VISIONS OF AMERICA  3:02 pm January 19, 2011

‘New American Home’ Is Vulgar Monument To America’s Tacky Dreams

by Ken Layne

9,000 square feet ready to fill with the bodies of America's jobless.Nothing else legal is as evil as the American Housebuilding Industry. Pretty much everything wrong with this country — from the oil wars it fights abroad to the morally crippled exurban old people at Tea Party rallies to their unwanted adult children living in squalid fourth-ring apartment complexes on a diet of SSI and methamphetamine — can be blamed on the boom-bust construction-financing cycle of destructive, mindless residential tract cancer growths across this once-pretty nation. But even after the massive global disaster caused by the American construction/mortgage Ponzi scheme, there’s still a residential construction industry! And it is having a festival or convention or whatever, in Florida (obvs), and it is here that these awful people anointed the 8,400-square-feet single-family mausoleum you see here as the “New American Home of 2011.”

Some gross website in Houston reports:

This year’s New American Home is 8,400- square-foot concrete structure in Orlando, Fla. During a tour of the four-bedroom house last week, we searched for new ideas that would be useful for Culturemap readers in Texas. The home’s design can best be labeled “modern classical,” says the home’s interior designer Kate Clarke of Continental Interiors of Winter Park, Fla.

What’s modern classical? “It’s a transitional look between contemporary and traditional.”

[...]

The New American Home highlights an interesting design idea for luxury builders — the master bedroom hub. The central hub room is a private, windowless octagon-shaped room with comfortable seating, a fireplace and a television. Spinning off from the hub are the three “spokes” of the master suite — a gigantic walk-in closet; a large bathroom with dual showers, spa tub and a urinal; and the bedroom.

Ha, yes, this sounds very interesting. Finally, a windowless room with a television … and a urinal. If there’s a slot for the pizza delivery guy to just slide the box right there to the urinal/teevee, you’re set!

Except you’re not, of course, because this is a foul fantasy from a dead era. Some 8,400-square-foot Florida McMansion box holds little appeal for the Modern Decamillionaire Executive — try something in the 75,000-square-foot category, that’s mostly underground and built of bunker-thick concrete, because there are going to be millions of people rioting through the cities and suburbs in the coming years. [Marketwatch]

 

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BaldarTFlagass January 19, 2011 at 3:06 pm

"private, windowless octagon-shaped room"

Every modern home should have a Panic Room!

not that Dewey January 19, 2011 at 3:15 pm

and/or Panopticon.

EdFlintstone January 19, 2011 at 3:16 pm

The octagon room—c'mon honey let's get it on!!!!!!

sarjo January 19, 2011 at 3:30 pm

Only if you promise it won't turn me into OCTOmom!

Redhead January 19, 2011 at 4:49 pm

oh yeah? Well this entire 28,000 square foot home <a href="http://(http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20100918/ARTICLES/100919613)” target=”_blank”>(http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20100918/ARTICLES/100919613) qualifies as "fortified." Why have a panic ROOM when you can have a panic HOUSE?

chascates January 20, 2011 at 12:13 am

Grand-looking house (..the Otis Elevator delivery said "it was the longest residential piston he's ever seen.") but it's still in South Carolina!!!!

bitchincamaro2 January 19, 2011 at 5:24 pm

I prefer to think of it as a masturbatorium with "spokes".

UW8316154 January 19, 2011 at 11:25 pm

Oh, you beat me to it, Bitchin! My thought exactly. Which makes the other 8,000 square feet pretty unnecessary, in my mind.

ManchuCandidate January 19, 2011 at 3:09 pm

I figured it would have been a 4' X 4' X 8' laminated box with no window and one opening.

Real estate dipshits.

Come here a minute January 19, 2011 at 3:09 pm

That urinal is a big mistake — American streams are too weak to eliminate all of our Super Big Gulp 'leftovers' before we get to wondering what we're missing on the teevee, and our legs get tired. Better to use that space for a big screen across the room from the his and her commodes. We'll never want to get up! (Or be able to.)

