasadena March 11, 2011 at 5:08 pm

He was on the Rachel Maddow show and said this is WAR!

Negropolis March 12, 2011 at 12:48 am

He so pissed, I was fearing for Rchael's safety. He had that look in his eye as if he was just about to lose it.

DustBowlBlues March 11, 2011 at 5:00 pm

In a state that would have no auto industry left if it weren't for the UAW and the Democrats, the irony is rich in this one.

gef05 March 11, 2011 at 5:00 pm

A large part of my life is spent editing, so I scan online more than I actually read. Usually I'm pretty accurate, especially on a site I know well – after all, context is king.

Which is why I read the headline as:

Michigan Gov Giving Himself Power To Take Over Cities, Destroy Their People

tessiee March 11, 2011 at 10:08 pm

You're not too far wrong.

comrad_darkness March 11, 2011 at 11:04 pm

Someone needs to tell the nerd that he isn't just playing Sim City.

elviouslyqueer March 11, 2011 at 5:01 pm

Shorter Snyder: I was for smaller government before I was against it.

ChessieNefercat March 11, 2011 at 6:51 pm

Petulant Snyder: It is smaller government. Me and a few of my closest friends (no limits ontheir compensation but it's okay cuz they're not union thugs) will be the government.

Lascauxcaveman March 11, 2011 at 10:00 pm

Truthful Snyder: Me and few of my friends are gonna kick out the union thugs, accept big compensation for running things, and not be able to get shit done. Hope you weren't too fond of paved streets, or like, schools and stuff.

ifthethunderdontgetya March 11, 2011 at 5:03 pm

Texas ought to be lesson enough to the country about what happens when you let Republicans run things.

But let's make no mistake…it was the money from the Koch brothers, the Chamber of Commerce, and from Rove's other corporate bagmen that put these governors in office.

Thanks a lot, 'limited government' Supreme Court justices.

P.S. Guess who has a birthday tomorrow? That's right, Hitler Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, born March 11, 1936. That's pretty old, I'm thinking. I sure hope he's in good health and doesn't have a heart attack or a stroke or choke to death on a piece of meat.
~

Mumbletypeg March 11, 2011 at 5:35 pm

That 'Texas' link you shared. I'm glad I took time to read it. A sort of "locale that time forgot (to care about)." Thanks for posting it.

comrad_darkness March 11, 2011 at 11:06 pm

Texas, also home to the Feds spending more per capita on health care for the absolutely lowest return for the dollar.

Doktor[redacted] March 12, 2011 at 12:04 am

Texas: The National Laboratory for Bad Government –Molly Ivins

onemoretime79 March 12, 2011 at 12:05 am

Feel bad enough about my texas accent now that I've moved on to another place – that I wish I could lose it, most times.

People around here always think I'm from the south. bleck.

Also. I wish I could be in Austin right about now. SXSW baby.

El Pinche March 12, 2011 at 1:52 am

Texas… I think they're building a new Super Lowes/Church of Christ mega-plex down my street.

Angry_Marmot March 12, 2011 at 8:44 am

Next to the strip bar and pawn shop?

JoeBiteme March 11, 2011 at 5:05 pm

I only have 25, but you all are welcome to 24 of them…

Lionel[redacted]Esq March 11, 2011 at 5:07 pm

Well, thank the gods that Republicans are not forcing people to discuss this for a year, like with something important like health care.

Come here a minute March 11, 2011 at 5:14 pm

Good point. All of 2009 the Republicans were complaining about health care being Jammed Down Their Throats — the new governors aren't even giving us a chance to open our mouths first.

ChessieNefercat March 11, 2011 at 6:58 pm

"…the new governors aren't even giving us a chance to open our mouths first."

Maybe what we never understood about the Republicans/Teabaggers was that they would have been fine with the health care bill if it had only been Pounded Up Their Asses. No need to open one's mouth!

You know, like all the horrifying bills they are currently ramming, jamming, and pounding and what-have-you into us now.

SmutBoffin March 11, 2011 at 5:07 pm

Jesus Hitler Christ. The Teabaggers shouted out FASCISM so many times that the word lost all of its meaning. Then, when the actual fascists are voted into power, no one can recognize their actions as being counter to democratic governance.

Buckminster March 11, 2011 at 5:09 pm

Mussolini lives and he's in Michigan!

nounverb911 March 11, 2011 at 7:01 pm

I thought Moosolini lived in Wassilla.

tessiee March 11, 2011 at 10:10 pm

Oh, yeah, right — like there would be trains in the Motor City!

harry_palmer March 11, 2011 at 5:10 pm

Someone's please explain how this all equates to "Don't tread on me."

SorosBot March 11, 2011 at 5:19 pm

It's very simple; what the teabaggers were actually saying was "lay down so we can tread on you." In the authoritarian mindset, "freedom" actually means freedom to force the other, lesser people (black and brown folk, women, non-Christians, poors) to do whatever you say; they want "freedom" to force women to bear their babies after they rape them, to force everyone to acknowledge the superiority of the Christian god, and to own black people again, or at least make them move to the back of the bus and stop voting.

harry_palmer March 11, 2011 at 5:30 pm

Well said – and if you pick out the right passages, the Bible also gives them the freedom to impose slavery on their inferiors – which is what the Framers intended, doncha know.

mourningnmerica March 11, 2011 at 5:12 pm

Fascism is here. Democracy kind of slipped away on us. Get ready for this all over the country. They say the price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Well people, fascism has arrived.

karen March 11, 2011 at 10:53 pm

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." – Sinclair Lewis

Pragmatist2 March 11, 2011 at 5:13 pm

The American Middle Class has formed a circular firing squad and is ordering more ammunition.

i_like_tigers March 11, 2011 at 5:15 pm

Oooo I want an openly puppet leader, too. No fair!

Steverino247 March 11, 2011 at 5:23 pm

Douche bag! Douche bag! Douche bag!

SorosBot March 11, 2011 at 5:23 pm

And you know who else asked for special emergency powers to destroy his political enemies?

Fukui_sanYesOta March 11, 2011 at 8:16 pm

Charlie Sheen?

iburl March 11, 2011 at 9:31 pm

Rick Perry.

SayItWithWookies March 11, 2011 at 9:41 pm

Bernie Kerik?

Lascauxcaveman March 11, 2011 at 10:03 pm

George W. Bush Dick Cheney?

trampndirtdown March 12, 2011 at 1:50 am

Palpatine?

vodkamuppet March 12, 2011 at 2:03 am

He-Man?

Lionel[redacted]Esq March 13, 2011 at 11:23 pm

Jesus?

billy_reuben March 14, 2011 at 5:44 am

Chef Boyardee?

Negropolis March 14, 2011 at 6:15 am

Senator Palpatine?

mavenmaven March 11, 2011 at 5:24 pm

The reason is because there hasn't been a governor hanged upside down in a public square yet in American history. Looks like that might change soon. http://home.comcast.net/~lowe9101/mussolini/d7.ht

Steverino247 March 11, 2011 at 5:35 pm

Let's take a moment here to remember that Enron and fellow travellers were behind the recall of Governor Davis in California and met to organize that effort soon after Davis' election. Tell me this hasn't been done with the assholes currently in office in Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin, etc. Of course it was. I wouldn't be surprised if Scalia and Thomas were on the guest lists, too. This is a very well orchestrated effort to replace democratic values with fascist ones.

What I don't get is why there is no national effort to push this back. Hello, Mr. President?

Come here a minute March 11, 2011 at 5:58 pm

There is the recall campaign by the Wisconsin Democratic party, linked from MoveOn and Daily Kos.

MegPasadena March 12, 2011 at 10:10 am

Also, not every state has a recall mechanism.

HistoriCat March 11, 2011 at 5:39 pm

"Gentlemen – to evil!"

carlgt1 March 11, 2011 at 5:43 pm

if the Dems had an analogue to this in '08, by now we would have national universal public option healthcare, and nationalized the banks & oil companies.

vodkamuppet March 11, 2011 at 5:46 pm

As a resident of Detroit, the most fucked up thing is that I had to find out about this from Rachel Maddow because the local news didn't cover it. But I am getting updates every 15 minutes on that kid that fell down a manhole because, y'know, that's important and affects everyone.

On a completely unrelated note, does anyone want to give me a job in Manhattan and an apartment in a rent controlled building?

Jason_inthe_Peg March 11, 2011 at 6:32 pm

Yes, but I live in Canada and can only upfist you and wish you best of luck.

Limeylizzie March 12, 2011 at 7:16 am

You can crash at my place and can sleep in my bed ,when I am out of town, which is very frequently as I am a bi-coastal character. Can't help with a job though.

GortRay March 11, 2011 at 5:52 pm

When I was a young'un the definition of "nerd" in my state was someone who sits in a bathtub blowing farts and biting the bubbles. I wonder if that's what he means.

[redacted]89048 March 11, 2011 at 6:48 pm

That's what we called dorks.

Lascauxcaveman March 11, 2011 at 10:06 pm

Technically, that's a twerp.

karen March 11, 2011 at 10:57 pm

What about a fartknocker? Beavis and Butthead tought me well.

keepem_sikanpor March 11, 2011 at 5:53 pm

I don't even live in Michigan and I feel violated. Not in a good way.

Come here a minute March 11, 2011 at 6:09 pm

Holy cow, I just saw a very passionate report by a local news reporter about a labor union/management issue. Since it was a program in Our Nation's Capital, it was obviously about the NFL.

DashboardBuddha March 11, 2011 at 6:14 pm

remove locally elected officials

You know…I'm getting a whole lead-up to the American Revolution tarring and feathering the King's appointed tax collector vibe now.

vodkamuppet March 11, 2011 at 6:27 pm

When I read remove elected officials I get a sinister vibe, like he meant to say eliminate elected officials.

