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November 22, 2010

U.S. Gave Bunch of Money To Some Guy Pretending To Be Taliban Leader

by Jack Stuef  

Must have been fun, for that guy.If Afghans had electricity, televisions, or video cameras that were not trained on people exploding in piles of rocks, they would now also have their own Punk’d. According to “a Western diplomat,” some random guy let the America and its coalition friends know that he was Mullah Akhtar Muhammad Mansour, a very important Taliban leader. This man had many important negotiations with the people currently in charge of waging constant war in that country, and was given lots of money for agreeing to talk. So things were going smoothly! But then somebody who had actually seen Mansour before showed up to one of these meetings and told officials that the guy they thought was Mansour looks nothing like the real Mansour. Whoops!

The Western diplomat said the Afghan man was initially given a sizable sum of money to take part in the talks — and to help persuade him to return.

While the Afghan official said he still harbored hopes that the man would return for another round of talks, American and other Western officials said they had concluded that the man in question was not Mr. Mansour. Just how the Americans reached such a definitive conclusion — whether, for instance, they were able to positively establish his identity through fingerprints or some other means — is unknown.

As recently as last month, American and Afghan officials held high hopes for the talks. Senior American officials, including Gen. David H. Petraeus, said the talks indicated that Taliban leaders, whose rank-and-file fighters are under extraordinary pressure from the American-led offensive, were at least willing to discuss an end to the war.

So let us get this straight: It is a sign of strength that America will throw piles of money at any old crazy person on the street who says he’s a Taliban leader willing to talk peace. It is because America is putting extraordinary pressure on the Taliban with our huge missiles that our nation is so desperate to work out a peaceful compromise with the former leadership of Afghanistan, whom we promised to annihilate.

Look, if Afghanistan is just going to slowly fall in the hands of an amalgamation of Taliban and other varied strongmen, as it seems to be doing, why not just sign off on it right now? The U.S. is powerless to stop Karzai’s corruption. Baby Republican and Baby Democrat franchises do not seem to be popping up in the country. At some point we will talk ourselves into just letting this happen. So let’s just drop in Ashton Kutcher to lead the thing, then cut and run out of there and leave the Afghan warlords to take care of him. Two birds with one stone: That annoying dumb guy is dead, and we have someone on which to lay blame for this ridiculously long and increasingly pointless war.

And guess what? The Taliban probably won’t try to support anti-American terrorists anymore, because they saw the headache that brought them the last time. And wasn’t that our objective in the first place? [NYT]

{ 58 comments }

smrtmnky November 23, 2010 at 12:00 am

From now on the US needs to verify all Taliban officials like Twitter does

Sparky_McGruff November 23, 2010 at 8:20 am

In our defense, all those muslins kinda look the same, and nobody understands that jibber-jabber they speak, anyways. I blame the gays.

obfuscator2 November 23, 2010 at 12:10 am

finkle is einhorn.

SteveMcCroskey November 23, 2010 at 12:13 am

I am Spartacus Mullah Akhtar Muhammad Mansour!

WunkRocker November 23, 2010 at 7:54 am

So pay up, yankee pig dogs.

EdFlintstone November 23, 2010 at 12:18 am

Somebody should get the George Tenet Medal of Freedom for this solid work.

Lucidamente1 November 23, 2010 at 12:19 am

It's time to put Jeff Redfern on the case.

Buzz Feedback November 23, 2010 at 12:21 am

Feds also reportedly in reparations talks w/Chief Jay Strongbow and the Junkyard Dog.

mavenmaven November 23, 2010 at 12:21 am

Next thing you know he'll be on youtube claiming to be the head of the Tea Party.

Rarian Rakista November 23, 2010 at 4:53 am

I have no doubt in my mind that the same phenotype that creates teapartiers if born in Afghanistan would become a terrorist.

bumfug November 23, 2010 at 12:24 am

Hey, I'm Osama bin Laden!! How much you gonna give ME?

nounverb911 November 23, 2010 at 12:56 am

You get a copy of "Decision Points".

Negropolis November 23, 2010 at 12:31 am

But, but I was told that Afghanistan was "The Right War." Honestly, I was sick to my stomach that in order to get the government to get out of Iraq, Dems had to keep up the charade that is Afghanistan so Democrats wouldn't be labeled bigger pussies than they already are.

