• May 26, 2012

Actual Vatican Sex-Abuse Excuse: Bishops & Priests Don’t Really Work For the Vatican

by Ken Layne  

That ain't Santa.How is the Vatican’s decades-long child-rape international outrage not the Vatican’s fault today? The Pope’s lawyers are arguing in a Louisville, Kentucky court that priests and bishops don’t, uh, actually work for the Vatican. So, you know, not the Pope’s problem! Do not even *think* about indicting the Pope.

The AP reports:

The Vatican on Monday will make its most detailed defense yet against claims that it is liable for U.S. bishops who allowed priests to molest children, saying bishops are not its employees and that a 1962 Vatican document did not require them to keep quiet, The Associated Press has learned.

Ha, what? The Vatican chooses bishops to run its various dioceses, and the Vatican can throw any priest — or monk or nun or whatever — out of the entire Catholic Church just by saying “I divorce thee, I divorce thee, I divorce thee” (in Latin).

And what about this “smoking gun” document from the Vatican?

The document describes how church authorities should deal procedurally with cases of abuse of children by priests, cases where sex is solicited in the confessional — a particularly heinous crime under canon law — and cases of homosexuality and bestiality.

Anyway, once the Vatican loses this round, maybe the whole dirty mafioso operation can be bankrupted with the proceeds going to the millions (probably?) of people savagely raped and beaten and sexually abused by evil monsters who lurk in the wrong side of Church confessionals. [MSNBC/AP]

{ 44 comments }

user-of-owls May 17, 2010 at 10:00 am

alt-alt-text: “Who talks this way, ho ho ho”

user-of-owls May 17, 2010 at 10:01 am

From faux panda porn to actual papal porn. Long strange trip indeed.

Zadig May 17, 2010 at 10:03 am

In before Pope Palpatine excommunicates the shit out of the prosecutor, Attorney General, and Eric Holder for good measure. And you know what, UN? Fuck you too, you’re out of here.

Larry Fine May 17, 2010 at 10:06 am

How about the guy who creates the fabulous gowns that the Pope wears. Is he employed by the Vatican?

V572625694 May 17, 2010 at 10:08 am

The Pontiff is using the BP defense: hey, we subbed it out!

ttommyunger May 17, 2010 at 10:08 am

So, the infallible spokesman for God on Earth is falling back on the old Corporate “Independent Contractor” dodge, eh? As a continually backslidden Christian, I can only say the dismantling of this horrific enterprise is centuries overdue. The torture, death and destruction carried out by the Pope and his minions over time is too great to catalog, too pervasive to control, too endemic to root out. Dismantle it, destroy it, bankrupt it; God will do just fine without this “advocate”.

JMP May 17, 2010 at 10:10 am

So the Nazi Pope’s defense is that he was only giving orders.

proudgrampa May 17, 2010 at 10:10 am

Jesus is coming and boy, is he pissed.

Texan Bulldoggette May 17, 2010 at 10:11 am

[re=578313]V572625694[/re]: I figure next they’ll be saying ‘hey, they’re contractors/consultants; we hired them from a temp agency so we wouldn’t have to pay for their health insurance.’

pub_option May 17, 2010 at 10:12 am

Regarding alt-text. It does look like a particularly unpleasant elf is reading a porno mag.

Long Form Def Certificate May 17, 2010 at 10:13 am

They obviously work for the Lord, Our Father, Creator of Heaven & Earth, All That Is Seen & Unseen, so if anybody needs to be sued, He does.

The Pope is just His spokesman.

Or, to put this matter in an Earthly analogy, it would be the same as the GOP-controlled House, c. 2011, impeaching Robert Gibbs when they really mean to impeach NOBAMA.

Joshua Norton May 17, 2010 at 10:13 am

[re=578313]V572625694[/re]:

Actually, being the good German that he is, he’s using the Sgt. Schultz defense:

“I know nothing, I see nothing, and I say nothing“!

the problem child May 17, 2010 at 10:14 am

Not employees? How about agents, appointees, designates, surrogates, or servants instead? Or lackies, tools and sychophants.

user-of-owls May 17, 2010 at 10:15 am

[re=578313]V572625694[/re]: [re=578320]Texan Bulldoggette[/re]: ZOMG! The bishops..the priests…they work for Blackwater!!

ph7 May 17, 2010 at 10:18 am

Note to Bishops: you can apparently stop paying Tribute now.

user-of-owls May 17, 2010 at 10:18 am

[re=578326]the problem child[/re]: Or lickspittles, toadies, fawners and trucklers.

