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January 13, 2011

Q&A With Eliot Weinberger (Who Wrote That Great Bush Bio Review)

by Greer Mansfield  

Incorporating Washington Post Book World.Tragically, Wonkette World o’ Books hasn’t read any stream-of-consciousness Sarah Palin diaries or Glenn Beck murder mysteries in the last few weeks. This means there will be no book “review” this week. What to do instead? Well, surely you all remember that funny and imaginative review of George W. Bush’s Decision Points in the London Review of Books a few weeks ago. By some weird coincidence, your Wonkette reviewer started corresponding with the piece’s author, Eliot Weinberger, just before it was published. At some point, we wondered if Mr. Weinberger would be willing to sit down for a shambolic Wonkette interview. He kindly agreed.

Folks all over the political Internet enjoyed Weinberger’s review, though very few of the enthusiastic blog posts or twitterings mentioned his name (most credited it to an author named “the London Review of Books”). Which is curious, because Eliot Weinberger is one of our best living writers.

Obviously, he writes about politics. If you want to read some of the most cutting and hilarious polemic of the Bush-Cheney years, check out What Happened Here: Bush Chronicles, a collection of essays and columns he wrote for foreign newspapers during the early ‘00s.

But most of his work is about other things. To name a few: T’ang China, lovelorn poetry-writing donkeys, the Hindu concept of “karmic traces,” the dreams of Icelanders and Lacandons, dogs that served as political analysts in medieval India, naked mole rats (“their hearing is acute”), tigers, rhinoceroses, rivers, stars, crocodiles, zócalos, land-mines and the wind. He’s written idiosyncratic versions of renga, and countless memorable essays on all sorts of writers. He’s also translated the likes of Jorge Luis Borges and Octavio Paz and Bel Dao.

Reading about the upcoming sanitization of Huckleberry Finn, your reviewer remembered a sentence of Weinberger’s: “Poetry doesn’t answer questions or close wounds; it opens them.”

He does all of this in a form that blends essay, narrative and prose poem, written in a style unlike anyone else. Being Americans, we tend to import our strange and unclassifiable writers (recent examples: Sebald, Calasso, Bolaño). Those foreigners are great, to be sure, but we also have an excellent unclassifiable writer right here in U.S. America: Eliot Weinberger, who wrote that playful Bush-meets-Foucault review of Decision Points, which you all liked.

Anyway, Wonkette World o’ Books (WWB) and Eliot Weinberger (EW) conducted this interview via email, because our carrier pigeons kept falling out of the sky.

WWB: : You once wrote an essay on the use of dogs as political analysts in medieval India. What, if anything, does America stand to gain if we hand over the business of punditry to our canine friends?

EW: Dogs in medieval India gave very good advice to the maharajahs, but in contemporary America they tend to give instructions to people like Son of Sam. In Bush’s case, it’s hard to say whether he would have been better off listening to Barney than to Cheney.

But since this is Wonkette, it’s worth mentioning that the Internet is paradoxically ephemeral with a long memory. One of its great delights is the legions of bloggers out there researching what the pundits once said, and reminding us that, especially in the Bush years, they were almost unanimously and almost consistently completely wrong.

WWB: In your review you point out that Bush’s book, like most “self”-justifying political memoirs, is written in colorless PR/boardroom-speak. First: why do you think PR-speak is the standard style for these things? And second: Can you imagine a style that would give a truer picture of Bush and his presidency?

EW: The USA rests on the myth of the rugged individual, and the transformation to a service economy has created a comical new figure, prominent in TV ads for airlines and communication networks: the hero with a laptop in airport lounge, serving “business” as though it were the American dream, participating in the last great adventure. In this world, real men talk in the clipped jargon of business-speak. No time for dilly-dallying, elegant turns of phrase– — these are Calvinists with a mission.

Of course, one dreams of more appropriate ghostwriters for Bush’s memoir: Kafka, Malcolm Lowry, García Márquez, Thomas Pynchon ….

WWB: Your Decision Points review went viral in the political blogosphere. Most of the pieces that end up heavily blogged and tweeted about on the political Web aren’t written by literary writers/noted translators of Paz, Borges and Bei Dao. This combination (literary writer writing about politics) occurs fairly often in other countries, but not so often here. What is it with the division of labor in American writing? Why do you think America keeps its op-eds written by think tank nerds and its novels and poetry written by people who don’t seem terribly interested in the wider world?

