• May 26, 2012

Stock Markets Collapse As Investors Quit Deluding Themselves

by Ken Layne  

What’s behind today’s 220-point drop off the cliff for the Dow Jones index, and the nearly 2% collapse in the other big indices? Experts say it’s because the big institutional investors may finally be putting it together that a jobless “recovery” where wages are flat or shrinking for more than 80% of the population is probably unsustainable, especially considering housing is still in its death throes and we are once again saying farewell to the “era of cheap oil” and manufacturing is such a tiny part of our worthless “service economy” that even gains in that sector are ultimately unimportant.

Gah, even GOLD is falling, and we have been literally carrying a couple of gold doubloons in our pockets, this week, waiting for the spot price to climb enough to cash out and maybe pay our taxes or something. GLENN BECK PLEASE TELL US WHAT MOOSLIM TO BLAME FOR THE GOLD GOING DOWN TWENTY BUCKS AN OUNCE TODAY, ugh.

Here are some other random reasons for everything turning to poop again, from Marketwatch:

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — U.S. blue-chip stocks on Tuesday suffered their biggest intraday drop since October and dragged the Dow Jones Industrial Average below 12,000, as disappointing news about claims for unemployment benefits compounded Wall Street’s worries about trade in China and European sovereign debt.

{ 108 comments }

Native_of_SL_UT March 10, 2011 at 2:46 pm

Well there goes the ol 401K again. That's OK though, I wasn't going to use it today.
Now I can buy stocks on sale next payday.

Lascauxcaveman March 10, 2011 at 3:24 pm

I keep trying to time my re-entry into the stock market, but that perky lil' Dow Jones always just jumps way back up before I can get off my butt and look up the passwords for my on-line brokerage accounts.

This time, for sure.

Barbara_i March 10, 2011 at 2:46 pm

According to Mrs. Beck, gold prices and Glenn's ratings aren't the only things plummeting.

harry_palmer March 10, 2011 at 2:49 pm

Time for another round of bonuses for the Wall Streeters. And cancel some more public-employee pensions, so we can afford another bailout.

GuanoFaucet March 10, 2011 at 3:00 pm

Don't forget about tax cuts. Tax cuts for the top 1% solve all economic problems.

SorosBot March 10, 2011 at 3:18 pm

Along with wars; time to invade Iran! Er, uh Libya!

SayItWithWookies March 10, 2011 at 3:23 pm

What, and leave Egypt just sitting there?

outragedcitizen March 10, 2011 at 3:43 pm

Oh, what the fuck, let's invade both of 'em! We don't have the troops or money to invade either or for that matter the other two we are already losing, so why the hell not?

Lost_Teabaggers March 11, 2011 at 12:13 am

Speaking of Libya and Egypt I was arguing with this wingnut the other day and without even taking time to breath he accused Obama of being a big government commonist and accused him of handing Egypt and Libya to muslins….they aren't even trying anymore, it's like they can't even hear their own voices.

DashboardBuddha March 11, 2011 at 11:08 am

A rising tide floats all boats.

Ducksworthy March 10, 2011 at 3:01 pm

The pension funds have already been used to pay Wall Street bonuses. There's nothing left in there but IOU's and used condoms.

Lost_Teabaggers March 11, 2011 at 12:17 am

Hey now, those bonuses were contracted out! It's not like the government can just go around voiding contracts willy nilly to suit it's own purposes…oh wait, nevermind. The difference between a human and a teabagger is a human wouldn't finish that thought because of the rush of cognitive dissonance while not only will a teabagger finish it, they'll praise Walker for going and willy nilly voiding the public union contracts. These people aren't exactly the soul of subtlety, sophistication or deep thinking.

ManchuCandidate March 10, 2011 at 2:53 pm

This is a downfisting that makes sense to me.

Jason_inthe_Peg March 10, 2011 at 2:56 pm

Feels like a plan old fisting to me.

BaldarTFlagass March 10, 2011 at 2:54 pm

Guess I won't put that refrigerator box out for the trashman to pick up tomorrow after all.

chicken[redack] March 10, 2011 at 2:58 pm

You were stupid enough to buy something in this down economy? Jesus, you're not a very smart capitalist.

