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Scenes From a War: Madison After the Union-Busting Bill


Well, they did it — probably unconstitutionally, certainly amorally, but the Wisconsin state senate Republicans crammed through their union-crushing bill tonight, and the response wasn’t very happy from the union workers and protesters and plain decent people of Wisconsin (and beyond) gathered for so long in Madison.

And what might be the national goal here, as far as 2012?

Ha ha, don’t worry, Obama doesn’t care about union members. He’ll just get the money from Gadaffi or something.

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299 comments

    1. di_da_is_alpha

      Yeah, they'd best watch it. I got a Savage .308, Ruger Mini 14, Mossberg 12 ga. and a Taurus P-845. What're you bringing to the fight?

          1. di_da_is_alpha

            You mean "Kelsey GRAMMAR"? Hahahahahahah Keep digging before your momma takes your shovel away.

        1. di_da_is_alpha

          Oh no, for compensating I have a bayonet. I just need to get an M-1 Springfield to mount it on. : )

          1. Boojum_Reborn

            Yes, the only mounting you will be doing is on a rifle.

            My only question is whether you fix the bayonet before you mount your rifle or afterwards?

    2. Tears of the Dung

      Yeah, I've always known that peopled who don't want to be held accountable for anything including their passage through their lives were all such a bunch of hardasses that I should live in fear of them and who join labor collectives (gangs) to rob me because they're too afraid to confront me directly for my wealth and materiality and who have to use the force of government to get others to provide them health insurance were forces to fear. Get a job, CrossDresser. Ha ha ha. I'm quaking in your red, patent leather stilletoes.

      1. Boojum_Reborn

        Really? Want to meet me in Somalia and see how long you keep your "wealth" (bag of Cheetos)?

        1. The Onanator

          Make a wrong (Left) turn? What are you doing in Somalia? Or just hangin' with your Muslim butt buddies?

          1. Boojum_Reborn

            It always comes down to ass fucking with you guys, doesn't it? Always obsessed with wriggling your peen around in excrement, preferably that of a young boy.

            Do you really think your Cheetoh money would remain yours without laws and law enforcement to keep it in your grubby paws? I mean, pretend all you want; Mom's basement is not really the Fortress of Solitude.

          2. The Onanator

            "It always comes down to ass fucking with you guys, doesn't it?"

            This from one of the denizens of darkness and delusion that is the Wankette? I've never seen as many perineal references in a urologist's office. BTW, you don't think Muzzies are Sodomites and goatf*ck*rs? Don't hate the messenger because you don't like the message.
            http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2009/06/13/is

          3. Boojum_Reborn

            Is that why you are here?  I mean, you obviously don’t agree with anything said on this site, so I have to assume it was the smell of sweet, sweet santorum that caused you to drift our way.

          4. The Onanator

            "Is that why you are here? I mean, you obviously don’t agree with anything said on this site,"

            Got herd mentality much?

          5. Boojum_Reborn

            Oh, and neither of us should start criticizing people for goat-fucking.  I mean, I’m from Tennessee and your Dad had sex with your Mom, so….

          6. The Onanator

            My father-in-law is from Chattanooga–what's your point? Regarding my deceased father's and mother's activities–got a link to that? Or is this that puerile-insults-are-better-than-truth things I've heard so much about as applied to the "smart set?"

      2. DashboardBuddha

        Bold words from a person who self-identifies himself as a serial pope polisher. Do you have to shave your palms much when you handle your "gun"?

        1. The Onanator

          "Bold words from a person who self-identifies himself as a serial pope polisher."

          Got a link to that or is it just another of your delusions? No need to answer–I intend to do adult things today and it's probably going to be a long day. BTW, get a job.

          1. The Onanator

            Sure. It's a generator manufacturer. People who work for a living know that.

            Had you not lapsed so quickly into that we're-smarter-than-you mode and read my profile, you would have seen that, indeed, I do know the story on that, Dullard. Bad try, though.

      3. KenLayIsAlive

        Haha. Another Brietbot retard come by to play.

        You all are fucking freaking out because you're about to lose big time. But see if you can squeeze in a few more faggot jokes before you lose, will ya? It's fostering the goodwill.

        Pay your taxes or go to jail you selfish piece of shit. Collective bargaining is here to stay you cunt – whether you like it or not.

        1. The Onanator

          Dear KenDelayedDevelopment, wrong on all counts but let that stop you from enjoying your delusions. BTW, got any links to . . . reality?

          1. Pithaughn

            well well. Delusions eh? My great grandfather was the only survivor of a mine explosion in Telluride. He then became a leader in the union movement. The mine owners were so frightened of the union movement that they hired some Pinkerton thugs to lynch him. I'm here today because he fled over Ophir pass at night in horse drawn wagon. The unions won then and they will win again, it is simple math. There are way more of us than you. Even Gatling guns did not stop the union strikers who had only sticks and pitchforks.

          2. The Onanator

            I'm sure you had a point. I've been in four or five unions. Got tired of having my potential (wages, promotions, etc.) being limited by having multiple bosses (union and company) but, if being owned is your cup of tea, have at it. Instead of artificially inflated compensation provided to me by labor collectives, I got a degree and recaptured my right to self-determination, and advancement of all types, Serf.

          3. KenLayIsAlive

            Haha. Well, we can't all be as bright as you I guess. Some people actually want to do their jobs, and aren't primadonnas like yourself. Some people see the value in an honest days work of teaching kids or fighting fires for an honest days pay, where as a yuppie cunt like yourself is always looking out for "me me me." Look at you "working" away right now, engaging in internet flame wars. People like yourself are a god damned joke. You can come blabber all you want, it isn't going to change the facts on the ground in Wisconsin or anywhere else.

            PS – what part of freedom of association has you all confused?

          4. Pithaughn

            Thanks KenL, I have 3 jobs, none of them unionized and have not had a chance to respond to that DickT. I would add that one of the positives of unionization is that the strong protect the weak , you know, one of the core principles of civilization.

  1. missemish

    Can I give you a too-long hug and a sloppy smooch, Wonkette? You and wine have gotten me through my home-state's crisis thus far, and I expect you to be there for the long haul.