V572625694 January 19, 2011 at 4:01 pm

Pretty sure it was a bidet, but the writer didn't know the difference. Hope he/she didn't piss in it.

twoeightnine January 19, 2011 at 4:08 pm

You don't piss in the bidet? Look at Mr. Moneybacks-HighSociety.

Crank_Tango January 19, 2011 at 5:03 pm

my dream bathroom features a urinal AND a bidet.

bitchincamaro2 January 19, 2011 at 5:26 pm

That's the Muslin Foot Washer.

V572625694 January 19, 2011 at 8:53 pm

The bidet is the Cunnilinguist's Friend. Makes it all nice and sweet.________________________________________

Rotundo_ January 19, 2011 at 5:41 pm

Lazyboy Recline-O-Lets for everyone!!!1!!11!!!! USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!

V572625694 January 19, 2011 at 5:47 pm

Must have cupholders though, and a built-in fridge. You don't want to be getting up every five minutes to get another PBR.

Bonzos_Bed_Time January 19, 2011 at 3:10 pm

Shame that Bristol just bought a home.

SorosBot January 19, 2011 at 3:10 pm

The concrete office buildings made in the 60s and 70s are ugly monstrosities enough; an actual house made of concrete sounds hideous (and looks it, based on the photo).

Oblios_Cap January 19, 2011 at 3:22 pm

Not to mention the concrete monstrosities in the workers' paradises of the old Soviet Union. No wonder they tore down that wall.

sussemilch January 19, 2011 at 3:11 pm

That might be a house, but not even Ted Williams' frozen head could call that cold box a home. What a terrible place it would be to raise children. Then again, if you had kids how the hell would you be able to afford an 8400 sq ft house?

jus_wonderin January 19, 2011 at 3:16 pm

If one had a 8400 sq ft home, how would one know they had children?????

SorosBot January 19, 2011 at 3:27 pm

No matter how many rooms, the brats would still manage to leave toys all over the floors of every one.

jus_wonderin January 19, 2011 at 3:42 pm

"Kids!! I got you this incredibly sterile concrete home and you WANT TOYS?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?"

V572625694 January 19, 2011 at 4:02 pm

They already froze Ted Williams' head? I thought Rachel gave him a job on MSNBC.

WhatTheHeck January 19, 2011 at 3:12 pm

Ken. you got a problem with capitalism, or sompin’?
Its our god-given right to exploit one another.

SexySmurf January 19, 2011 at 3:13 pm

The central hub room is a private, windowless octagon-shaped room

Sounds like the perfect place to have hobos Ultimate Fight for bottles of Night Train.

sati_demise January 19, 2011 at 8:14 pm

Or the perfect place for the drug cartel to hide the kidnapped victims until the ransom arrives.
Sweet! And secure.

Oblios_Cap January 19, 2011 at 3:13 pm

I read 9,700 sq ft, but either way, it's too much. I have enough trouble keeping less than 2,000 sq ft in any kind of order.

It's obvious that every american family will need one of these. I'm sure reasonable payments plans are available from a variety of lenders.

Think of the Domestic Workers market that will open up! And just in time for indentured servitude to make a comeback.

EdFlintstone January 19, 2011 at 3:14 pm

So I should be able to flip this in a few months and make a quick and easy million, right? What could go wrong?

slithytoves January 19, 2011 at 3:16 pm

I'm a renter and from the looks of my non-existent savings account, I always will be, so suck it New American Home.

Preferred Customer January 19, 2011 at 3:28 pm

Fortunately for you, there is an apartment in the carriage house above the garage, designed to provide "income for the property." So you can do your part to directly support* someone else's dream of home ownership!

*You are already indirectly doing this through tax deductions.

SorosBot January 19, 2011 at 3:43 pm

The place has a special suite designed specifically for kids who move back in with their parents, so if yours have money maybe you can encourage them to get it.

dr_giraud January 19, 2011 at 3:17 pm

Nice spot for a future Museum of the Death of America, though.

jus_wonderin January 19, 2011 at 3:37 pm

It reminds me of the home of The Abominable Dr. Phibes. Hahahahahahahaha! Door Slams!

