DEMOCRACY IS COMING TO THE USA  1:18 pm February 26, 2010

Most Americans Hate Government, Democracy Itself

by Ken Layne

But I'm stubborn as those garbage bags that time will cannot decay ...Important cable teevee station CNN has commissioned two (2) polls of the Americans, and the results are bad for the Tea Baggers’ beloved “U.S. Constitution” and “Democracy,” so it’s a good thing those people don’t actually like either of those things, when it leads to a common slave becoming the so-called “People’s President” who puts his feet on the desk. And yet … does anyone really love “democracy” anymore?

One of these funny surveys shows that 59% of Americans are let down by how this whole democracy thing works. CNN didn’t take the trouble to break this down based on party affiliation or voting record or demographics or anything, because who really cares, so it’s left to us to assume everyone, everybody, is kind of tired of democracy.

Why? Well, if you’re on the side of Obama’s big majority of 2008 and the even bigger Dem majorities in the Senate and House, you’re probably a little “let down” that a handful of wingnut rural senators (Ben Nelson, etc.) representing a tiny fraction of the population have somehow stopped all the shit you supported, like health care reform. WTF, right? And you probably never really got over that whole deal in 2000 when the Republican-controlled Supreme Court of the United States appointed somebody president even though this person lost the election. Ouch! Ha ha, and then we had eight straight years of horror and blood, and then the entire economy collapsed. Again.

And if you are an angry unemployed uneducated middle-aged rural/southern white person, what is up with a negro becoming president?! That’s not in the *original* Constitution, right?

So, we’re all pretty upset, if by “all” you mean “59% of the maybe 30% of adult Americans who pay any attention to this stuff at all.”

The other poll, commissioned by CNN and USA Today, finds that 56% of Americans who pay any attention to political shit are a-scared of the Federal Government a-takin’ away the guns and white women.

WHAT TO DO? There are so many ideas, if you read Atlantic Monthly or whatever, but the only reasonable outcome is a “benevolent dictator,” like Darth Vader, who is installed in a “bloodless coup,” and then everybody will be all “Heil Lord Vader” because what is this country, really, except a bunch of dumb Nazis looking for somebody to rule them with an iron, robot fist?

 

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{ 118 comments }

Aurelio February 26, 2010 at 1:23 pm

Monarchy might be better. Every once in a while, you get a good king.

PsycGirl February 26, 2010 at 1:24 pm

According to the CNN link, “63% of independents” and “nearly 7 out of 10″ Republicans are freaked out by Big Gubmint. Do Republicans not understand fractions so out of respect, CNN won’t apply fractions to them?

Zorg February 26, 2010 at 1:24 pm

As Winston Churchill observed, “The best argument against Democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.”

SayItWithWookies February 26, 2010 at 1:24 pm

It’s too bad that Saddam guy isn’t around to help us out. He was friends with Rumsfeld and Cheney, so he would’ve been a good leader in a time of crisis.

memzilla February 26, 2010 at 1:25 pm

Say, you know who else believed that democracy was a big fail…

Bowdoin February 26, 2010 at 1:25 pm

According to the Original Constructionists, them as believe, or pretend to, that nothing can be done after 1789 Constitutionally, Obama cannot be more than 3/5 president! That’s how much slaves counted back then. So.

Also, this all become clearer after three fifths of Jim Beam.

TGY February 26, 2010 at 1:26 pm

Today, we are all a retarded sofa kings or whatever.

proudgrampa February 26, 2010 at 1:26 pm

“Toute nation a le gouvernement qu’elle merite.”

(“Every nation has the government it deserves.”)

-Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821)

Lucidamente February 26, 2010 at 1:27 pm

We just need us some bipartisan gun control: turn in your firearm, get a white woman in exchange.

Serolf Divad February 26, 2010 at 1:27 pm

Sweet! I’m planning my coup as we speak.

4tehlulz February 26, 2010 at 1:28 pm

I don’t see the problem here; whenever the government goes out of control, especially when it goes over the edge and starts passing things by majority vote, totalitarianism is a perfectly logical response.

