Among the many social clubs for America’s closeted homosexuals expressing outrage about the overturning of the gay marriage ban in California, the American Family Association might be the angriest. They’re taking some time from boycotting Gay Home Depot to make Congress impeach Judge Vaughn Walker, because they think he’s a misbehaving gay tyrant.
The Constitutional Basis for the AFA’s claims:
Since marriage policy is not established anywhere in the federal Constitution, defining marriage, according to the 10th Amendment, is an issue reserved for the states. Judge Walker never should have accepted this case in the first place.
Under Judge Walker, it’s no longer “We the People,” it’s “I the Judge.”
Um, OK … so then what about the Defense of Marriage Act? Is that unconstitutional? Please explain this, AFA President Tim Wildmon and Friends, in a 20-page paper in which you also address this other argument you made:
Judge Walker is an open homosexual, and should have recused himself from this case due to his obvious conflict of interest.
Following this line of thinking:
- Straight judges should recuse themselves from any case involving heterosexual marriage.
- Any judge who pays taxes should not decide cases about taxes.
- Any judge who is white should not judge a case involving white people.
- Any judge who shops at Gay Home Depot should not even be a judge.
The paper should be double-spaced, with footnotes, and no crazy fonts please. Please turn it in by next Friday at the latest. [American Family Association]
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Okay, so where are ghey Homer hating conservatives going to get their wood now? Down @ Lowes?
Why limit the logic to judges? I’d love to see it applied to Congress as well. To wit:
Any member of Congress who abuses tanning salong should not vote on health care bills (bye bye Boehner)
Any member of Congress who is likely to need home health care assistants should not vote on immigration issues (so long, McCain–just to name one)
Any member of Congress who cheats on his/her marriage should not vote on same sex marriage (that would effectively silence Congress on *that* issue)
PS: That American flag polo shirt is totally gay.
Ha ha, federal judges appointed for life. Yes they can be impeached, but it don’t happen too freakin’ often, and when it has it’s been for official corruption. Ain’t that Constimitooshun a bitch? Let’s change it!
Uh, is that the BTK Killer?
Just like Thurgood Marshall should have recused himself in Brown v. Board of Education.
This is just another example of liberal activist judges… what, Walker was a Bush appointee?
/Begins drinking
I sense an acute case of anal laxity–CALL THE LOVE DOCTOR!!!!
I wonder if the AFA would object to a judge who happens to be an aborted fetus ruling on abortion. I think not. Oh and where I come from it’s Homo Depot.
The judge is a conservative Republican who is OPENLY gay? He should be impeached for not pretending he just has a wide stance or is just rambunctious with male staffers/roommates/baggage handlers/poolboys. This whole thing is obviously a plot to make Larry Craig’s normal heterosexual marriage seem like a sham. How DARE he?
It’s almost as if Prop. 8 has no legal grounding whatsoever and is just backed by dipshitty rhetoric from medieval troglodytes and votes from gullible people looking for a societal scapegoat.
It’s horrible that they let this judge rule on whether gay marriage is legal. In an ideal world, decisions about the constitutionality of controversial acts should be made only by a screaming mob of people in tricornered hats carrying misspelled signs.
I like this kind of reasoning – I should be recused from washing dishes BECAUSE I ATE OFF THOSE DISHES!!!! I should be restrained from raising my children BECAUSE I PARTICIPATED IN THE MAKING OF THOSE CHILDREN!!!…I’m sure there’s some reason that I CAN’T BE ALLOWED TO WORK!!!!
Btw, that “father figure” guy on the AFA’s news release site? Totally gay.
[re=633485]hi ox[/re]: Never mix alcohol with Conservapedia.
They doth protest too much. And I mean that in the “he who smelt it dealt it” kind of way.
[re=633504]queeraselvis v 2.0[/re]: LOL. I thought the same thing.
[re=633502]SayItWithWookies[/re]: That sounds a lot like the State of Nature. But these Neanderthals are so backwards, they’d feel right at home.
