HOMEGROWN  2:56 pm November 29, 2010

U.S. Government Now Creating Terrorists So It Can Arrest Them

by Jack Stuef

Have a seat.Mohamed Osman Mohamud, a 19-year-old U.S. citizen, was arrested this weekend for plotting to detonate a bomb at a downtown Portland, Oregon tree-lighting celebration. So that’s good, right? Americans appreciate not getting blown up. But the thing is, Mohamud was never a member of a terrorist group. The FBI provided him a fake bomb and worked with him in the planning of the attack. But that’s not unusual these days, because the government no longer just tries to find and arrest actual terrorists; it also tries to create terrorists it can then arrest. In fact, informants now like to stand in the parking lots of American mosques, offering hundreds of thousands of dollars and fancy cars to anyone who will sign up for jihad. It’s a brave new world for thoughtcrime.

Mohamud was a student at Oregon State, and as far as we can tell from this AP story, was not promised to get rich quickly by becoming a terrorist. He, at least, did have an actual interest in becoming one, because the FBI saw his e-mails to a friend in Pakistan, asking if he knew Osama bin Laden’s AIM handle or whatever. When Mohamud had no luck getting this contact info (WHAT? HIS FRIEND WAS IN PAKISTAN! HE MUST HAVE KNOWN TERRORISTS!), the government swooped in and told him they were hip terrorist guys with a bomb and a terrorist letterman’s-jacket with his name stitched on it.

Oh, why was the FBI reading this Mohamud guy’s e-mails in the first place? It’s never explained in this AP story. But c’mon, the kid’s name is Mohamud. He shouldn’t have let his parents name him that if he didn’t want to be a terrorist. So obviously the answer to this problem was not continued surveillance but rather to entice this kid into dropping out of college to become the ULTIMATE TERRORIST.

It was also very difficult to decipher that this kid is an American citizen, because the AP story was so busy telling us he is a “Somali-born teenager” and PRECIOUS SMALL WHITE CHILDREN were at this Portland Christmas event (at which they were never in danger of exploding).

But here’s an even more fun account in Slate about “four African-American ex-cons from Newburgh, N.Y.” who were enticed into saying they would blow up two synagogues:

Hussain bought meals for the group of four men he assembled because none of them had jobs or money. The owner of a Newburgh restaurant where they occasionally ate considered him “the boss,” because he would pick up the tab. Among his other inducements were the offer of $250,000 and a BMW to the most volubly anti-Semitic plotter, the man the government says was the ringleader, James Cromitie. To drive that car, Cromitie would have needed a driver’s license—which he didn’t have. Another supposed plotter, a Haitian, was a paranoid schizophrenic (according to his imam), which was the reason his deportation had been deferred (according to The Nation’s TomDispatch.com), and who kept bottles of urine in his squalid apartment (according to the New York Times). The last two, both surnamed Williams, have histories of drug busts and minimum-wage jobs in Newburgh. At trial the government asserted that the plot was driven by anti-American hatred. But in papers filed in court by defense lawyers before the trial began, Cromitie is quoted in government transcripts explaining to Hussain that the men “will do it for the money. … They’re not even thinking about the cause.”

One of these guys tried to back out, “saying he didn’t want to hurt any women or children,” but the informant pressured him into staying with the group.

This is just perverse. Perhaps the government will one day figure out how to wind down bureaucracies and bureaucratic divisions once they’re proved no longer necessary. But until then, the FBI will create terrorists for itself to bust because it doesn’t have enough actual, group-aligned terrorists to hunt. And, perhaps, a fake bomb for you to assemble will suddenly arrive on your doorstep one day after you criticize the government or American society. But anti-terrorism efforts have to adjust to the actual threat eventually, right? It’s not like archaic bureaucracies like the Tennessee Valley Authority are still around.

Mohamud was known at the Salman Al-Farisi Center in Corvallis, said Yosof Wanly, imam at the mosque. He said Mohamud was “an average university boy,” drinking the occasional beer with friends in fraternities.

“He had some fraternity friends,” Wanly said. “He would attend athletic (events), basketball games, whatever they are.”

By the way, you know who coaches that basketball team? Known terrorist Barack Obama’s brother-in-law. DUN DUN DUN. [AP/Slate]

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WarAndGee November 29, 2010 at 3:02 pm

First UFO's, then big foot, now they're making terrorists? It's all so confusing.

