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December 15, 2010

War In Afghanistan Still Terrible and Pointless

by Riley Waggaman  

This photograph proves we 'lost'

  • The Obama administration will publish a report tomorrow detailing how comically pointless the War in Afghanistan really is. This is what we presume, at least, since Robert Gibbs insists the report’s findings will “not surprise” anyone. And yet, according to Fox News, the classified (of course) intelligence this report was originally based on offers “a more negative assessment” than the Obama administration will unveil on Thursday. The Guardian seems to agree, claiming “the review … is at odds with a separate report by US intelligence services that is much gloomier about the war’s progress.” See? This is why Julian Assange should be extradited to a CIA rape prison and tortured until he promises to stop telling the truth, which is usually less flattering and more “truthful” than the watered-down bullshit that is spoon fed to Americans every single day. Good morning! [WaPo/Fox News/The Guardian]
  • The United States relies on Precious Chinese Minerals in order to produce such things as “electric cars” and “wind turbines.” Hippies take note! Everyone else: Keep driving racist Toyotas or whatever. You’re doing great! [NYT]
  • Kosovo Prime Minister Hashim Thaci has been accused of organ trafficking. Yes. We just thought you’d like to know. [AFP]

{ 114 comments }

Terry December 15, 2010 at 8:36 am

We fool ourselves into thinking that places like Chicago and Louisiana are truly corrupt. Kosovo shows us that they, along with US Dept of Defense contracting and most anything in China, are the real major leagues of corruption.

An_Outhouse December 15, 2010 at 12:21 pm

1) Grant Kosovo independence
2) ????
3) Profit!

At least that's what Billary assured us. Plus Camp Boehner-Steele. Don't forget the important contributions of the military-industrial complex.

glamourdammerung December 15, 2010 at 2:35 pm

What about Israel? Between the organ harvesting rings and other scams, their politicians have reached a level of graft that ours merely aspire to.

Numbat_Dundee December 15, 2010 at 5:14 pm

I'm confused. What's wrong with someone selling musical instruments? Unless it's those Hammond home organ things they used to have. They used to shit me no end.

glamourdammerung December 15, 2010 at 6:48 pm

Wrong type of organ there.

And no, it was not a dick joke either.

Badonkadonkette December 15, 2010 at 8:37 am

Kosovo Prime Minister Hashim Thaci has been accused of organ trafficking.

Oh that's nothing – the whole GOP's been sneaking in rusty trombones anywhere they can get them for years.

PsycWench December 15, 2010 at 9:18 am

Dunno, the news over the last couple of years suggests that the GOP is keeping their instruments well polished. I'm sure that was Mark Foley's plan for the pages.

arihaya December 15, 2010 at 10:18 am

Cheney need some livers to eat with fava beans

bumfug December 15, 2010 at 8:38 am

We can't handle the truth.

slappypaddy December 15, 2010 at 12:06 pm

the truth has no handles, it is a slippery thing.

Numbat_Dundee December 15, 2010 at 5:15 pm

I handled it once. It's overrated. Now I prefer to handle imaginary genitalia.

tcaalaw December 15, 2010 at 8:43 am

My one sentence précis of the upcoming Afghanistan report: We're f****d, but we're going to keep doing the same thing as long as the Red Chinese will keep lending us money because nobody in Washington, D.C. has even half the balls to admit they were wrong.

SorosBot December 15, 2010 at 9:45 am

This has kind of disproven the saying, "History repeats itself, the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce," because both Vietnam and Iraq/Afghanistan have just been tragedies.

BorderJumper! December 15, 2010 at 9:54 am

Nobody in DC has balls. Period.

V572625694 December 15, 2010 at 10:02 am

That's why Hopey brought Clinton back.

An_Outhouse December 15, 2010 at 12:23 pm

and Clinton was so correct about Kosovo.

Negropolis December 15, 2010 at 11:35 pm

Actually, he really was. Just because this particular head of government has gotten his hand caught in the proverbial corpse doesn't mean that Serbian rule was justified. Whatever has happened in Kosovo pales in comparison to the moral bankruptcy that is Serbia, period.

So, honestly, you can get off on this kick that America was wrong about helping Kosovan independence. I guess you're on the Sudanese government's side in Darfur, too, huh?

johnnyzhivago December 15, 2010 at 8:44 am

Honestly, I would think there would be a bigger market for pianos in Europe.

GOPCrusher December 15, 2010 at 12:57 pm

And violins would be easier to move.