DashboardBuddha March 11, 2011 at 6:30 pm

No man, no problem – J. Stalin.

Yeah…you and Bluestate are right.

Bluestatelibel March 11, 2011 at 6:28 pm

remove locally elected officials

…I'm getting more of a Soviet Union into Afghanistan vibe.

Tommmcatt March 11, 2011 at 6:56 pm

All this talk about vibes is making me horny.

horsedreamer_1 March 12, 2011 at 8:29 pm

It's only making me feel funky.

keepem_sikanpor March 11, 2011 at 8:47 pm

Deja vu all over again.

Bluestatelibel March 11, 2011 at 6:27 pm

Well, at least we can at dispel the notion that nerds are basically just socially inept, but harmless. Behind the glasses and bad clothes lurk the hearts of despots.

not that Dewey March 11, 2011 at 6:32 pm

…and require that those appointed to run school districts have some background in education…

New Mexico is experimenting with this strategy. We're already 47th in just about every metric, and now the Palinite Bagger governor wants to do away with (a) education funding and (b) people who know how the hell to administer education. What could possibly go wrong?

and don't it make my blue state…red

Dr_pangloss March 11, 2011 at 6:50 pm

What is the definition of fascism again?

Come here a minute March 11, 2011 at 6:52 pm

Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results? No, I think that's something else.

starfanglednut March 13, 2011 at 12:05 pm

alcoholism

not that Dewey March 11, 2011 at 7:05 pm

Wrapped in a flag, etc, etc?

glamourdammerung March 13, 2011 at 3:28 pm

What is the definition of fascism again?

Whatever the teabaggers dislike at that specific time, of course.

vodkamuppet March 14, 2011 at 12:25 am

According to the free dictionary app on my iPhone:

Fascism
Noun-That thing you are doing that I do not like

qwerty42 March 11, 2011 at 6:56 pm

Jack, from former Wonkette editor Jim Newell at Gawker:

The State Department is urging Americans not to travel to Japan unless absolutely necessary, saying aftershocks could continue for "weeks."

But if you are do go, hope all is well.

Jack Stuef March 11, 2011 at 7:09 pm

IS THAT A CHALLENGE, STATE DEPARTMENT?

Isn't this exciting? Can't wait to get there.

Come here a minute March 11, 2011 at 7:39 pm

Get a brain, Moran!

Lascauxcaveman March 11, 2011 at 11:06 pm

And get candles. Tokyo is mostly w/o electricity for now, from the news articles I've read. They are desperately trying to shut down five damaged nuke plants at the moment, before the reactors go critical.

BTW, have a nice vaycay.

Angry_Marmot March 12, 2011 at 8:53 am

Kaiju FTW.

horsedreamer_1 March 12, 2011 at 8:32 pm

What amazes me is Japan, a country that took two atomic assaults, has taken so to nuclear power, while in the U.S., that never faced actual nuclear assault & which suffered the Three Mile Island meltdown due negligence (not some threat inherent in nuclear energy), we run from it.

We need bigger balls.

trampndirtdown March 12, 2011 at 1:52 am

Pack your lead undies.

[redacted]Ali March 11, 2011 at 7:20 pm

I second that. Good luck, Jack, and G-d speed.

Warpde March 12, 2011 at 8:42 pm

Luck to you Jack.

Question.

Where the hell are they gonna land the plane?

[redacted]Ali March 11, 2011 at 7:01 pm

Just found out in my state they are trying to pass a state bill that would tax teachers, first responders, and prison workers — they are all union, I guess? This is fucking insane. I called my state senator (after 5pm on a Friday, nice try) but he is a good ol' boy conservative so that call's probably going into the circular file.

Fuck me – a commentor on another blog today said this was looking more like a coup d'etat. I have to agree. Wonketteers, please let me join you in announcing that we no longer live in a democracy.

I'm going to need some stronger booze this weekend.

WOLVERINES!!!!!!11

donner_froh March 11, 2011 at 7:05 pm

Mubarak ruled under a state of emergency that lasted for 30 years.

Thatcher destroyed the industrial capacity of England in order to break the unions.

Some of these Midwest governors like Walker and Snyder have learned from the best.

PubOption March 11, 2011 at 9:39 pm

Thatcher also said "There is no such thing as society.", sounds to me like the teabaggers creed.

glamourdammerung March 11, 2011 at 7:31 pm

So does this finally kill the stupid nonsense about how "both parties are the same"?

Lascauxcaveman March 11, 2011 at 11:07 pm

B-b-but Ralph Nader says…

Doktor[redacted] March 12, 2011 at 12:00 am

NadGravKucini 9/11 TIMECUBE controlled media Tower 7 lumpy gravy!!!!

Angry_Marmot March 12, 2011 at 8:55 am

In five years, Jon Stewart will be indistinguishable from Bob Hope. You heard it here first.

snoopyfan2010 March 11, 2011 at 7:34 pm

So, if Steve Jobs wants to start a new career…….

zhubajie March 11, 2011 at 7:35 pm

I doubt this fool is educated enough to speak Mandarin.

NorthStarSpanx March 11, 2011 at 8:05 pm

What's with Governor Snyder giving blood? Isn't that socialism? Collecting and giving free blood to people awful enough to need an infusion?

horsedreamer_1 March 12, 2011 at 8:35 pm

Exactly. I mean, I should have just been let to die when it turned out the genes supplied me by my parents resulted in a weak ascending aortic root.

Though, surviving six weeks with a torn, then tamponnaded, aneurysm before finally getting surgery maybe says I am not genetically inferior, but, in point of fact, have Adonis DNA.

I am the Ubermensch the GOP extols… & which they are not.

ShaveTheWhales March 11, 2011 at 8:15 pm

I know there are some lawyer Wonketeers, so I haz a question. I'm under the impression that there is this thing called contract law, and that a fairly fundamental concept is that one party to a valid contract cannot arbitrarily renege on the contract. As I understand it, that feature is pretty much what makes it a "contract".

Now, I also understand that there are legal ways of breaking contracts — if there was fraud or coercion, for example. A bankruptcy court can also force modification (or cancellation?) of contract terms, I believe.

And, I suppose it's possible that Michigan's contract law, or the specific contracts at issue, might contain language that says that the government party can break the contract if it feels like it — but I doubt that this is really the case.

So, eventually, here's my question(z). If Gov Doofus here is actually threatening the elected representatives of local entities with taking over said entities unless the representatives break the law by breaking contracts, isn't this extortion? (Another I'm-not-a-lawyer question: I think it's a crime to try to force someone to commit a crime? Amirite?)

It's a bit of a puzzlement. It's always seemed that one of the big philosophical premises of the Libertarian / TeaTard set has been "sanctity of contract". That's why all those dummies who got sucked into predatory home loan CONTRACTS are entirely responsible for their own foreclosures, and deserve to be fucked over, after all.

"Sanctity of contract, except those we don't like" just doesn't carry the same moral force, you know.

Anyhow, as a native-born (though long absent) Cheesehead, I have to say that I am not even slightly delighted to learn that the neighbors to the East (and North) have voted in fuckers that are attempting to fuck over their state even more thoroughly than are the fuckers that were voted in by the voters of my native state.

Schadenfreude is impossible in the face of so much Schaden.

ChessieNefercat March 12, 2011 at 9:28 am

"…"sanctity of contract". That's why all those dummies who got sucked into predatory home loan CONTRACTS are entirely responsible for their own foreclosures, and deserve to be fucked over, after all. "

And why those bankers were entitled to their "bonuses." They had contracts!

MilwaukeeKent March 12, 2011 at 10:16 am

Know little about law but I believe one of the few things that voids a contract is bankruptcy. Also it seems to me that if he gets anywhere NEAR enacting this insanity every citizen of Michigan, whether directly affected or not, might well have grounds to sue for some manner of civil rights violation — you can't just remove duly elected local officials can you? I mean how can the voters, their votes now rendered meaningless, not have some manner of grounds?

MilwaukeeKent March 12, 2011 at 10:21 am

Unless they somehow back-doored an "Emergency Executive Action Immunity Act". What else do these maniacs have up their sleeves? Walker opens fire on the unions and Snyder blazes a new trail attacking local elected governments, what other evil plan will be beta-tested by some other Tea Party Governor?

HistoriCat March 12, 2011 at 8:20 pm

IANAL but I flirted with law school before realizing I wasn't cut out to bullshit for a living. From the case law I remember reading, "sanctity of contract" is strong – except for the multitude of exceptions which leave major holes in that sanctity. And of course you can find any number of loopholes to argue over, especially if you have a lot more time and money than the other guy.

the_problem_child March 13, 2011 at 11:54 pm

Hope that your state constitution sanctifies contracts. Otherwise, the common law of contracts can be overridden by the legislature.

philpjfry March 11, 2011 at 8:19 pm

A Country gets the leaders it deserves. Serves all you fucks who were too lazy to vote, or think for yourselves right. Yeah snow cunt I am looking at you and Michelle and Glen and Rush and Chris Christy. All you lying cocksuckers who mislead the gullable for your own selfish ends. Hope you enjoy hell. On second thought, no I don't.

ttommyunger March 11, 2011 at 8:30 pm

Patience, my pretties. These Kochsuckers specialize in over-reach. Eventually, even the brain-dead Ditto and Beck-Heads will feel that big Republican dick up their collective asses and realize they have fucked up big time. We still have several States with half-way intelligent legislatures and Barry has the Veto Pen, so just let the pendulum swing. Do what you can, but don't shit a wildcat over these hijinks, they're just giddy with power for the time being.

Lascauxcaveman March 11, 2011 at 11:10 pm

Heh. I hope you're right, old timer.

ttommyunger March 12, 2011 at 9:26 am

Me too!

ShaveTheWhales March 12, 2011 at 12:37 am

ttommy, I hope you're right, but I'm seeing the pendulum swing as a chaotic attractor around an ever-more-stratified society. The last time the fucker swung significantly left was about 1932. There was a decent jerk in that direction in 1965, but since then we've just vibrated to the right.

