The U.S. Supreme Court is and will continue to be very important in deciding cases that will determine the future of the technology and the Internet, i.e., the future itself. But 72-year-old Justice Stephen Breyer readily admits that he and his colleagues have no idea how this “Digital Surfing Board” works or why people use it. “‘If I’m applying the First Amendment, I have to apply it to a world where there’s an Internet, and there’s Facebook, and there are movies like … The Social Network, which I couldn’t even understand,’ he said.” So the Internet is like a picture box that earns Harvard students lots of money? Does it grant wishes with genie magic? Do you plug your brain into it so it knows what kind of pornography you like? These are the kinds of questions Supreme Court justices are asking each other about this odd thing they could suddenly make illegal if they wanted to.
Although Breyer was making a point about judicial philosophy, he also touched on the court’s sometimes limited grasp of technological developments. For example, Chief Justice John Roberts in a public employee privacy case before the court earlier this year tried to figure out the role of a text-messaging service in enabling an exchange between two people.
“I thought, you know, you push a button; it goes right to the other thing,” Roberts said. Responded Justice Antonin Scalia: “You mean it doesn’t go right to the other thing?”
Yes, it could be slightly helpful for the most powerful judges in the land to understand how a basic text message works, before we destroy the innocence of these ingenues with the revelation that teenagers are constantly making child pornography of themselves and sending it to people via this very service. Yes, someday we will have to try to explain to them that one can also send moving pictures to “the other thing.” And that day will be frustrating.
Recently, Anthony Kennedy wondered aloud why teevee “v-chips,” those beeper-era devices in cable boxes that allow parents to block programming based on its age rating, do not block violent video games on teevees:
“V-chips won’t work?” Kennedy asked, before the lawyer politely explained they are limited to television programming.
Well, it’s nice that the Supreme Court is at least aware that they have no idea what they’re doing when they rule on technology cases. And really, what should we expect? These are nine people who are afraid to let television cameras into their hearings because the devices would steal their souls. [WP]







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I'm impressed that Anthony Kennedy knew that there were such things as video games.
And it's nice to see that they are all smart enough to know what they are dumb about.
OBJECTION!!!
// waits for extemporanus…
I'm guessin' Uncle Clarence Thomas could show the rest of 'em how to download porn on his iPhone in about 30 seconds (what else do ya think the moron does while sitting mutely on the SCOTUS for all those years, a brotha's gotta be a playa!)
If Scalia can't get to it with a shotgun, it's not worth getting to.
But he show his huge hooters on the thing to other justices as long as it doesn't go directly to the other thing.
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Your mom is indeed hotter than my mom.
Oh that is so gay.
Or he can just call up his first born son and have him come over for the 439th time and explain again why you only need to push the archive button on gmail and not the delete button.
Rrrrrrring…. oh, that's my phone, gotta' go.
Every Supreme Court Justice knows you just tell the boy down to the Western Union you never got that there telly-gram.
There's a simple solution, just tell Clarence Thomas the Internet is 90% porn and he'll be 90% proficient before you can say "Who put this pubic hair in my coke can."
I bet he would really like the black guys doing fat ugly white chicks porn.
Yeah, right, that would be so UNUSUAL a sight for him.
Well telling him that wouldn't really be a lie, would it?
Nope. Technically, it's a faptual statement.
When this Supreme Court makes porn illegal, there will only be one website left on the internet.
BringBackthePorn.com
I bet Clarence Thomas knows how to take pics of his junk to send to the ladies.
Ssssh! Don't tell Ginni!
Man, that would be a shitload of expected apologies.
Sure he does. He takes his 110 instamatic, attaches the cube flash, takes a few shots of his terrible junk, drops the film off at the Fotomat kiosk in the K-Mart parking lot, waits a few days, picks up the prints, and mails them–in an envelope–to the various old-age homes/insane asylums/rehab centers/underpasses where his ladies live.
