• May 26, 2012

Weird Things the NYT Called the President of China

by Ken Layne  

So is it okay to call the president of China a “mandarin,” the way the New York Times does in this article about his apparent successor? Because the reporters/editors clearly mean the Westernized use of mandarin, meaning a bureaucrat, even though they are talking about an actual Chinese government leader who, in fact, speaks the Chinese dialect we (in the West) call “Mandarin.” God, is everything going to be like this until the Chinese take away our press freedoms and unfettered Google so we can have some mental peace?

This is from this NYT story that just made us sort of say, “Uhh,” to ourselves, before quietly walking away:

He is less of a dour mandarin than Mr. Hu is. The tall, stocky Mr. Xi is a so-called princeling — a descendant of a member of the revolutionary party elite — and his second marriage is to a celebrity folk singer and army major general, Peng Liyuan.

Unlike the robotic Mr. Hu, Mr. Xi has dropped memorable barbs against the West into a couple of recent speeches: he once warned critics of China’s rise to “stop pointing fingers at us.” But he has enrolled his daughter in Harvard, under a pseudonym.

Sure, call Hu Jintao a “mandarin” in that arcane way, and then just go ahead and let loose and accuse him of being a robot. [NYT]

Hu knew?

{ 50 comments }

Come here a minute January 24, 2011 at 10:27 am

Are you sure it wasn't a John Boehner reference?

RedneckMuslin January 24, 2011 at 10:48 am

As in Mandarin Orange.. Right.

user-of-owls January 24, 2011 at 10:33 am

I'm less struck by the use of 'mandarin' and more by word pairings that one does not normally see, like "tall" and "stocky."

Or "celebrity folk singer" and "army major general."

Ken Layne January 24, 2011 at 10:35 am

The whole article is full of weird. It's like the NYT clumsily translated it from … Mandarin?

Zvi_Bleindmeis January 24, 2011 at 10:36 am

She-is-the-very-model-of-a-folksy-major-general.

horsedreamer_1 January 24, 2011 at 10:41 am

I was thinking of Woody Guthrie's fascist-killing six-string-machine.

CalamityJames January 24, 2011 at 11:11 am

Can I get an Intense Debate technician to show me how to give a blow-fist?

BaldarTFlagass January 24, 2011 at 10:47 am

I hear she does a mean cover of Dylan's "Masters of War."

x111e7thst January 24, 2011 at 10:34 am

Sometimes, when I can't sleep, I try to picture the Chinese equivalent to J Boehner. Or Rand Paul.

SorosBot January 24, 2011 at 10:35 am

Here I thought they were comparing Hu to The Mandarin; you know, the supervillain who used to be Iron Man's archenemy but has been largely ignored in recent decades and in the movies because the character was a racist Chinese stereotype.

DoktorZoom January 24, 2011 at 10:08 pm

NERD!!!! (Says the guy whose pseudonym is derived from Professor Zoom, the archvillian who killed the original Flash…)

Barbara_i January 24, 2011 at 10:36 am

At the potluck dinner, do not sample the cream of sum yung guy soup that Lindsey Graham brought!

horsedreamer_1 January 24, 2011 at 10:42 am

It replaces the gravy in ham biscuits n' gravy.

Lindsay loves fusion cuisine.

ManchuCandidate January 24, 2011 at 10:38 am

Folk Singer AND a Major General? How, er, modern.
What does she command? The 2nd Musicians Division?

Lascauxcaveman January 24, 2011 at 11:35 am

AKA "The Singing 2nd." They kill.

freakishlywrong January 24, 2011 at 10:39 am

Jesus. Why didn't they just call him a stoic chink? Or say that his fave food is chicken flied lice…bizarre article.

ManchuCandidate January 24, 2011 at 11:18 am

At least they avoided the Rush like "Ching Chong Ding Dong" bullshit that comes from White US Americans of a certain age (ie: olds.)

WriteyWriterton January 24, 2011 at 2:29 pm

Don't be hatin' on Olds. We have our standards, which, btw, are on sale only on QVC and not available in record stores. Then again, nothing's available in record stores anymore. They don't exist, amirite?

Lascauxcaveman January 24, 2011 at 11:39 am

These days, you don't have a Chinaman's chance of writing an article like this with tripping over some obvious, offensive stereotype.

WriteyWriterton January 24, 2011 at 2:30 pm

You'd think all of these ethic references would have set off a Chinese fire drill among NYT editors.

horsedreamer_1 January 24, 2011 at 10:43 am

Of course the Red Chinese would enroll at Harvard.