PsycWench December 15, 2010 at 8:46 am

Uh, I think the public is way ahead of the Administration about the pointless of the War in Afghanistan.

horsedreamer_1 December 15, 2010 at 8:46 am

How far true despots have fallen: Idi Amin never would have trafficked in organs; he would have eaten them. Raw. With an hint of paprika & Kosher (ironic, I know) sea salt.

PsycWench December 15, 2010 at 8:50 am

Not fava beans and a nice Chianti?

horsedreamer_1 December 15, 2010 at 8:51 am

So declase, so gauche, really. Idi was a man of distinction.

BerkeleyBear December 15, 2010 at 10:16 am

I dunno – he liked all things Scottish, so maybe he'd be up for a haggis followed by a round of headbashing.

glamourdammerung December 15, 2010 at 2:36 pm

And 30 oranges a day. To replenish his "sexual power" of course.

ManchuCandidate December 15, 2010 at 8:57 am

It's funny that the Afghan mess might have been avoided if the US America didn't go into Iraq and concentrated its (then) massive military might there, but we forgot the US America lure of a good bargain. What's better than one war? Two wars… two fucking ginormously expensive clusterfucking wars. Only problem is that the previous "owner" left the crippling balloon payments and "Who lost Iraqinam and the Big A?" questions to the next guy.

ttommyunger December 15, 2010 at 9:25 am

I like the poster of Dubya saying: "I Fucked You All, and thanks for blaming the black guy!"

horsedreamer_1 December 15, 2010 at 9:36 am

What did Kanye do now?

ttommyunger December 15, 2010 at 10:14 am

Didn't he just go the prison for Tax Evasion? I don't know, they all do look alike, don't they?

GOPCrusher December 15, 2010 at 12:59 pm

No. That was Mario Van Peeples.

V572625694 December 15, 2010 at 10:04 am

The solution is to keep starting wars (Iran, No Korea, Pakistan) and make up for the losses with volume. This is the Costco Strategy: we don't need that many wars, but at these prices, you gotta buy 'em! Plus finding a parking space at the Pentagon was so hard you don't want to have to come back that often if you can avoid it.

freakishlywrong December 15, 2010 at 9:00 am

Obamar is still afraid Dick n' Liz will say mean shit about him and accuse him of not "keeping America safe" if he pulls out of a hopeless, pointless land war in East Asia. It's only Wednesday and the week's in the shitter.

JoeMamased December 15, 2010 at 9:06 am

Afghanistan: Nothing new
China: Nothing new
Kosovo: New, but not unexpected.
All in all: Meh.

What you got that I can use as an excuse for drinking today?

Moonbat December 15, 2010 at 9:24 am

The sun came up … again!

glamourdammerung December 15, 2010 at 2:37 pm

What is this sun thing I have heard others speak of in hushed whispers?

prommie December 15, 2010 at 9:56 am

That there is nothing new?

V572625694 December 15, 2010 at 10:05 am

Abramoff's kosher-pizza career/rehab program is still working for me.

GOPCrusher December 15, 2010 at 1:01 pm

Soul crushing monotony?

Kidneys4Sale December 15, 2010 at 2:06 pm

Jesus, man…we've been over this. If you just wait around, you'll find yourself sober at 3pm.

Just start within 5 minutes of waking up, and if anyone questions you as to why you're rip-shitty at 6:32 in the morning, you just say "Oh…you'll see." By early evening, your justification will have delivered itself.

Monsieur_Grumpe December 15, 2010 at 9:07 am

I thought I would do my part to help with the rare earth shortage (Precious Chinese Minerals) by pedaling my bike a little more. But my bike is buried in 6 foot snow drifts, I can’t see the bird feeder any more, the ice damns have blocked all my doors, my cat is wondering what I would taste like and my snow shovel is missing. I'll get on that rare earth shortage in the spring.

PsycWench December 15, 2010 at 9:09 am

If you were a teabagger that comment would have concluded with a statement about how this means that global warming is obviously a hoax. Everybody knows that global warming is incompatible with the presence of any snow, anywhere.

trampndirtdown December 15, 2010 at 9:19 am

They just don't seem to get the whole more extreme weather cycle thing about climate change do they? Can't wait till they wake up one day and start screaming bout how this is all the proggies fault.

ttommyunger December 15, 2010 at 9:27 am

They don't get the Earth is Round thingy or the Sun Rises in the East thingy, or Glenn and Rush are opportunistic douches thingy, either.

PsycWench December 15, 2010 at 9:34 am

Or for that matter, that not every hysterical email your high school friend sends you is 100% true. It's not like you could look up this information on http://www.snopes.com or anything.

glamourdammerung December 15, 2010 at 2:47 pm

The three "facts" that disprove climate change:
1. It snowed. Anywhere.
2. Al Gore is fat.
3. The Clash mentioned global cooling in "London Calling".