"His Terrible Junk" will be the title of my next country music hit.
His terrrible junk,
smells like he banged a skunk,
which put Ginni in a funk
and she called Clarence a punk
so Clarence got drunk
on vodka mixed with crunk
he jerked off and shot his spunk
that Ginni cleaned off her dress with Gunk
That is generally my view of most Country Music.
Krikey, every one of my comments today has centered around "junk." And then I opened a print copy of The Onion this morning only to see a picture purporting to be Pope Benedict's old and weary junk. One of those days, I guess…
It's junk day! And for shame–me not putting anything out at the curb. Oh well, there's always next month.
Wait-what?
Don't miss Tyler Perry's "Don't Tell Ginni!", Wednesdays on TBS!
Very Funny.
Are you kidding? That's probably how he won her heart.
Do you plug your brain into it so it knows what kind of pornography you like?
That's the first question Clarence Thomas has asked in five years.
that's five LOOONG years!
Where's Ted Stevens when you need him?
Hopefully in his crypt with the oak stake firmly in place in his heart.
Actually, he was killed by a tube.
Stop right there, Scalia! Do you really want Ruth Bader Ginsburg sexting you??
Who doesn't want that?
Sotomayor for one, but only because Ginsburg keeps asking her for some lusty Latina lesbian action.
http://wonkette.com/411950/a-childrens-treasury-o...
10/31/09 !!! NEVAR FORGET. Sexy Ruth Bader Ginsberg can sext me anytime.
then tell them to fucking telegraph their local internet providers and start wasting time like rest of us. Book readin' ain't gone help ya this time. nerds.
It's simple, Supremes; the internet is not a truck, it's a series of tubes.
I thought the Supremes broke up?
Jesus Christ. What are these sad fucks going to do the first time they see the Wii in the old folks home?
There's already lots of wii on the floor of the old folks' home. Don't slip!
"You put the thing here into the other thing, and BOOM! That's a heck of a thing."
–Chief Justice John Madden
Why is Newman showing SCOTUS how to work the intertube?
Get your toes wet, Justices — why, this internet thing is the bees' knees. It's hotter than a cow pissing on a flat rock. It'll curl your nose hairs, it will — it's more fun than a rumble seat!
23-skidoo!
Now you're on the trolley!
It's better than heavy petting!
Damn skippy!
It's hipper than swallowing goldfish!
Or seeing how many people you can cram in a phone booth.
Kidding! There are no more phone booths.
That's okay cram them into a VW BUG
From the replies, I suddenly realize that I am not the only olds here. <<Smiles>>
Fogey-speak!
V-chips could stop violence, but that would be unamerican. Boobs are evil, violence is good: thus spake the United States Supreme Court.
Boobs are evil, as is saying fuck or shit. But any level of violence is just fine.
If boobs are wrong, then I don't want to be right. I want some boobs in my face right now is what I'm saying.
Hey, what are all you kids doing on my computer? Get outta here! Why I oughta…
Hey, you kids, get off my LAN!
Considering what stories we've had so far, it appears to be official old folks' day at Wonkette.
Can you please shout that into my ear trumpet?
I'm betting the only Justice who knows anything about the intertubes is Coke Can.
Is it the dog p0rn that brought him to hell's gate?
What souls?
Typo – s/b soles.
Wow- and I thought my 77 year old mother calling me up to ask how to turn off her iPad was ridiculous. And she's all "I'm so pissed it doesn't have a camera how am I gonna Skype my granddaughter in Japan" and she can't even turn the fucking thing off without picking up her cell phone. Christ.
Be grateful – at least she's not picking up a land line.
Ex-Justice Breyer, welcome to the 20th century.
I for one can't wait until Scalia gets on Facebook and receives his first Friend Request rejection.
Someone should tell him that "Friend" is really "Friend with Benefits". That should produce many rejections.
Do you think he'll seek 2nd Amendment remedies?