EW: The USA is possibly the only country on earth that doesn’t take nationalistic pride in its cultural producers. Everywhere else, literary writers — as presumably the most articulate among us — are regularly called upon to comment on the political and social events of our time. They’re on TV all the time; they’re continually being interviewed; poets have columns in the newspapers. My political articles during the Bush years were translated into thirty languages, and were considered “normal” elsewhere. In the USA, they were not published in magazines or newspapers, but circulated on the Internet. Even then, I’d get letters from Americans asking me what my “credentials” were.

The other side of this is that the poets and novelists have retreated into the self and the writing school, increasingly clueless about how to talk about what’s happening in the world. As I’ve written, after 9/11, the New York Times and the New Yorker asked prominent writers to respond. One said it reminded him of the day his father died; another took an herbal bath and called an old boyfriend; and so on. Only Susan Sontag — and she was reviled for it — could put it into a larger context, but of course Sontag modeled herself on European public intellectuals.

WWB: People would call your Decision Points review one of your “normal” essays, as opposed to, say, the poetic/dreamlike essays in An Elemental Thing. Nonetheless, you take several stylistic and formal risks in even your more straightforward essays. There are many Weinberger-esque touches in the review, like the catalogue of outrages Team DP left out of the book (“no colour-coded terror alerts; no Freedom Fries…”) and the “three revelations” at the end, not to mention the image of Bush branding asses. Do you see any real distinction between your more direct essays and your more (for lack of a better term) “lyrical” essays?

EW: The obvious difference is that some essays are commissioned for specific publications and what you call the “lyrical” essays are written for myself. Nevertheless, I try to stretch the “straightforward” a little. After all, these are all written by the same person. But — and it’s another topic — there’s no reason why most magazine articles, especially in so-called “highbrow” magazines, should be thrown in the editorial Cuisnart and come out all sounding the same. I try to put up a little resistance to that, to wander toward the border between subversive and realistically publishable.

WWB: Thank you, sir!

Eliot Weinberger’s recent books include Oranges & Peanuts for Sale and An Elemental Thing (New Directions Paperbook), both published by New Directions.

{ 43 comments }

Guckelt January 13, 2011 at 2:14 pm

Pretty serious and obscure for a humor site.

SorosBot January 13, 2011 at 2:26 pm

Illiterate poopyhead.

HempDogbane January 13, 2011 at 2:31 pm

Pretty stupid and obscure for a troll.

ManchuCandidate January 13, 2011 at 2:32 pm

He's Dennis Miller?

glamourdammerung January 13, 2011 at 2:38 pm

I think you probably do not realise you are not posting on the "Big" humor sites of Little Andy "Fake Pimping Ain't Easy" Breitbart.

Sophist FCD January 13, 2011 at 2:46 pm

Wonkette is large, it contains multitudes.

Besides, you can only make so many "Blood Libel" jokes.

metamarcisf January 13, 2011 at 3:31 pm

More fart jokes, please.

GOPCrusher January 13, 2011 at 5:14 pm

Needz moar people stepping on rakes.

Angry_Marmot January 13, 2011 at 9:34 pm

I'm serious and obscure, and I vote.

WriteyWriterton January 13, 2011 at 2:18 pm

Come for the snark, stay for the Derrida?

jim89048 January 13, 2011 at 9:42 pm

Or Doritos. They're the body of Christ!

WriteyWriterton January 14, 2011 at 12:08 am

Now with MORE MSG! (Monotheistic Sanctimonious Garbage.)

DoktorZoom January 13, 2011 at 10:24 pm

D'ya wanna know the creed'a
Jacques Derrida?
Dere ain't no reada
Dere ain't no wrider
Eider.

Peter Mullen, "Deconstruction"

WriteyWriterton January 14, 2011 at 12:06 am

Brilliant and scrupulously sourced, unlike Snowbilly's blood-libel canard.

ManchuCandidate January 13, 2011 at 2:19 pm

To Mr Author of the DP Slam aka EW
Cruel. Check
Nasty. Check
Literate. Check
Truthful. Check

Bravo I say. And I would like to point out that DP* is none of those things.

*DP – Decisions Points or Double Penetration

SorosBot January 13, 2011 at 2:20 pm

It may be hard to say if Bush would have been better off, but we would be a hell of a lot better off if Bush listened to Barney instead of Cheney.

ManchuCandidate January 13, 2011 at 2:22 pm

The mental image of Bush humping Cheney's leg, oddly enough, amuses me.

OhNoGuy January 13, 2011 at 10:00 pm

This is truly the image for the start of the 20th century.

It's all down hill from here.

HateMachine January 13, 2011 at 2:51 pm

Conversely, Cheney could have been the running mate and advisor to Barney rather than Bush, and the only differences we would see in history books would be the photos.

HempDogbane January 13, 2011 at 2:33 pm

Name-check Kafka, talk about Bush. Why do you hate Amerika?