It is hard to refute that solid scientific analysis the teabaggers clearly put into this.

FNMA December 15, 2010 at 9:15 am

That's not so bad. Tell us when you start wondering how the cat would taste. Or have you passed that milestone already…

HedonismBot December 15, 2010 at 9:55 am

Ice damns. Snow damns. Slush damns. Damned winter.

horsedreamer_1 December 15, 2010 at 10:10 am

But no dental dams?

What!? Do you want Willow Palin to get herpes simplex b?

Boehneriffic December 15, 2010 at 9:09 am

As for the organ trafficking, don't knock it. I got a hell of a deal on a Wurlitzer.

JoeMamased December 15, 2010 at 9:13 am

That's great, but how are you gonna fit it into your abdominal cavity?

FNMA December 15, 2010 at 9:17 am

Well, my cousin was on the waiting list for a Wurlitzer and he had to settle for a Lowrey and now he can't pee.

ttommyunger December 15, 2010 at 9:28 am

But when he farts, it is BEAUTIFUL!

horsedreamer_1 December 15, 2010 at 9:38 am

Welcome to Wonkette, Mark Oliver Everett! Glad to have you back in the DC fold.

Any new eels material in the works, though?

738838 December 15, 2010 at 9:14 am

I could use a little more "traffic" on my organ.

horsedreamer_1 December 15, 2010 at 9:39 am

Recalls the pub-trivia "best team name" of last nite: CHRISTMAS COMES BUT ONCE A YEAR, AND LATELY SO DO I.

cheetojeebus December 15, 2010 at 9:16 am

Don't miss Hashim at the Kosovo Ramada Inn! " Hey what's better than roses on a piano? Tulips on an organ, OH! hey thank you… yeah, hey try the veal!"

Weenus299 December 15, 2010 at 9:17 am

No words. Just the formulation "Fucking Depressed," and I'm moving on.

SorosBot December 15, 2010 at 9:25 am

So Kosovo gives us another corrupt regime basically put in place by the US; since Truman installed Syngman Rhee in South Korea, there may not be a single US President that hasn't helped at least one corrupt authoritarian leader take power. (Carter maybe?)

horsedreamer_1 December 15, 2010 at 9:40 am

Even Carter hosted Ceausescu at the White House.

Of course, Nicu had yet to go full retard, at the time. Still…

Oblios_Cap December 15, 2010 at 9:51 am

Wasn't that Titan of Statesmanship, Richard H., somehow involved in the Balkans? I wonder if they worked out Thaci's share of the organ market at Dayton?

horsedreamer_1 December 15, 2010 at 10:11 am

Bosnia /= Kosovo. Even if they're mostly Muslins.

arihaya December 15, 2010 at 10:12 am

umm no

Holbrooke's negotiation was about conflict in Bosnia,, that was about the war where Bosnian Muslims (Bosniaks), Croats and Serbs killing each other,,

Kosovan (Albanian) was not involved in Dayton

Oblios_Cap December 15, 2010 at 11:51 am

I knew it was a stretch, but I was closer to the truth than FAUX News has ever been.

Lascauxcaveman December 15, 2010 at 11:56 am

Aim a little higher.

Serolf_Divad December 15, 2010 at 9:29 am

The United States relies on Precious Chinese Minerals in order to produce such things as “electric cars” and “wind turbines.”

I do not avoid women Mandrake, but I do deny them my essence…

prommie December 15, 2010 at 9:53 am

They're putting lead in ice cream, children's ice cream. . .

ttommyunger December 15, 2010 at 9:34 am

I guess Afghanistan is really in the crapper now that its Savior, Richard Holbrooke, has been posted to Barry's Embassy in Heaven. Speaking of dicks, was gobsmacked last night to see PBS had enlisted John Fucking Negroponte, the Main Honcho of South American Death Squads, to extoll Holbrooke's myriad virtues and accomplishments. I felt like I was in a time warp and watching Al Capone delivering the Eulogy for John Dillinger.

Oblios_Cap December 15, 2010 at 9:38 am

Now that Holbrooke's dead, they'll have an excuse to postpone to withdrawal of troops because the "greatest evah diplomat" isn't there to do the heavy lifting anymore.

Given the people that are all broken up over Dick's loss, I have a hard time mustering any respect for him. Just another Village Idiot, not some kind of Giant of Foggy Bottom.

ttommyunger December 15, 2010 at 10:15 am

A giant dick.

horsedreamer_1 December 15, 2010 at 9:41 am

Do you mean Elliott Ness, for Dillinger?

ttommyunger December 15, 2010 at 10:16 am

Nope.