“I thought, you know, you push a button; it goes right to the other thing,” Roberts said. Responded Justice Antonin Scalia: “You mean it doesn’t go right to the other thing?”
It's not just the limited grasp of technology we should be worried about; it's the whole cause and effect thing. God forbid a single decision have far reaching and unpleasant consequences for, oh, let's say the electoral process?
Wonder if they'll ever find out that the real problem is: the message doesn't always stop at the other thing. Sometimes it goes viral and the whole world finds out that you got prank-called by someone pretending to be Nicholas Sarkozy.
Do you plug your brain into it so it knows what kind of pornography you like?
Oh, god, if only…. The person who invents that will be rich beyond Zuckerbergian imagination.
Notice how all the technologically clueless Supremes were the guys? The ladies were probably all looking at each other, rolling their eyes and trying to suppress laughter.
"Yes, I swear to god, Scalia asked where the antenna goes"
It's just like my dad–his secretary has to open his email, PRINT IT OUT so he can read it, and turn his handwritten reply into a computer letter thingy.
My mother doesn't seem to understand the difference between faxing and emailing. Than again, she doesn't have cable tv…
My mother bought a file cabinet to put next to her computer desk. She prints her e-mails and then puts them in the appropriate file folder.
* facepalm *
Wonkette's mommas are SO dumb, they figured someone must pay us to type things here all day!
Someone pays me while I type things here all day. Does that count?
I'm sure that if they have to decide on laws that govern all modern communication, they need only be told which ones will help the Republicans and large corporations to reach a decision.
This is why it makes so much sense to keep appointing judges to the Court. And Catholics.
They seem to have the same level of technological knowledge as your average New Guinea cargo cult.
All hail the other thingie!
My people worship the button, not the thingie!!! Now we must WAR!!!!
Moving pictures? Sounds like witchcraft! Burn them at the stake!
As long as the Judiciary here are aware that the Beatles were a modern pop-beat combo, your guys are way ahead of the great be-wigged of Blighty.
I seem to recall their off-key caterwauling on the old Sullivan show.
"What is a 'groupie'?" – Old Bailey judge to Frank Zappa, 1975
And how will these technologically impaired Supremes handle litigation around someone like Moxie Marlinspike getting a whole lot more than a full screening and junk fisting every time he hops on a plane in 'Murica.
"But when I say words into this soup can they go straight through the string to the other soup can. Why won't messages do that?"
Justice Breyer continued, "Mostly, all we know is that whenever Justice Thomas goes to use the Internet, he comes out a few minutes later all sweaty and out of breath."
How in the heck do these people know if Willow Palin has had her period? Answer me that.
Which is critical, as Justice Roberts bases all of his decisions on wether or not she has had her meses yet that month.
meses
Menses or messes?
The Supremes know everything man. They're infallible, like the Pope only they let some women into the club…kinda
The ask the National Enquirer
There's an app for that.
"We must apply Mr. Alexander Graham Bell's Original Intent. Thus, 'Watson, come here, I want you' authorizes online-only gay marriages."
"Watson, come here. Would you think it's weird if I play a female character in WoW?"
Favorite SCOTUS Video Games:
Grand Theft Election 2000
Sim City: Eminent Domain
Bioshock: Original Intent
Half-Life 2: Third Trimester
Alien v. Predator: Appellate Edition
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republicans
Katamari Damacy (No judicial joke; Ginsberg just loves the dickens out of that little Prince guy)
This is truly P-worthy
This news is made out of GOLD, Jerry! GOLD!
I have saved this page for future lulz.
At least Ruth Bader Ginsberg knows how to use a vibrator.
This isn't the same Supreme Court Denny Crane practiced in front of. No wonder Boston Legal was cancelled.
And I thought he was shoving quarters up Clarence's ass in exchange for services.
He doesn't have to with Clarance. He does such a good job on that "table" that he always wins a replay.