Well it's going to fuck up the "Bush/Obama Terrorist Attacks on the US" scorecard.

Bush: 0 (9/11 was a Mulligan) Obama: Probably about 18 now.

PublicLuxury November 29, 2010 at 3:03 pm

Was this released in the Wikileaks? It is just like the Federal Bureau of Ignorance to bitch about kids and teaching them how to make the bomb.

Bonzos_Bed_Time November 29, 2010 at 3:03 pm

Obviously false. Nobody drives a car in Portland.

the_onceler November 29, 2010 at 3:13 pm

Bikes not bombs?

Bonzos_Bed_Time November 29, 2010 at 3:18 pm

Fixies preferred, although a Dutch townie has more shrapnel potential.

TheMeatmaker November 29, 2010 at 11:07 pm

Nothing compared to the shrapnel potential of a Dutch oven.

horsedreamer_1 November 29, 2010 at 3:28 pm


ManchuCandidate November 29, 2010 at 3:03 pm

It's the age old US Gubbiment self licking ice cream cone but flavored with stripes of Islamic Fundamentalism, Xenophobia Sprinkles and chunks of Terrowism (sic.)

donner_froh November 29, 2010 at 3:06 pm

Just in time for Christmas–build your own terrorist fake bomb. Fun for the whole family. Call your local FBI office–free shipping and 20 years of hideous torture at Gitmo for every third caller.

fuflans November 29, 2010 at 3:06 pm

hey! I need a job!

freakishlywrong November 29, 2010 at 3:08 pm

It is now time to answer the age old question; "Is our children learning?"

StillGoinGreen November 29, 2010 at 3:22 pm

They was for years but now they isn't sadnessly.

Lucidamente1 November 29, 2010 at 3:09 pm

Makes you kind of long for the days of Abscam.

SayItWithWookies November 29, 2010 at 3:09 pm

11/26 was an inside job!

StillGoinGreen November 29, 2010 at 3:12 pm

Arab Americans who are enticed to blow up Christmas – TERRORISTS!!
poor Black Americans who are enticed to blow up Jews – TERRORISTS!!
White Tea Partiers who scream about taking up arms against our "SOSHILIST" government – PATRIOTS!!

weejee November 29, 2010 at 3:25 pm

And the Oregonian folks who firebombed the Salman Al-Farisi Center in Corvallis after the breathtaking FBI arrest – PATRIOTS!!

StillGoinGreen November 29, 2010 at 3:31 pm

Nope – HEROES!!! The enemy of mine enemy is my HERO!!

Oblios_Cap November 29, 2010 at 3:13 pm

You can take the terrorist out of the Beavers, but you can't take the Beavers out of the terrorist. Or something.

Homegrown Terrorism must be a new OSU academic department.

horsedreamer_1 November 29, 2010 at 3:29 pm

If vaccine denialists are to be believed — & really, why wouldn't they? — then OSU produced history's greatest terrorist: Jonas Salk.

Cure polio, my fat, Rascal-riding ass!

zhubajie December 1, 2010 at 5:45 am

Amen and amen! My mother died in the last big polio epidemic. Now it's nearly extinct world-wide, thanks to the WHO, part of the evil UN. (With help from Rotary Intl., it's true.)

OneDollarJuana November 29, 2010 at 3:30 pm

You can get the terrorist out of the Beavers. Just pour ice water in his crack.

facehead November 29, 2010 at 3:13 pm

COINTELPRO is so old school–Why infiltrate possible terrorist organizations when we can create them and just arrest the people who show up?

mereoblivion November 29, 2010 at 3:13 pm

Mohamed Osman Mohamud, a 19-year-old U.S. citizen, was arrested this weekend for plotting to detonate a bomb at a downtown Portland tree-lighting celebration. So that’s good, right?

I thought you meant, "That's good that somebody wanted to detonate a bomb at a tree-lighting celebration." But hey, Portland! The tree was probly all multiecumenically Kwanzaaized with Judaeo-Arab accessories, so . . . NOT a good thing that the FBI dared him to do that? (I'm like PeeWee's Dottie–I don't understand.)