HedonismBot December 15, 2010 at 10:04 am

According to Obama's lackeys, Holbrooke's dying words ("Get the U.S. out of Afghanistan," or something to that effect) were a "joke." Because that is the kind of thing a dying diplomat would joke about just before he departs this mortal coil.
So, if we don't leave, we are just fulfilling his real, non-facetious wishes.

ttommyunger December 15, 2010 at 10:17 am

Yeah, I've had several surgeries, always feel real jokey with my surgeon just before going under the fucking blade, never fails.

Preferred Customer December 15, 2010 at 9:39 am

Racist Toyotas? That's a Buick. Toyotas are too bland and inoffensive to be racist.

Oblios_Cap December 15, 2010 at 9:52 am

Toyotas don't brake for just anybody, though.

Dr_pangloss December 15, 2010 at 9:44 am

Like I've said for years we should have blown the fuck out of anyone in Afganistan named Al Q. Ida declared victory and got the fuck out.

prommie December 15, 2010 at 9:51 am

We've always been at war with Eurasia. Take your soma, now.

SorosBot December 15, 2010 at 9:52 am

Someone's mixing up their distopian sci-fi here.

V572625694 December 15, 2010 at 10:09 am

We're only fifteen minutes into the future. Keep watching Network 23.

prommie December 15, 2010 at 10:46 am

Its the worst of both worlds.

SorosBot December 15, 2010 at 10:49 am

I don't know, I think I'd like some soma (along with the rampant casual sex).

prommie December 15, 2010 at 12:04 pm

Well, having come of age in the 1970s, I can say that the rampant casual sex was kinda nice.

weejee December 15, 2010 at 9:53 am

'Scusies. That newz from China is giving Uncle Sam a lanthanide contraction.

WarAndGee December 15, 2010 at 9:56 am

"War In Afghanistan Still Terrible and Pointless"…well then it will surely be the crown jewel of the next Republican President's foreign policy doctrine.

trampndirtdown December 15, 2010 at 10:10 am

No redstate says the invasion of Mexico is tops on the list.

Kidneys4Sale December 15, 2010 at 2:12 pm

If by "next Republican President", you mean Barry's 2nd term, then…yeah, prolly.

twaingirl December 15, 2010 at 9:57 am

re:headline: was it ever NOT terrible and pointless?

SorosBot December 15, 2010 at 10:16 am

Back when we still had a shot at capturing Bin Laden, before Bush just gave up to pull out many of the troops to send them to deal with his daddy issues instead.

Not since though.

Negropolis December 15, 2010 at 11:45 pm

Thing was, we didn't need to do a full-scale invasion to hunt for Bin Laden. So, no, it was never good. You know, I used to believe the talking point that if we hadn't invaded Iraq we'd have "won" Afghanistan, it's become apparent if it wasn't for everyone at the beginning that neither of these wars was "the right war."

LakeAfflicted December 15, 2010 at 3:42 pm

The prize for a successful invasion of Afghanistan is…Afghanistan. Somehow this important caveat was overlooked.

arihaya December 15, 2010 at 10:05 am

This Hashim Thaci fellow was seen palling around with Great Leader George W Bush some times ago …..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:President_Bush_...

user-of-owls December 15, 2010 at 10:15 am

A moment of silence, please, to mourn the passing of unjaded Riley. His refreshing lack of venom and cynicism will be sorely missed.

JoeMamased December 15, 2010 at 10:39 am

/:sniff:/ Wonkette's little intern is all grown up! /:sniff:/

Mahousu December 15, 2010 at 10:29 am

So Fox News is reporting classified (albeit totally obvious) information now? Guess the Air Force will have to ban them, too.

imissopus December 15, 2010 at 1:09 pm

Or better yet, put them in solitary confinement in the brig.

kenlayisalive December 15, 2010 at 10:36 am

Why is FOX News reporting on classified documents?! Rapists!

I love that the new talking point for all bad news is "its nothing new" and "this shouldn't surprise anyone". I guess we shouldn't be surprised anymore by how bad things are. That everything is entirely fucked up and corrupt and stupid – I guess that should be starting point for all analysis of depressed loser country #1 USA.

GOPCrusher December 15, 2010 at 1:08 pm

What did you expect when that colored boy became President?

hagajim December 15, 2010 at 10:49 am

I will take my spoon fed watered down bullshit with soy milk please…lactose intolerant. As for organ trafficking – what does the P.M. have against terrible sounding pianos?