BaldarTFlagass March 10, 2011 at 3:09 pm

Nah. Since I'm not getting any raises for a coupla years, I've taken a second job as a truck hijacker. Free large appliances are one of the bennies.

[redacted]Crusher March 10, 2011 at 5:47 pm

Ah, a entrepreneur.

elviouslyqueer March 10, 2011 at 2:56 pm

In the U.S., the Labor Department reported that initial claims for unemployment benefits unexpectedly rose for the week ended March 5.

Where are the jerbs, Boehner?

Gopherit March 10, 2011 at 2:58 pm

That's okay. I guarantee those motherfuckers at exxon will have yet another quarter of record profits.

JadedDissonance March 10, 2011 at 3:12 pm

I don't have anything to say anymore.

[redacted]Crusher March 10, 2011 at 5:49 pm

But yet, the other day when President Obama suggested opening up the strategic oil reserve to put more oil in the system and drive down gas prices, the wingnuts lost their minds on that suggestion. They would rather see another economic collapse due to rising oil prices.

freakishlywrong March 10, 2011 at 2:59 pm

Meh. I'll watch the market when all of my social security is handed to those greedy fucks to gamble with.

[redacted]Crusher March 10, 2011 at 5:52 pm

I point that out to my Republiklan friends that complain that their 401K's are taking a hit. I figured that trying to privatize Social Security was a long term goal of enslaving the working class in this country.
Little did I know that the plan was to tank the economy within four years.

Ducksworthy March 10, 2011 at 2:59 pm

Wait until the GOOPers refuse to raise the debt ceiling. Welcome to 1934.

GuyClinch March 10, 2011 at 3:00 pm

I'm putting all my money ($12.48) into vodka.

hagajim March 10, 2011 at 4:06 pm

Cheap vodka at that

GuyClinch March 10, 2011 at 4:14 pm

Popov, baby! Poopov! I mean Popov.

tessiee March 10, 2011 at 7:42 pm

Save some for the pitchforks and torches, though.

SorosBot March 10, 2011 at 3:01 pm

Thanks, GOP, for eliminating jobs and economy-boosting public aid that would have helped the recovery to continue!

DaRooster March 10, 2011 at 4:06 pm

We can't have any of that shit… there's still people to fuck over (somewhere) and as always… an election coming

(Unless Newt is involved… it'll then be an erection cumming.)

SmutBoffin March 10, 2011 at 3:01 pm

Was anybody at the meeting where America decided that it wanted to be a nation of people who all work at Walmart selling each other Chinese crap?

Whose idea was this?

freakishlywrong March 10, 2011 at 3:05 pm

See: Years 2000-2008.

nounverb911 March 10, 2011 at 3:05 pm

Ronald Reagan?

GuyClinch March 10, 2011 at 3:08 pm

I was supposed to be there but I spilled some Mountain Dew Extreme on my Hoveround's controls and it stopped working. Finally 2 days later the UPS guy discovered me when he was delivering my QVC "Precious Angel" doll.

V572625694 March 10, 2011 at 3:23 pm

"Mountain Dew Extreme"? Is that a thing?

GuyClinch March 10, 2011 at 3:30 pm

I can't imagine it's not.

Rotundo_ March 10, 2011 at 6:12 pm

You would be horrorstruck to see the new "variants" of Dew coming out: Flavors, colors and sweetening agents not remotely heard of in nature. I always thought Futurama was joking about Slurm. Someone in the marketing business ran with that ball.

SorosBot March 10, 2011 at 3:19 pm

Ayn Rand's.

nounverb911 March 10, 2011 at 3:21 pm

Is there a Walmart in Galt's Gulch?

SorosBot March 10, 2011 at 4:02 pm

Yes, but it has no staff, because none of the superior overlords who are now starving to death will stoop to such low-level work.

tessiee March 10, 2011 at 7:44 pm

Really, if my choice were between starving to death and working at Wal-Mart, I'd have to stop and think it over.

zhubajie March 10, 2011 at 6:18 pm

Metro and Carre Four, too.

zhubajie March 10, 2011 at 6:17 pm

They thought they'd all be selling each other stocks and bonds.