OhNoGuy November 29, 2010 at 11:22 pm

It's not surprising that you don't understand because you don't make sense, either. Also.

zhubajie December 1, 2010 at 5:46 am

REAL Xtns don't worship trees anyway! Αsk any REAL fundie!

kenlayisalive November 29, 2010 at 3:13 pm

Now they want to call Wikileaks terrorists too.

MSNBC Poll: Should US label wikileaks terrorists?

60% of right wing trolls think so. Vote!

GOPCrusher November 29, 2010 at 4:34 pm

Well, yesterday on Faux Noise Sunday, Liz Cheney stopped short of saying that the United States should invade Iceland for not taking Wikileaks off the internets.

TX_Bluebonnets November 29, 2010 at 10:16 pm

You should check out the voting now. Freedom is winning, by a hair.

kenlayisalive November 29, 2010 at 11:10 pm


ShiftyParadigm November 29, 2010 at 3:15 pm

Just another case of arresting somebody who would have a hard time organizing a two car funeral much less a terrorist attack. This has been another episode of……Security Theater!!!!!!

zhubajie November 30, 2010 at 4:46 am

Unfortunately, it'll probably land him in prison, while more deserving folks enjoy fat pensions in Texas. :-(

Kidneys4Sale November 29, 2010 at 3:15 pm

If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing but closet space for this bomb we made you.

PublicLuxury November 29, 2010 at 3:18 pm

Instead of wasting time 'making' terrorists, why doesn't the Federal Bureau of Ignorance ferret out some right-wing terrorists. The fuckin' midwest and south is filled with right-wing terrorists. They call themselves tea party.

Negropolis November 30, 2010 at 12:37 am

I hear that they call themselves Legion.

BTW, don't forget about the Hutaree up here in Michigan. Just the other day, one of the guys was released so he could spend Thanksgiving with his family, dontcha know.

zhubajie November 30, 2010 at 4:47 am

No glory or promotions in arresting T-tards for being themselves!

zhubajie December 1, 2010 at 5:47 am

Who would they recruit for the Army? I assume the judges are still suggesting people enlist…

SudsMcKenzie November 29, 2010 at 3:18 pm


Kidneys4Sale November 29, 2010 at 3:21 pm


Sassomatic November 29, 2010 at 10:44 pm

That one took me a second. Well played.

Gratuitous World November 29, 2010 at 3:21 pm

though failing in his stated objective, I'm guessing he inspired a couple Portland microbrews to produce a "Christmas Tree Bomber Ale" or "Undisturbed Lighting Ceremony Porter."

TX_Bluebonnets November 29, 2010 at 10:18 pm

And we should be right there, lifting our mugs of "Pioneer Sqare Bomb-Free Pilsner."

I miss the People's Republic of Western Oregon.

slappypaddy November 29, 2010 at 3:22 pm

'the men “will do it for the money. … They’re not even thinking about the cause.”'

the money IS the cause. and that's the same way law enforcement works in this country. it's not about justice and it's not about protecting innocent people (of which there are none remaining over the age of ten). it's about spinning the flywheels on the war against terror and the war against catholic brown people who speak spanish and the war against people who use certain drugs in certain ways and the war against anyone or anything else that the masters of war can dream up to scare the sheeple, all in the name that dare not speak itself–the maximizing of the profits of the enforcers–law enforcement, prisons, organs of so-called justice, and let us not forget that industry for which we all work, whether we know it or not–the defense department.

welcome to the fucking end of the beautiful dream the founding fathers had a quarter of a millennium ago. it had a good run, but its end was not the shining city on the hill, it was this squalid swamp of dystopia from which arise the spectres of our waking nightmares.

BaldarTFlagass November 29, 2010 at 3:25 pm

Well said.
Jack, you can close the comments on this one now.

StillGoinGreen November 29, 2010 at 3:29 pm

The only thing shining will be the fires from our woks while we prepare authentic Sichuan cuisine for our Overlords – MING CHOW MUFUCKAS!!

zhubajie November 30, 2010 at 4:49 am

The T-tards couldn't handle real Sichuan food. As the proverb goes, "Sichuan folks are not afraid of spice!"

zhubajie November 30, 2010 at 4:51 am

Believe me, my sweet lovable students here in China are not your overlords. You are the captains of your own fates, the masters of your own souls. In other words, IT'S YOUR FAULT!

