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Bill Kristol Ensures ObamaCare Will Last Beyond 2013

by Jim Newell  4:28 pm March 22, 2010

Awful human being Bill Kristol predicted on Fox News yesterday that this health care reform bill will be repealed in 2013 — or “the bulk of it” at least, which probably means repealing the insurance mandate, which will cause premiums to exponentially skyrocket, which will then mean having to repeal the pre-existing condition/lifetime caps/rescission consumer protections, etc. etc.; policy people did put SOME thought into this construction — and so we can now safely bet that it will not be repealed ever, since Bill Kristol is wrong about everything.

Also note Brit Hume joining the chorus about how Republicans should follow Paul Ryan’s Very Serious Fiscally Responsible Plan For Budgets And Money And Deficits Which Is Very Serious. It is a Very Serious Plan, and everyone loves it, especially the non-partisan Center on Budget and Policy Priorities:

Contrary to claims that the Ryan plan is fiscally responsible — which reflect a misunderstanding of CBO’s analysis of the proposal — the plan would leave the federal budget in dire straits for decades as a result of its massive tax cuts for wealthy households and its diversion of Social Security payroll taxes to private accounts. The plan attempts to reduce deficits and debt many decades into the future by making deep cuts in Social Security’s defined benefits and by eliminating guaranteed Medicare benefits and substantially cutting back on medical assistance for low-income families and seniors. Yet even with these sweeping changes, the plan fails to achieve its fiscal goal, since federal debt under the proposal would rise over the next four decades to unsustainable levels far in excess of 100 percent of GDP. The proposal also would seriously erode employer-sponsored health insurance coverage for working Americans and their families without instituting the accompanying reforms in health insurance needed to create a viable substitute. All in all, the Ryan Roadmap charts a radical course that, if they understood it, few Americans likely would want to follow.

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{ 57 comments }

Lucidamente March 22, 2010 at 4:32 pm

And to think Bill has a pre-existing condition, a hernia from carry all that water for the Likud party.

Tommmcatt March 22, 2010 at 4:33 pm

He is so often right about so many things that this must be true as well.

comicbookguy March 22, 2010 at 4:34 pm

The only thing that won’t be repealed is the death panels. Only because President Palin will forget to write it on her hand.

V572625694 March 22, 2010 at 4:34 pm

The imprimatur of success: Kristol’s prediction of failure.

He’s really a Demo mole, isn’t he?

Lionel Hutz Esq. March 22, 2010 at 4:34 pm

You do realize that by “repeal” he means “bomb.”

bitchincamaro March 22, 2010 at 4:35 pm

Such diversity of opinion over at Fox! Yesterday Krauthammer was all, “This is the beginning of universal healthcare single payer marxist communism, you mark my words America! It starts right now!!!” Who am I supposed to believe???

Clancy_Pants March 22, 2010 at 4:35 pm

Look at Kristol speak, speak Bill speak: A noun a verb and “medicare”

memzilla March 22, 2010 at 4:36 pm

That Bill “Never Been Right About Any Prediction” Kristol predicts that HCR will be repealed gives me a sparkly tingly feeling all over. Bill should go eat a flaming bag of stupak.

Based on the Novel Push by Sapphire March 22, 2010 at 4:36 pm

This was the man who predicted that Terence Trent D’Arby would ultimately sell more albums than Michael Jackson. This is the man who said “Manimal” would be on T.V. longer than M*A*S*H. this is the man who swore that if he just hit the gym and trimmed up his nose hairs and really laid out his A-game, he could win Mary Cheney’s heart. This is the man whose political acumen, if it were a businessman, would greenlight a $100 million ad campaign for New Coke.

snideinplainsight March 22, 2010 at 4:37 pm

“The tyrants who stole our liberty in the dark last night now smugly write this morning that we are powerless to resist.

Not true.

Resistance will bring down this policy and this government.

Doctors can refuse to accept patients.
Donors can stop contributing.
Employers can refuse to hire.

Resistance is not futile.”

What I love so much about this is how the crazy escalates when they actually have to confront reality. The fistshaking, the inchoate patriotic rhetoric. And the meaningless threats! They’re just so cute! Awwwwwww!