Ruhe February 26, 2010 at 1:28 pm

You suggest “benevolent dictator” in jest but what sort of result do you think CNN would get if they polled that idea, leaving out the Vader and Nazi analogies of course? I’m guessing some terrifyingly large percentage of those polled would be “cool with that”.

4tehlulz February 26, 2010 at 1:28 pm

[re=520810]PsycGirl[/re]: They polled only ten Republicans, so I think that’s understandable.

Aurelio February 26, 2010 at 1:29 pm

[re=520812]SayItWithWookies[/re]: Then when Saddam died, we would get his sons, Uday and Qusay, which would be cool, because they really knew how to party.

V572625694 February 26, 2010 at 1:30 pm

Leonard Cohen always has the right words for these things.

PsycGirl February 26, 2010 at 1:31 pm

[re=520830]4tehlulz[/re]: Hmmm…to get nearly 7 of those 10, at least one must have been a half-wit. OK, that works.

PsycGirl February 26, 2010 at 1:32 pm

[re=520822]Lucidamente[/re]: What they don’t know is that the white woman is Kathyrn Jean Lopez.

Bowdoin February 26, 2010 at 1:33 pm

You have to trust the public, no matter how dumb. I learned that in Civics and Advertising. Like, a poll circa January 1999. By over 60% in each case, the public believed (1) Clinton’s own private infidelities were nobody’s business and he should never be asked about them, and (2) he should fully and completely divulge every morsel of his affair at the earliest.

Democracy!

Vulpes82 February 26, 2010 at 1:33 pm

Gotta love how results that shot 59% of people who bothered to answer this dumb question are dissatisfied with the way our current system is “working” translates into “OMG AMERICUH TURNS ITS BACK ON DEMOCRACY” (I don’t mean by you, Ken, but by the other reporting I’ve seen on this survey). I mean, it’s just so SHOCKING that the American people should be discourage by our democracy as The World’s Greatest Deliberative Body degenerates into a bunch of toddlers having tantrums constantly and the Supreme Court rules that we should become even more of a corporatocracy than we already are tout suite, where one political party is steadily growing more insane by the day and the other can’t get its head out of its ass long enough to rule effectively. It boggles the mind.

Also, I guess no one knows any Winston Churchill bon mots anymore. Obama should never have taken that bust out of the Oval Office.

LittlePig February 26, 2010 at 1:33 pm

[re=520829]Ruhe[/re]: You mean President-For-Life Barack “The Islamic Shock” Hussein SuperAllah Obama?

FlownOver February 26, 2010 at 1:34 pm

[re=520815]Bowdoin[/re]: 5/6.

Bowdoin February 26, 2010 at 1:34 pm

[re=520822]Lucidamente[/re]: Hold it! What if that white woman is Linda Tripp?

No deal!

Bowdoin February 26, 2010 at 1:36 pm

[re=520829]Ruhe[/re]: Back in the sixties pollsters would routinely, it seemed, survey the public about such matters as the Bill of Rights, unlabeled, and find a heavy majority opposed.

madtowngooner February 26, 2010 at 1:36 pm

[re=520830]4tehlulz[/re]: If it was a Fox poll, it would been 11 republicans, cause 7 out of 11 is 70% in Fox Poll-land.

Cape Clod February 26, 2010 at 1:36 pm

Can’t we just find some child somewhere who is the reincarnation of Washington or Lincoln and make him President for Life and then keep repeating the process?

donner_froh February 26, 2010 at 1:36 pm

What does Jim Bunning have to say about this?

predilectrix February 26, 2010 at 1:37 pm

So, would these anti-Democracy opinions make them: 1) fascists, 2) marxists/communists, 3) Euro-sympathizing Tories, or 3) true Americans?

Read the Constitution! It’s only by overthrowing the shackles of the demos that we’ll find the true freedom of being overlorded.

queeraselvis v 2.0 February 26, 2010 at 1:37 pm

This just in: a clear plurality (9 out of 10) of flatulent pigfuckers from Koekuk, Iowa, believe that CNN’s polls are a crock of shit.

Lucidamente February 26, 2010 at 1:37 pm

[re=520847]Bowdoin[/re]: I was kinda hopin’ for Lucianne Goldberg myself.