StillGoinGreen November 30, 2010 at 10:13 am

I certainly do not blame the Chinese for anything – Do you think Russia blames us for getting a good deal on Alaska? Hell no – it became an infinitely better deal for the Ruskies after Walnuts released the Cracken!! It'll be the same for the Chinese – when they get a whiff of these teatards, they will sell everything back to us at pennies on the dollar – I call that a win/win!!!1!!1!

zhubajie December 1, 2010 at 5:51 am

200 years ago, when the US was just independant, China was the most powerful country in the world, and one of the first to treat the US as equal to the older western countries.

Read Qianlong's letter to George III sometime, explaining why he didn't want diplomatic or commercial relations. It's a pretty amazing example of polite arrogance!

StillGoinGreen December 2, 2010 at 10:18 am

It is my personal belief that most people do not realize that China has ALWAYS been one of the most powerful countries, if not the most powerful country in the world. It is only with the internet and other 24 hour news outlets that these things have become easier to understand. China has a large section of their population that lives below the 3rd world threshold – but their government and emperial class have always been on par with any other country – that is why the phrase (paraphrased) speaking about the fear of "angering a billion yellow soldiers" was spoke of long before my birth (and that was a long time ago!).

problemwithcaring November 29, 2010 at 5:29 pm

Don't forget lawyers and judges – it's not just the wingnuts who make coin off the Fear Machine.

Then again, the prison industrial complex is as ubiquitous as Made in China. Those locked-up American keep wages stagnated and unemployment low.

zhubajie November 30, 2010 at 4:48 am

Don't forget sadism! Some of our masters in the USA enjoy tormenting the rest of us!

BaldarTFlagass November 29, 2010 at 3:22 pm

I, for one, am scared shitless of these frightening Muslim terrorists. Because I am supposed to be, right? Freedom!

THESE lazy bastards don't deserve a pay freeze, they need a pay cut. Or a new work schedule (every day off).

zhubajie December 1, 2010 at 5:52 am

I have Muslim students in all my classes and nothing bad has happened to me yet. Muslim Chinese food is interesting, too.

donner_froh November 29, 2010 at 3:25 pm

Terrorists! Get yours today. Collect them and trade them with your friends.

Call 18005551212 for your starter kit right away.

Monsieur_Grumpe November 29, 2010 at 3:25 pm

I imagine the sting went something like this…

Undercover FBI “Hey kid! How would you like to blow up a Christmas tree?
Kid “ Boy would I!”
UF “We’ll give you everything you need. Just push the button.”
Kid “I’ll have to ask my mom first.”
UF “ Awww come on kid, what are you some kind of sissy momma’s boy?”
Kid “ I ain’t no sissy! Gimmi the button!”
UF “ Kid, you’re gonna be a martyr.”
Kid “What’s a martyr?”

zhubajie November 30, 2010 at 4:53 am

How big was the bomb? M80 size? Could he claim it was a fireworks promotion?

Terry November 29, 2010 at 3:28 pm

Has Jack been reading reason.com again?

zhubajie December 1, 2010 at 5:53 am

Boy, that title's false advertizing!

Terry December 1, 2010 at 8:43 am

True. Ranty boys parroting the GOP line, thinking that they aren't, basically. They claim to be intellectuals, can't find a woman smart enough for them, but challenge a point and they tend to fall back to calling you a classist/statist/etc.

The basic truth is that they are wanking to their libertarian fantasies while living in and reaping the benefits of communities and a culture created by OUR values, not theirs. Their dream city would look more like Mogadishu and they'd cry like babies if they got it.

zhubajie December 2, 2010 at 4:43 am

Libertarians always take the current level of public health for granted. Polio, for example, didn't just die out because of a rare conjunction of the planets or the increasing numbers of faith-healers. It was wiped out early '60s by a series of mass vaccination campaigns. Malaria and Yellow Fever used to be big in the South. Now they are not, because of federal anti-mosquito campaigns in the '30s. Those wonderful good old days diseases could make a real come-back, if the libtards stop public health measures.

Terry December 2, 2010 at 8:13 am

Of course, those are terrible intrusions of government into people's lives. If the people want vaccinations, they can buy them themselves.