Since marriage policy is not established anywhere in the federal Constitution, defining marriage, according to the 10th Amendment, is an issue reserved for the states. Judge Walker never should have accepted this case in the first place.
Ain’t that some fancy legal thinking there, partner.
Judge Walker is an open homosexual, and should have recused himself from this case due to his obvious conflict of interest.
Sounds like someones is wanting to propose to the good Judge. I guess they just assume he ruled that way because he wants to get married. They could be wrong.
Oh, great. Once again, we get to listen to twice- and thrice-married breeders (Newt Gingrich, et al.) pontificating on the “sanctity of marriage”…
[re=633485]hi ox[/re]: Well, an “H” not “W” appointment. You remember him, the one we thought was a heartless corporatist leading us down the path to a police state, but who now seems so reasonable and benign in hindsight? The one who didn’t bankrupt every business venture he touched, actually fought in a war and sort of believed in diplomacy? The one Oliphant always drew holding a purse because he was effete and unashamed of his education?
Goddamn. I just depressed myself. Guess I’ll join you in some AM drinking today.
[re=633466]jus_wonderin[/re]:
If we’ve learned anything from history it’s that many of them still shop at Depot, they just prefer to have their wood quietly delivered to the back door while the wife is out of the house.
That paper is going to come back in Comic Sans.
[re=633485]hi ox[/re]: Thurgood Marshall was the lawyer, not the judge, in Brown. However he should have recused himself from Roe v. Wade because he was not aborted.
Christian judges should be recused from ruling on any law backed by Christian wingnuts.
Since the issue is not about gay marriage, but who can be married, by the logic of these asswipes any human with gender and sexual orientation would be subject to the same claims of bias. That means no one should ever address the issue of marriage, ever – oh, and we need to start appointing asexually reproducing organisms to the bench.
On a semi serious note, the fact that a policy area is generally reserved for the states doesn’t mean the states can violate equal protection or due process in doing so. Funny thing abut the 14th amendment – it came after number 10 and shockingly enough amends and limits its application. Dumbass.
[re=633516]BOOBIES![/re]: I thought they were supposed to “judge not, lest…” Oh. Never mind.
I thought it was that guy Tobias Fünke from Arrested Development.
[re=633513]edgydrifter[/re]: Plus, H was a baseball star at Yale, whereas W was a cheerleader. H was a war hero; W hid out in the AL ANG when he showed up at all.
Judge Walker is also an american citizen. He should recuse himself from all decisions concerning whether citizens should be afforded rights under the Constitution.
I’m typing this entire paper in Zapf Chancery. It suits my regal nature.
I didn’t hear a peep out of these assholes when oily judges with oily shares in oily companies ruled on oil drilling moratoriums.
Ultimate recusal excuse: Humanity. “Oh look, both of these people are human, as a human I cannot possibly judge them, unless I am without sin. We are all sinners? Crap. “
[re=633509]The Silver Fox[/re]: That sounds a lot like the State of Nature.
A variant of the same: nasty, brutish and far too long.
This is why there should NOT be gay soldiers. They will use their “gaydar” (Raytheon model 422B) to detect enemy gay soldiers. Then not shoot them.
Actually I’ve wondered why social conservatives, don’t advocate for an all non-heterosexual military. Seems like that avoids the discomfort non-non-heterosexuals supposedly would feel in the barracks. With the plus that during combat, well, said conservative would just say “they’re expendable”.
As an American, I’m not allowed to form any opinions or make any decisions about America.
To follow that logic Rush Limbaugh should be….shit, my head hurts.
[re=633485]hi ox[/re]: Thurgood Marshall argued the case before the Supreme Court, which was all white (males) at the time. LBJ named Marshall to the Court later on. Perhaps that was a mistake according to AFA.