SorosBot January 19, 2011 at 3:18 pm

The thing, the energy efficiency and water recycling systems described would be very useful, but the designer could have come up with a house that wasn't so fucking ugly.

Also, if the prediction of global warming and overpopulation leading to a clean water crisis comes true, that water recycling might not be enough; we may all have to start wearing stillsuits.

BaldarTFlagass January 19, 2011 at 3:28 pm

That's fine, but I ain't getting near one of them fucking sandworms.

WhatTheHolyHeck January 19, 2011 at 3:53 pm

I hear this place has a really advanced Spice rack.

KochFembot January 19, 2011 at 3:18 pm

Pretty soon the Hoverounds will have a built-in poop bucket, so there will be no need for toilets (or urinals) in the New America.

MissTaken January 19, 2011 at 4:04 pm

Sweet! Freedom from those damn librul toilets while I hover around in my hoverround! America!

mereoblivion January 19, 2011 at 4:36 pm

When I told my boat-builder not to forget the built-in poop deck, he gave me a surprisingly stern look and snarled "Abaft, ye swab!"

OneDollarJuana January 19, 2011 at 4:38 pm

The Hoverounders don't need poop buckets. They're as big as cows right now, and cows just poop wherever they are, fertilizing as they go. The circle of life.

BerkeleyBear January 19, 2011 at 3:18 pm

Second the stupidity that is the construction industry. I have sat in the same room with some large scale developers and other construction types and to a man there wasn't a worthwhile human being among them. Building big ass boxes because (especially in the Midwest and South) building costs are much easier to pad than real estate costs, using illegal labor, cheapest available product and dumbed down techniques while charging like everything is a custom built jewel.

BTW, nothing against the illegal drywallers/fiberglass installers, et al. They work damn hard in miserable conditions. I just hate these parasite builders who make obscene profits by exploiting them and us.

V572625694 January 19, 2011 at 4:10 pm

Are you saying that we don't owe America's home builders and SUV manufacturers and big-box power center operators a permanent living despoiling the landscape and consuming resources? What kind of un-American horseshit is that? Every trim carpenter from Perris Valley CA to Dulles VA hates you for saying that.

crybabyboehner January 19, 2011 at 3:19 pm

If that fancy bathroom has not one but two showers, plus a spa tub, why do they need a urinal?

ttommyunger January 19, 2011 at 5:59 pm

You will be as surprised to learn as I was that some people actually step out of the shower to take a leak, Orrin Hatch, for one.

not that Dewey January 19, 2011 at 3:19 pm

All the cool Gringo bars in Cuidad Juarez have a trough with a drain that skirts the bar, along the floor, thus eliminating the need for urinals. One can simply pee, in situ, at the bar, and not have to lose any precious moments or calories.

I propose that all future real estate development on this scale be lined with wall-to-wall pee troughs.

jim89048 January 19, 2011 at 3:40 pm

In fairness to the barkeeps, those French drain urine troughs were installed because patrons were peeing on the floor already.

not that Dewey January 19, 2011 at 3:51 pm

Bring the mountain to Mohammed.

4TheTurnstiles January 19, 2011 at 3:46 pm

In Reno, Nevada, US&A, the hard core will "diaper up" before a night at Circus Circus, so that you never have to leave your seat at the Texas Tex and his Armadillo from Amarillo slot machine…

and these aren't just the elderly.

In fairness, the desserts are still pretty good at the Eldorado, but the rest of Casinotown is a PIECE OF CRAP.

ttommyunger January 19, 2011 at 6:01 pm

I never needed no stinkin' trough.

BaldarTFlagass January 19, 2011 at 3:19 pm

Well, it's obvious that house is in Houston, given the yellow sky.

mereoblivion January 19, 2011 at 4:39 pm

And here comes the bride!

KochFembot January 19, 2011 at 3:20 pm

Phoenix, AZ had a big overbuilding problem. Now many neighborhoods are empty and no one wants to buy houses in those neighborhoods.