What I'm afraid of is that the red states are getting redder, and for the next couple of years a bunch of "purple" states have gone crimson. And, thanks to the Framers' short-term astuteness, we have a national legislature in which California and New York — which contain 18.3% of the country's population — get exactly 4% of the Senators.

I will wait, in suspended admiration, for the big swing to the left.

ttommyunger March 12, 2011 at 9:39 am

I'll wait too, but my clock is running out (at 70). I don't have a lot of hope for real improvement in my remaining years. Two things are in favor of a more liberal bent: 1. The continued inevitable “browning” of not only America, but Europe as well, and 2. The fact that the Repugs historically over-play their hand. They will materially and personally damage their Base over time and then the reptilian stem of its nervous system will react unfavorably toward the threat to its shelter, food, peace of mind and survival instinct.

Rotundo_ March 12, 2011 at 11:03 am

The one hope we have as a unified country is the demographic changes we are witnessing: Hispanic, African and Asian americans are the salvation of this country-We are evolving as a country. I think that some white folks see this as an zero sum game, and that when people of color are moving in that the euro folk lose out. It doesn't work that way. MLK was right, the rich and racist folks are on the losing side of this argument. Short of genocide, which will be problematic with a society this well armed, demographics win.

ttommyunger March 12, 2011 at 11:18 am

BINGO!

vodkamuppet March 12, 2011 at 1:09 am

I hope this is the case but I don't think so. It's no coincidence that IN, MI, OH, and WI all have union busting measures up for debate. They're adapting the southern strategy for the Midwest and they're willing to take the short term hits if it gives them the long term benefit of destroying the dems union GOTV infrastructure. They know their base will simply blame the left for anything bad that happens and they're counting on the publics deficient short term memory, the 2010 midterms proved that. Still, there is hope that the fallout from this will energize progressives and force democrats to actually stand up for the shit they campaign on. I'm probably being overly optimistic on that last one though.

ttommyunger March 12, 2011 at 9:51 am

We'll just have to see how bad it gets. The Right doesn't quite understand that while they are counting on Law Enforcement to carry out their programs that: 1. They can't paint teachers and clerks as Communist or unpatriotic as they've been able to do in the past. 2. A large number of law enforcement types have mothers, sisters, brothers, sons, daughters, etc. who work in these government jobs. It will be difficult to demonize this group of protestors. I've worn the riot gear, headed a Federal SWAT Team, pulled riot duty. My target entities were always anti-war or (I'm ashamed to admit, Black). I'm not sure the Repugs have thought their strategy through; past the bean-counting part of it. If they lose the wholehearted support of Law Enforcement, they lose. Pinkerton types can get away with their tactics against a population which is essentially disenfranchised, but not a group like government employees here in America. In the final analysis, Americans are armed to the teeth; Second Amendment Solutions do not favor only the fringe Right.

TsunamiAli March 12, 2011 at 7:54 am

I'll just echo what the other Wonketts said and hope to hell you are the voice of reason in this otherwise crappy and depressing post.

ChessieNefercat March 12, 2011 at 9:33 am

I hope you are right also, but the Republicans have demonstrated enormous skill in convincing the 'tards that yes, there is a big dick up their asses, but that it feels oh so good, and even more wonderful things will happen next, if they just stay bent over like that.

ttommyunger March 12, 2011 at 10:17 am

A good many of these unfortunate folk are biased against Blacks and Browns. My guess this is due to parental influence, social environment, past negative experience (bullying) or fear (crime, loss of jobs, loss of women). The Right gives their prejudice an acceptable outlet. They will die with their hatred intact. Another less hateful group dreams of “Success by Association”. They see the wealthy as the winners in this American game of life and they not only want to associate themselves with the winners, they feel chances of they themselves becoming ultimate winners are enhanced by such association. Guilt by association is far more real than success by association, but you can't tell them that, they have their dreams, and by God, reality better not try to get in the way. These people have always comprised about a third of our general population. I can't see them winning the Country over, regardless of the power of the Uber-Wealthy subsidizing and using their loyalties.

ChessieNefercat March 12, 2011 at 10:37 am

“They see the wealthy as the winners in this American game of life and they not only want to associate themselves with the winners, they feel chances of they themselves becoming ultimate winners are enhanced by such association.”I think you are absolutely right. “Yeah, I could be a millionaire someday…” so of course, they want to protect those people; they could be one of them someday.Too bad they don't see a far more reasonable and attainable goal; through hard work and education become a tradesperson, teacher, medical person, public safety person, etc., etc. Nope, they leapfrog right over them and see the those evil middle class public worker types taking away their potential millionaire income.

Chet Kincaid March 12, 2011 at 2:05 pm

Is this not exactly the same as the inner city street kid forgoing a worthless job at McDonald's in order to get rich quick or die trying as a drug hustler? The oligarchs are now making government jobs as worthless as slinging hamburgers, while their "base" glorifies the lifestyle of their oppressors. And black/brown people are supposed to be pathologically ruining this country?? What a joke.

Rotundo_ March 12, 2011 at 11:07 am

"Shit a wildcat", that is a phrase I will adopt ttommy! RIght up there with "raining like a cow pissing on a flat rock" and "feeling like one was eaten by wild dogs and pooped off a cliff". Verbal treasures, they are.

ttommyunger March 12, 2011 at 11:20 am

I only wish I could claim to be its author. An asshole, guilty 'yo Honor; a liar, notsomuch.

DemmeFatale March 12, 2011 at 11:53 am

How about my Texan uncle's titty obsession:
"It's colder than a witch's tit in here!" and,
"I've seen bigger tits on a boar hog!" (a playful(?!) reference to me as a budding 12 year old).

not that Dewey March 12, 2011 at 10:29 pm

Does he say "tits up" when he means "dead"? 'Cause I've heard that.

BZ1 March 11, 2011 at 8:51 pm

Seriously, do you sense a confluence here?!

PresBeeblebrox March 11, 2011 at 9:06 pm

Well, then. Bye bye, Flint. While they're at it, they might as well merge Detroit into Wayne County, or just cold turn it over to mechanized police officers.

vodkamuppet March 12, 2011 at 1:15 am

Oh god I hope not. I kind of like that the city I live in is basically lawless. If they get robocops I might actually get in trouble for openly chugging a bottle of vodka on the riverwalk.

Negropolis March 13, 2011 at 7:00 am

That is one of the rather nice things about Detroit; the government has so little real control in the place, that you can get away with a lot of things both good and bad. You could probably built a ten-story addition to your house in your backyard, and code enforcement probably wouldn't blink. lol And, don't even bother calling about someone smoking a joint on your front porch; they DPD will probably cuss you out on the phone and tell you not to call them with little shit, again.

Doktor[redacted] March 12, 2011 at 3:22 pm

Pets of Meat.

(You know, I really meant to type "Pets OR Meat," but I think I prefer the typo)

Limeylizzie March 11, 2011 at 9:06 pm

The only good thing that might possiby come out of all this insanity, union-busting, general assholery and malice by these Teabuggers is that maybe, just maybe ,people will get off their arses and waddle off to the polls and vote for Barry in 2012.

ShaveTheWhales March 12, 2011 at 12:50 am

Maybe. And maybe they can even be bothered to vote on the down-ticket lines.

But if they go back to the couch/funk/protest-vote/general-fuckup in 2014, we'll just continue to lurch gently into industrial feudalism.

In 1987, I married a woman who wanted to have kids. For the first time in my life, I thought they'd have a decent chance to have a life.

Having met my children, I cannot regret my decision. But I am leaning towards hoping that they don't feel the need to reproduce.

Rotundo_ March 12, 2011 at 11:15 am

I am hoping the same for mine. I notice that the vast majority of the right cosists of people with plenty of money to give their children the best, or that have already launched their children successfully into the world. The "We got ours, fuck you" sentiment runs a little too strongly in a bunch that noisily proclaims their "christianity".

yellowerdog March 11, 2011 at 9:09 pm

Not fascism, it's oligarchy. In a rich country like ours it could last a very long time. Kill unions, safety net, social security, and they'll pull even more votes. Patriotism supports them, Jeebus supports them, the military, tradition supports them. Trump is Rich, so he must be Right. South American oligarchy type reasoning. Like the American midwest before unions – right side and wrong side of the tracks, country club Republicans run both sides.

karen March 11, 2011 at 11:05 pm

I agree. What we've got going on is a new, purely American way of governance. It's a combo of everything. What can we call this small-government-capitalist-fascist-oligarchical way of thinking?

ChessieNefercat March 12, 2011 at 9:34 am

Fuckery.

yellowerdog March 12, 2011 at 10:38 am

Ronnie Reagan's program – "I've got mine, fuck you!"

mumbly_[redacted] March 12, 2011 at 2:20 pm

Eh, all of the best fascist states always had a bit of that oligarchical kleptocracy thing going on, too. The only real difference is, and ever has been, whether the moneyed take orders from the politicians, or vice versa.

KenLayIsAlive March 11, 2011 at 9:40 pm

See, now aren't we all sad to have called Neilist an asshole all those times? Or did he just call himself that, I don't know.

Jukesgrrl March 12, 2011 at 12:12 am

I don't think it was "asshole," but I definitely called him a few things.

Troubledog March 11, 2011 at 9:42 pm

Just run the whole fucking thing into the ground. Like Iceland and Ireland and Greece. Take all the money. Leave us all holding the bill and then say it's not your fault. Nobody ever goes to jail, except Madoff, and that's only cause he stole from RICH PEOPLE.