Damn. I have to recuse myself from commenting because I can articulate thoughts.
now that all the gays are busying getting gay married , all the glory holes at the truck stop etc are empty , so what are these guys gonna do now ? isn’t that the real cause of their prissy little upset ? it’s all they had , and now it’s gone …
I think I am beginning to boil over about this. Do these AFA freaks live in a freakin’ bubble? If most of them weren’t already orbiting Uranus, I’d say we should send them there pronto. Let’s take up a collection to buy them all passage on the next deep space probe.
Open homosexuals are the best homosexuals.
[re=633485]hi ox[/re]: As noted, in Brown v. Bd of Education Thur-Good Marshall was the darky lawyer arguing the case for the NAACP, not a Judge. Earl “Impeach-That-Commie!” Warren was the Chief Justice and “decider” in that case, not the Great Judicial Negro (well, unless you consider Kagan’s furious back-peddling, that is).
Personally, I think that the Wingnuts have a viable argument about Judge Walker. After all, the Declaration of Independence speaks eloquently of the injustices suffered at the hands of monarch, e.g.:
“In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.”
And who is more of a monarch than a RAGING QUEEN?!?!?
(Hey, these are the jokes, folks!)
Dr. Neilist
Ned Beatty Endowed Chair, Department of Homosexual & Banjo Studies
University of West Virginia
Of course, the really dumb part of this is that if they thought he was biased they should have raised it at the outset. You don’t get to go all the way through trial and then scream “bias!”
What else would they do?
If it’s legally correct, and if it’s constitutionally correct, there is only one thing to do: IMPEACH THE JUDGE!
If you lose an election, SECEDE! If your business is polluting, BE A TENTHER! If you hate illegals, OVERTHROW THE 13TH! If you don’t like people, OVERTURN THE 17TH!
In other words, bitch, piss, and then get violent, because it’s your way or no way.
AFA puts the log in log cabin.
[re=633554]Canuck13652[/re]: You do if you have no case, no witnesses and are arguing against civil liberties, because then it’s all about rallying the wingnuts to take up their torches and pitchforks. Claiming bias on the part of the judge was really their only strategy.
Ooookay… so they are also boycotting Sears for selling nu***y (they can´t even type the word?). Y’all probably knew this, but that rock I was under is frigging heavy. Since I found out that I could send a letter to the leadership of Smears, I took the opportunity the AFA nicely presented and sent this:
“Dear Mr. Costello:
I can’t understand why Sears is choosing to sell adult materials on its website. But I’m pretty damn happy about it.
Thanks to the American Family Association (AFA), I found out about your awesome “Safe Sex is Hot Sex” posters, a message I embrace (see what I did there?).
Thanks again for promoting responsible sexuality and giving adults choices on their home decor.
Cheers!
- [Rev. Juan MessyCan]“
what’s wrong with this judge? he was appointed by St. Reagan and by Bush.
isn’t that enough “goodness” to clear his name forever?
Dear Asshats:
Please read more than the free exercise clause of th4e 1st amendment, and the “every one pack heat at bars” clause of the 2nd Amendment, take a longing look at the 10th amendment (and repeat your bizarro interpretation of it, for lulz) and then hop right over the 13th (Negroes are Free!!) to the 14th amendment, which says, “No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
See, it just isn’t that hard. You all love this due process stuff for militias and Fred Phelps and all that, but you can’t dig the “equal protection” stuff? And you all claim to love the Constitution? Dopes.
[Also, don't come bleating to me about the "Founding Fathers" and all that typical bullshit. Madison, Hamilton, et al. were every single kind of Dead when that nasty 14th amendment (the one that also makes messican "anchor babies" citizens) was drafted and ratified, you stupid tea party nutters.]
Love,
Normal Americans
[re=633561]Geogre[/re]: “In other words, bitch, piss, and then get violent, because it’s your way or no way.”
At long last, a short, clear, and compelling articulation of the Current Republican Zeitgiest.
And my personal philosophy, come to think of it.