Lascauxcaveman February 26, 2010 at 1:38 pm

As I’ve said before on the event of Ken Layne despair-rant, “Heh, It’s not funny, ’cause it true.”

Bowdoin February 26, 2010 at 1:39 pm

[re=520846]FlownOver[/re]: Thanks for the correction. I translated into 1955 dollars.

Magnus Maximus February 26, 2010 at 1:41 pm

IT’S CAESAR TIME, BITCHES

KevinKemp February 26, 2010 at 1:43 pm

I met Darth Vader once at the St. Patricks day parade. Firm handshake. Drinks Tullamore Dew through a straw. That got ugly. He said he voted for Nader, twice. He wouldn’t stop talking about it.

Come here a minute February 26, 2010 at 1:43 pm

[re=520852]donner_froh[/re]: “Tough shit.”

freakishlystrong February 26, 2010 at 1:44 pm

Can we start like, a “Cocktail Party”, made up of smart, snarky assholios, such as ourselves, to counterbalance the ignorant tea party fucks that seem to always participate in these polls?

And if not, at least we can get numbingly drunk so we don’t care anymore.

Extemporanus February 26, 2010 at 1:46 pm

The only poll I care about is small, safe, and full of Siemens.

“How favorably do I view Siemens?”

I’ll just say this: Given a choice between Democracy and Siemens, I’ll only turn my back on Siemens if a substantial sum of money is involved.

Bowdoin February 26, 2010 at 1:48 pm

[re=520855]Lucidamente[/re]: Well, were you Muslim, you’d have 700 virgins to choose from. Age not specified, so you’re left to wonder until it’s too late just why they’re still virgins.

Joshua Norton February 26, 2010 at 1:49 pm

Somebody has to read “Animal Farm” one more time. All the way to the end this time.

Ken Layne February 26, 2010 at 1:50 pm

[re=520849]Bowdoin[/re]: That is true, and yet you had a president who knew how to ramrod legislation through the Senate — a Senate heavy with actual, unrepentant racists at the time. And because of both the political skill and moral superiority of this fucked-up horse’s ass of a man, America got civil rights, public broadcasting, federal poverty aid, medicaid, environmental protection, medicare … all in a couple of years during one very troubled war-crazed administration.

Min February 26, 2010 at 1:51 pm

I find “benevolent dictator” to be a bit of an oxymoron, not that anyone who took that poll would know what it means.

Hooray For Anything February 26, 2010 at 1:52 pm

Oh man, I’ve been disillusion by our Democracy since before it was cool. Now that everyone is….I love our Democratic System!!!!!!

[re=520829]Ruhe[/re]: I think the last Administration proved that our country could probably be happy with a benevolent dictator.

Lucidamente February 26, 2010 at 1:54 pm

[re=520872]Bowdoin[/re]: Lucianne ain’t no virgin; son Jonah, though, you betcha.

Crank Tango February 26, 2010 at 1:56 pm

[re=520843]Vulpes82[/re]: No shit. By my count, 100% of the democrats in my household are completely fed up with the pussies representing them in congress, but that doesn’t mean we want Herr Cheney to be named Reichskanzler or some stupid star wars reference.

Ruhe February 26, 2010 at 1:57 pm

[re=520844]LittlePig[/re]: Wow, when you put it that way I guess I’m cool with it too. Maybe we could get close to 100% approval for Barry as pontifex maximus if he could arrange some sort of photo-op on board an aircraft carrier sporting a codpiece the size of a dinner plate. I know Chris Mathews would dig it.

FMA February 26, 2010 at 1:58 pm

[re=520876]Ken Layne[/re]: Lyndon Johnson wanted to get shit done and didn’t give a fuck about making friends. He didn’t need any friends. He had a dog. And he’d pick that fucker up by the ears.
I’m rambling…

FMA February 26, 2010 at 1:59 pm

[re=520877]Min[/re]: I think you meant to say “retarded dictator.”

Buzz Feedback February 26, 2010 at 2:00 pm

The streets shall flow with the blood of the non-believers.