Solution: build more houses!!

This country is so fucking great I can't stand it.

coolhandnuke January 19, 2011 at 3:21 pm

Finally, a windowless room with a television … and a urinal. If there’s a slot for the pizza delivery guy to just slide the box right there to the urinal/teevee, you’re set!
…..Go away I'm 'bating.

court5346 January 19, 2011 at 3:21 pm

I smell 100 year mortgages! Keep paying after you're dead!

ttommyunger January 19, 2011 at 6:02 pm

Mortgage liability passes to surviving kin in some countries.

SayItWithWookies January 19, 2011 at 3:22 pm

You know who I want influencing America's taste? Some jackdoodle who thinks if a breakfast nook is good and a kitchen island is good, why not jam one into the other and create something doubleplusgood?

Katydid January 19, 2011 at 8:30 pm

Whoa. A ridiculous fight recently broke out in the comments over there. One person named "elementaryteacher" wondered how long it would take her/him to afford the house, and some guy named "FairnessMan" shot back with this:

As an over pampered, overpaid, over perked, over pensioned, greedy, arrogant, lazy, ungrateful public parasite you should be able to afford it by the time you retire in your early 50's. In many areas of Amerika, such as here in NJ, you easily have a $100K+ salary, free lifetime health care, a very handsome pension. Excuse me while I go and cry for you. No teacher, cop, etc. should ever cry where people with real jobs and a fraction of your goodies can read it, especially since we suckers pay for it.

Um, can we guess where FairnessMan gets his "news?"

UW8316154 January 19, 2011 at 11:36 pm

FairnessMan sounds a wee bit bitter about those fancy teachers and their massive salaries….Not at the banking industry that fucked this country but good with the real estate bubble and CDO's – no, Fairnessman is pissed at the teachers.

Barbara_i January 19, 2011 at 3:23 pm

What, no nipple jets? My husband's shower has strategically placed nipple jets and I can't figure out what the hell they are for. I just googled "shower jets" hoping for a photo to show ya'll and it took me to a page that says Farve likes to show his weiner, yuck!

Oh well, if I ever breakdown and let my sister Nancy visit, she'll be able to rinse the shaving cream off. *snicker*

V572625694 January 19, 2011 at 5:59 pm

Men have nipples too, ya know. And they like a little, uh, washing once in a while. Although not the way the nether regions like a good spray

Barbara_i January 20, 2011 at 8:09 am

My husband thanks you for pointing that out to me. It's 6:00 AM here and I just turned to him and said, "V said men have nipple buds too" and he chuckled. Then he asked, "what else did they say?"

blinky_twinkie January 19, 2011 at 3:24 pm

Can we PLEEEEEEZE just give the country back to the Indians and all start living in tipis? I'm happy to forgo indoor plumbing just to see Bristol Palin's face when she realizes that just because "teepee" rhymes with "peepee" doesn't mean it's actually the toilet.

MsQuasimodo January 21, 2011 at 11:22 pm

We broke, trashed, and nearly killed the damn place. The Injuns don't want it back. The Pottery Barn rule!

Worthly Wokette Skum January 19, 2011 at 3:25 pm

I can't relate to a house without overflowing bookcases in every room.

GregComlish January 19, 2011 at 4:25 pm

not to mention decorative anthologies of classic literature that will never, ever be read.

Katydid January 19, 2011 at 8:44 pm

I got a Kindle for Christmas, and I'm not liking it as much as I thought I would. There's nothing like getting a new (or even used, but new-to-me) book. Somehow, it's just not the same.

fuflans January 19, 2011 at 3:26 pm

this is what happens when the noveau riche become the old poor.

sati_demise January 19, 2011 at 8:36 pm

They will all become boarding houses soon.

Fuck the zoning. Its gonna happen.

BlueStateLibel January 19, 2011 at 3:29 pm

You know what's worse? Ripping down small, but solidly constructed charming older homes for ugly mcmansions with lopsided shingling, which somehow wind up just 10 feet from the road. If you're going to spend all that dough, why build it even closer to the road? Is it so more people can see it and know you've got *&#* for brains?