Thank you, Geogre. (Hey, wait a minute: You’re not KING George, are you?????)
Correction noted.
Sorry about that. I got so excited that I had something to say that I forgot about facts for a moment (plus the drinking in the AM).
…or, it was a clever parody of the right-wing lack of fact based argument that went over everyone’s head. (Nah, it was the first thing.)
[re=633564]Rev. Juan MessyCan[/re]: I’m too stupid: I can’t figure out what nu***y is.
Nutz Trucky?
Nuts’n'Honey?
Nuthin’ Remotely Appealing to Buy?
PS: Heinrich Himmler hasn’t aged a bit! He should go back to wearing black leather, though.
[re=633546]jus_wonderin[/re]: Let ‘em orbit your anus. I don’t want them anywhere near mine.
Lauri Apple, your link at the end of this post links to this post.
I am against masturbatory post-on-post link sex, and will be contacting the AFA immediately to register my disgust, and to call for your impeachment!
It if wasn’t for the AFA’S promptings, I would probably never respond to their calls for action. But thanks to this urgent appeal from them, I’ve immediately written to my representative to demand that the AFA be investigated as a hate organization.
[re=633581]DangerousLiberal[/re]: Well said. And +1 for noting that the Founding Fathers were, and still remain, every single kind of Dead.
Vander Platts in Iowa is trying something similar-campaining to oust three judges. Oh, and he’s from Steve King’s district. I think it must be something in the water.
http://iowaindependent.com/40752/vander-plaats-wont-run-for-governor-or-endorse-branstad
[re=633513]edgydrifter[/re]: If it helps you to feel better, HW helped to deregulate everything that Reagan didn’t get a chance to deregulate, so he had a hand in our fantastic banking and employment situations.
I wonder what Scalia would say, if they asked him to recuse himself from a case, for oh, I don’t know, being duck hunting pals with one of the named parties in the case he was deciding? If only we could guess. He’d probably just shrug and say “what’s the problem?” or some shit.
[re=633472]ArkansasFred[/re]: No, it’s his evil twin. Understandable getting them confused, however…
[re=633636]RoscoePColtraine[/re]: Maybe he’d make a hand gesture in front of a church that a nun would have smacked the hell out of him for.
[re=633531]just pixels[/re]: Or marry them.
I’m an openly straight attorney in San Francisco who dealt with Walker before and after he became a judge. He wasn’t “openly” gay until he kinda got outed in the middle of this case, hence the lack of uproar from the right when the case was assigned to him.
[re=633636]RoscoePColtraine[/re]: In fact, what he did was make a gesture that is, coincidentally, the equivalent of saying, “Fuck yourself.”
[re=633597]BobTheBuilder[/re]: nothing that exciting (in that sense) for me: “nubile young women at play” – but the safe sex poster was a webberesque pic of male/female couples pressed up (or embracing) against each other at some shore. There is some frat-fap girl-on-girl ear and clothing adjustment, but it took three waves of “do you really want to see this ***ual imagery?” (just to make me shiver with anticip…).
And by ***ual they mean “for my niece, not at all unusual”
To the AFA, nothing says “unbiased” like a healthy, proper loathing of gay people.
[re=633650]Come here a minute[/re]: Whoops, wrong gesture–what he really would say is “Quack, quack.”
[re=633585]Neilist[/re]: Oh, alas, I am not a king.
Instead, I expect, at any moment, to hear the words “Dead for a ducat!” and then get stabbed.
In fact, I may not even be an ogre anymore, but I haven’t yet found out what we ogres become when we age out of our professional lives of terrorizing dimwits.
[re=633636]RoscoePColtraine[/re]: I would imagine that Scalia would say the same thing about a state deciding an election for that governor’s brother. These are hypotheticals, of course, because the real Scalia would never be put in a position to show lack of ethics like this. Our legislature would act, if nothing else, to prevent it.