Cape Clod May 17, 2010 at 10:18 am

So the church in my town is basically just a franchise? I guess that means they can make up their own rules then. Lady priests, gay marriage, contraception will be allowed and headquarters will give them some latitude, ameyerite?

pub_option May 17, 2010 at 10:20 am

[re=578326]the problem child[/re]: Are some of these names considered sub-classes of angel in Catholic doctrine?

ella May 17, 2010 at 10:24 am

So soliciting sex in the confessional is a heinous crime but bestiality is just “oh by the way”?

norbizness May 17, 2010 at 10:26 am

“No one who speaks German could be an evil man.”

user-of-owls May 17, 2010 at 10:27 am

[re=578335]Cape Clod[/re]: No, even franchises have to follow corporate rules. Otherwise, some local McDonalds could decide to serve actual meat in their meals.

JMP May 17, 2010 at 10:30 am

[re=578335]Cape Clod[/re]: Apparently the threats to excommunicate bishops who didn’t cover up the rapes were just little suggestions.

sagebrush May 17, 2010 at 10:33 am

Next the Vatican will say its not the Pope’s fault because he’s not Catholic.

disgustedcitizen May 17, 2010 at 10:34 am

That crunching sound you hear are the US Bishops being tossed under the bus.

Asa Hawks May 17, 2010 at 10:37 am

How unbelievably cowardly. No one expects sainthood from the Vatican, but is it too much to expect them to behave like reasonably decent human beings?

V572625694 May 17, 2010 at 10:47 am

[re=578369]Asa Hawks[/re]: Why, yes it is too much to expect. But no one expects the Spanish…etc etc.

TGY May 17, 2010 at 10:58 am

Implausible deniability.

Way Cool Larry May 17, 2010 at 11:11 am

Man will never be free until the last pope is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.

Come here a minute May 17, 2010 at 11:12 am

The Vatican can throw any priest out of the entire Catholic Church just by saying “I divorce thee, I divorce thee, I divorce thee”.

This does not become official until the Vatican throws dog poop on their shoes.

Godot May 17, 2010 at 11:15 am

[re=578335]Cape Clod[/re]: “Salvation. Available at participating Catholic churches.”

Mahousu May 17, 2010 at 11:23 am

No, the Vatican is not like a corporation with the bishops and priests as its employees. It’s more along the lines of a swinger’s club.

mumblyjoe May 17, 2010 at 11:25 am

So, Andrew Sullivan and others love to refer to Scientology as “Super Adventure Club”. I hereby submit that this is mistaken, and the monniker “Super Adventure Club” should be used exclusively to refer to the Catholic Church.

Here’s why: In the South Park Episode, Super Adventure Club is used as an analogy to lampoon Scientology’s batshit insane, and deeply harmful, beliefs.

By contrast, though: raping young boys in exotic locales, for Eternal Life, is LITERALLY what Super Catholic Club believes, apparently.

Zadig May 17, 2010 at 11:26 am

[re=578343]ella[/re]: On the plus side, after you solicit sex in the confessional, hey, you’re already in the confessional. We’ll just sort out this little heinous sin quick-like. Whereas with bestiality, you’re less damned, but you have to drive miles from the farm to find a decent Forgiveness Booth.

chaste everywhere May 17, 2010 at 11:38 am

Like priests and bishops WORK!

justthisonce May 17, 2010 at 12:31 pm

I’m gonna need to see some W-2s and/or 1099s. Papers, please…

mumblyjoe May 17, 2010 at 12:34 pm

[re=578420]mumblyjoe[/re]: Catholic Adventure Club? Super Adventure Catholicism?

gurukalehuru May 17, 2010 at 1:08 pm

God is a child molester.

SayItWithWookies May 17, 2010 at 1:26 pm

So priests aren’t actually church employees — they just receive their (meager) salary from the church, get their rules from the church, obey the church and swear loyalty to the church, but actually act as independent autonomous units. So really, they’re more like al-Qaeda cells — got it.

mumblyjoe May 17, 2010 at 1:37 pm

[re=578522]SayItWithWookies[/re]: Fun fact: “Ordain” and “Subordinate” apparently share a root. Not that bishops are subordinate to the Vatican, mind you. They just, umm, ordained by the Vatican, and need to do whatever the Vatican tells them, or else they get kicked out of Super Catholic Club.

BobTheBuilder May 17, 2010 at 1:51 pm

If only all priests looked like that photo, the Catholic church would have no molestation problem.

BeWoot May 17, 2010 at 2:23 pm

Bestiality? Really? This mondo outre fetish keeps turning up in all sorts of prohibitive contexts. How common can bestiality be? Am I missing something?

mumblyjoe May 17, 2010 at 2:34 pm

Re: the alt text, you really don’t want an elf-job from that guy.

Asa Hawks May 17, 2010 at 2:35 pm

[re=578378]V572625694[/re]: Our two weapons are surprise, fear and ludicrous legal arguments. No wait, that’s three weapons.

PlanetWingnuta May 17, 2010 at 3:07 pm

sooooooooooooooooooo they dont work for the vatican eh? ok then popesie NEVER COME TO THE US AGAIN…STAY THE F_CK OUT!

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