It works every time. I don't even care anymore. I'm going to go bankrupt, walk away from this house, throw my truck keys to the credit union, and go off the fucking grid.

nounverb911 March 11, 2011 at 9:58 pm

Sorry! I downfisted you by mistake!
Mea Culpa
Mea Culpa
Mea Culpa

Sophist [teadacted] March 12, 2011 at 3:21 am

Well, I am a compassionate and gracious Dog, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness — so I guess I forgive you.

ifthethunderdontgetya March 11, 2011 at 10:12 pm

AHEM! (Is this thing on?)

Recall target, Sen. Randy Hopper (R-Fond du Lac), talks a good game about family values.

But protesters outside the Hopper house this week in Fond du Lac were met by his wife who reportedly came out and told them: Hopper no longer lives there, but with his 25-year-old mistress in Madison.

Republican Senator Randy Hopper

His real name, people.
~

ShaveTheWhales March 12, 2011 at 1:12 am

Oh good god. We had people in Cali that used to write fiction about shit like this, ten or fifteen years ago, because of the ironiez. But I think they avoided naming anybody "Randy", because of the ohfuckthatsstupid.

Oh, and if there are any trollies reading, the reason this is shitty behavior is NOT that the jerkwad left his wife for a 25-year-old lobbyist. Lust happens, jah?

The reason it's shitty behavior (politically) is that he filed for divorce in August, and then ran for re-election in November, and actively concealed the facts from the electorate. Having a mid-life crisis with a bit of lobbyist poontang is one thing; but pretending that it didn't happen in order to get elected is pretty close to fraud.

horsedreamer_1 March 12, 2011 at 8:52 pm

How has this not made it into the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel? Oh, yeah, that's right: Randy Hopper is white & from Fond du Lac — salt of the earth, lots of union workers (well, corrections officers, who soon will not be) — & not black & repping the Central City of the MKE, like Gary George.

Fuck you, PolitifactWisconsin. Eat a bag of dicks, Dave Umhoefer.

lulzmonger March 11, 2011 at 10:22 pm

LOLGOP

The voices say it's a GOOD bill! Vote for it or the demons will take over!

BarackMyWorld March 11, 2011 at 10:23 pm
wee[redacted] March 11, 2011 at 10:57 pm

Sweet, but the teatard rearview mirror is fitted with a magic prism that would filter this out if we chained each & every tard and made them watch it 24/7. They'd go eyes closed and the start with the loud LA LA LA LA AL LA… Or is it LoL LoL LoL….?

Logical or spiritual disconnects, as in this case since it is Ronnie – it be spiritual, don't mean spit to a teatard. They know what they knows and nobody kin show 'em different.

PresBeeblebrox March 12, 2011 at 8:54 am

Wasn't St. Ronnie the president of SAG in the olden days? Y'know, around the same time he was squealing on Fellow Travelers to Joe McCarthy.

AddHomonym March 11, 2011 at 10:45 pm

Commissars! Takeovers! Jamming it down our throats! Too many pages in the bill! Not enough pages in the bill!

When will this kind of simple-minded rhetoric be deployed? It's the only thing the lazystream media can understand.

miss_grundy March 11, 2011 at 10:50 pm

I live in Michigan and I can tell you that the rabid rubes went out and voted for this guy because they bought the whole "tough nerd" and that he had been CEO of Gateway Computers. He wants to tax the retirement pensions of retired workers, get rid of the film incentives, which brought jobs to the state, and give his fellow CEOs a big tax break for their companies. And like other Repugnants, he wants to end collective bargaining for state employees.

The guy deserves to get kicked where it hurts him the most until anything that identifies him as a man is gone.

Michigan has a lousy jobs portfolio because it has always depended on automotive manufacturing to get by. While Gov. Granholm has brought some green industries to the state, we still need to bring in a lot more industries so that everyone will be able to find a job that will allow workers to have a good standard of living. But lowering the corporate tax rate to six percent will not be enough. After all, South Dakota has a six percent corporate tax rate and it isn't exactly job heaven.

I can't wait until the rubes start wailing about this guy. I am so going to enjoy saying TOLDJA SO!!!!!!

BZ1 March 11, 2011 at 11:54 pm

Wait a second, Gateway computers, those pieces of cr*p parts-boxes?!!

ShaveTheWhales March 12, 2011 at 1:38 am

Great fucking balls of fire. This schmuck was CEO of Gateway on two occasions, for a total of maybe two years. And even the first time (1996) was well after the company had become largely irrelevant. (Disclaimer: I bought several Gateway PCs in the late '80s/early '90s, because they were a good deal at the time. After that, not so much).

Mostly, he appears to have parlayed his pre-dot-bomb capital gains into a couple of Vulture Capital funds, which were based in MI. I don't have the patience to determine how many of their investments were in MI startups.

Seriously, though. The dick was the CEO of a once-significant PC company during two post-significance periods when it was flailing (and the second time, it got fire-saled to Acer). This is the guy you all want to be your Governor?

To be fair, I've lived in California for some time, and we've coughed up Reagan, Deukmajian, and Ahnold, so, hairballs for everyone.

VinnyThePooh March 12, 2011 at 1:11 pm

we still need to bring in a lot more industries so that everyone will be able to find a job that will allow workers to have a good standard of living

I don't think any of the out-of-work auto workers would have any trouble transitioning their skills to the manufacturing of high-tech passenger rail cars.

HistoriCat March 12, 2011 at 8:32 pm

Having "CEO" on your resume is almost automatically a disqualification for public office in my view. You can't become CEO of a company without having a strong self-centeredness. Plus, you're probably used to screwing over people, so I say keep your ill-gotten gains and stay out of politics.

PublicLuxury March 11, 2011 at 11:28 pm

Ok. Ok. Ok. I can't fuckin' stand it anymore. What the Fuck does that 'man' have stuffed in his pants?

AddHomonym March 12, 2011 at 12:35 am

Freedom.

Negropolis March 12, 2011 at 12:50 am

His stomach. Look how far they are pulled up.

pinkocommi March 11, 2011 at 11:34 pm

As goes Michigan today, so goes the rest of America in the next 20 to 30 years.

onemoretime79 March 12, 2011 at 12:15 am

"Yeah, well I don't want to sound like a Dick but I told you so". ~

Angry_Marmot March 12, 2011 at 9:03 am

I have a Cassandra-sized headache.

Negropolis March 12, 2011 at 12:34 am

The only redeeming thing about the way this state went in 2010 was that they could have went for a tea bagger governor and chose the elitist guy who essentially told Michiganders that he was way smarter than they were…and they still chose him. He couldn't have gotten away with that in Mississippi.

BTW, the guy is so rich that he chose not to live in the Michigan governor's mansion in Lansing…because it's smaller than his McMansion in suburban Ann Arbor.

Negropolis March 12, 2011 at 12:56 am

More background on this guy. He has said that Michigan will only be successful if Detroit is successful, and said during his campaign that he's pro-transit and urban issues, pro-environment, anti-capital punishment, rather neutral on other social issues (politically pro-choice, but personally pro-life, blah, blah, blah), and wants to attract more highly educated immigrants, here, to create start-up businesses. He stood up to the tea party crazies, but when the rubber hit the road – when he actually had to start governing – he regressed.

We'd all hoped that he'd be a bullwark between the people and the newly tea-party controlled/influence state legislature, but he obviously doesn't have much the guts. He was self-funded so he always claimed he didn't owe anyone any favors.

What is not confusing is that the guy was a CEO and venture capitalist, and is (book)smart as a whip, so unlike a lot of these other doofus governors, he knows exactly what he's doing. That makes him more dangerous.

Radio[redacted]™ March 12, 2011 at 1:13 am

Didn't you call this shit three weeks ago?

[redacted], I can't make the link go to your comment, so I'll paste it here:

I can't wait 'tll this shit goes down in Michigan's so I can shout: Release the wolverines!

Actually, here in Michigan, the legislature's being more sneaky about dismembering collective bargaining. Knowing that many of our school districts and municipalities will surely go into insolvency after this new austere budget, they are making it easier for the governor to declare "financial emergencies" so that he can appoint emergency managers who can dissolve union contracts. This way, you don't have to attack union members head-on (that'd be political suicide, here in Michigam, regardless of your party), you just slowly create crises, and then pretend to swoop in as some sort of hero when what you're really doing is insidious union busting.

vodkamuppet March 12, 2011 at 1:44 am

When he won the republican nomination I was glad because he seemed like the least partisan of the candidates and even though he's an obvious corporate shill I didn't think he'd pursue the culture wars but I was dead fucking wrong. Virtually everything he's done since he's been in office has been class war and unfortunately my poor Teamster ass is losing. It's getting to the point where I'd very much like to see some of this union thuggishness the right is always droning on about. It's pretty much us or them time.

Lascauxcaveman March 12, 2011 at 2:34 am

"He lied. Get over it."*

*His re-election campaign slogan, 2014

PresBeeblebrox March 12, 2011 at 9:59 am

So… moar funding for the Detroit People Mover, then?

Negropolis March 13, 2011 at 6:45 am

It's funny, the guy is a huge advocate of the new light rail line soon to be constructed downtown Woodward in Detroit, but he isn't putting his money and technical support where his mouth is. It's great to be a fan of this stuff, but if you're releasing a budget that takes money from schools and working families and such to give it to business, your priorities don't match your rhetoric.

El Pinche March 12, 2011 at 1:48 am

Alt to the Alt txt: No sir, I don't do "happy endings."

ShaveTheWhales March 12, 2011 at 1:52 am

Ah, being x percent drunk, I neglected to mention this earlier, but I think it would be a good idea if we refer to any of the newly appointed "Emergency Managers" as "Czars". So, the Emergency Manager for the Grosse Pointe School District (assuming there is such a thing), would be the Grosse Pointe School District Czar.

It's much shorter and catchier than "Emergency Manager". Therefore, there is at least a chance that the LSM might adopt it. I don't know if the WNM can be persuaded to adopt it, but if they don't, one might be able to ask why they don't use the official titles for the so-called federal czars?