Bluestatelibel March 10, 2011 at 7:18 pm

Actually, an Akron, Ohio, Walmart greeter idly floated the idea with a few colleagues back in 2003 while on cigarette break, and the whole thing just took off from there. In retrospect, he says he was only kidding, but the whole thing had already taken off.

nounverb911 March 10, 2011 at 3:03 pm

Boehner's getting a boner on this news.

nounverb911 March 10, 2011 at 3:04 pm

"GLENN BECK PLEASE TELL US WHAT MOOSLIM TO BLAME FOR THE GOLD GOING DOWN TWENTY BUCKS AN OUNCE TODAY."

Allah is not amused with Peter King either.

ifthethunderdontgetya March 10, 2011 at 3:08 pm

Business news from Ken Layne.

Hey, it's o.k. people! I made some money on CAT puts.

So I can afford hobo beans for a few more months.
~

Jukesgrrl March 10, 2011 at 4:28 pm

The Chinese will need them to move the rubble when Bachmann's U.S. America® implodes.

EdFlintstone March 10, 2011 at 3:11 pm

The MSM media remains perplexed why an economy built on rich people and family dollar/dollar general clerks is not taking off.

hagajim March 10, 2011 at 4:07 pm

That's because the MSM is full to tools like David Broder…and he's dead.

zhubajie March 10, 2011 at 6:20 pm

It's how the typical 3rd world country runs. It has been obvious for decades now that both parties are mis-managing the country in the typical 3rd world oligarchy style. The results are pretty predictable! Look at the Manila slums to see your future!

Bluestatelibel March 10, 2011 at 7:19 pm

Worked just fine for Russia, France, etc.

MinAgain March 10, 2011 at 3:18 pm

I am never going to be able to retire.

Jukesgrrl March 10, 2011 at 4:29 pm

Get ready for the twenty-somethings to hate you even more than they already do.

jus_wonderin March 10, 2011 at 5:34 pm

And I really thought I had outgrown Mom's garage. Mom? Get that Grand Marquis out of there!!!!

Rotundo_ March 10, 2011 at 6:17 pm

Basically modern retirement will consist of living on your "life savings" for a couple months and then firing a pistol round in your noggin. At least it will be brief. Velkommen auf Amerika 2011 kids!

tessiee March 10, 2011 at 7:45 pm

I might, but I have to find a job first.

DashboardBuddha March 11, 2011 at 11:10 am

Me neither…but I understand death is restful.

SorosBot March 10, 2011 at 3:20 pm

Along with Pabst, Spam and generic store brands.

Monsieur_Grumpe March 10, 2011 at 5:04 pm

And off brand Mac N Cheese. None of that expensive Kaft stuff for me!

jus_wonderin March 10, 2011 at 5:30 pm

I do really think we should stick to the canned good. They will last in the bomb shelter and if one happens to spoil, well, you can make money on the side injecto-calming the faces of wealthy junior leaguers.

Lionel[redacted]Esq March 10, 2011 at 3:21 pm

And you all laughed at my portfolio of Shot Gun Shells and Canned Beans.

Jukesgrrl March 10, 2011 at 4:31 pm

I'm in Baja Arizona so I changed it to Automatic Weapon Ammo and Dried Chorizo. But thanks for the tip.

zhubajie March 10, 2011 at 7:44 pm

Check out Dimitri Orlov's essays on the collapse of the Soviet Union. He recommends laying is stocks of things everyone needs to buy but which are not bulky. Like booze, pot, nails, screws, flashlight batteries, condoms…. Also, make friends with your neighbors. That's always better than an arsenal.

Callyson March 10, 2011 at 3:22 pm

"GLENN BECK PLEASE TELL US WHAT MOOSLIM TO BLAME FOR THE GOLD GOING DOWN TWENTY BUCKS AN OUNCE TODAY."
He's trying to choose between Barack, Michelle, Sasha and Malia. He'll get back to us with a detailed chart later tonight.

Jukesgrrl March 10, 2011 at 4:32 pm

On his "black" board.