    1. OC_Surf_Serf

      We are with yous Wisconsiners, (Wisconsinites, Wisconsinagainians?)…all the way

      …'cause we have nowhere else to go…

          1. horsedreamer_1

            I'm not a collegiate douchebag, anymore, nor was I at the time. Didn't go to UW-Madison, nor another state univ. system campus; didn't rush a frat. Instead, I went to the sub-1000-enrollment lib-arts campus in the birthplace of the Republican Party. & I finished my degree. Which should be two things making me more qualified to be Governor than the actual Governor. &, eh, I prefer Sconny.

          2. WIDTAP

            I thought your Republican State Senators were insisting on making "Slobs" official.

            Wisconsin Pride and all.

      1. Doktor[Redacted]

        Thanks for fighting the good fight, N[r]C; who knows, maybe it ain't done yet. Fuckers.

        EDIT: "If there was a law they was workin' with maybe we could take it, but it ain't the law. They're workin' away our spirits, tryin' to make us cringe and crawl, takin' away our decency." — Tom Joad

        1. horsedreamer_1

          Always been a Midnite Vultures fan, & I think these protests could use some leather.

          1. [redacted]withPalin

            The Good [redacted] Fairy waves her Upfisting Dust at you (which is a way of saying I would give you multiple upfists if I could).
            Fixted!

    1. Extempor[redacted]

      My [redacted] swells with pride over this unprecedented showing of [redacted].

      While deep down I know that it will be (should be?) but a feverish and fleeting thing, I shall [redacted] in its [redacted] for as long as it may last.

      I fucking [redacted] you guys!

      1. Radio[redacted]™

        Right [redacted] back at ya.
        May we never see your [redacted] anus again!
        We're more [redacted] up than palinman at one of her [redacted] Costco book signings.

        1. Doktor[Redacted]

          The people, [redacted],
          Can never be [redacted]!

          Hey-hey! Ho-ho! [Redacted] [Redacted] has got to go!

          What do we want? [Redactions]!
          When do we want it? [Redacted]!

    2. Lionel[redacted]Esq

      I'm in for a penny, in honor of brave free Wisconsinites.

      Liberté, égalité, fraternité!

  2. undeterredbyreality

    (Copied from other thread):

    I don't know how to link to a single tweet, so I'm copying it here: (from @ClaraJeffery)
    See the committee that passed #wiunion busting move in action. Skip to minute 2. Whoa http://bit.ly/fSaV5s

  3. memzilla

    It's no coincidence that this month celebrates both Women's History and Colon-Rectal Cancer Awareness — it's all part of the Republitards' anti-choice, anti-union "War On Wimmenz" a**-f***ing of women for the past 30 years.

    Ever notice how the Republitards leave the male-dominated R-voting unions like firemen and policeman alone, but keep f***ing with unions which have a lot of women, like teachers and gummint workers?

    1. Doktor[Redacted]

      The police and firefighters supported Walker.

      Just the once, of course. But it was enough.

      1. Rush_Oxycontin

        Exactly. Walker is only on a crusade to bust the unions who did not support him.

        On the bright side, his political career is over.

    2. karen

      Here in Ohio our new Fuhrer has not exempted the manly professions (police, fire, staties) from his union busting bill. The IAFF locals are rallying against him, along with many from the FOP. It's truly become class warfare, and quite frankly I wish some of our democrats looked and sounded a bit more like the ones in Wisconsin. In any case, the unions are organizing petitions, we're looking forward to a ballot measure in November.

      Solidarity, Wisconsinites!

  4. dyedwool

    Is it too early to start the fight to repeal Scott Walker? Then every Republican official in WI? Then the entire Republican party, everywhere? Then, just for good measure…every MORAN, everywhere? Then a recall of all assholes? And while we're on the subject, all boring people? Also. Thanks.

    1. SudsMcKenzie

      It takes 400k registered voters to sign the recall petition, then you have to wait a year, then convince all the "Up North" rednecks he's Grey Davis.

      1. Jukesgrrl

        But in the meantime, a few of the stupid legislators are on the chopping block. On, Wisconsin!

        1. SudsMcKenzie

          We have to convince the Up North people he's like Jeff Gordon, … it will be tough, like the Bristol short track.

          1. horsedreamer_1

            To take it back a few years, I believe what Scott Walker & the Fitzgerald Boys have done is follow their plurality of registered voters triumph with an unironic Polish Victory Lap.

          2. SudsMcKenzie

            OK, my implied analogy was
            " as great as seeing Jeff Gordon crash in turn three"

            …..

            … yeah, I'll buy the first round.

  5. donner_froh

    Scott Fitzgerald my ass. That guy looks like he couldn't write is name (although he is probably pretty good with a shopping list) let alone "The Great Gatsby".

    1. undeterredbyreality

      I'm pretty sure the "F" they're using in front of this Scott Fitzgerald's name doesn't stand for "Francis."

      1. trampndirtdown

        Fuck this I'm sitting here getting pissed (in more ways than one) and thinking I wasn't born yet for Montgomery, in diapers for Chicago, I'll see you Saturday!

    1. horsedreamer_1

      Got-damn you half-wit Ayn Randian tools, you do it to me everytime. Oh, the Fitzgeralds said they are wonderful fellows, & the independent voters were jello, baby.

  6. hagajim

    Wow! I have nothing. General strike, even if it's just for a week…you must have the balls…cause Barry don’t.

  7. The_Great_Gazoo

    I heard that this vote gave David Koch an erection for the first time in a decade. Still waiting on verification from the governor's office, howver.

    1. Radio[redacted]™

      I would bet both Koch's had woodies when Obama caved last December. As for Walker, his cross-eyedness just got worse.

    2. cheaphits

      Unofficial word from the governors office is that despite Walker and his staff's best efforts (hours of phone sex and flying young aides to the site for "hands on") only a semi-erect state was launched. However a full blown blue vainer is anticipated when they call out the tanks on the crowd.