BaldarTFlagass January 19, 2011 at 3:36 pm

And building them so close together that you and your next-door neighbor can play cards from your bathroom windows.

SayItWithWookies January 19, 2011 at 3:29 pm

You know what really enhances the natural beauty of hewn granite? Running it through with ribbons of brushed aluminum. This provides an excellent setting for one's Venus de Milo with attached prosthetic arms.

Buckminster January 19, 2011 at 3:36 pm

Throwing up in my mouth a little at that pic.

Jerri January 19, 2011 at 4:10 pm

I think I just died of beige overdose.

V572625694 January 19, 2011 at 6:00 pm

Goddamn that is handsome! Natural stone and natural aluminum.

Preferred Customer January 19, 2011 at 3:30 pm

Only a 6 car garage? Fail.

BarryOPotter January 19, 2011 at 4:32 pm

Seriously. Where's the missus 'sposed to park her 6 ginormous SUVs? Outside? Does it, at least, come with valet parking?

Ohmyhat January 19, 2011 at 3:31 pm

Yep. Mausoleum for the American Dream it is.

Tommmcatt January 19, 2011 at 3:34 pm

No bidet? I am totally too lazy to wipe my own ass.

SayItWithWookies January 19, 2011 at 3:43 pm

Nothing shouts "great idea!" like a wine rack accessible via a rolling ladder. It's like a sobriety-inducing torture game for the clumsy. Just switch 'em with the bookshelves okay? It's not like anyone living in this neoclassical garbage heap is gonna be doing a whole bunch of reading.

not that Dewey January 19, 2011 at 3:48 pm

You need to host a show on HGTV, my dear. You'd be like the Anthony Bourdain of home improvement.

SorosBot January 19, 2011 at 3:51 pm

Here's my favorite part – a triple garage with fake Roman-style columns:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/americas-top-201

Classy!

jim89048 January 19, 2011 at 3:45 pm

This is why I built my virtual refrigerator box dwelling under 700 sqft. No room for company, no need for domestic staff, and if I even had any offspring, they wouldn't be tempted to move back in with dear old Dad.

Extemporanus January 19, 2011 at 3:51 pm

Luxury Home Builder: "The master bedroom is a hendecagon. Look, right across the board, hendecagon, hendecagon, hendecagon, and…"
Luxury Home Buyer: "Oh, I see. And most master bedrooms are an octagon?"
Luxury Home Builder: "Exactly."
Luxury Home Buyer: "Does that mean it's larger? Is it any larger?" 
Luxury Home Builder: "Well, it's three larger, isn't it? It's not an octagon. You see, most buyers, you know, will be paying for an octagon. You're in an octagon here, all the walls up, all the walls up, all the walls up…you're in an octagon in your home. Where can you go from there? Where?"
Luxury Home Buyer: "I don't know." 
Luxury Home Builder: "Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?" 
Luxury Home Buyer: "Put in a hendecagon."
Luxury Home Builder: "Hendecagon. Exactly. Three larger."
Luxury Home Buyer: "Why don't you just make the octagon larger and make the octagon be the top number and make that a little larger?" 
Luxury Home Builder: [pause] "These have a hendecagon."

SorosBot January 19, 2011 at 3:53 pm

This has given me some ideas for my Sims 3 houses though; ideas on what to be careful to avoid.

stickscalhoun January 19, 2011 at 3:55 pm

My favorite is this comment, responding to a teacher pondering how long they'd have to work to buy it:

As an over pampered, overpaid, over perked, over pensioned, greedy, arrogant, lazy, ungrateful public parasite you should be able to afford it by the time you retire in your early 50's. In many areas of Amerika, such as here in NJ, you easily have a $100K+ salary, free lifetime health care, a very handsome pension. Excuse me while I go and cry for you. No teacher, cop, etc. should ever cry where people with real jobs and a fraction of your goodies can read it, especially since we suckers pay for it.