[re=633547]Hemp Dogbane[/re]: “Open homosexuals are the best homosexuals.”
How did you test that hypothesis? WAIT! Never mind, don’t wanna know.
[re=633597]BobTheBuilder[/re]: oh good, I’m not the only one . . . um, “nudity”?
[re=633681]Geogre[/re]: Sometimes the humor on here just gives me a sad.
[re=633684]just pixels[/re]: After years of research, I still need more data.
CanonicalConical data if you know what I mean, and I think you do.[re=633681]Geogre[/re]: Or, if Scalia were to decide a case on gay marriage, where he belongs to a religious cult led by men in funny hats teach that God will condemn you to an eternal fire if you have sex with someone whose genitals resemble your own.
They are just a mob of idiots.
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/08/tea_party_intrigue_in_maine_shows_just_how_deep_pa.php?ref=fpblg
We’re all just waiting for these bigots to die. It’s all a matter of time, folks.
A poem for George Reker
“The Family Council once had a Minister in Chief
Who nibbled on cocks with his teeth
It wasn’t for fame
Or for love of the game
Twas to get at the cheese underneath…”
Peace… God bless…
[re=633547]Hemp Dogbane[/re]: A hungry dog is a better dog. Makes sense to me.
[re=633513]edgydrifter[/re]: In addition to what others have said, check this out. The Hinckley parts in particular.
And a Judge who breathes should recuse her- or him-self from ruling on the Clean Air Act. Also.
[re=633540]Rev. Juan MessyCan[/re]: Well, in that case you’re certainly not a right wing nut.
[re=633554]Canuck13652[/re]: Sure you do … if you just lost!
[re=633696]The Silver Fox[/re]: Wasn’t it up in Maine where the TeaBaggers held a meeting at a school and went through all the teacher’s stuff, tore down posters, etc., etc.?
I love the right wing nut excuse “It wasn’t us – it was done by a plant.”
Meanwhile, the statement: “Amy Hale is a liability to the Tea Party Movement,” Cucci wrote. “Amy Hale has been alienating people by prideful statements, pirating ideas, controlling statements and actions, manipulative actions, shunning advice and giving untruthful advice, which in some cases has resulted in no participation or refrained participation in the Tea Party Movement by those affected.” sounds to me like one of those endless college campus disputes between socialist organizations. Or a discussion of the foreign policy of a Berkeley CA corner market.
[re=633629]pondscum[/re]: When I heard he was giving a press conference today, I was really hoping that he was going to announce that he was going to run for Governor under the Tea Bagger Party banner. As it is, his supporters won’t vote for either Culver or Branstad, because neither one will demand a full blown Constitutional Amendment Vote banning same-sex marriage in the state of Iowa.
Not sure what the Wingnuts hope to accomplish by getting three judges voted off the Supreme Court, its pretty much a wasted effort since the Supreme Court won’t re-hear the case and neither the Executive or Legislative bodies are in any mind to try to amend the Constitution.
At least they aren’t trying to blow anything up, yet.
David Boaz on Vaughn Walker, the judge who struck down Proposition 8
In other words, this “liberal San Francisco judge” was recommended by Ed Meese, appointed by Ronald Reagan, and opposed by Alan Cranston, Nancy Pelosi, Edward Kennedy, and the leading gay activist groups. It’s a good thing for for advocates of marriage equality that those forces were only able to block Walker twice.
Family Values Wingnuts, that really frames the “conversation.” Let’s skip straight to the ad hominem attacks. What is the purpose of “homosexual marriage?” Marriage law was created to protect the children that homosexual couples still can’t have, so there is no reason for “homosexual marriage.”
And judges who can talk should not preside in free-speech cases. (…shaking head in disgust, rolling eyes, muttering to self, reaching for vodka bottle, eschewing glass).
[re=633910]youfuckingdorks[/re]: I’m married and have no plans to have kids. So my marriage should be annulled? Fucking idiot. How’s that for ad hominem? I know I shouldn’t feed the trolls, but sometimes I can’t help myself.