      Now, on the other hand the people on The Blaze (Beck's new Website) all have raging diamond cutters – some samples –

      "What a bunch of freakin animals!"

      "Should be shot…"

      "Lets clean up the mess … and let the state of Wisconsin get back to work. All of the out of area … losers go home … either to your home state … or your home country."

      "WE, the U.S.A. are a REPUBLIC!!!!!!! To say we are a Democracy is the same as calling a cake-flour."

      "You are so right and Obama has planned for this. Check out BQI’s homepage “U.S. Prepares for Civil Unrest“ also see the new article ”An Assault on America From Within”.

      "Long haired, maggot infested, dope smoking, thug wannabes."

      "Call in the Tanks and snipers"
      http://www.theblaze.com/stories/shock-videos-capt

      A hard rain is gonna fall.

  8. PresBeeblebrox

    Bbb—ut, Rachel said last night that "we won"!

    Right. General strike in WI. No teachers, court clerks, trash collectors, nurses, heavy equipment operators, heat & frost insulators, cops, firefighters.., fuck Walker.

    Corbett's new budget in PA isn't much better, except it doesn't fuck with unions…yet. Today Madison, tomorrow Harrisburg.

  9. donner_froh

    Motherfucker. I just watched the interview with fuckhead Fitzgerald for the second time and he really did make it clear that the attack on collective bargaining had nothing to do with the budget (which no one has believed for weeks anyway) and all about getting the African out of the White House.

    This is insanity when the enemy comes on TV and rubs everyone's face in his corrupt victory over the decomposing body politic of Wisconsin–and he will probably get away with it.

    1. snoopyfan2010

      I wouldn't be surprised if some people in Wisconsin who support this move like it for that reason. They probably think that people who support the current president don't deserve jobs anyway.

  10. MilwaukeeKent

    There's a French-Canadian saying that "If you have to eat a lot of frogs, eat the ugliest one first." It has real utility in tasks around the house or at work. Now I realize it doesn't quite apply in politics. In choosing Wisconsin to spearhead their nationwide (soon if not quite yet, the assholes are going for broke) Union busting effort the now Bircher GOP of the new Gilded Age chose exactly the wrong state and fortunately (for my side) exactly the wrong ham-handed governor to get the ball rolling. Hell, we wrote half the laws protecting workers and AFSCME was born here, people were killed fighting for unions and the 8 hour day.

    Massive over-reach. The weasels never in Hell would have won in November if they had been open and honest about their intentions.

      1. MilwaukeeKent

        Tosa is probably going from Red to Blue just like the North Shore already has. Several swing districts and cities are likely doing the same statewide, but too much inside baseball already. Walker may have inadvertently done the Democrats a great big favor. Maybe even the labor movement, the protests have made unions popular among the kids these days, hip like Pabst Blue Ribbon. Wanted to post the Wayne's World movie clip of Alice Cooper talkin' up Mil-wau-kay, but the copyright lawyers have decided to save the rights and kill the product.

        1. CookiE_MonstA

          Political jujitsu, they have over extended their thrust, now we must make the most effective parry and riposte.

      2. horsedreamer_1

        Brookfield's still the same — true story: physician living out there, one day, his wife was greeted by the kids streaming into the kitchen & beseeching, "There are black people down the street — why?", only for the mother to respond, "Oh, those are Oprah's relatives; they're the Good Ones" — but Tosa, Walker being from here, be damned, is turning (ever-so-slightly).

    1. Negropolis

      Bingo. If they wanted to try this in the Great Lakes, and have it be the national model, they should have made an example of Ohio and Indiana. Both those states are getting some attention, but they wanted Wisconsin to be the crown jewel. So much for that. Now, your crown jewel is encrusted in a fine layer of shit.

      How's that union-bustingy thingy goin' for you, douchebags.

  11. Rcrumbudgeon

    So in a lot of governing bodies, any action taken during a meeting that was not considered "open," i.e. they didn't give proper notification in the legals and so on, all action taken can be considered void. I noticed the lone Democratic rep made some noise about the meeting not being open. Anyone have ideas for ramifications of this in Wisconsin?

  12. Natl_Indecency_Cmdr

    thanks for reporting on this, ken. it may all look fairly chaotic, but it's entirely peaceful. i actually got a sore throat from yelling 'peaceful protest' over and over again. which is kind of funny, when you think about it.

    1. Ken Layne

      It's peaceful as long as the noise is coming from yelling, and not guns. Let's hope it stays that way, despite all the wingnut jackoff fantasies of shooting you all.

      1. Natl[redacted]Cmdr

        these cops are not anywhere near shooting. this ain't kent state and these professional law enforcement officers are entirely good-natured and on our side and only a little tired. but even tired, professional cops know to not start shooting when there is no threat.

        1. SmutBoffin

          They have performed admirably! Even the out-of-town guards at the Capitol, who are not accustomed to dealing with peaceful, rebellious Madisonians.

          1. Ken Layne

            Not the cops! The cops there have been Saints. I mean the wingnuts with their gun-teddy-bears who like to post twitters about using live ammo, etc.

          2. horsedreamer_1

            The reconstituted Michigan Militia is only a ferry ride from Ludington to Manitowoc away from raising hell.

      2. MilwaukeeKent

        That's the thing. I've been watching the live footage tonight and the mood is more grim, with the police worried about structural failure in the Capitol, the interior walkways in particular, biggest crowd ever inside. The police were overwhlemed at an entrance, which is why how est. 8 thousand are inside. The Capitol Police Chief wants everyone out. Quiet so far but it's hard to get the live action. What I see tells my gut instinct that anyone there with children or even a disabilty might want to leave. Those"This is a Peaceful Protest" signs are more important than ever going forward.

          1. [redacted]byreality

            Is there some kind of PM system on this IntenseDebate thing? (I've wondered this for a while, now.) How y'all gonna find each other?

          2. [redacted]byreality

            You could always meet at Ian's with your bright yellow "Don't Teabag on Me" Wonkette T-shirts! (Ken–you need to send all remaining stock up to Wisconsin STAT!)