CrankyLttlCamperette January 19, 2011 at 3:58 pm

Oh, Ken, how you warm the cockles of my heart! I used to work for these folks (until they downsized me, because of the economy, you know) and you don't know how spot-on you are…

OneYieldRegular January 19, 2011 at 4:02 pm

I'll be lucky if I ever get to move out of my 700 sq. ft. apartment on Mediterranean Avenue and, without going directly to jail, make it to a 725 sq. ft. place on Baltic Avenue.

jus_wonderin January 19, 2011 at 4:26 pm

The upside, they are made of very durable and vividly colored plastic!!

Jerri January 19, 2011 at 4:08 pm

Not today kids, Momma's in her carpeted, windowless, pronged hub drinking boxed wine and trying to remember where she put the "Ys" and "GHs" in all your fucking stupid names.

Gross. Ugh. All I want is a nice little 2-3 bedroom post-war GI Bill built brick home like my grandma had, or maybe a ranch, or bungalow, with some ceramic tile in the kitchen & bath that hasn't been completely ruined by idiots trying to "update" their decor with ugly fake italian style tiles, and a fenced in yard for the dog. But as I am a poor, I am relegated to merely renting upper duplexes in said homes and pretending not to see the terrible updates people have put in these once cute and sturdy homes.

UW8316154 January 19, 2011 at 11:48 pm

I've got one of those! A 3 bedroom brick number in Seattle. It's all original, too, because I cannot figure out how to improve on the wonderful kitchen tile and hardwood flooring that it came with. Well, I upgraded windows. It was going to be a "starter" house, but honestly, I hope I die in this little house. It's all a person needs.

MsQuasimodo January 21, 2011 at 11:28 pm

I'm used to living in single rooms or studio apts. I aspire to a small one-bedroom apt. with the next job. My dream house would be one of these cute little 1920s-1930s one-story California bungalows.
Realistically, I could wind up in Plowmom's expansive refrigerator box (comment below).

Plowmon January 19, 2011 at 4:14 pm

My next home will likely be an expansive refrigerator box overlooking rats fucking in some rancid trash…

__kth__ January 19, 2011 at 4:15 pm

I could see an 8400 ft^2 house if you have a lot of houseguests. Like you're Fred Durst or Antoine Randel-El or whoever. But the typical John Galt who buys one of these things has his finger on the safety of his Glock as he looks through the peephole, on the semi-weekly occasion that someone rings his doorbell.

V572625694 January 19, 2011 at 4:16 pm

Are you saying that we don't owe America's home builders and SUV manufacturers and big-box power center operators a permanent living despoiling the landscape and consuming resources? What kind of un-American horseshit is that? Every unemployed trim carpenter from Perris Valley CA to Dulles VA hates you for saying that.

Wadisay January 19, 2011 at 4:23 pm

Don't tell John Edwards about this dump or he'll buy it for Rielle.

Jukesgrrl January 19, 2011 at 4:41 pm

Naw, she'll hold out for one that's one square foot bigger and one dollar more expensive than the one Elizabeth had (100 acres, 28,000 sq. ft., $6.75 million).

Jukesgrrl January 19, 2011 at 10:10 pm

Naw, she wants one that is one square foot bigger and $1 dollar more expensive than the one Elizabeth had (100 acres; 28,000 sq. ft., and $6.75 million).

not that Dewey January 19, 2011 at 4:32 pm

I take it that Spring Garden St. in Phille is *not* like Rush/Division Sts in Chicago. If it were, that trough would have been tried hundreds of times just last weekend.

SorosBot January 19, 2011 at 4:36 pm

Having lived in both cities, both areas attract lots of hipster types but you can actually see black people around Spring Garden.

not that Dewey January 19, 2011 at 5:04 pm

Granted, it's been awhile since I lived in Chicago, but at the time, Rush St was basically an extended Frat House/Girls Gone Wild set. As Jim pointed out above, they were "peeing on the floor already" (if we're lucky).

O/T: I had the privilege of watching, from 23 floors above, these brainless morans set fire to taxicabs on the streets below because the Bulls had won a game. It made me proud to be an American.