Ducksworthy February 26, 2010 at 2:01 pm

[re=520877]Min[/re]: Does u meen to say that takin’ too mych oxy will make me a moran?

magic titty February 26, 2010 at 2:03 pm

[re=520876]Ken Layne[/re]: So…Barry should become a white asshole from Texas?

Mustang February 26, 2010 at 2:04 pm

We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

What a bunch of socialist commie crap.

Ruhe February 26, 2010 at 2:06 pm

[re=520849]Bowdoin[/re]: Yeah, I recall Mario Cuomo speaking before the Washington Press Club once and quoting a poll that showed that a majority of Americans polled thought that criminal suspects should be presumed guilty under the law. Depressing.[re=520878]Hooray For Anything[/re]: I suppose if you combined this sort of data with an efficient market hypothesis interpretation of our political culture you’d have to say that the market is shorting democracy.

[re=520878]Hooray For Anything[/re]: When Bush was running for his second term I would talk to my conservative relatives and get the impression that they were still so freaked out by 911 that they just wanted to elect the biggest bully they could find, someone who’d shoot first.

Lucidamente February 26, 2010 at 2:06 pm

[re=520876]Ken Layne[/re]: uh, huh-huh, you said “ramrod”

WadISay February 26, 2010 at 2:07 pm

The teabaggers would find it ironic that both they and Karl Marx are cheering for the withering away of the state.

Lucidamente February 26, 2010 at 2:07 pm

[re=520876]Ken Layne[/re]: But seriously, LBJ did all that stuff before the country got its collective lobotomy in the 1980s (USA! USA! USA!)

bitchincamaro February 26, 2010 at 2:07 pm

76% of all polls are BS. If there is to be fisting, I prefer that it be in my porn.

Thanks you.

McDuff February 26, 2010 at 2:18 pm

[re=520894]magic titty[/re]: No, he should become a half-white asshole from Kenya, Hawaii, and Chicago and get some shit done — he came make all the friends he wants AFTER he leaves office.

LaughingLark February 26, 2010 at 2:25 pm

freakishlystrong: I like the idea of a cocktail party! Sign me up! Actually, there’s a new group forming up that’s called The Coffee Party Movement. Just read about them in WaPo this morning.

blader February 26, 2010 at 2:31 pm

What we need is a hero to come along, something or someone like a Nigerian muleskinner to show us the way:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWGAdzn5_KU

doxastic February 26, 2010 at 2:32 pm

It never ceases to amaze me that when the media covers this “I’m afraid Obama will come for my guns” stuff (Hi Richard Poplawski!), they conveniently forget to mention that this is the NRA’s explicit lobbying strategy. A friend of mine lobbies for gun manufacturers (she’s a cynic, not a gun nut) and she said that as soon as it looked bad for McCain, the NRA started pouring money into preventative PR. All of these rumors about gun control coming down the pike come directly from the NRA headquarters. And it isn’t a secret. Their goal, of course, is to make the issue so radioactive that Obama doesn’t even consider the possibility of pushing increased regulation. And the manufacturers don’t even mind increased regulation (particularly on the secondary market, where they don’t see a dime), but they have to tow the NRA line.

Deacon Frank Orris February 26, 2010 at 2:41 pm

[re=520866]freakishlystrong[/re]: Your post is relevant to my interests. At least that last part, anyhow.

Vulpes82 February 26, 2010 at 2:41 pm

[re=520876]Ken Layne[/re]: If only Obama had spent another thirty years or whatever in the Senate and quite literally knew where the bodies were buried. You can’t tell me part of Johnson’s success wasn’t down to just plain old blackmail.

snideinplainsight February 26, 2010 at 2:43 pm

Sure hey, let’s have a benevolent dictator! But like, what if he totally sucks? We should have a chance to ditch him, not so often that he’s gotta act like Miss Popularity constantly, but just often enough – say, once every four years. And then, we should be able to pick somebody else, and stick ‘em in there, and see how they do, and uhh, and then…

What? Oh, right. Go figure -

freakishlystrong February 26, 2010 at 2:47 pm

[re=520938]Deacon Frank Orris[/re]: [re=520924]LaughingLark[/re]: BOTTOMZ UP!!1

Crank Tango February 26, 2010 at 2:47 pm

[re=520924]LaughingLark[/re]: whatever you do, don’t listen to me when I suggest a Cock & Cake Party, because we don’t actually have any cake.

davesnothere February 26, 2010 at 2:48 pm

[re=520898]WadISay[/re]: Yeah but teabaggers know irony like worms know sunscreen.