PsycWench January 13, 2011 at 2:35 pm

I thought Bush's memoir would have some pull-out pages for coloring and stickers.

BerkeleyBear January 13, 2011 at 7:47 pm

That's just the super special edition of the galleys he looked over.

At least I assume they used that to keep the interest of a guy who gave all of a second's pause about terror warnings.

MinAgain January 13, 2011 at 2:38 pm

He sounds smart and insightful and well educated. What the hell is he doing on Wonkette?

Sophist FCD January 13, 2011 at 2:49 pm

Looking for the exit, one assumes.

OhNoGuy January 13, 2011 at 10:03 pm

Slumming.

WriteyWriterton January 13, 2011 at 2:39 pm

Alternate Bush bio review:

F*&k you, you f*^3in' f*^@!

freakishlywrong January 13, 2011 at 2:42 pm

What happened here? Nothing. Unfortunately, nothing. We're too busy looking forward.

LionelHutzEsq January 13, 2011 at 2:47 pm

What? Dogs are not pundits in America? Then how do you explain Dick Morris dry humping Sean Hannity's leg every time he is on?

Angry_Marmot January 13, 2011 at 9:37 pm

Dick's just trying to work his way down to the feet.

V572625694 January 13, 2011 at 2:52 pm

I wish Greer had interviewed T-Paw, or that Elliot Weinberger would write an essay about him.

Or that T-Paw would just die now. Of natural causes of course. I would never incite violence against anyone except my cable company. And my cell phone provider.

OhNoGuy January 13, 2011 at 10:09 pm

Saw T-Paw tonight on TV . His pandering is so pathetic.

He's like a fresh faced whore, claiming it 's the first time but asking that the money be left on the night stand.

Ducksworthy January 13, 2011 at 2:54 pm

Bush's book will remain unique in the history of human literature. In a thousand years no one will ever again refer to Clarence Thomas as wise, principled and human man.

Ducksworthy January 13, 2011 at 2:58 pm

Hmmm I left the e off of humane but this works too.

Bush's book will remain unique in the history of human literature. In a thousand years no one will ever again refer to Clarence Thomas as wise, principled and human man.

neiltheblaze January 13, 2011 at 3:07 pm

Excellent stuff. No snark!

frostbitefalls January 13, 2011 at 3:34 pm

I heart Weinberger.

inedal January 13, 2011 at 3:40 pm

this is not the same weinberger who was pardoned by Bush Sr. during the nasty scandals….. no, that was Caspar.

thefrontpage January 13, 2011 at 3:42 pm

Eliot Weinberger is a new hero!

Kudos to Wonkette for this great interview! Let's see more of these!

For the record: The Bush II administration, along with the Nixon, Reagan and Bush I administrations, was one of the absolute worst and most corrupt and most idiotic presidential administrations in the entire history of the United States. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, Rove, Miers, Gonzalez, Rice and several other morons should be sitting in prison cells right now for political corruption, not running around like idiots pushing stupid, lying books and obvious lies. The administration was a failture on just about every level, and it was completely, thoroughly corrupt.

hagajim January 13, 2011 at 4:36 pm

And like its predecessors, Bush II had lad largely the same case of characters…makes you think about how stupid and shortsighted Americans are doesn't it.

Rotundo_ January 13, 2011 at 7:12 pm

You had to pay attention to the cast of characters in each successive administration to keep it all in order and see the transition. As a long time observer it seems so obvious. To someone who tosses the front pages of the paper to get to the sports and funnies, they never did figure it out. People in this country can trot out incredibly esoteric data about fucking football and don't even start on baseball fans, and yet, they don't know the name of the congressman that "represents" them and wonder why their unemployment ran out. Ever notice how much of talk radio in politics has come to mimic talk radio in sports? Not an accident.

horsedreamer_1 January 14, 2011 at 9:48 am

Dime-store Darrell [Issa] has told me Obama has fronted the most corrupt administration in history.

So, you lie, frontpage!

JackObin January 13, 2011 at 5:16 pm

George Bush has written one more book than he's read.

MiniMencken January 13, 2011 at 6:03 pm

How do the Brits wind up with the best Jews? Here we are, lifting our lamp by the golden door and supporting Israel through thick and thin and we get Kristol, Krauthammer and Breitbart and they get Eliot Weinberger and Isaiah Berlin? Oh, fiddlesticks! I am SO stamping my tiny feet as I write this!

FNMA January 14, 2011 at 8:41 am

I like the idea of Kafka ghosting the idiot king's memoirs. In it, Cheney would be a huge cockroach. Wait a minute…

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