FlipOffResearch March 12, 2011 at 2:47 am

From the heart of Teabaggerville Mi.

Honestly, I have been trying my best not to talk politics in the bar. But, here's how it started:

"What do you think about Wisconsin?"
"I think it's a war on the middle class."

It continued in a predictable manner for about a half hour, and then:

"What has Obama done for the country?"
"He saved the country from going into a depression that George W. Bush almost caused."
"Bush didn't wreck the economy that was all Obama."

At this point I r realized I was dealing with someone, not divorced from reality, but something worse, having an active feud with reality.

So I had a hunch.

"What do you think of global warming?"

I got the usual irrefutable proof that global warming is a hoax because , duh, there's snow outside. Then I got this:

"Now that we have modern fire fighting equipment, forest fires that used to rage unabated are quelled early. The CO2 that this saves clearly counters the output of cars and power plants."

He gave me this look, like "checkmate ", and waited for me to respond.

Now, it has been a long time since I had heard something even remotely this stupid.
So I dropped the level of reasonableness I had been trying to maintain.

"Like 99% of the world scientists state that global warming is a real threat to mankind. The few "scientists" that disagree are almost exclusively funded by the oil and coal industry. And they feed you this stuff, like it's factual.. You really shouldn't feel too stupid, they literally spent millions of dollars planting that idea in your head."

Not surprisingly, the conversation descended into a "why do you hate America so much" versus "you are a willing victim of propaganda" shoutfest.

Bottom line, despite my having to listen to hours of crackpot interpretations of the constitution,these fucks aren't alarmed by Snyders fascist maneuverings. There is no hope for Michigan. Lansing is occupied territory.

vodkamuppet March 12, 2011 at 4:30 am

Oh sweet Jesus. Forest fires? Really? One of the few perks of living inside the Detroit city limits is that I rarely encounter teabaggers in the wild. When I do it's like meeting a fucking Martian only a Martian would likely be much smarter and have better hygiene. Your restraint is commendable, adding alcohol into the mix I would have lost my shit completely. Unlike the democrats in congress I refuse to validate teabaggers with any modicum of respect. It gives them the impression that their opinions have value which they don't. Your right about Michigan being hopeless, I used to think of it as the Northeast of the Midwest but outside of the liberal pockets of Detroit and Ann Arbor this state is populated by illiterate hillbilly redneck freaks. I can't wait to get out, preferably to Europe but I'd settle for New York, Boston or Phlly.

PresBeeblebrox March 12, 2011 at 8:47 am

Remember the Michigan Militia? The Thumb is one fucking scary place. And don't get me started about the UP.

ChessieNefercat March 12, 2011 at 9:43 am

Oh, go ahead, get started about the UP. I've lived here (though not born and raised here) for about 20 years. It's uh, different.

horsedreamer_1 March 12, 2011 at 9:02 pm

The peninsula that gave us Stupak Shakur was & is scary? You're kidding me. The man only held up health-care reform so he could keep taking Communion from his Priest, so abortion-coverage in insurance sold on exchanges had to be excised, with no wriggle room at all for any "mother's life" or other exceptions.

ChessieNefercat March 12, 2011 at 9:44 am

And Martians, having made it here all the way from Mars, are clearly intelligent and respect science.

ShaveTheWhales March 12, 2011 at 5:39 am

Fuck, I was already depressed.

Not that I have any real hope, but when you run into the "Global Warming is a wrong because it's snowing" line, you could try "Have you forgotten how fucking hot it was last summer?" I've gotten occasional flashes of "hmm" here in Red Cali.

And, for the forest-fire argument, you might trot out numbers about the fucking coal fires in China (and a few in the US as well). I've never cross-referenced those to forest fires, and I'm incompetent to do that right now, but I'm pretty sure that the CO2 released from coal fires dwarfs almost everything except internal combustion engines.

Of course, you're right about no hope. If the brain-dead cared about facts, we'd have no problems, eh?

PresBeeblebrox March 12, 2011 at 8:48 am

They did a great job putting out the forest fires in Russia over the summer. It's not like Moscow was choked with smoke or anything.

MilwaukeeKent March 12, 2011 at 11:01 am

All these weather records being broken all over the world means nothing to these people. Not just the usual handful here and there, either. When it snows it will snow a lot, when it rains it pours, in dry years it will be VERY dry. You have all your usual weather patterns but way more or way less of them. Of course 100 and 500 year flood plains in the Dakotas getting floods of the century a couple-three years in a row means nothing to them. Ain't no global "warming" cause it's chilly outside, confusing weather and climate.

Mention "economic impact" and you'll really get a blank stare.

horsedreamer_1 March 12, 2011 at 9:06 pm

Two of the last three summers, Milwaukee has had flooding in late June/early July that resulted in such massive food losses/electric shut-offs that FEMA have been giving out SNAP without rhyme or reason, just to get everyone covered that needed it. & quite a few that didn't (which is an whole 'nother kettle of fish). But, no, this repetitive seasonal flooding — & it's not as if Brew City is known for its Monsoon Season — is totally normal.

VinnyThePooh March 12, 2011 at 1:33 pm

Years ago, I had a bar patron acquaintance that always prepared himself for these argumentative jackasses by always having a shot of 151 and a lighter at the ready.
If the prick became threatening, the 151 was quickly splashed into his red goatee and beady eyes and promptly lit, warming his globe.

horsedreamer_1 March 12, 2011 at 9:00 pm

I have family in the right-hand mitten who, in '04, were supporting Bush because Kerry was, & I quote, The Devil. He was quite literally, in their minds, a malign force intent on destroying the country. & these are college-educated people, generally nice folks… A little bat-shit when it comes to religion, but we all have our quirks. After hearing that, I had to reconsider.

Natl[redacted]Cmdr March 14, 2011 at 3:11 am

i commend your attempt at trying to bring rational thought to this individual. (at 2:10 am., i am also trying to bring rational thought to myself) unregardless! you have done a very brave thing and i thank you. there is only "no hope" if you let it slip away.

Fare la Nippon March 12, 2011 at 3:53 am

I'm moving to this state in September.

What the hell am I thinking?

wee[redacted] March 12, 2011 at 4:10 am

Illinois has some more level geography, like around Champaign, but truly sounds Fare that yer going the Flat Earther Mecca. Good luck with that and hope that you find a talisman to keep in yer purse to help center your sanity when you have encounters of the fogged mind, as FlipOffResearch related just before your post..

vodkamuppet March 12, 2011 at 4:42 am

As my handle implies, I drink a shit ton of vodka to cope with living here. Michigan is much more tolerable when 50% of your time is spent in an alcoholic haze. Some people say there's a downside to that but I've yet to encounter one.

Natl[redacted]Cmdr March 14, 2011 at 3:13 am

my fist up to you was solely for the vodka. i was tying to order.

Fare la Nippon March 14, 2011 at 6:48 am

Oh, Muppet. You don't know half the crazy that is my Michigan situtation. I'm moving to Detroit. With no job. To live with my ex. And his boyfriend.

You wanna get trashed sometime? I'm really gonna need it.

vodkamuppet March 14, 2011 at 7:16 am

I'm always up for getting trashed, and I live in downtown Detroit so I can show you where all the best bars are and the easiest spots too catch a cab if you're too drunk to stumble home!

Negropolis March 15, 2011 at 12:57 am

Wow, what a twist. Your life sounds like a Mexican telenovela.

ChessieNefercat March 12, 2011 at 9:45 am

Why and where in Michigan? To the UP? Might I have a new neighbor?

Fare la Nippon March 14, 2011 at 6:49 am

Nah. Right where the bottom of the thumb meets the hand. Yeah, that hell hole.

Negropolis March 13, 2011 at 6:50 am

Wait, people actually move to Michigan, these days? It's really kind of funny when Michiganders meet their new neighbors. When you tell one of us that you've willingly moved here, we get a disgusted/horrified look on our face and our first reply is "why?"

vodkamuppet March 13, 2011 at 2:07 pm

I work at Wayne State and I'm always baffled when I meet students from out of state. "You moved here to go to this fucking school?"

proudgrampa March 13, 2011 at 5:59 pm

Hey, Fare –

If it's any consolation, I moved to TX last August and I thought the same thing: what the hell am I doing?

But you know what? It doesn't matter. Wherever you live, you will just continue to be amazed at the on-going absurdity of it all. Embrace it! It's funny as hell.

Now, excuse me, it's almost time for cocktails.

Love,

Proudgrampa

comrad_darkness March 13, 2011 at 11:31 pm

If you are moving to K-zoo or A^2 you will be good.

Natl[redacted]Cmdr March 14, 2011 at 3:16 am

hello, soon-to-be relatively-neighborishness!

look, there are assholes and clowns everywhere. it doesn't matter. or you could move to new york and live in peter king's district, because, you know, everyone is so liberal and enlightened in the great cities of the northeast.

Angry_Marmot March 12, 2011 at 9:24 am

If you're above the geologic line where farmland turns to sandy pine and birch, it's gorgeous near the water. Hartwick Pines is the only virgin stand of trees left in the LP. Leelanau Peninsula and lakefront real estate is almost completely taken over by rich tourists, no tax base. There are pockets of political sanity in Kalamazoo and Ann Arbor, but the southwest is full of Dutchmen who left the Netherlands to escape vaccination and contraception around 1840. Grand Rapids has a few pockets of free thought (Fountain Street Church FTW) but the real money is in the hands of the Amway family and Gerald Ford Republicans. Flint, Detroit and the rest were monoculture car towns, like the Irish and their potatoes. Too many people from Arkansas, white and black, came up looking for work in the 1950s (some of them my forebears) and that made the in-between culture resemble Indiana, settled south-to-north. Rust town politicians fight over scraps. We lead the nation in mad bombers. Everyone else is either a character from Elmore Leonard or a Jim Harrison novel. I wouldn't have gone on so long, but this latest shenanigan from Snyder has me in a wary crouch, and this was a welcome distraction.