    2. SmutBoffin

      Fuck, the Republicans don't have an exit strategy here (do they ever?), and it is illegal for the public employee unions to strike. Scott Walker cannot realistically arrest 12,000 people with the relatively few cops he has on his side, but the National Guard could, I suppose, which is something Scotty has already threatened.

      1. [redacted]89048

        If Obamar finds his comfortable shoes, and testicles, he should immediately Fedaralize the WI Guard, take 'em out of snot walker's control.

    3. Radio[redacted]™

      Stand strong, N_[r]_C, we've been with you all these weeks. Thanks for the reporting and the links. BTW, where can wee[redacted] contribute pizza? Ian's?

      1. Natl[redacted]Cmdr

        dear radio[redacted], yes i believe that wee[redacted] can still contribute [redacted] from ian's [redacted] to the state [redacted] of madison [redacted] and further[redacted] also too in [redacted] to the [redacted] association [redacted] of [redacted].

        damn c.i.[redacted]

        1. wee[redacted]

          dear N_[r]_C, called ian's and they say they are tapped out on pizza donations for today but they'll be back at it tomorrow (Thuzday). So tomorrow, I'll call early and order an assortment of [redacted], [redacted], [redacted], and of course my favorite [redacted]. BTW the Ian's Pizza phone number is 608.257.9248 & if you other members of Bloggers local 666 want to make an order.

    1. SayItWithWookies

      As long as you're cool with the fascist getting all offended. And the other fascists getting offended for being associated with him.

  13. wee[redacted]

    ♪♫ I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night,
    alive as you and me.
    Says I "But Joe, you're ten years dead"
    "I never died" said he ♫♪

    Madison you're adding another beautiful verse. Thanks!

  14. undeadgoat

    HEY so since the post that I commented on right after I got back from the capitol seems to have disappeared–it would be great if y'all could continue to order food for the protesters (I've been gone for over an hour and Twitter upsets me fundamentally but I'm pretty sure the doors are still open) I recommend http://www.ianspizza.com/ State Street location has downtown delivery LATE, but since healthy food is awesome maybe you'll want to go through the TAA, or just send your best friend in Madison some money to head to the grocery store.

    1. undeterredbyreality

      Your post is still there, undeadgoat–it's over on the other forum about this topic (on that fancy new sideline).

    2. Extempor[redacted]

      Consider it done, brave comrade!

      And while I'm thinking of it, have any of you guys on the front lines reached out to any other downtown area Communist (e.g. drunk students at bar time) food banks to help take some of the load off of Ian's?

      If they're still around and under the same management, I'd think that Big Mike's, La Bamba, The Parthenon, or BW3 might be simpatico.

  15. Doktor[Redacted]

    Rich fellas come up an' they die, an' their kids ain't no good an' they die out. But we keep a'comin'. We're the people that live. They can't wipe us out; they can't lick us. We'll go on forever, Pa, 'cause we're the people.

      1. Doktor[Redacted]

        Steinbeck does, indeed, rule. But at the risk of being a downer, Steinbeck gave Ma a much less optimistic speech in the novel; this is from the film version, and is half Steinbeck and half Darryl Zanuck. There's a nice comparison here.

        I quote the movie when I don't want to have to think about stillborn babies and decent people dying in barns….

    1. Radio[redacted]™

      There was a day when Rock'n'Roll was political. Those days are gone.
      In fact, one of the great political bands of all time, the Minutemen, were bastardized when one of their anthems, Corona, was commandeered, ironically, by Jackass.
      But D. Boon sang it best:

      The people will survive
      In their environment
      The dirt, scarcity, and the emptiness
      Of our South
      The injustice of our greed
      The practice we inherit
      The dirt, scarcity and the emptiness
      Of our South
      There on the beach
      I could see it in her eyes
      I only had a Corona
      Five cent deposit

    2. horsedreamer_1

      Silver spoons… Born on third-base… Delusions of being Charlie Hustle.

      The Republicans in a nutshell.

  16. □□□□□□□TheClown

    You damn youngsters dun forgotten the good ol' days, when labor was cheap, because it was all kids, and a dude with one eye and a missing finger, or foot or something. Then came the unions and ruined everything with their "floors" and "work days" and "potable water."

    WIN THE FUTURE YOU SISSIES

      1. □□□□□□□TheClown

        And electricity, right? Ask any electrician what wires you can touch and they'll tell ya: A/C will kill ya, but D/C just makes yer dick hard haw haw CMON WORRY WARTS VOTE BACHMANN 2012 and get a free rocket trip to the ALAMO!!!

      2. Radio[redacted]™

        And OSHA, and Child Labor Laws, and Workman's Comp, and 40 hour work weeks , and what I am forgetting?
        These fuckers want to erode the whole shithouse.

  17. Rambone

    It's a trap!

    It's still a fiscal bill and will be ruled unconstitutional as it saves Wisconsin $300 million in retirement and health benefits over two years by shifting the burden to workers (a tax?) and was passed without the 3/5 Senate quorum required when dealing with taxes.

    Of course, in the meantime, as soon as a single WI Dem Senator shows his face in the state Senate, thinking that they have already lost, the Senate will have a quorum and the Repubs will pass the original bill, thereby rendering the constitutionality of the currently passed bill moot.

    1. imiss[redacted]

      Yeah, I've been reading elsewhere the speculation that that is what the Repubs are trying to do here. And I'd like to say they'd be crazy to pull that stunt because the anger it would unleash would make the last three weeks look like a Quaker church service. But you know what? These guys might actually be that dumb and crazy.

      1. horsedreamer_1

        But will the Democrats be stupid enough to take the bait?

        Headline at JSOnline says Senate Dems will return after Assembly action on the bill.

        Please, for the love of God, no. These Dems need to hold strong, find their inner Turtle-boy (Mc Connell) & obstruct, obstruct, obstruct. Geese & gander, y'know…

  18. anonymousofficezombie

    Yer a doomed man, Walker.

    The Anonymous Office Zombie is coming to Madison to eat your rotten brains.