Afghans are so smart.

horsedreamer_1 November 23, 2010 at 12:36 am

"Mansour's" cover story has more holes than an Afghan.

donner_froh November 23, 2010 at 12:37 am

Why so negative, Jack? Just because Afghanistan is a lawless mountain wilderness ruled by clan-based military leaders with no accountability to the central government and has been for the past millennium you think they aren't ready for capitalist democracy?

That Afghanistan has been at the top of the charts of the "failed states" list is no reason to think won't be ready for all the trappings of western civil society in the next couple of years.

David Patraeus, the master of counterinsurgency, says everything is on schedule. Victory is just around the corner.

Radiotherapy November 23, 2010 at 2:54 am

If by "corner" you mean the next millennia. Yep, right on schedule.

HistoriCat November 23, 2010 at 9:38 am

Well, it depends on how many weddings we manage to blow up. If you get enough of them, we should have the region cleared of people within a generation.

GOPCrusher November 23, 2010 at 1:01 pm

This is great news for Alexander The Great.

SexySmurf November 23, 2010 at 12:40 am

In related news General Petraeus just bought some penis enlarging pills and wired $1000 to a Nigerian prince.

emmelemm November 23, 2010 at 3:00 am

A million p-points to you.

kenlayisalive November 23, 2010 at 12:41 am

Random Afghan liar = Taliban big wig. Joyful wedding party = Terrorist training camp.

Yeah, we're really getting good at this. $700 billion dollars a year good at this.

aisai November 23, 2010 at 12:46 am

Why am I reminded of the end of the life of Brian? Is General Petreus going to remind us to always look on the bright side of life?

DahBoner November 23, 2010 at 1:13 pm

That's why our forces aren't very effective in Afghanistan.

They can hear us whistling a mile away and quickly scatter!

V572625694 November 23, 2010 at 12:48 am

It's important for us to stay in Afghanistan, because we need our bases there as a platform from which to launch the forthcoming war in/with Pakistan. Isn't this obvious to everyone?

Lots of people in Afghanistan have never been out of the valleys they grew up in, and are illiterate, and are devout Muslims, and are opium farmers, and believe they have an absolute right to treat "their" women the way no better than they treat their sheep.

For some reason, the benefits of liberal democracy are not immediately apparent to these individuals, even though we thoughtfully concluded their weddings before the boring receptions got going.

WunkRocker November 23, 2010 at 7:56 am

And Iran, how else we gonna bom b bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran? Hennnnnngh?!

HistoriCat November 23, 2010 at 9:39 am

I thought that's why we had Iraq.

sati_demise November 23, 2010 at 2:43 pm

We did a DAMN good job of reviving the opium growers businesses.
Damn good, the CIA is always so efficient.

donner_froh November 23, 2010 at 1:00 am

Baby Republican and Baby Democrat franchises do not seem to be popping up in the country.

Outlet malls based on religio-political coercion backed with armed violence are doing quite well though.

SayItWithWookies November 23, 2010 at 1:25 am

The other day upon the stair
I met a man who wasn't there;
So I negotiated with him to end the Afghanistan war —
Hell, it's as good a shot as any.

lulzmonger November 23, 2010 at 1:34 am

Unlike 2005's "Here's Some Money, Stop Blowing Shit Up" in Iraq, 2010's new "Give Money To Some Guy 2.0" is a shocking failure!

DoktorZoom November 23, 2010 at 2:15 am

No doubt we'll learn that this was the Afghani version of James O'Keefe.

thecryingeagle November 23, 2010 at 2:20 am

I was in an Afghan simulation in an international affairs class and within 15 minutes all of the parties agreed that the best solution was to shoot Karzai. These poor people are just fucked.

chascates November 23, 2010 at 2:44 am

The easiest way out of this would be to declare China the world's remaining super power and let them takeover our role in the Middle East. Of course the 'tards believe Jesus died so America could rule the universe but when that nitwit screeches "Do you luv yur freedumbs?" we could reply 'Yes, and they start and end at our borders.'