The Founding Fathers didn't have cell phones. Cell phones are OBVIOUSLY unconstitutional since it is not in the very first draft evah of the constitution. These heathen unpatriotic machines need to be removed. They are now illegal, so sayeth Jebus and SCOTUS. Amen.
Ink and quill pens or GTFO!!!!1!
I would watch calling these guys retards. Because they are retards and you're in Washington where they live and have an outside chance to find you and go all retard strong on your ass.
Or join together and form Scotustron.
He still sends them out via snail mail.
An unusually apt term, in this case.
OK, I know I'm inviting disaster here, but…
1.) It's sounding like we're getting to the point where the judges ruling on First Amendment issues need to have a degree in IT alongside their JD.
2.) There's no technical reason why V-chips can't work with video games, it's just the games aren't legally required to send a rating code to the TV, codes which might not match up with ESRB ratings anyway.
Also, cocks.
Talking sense? Prepare to DIE, Guppy06!
Well, no, but they should be tuned in enough to how society currently works to at least have a middling clue. Or ask their nephews or whatever. Research!
And, of course, one could merely read the Wikipedia article on the V-chip. Buy hey! That would require justices to know how to get to Wikipedia. That article also has the following excerpt in it:
"[m]ost researchers and investigators agree that exposure to media violence alone does not cause a child to commit a violent act, and that it is not the sole, or even the most important, factor in contributing to youth aggression, anti-social attitudes, and violence."
How much for the cocks?
It's Ok because the Supremes get to ask the lawyers questions so the lawyers can … oh shit – we are so screwed.
No I.T. degree needed, but a question or two during confirmation hearings would help. Like: "What is the packet format for a TCP/IP datagram?" Or "What was the original intent of port 8023?"
Trouble is these robe-ots stay on the court for an e-Ternity. Scalia made his bones about when Windows 1.0 was released. So we'll need to term-limit them to two releases of Mac OS.
They're split. 4 think it's magic, 4 think it's witchcraft and one thinks you use a dead chicken.
I take it that one is Justice Thomas, and by "use a dead chicken," you mean masturbate.
Can't be Thomas, because Scalia thinks it's witchcraft.
Roberts is your dead chicken guy, under the corporate dead chickens are speech doctrine.
SCOTUS pwned by QEII
So does this imply that if I am Boss in Mafia Wars I could be subject to RICO statutes? Maybe I can be like Joe Miller, create a huge agribusiness on FarmVille and get me some huge Department of Agriculture grants.
Hooray I can be the ADM of Farmville!
Poor Anita! When will that man stop?
It's hard to laugh at this because it's so alarming.
Sure, that's a good point. But do consider BUTTSECHS!!!111!!!
The scariest thing in the article is this:
Scalia, who was appointed in 1986 by Republican President Ronald Reagan, called the writing of the Constitution "providential."
WTF? Does this mean that God wrote the constitution?
No, Jesus wrote it.
How will the addition of the much younger Kagan impact the important and sure to be landmark upcoming case of Farina vs. Oatmeal?
Old fucks.
I was at this talk, he was not clueless as the WaPO suggest. Maybe not a facebook whiz, but over all a very smart guy. He played up a little bit of the technophobe to make the point that the framers of the constitution had no idea the supreme court would one day be deciding on issues that impact websites like facebook.
Last weekend while visiting my 91 yr old granny she asked me "When they say that something is on "The Facebook", where on "The Facebook" is it?" Reading the Supreme Court hearings is like deja vu.
This is indeed disturbing news with ominous implications for all Americans.
Expect a surprise decision on the upcoming Goatse v. Lemonparty case.
I heard the Supreme Court has a 1849 version of the Pac Man video game in the break room that's powered by belts and pulleys…
Feel good link of the day:
http://www.boomerdeathcounter.com/
Sad thing is, we still gotta unload all these "Greatest Generation" fuckos before we can even start with the Boomers.
Aren't you glad they didn't have to decide the outcome of Dancing with Stars?
It's hipper than snorting Dutch Cleanser. Whatevs.
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