Cape Clod February 26, 2010 at 2:49 pm

[re=520866]freakishlystrong[/re]: I like that idea. I do it on my own and it would be nice to have some company.

Jerk Cade February 26, 2010 at 2:51 pm

[re=520930]doxastic[/re]: Okay, so what’s in it for the NRA if the manufacturers are cool? Where is their money coming from?

Cape Clod February 26, 2010 at 2:51 pm

[re=520898]WadISay[/re]: I think they would also find it ironic that they would find many of their views validated in “A People’s History of the United States.”

edgydrifter February 26, 2010 at 2:54 pm

Seeing as I already have a house full of white women and guns, I am totally prepared for our post-democracy hootenanny.

Big Liver February 26, 2010 at 3:00 pm

[re=520876]Ken Layne[/re]: Ken, thanks for the favorable notice of LBJ. I hated that his talents and ambitions were so trammelled by that hideous war.

freakishlystrong February 26, 2010 at 3:00 pm

Gaaahhhh!!! From the comments section:

IAM A MEMBER OF THE TEA PARTY IN AMERICA.TO MY KNOWLEDGE WE HAVE ABOUT 15-17 MILLION PEOPLE IN OUR MOVEMENT AND ARE GROWING EVERY DAY BY LEAPS AND BOUNDS.WHEN WE FIRST STARTED WE WERE TOLD BY EVERYONE WE COULD NOT SUCCEED IN TAKING OUR COUNTRY BACK FROM THE PROGRESSIVES.THE NEWS MEDIA CALLED US EVERY BAD NAME IT COULD THINK OF.WE WERE RIDICULED BY THE PROGRESSIVES AND TOLD TO SHUT UP AND SIT DOWN,BUT WE LOVED OUR COUNTRY AND WE WERE DETERMINED.WE BELIEVE IN OUR CONSTITUTION.WE HAVE NOW STARTED TO CHANGE OUR REPUBLICAN PARTY AND MOVE IT BACK TO IT’S CONSERVATIVE ROOTS.WE HAVE WON THE LAST THREE STATE ELECTIONS,EVEN IN MASS. WHICH WAS VERY LIBERAL.YOU ARE AT THE BEGINNING OF YOUR MOVEMENT AND MANY WILL TRY TO DEMORALIZE YOU AND TRY TO STOP YOU,BUT DO NOT LISTEN.YOU HAVE MANY , MANY SUPPORTERS OVER HERE,YOU ARE NO LONGER ALONE.WE HAVE BEEN ALLIES IN MANY BATTLES,AND WE ARE YOUR BROTHERS IN THIS TIME OF CRISES.YOU WILL FIND AS YOU GROW IN NUMBERS THAT THERE ARE MANY OTHERS WHO ARE SHARE YOUR BELIEFS AND ARE READY TO JOIN THE FIGHT.

All caps! Libruls! 15-17 million? What the fuck?
CARROLL

freakishlystrong February 26, 2010 at 3:04 pm

[re=520960]freakishlystrong[/re]: Gaaaahhh!! Wrong post idiot!

Sussemilch February 26, 2010 at 3:06 pm

Americans don’t like democracy because their idea of participating in the process is yelling at the TV and being shocked when no one they didn’t vote for doesn’t hear them.

Big Liver February 26, 2010 at 3:09 pm

[re=520960]freakishlystrong[/re]: WTF?? He wants to take the Republican party and “…MOVE IT BACK TO IT’S CONSERVATIVE ROOTS.” The party of Lincoln? That went to war (oversimplification here) in opposition to slavery? Could you get more liberal?

Hayworth for Prezident February 26, 2010 at 3:10 pm

Democracy only works with an educated populace.
We ain’t educated, so we ain’t gots it.