We prop up a bipolar loon with thieving relatives to try to force a democracy on a collection of tribes that no one in history has ever conquered. And everyone who is a member of Congress should spend at least 4 weeks there, 'fact-finding' on the front lines.

Damn, that might solve a lot of problems!

Radiotherapy November 23, 2010 at 3:02 am

Maybe the Russians should have tried this trick….No, even they weren't that stupid.

GTFO

charlesdegoal November 23, 2010 at 4:14 am

"At that time, Abdul Ghani Baradar, then the deputy commander of the Taliban, was arrested in a joint C.I.A.-ISI raid in the Pakistani port city of Karachi. Although officials from both countries hailed the arrest as a hallmark of American-Pakistani cooperation, Pakistani officials have since indicated that they orchestrated Mr. Baradar’s arrest because he was engaging in peace discussions without the ISI’s permission."

We're supposed to have killed or arrested so many second or third in command that the only ones left to arrest, kill or talk to are the fake ones.

Jukesgrrl November 23, 2010 at 5:17 am

Arrest, kill, or set up Swiss bank accounts for.

barkingspiders November 23, 2010 at 4:21 am

The Red Devil strikes again!

transfatz November 23, 2010 at 5:14 am

Wait, the guy faked his identity, took sacks of cash and "the Afghan official said he still harbored hopes that the man would return for another round of talks"?
Wall street? Is that you?

Jukesgrrl November 23, 2010 at 5:15 am

They're not ready for democracy, but perhaps they're ready for Dr. 90210.

DCHatesMe November 23, 2010 at 6:25 am

The CYA thing to do would be to continue doing business with the imposter, making everyone believe he's the real deal. The real Mansour would be put on the defensive and would cooperate just to get his identity back.

Mort_Sinclair November 23, 2010 at 6:42 am

Apropos of nothing, I wish someone would give me a baby's arm holding an apple.

jim89048 November 23, 2010 at 1:12 pm

That's what I want from life, too.

chowkster November 23, 2010 at 7:30 am

This whole thing was predicted in a Bollywood comdedy called Tere Bin Laden

CapeClod November 23, 2010 at 7:35 am

That picture is from the movie version of "Kim", isn't it?

Pragmatist2 November 23, 2010 at 7:57 am

Is it possible that the guy we knew as George W.Bush was just some Muslim pretending to be America's leader? Think about it.

slappypaddy November 23, 2010 at 8:29 am

just so long as they paid him in dollars, i don't see what the problem is.

Krugmanic Depressive November 23, 2010 at 8:32 am

Well, no one will care, but I for one would miss aplusk. The heart wants what it wants, what can I say?

Barrelhse November 23, 2010 at 8:35 am

It was Rich Little.

BaldarTFlagass November 23, 2010 at 8:51 am

Pfft. Given the shape of the Afghan economy, we probably gave the guy a couple hundred bucks, a new car battery and a couple of Massoud posters to slap on the windshield of his 4-Runner. A mere bagatelle.

Mindblank November 23, 2010 at 9:00 am

A brick thrown at random in Afghanistan will hit a Taliban leader.

BaldarTFlagass November 23, 2010 at 9:07 am

As will a Hellfire missile launched from a Predator drone.

Mindblank November 23, 2010 at 9:38 am

Well, they might be getting married, but they're still Taliban leaders in potentia.

HistoriCat November 23, 2010 at 9:46 am

I thought we were saving all of those for the weddings.

HistoriCat November 23, 2010 at 9:47 am

Ashton Kutcher is ready for this role. I wholeheartedly support sending him to Afghanistan. But he will need a crack political team to help – send James O'Keefe too.

NadePaulKuciGravMcKi November 23, 2010 at 12:56 pm

all 47 floors; bldg 7 takes a fall

sati_demise November 23, 2010 at 2:44 pm

This must be a Chalmers Johnson Memorial post!
amirite?

Beowoof November 23, 2010 at 6:57 pm

The continuing problem seems to be with intelligence gathering. Makes one think a CIA intelligence force recruited from Texas, Mississippi, Georgia, Alabama etc. isn't going to work out too well in the long run.

AddHomonym November 23, 2010 at 8:39 pm

So it turns out, with American history, it happens the first time as farce also.

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