Finally – if Wikileaks hasn't done it yet, the U.S. relies heavily on China for all of our awesome lead infested toys as well.

MinAgain December 15, 2010 at 11:46 am

"You fell victim to one of the classic blunders. The most famous is, 'Never get involved in a land war in Asia'…"

Neilist December 15, 2010 at 12:17 pm

/Snark off

I accept that you Communist Liberal Pinko SKUM despise me — with good reason, of course. But what follows is not bullshit.

A very old friend of mine, who is career Foreign Service currently posted to Helmet Province, tells me that a USMC senior officer recently had to submit a report on counterinsurgency operations.

So the Major goes to the USMC War Fighting database (or whatever they are calling it nowadays), and calls up a report, circa 1968, about counterinsurgency in the late, lamented Republic of South Vietnam.

Said Major realizes that, by using the global substitution function to replace "Viet Cong" with "Taliban"; "ARVN" with "Afghan Security Forces," etc., he "can save a lot of time."

Reportedly, there was a minor problem with "rice paddies." So he used "wadis" or something. (I didn't ask if there was any issue with "heroin" or "opium." I just assumed there wasn't.)

The bottom line is that We Are Well And Truly Fucked. And the Really Sad Thing is that we didn't learn a Fucking Thing the last time, and we're not going to learn a Fucking Thing this time . . . .

/Snark On

Bad Thing about this war: Fleeing to Sweden apparently is no longer an option.

Oh, well . . . .

Katydid December 15, 2010 at 12:47 pm

The difference is we're not drafting college kids, so no biggie. Of course, the highly wonderful DREAM Act provides that you can go to college or into the military to help you get citizenship, so, fresh poorz meat. Is this a great country or what?

Neilist December 15, 2010 at 1:34 pm

Draft Liberals!

[Spare the niggers, beaners, chinks, and the rest of the wogs for front-line service behind the counter of your local 7/11!]

We Are Well And Truly Fucked.

Angry_Marmot December 15, 2010 at 7:06 pm

Wait, there was a republic in South Vietnam? I must've missed that.

Rotundo_ December 15, 2010 at 7:22 pm

The worst part is, unlike Vietnam, where we only had the historical reference of the French to show us how fucking stupid it was, in Afghanistan nobody save for Ghengis Khan pulled off a successful occupation. England, Russia both had their proverbial asses handed to them, and somehow we were going to be different? The only real strategy left is how best to bomb the fuck-all out of that worthless rock so we can escape with the least loss of life and leaving the fewest viable weapons behind.

Neilist December 15, 2010 at 9:02 pm

Weejee can back me up on this:

What you are talking about, you Communist Liberal Pinko SKUM, was what was known as the "South China Sea Solution" to the "Late Unpleasantness In Southeast Asia."

The solution contained the following steps:

Step 1. Load all of the Vietnamese, North and South, onto ships located in the middle of the South China Sea.

Step 2: Obliterate Vietnam, North and South. I mean, bomb EVERYTHING. Hamlets, cities, dikes, paddies, the works. Completely level the entire place.

Step 3: Sink the ships.

Step 4: Go home, and have a nice, cool beer.

Ah, the Memories.

Good Times. Good Times.

:::Sniff:::

Angry_Marmot December 15, 2010 at 10:58 pm

Ah, yes, the old imperial fantasy of "making a desert and calling it peace."

Neilist December 16, 2010 at 1:47 am

I prefer to make a dessert, and offer the pretty girl a piece.

natoslug December 15, 2010 at 12:44 pm

Just so long as we don't start importing our precious bodily fluids from China, I'm good.

donner_froh December 15, 2010 at 1:07 pm

Kosovo Prime Minister Hashim Thaci has been accused of organ trafficking. Yes. We just thought you’d like to know.

That sounds more than a bit Dracula-ish even though Thaci's coffin full of earth is about 300 miles west of the real Dracula land.

trampndirtdown December 15, 2010 at 9:51 am

Oh god,I don't even open those anymore. its just to depressing too see the drudge headlines and freeper links.

V572625694 December 15, 2010 at 10:06 am

Everybody knows snopes.com is a conspiracy to hide the Real Truth. That's how deceptiveThey are!

ttommyunger December 15, 2010 at 10:13 am

too much trubul.

SorosBot December 15, 2010 at 12:06 pm

That makes me wish I could go back in time to the 70s; if only I could the women then to wear decent clothes and, you know, shave.

ttommyunger December 15, 2010 at 1:45 pm

Dang!

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