Snarkalicious February 26, 2010 at 3:14 pm

[re=520836]PsycGirl[/re]: 8 regs, 3 midgets and Rush Limbaugh’s favorite Dominican dick cozee.

Potater February 26, 2010 at 3:14 pm

[re=520960]freakishlystrong[/re]:
“15-17 MILLION PEOPLE IN OUR MOVEMENT”
I’ve taken bigger turds.

populucious February 26, 2010 at 3:16 pm

There’s only one solution, and we should have done it long ago: Anoint Ronald Reagan as King!

The Little Rock February 26, 2010 at 3:31 pm

Bloodless coup my ass. Anakin killed all the younglings (cringe).

FMA February 26, 2010 at 3:32 pm

[re=520979]populucious[/re]: I, for one, welcome our new zombie overlord. Brains for dinner!

llibra February 26, 2010 at 3:37 pm

[re=520872]Bowdoin[/re]: 700? I thought it was 72.

Crank Tango February 26, 2010 at 3:46 pm

[re=520960]freakishlystrong[/re]: Yeah they have a tendency to overestimate everything. I bet they all have ten inch peckers too, and they might if they could get an erection anymore.

Wedge February 26, 2010 at 3:57 pm

I like the Starship Troopers version of democracy myself. Wanna vote, have a baby or go to Harvard? Join the Mobile Infantry and kill all those goddamn bugs!

Flanders February 26, 2010 at 3:59 pm

[re=520851]Cape Clod[/re]: Quinn Hunter?

Lono65 February 26, 2010 at 4:01 pm

Fuck, isn’t it about time Barry fulfilled the Teabag Prophecy and seized power unconditionally? I was hoping that stupid meeting yesterday was the beginning…he had ‘em all rounded up in the same place, why didn’t he just frog-march them out the back door and machine gun them into a big pit? We all know he’s gonna do it sooner or later anyway…because that IS what we elected him to do, after all. So what’s the holdup?

Mad Brahms February 26, 2010 at 4:04 pm

“Rule with an iron fist”, heh. I hope you were considering Sideshow Bob as a possibly alternate graphic for this story.

edgydrifter February 26, 2010 at 4:05 pm

[re=520960]freakishlystrong[/re]: Teabaggers are going to be soooooo pissed when they discover Senator Playgirl isn’t one of them.

betterDeadThanRed February 26, 2010 at 4:37 pm

[re=520916]McDuff[/re]: He doesn’t need to make friends here. Obama already has a dog.

[re=520972]Hayworth for Prezident[/re]: That’s why the rpubs have been deconstructing public education for the last 30 years.

GOPCrusher February 26, 2010 at 4:55 pm

[re=520916]McDuff[/re]: That worked well for Jimmy Carter.

GOPCrusher February 26, 2010 at 5:00 pm

[re=521080]Lono65[/re]: Well the cuts of federal funding for ACORN has made it difficult to get up enough gas money for the buses required to start rounding them up and transporting them to the FEMA built concentration camps.

bebopluvr February 26, 2010 at 5:25 pm

[re=520838]PsycGirl[/re]: Actually, Amy Bishop is available for trade.

Jukesgrrl February 26, 2010 at 5:28 pm

It occurs to me that the increase in negativity toward democracy tracks neatly with disappearance of civics being taught in the public schools. It’s obvious that many people don’t even know what democracy IS. They certainly can’t define the differences between Communism, Fascism, and Socialism.

smitallica February 26, 2010 at 6:22 pm

65% of the American people also believe that God made the world in six days, 6000 years ago.
That’s because the American people are, for the most part, fucking idiots.

BarackMyWorld February 26, 2010 at 6:31 pm

[re=521160]Jukesgrrl[/re]: Except the average tea bagger seems to have grown up in the 1950s.

blinky_twinkie February 26, 2010 at 7:25 pm

That poll questioned a thousand people. That’s all. They’re extrapolating the views of a THOUSAND people onto the rest of us. I hate statistics.