SmutBoffin March 10, 2011 at 3:24 pm

first they ignore you
then they ridicule you
then they fight you <———- YOU ARE HERE
then you win

SayItWithWookies March 10, 2011 at 3:31 pm

Hey maybe this will prompt the Republicans to look 30 years of supply-side economics in the face and realize it's complete shit, just like Dubya's dad said in 1979 when he called Reagan's tax cut plans "voodoo economics." Or maybe we'll all just get a lecture from Joel Osteen about how we need to love The LORD more if we really want to get rich.

zhubajie March 10, 2011 at 6:22 pm

The Rep(tiles) will blame the usual scapegoats and perhaps turn to killing them (at home, not abroad).

Mumbletypeg March 10, 2011 at 3:32 pm

Thanks Ken for delivering the goods. I hadn't reached my quota of pain yet. It was important, as just this morning over the speakers, Magnetic Fields were telling me "I need a new hu-uuuuuuuuu-ur–ur-urrrrrt" ♫

I'm off work for a long weekend in about an hour, got to make the most of what's left in raise-less, pension-less, perk-less desk labor: staycation days that roll over the longer I'm too broke to spend nuthin' on traveling anywheres.

[redacted]89048 March 10, 2011 at 3:38 pm

SELL!!!1!! No, wait–BUY!!!1!
This is why I failed as a hedge fund manager, isn't it?

HistoriCat March 10, 2011 at 4:29 pm

That's OK – you get a bonus anyway.

tessiee March 10, 2011 at 7:49 pm

Well, that, and your habit of throwing staplers at your supervisors.

Oblios_Cap March 10, 2011 at 3:42 pm

I don't blame Charlie Sheen for going on a fuck-all bender. What else is there to do?

That bastard's looking like a genius now!

GuyClinch March 10, 2011 at 3:53 pm

Well yeah, I reckon he is, but I can't even afford a suitcase-full of baking powder, much less the good stuff.

[redacted]Crusher March 10, 2011 at 5:56 pm

He may go broke, but at least he can look back on those halycon days of hookers and coke.

DaRooster March 10, 2011 at 4:01 pm

With or without the 2 chunks of pork(ish) fat?

Cuz you can burn them there for heat.

hagajim March 10, 2011 at 4:08 pm

Here's the reality kids…the big boys profit took the shit out of the market today (after setting up short sells) so they made money both coming and going….now we are headed for the wonderful double dip brought about by high gas prices and lost public sector jobs that the GOP can't wait to get rid of…what I can't understand is why we are following the same path that Roosevelt did in the 30s….doesn't anybody even think about looking at a fucking history book anymore?

Jukesgrrl March 10, 2011 at 4:34 pm

They were all burned in Texas.

KenLayIsAlive March 10, 2011 at 4:36 pm

They're too busy rewriting them to read them anymore.

zhubajie March 10, 2011 at 6:25 pm

Of course not. How many can read? Let alone something that requires stopping and thinking now and then?

zhubajie March 10, 2011 at 6:27 pm

I heard BBC interview Eric Hobsbawm (famous Marxist historian, age 91) at the beginning of the crisis. They asked if he felt like gloating at being proven right. He said, No. But when he'd heard political and business types say the business cycle had been abolished, he'd been confident that they were wrong.

tessiee March 10, 2011 at 7:50 pm

"doesn't anybody even think about looking at a fucking history book anymore?"

Not the people in charge of making economic policy.

BlueStateLibel March 10, 2011 at 4:13 pm

Now that Americans can no longer afford to buy the Chinese slave-made trinkets and gadgets, and the Chinese are too smart/poor to buy the stuff themselves, Wall Street finally puts two-and-two together.

ttommyunger March 10, 2011 at 4:40 pm

Oh, Wall Street put it together, all right.

zhubajie March 10, 2011 at 6:28 pm

Most Chinese people still know how to raise their own food. Hence the urban gardens everywhere I look.

KenLayIsAlive March 10, 2011 at 4:38 pm

Seems like a great time put one's trust in a randomly selected snowbilly grifter.

zhubajie March 10, 2011 at 6:29 pm

G-d talks to her every time she gets a wild hair up her wazoo!

tessiee March 10, 2011 at 7:52 pm

That's sorta like saying when you have the stomach flu is a great time to slam your hand in a car door.

ttommyunger March 10, 2011 at 4:40 pm

Buckle up, its going to be a bumpy ride.

lochnessmonster March 10, 2011 at 5:17 pm

They'll just say it's another "adjustment" as they put their hands in their pockets…

tessiee March 10, 2011 at 7:51 pm

in our pockets…

Fixed that for ya.