[re=633910]youfuckingdorks[/re]: “Marriage law was created to protect the children that homosexual couples still can’t have, so there is no reason for “homosexual marriage.””
So when homosexual couples DO have children, they should be allowed to marry? Is that your argument? HOORAY! I know three gay couples you’ve just declared fit for marriage. And those are just ones that I happen to know personally.
Dumbass, may I call you “Dumbass?” Yes. Well you see, my seventy-five year old widowed grandmother recently got married to her seventy-eight year old boyfriend. What shall I tell her the pea-brained wingnut troll at wonkette said about the reason marriage law was created? I really don’t want to break her heart, she’s such a sweet old gal.
[re=633910]youfuckingdorks[/re]: I thought calling you family values wingnuts “Family Values Wingnuts” was the ad hominem attack, but if you’re still confused we can come up with more. This is Wonkette, after all.
Do these people not read?
OK, let me start over, because I already know the answer to that: do these people not know anyone who can read to them? And in particular, do they not understand how numbers work? Because support for same-sex marriage is higher and higher in each successively younger age group — the syntax of that got away from me, but the point is that the voters of the future don’t care about this issue and in fact find this weird intolerance off-putting. I believe those are voters the Republitards need if they are to have any existence at all in the coming years.
Actually, having put it that way, I’m kind of glad they don’t read or do math. Reading and math are socialist anyways.
At this point, the Right thinks we can only impeach someone over fellatio, receiving (Clinton) &/or giving (Vaughn Walker).
Precedent.
[re=634000]ArugulaTeleprompterz[/re]: feeding trolls is nothing to be ashamed of . it can and should be a refreshing exercise . why do you hate exercise ? getting back to the asshole troll , he/she/whatever is lying about what marriage was traditionally in the bronze age , and for centuries after . it was about property and property rights . the female was property , the children were property . bought and sold . thats why religion got in the picture . for the money . so , since they didn’t invent marriage , who are they to dictate the definition when they are just parasites feeding off of it ? these liars spouting the lying lies of their tradition are just liars . how’s that for ad hominem ?
Right wingers do not, generally, have any idea what “impeach” means.
[re=633523]V572625694[/re]: And yet, in the end, H did raise W to be the piece of shit he was and is. It couldn’t have all been Barbara’s doing.
[re=634074]OnePumpChump[/re]: yes they do . they can ‘read between the lines’ . it means facefucking . clinton to monica , right wing to clinton . impeach is just fancy shmancy code for good old fashioned facefucking .
[re=633910]youfuckingdorks[/re]: Ah ha ha ha ha “protect the children” ah ha ha. Ahhhhh. *sigh* That’s totally hysterical. When marriage was established children rarely lived to the age of five, at best. They were chattel. If they were female they were worth less than the family goat. There was nothing to “protect” in the modern sense of your childish understanding. It was so desperate that adoption until very recently was always for property inheritance, so the monied classes could legally designate who got their stuff because all 15 children and two wives kicked the bucket trying to produce a living son to inherit.
Good grief. Seriously. Read some actual fucking human history that wasn’t written by a bullshit sideshow husker. Start with the Mesopotamians or better yet the Sumerians. They had some shit going. Invented ink a thousand years before you think the earth was created and everything. Fucking wizards they were.
You probably also delusionally believe abortion isn’t thousands of years old too…
[re=633786]Tundra Grifter[/re]: I love that accusation of “pirating ideas”. Um, you have a movement don’t you? Pirating ideas is a total win. It’s the entire freakin’ point of a movement. Jesus, the glory of immature idiocy doth shineth out from them. Blindingly.
[re=634135]Darkness[/re]: Read some history?
“History is an account, mostly false, of events, mostly unimportant, which are brought about by rulers, mostly knaves, and soldiers, mostly fools.”
That Ambrose Bierce. What a card.
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