Natl[redacted]Cmdr March 14, 2011 at 3:21 am

you're smart.

PubOption March 12, 2011 at 9:47 am

Elitist comment to follow, take note troll 'followers'.
It looks like Snyder sees himself as the Czar, and his managers as Boyars. Directly or indirectly they all exploit the peasants.

PresBeeblebrox March 12, 2011 at 10:00 am

KWAME '14!

Angry_Marmot March 12, 2011 at 2:05 pm

Which of your two heads did that come from?

horsedreamer_1 March 12, 2011 at 9:08 pm

Does it matter? I like the idea.

KWAME KILPATRICK: THE BLACK EDWIN EDWARDS.

Negropolis March 13, 2011 at 7:09 am

Ha! We passed a ballot measure in 2010 to block politicians like him from running for office 20 years after a convincton or release or something. Some state senator out of Detroit sponsored it hoping it'd get folks to come out and vote. It didn't, even though it passed handily. If it got anyone to turnout out it was the out-state racist teabaggers who hate everything Detroit, even the good.

MilwaukeeKent March 12, 2011 at 11:06 am

G-damn, now we need contingency plans for not just the Austin Airlift but for the Ann Arbor and perhaps Madison Airlifts as well. Can Vermont handle these many refugees?

These Fascists are bound to lose, remember that. Fuck, I hope so.

tymberwolf817 March 12, 2011 at 12:59 pm

I'd say that this is something the AG's office might be interested in hearing, but there are gay students who need harassing. Priorities, people!

lulzmonger March 12, 2011 at 12:35 pm

Rick Snyder: just your regular humble everyday Family Values Technocratic Nihilist.

AKA Stewie from Family Guy, but with a monotone & sixtyish.

mormos March 12, 2011 at 1:58 pm

Death feeds on his mute voice, and laughs at our despair

VinnyThePooh March 12, 2011 at 1:48 pm

No Bedouin robes and Blue Blockers? C'mon, Ricky.
When do we get to bomb the Michigan National Guard and cooperating militias?
Wanna see a maverick, Ricky? They're also known as AGM-65s.

mumbly_[redacted] March 12, 2011 at 2:11 pm

First abolishing Unions while openly admitting it's because Unions are Democrats' base, now this. How long do you think until some wingnut Governer just goes all the way, and abolishes the Democratic party and suspends elections because Emergency? That's obviously where all this Permanent Majority/Unilaterally Fire Elected Officials Because Emergency crap is ultimately headed.

Only, of course, the order or legislation or whatever will call them the Democrat party, for the lulz.

glamourdammerung March 12, 2011 at 3:16 pm

Given how the Wisconsin bill was passed, they might as well "man up" and do your suggestion. After all, it would be about as legal as the Wisconsin process.

They could call it the "Teabling Act".

onemoretime79 March 12, 2011 at 5:52 pm

Fitzgerald openly admitted this was about busting collective bargaining. That is a key admission. The message has been ill-reported, if one only watches teevee.
How to counter it?
The recalls at work in the state, is a start. I'm just wondering how much money the state will spend, to fund the Governor's numerous defenses needed since he has defiled the law.

on edit, I realize I'm still talking about Wisconsin. To me they are all the same, to wit: this is an orchestrated move and an assault against all workers everywhere.

horsedreamer_1 March 12, 2011 at 9:10 pm

Fitzgerald also thinks the State needs to reconsider its recall law.

I think we might as well just start calling Scooter by his Muslim name: Sadat.

mumbly_[redacted] March 13, 2011 at 10:04 am

He admitted more than that- he admitted that busting collective bargaining was, itself, just a way to weaken the Democratic Party's political and financial base in advance of 2012, so Democrats lose more elections.

Of course, everybody cares about this.

Doktor[redacted] March 12, 2011 at 3:19 pm

OK, so now I'm following you. Rumor is that having "followers" is a p-ness enhancer.

Limeylizzie March 13, 2011 at 6:29 pm

Hey, I am being "followed" by some Breitbugger creep, and he also has expained his incredibly smart way of dealing with us Wonketteers.

2 days ago @ Breitbart.tv – Obama Focuses on Bullying · 0 replies · -4 points
Remember to visit Wonkette.com and let the hateful, irrational liberals there know what you think of their posts ;)

I prefer to start at the end of each thread and work backwards, that way the negative p's are more obvious.

moar_plz March 12, 2011 at 4:36 pm

Windsor, ON is going to be pissed when the Boat People start coming ashore.

Angry_Marmot March 13, 2011 at 10:29 am

You'll see me there, selling flowers from a plastic bucket in front of the strip clubs and bingo halls.

BarackMyWorld March 12, 2011 at 4:56 pm

He's climbing in your windows, he's snatching your cities up.

user-of-owls March 12, 2011 at 9:27 pm

He's sellin’ his clothes, sleepin’ in cars
Dressin’ it down, hittin’ on dudes (HARD!)

BarackMyWorld March 13, 2011 at 10:34 pm

Hide yo kids, hide yo wife, hide yo pensions….there's a Republican here in Michigan.

Negropolis March 13, 2011 at 11:40 pm

They rappin' everybody. No doubt.

Walkinwiddaking March 12, 2011 at 5:44 pm

Gateway Computers? Their bovine outlet stores really took the world by storm.

Warpde March 12, 2011 at 6:21 pm

M'erika, We are soooo screwed.
I'm moving to Egypt.
They have a better grasp of democracy.

user-of-owls March 12, 2011 at 7:24 pm

All your municipalities belong to us.

ShaveTheWhales March 12, 2011 at 7:33 pm

Please, let's use correct grammar:

All your municipality are belong to us.

user-of-owls March 12, 2011 at 8:27 pm

For great justice.
All your correction are belong to correct.

Warpde March 12, 2011 at 8:31 pm

Allow me to correct your correction.

Bow before Zod.

vodkamuppet March 12, 2011 at 8:39 pm

Kneel before Zod.

Fukui_sanYesOta March 12, 2011 at 8:49 pm

Why do you say these things when you know he will kill you for it?

MarcelleMarceau March 12, 2011 at 9:48 pm

I'll hazard a guess that the municipalities in question are run by elected Democrats.

lulzmonger March 12, 2011 at 11:51 pm

IM IN YR CAPITOL, KILLING YR GOVERNMENTZ

CrankyLttlCamperette March 13, 2011 at 1:43 am

I'M IN YR CAPITOL, KILLING YR UNIONS

MarcelleMarceau March 12, 2011 at 7:55 pm

I still live in MI because I categorically believe quitting is not an option.

The 17th Amendment is next, mark my words.

vodkamuppet March 12, 2011 at 8:29 pm

Just realized the decrepit warehouse at 0:09 in the video is a block away from my building, I can see it from my window. Detroit pride baby!

horsedreamer_1 March 12, 2011 at 9:14 pm

Speaking of Detroit pride: any chance Eminem could run in 2014 as a third-party ("Detroit Renewal") candidate for Governor? Seeing his given name Marshall B. Mathers III on the ballot might trick enough Teabaggers & Country-clubbers into thinking Em's some kind of Perot/Trump businessman/plutocrat looking to make-over government into a well-oiled machine.

Fukui_sanYesOta March 13, 2011 at 3:28 am

Just noticed that you're also starred on gawker.

Welcome to where the good commenters are hiding these days.

vodkamuppet March 13, 2011 at 3:51 am

Yeah gawker forced me to abandon them, for the most part anyway. I used to comment on Wonkette under a different name before they used intense debate but I had a dryspell of about a year. It's good to be back, I forgot how much fun it is over here.

Fukui_sanYesOta March 13, 2011 at 4:15 am

The commenters here tend to be erudite, literate and above all hilarious – what more could you want? I'm a recent convert to this place and love it.

There's a huge rant I could write about the gawker redesign and why it's a shitball idea enabled by javascript monkeys with zero clue, but I'm sure it's been done.

vodkamuppet March 13, 2011 at 2:15 pm

The redesign goes beyond just sucking, It's so freaking awful it won"t work on my Ipad and Iphone. I can still comment on Gawker tv but that's the only one, all the others redirect to mobile sites. What kind of business model is that, to make your site virtually inoperable and call all of your daily readers "peasants"? Oh dear, I can feel myself getting started on a rant so I'll stop. Besides, you already know all this.

Chet Kincaid March 13, 2011 at 2:46 pm

Welcome, Gawker refugees! Hope you have fun commenting here. I never even started commenting on Gawker, because their attitude that they're doing readers a favor by stingily granting them unpaid permission to comment is offensive. Commenting here is self-policing, and the whole vibe of the site and comments discourages the shallow-thinking and humorless. Rarely does management have to use the ban-hammer.

glamourdammerung March 13, 2011 at 3:09 pm

Sorry, I was busy stealing all your personal information on Gawker. Now what were we discussing?

Camaro Nova March 12, 2011 at 9:03 pm

Oh god. I live in Louisiana … I can't wait for Piyush Jindal – who is way nerdier than this dork – to be somehow "inspired" by this

predilectrix March 13, 2011 at 2:31 am

So, the Tard Reich has begun?

Fukui_sanYesOta March 13, 2011 at 4:31 am

Ein Reich! Ein Lard Rover! Ein Snowbilly!

SIEG FAIL! SIEG FAIL! SIEG FAIL!

Negropolis March 13, 2011 at 7:17 am

Release the Wolverines!

Just a head-up, but there have basically been some kind of protest at the Michigan State Capitol every other day for the past two weeks or so. Yesterday, about 100 folks turned out for a Wisconsin solidarity rally.

There are now protests planned for monday, tuesday and wednesday, for sure, with tuesday supposed to be a huge rally where teh AARP olds will descend from all over the state to protest the budget. That's right, show us youngins how to do it!