    1. Dashboard_Jesus

      Dead Man Walker (and I mean that in the political sense, not to incite the BeckkkTards)

  19. Steverino247

    "Massive over-reach. The weasels never in Hell would have won in November if they had been open and honest about their intentions. "

    "You fucked up! You trusted us!" Goering or some college guy… Not sure which.

    Actually, these assholes are usually right up front with their agendas, but they cover it with flags and Jesus and the stupid focus on the wrong stuff most of the time.

    The success of any future protests really depends on how the police and firefighters (who are exempt for the moment because the R's need them for protection) react. If they join the strikes and protests, the R's are finished. If they wield clubs and abuse school teachers and social workers, it's over for democracy in this country. Or at least in Wisconsin.

    This might be a good time to Federalize the WI National Guard, Mr. President.

    1. horsedreamer_1

      Fitzgerald pere was a Chicago cop, around the time of the '68 convention, before moving to 'Sconsin to become the Sheriff of Dodge County. So…

      1. Doktor[Redacted]

        "The police are not here to cause disorder, the police are here to preserve disorder."

        1. horsedreamer_1

          That was sampled excellently on Wayne Kramer's "elder statesman of (proto) punk" disc Citizen Wayne. Love it.

          I believe he also was in Madison, same time as Tom Morello & the other young punks.

  20. Guppy06

    OK, I earlier predicted that the Dems would cave 3/11. My date was close, but the cause wasn't predicted.

    Now we need a new betting pool: In the event of a general strike, how many days (hours?) before the National Guard gets called out?

    1. horsedreamer_1

      3/11/04 was the date of the Atocha bombing in Madrid, which Aznar attempted to blame on ETA to help his flagging re-election numbers. Didn't work.

      Let's hope the appeal to shock won't work on the Wisconsin legislative Dems, either.

    2. Negropolis

      Let's be very clear; the Wisconsin Dems didn't cave on anything. That's one meme I don't want to see started.

      As for your question, I give it about four or five days. If you thought the protestors who were holing up in the capitol while they still had jobs were a little anxious and angry, just wait to see their nerves when you're fucking with someone your about to take their job from.

      You can only back into a corner and poke an angry badger for so long before, well…

  21. MilwaukeeKent

    Witness clip 2 above. Bastards don't even have the courtesy to hide it anymore, much less use lube, so cock-sure are they. Nobody expects the Koch-blockers. Protesters are angrier and more determined than ever. As they say, "Screw us and we multiply".

  22. horsedreamer_1

    Also: this moderating action, removing the union-busting from the budget-repair bill, is a brilliant tribute to David Broder.

    I think Joe Klein, Richard Cohen, David Brooks, & Paul Gigot are having a round of Ookie-Cookie to see who can come the fastest.

  23. lulzmonger

    Break a law to pass a bill? Just another day at the orifice for the GOP.

    In politics, timing is essential, & Walker's Cheesehead Junta just pulled the right move at the wrong time. If he was going to pull this kind of sneaky shit he should've done it much, MUCH sooner. Giving your enemy time to organize is a good way to buy some free dental work minus anesthetic … he learned nothing from the launch of the recall movement, & now he's it's strongest supporter by default.

    Shit – it just got real.

  24. pinkocommi

    On the positive side, Republitards' arrogance and overreaching are the gifts that keep on giving. On the negative side, the Dems will take any political advantage they can get out of this mess and just piss it away just like they always do.

  25. LionelHutzEsq

    Well, at least we now know that it was all about balancing the budget, and not busting the unions…, wait, what?

  26. fartknocker

    I love Wisconsin. The legislature pressed Governor asshat to detonate the executive authority bomb. Unfortunately for that ass wipe, the mutual exclusive destruction clause included labor, home owners, teachers, veterans, firefighters, wastewater treatement folks, police officers and finally, the friendly guys who pick up my trash.

    He is so totally fucked. Read this little ditty from Forbes: http://blogs.forbes.com/rickungar/2011/03/04/gov-

    You sir, Governor of the Great State of Wisconsin, will be royally (if that is a word) ass fucked by the majority.

    And I will pray that this little event causes every person who has ever waffled, become confused or is threatened do this: pull the Democratic ticket when you vote, send a dollar to a liberal and watch the show. It’s going to be more fun than anything that Jerry Springer ever envisioned.

    In the mean while time, fuck you Glenn Beck, Rick Perry and Rick Santorum.
    Greetings and goodnight from South Austin, Texas.

    PS: I just e-mailed $200 to the Wisconsin Democrats. How does my cock feel in your ass you little Glenn Beck Goldbond piss hole? It’s tight, I know.
    Let the fucking games begin.

    1. Respitetini

      What do the Democrats have to do with any of this? The national party has been absolutely silent on this issue.

  27. fartknocker

    PPS: SXSW is about to start in Austin. Come on down. I would love all you Wonkettes to see my town. For you downfisters, we have a Sesame Street show on the Gudalupe bridge.

  28. chimpinatophat

    I'm a moron about law, but by invalidating the original Wisconsin law granting public sector unions collective bargaining rights (it's Section 111.70 of the State Statutes), haven't the Republicans also just given public sector unions their right to strike back? Because that was the exchange back in the 1960s – collective bargaining rights = no strikes.

    …. I guess on the bright side we may shake off that whole "mindnumbingly sedate" reputation we got back when we had reasonably good leadership!

  29. Badonkadonkette

    Am I the only one who noticed that us libruls have found about a million ways to describe the nefarious machinations employed by the Wisconsin GOP without resorting to chanting "ram it down our throats"? I mean, I'm not saying that people who repeatedly scream "ram it down my throat" (Breitbart) are unconsciously expressing a certain inclination but…well.

      1. Negropolis

        I tell you this: The opening of Pandora's box doesn't have shit on what's about to be unleashed in Wisconsin and across the nation. Wisconsin Republicans will be lucky if they make it out of Madison with their political legacies intact they are about to be ousted so fast.

        They'll be gone quicker than you can say Wauwatosa and Menomonee.

  30. MilwaukeeKent

    If the protesters keep their cool, the poll numbers of independents siding with the Democrats on this issue will get close to aligning. They've lost them already, I think that fact has even entered the right-wing bubble somehow, and now the weasels are going for broke.