Zadig February 26, 2010 at 7:48 pm

[re=520951]Jerk Cade[/re]: You mean besides membership fees, magazine subscriptions, businesses (manufacturers and retailers alike) willing to murder for an NRA endorsement, and all those gun shows? Not to mention the insane amounts of influence in both the economy and politics?

The NRA isn’t just an organization, it’s a fucking demographic.

zhubajie February 26, 2010 at 9:31 pm

Why would any sane man/woman want to be president, anyway?

zhubajie February 26, 2010 at 10:04 pm

Sarah Palin for dictator!

AddHomonym February 26, 2010 at 10:24 pm

[re=521235]zhubajie[/re]: That’s why they have all been lizard people for years now. This is well known.

Wingnutia February 26, 2010 at 10:43 pm

Yep the comments on CNN.com confirm my suspicions over this poll. Every single comment in favor of these results is from some wingnutted, tea baggin’, dubya lovin’, beckerheaded tardlicon. Seriously, I find it hilarious that these guys spent eight years ROLLING their eyes and accusing anyone who objected to the Bush admin’s PATRIOT ACT’s erosion of our rights, warrantless domestic wiretapping or the “unitary executive” project’s centralization of power of being a terrorist, communist or both. Yet now that Great Cowboy Retardo has gone back to his fake ranch and the other party is in power….fear the gubermint! they’s takin’ away our guns an bibles an making us speak ebonics and has the butt secks with men, not sheeps er ar sister! (they’re curious about that, secretly of course) fucking morons…god I hate this country sometimes. Anyway I don’t think this poll proves anything other than the infectious retardation of Reaganism/Rand. Oh sure, the government which has a bureacracy run by people who make little money and are boring is more threatening than a corporation which has a bureacracy run by people who get bonuses for “hiding the bodies” (ask Toyota) is less threatening…privatize it all! stupid fucking inbred knuckledraggers. Also

Wingnutia February 26, 2010 at 10:57 pm

Yeah, I guess I haven’t quite finished yet, but seriously, the nerve of these fucking knuckledraggers. I spent years, years people arguing with wingnuts that Bush renditioning people to places that torture, and invading other countries over lies, and withdrawing as much power back into the executive as had been seized after Watergate and having little douchebags like John Yu write memos saying he could torture (hell John Yu said Bush could legally commit genocide if he felt like it and attack american cities to boot) and warrantless wiretapping, and checking library logs and book stores and monitoring websites not just for al qaeda-related material but also for leftist materials was a threat to liberty; no sale. I was a fucking terrorist or saddam sympathizer for daring to question anything bush did…Cheney’s secret energy meetings and undisclosed locations and trumping up phony intel run through the pentagon for war, and outing CIA agents for political revenge and threatening people with political retribution and real retribution if they told how much the drug benefit would really cost and on and on and on all the lies and lies…that was PRO-FREEDOM! Obama on the other hand wanting to help these selfsame ignoramuses get healthcare so they can see a doctor for their distended anuses…that’s TOTALITARIAN! These morons think enlarging the bureacracy is totalitarian but enlarging the military and CIA and developing deadlier weapons protects freedom! fucking morons! Ugh, I need a fucking drink…these people..

loverevolution February 26, 2010 at 11:49 pm

[re=521251]Wingnutia[/re]: Tell it, brother. Testify!

That’s thirty years of free-market propaganda at work. The only thing trickling down is warm and yellow.

It’s time for freethinkers to fight back. Resist the Murdochian mind control.

Bowdoin February 26, 2010 at 11:50 pm

[re=520881]Lucidamente[/re]: I once knew of a lady who was middle-aged and not one you would hit upon even if you’d been in prison for many years, and she used to play virginity as volition, as in, nobody was gonna take advantage of her, no, sirreee. It’s like how down south, the yokels extol ignorance as the virtue of Common Sense. It’s all they have, so they might as well sell it.

Bowdoin February 26, 2010 at 11:51 pm

[re=521025]llibra[/re]: They were running out of psychos. Inflation, you know.