Again, release the wolverines! Duh, WINNING.

Natl[redacted]Cmdr March 14, 2011 at 3:26 am

if i ever wanted to give more than one upfist, this was it. keep releasing the wolverines. (that's supposed to be inspiring)

chicgoods16 March 13, 2011 at 9:48 am
RedAmanda March 13, 2011 at 11:25 am

That's it. I will no longer purchase Michigan products like potatoes, sour cherries and rusting fenders from 1979 Chryslers.

starfanglednut March 13, 2011 at 12:16 pm

All this makes me sooo glad to be a masshole.

fishskicanoe March 13, 2011 at 12:20 pm

Look. I don't want to get all serious and shit or have Jon Stewart on my butt for being a shrill partisan but the Tea Baggers' own intellectual forefathers are not pro-democracy. Milton Freidman wrote a little piece called "Capitalism and Freedom" where he basically called democracy evil since it interferes with the functions of markets.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Economics/Milto

If democracy in Chile and Bolivia are seen as wrong in the far right mind then how can the government of the U.S. or its states be any better. The proof to them was in Chile itself where, after the people took back the right to rule themselves from Pinochet and the corporations, they promptly tossed the right out of the political sphere and imprisoned (or tried to, in Pinochet's case) the worst offenders of their basic human rights. So my thought is that, that lesson learned… that the people when given a chance will opt for food, housing, education and democracy over markets that parcel them out to the most "deserving"…would have to mean to the Baggers that "democracy" can only be allowed if it gives the markets what they want. If it doesn't then Michigan style states of emergency will take over and gently nudge the deluded populace back into line.

The Baggers have always been fascists, no matter what Jon Stewart says.

glamourdammerung March 13, 2011 at 3:27 pm

Everywhere Freidman's nonsense was tried either was totalitarian or became such. Which invalidates this crap about how an "unfettered" market promotes personal liberties outside of the liberty to screw people over.

Though Rothbard managed to go even more with the crazy which was very impressive.

Madam Killjoy March 13, 2011 at 7:57 pm

Thank you for that link.

glamourdammerung March 13, 2011 at 9:03 pm

Read some of Rothbard's screeds on the von Mises "Institute" site for more crazy fun. My personal favorite was the women being busybodies caused the Civil War, as opposed to morons firing on American soldiers.

starfanglednut March 13, 2011 at 12:25 pm

Health care, gay marriage, I don't even know any republicans, and when Palin came here on the anniversary of the Boston Tea Party, they hadda bus people in from New Hampshire to go to her stupid fucking rally.

DashboardBuddha March 13, 2011 at 6:48 pm

Well awesome…it looks like some douchebag named "UnionsRStreetGangs " is following me. Anyone else?

When I saw this notification in my mailbox, I got that same creepy feeling I would get when I was a kid whenever the local Chester the Molester would hang out at the park. Are these losers keeping some kind of "enemies list"?

imissopus March 13, 2011 at 6:52 pm

Just got the same notice. I like his little tag line: Boycott union products and services whenever possible. Unions internalize all profit and externalize all costs.

As opposed to those generous corporations, which give all their profits away to the poor and needy. But sure dude, go ahead and buy only Japanese-imported cars, the salesman will throw in the glow-in-the-dark undercoating at no extra cost.

glamourdammerung March 13, 2011 at 7:02 pm

Funny how I distinctly recall a lot of taxpayer dough going to bail out the banks (after they managed to kill several regulations and then failed) and how they managed to successfully socialize their costs while internalizing their profits.

Are these losers keeping some kind of "enemies list"?
Well, you are not being stalked by this clown because they are not keeping one.

DashboardBuddha March 13, 2011 at 7:45 pm

"Well, you are not being stalked by this clown because they are not keeping one. "

Great…well, you can just rock me to sleep tonight.

Limeylizzie March 13, 2011 at 8:03 pm

I am being "followed" by this wanker as well, it won't stop my sexually charged postings though, that'll show him.

PsycWench March 13, 2011 at 10:10 pm

Yeah, me too. I checked out his profile and he's kind of obsessed with us in the way that the anthrax guy was obsessed with a sorority.
I would look those up but it's the first day of DST and I must conserve my energy.

glamourdammerung March 13, 2011 at 6:57 pm

It is the same Breitard clown from before.

Though seeing them whine and cry about being banned here and how intolerant everyone here is after banning them for only shitposting here for 1-2 months is simply precious.

TsunamiAli March 13, 2011 at 7:07 pm

Yep just got the same notice. What a douchebart.

Bluestatelibel March 13, 2011 at 8:12 pm

Yeah, being stalked here too by this idiot. It's a good thing I have two full-grown Rottweilers that hate Teabaggers.

DashboardBuddha March 13, 2011 at 8:25 pm

Right on! My two kitties are the same way. Unless of course they have treats and catnip….they're weak that way.

user-of-owls March 13, 2011 at 9:31 pm

As are we all, Buddha, as are we all.

Fukui_sanYesOta March 13, 2011 at 8:28 pm

I feel left out now! Only "Stench of Liberalism" is following and downfisting me.

Of course, it's quite likely that it's the same retard using multiple monikers for maximum furious fisting fun.

glamourdammerung March 13, 2011 at 9:01 pm

That is the same account, new stupid name.

[redacted]89048 March 13, 2011 at 10:24 pm

If this is the case, does that mean that the handful of wonketeers I follow get a new notice of stalking every time I change my pathetic screen name?

Doktor[redacted] March 14, 2011 at 12:35 am

Don't think so…honestly, I don't know how it works. I just know that the Breittard is terribly, terribly upset at how unfair we mean ol' libruls are, and is certain that downfisting us is somehow accomplishing something.

For the sake of experimentation (Am I too old for youthful experimentation?), I just started following you. In a few days, I'll change my nym back to "DoktorZoom," and we'll see whether you get a new notice. I don't think you will; I didn't get a notice when people started redacting their names.

elviouslyqueer March 14, 2011 at 11:27 am

I wondered about that. And damn, here I was thinking that the trolls had latched on to me because they were fapping to my awesome sexytime avatar. *pouts*

[redacted]89048 March 13, 2011 at 8:43 pm

Yeah, I'm in. I'm so proud…

jqheywood March 13, 2011 at 9:20 pm

Me too. I feel like I finally belong….

vodkamuppet March 13, 2011 at 9:57 pm

He's following me too and I've only been posting here for a few days. I guess this means I can expect my P-ness to be downfisted?

UW8316154 March 13, 2011 at 10:42 pm

I feel left out. I'm not being stalked.

I am going to both upfist you, Muppet and reply to your comment as preemptive pee-score protective measures.

vodkamuppet March 13, 2011 at 11:55 pm

I'm always happy to reciprocate a good upfisting, it's the American way. Don't worry though, I'm sure if you apply yourself you'll get a stalker too.

Oh and fisting jokes never get old. Fisting.

comrad_darkness March 13, 2011 at 11:27 pm

There is a really easy counter to this. Ask your troll if it should be legal to collectivize resources, such as trees so they can be managed for lumber, or mining equipment to make it economical to dig for coal, or money so that one can make loans and earn interest as a bank. If collectivizing resources is a good thing, then point out that unions are just collectivized labor resources. And if that's not allowed then no corporation that collectivizes resources should be allowed either.

user-of-owls March 13, 2011 at 11:35 pm

Or you could just call them a poopyhead.

berkeleyfarm March 13, 2011 at 11:44 pm

Yeah, me too. I went into the profile, though, and it's the same stalkertoRll who's all mad that Wonkette banninated his ass.

I wasn't commenting when it happened – might not have been reading the Wonkette too much – but it apparently doesn't matter in his revenge fantasy. I can post, he can't, he throws a downfisting tantrum and whines on Breitbart. Way to show me civility, dude!

keepem_sikanpor March 14, 2011 at 12:16 am

I did too. I can understand why it would latch on to you, cuz you're Buddha, but me?
Unions don't suck, they aided in building our (once great) country. If corporations did the right thing, we would be in a much better place. Fuck you, union hater. Probably can't wait for the social security to set in. Do you even know why we have social security?

koreanish March 13, 2011 at 7:59 pm

A state devastated by outsourcing elects a governor who outsourced?

donner_froh March 13, 2011 at 8:21 pm

Other parts of Snyder's budget specifically target the poor and working class while handing money to corporations.

For example he is eliminating the Michigan Earned Income Tax Credit–it piggybacks on the federal EIC and gives an income boost to people with at least one kid who are working but are still below a very low threshold. This was state tax money that went to help the working poor continue to work.

He also plans to tax pension income–there are a lot of UAW retirees here that would really be hurt by this.

At the same time he plans to do away with the Michigan Singe Business Tax which brings in $1.8 billion per year.

Republican/fascist economics at work.

Hope Initiative Party March 13, 2011 at 10:56 pm

Maybe it's just me, but if this is part of the Democratic Process I must have taken the wrong Government Class in College. Something has to be done! Check out our blog post as well.

[redacted]89048 March 14, 2011 at 12:22 am

In other earth-shattering news: RIP Owsley.

Negropolis March 14, 2011 at 1:10 am

Oh, buddy. Well, at least we still have a sense of humor, here:

Fake Twitter account mocks Michigan budget director

By Associated Press

Sunday, March 13, 2011

Michigan budget director John Nixon doesn't have a Twitter account, but like Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, he has attracted a tweeter pretending to be him.

The FakeJohnNixon Twitter account started up last week and already has posted around 150 tweets.

The fake account notes that Nixon is Michigan's highest-paid state employee and is consuming Michigan's economy "one big gargantuan bite at a time." It adds, "Just call me Budget Crunch." It had only 23 followers as of Sunday afternoon and was following 41 other Twitter accounts.