    Even though I just ate a turd, in a strange way I'm enjoying the view. If you're going to bet money on a class war, the tout-line is don't bet on the money.

    This country isn't a pack of wolves, as the right likes to envision its Randian self, nor a flock of sheep as they think the rest of us are. We're a damned herd of cats; not everyone is as stupid as they are.

    1. Weenus299

      Yes! If we have the propensity to govern ourselves, it makes no sense to propegate every-man-for-himself ideals. We should save those notions for when there is no government.

      As it is, we have what we have, and we ought to fully vest it.

      Enjoy this sweet turd. Know that the wingers just shit in their messkits.

  31. di_da_is_alpha

    /// "We must confess, that overstock the world as you will with comforts and with luxuries, we do not see how to make capital relax its monopoly-how to do aught but tantalize the hireling. Capital, irresponsible capital, begets, and ever will beget, the immedicabile vulnus of so-called Free Society. It invades every recess of domestic life, infects its food, its clothing, its drink, its very atmosphere, and pursues the hireling, from the hovel to the poor-house, the prison and the grave. Do what he will, go where he will, capital pursues and persecutes him." ///
    George Fitzhugh

    /// "Free-labor capitalism, said Fitzhugh, was a competition in which the strong exploited and starved the weak. Slavery, by contrast, was a paternal institution that guaranteed protection of the workers. "Capital exercises a more perfect compulsion over free laborers than human masters over slaves," wrote Fitzhugh, "for free laborers must at all times work or starve, and slaves are supported whether they work or not… What a glorious thing is slavery, when want, misfortune, old age, debility, and sickness overtake [the slave]." "(427) ///
    Liberty, Equality, Power: A History of the American People, Fifth Ed by John Murrin et al.

    Replace "slave" with "worker" and you have the progressive platform, a cradle to grave nanny state, complete with unions, welfare and the much desired government health care.

    1. Dashboard_Jesus

      fucking dick_da_alpha moron sez WTF? take your mentally retarded delusional bullshit elsewhere, asshole…what a glorious thing is extreme ignorance and fucktardness, unfortunately you have a mental illness that not even universal health care can cure moron…also, too

        1. Dashboard_Jesus

          no but I'm sure the Repugnant dick up your ass must hurt enough to short-circuit your little brain…morons like you wouldn't know the 'truth' if it slapped you upside your thick skull with a 2×4…srsly, what's it like to have an IQ of less than 50? it's hard to imagine being so hopelessly stoopid

          1. di_da_is_alpha

            The truth must hurt you real bad, Haysus. You're squealin' like a stuck pig.

            'Night, yall. : )

      1. imiss[redacted]

        Probably sounded better in his head before he wrote it out. You know these trolls, just cold poppin' up over here to spray mental santorum all over the wonkette.

    2. mumbly_joe

      Shorter dada:

      Not using force of law on behalf of the ownership class to prohibit laborers from acting as actual economic agents, rather than property, would be the real slavery. The road to serfdom is paved by workers who are allowed to negotiate the conditions of their employment, just like they could in feudalism, doncha know.

      Using your power as the government to unilaterally rewrite employment contracts is just small government conservatism, after all. Unless we're talking about million-dollar bonuses for investment bankers who caused an economic meltdown, that is.

      1. mumbly_joe

        Shorter shorter da-da-is-m:

        Slavery is Freedom, Hate is Love, Ignorance is Strength (so fuck da teachers!)

      2. di_da_is_alpha

        Dada? What does Duchamp have to do with this? You must have had too much to drink from his fountain.

        Government is a tool, and the good guys are using that tool to start cutting out a cancerous growth that is the progressive wing of the democrat party. And you know as well as I do that the democrats are in bed with Wall Street ever bit as much as the big government RINOs.

        One more thing, it's education that will keep us from going back to the Gilded Age, just one more reason to get rid of teachers unions. The schools didn't start going downhill till the unions put their greasy mitts in the pie. If our schools were number one in the world, like they should be, the unions couldn't squeal for more and more money. Giving kids a proper education is a conflict of interest for the unions.

    3. Zombie_Reagan

      "Replace "slave" with "worker" and you have the progressive platform, a cradle to grave nanny state, complete with unions, welfare and the much desired government health care."

      Oh, for fuck's sake.

      Post something that isn't a total hyperbole for once.

  32. DerrickWildcat

    I didn't read any of this stuff or watched any of the movies, but Madison Wisconsin is a good town. It's like the Paris of Wisconsin. Oh, and Milwaukee is like the Rome of Wisconsin and New Holstein is the Riga of Wisconsin

    1. MilwaukeeKent

      Indeed, right now Madison is like Paris in '68. Except it's 40/60 students to workers, flipping the Paris stats of 60/40. To translate for people in the Tri-state area, Madison is the Lower East Side, Milwaukee is very much Brooklyn, the rest of the state is like all that blank territory north of Albany.

      1. wee[redacted]

        Well Hurley, up by the UP, being the retirement home for the mob is a little different brings a bit of Sicily to Snowmobilia (Mulberry Street for New Yorkers, Melrose for Chicago folks).

        1. MilwaukeeKent

          Well that and Eagle River and Caulderon or wherever the hell Capone’s Hideout is. Despite Hurley’s rep for prostitution when my mother grew up there in Ironwood, Michigan’s sister city across the border, the word of advice for young women was to stay out of nearby Bessemer. Too much inside baseball?

          1. wee[redacted]

            My sister had a place up in Bessemer back in the 70s. Stayed there the summer after I got out of the Army. Painted ski chalets at Iron Mountain. Met a lot of Italians & Finlanders who were working at the iron mines. In the evening we'd drag out the wooden gheetars 'n play them socialist hymns. And maybe Flying into Los Angeleeze once or twice. Get Schlitzfaced. Good times, good times.

  33. SayItWithWookies

    Since 2004 I can't understand why anyone who isn't a rich bastard would vote Republican. I still don't get it — it's not like they're busy creating jobs or anything — they're just attempting to solve the problems created by their massive greed by exercising more of their massive greed. Really, when you take your car to the mechanic and he sells it to a chop shop and buys coke with the money, why the hell do you take your next car back to him?