(Comment from WashPost comments section.)

BarackMyWorld March 22, 2010 at 4:37 pm

The premise that Republicans will score huge is based on pre-passage opposition to the bill…and THAT opposition was based on what people thought was in the bill (i.e. the alleged government take-over, death panels, abortion funding, coverage for illegal immigrants, etc.), rather than what was actually in it.

I would HOPE people would be skeptical about believing things that don’t actually exist, so….Kristol may have a point.

Lascauxcaveman March 22, 2010 at 4:37 pm

Yay! Billy Kristol, the best counter-indicator yet devised by science or nature, has weighed in.

I hope he comes up with more projections. Some I’d like to see:

- Zero chance in the next 5 years for a lasting peace in Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel
- Republican challenger sure to take down Obama in ’12
- Caveman definitely not getting laid any time soon

snideinplainsight March 22, 2010 at 4:39 pm

Plus, to be fair, “awful” is self-evident, but how are we really sure Bill is a human being?

queeraselvis v 2.0 March 22, 2010 at 4:41 pm

[re=537105]Lucidamente[/re]: Oh, I just thought it was a terminal case of Headuphisassia.

TGY March 22, 2010 at 4:41 pm

The weather vane points due ‘permanent’.

Tommmcatt March 22, 2010 at 4:42 pm

[re=537119]snideinplainsight[/re]:

I dunno…does he claim to be one? This is the best way to know for sure…

SayItWithWookies March 22, 2010 at 4:42 pm

the plan would leave the federal budget in dire straits for decades as a result of its massive tax cuts for wealthy households and its diversion of Social Security payroll taxes to private accounts.

But it doesn’t call for invading a large, fractious, non-threatening nation in the heart of a historically unstable region of the world — so, improvement!

norbizness March 22, 2010 at 4:42 pm

You’re gonna eat a bowl of chow mein and be hungry real soon… I PREDICT.

DC Hates Me March 22, 2010 at 4:42 pm

Bill is sadly walking against the wind.

AxmxZ March 22, 2010 at 4:43 pm

“All in all, the Ryan Roadmap charts a radical course that, if they understood it, few Americans likely would want to follow.”

if they understood it
if they understood it
if they understood it
if they understood it
if they understood it
if they understood it
if they understood it
if they understood it

If Americans understood anything about anything, GOP would have 10 seats in Congress.

JMP March 22, 2010 at 4:46 pm

I love the Ryan budget, because for once a Republican honestly laid out exactly what they do want, in all of its glaring awfulness; and it’s to finish the Reagan revolution of stealing from the poor and middle-class to give to the rich, the end of government doing its job, never-ending deficits, and a transition to permanent economic aristocracy.

Ducksworthy March 22, 2010 at 4:47 pm

Repeal Medicare and Medicaid. Michael Steele are you listening to Paul Ryan. He’s got your winning platform all figured out. First, collect taxes from the poors then give all the money to rich people = win. Comeon Michael, lets get behind this OK? Big GOP victory in November (in the more backwards parts of the south.)

keepinitrealyo March 22, 2010 at 4:48 pm

[re=537124]norbizness[/re]: And this song will fade out.

NYNYNY March 22, 2010 at 4:48 pm

Wait…I just got a great idea, to really jump start the economy…what if we gave tax cuts to people in the upper income bracket (who are overtaxed) and cut services to the poor, education grants, fire IRS workers, cut infrastruture projects? Basically an anti-New Deal (because the New Deal was the reason the great depression lasted so long). I mean, I’m no economist, but what do you think? Sounds pretty intuitive. Yeah?

Ducksworthy March 22, 2010 at 4:51 pm

[re=537116]snideinplainsight[/re]: Do the Darleks know about this? Hoo boy. Wait till the Darleks find out about this “resistance is not futile” guy. They’re going to be so pissed. Well OK they’re basically always pissed.

Fox n Fiends March 22, 2010 at 4:54 pm

Speaking of Cults: Did Bill Kristol taste Ayn Rand’s hairy conch too?

thejesusandmarycheney March 22, 2010 at 5:00 pm

[re=537147]Fox n Fiends[/re]: Atlas gagged.