(pretty close to a Libtard rant?)

bumfug November 29, 2010 at 3:30 pm

"It goes in the van? Wow, thanks, that's lots better than in my underpants!"

prommie November 29, 2010 at 3:31 pm

Oh, the story of the W administration's star "tare-ist" prosecution involved a man with known Arab ethnicity who was approached by one FBI agent who said "hey, you know anybody who wants to buy a stinger missile? I have stinger missiles for sale." He was then approached by another FBI agent who said, "Hey, you know where I could get my hands on a stinger missile? I need one bad, to do evil things with, and I will pay top dollar." The dude bought from one FBI agent and sold to another. Justice, its a wonderful thing.

horsedreamer_1 November 29, 2010 at 3:32 pm

Terrorist? Muslim? Oregonian?

Obviously, he's trying to kick it old school — like an hipster should — & bring back the Hashshashin.

OneDollarJuana November 29, 2010 at 3:34 pm

The Bush administration did this a bunch. This looks so much like what they did it makes me think that we haven't had ANY change we can use in the FBI.

assistantatlas November 29, 2010 at 3:37 pm

Ah, neocon logic: Creating terrorists at home so we don't have to create them overseas (although we're doing that anyway, also, too!).

zhubajie December 2, 2010 at 4:45 am

Well, busting a terrorist probably looks better on the fitness report than other things. Might help get a promotion.

WhatTheHeck November 29, 2010 at 3:39 pm

If Mohamed won’t come to the FBI, then the FBI will come to Mohamed.

DashboardBuddha November 29, 2010 at 3:50 pm

I believe this wins the afternoon.

Chet Kincaid November 29, 2010 at 3:41 pm

Business is booming, ha-ha, in the fake bomb industry! Does the FBI order from Larry Copello's sweet old Grandma in Sonora? http://wonkette.com/430689/germany-terrorist-dry-

Rarian Rakista November 29, 2010 at 3:43 pm

The FBI is using this to force Portland's mayor to join the anti-terrorism task force. We opted out because we believe in civil rights, now we are going to have 100k a a year goons running around arresting more teenagers.

MistaEko November 29, 2010 at 3:48 pm

Hooray Third World America!

Other countries make the jobs that make the things!
We make the disillusioned males who want the things to 'splode!

zhubajie December 1, 2010 at 5:54 am

"Welcome to the Third World! It's the Best World of All!"

HistoriCat December 2, 2010 at 10:04 am

I'm holding out for Fourth World.

kenlayisalive November 29, 2010 at 3:49 pm

You go that right. But Terrorist is worse because it means something legally. Like a one-way ticket to Guantanamo Bay.

Makes you scared to donate even $10 to them. "Material Support" and all that.

Ameri-jerks think that this is such a total travesty, after killing 100,000 people invading Iraq? What happened to the peanut gallery at the watergate hearings cheering and laughing at the bad guys? What happened to the people eager to read the Pentagon papers, thankful to know what was going on behind closed doors?

Who are we? Maybe we are a bunch of stupid sheeple.

iburl November 29, 2010 at 3:55 pm

It seems like converting youthful anger into jihadism is Osama's job. Wouldn't it have made more economic sense to buy this kid a PS3 and a 4 diamond whore? It's hard to hate America when you're getting a pro BJ and playing Call of Duty.

Rarian Rakista November 29, 2010 at 5:59 pm

BJs are like eggs it takes a pro to mess one up, not the other way around.

iburl November 29, 2010 at 7:46 pm

I'll have to take your word for it, but I assume that a pro wouldn't actually "blow" into the urethra as an young girlfriend of mine did in my youth.

zhubajie November 30, 2010 at 5:07 am

Or enlist him in the Marines.

SorosBot November 29, 2010 at 3:59 pm

It is good to see the spirit of J. Edgar is still alive and well at the modern FBI. Hey, you know what the problem with the Iraq war protests earlier this decade was? They were too peaceful; they need to bring back the infiltrators who pretend to join the anti-war groups then stir up violence at peaceful protests.

chascates November 29, 2010 at 4:02 pm

In the same spirit we subsidize corn prices so people will become obese, so we can deny them medical care.

simplyblue7 November 29, 2010 at 4:11 pm

Obviously you don't plan things in a chatroom…those things are crawling with government agents or porn bots.

zhubajie November 30, 2010 at 5:08 am

Don't organize anything subversive with any electronic communications. Bin Laden sends out written messages via couriers — women in Western garb. So Asia Times Online.