Jukesgrrl January 19, 2011 at 4:36 pm

When I got to the part that said "Read More," I almost couldn't.

Golfing_OJ January 19, 2011 at 4:41 pm

"unwanted adult children living in squalid fourth-ring apartment complexes"

Pass the fucking peanuts already, someone.

mereoblivion January 19, 2011 at 4:45 pm

My only question before I make the down payment: Can I walk to Disney World?

Jukesgrrl January 19, 2011 at 6:05 pm

No, but your Hoveround will make it on one battery charge.

mereoblivion January 19, 2011 at 9:03 pm

Good to know. No way I'm gonna walk anywhere, living in that dump. I'll have servants do my walking for me. So why did I ask? I can't remember. My servants do my remembering for me.

Jukesgrrl January 19, 2011 at 10:03 pm

Just remember where the urinal is.

mereoblivion January 20, 2011 at 12:32 pm

Urinals are for poor people. I'll use the hot tub.

Neoyorquino January 19, 2011 at 4:46 pm

The Octagon? Awesome That's where I'm holding my Fight Club.

Plowmon January 19, 2011 at 5:20 pm

They're going up, supply and demand…

problemwithcaring January 19, 2011 at 5:52 pm

Ooh! I think Ken hurt the Culture Map people's feelings with his throwaway "gross website" comment. If any CultureMap people are reading, I want to say that your website, while indeed gross, is no more or less gross than say, the Huffington Post. And Ken possibly agrees. (Or he may be banhammering me at this very moment, possibly.)

V572625694 January 19, 2011 at 6:02 pm

These people have no idea what harsh sunlight can do to your older Bordeauxz.

ttommyunger January 19, 2011 at 6:08 pm

You will think I'm jiving, but if I ever find myself single again-no more houses, apartments, rooms or the like. I've got the gear, the knowhow and the attitude. Stealth Camping all the way across the Country, by motorcycle. I am so sick of furnace filters, throw rugs, utility bills, dryers, roofs and yards I could just shit!

UW8316154 January 19, 2011 at 11:52 pm

Call me when you get to Seattle, Tommy, you can take a shower at my place and I'll have a nice dinner ready for you.

ttommyunger January 20, 2011 at 10:17 am

Very generous (and trusting) of you. I plan (pipe dream?) to take in your neck of the woods and then down Hwy 1 along the coast to the Southern Border. Considering the annual rainfall in your area, all I'll need is some privacy and a bar of soap for the shower, but the home-cooked meal sounds inviting. If you provide a number/name, I promise I will file it, back it up and have it ready if and when that happens. Been thinking about Appalachian trail for starters (North to South); that will take the better part of a year if any of it comes to fruition. Thomas (Tommy) Unger-ttommyunger@mac.com, 404 372 9907.

MsQuasimodo January 21, 2011 at 11:33 pm

Lotsa people are doing that along the CA coast – many here in San Diego. The weather is compatible with car- or van-living. You can find places to park and be pretty inconspicuous. Just have a gym membership, a cell phone, laptop, and way to get mail. You don't need many possessions. Just a relatively comfortable van to sleep in – many of them were/are made for overnight camping already. There are many homeless people who live this way and who blend in with "normal" society.

ttommyunger January 22, 2011 at 9:51 pm

I do want to experience so much of America I did not take the time to see or appreciate fully when I was too young and dumb to do so; i.e. I would not be staying in one locale more than a few days.

MinAgain January 19, 2011 at 7:29 pm

Modern classical. Another oxymoron in the tradition of military intelligence, peacekeeper missile, and athletic scholarship.

bumfug January 19, 2011 at 7:31 pm

Call me cynical but an 8400 sq. ft. concrete building with a windowless panic-cell sounds like a shower room at Auschwitz.

politics_nerd January 20, 2011 at 12:54 am

call me crazy but dont you need s shitter too?

iwprgroup January 20, 2011 at 9:34 am

Marianne Cusato. Get Your House Right. http://www.builderconcepthome2010.com/

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