El Pinche March 22, 2010 at 5:01 pm

Bill Kristol is a stupid stupid man.

Yeah, I can see the repugs trying round up votes to charge the olds more for prescription meds, again (opening the doughnut hole), or reversing the pre-existing condition provisions. This law is irreversible you stupid old neocon fuck-face. Besides, this means the republicans would actually have to do something besides obstructing and fucking male prostitutes.

Pandy March 22, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Gramps March 22, 2010 at 5:03 pm

Frum has suspended comments on the “Waterloo”, thread; over at his blog, after taking right wing yakkers to task for serving their interests rather the common good.

Rush, you… “Just can’t stand the truth.”
Rock ‘em, sock ‘em … Dave!

snideinplainsight March 22, 2010 at 5:03 pm

[re=537145]Ducksworthy[/re]: Daleks are kind of cute too, when you think about it.

NYNYNY March 22, 2010 at 5:05 pm

[re=537129]JMP[/re]: Needs more golden Reagan statues. Course, that could create a couple jobs for artists. So make sure that the bid for the statues are won by China/Nigeria/Russia.

ManchuCandidate March 22, 2010 at 5:09 pm

Even Israel has Universal HC. Why does Bill Kristol hate Israel?

sati demise March 22, 2010 at 5:12 pm

so many heads exploding! Its just like the 4th of july!
It will be pure comedy gold when they try to repeal this legislation…..

JMP March 22, 2010 at 5:14 pm

[re=537158]Pandy[/re]: I wish that was shocking.

comicbookguy March 22, 2010 at 5:18 pm

[re=537168]ManchuCandidate[/re]: Maybe if they didn’t have universal healthcare they wouldn’t have so many angry Palestinians.

give us a bob March 22, 2010 at 5:18 pm

[re=537116]snideinplainsight[/re]:
“Doctors can refuse to accept patients.
Donors can stop contributing.
Employers can refuse to hire.”

I would happily advocate the bit about ceasing any and all political donations, striking me as something of a sudden outbreak of common sense worth encouraging.

However, I’m confused what refusing medical treatment or employment accomplishes, unless to breed an army of unemployed zombies … aha, answered my own question there, didn’t I?

JMP March 22, 2010 at 5:19 pm

[re=537164]NYNYNY[/re]: Statues of the Great One Reagan everywhere, along with tearing down the Lincoln and FDR memorials (Jefferson would go to, but the right’s able to contort his words to claim he was one of theirs). Replace them on the currency as well, along with Grant and Franklin; they can put Coolidge, Bush II and Barry Goldwater in their place.

It would be just like the late Roman Republic after one of their many civil wars; except for the whole providing bread to the masses part, since that would be socialist. Fox can handle the circuses, though.

MzNicky March 22, 2010 at 5:20 pm

I’m not so good at predicting stuff either, but for some reason, I kinda think that once it sinks in that, starting this year: Seniors get Rx drug rebates to close the doughnut hole; you can’t be denied coverage if you’re sick or have a preexisting condition; there’s no longer a lifetime cap on medical expenses, and kids can stay on their parents’ plan until they’re 26 — the Rethugs and their obstructionist delaying screaming do-nothing-but-whine-and-lie ways may not be real appealing to voters this November.

Extemporanus March 22, 2010 at 5:24 pm

[re=537147]Fox n Fiends[/re]: “Hairy conch”?

I believe you’re thinking of Whore of the Flies.

Gramps March 22, 2010 at 5:24 pm

[re=537158]Pandy[/re]: And that friends and neighbors, is guaranteed to prompt a visit from the Treasury Department.

V572625694 March 22, 2010 at 5:26 pm

[re=537129]JMP[/re]: You gotta give Chimpy Bush some credit for kicking that permanent-economic-aristocracy can a bit farther down the road. He eliminated taxes on inherited wealth, and reduced the taxes on unearned income to the same rate a minimum-wage truck-unloader at Walmart pays. And we thought he was stoopid….

Mad Brahms March 22, 2010 at 5:28 pm

Ugh, Paul Ryan is from Wisconsin. I saw him speak one at a forum on health care, actually, and he was every bit as smarmy then as he is now; he never saw a private interest he didn’t want to get teabagged by.