BarackMyWorld March 10, 2011 at 5:40 pm

My official Republican Talking Points™ flowchart says I'm supposed to blame Obama for this.

jus_wonderin March 10, 2011 at 5:49 pm

Is that the flowchart that looks like the Wasilla Hockey Team playbook that ends in Bristol?

tessiee March 10, 2011 at 7:53 pm

I believe that's the official High School Dropout Sluts [tm] flowchart.

Steverino247 March 10, 2011 at 5:57 pm

When the assholes who mainpulate the market feel they've cleaned out enough suckers, the stock market will rise again.

zhubajie March 10, 2011 at 7:47 pm

Don't assume they are smarter than the rest of us. Otherwise, they'd make sure everyone had enough money to buy crap.

donner_froh March 10, 2011 at 6:10 pm

Marketwatch editors are such masters of understatement: Wall Street’s worries about trade in China and European sovereign debt:

Europe: Greek debt got downgraded yesterday; Spanish debt got whacked today. If this continues it will lead to riots in the streets, cities in flames, blood running in the gutters, all out civil war throughout Europe.

China: reported a net trade deficit for February, the first one in six years. Nothing to worry about here other than the end of the fucking world.

Good times coming.

zhubajie March 10, 2011 at 7:50 pm

China's deficit is to Japan, to buy efficient factory machines. Most Chinese factory owners would prefer to buy US made machines. (You can't imagine how hated the Japs are.) But the US has won't sell anything that might have some military application. So "You want to buy our lead pencils? NO! The PLA might use them!" Seriously: I once helped a guy write a visa application so he could buy new paper-making machines for his paper mill. We could sell a lot of things to China, but we refuse. Even their soybeans come from Brazil!

Cat_Damon March 10, 2011 at 6:23 pm

Listen, I don't know what any of this means. But it can't be good.

JoeBiteme March 10, 2011 at 6:38 pm

Most of us have been taking it in the ass for several years now, so who fucking cares if the market crashes. With any luck some of these assholes will swan dive out of their office windows and lighten the mood.

tessiee March 10, 2011 at 7:54 pm

JUMP!! JUMP!!! JUMP!!!!

Lost_Teabaggers March 11, 2011 at 1:54 am

I like your avatar picture thingy…now if we can just add "unemployed and spat on" to douche we'll have self regulated the market of a major league asshole. Speaking of major league assholes…a great irony just occured to me regarding Rick Scott in Florida. So, old people, retirees on medicare were mobilized into the teabagger partly because of the GOP's deceptive claim about cuts to medicare (deceptive because the "cuts" were just ending the medicare advantage privatization scheme, the advantage meaning of course advantage-insurace companies) and Rick Scott was somehow rehabilitated by the teabagger party (the gall on this asshole is immense, his entire reason for being in the teabagger party was because of HCR, even though he's exhibit A for why we should have socialized medicine and not just HCR). The old people, afeared for them ther medicare went and elected the biggest fraud against medicare in history; historians will need years to figure out how THAT happened. Metaphorically it's like the spider talking the fly into its web and getting the fly to bring along friends with it; fucking morons.

Hatrabbit March 10, 2011 at 6:51 pm

HAHAHA I don't have any stocks. Even if I did, I don't have anywhere in my cardboard box house to put 'em. HAHAHA Fuck you bankers-take that market collapse right up your ass HAHAHA

*goes back to quietly sobbing*

tessiee March 10, 2011 at 7:39 pm

*kicks Ken in the ankle under the table*
Shadduuuuuppp!!
Ix-nay on the ock-market-stay!
Do you want to start a recession?

tessiee March 10, 2011 at 7:56 pm

Years ago, there was a joke to the effect that there's no more crime in New York City, because everything has already been stolen. Maybe now that nobody in the bottom 99% has any more money left, we'll have to go after the only folks that have any money left, the top 1%.
Hello?
Anyone?
Is this thing on?

Beanball March 11, 2011 at 4:24 am

There will be blood on the streets of New Haven.

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