V572625694 November 29, 2010 at 4:15 pm

The Defense Commissary Agency, providing socialist grocery stores for domestic military installations which have regular, capitalist grocery stores right outside their main gates, rejects your un-American suggestion that any government agencies are useless make-work dinosaurs intended to generate jobs in the home districts of high-seniority congress-critters.

Pop_Socket November 29, 2010 at 4:21 pm

The US military with paid housing, spouse and child allowances, free single-payer medical and subsidized entertainment is the most ideal form of socialism ever instituted.

CZL November 29, 2010 at 4:30 pm

Why do you hate America? Buy an Escalade like Sarah Palin commands!

Bonzos_Bed_Time November 29, 2010 at 5:21 pm

Interesting although non-surprising observation: While in the greater Scottsdale area over our Savior's birthday (Thanksgiving), a saw an Escalade nearly every block. Coincidence that it is the epicenter of the real-estate implosion?

Rarian Rakista November 29, 2010 at 5:56 pm

Scottsdale is one of the only places in the country you can see fat rich people outside of the southern states. It should be made into a nature reserve.

Bonzos_Bed_Time November 29, 2010 at 6:35 pm

It was amazing as I see at most maybe one a week in SoCal, a place not known for it's lack of blingification.
God bless Arizona.

deanbooth November 29, 2010 at 4:40 pm

Also, this kid was offered a job in Alaska but couldn't get there because the FBI had put him on the no-fly list.

notreelyhelping November 29, 2010 at 5:08 pm

I love that the FBI kept a parking place open for him at one of the stone busiest downtown days of the year; I'm trying to imagine all the irate drivers they had to shoo away with "sorry, terroist parking only." And the kid's probably thinking, "Wow, I got this parking place. Allah be praised!"

lochnessmonster November 29, 2010 at 5:32 pm

Entrapment…one way to make sure to keep your job…

Rarian Rakista November 29, 2010 at 6:01 pm

Quick, name an actual terrorist the FBI arrested before the actual terrorism. If you got all white Christian militia members you win a beer.

zhubajie November 30, 2010 at 5:10 am

I remember reading about some White Texans arrested making poison gas….

NadePaulKuciGravMcKi November 29, 2010 at 6:39 pm

very fine
Jack Stuef
eyes wide open

SmutBoffin November 29, 2010 at 6:41 pm

Uh, 'Single-speed' != 'Fixie'.

Plowmon November 29, 2010 at 6:49 pm

They just forgot to give the 9/11 hijackers box cutters with rubber blades…

Ducandy November 29, 2010 at 8:53 pm

With all this bait and switch bullshit, was Woolworth's morphed into the FBI?

Mrspanky November 29, 2010 at 10:20 pm

Let me get this straight.

If I organize a militia of white boys for the Tea Party. I can train them in the Ocala National Forest without FBI harassment, so long as my militia has no coloreds or foreign-borns?

God bless America!

Sassomatic November 29, 2010 at 10:40 pm

Me! Me! I will totally send emails criticizing the military and put a fake bomb wherever the FBI tells me for a $50 gift card to Chili's. I'm hungry damn it.

OhNoGuy November 29, 2010 at 11:30 pm

"What was wrong with the old burg?"

Waaaay too much sherry in it and the lobster was over cooked.

OhNoGuy November 29, 2010 at 11:34 pm

Now this is truly the win of the day (until I read further down the page).

zhubajie November 30, 2010 at 5:11 am

Or Homeland Security arrests FBI men staking out some CIA drug wholesalers….

ttommyunger November 30, 2010 at 10:26 am

Got to be confusing for them unless you have a scorecard and a program.

zhubajie December 1, 2010 at 5:42 am

G-d bless police incompetence, corruption and rivalries between cop shops!

ttommyunger December 1, 2010 at 10:57 am

You speak the truth, I would be in the slammer now without that toxic cocktail working on my behalf.

DangerHelvetica November 30, 2010 at 10:49 am

Under the spreading chestnut tree/
I sold you and you sold me

zhubajie December 1, 2010 at 5:56 am

Why doesn't someone have this kid infiltrate the Somali pirates?

HistoriCat December 2, 2010 at 10:08 am

Peter Sellers would make a great movie out of that.

ttommyunger December 2, 2010 at 12:19 pm

His alter-ego runs the Anti-Terrorism Section at the FBI if you ask me.

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