Crimson, anyone?

WriteyWriterton January 24, 2011 at 2:30 pm

…and clover?

Mumbletypeg January 24, 2011 at 10:45 am

"The coldest winter in almost fourteen years
could never, never change your mind…"

I practically cannot read about the various interpretations of "Mandarin" without substituting "Mandolin;" familiarity w/ that other Asian-powerhouse leader is sadly imprinted upon my pop culture-addled psyche.

DemmeFatale January 24, 2011 at 1:39 pm

Ah, old school Rod.
Not "Disco Rod." (Blech!)

HolyMaracas January 24, 2011 at 10:54 am

Dubya looked so good on his baby blue pj's.

horsedreamer_1 January 24, 2011 at 10:57 am

They look like Marshall Applewhite is about to emasculate them.

Are they wearing Nikes?

jim89048 January 24, 2011 at 1:50 pm

That comet has sailed.

Beanball January 24, 2011 at 11:02 am

"The Oriental mind is unfathomable," said Tom deeply.

Lascauxcaveman January 24, 2011 at 11:41 am

"There's a chink in the armor," Tom said guardedly.

Beanball January 24, 2011 at 11:50 am

"Opium is the politics of the masses," Tom puffed.

Tommmcatt January 24, 2011 at 1:16 pm

"Their sweet-and-sour chicken just doesn't cut it!" dished Tom, saucily.

Beanball January 24, 2011 at 1:36 pm

"Waiter! There's a fly in my egg-drop soup," Tom cackled.

HateMachine January 24, 2011 at 11:12 am

Tune in next week for NYT's article about Romani tribal leaders getting gypped during negotiations with the EU or whoever.

JustPixelz January 24, 2011 at 11:37 am

Now I'm confuzed. Hu's on First. Xi is on Second? What happened to What?

RedneckMuslin January 24, 2011 at 12:07 pm

He was Reagan's Interior Secretary. I think he's dead now.

HistoriCat January 24, 2011 at 11:42 am

The NYT is just following the lead of the WaPO – you don't have to even try any more. Just coast on your reputation for a few decades.

nounverb911 January 24, 2011 at 11:52 am

And all along I thought Hu was just the CEO of Wal-Mart.

MinAgain January 24, 2011 at 12:17 pm

It would amuse me greatly if his daughter's pseudonym was Xi Na, Warrior Princess.

chascates January 24, 2011 at 12:47 pm

It least this meeting wasn't the lovefest that Bush showed to the Saudi king:
<a href="http://bp2.blogger.com/_fuDoo0QnpeQ/Rgvr8sv7wcI/AAAAAAAAABU/XrRy8m0moTw/s320/bush-abdullah+hands.jpg">Friends
<a href="http://www.evethenovel.com/mypix//weddings/BushKissingSaudiPrince.jpg">Close friends

PublicLuxury January 24, 2011 at 1:54 pm

Sarah Palin is dating that Chinese guy? WOW!! No wonder the Todd has to get serviced by a hooker.

MiniMencken January 24, 2011 at 6:11 pm

Hu? Hu wrote the Book of Love!

Negropolis January 25, 2011 at 1:25 am

They were unsure of the word to use, and had also kept as options "Chinaman" and "Oriental".

Really, WTF is this, the 1910's?

ShaveTheWhales January 25, 2011 at 8:23 pm

I do want to thank Ken for exposing this Mandarin canard.

MsQuasimodo January 27, 2011 at 11:13 pm

*golf clap* to the lot o' you!

WriteyWriterton January 24, 2011 at 2:32 pm

"With six, you get egg roll!" Tom added helpfully.

Beanball January 24, 2011 at 3:18 pm

"Garçon! The bill," Tom checked.

WriteyWriterton January 24, 2011 at 3:27 pm

"Commoners who enter the Emperor's Palace may be put to death," Tom said, forbiddingly.

(At least it's not French-ish.)

Beanball January 24, 2011 at 3:32 pm

"Puns don't need footnotes," Tom said inexplicably.

WriteyWriterton January 24, 2011 at 3:39 pm

"I'm suing for peace," Tom said, uh, hydroponically?

Beanball January 24, 2011 at 3:46 pm

"Hydroponically"???

As in, uh, puns as a form of Chinese water torture?

OK, I give. Plus I seriously have to go to work now.

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