    1. Dashboard_Jesus

      really, it took you to 2004 to have that insight? I'd have guessed you to have that revelation much sooner (and I'm a BIG fan of the Wookies!)

      1. SayItWithWookies

        I wouldn't've done it, but I could at least see, before Iraq II, why at least some people might. After that it was completely inexplicable though.

        1. Weenus299

          You are spot on. Up until that whole Iraq lie, I did credit republicans with at least some sense that they cared about mainstream America, they just disagreed with mine.

          About midway into Son-of-A-George's presidency it became abundantly clear that republicans still just use good people's sensibilities to peel votes from democrats.

          They're really no better than they were in the 1920s and 1930s. Perhaps more scaly replicants of bankers, but that's about it.

    2. gef05

      Those graphs Wonkette linked to a few weeks ago – showing both growth and consolidation of wealth for the very wealthy over the past decade – probably explains it all.

    3. zhubajie

      Ever since the '80s, the Rep(tiles) have been acting the way 3rd world oligarchs usually act, and with the usual results. A few get rich, most get poor, infrastructure and education turn to shit. Next thing, the classic diseases (polio, malaria, diphtheria, cholera, etc.) will come back because the oligarchs don't want to spend money on public health. They falsely think only other, wicked people, will get sick.

    4. GunToting[Redacted]

      But when I get enough munnies to buy my plumbing business and start making real $$, the tax cuts will benefit me then!

    5. GortRay

      It's simple. There is an unimaginably huge number of utter morons in this land of ours. Their conception of the world is like that of a common beast and they can be easily swayed.

  34. Negropolis

    I hear the Wisconsin 14 are on their way back to the state. I sure as hell hope they'll play a game of "catch me if you can" instead of walking back into the chambers. If Scott wants them to vote, he can try send out his flying monkeys to go apprehend them and show the world that he's willing to lead them into the chamber in handcuffs. Compel them, you bastard.

    Duh, winning!

    Scott's about as lucid as Charlie Sheen.

    1. mumbly_joe

      Fuck that noise. They still need a quorum to actually pass the budget, right? If I were one of the WI 14, I'd stay out of state at this point- if this is how the Wisconsin GOP wants to play, let's shut this mother down.

  35. Negropolis

    Guys, stop feeding the trolls. If there was ever a time and place to do it, it is on this issue. We simply don't have the time.

  36. proudgrampa

    "Don't ya know, talkin' 'bout a Revolution…"

    This will NOT stand.

    Where do I send my contribution for the recall campaign?

  37. freakishlywrong

    Always watch what Republicans accuse Democrats of. They obstructed HCR for two years and then accused the majority of "ramming a bill down the American people's™ throats." Voila'. Assholes.

  38. HurricaneAli

    Snark off::

    Woke up early in the morning and saw Ken's posts on WI and read through most of the comments up till then. Fell back asleep and had anxious dreams about protests. This is some serious shit and if I wasn't worried about our country before I certainly have worked up some worry, now. Thanks to Ken and all the Wonketteers for keeping up on this important issue which the national media will do all they can to ignore.

  39. doxastic

    After watching the first video, I've got to thank Scott Walker for one thing: Reminding folks that solidarity is AWESOME.

  40. freakishlywrong

    And where the fuck is Obama? SRSLY. Grow a pair, be partisan and support the working class. Or get out of the way.

  41. 4TheTurnstiles

    "violence exists whenever some own luxury homes while next to them the greater part of the population lives in insanitary conditions and others do not even have a place to live; there is violence wherever food is thrown away by some, while others do not have enough to eat"

    –the Program of Unidad Popular, legitimate democratic government of Chile, prior to the 11 Sept. 1973 CIA brownshirt coup that brought Pinochet & capitalism to power

  42. ManchuCandidate

    Grew up in a management home so my dad was anti-union, but I also work for a living. Watched douchebags execubots support weasel fucks like Walker. Watched those same douchenozzles fuck over a lot of good people in the name of profit. Watched them put my employer right into the ground. Lost a 1/3 of my pension thanks to them–good thing I expect to work till I'm dead or I'd be fucked. I realized that maybe union guys don't deserve everything they get, but damn the employers (and fucks like Walker) deserve it less.

    Fight the power teachers.

    1. Rush_Oxycontin

      I don't see how this is constitutional. He didn't go after ALL unions, only selective unions who didn't support him in the last election. To me that is overt discrimination.

      Time to start the recall Wisonsin!

    2. XOhioan

      Daughter of a Scab, here. My dad was a low-level factory foreman, so he would have lost his job if he didn't cross the picket line. You'd think he would have been anti-union, based on the some of the stuff he had to go through, but he knew that the management wasn't a lot better. 20 years after that strike, the factory owners sold to a big international conglomerate that off-shored most of the operation. They also left a gaping, toxic brownfield in a corner of my home town, which they refused to even try to clean up. Ah, corporations–fuck them.

    3. Fox n Fiends

      My dad was the head of the local teachers union for a few years,in a very conservative state. ugly, nasty job. Unions have plenty of flaws, but they are the last bulwark against the Kleptocracy.

  43. deanbooth

    You do realize that Fitzhugh was writing in the 1850s in favor of (actual) slavery don't you? He gives a surprisingly stirring Marxist argument against capitalism, but he laughably concludes that slavery is our only other option. He actually says that in a slave economy, "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs."

    What he doesn't address is who gets to be the master. And you appear to think that the Kochs deserve to be the masters, maybe because their money makes them superior, is evidence of their "social fitness"?

    So… fuck you.

    1. imiss[redacted]

      LIsten, you're talking to a troll who periodically comes over here to vociferously claim that intelligent design and creationism are two separate things and ID has scientific validity. Anyone who is that fucking stupid isn't going to have the brain power to tie his own shoes, much less realize what a ridiculous analogy he's making.

  44. PublicLuxury

    I hate those motherfuckers.