A tweet from Thursday reads, "If pension tax doesn't pass, Gov to start mugging old shoppers in supermarket parking lots."

Negropolis March 14, 2011 at 1:14 am

Apparently, Governor Rick Snyder also has a fake twitter:

- Nolan Finley says I'm not doing enough to screw the unions. At least, not as much as we're screwing seniors – http://t.co/6z7OCTJ 6:18 AM Mar 10th via Twitter for iPad

- Uh oh. Army of Geritol-toting blue hairs planning to protest at the Capitol next Tuesday – http://t.co/lvVwz0n 11:06 AM Mar 9th via Tweet Button

- Moroun hired Dick Morris to fight DRIC? What, Charlie Sheen wasn't available? 5:33 PM Mar 8th via Twitter for iPad

- @FakeJohnNixon has consumed 4 paczki so far this morning, but he ate them with a knife and fork. Dude could eat Christie under the table. 6:12 AM Mar 8th via Twitter for iPad

- Fun weekend in DC, but I lost $20 on a bet. Chris Christie can, in fact, consume 4 KFC Double Downs in under 10 min. 11:32 PM Feb 26th via Twitter for iPad

Camaro Nova March 14, 2011 at 1:41 am

Is anyone else who posted to this thread being stalked/followed by an intense debate user by the name of UnionsRStreetGangs? He has a horribly negative pness and has many teabagger outrage quotes on his ID page …
http://www.intensedebate.com/users/2370767

Natl[redacted]Cmdr March 14, 2011 at 4:01 am

um, hi. i know it's late. but, like 85,000 of us came together on saturday in madison. and, also, one the republican state senators is probably living with his groovy 25-yr-old lady and not his wife. ooops. http://bloggingblue.com/2011/03/11/randy-hopper-f

Negropolis March 14, 2011 at 6:14 am

That it's been weeks and the crowds have been sustained at tens-of-thousands gives me heart that this is the real deal, and the recalls are a forgone conclusion.

Man, the Republicans done really fucked up, now, huh?

Natl[redacted]Cmdr March 14, 2011 at 4:06 am
Camaro Nova March 14, 2011 at 9:19 am

"Shit. I know things are bad right now, with all the dust storms and this starving bullshit, and we're running out of french fries and burrito coverings, but I got a THREE POINT PLAN that will fix EVERYTHING."

reiter331 March 14, 2011 at 10:06 am

Could you cite some sources other than the Rachel Madow show? I'm very curious about this. Thanks.

ghettodiamond March 14, 2011 at 1:26 pm

I am a public-sector union lawyer in Michigan. I can't even joke about this shit (not even to keep from crying). Snyder's going to finish what Engler started many moons ago and run this state completely into the ground. It's like "The Twilight Zone" up in Lansing. *weep*

Ok, wait, I got one:

So there's a CEO, a teabagger, and a union member sitting around a table with 12 cookies between them. The CEO takes 11 of the cookies for himself. The CEO then gestures to the union member and says to the teabagger, "Look, he's trying to take part of your cookie."

Har.

Extempor[redacted] March 11, 2011 at 5:13 pm

Democracy is so 666.

HEXED

Come here a minute March 11, 2011 at 5:26 pm

Democracy is so 80 Proof.

MIXED

Extempor[redacted] March 11, 2011 at 5:39 pm

Democracy is so 86.

NIXED

not that Dewey March 11, 2011 at 6:23 pm

Democracy is so 1913.

TAXED

Fukui_sanYesOta March 11, 2011 at 8:07 pm

Upfist because that really did make me laugh. You socialist.

HistoriCat March 12, 2011 at 3:48 pm

Well, as long as you don't work for NPR you could say that.

tabouley March 12, 2011 at 5:11 pm

Of course they are. When the "Tea party express" came to town twice last year, yes, the TPE that is directly funded by the Koch bros, the crowd was mostly what I would describe as "blue collar', though this is puzzling to me, as t-shirts don't seem to have collars. It's pathetic to consider that these people believe that if the teaparty came to power, they would be in the catbird seat. Taxes would go down, and, ah, teachers would be supplied by the WorkReady team, firefighters would be all volunteer, meaning they would show up if they weren't busy, and felt like it, and nobody would have health insurance unless they were young and healthy, with no pre-existing conditions.
Oh, and if you got e coli from a bad hamburger, and died, your survivors would know not to buy meat in that state again, and would be free to go to another state for their meat purchases.
Handicapped kids would be cared for at home, which is what they did in the old days, when these kids were rightfully ashamed of themselves and stayed indoors, where they belonged, and why would they need to know how to read, anyway!
YAY! For the win, Amerikka!
Best sign seen at the rally in Wisconsin a couple of weeks ago:
No Koch-suckers here!

vodkamuppet March 11, 2011 at 9:55 pm

Well if I made someone laugh, I feel right at home here on Wonkette.

Fukui_sanYesOta March 11, 2011 at 10:05 pm

I'm usually in the gully on both counts

Limeylizzie March 11, 2011 at 10:15 pm

I spend my life in the corridor of uncertainty.

Fukui_sanYesOta March 11, 2011 at 10:26 pm

Sometimes I switch-hit, other times I stroke to long on.

This is utterly incomprehensible to the natives, of course.

comrad_darkness March 11, 2011 at 10:56 pm

Oh, I have to steal that line.

Doktor[redacted] March 12, 2011 at 1:48 am

Lizzie, you always make my wicket sticky.

Or my stick wickety. One of those, for sure.

Extempor[redacted] March 11, 2011 at 10:31 pm

*crickets*

Natl[redacted]Cmdr March 11, 2011 at 10:49 pm

incomprehensible? yes. hilarious? also yes.

onemoretime79 March 11, 2011 at 11:41 pm

Democracy is so demonstrative.

on edit: WORSHIPPED

Doktor[redacted] March 11, 2011 at 11:58 pm

Democracy is so Donald and Daisy.

DUCKED

onemoretime79 March 12, 2011 at 12:30 am

Representative democracy in service of the republic is so quaint

CHOKED

Extemporanus March 12, 2011 at 3:47 am

Democracy is so on, Wisconsin.

BADGERED

Angry_Marmot March 12, 2011 at 3:53 am

Democracy is so screwed.

ROGERED

Extemporanus March 12, 2011 at 4:14 am

[redacted] is so [redacted].

[redacted]

Limeylizzie March 12, 2011 at 7:08 am
Limeylizzie March 12, 2011 at 7:09 am

Oh my God, I have been downfisted so violently that I wil be in negative territory very soon…..help me Wonketteers, I was at 98 a few hours ago and now look at me.

ChessieNefercat March 12, 2011 at 9:20 am

And intelligence.

tabouley March 12, 2011 at 2:07 pm

They will not. They believed that the Prez's trip to India involved 200 million dollars a day, 34 Naval warships, and 200 native bearers. They believed that James O'Keefe, dressed in his Aunt Martha's sheepskin coat from 1956, passed himself off, successfully, as a pimp.
They believed that demonstrators caused 700 milion dollars worth of damage to the Wisconsin State House, primarily from tape being applied to marble columns.
They believed that these same demonstrators were standing next to palm trees in their shirtsleeves.
They believe that when Exxon or Mobil gets the go ahead to drill in the US, (oh, wait, don't they have leases larger than the size of Texas right now?) gasoline prices will magically drop, immediately.
I could go on, but I am depressed enough. Let's change the subject, how's the nuclear reactor in Japan doing?

horsedreamer_1 March 12, 2011 at 8:45 pm

I work in a government office that has mixed private & public sector staff, & let me say — the privately-hired staff are no more competent (in fact, are much less so) than the publicly-hired staff. Gov't work is & will be much more than flipping burgers, then. & I think the GOP elected officials will learn this when their less-fortunate relatives, with public aid cases (namely, health-insurance, since private sector doesn't supply it anymore), start dying 'cause some flunky from a contractor messed up the case.

ChessieNefercat March 13, 2011 at 9:47 am

Although I'm not sure that there are any circumstances under which she would be considered one of the intelligentsia, glasses or not.

baconzgood March 13, 2011 at 1:50 pm

Thank you everyone for making the thinist thread EVER

vodkamuppet March 13, 2011 at 3:33 pm

Ha! The jokes on you because all my personal information was already stolen!

vodkamuppet March 13, 2011 at 3:38 pm

Since the redesign they've been handing out stars like candy, especially to all the right wing trolls that rushed in after all the old commenters left. To even it out they took mine away on the main site for pointing out how shitty the redesign is. Seems fair.

the_problem_child March 13, 2011 at 3:57 pm

Democracy may no longer fit this thread.

TUCKED

Doktor[redacted] March 13, 2011 at 7:55 pm

Democracy is so slim and maybe shady. And Poopy Poop dogged.

ENEMA MANNED

DashboardBuddha March 13, 2011 at 8:23 pm

Oh great…another loser rethuglican living in his mother's basement masturbating furiously. Lol…I can't wait.

user-of-owls March 13, 2011 at 9:30 pm

that'll show him

Do you know how long I've dreamed of seeing those words in a post from you?

*replacing 'him' with 'owls' and blissfully dreaming of…*

[redacted]89048 March 13, 2011 at 8:27 pm

Democracy
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user-of-owls March 13, 2011 at 9:35 pm

Democracy = Karen Carpenter

fatoots March 13, 2011 at 10:18 pm

win

CivicHoliday March 13, 2011 at 11:47 pm

Democracy is a dirty job.

MUCKED

Doktor[redacted] March 14, 2011 at 12:40 am

demo-cracy is so e.e. cum-mings

FARANDWEE

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comrad_darkness March 14, 2011 at 1:45 am

Well, bowl me out, I thought you'd made that up.

Also, it made me think of the Infinite Corridor, but . . . different.

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Come here a minute March 14, 2011 at 5:59 am

"Do not feed the trolls." – Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack

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