GOPCrusher March 22, 2010 at 5:30 pm

[re=537116]snideinplainsight[/re]: So basically, Lil Billy Kristol is calling for more of the same.

S.Luggo March 22, 2010 at 5:35 pm

[re=537184]MzNicky[/re]: All of this is worthless if we must pray to socialist nuns and cuban revolutionary Che Guantanamera and if illegal immigrants are not forced to live under bridges with goats.

BTW: Most teabaggers believe that Borodino is that pink goop you use to repair car fenders.

Rajul March 22, 2010 at 5:41 pm

Angry Brit Hume is angry.

give us a bob March 22, 2010 at 5:44 pm

[re=537158]Pandy[/re]: Is there perhaps some not entirely immoral way to encourage the wingnut wannabe assassins to always announce their intentions via the twitterz? That then becomes a self-rectifying problem.

Way Cool Larry March 22, 2010 at 5:46 pm

I wish someone would call Bill Kristol a baby-killer.

Rotundo March 22, 2010 at 5:49 pm

[re=537147]Fox n Fiends[/re]: Not tasted, weaned on it.

rocktonsammy March 22, 2010 at 5:51 pm

[re=537197]Mad Brahms[/re]: Ryan was no help in keeping the oldest GM plant in the world open in his district, Janesville, also.

He is a major smarmy asshole.

lawrenceofthedesert March 22, 2010 at 5:55 pm

“We can’t stand to be out of power and refuse to act like any sane minority party, so there; just repeal the last two years and things will be fine — for us, not for you, the majority. We are the Greedy Old Party preaching a return to oligarchy as usual. And hurry up before people discover that they like the new health care rules.” If Wee Willy Kristol had his way, corporate asskissing would replace baseball as the national pastime; he puts on brown lipstick before his first cuppa java. Only George Will is a bigger whore.

Cape Clod March 22, 2010 at 5:59 pm

It’s true that a broken clock is right at least twice a day, however Bill Kristol is a broken hourglass. Those fuckers are never right again.

donner_froh March 22, 2010 at 6:29 pm

[re=537249]Cape Clod[/re]: He is a sundial at midnight.

tranch coat March 22, 2010 at 9:08 pm

[re=537129]JMP[/re]: Exactly. The more exposure, the better. The Republicans now own the nigger/ faggot brigade.

If you put “RACIST HOMOPHOBE” and “WEALTHIEST 1% LICKSPITTLE” together, then you will get the Republican party.

It’s a nice and free place for Embittered- Stooges and Cynical Demagogues to- interact with each other. Maybe you wanna check out but- before you go, tell your Homegrown Taliban- friends.

mumblyjoe March 22, 2010 at 9:56 pm

I really do love the Republicans saying, “oh, we’re going to repeal the bill”, as though the presidential veto doesn’t exist. I mean, just as a practical matter. They are seriously hanging their hopes on the idea that they can win 2/3 of the House and Senate (when exactly *was* the last time one party had a supermajority in both the house and senate?), or regain the White House (with exactly zero appealing frontrunners in the picture to go against Hopey) before the actual provisions of health care kick in and people end up liking them, after all.

Let me repeat that. By saying, “we’ll repeal healthcare”, they think they can win supermajorities in both houses within the next 4 years, on a platform of “we act in bad faith to keep the Democrats from doing things”, or come up with someone to beat Obama in 2012, and they’re basically hanging everything on that. I mean, either that, or they really did forget about that even if they win majorities somehow, there’s this “veto” thing, or else they know, but don’t care at all and are just disingenuous fucks.

So… this is what’s know as a “rebuilding year”, huh?

heathenish March 22, 2010 at 10:34 pm

Since Bill Kristol’s 0 for 0 on the predition thing I’d say we’re probably doing pretty good. Why do people pay him to talk? It’s like money down a rat hole.

emjayay March 22, 2010 at 10:39 pm

[re=537380]ko.isabel[/re]: HEY MODERATOR! Here I am cruising along reading all the usual smart hilarious reader comments and all of a sudden here it is again, this mindless spam crap. C’mon, even one or two ruins the whole thing. And if they metastasize…you know, the broken window/windshield washer guy school of policing. Get on it PLEASE.

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