    Please no VIOLENCE! It is what they're waiting for. It will allow Walker to grab the Union Thug meme

    1. El Pinche

      How about the proverbial ass kick out of the governors mansion when he's impeached? ….yeah, i know I wish.

  45. Weenus299

    This is just the beginning. I know the republicans in the senate comfort themselves with a move that they swear is constitutional and procedurally appropriate.

    But if I were a Wisconsinite who goes to work every day, I would be somewhat pissed that they hoodwinked everyone and passed the damn bill anyway. There was a degree of unethical maneuvering, not illegal, not unconstitutional, but certainly insulting.

    I can't see this as playing well with the people. In fact, the move sucks ass. I'm glad I don't have any of these problems in South Cackilacky, where we are all fucking poor and stupid, and that's the way we like it.

  46. Beowoof

    Being old I remember the 60''s and some of the fights, I plan to support the folks in Wisconsin anyway I can from upstate New York. The crap is starting here too, and the fight must be taken up. Remember though some of the most effective fights have been waged won with non-violence. Martin Luther King and Ghandi should be our inspiration.

  47. Nopantsmcgee

    So , really. Where does one send $$ for the recall efforts? As I understand Walker hasn't been in office long enough to qualify for a recall, but 8 senate Republicans are. Where do I send my shiny buffalo nickles?

  48. ttommyunger

    It's a shame we don't have a National Party to counter these Republican Kochsuckers…..Crickets…….that's all I hear from D.C……..Crickets.

  49. DustBowlBlues

    The goal? I kinda' think it's fulfilling Karl Rove's life dream of a permanent Republican majority and rendering the Democrats nothing more than the Liberal Democrats of the UK; dear to the hearts of Gladstone devotees such as I, but largely a group of well-educated pinheads in fair-trade created natural fibers along with being a quaint remembrance of better times.

    If all goes according to plan, five Xmases from now, Christmas cards (the name will be clearly spelled out–not holiday cards) will feature sepia-toned Currier and Ives style photographs of Martin Luther King and John Kennedy and Tip O'Neill making speeches in front of snow-dusted DeeCee landmarks. The new shabby chic (made in garment factories that have been certified as 12 and under employees only) will feature Timothy McVeigh in close up, the way leflties wear Che shirts. But without the beret.

    Vo-tech schools that teach domestic labor skills will be thriving as they supply the servants demanded in the one growth industry, domestic help. They will finance their education through loans that indenture them to one family for life, but somehow never get paid off.

    Young good looking men, gay and straight, will invest is gym fees and workout like crazy because of the growing demand for private mansion pool boys.

    I just wish they would approve those opium den retirement communities so I could go ahead and be done with it. I'm an oldster and I don't want to live in this shit.

  50. The Onanator

    Nah. Plato, Socrates, Cicero, the Constitution, etc. in my Political Science classes. I don't recall reading Rand although I might have. How 'bout you? Dick and Jane?

    1. KenLayIsAlive

      You haven't read the constitution too hard if you don't get what "Freedom of Association" means, asshole. You probably missed the part about paying your fucking taxes too.

  51. dudeokay

    Liberal indifference to labor blows my mind. It's not like in 2008 unions delivered Obama the entire rust belt, or anything … oh, wait.

  52. Lost_Teabaggers

    I don't have time to do this…I have a final this morning, but those motherfucking classist, fascist demented Koch sucking Republicans have gone too far. They might be smug now, but it's over for them; you don't fuck with democracy under some bullshit budget banner and not lose for it; thanks for once in your lives being honest, wingnuts. I'm lucky, my state is fairly stable politically as we pushed back Teabaggers and kept them from a majority and stopped the Dudd from ruining our state. But if they think they can just ram this shit through and weaken working people so their fat, white, inbred trust fund baby clientelle can do as they please worry free because the German Eagle Party has got their back, they've got another thing coming. Enjoy it now, fuckheads, your majority is done with. Sorry to Wisconsin and every other state enduring these third world country schister politician-German conservatism inspired assholes we call Republicans, but now is the time to push back and stop these bastards.

  53. Lost_Teabaggers

    Seriously, Naomi Klein's book "the Shock Doctine" tells you everything you need to know about what these greedy pigfuckers are doing. Teachers making 50k is TOO MUCH? Fuck…I thought 250k wasn't rich you lying, bigoted elitist Kochmonkeys. Alright…enough, time for me to go but before I do…Scott Walker, go eat shit and die you coifed little fundie closet homo and the rest of the wingnut governors trying to privatize this country as a solution to a problem THEY created, go fuck yourselves too.

  54. PhilippePetain

    I love that "people who work" are all supposed to know this stupid douchebag's shitty generator company.

    1. DashboardBuddha

      Exactly. Shit…I'm at work too, but I'm not so self-absorbed that I expect people to know my agency.

      (I still think it's a dildo company though)

  55. GortRay

    One more little step in USAAmerica's evolution into a fascist plutocracy. Just add a little theocracy for spice! Yum.

  56. typingperson

    General strike.

    Have the Dems gone back? I bet it's a trap to try and force their hand. No way is the law constitutional.

    So Walker and the Repubs won't negotiate on union-busting or on defunding public education and expanding vouchers for private school or on selling off state power plants with no bids–all in the budget bill. And all ways to enrich the private sector at the expense of the public good.

  57. Fox n Fiends

    Someday when we tell our children about a "middle class" they'll look at us like we are insane. Then they'll get back to working 96 hours a week by age 10.

  58. Doktor[redacted]

    I'd always assumed most teabaggers were against breech-loading, but if you go that way, that's nobody's business but your own. Just remember to keep your wadding safely wrapped.

  59. Doktor[redacted]

    I'm pretty sure he doesn't own the company; Onan generators have been around for quite a while. Credit to the company founders: They use one-cylinder engines.

    I know this because I'm an aviation nerd, by the way–Dick Rutan's tiny single-seat plane, the Quickie, was powered by an Onan engine. And yes, it had a canard.

    1. DashboardBuddha

      So…let me see if I understand this. A quickie is powered by an engine called Onan…is that a 4-stroke or a 2-stroke?—

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