Carpe Diem February 27, 2010 at 1:13 pm

What happened to ‘proud to be an American’?? I suspect many of you have no lives, labeling each other, IE: wingnuts, gopcrusher,(really creative)ETC. Many of you need to learn how to express yourselves w/o the expletives. (very lowbrow and uneducated) We live in the greatest country in the world. You don’t like it, leave. But no, you would rather stay and live off the excess our government provides idiots. Or, you could get a real job, run for office in your own community and try to make changes. Do I like Obama, since I don’t know him personally, harbor no ill will toward him as an individual. However, as my President, have no respect for his policies and the huge burden he has created on the American public. Obama has created such a major debt, we will never see it end in our lifetime. His job stimulus failed, the health care program is a joke and he has made a mockery of the position of POTUS! Bowing to the Saudi King of Arabia was an insult to all Americans. He does have two years remaining in office and I welcome any changes he can make that will help our country once again gain prosperity and gainful employment. Should he do that, along with ending this war, he may get re-elected. Even those who supported him originally, will not vote for him in 2012. As for the Democrats power in Congress, they will soon be history, their behavior has insured that. Pelosi and Reid will not be around much longer. We have much work to do in repairing the damage they have done.

PsycGirl February 27, 2010 at 4:35 pm

[re=521312]Carpe Diem[/re]: That’s satire so good that it almost seems real.

Darkness February 27, 2010 at 4:59 pm

[re=521312]Carpe Diem[/re]: Sanctioning the rich to suck the lifeblood out of the country was Obama. Oh, yeah baby. Repeat it enough times on Fox News, I’m sure the morons will believe it.

Meanwhile back in reality where facts fucking matter, as a fraction of GDP and taking the social security surplus lie-about-spending-like-a-crack-whore back out, no president can top Reagan for deficits. Not even close. So, were you bitching and whining like a titty baby through the eighties? I fucking was. I bet you were too busy fapping off to Raygun’s raping of Central America to get around to noticing his economic rape right here at home. And the deficit is nothing compared to unfunded mandates, and for unfunded mandates no democrat can top the republican medicare drug plan (i.e., yet another wealth concentration program for congress’s buddies in industry).

And here we are, trying to stave off a fucking depression caused by 30 years of republican policy from reagan through the contract on america through bush ignoring wholesale fraud at every level of banking and finance and NOW you want to whine about government spending? You’re so fucking brilliant, you must wonder why everyone around you doesn’t constantly acknowledge your astute solution of putting the same fucking idiots who caused the mess back in to solve it. My god. Why hasn’t anyone thought of that?

AKAM80TheWolf February 27, 2010 at 6:45 pm

Someone dig up the corpse of Augustus, we need a real dictator.

VARE LEGIONES REDDE

Carpe Diem February 27, 2010 at 6:53 pm

Darkness, look in the mirror! In the Reagan years, we all had money, bought new homes, jobs that allowed us to live comfortably, what were you doing? Are we in a depression, absolutely, easy to blame past Presidents now they are now longer in office. As for my brilliance, it allows me to see the through the rhetoric splashed about by those who do nothing but complain and make useless noise. Try working hard to become part of the system, be it Democrat or Republican. Be surprised at what a little initiative can do. What are you doing to quote “stave off a (expletive deleted) depression caused by 30 years, etc…? The past is history, cannot be changed. While Obama is attempting to make changes history will only tell us how he did. What will you and your friends have to say 30 years from now? Still spewing nonsensical rhetoric to hear yourselves make noise???

HuddledMass February 27, 2010 at 7:44 pm

[re=521390]Carpe Diem[/re]: You’re joking right? But you’re not very funny.

plowman February 27, 2010 at 8:14 pm

[re=521390]Carpe Diem[/re]: Goddammit, I’m probably the Chief of Reaganites around this shithole and even I will call bullshit on that, it’s easy to look back through rose-colored glasses. It’s free-market-perfection extremist fairytales that have brought us to where we are now, face it, the ‘free market’ will sell your/my/their grandmother for dogmeat by the pound.

ladymacbeth February 27, 2010 at 8:45 pm

[re=521388]AKAM80TheWolf[/re]: HA! i love me some octavius. and he had a census and good wars and kicked lots of non-xtian ass and tots destroyed that dark skinned trollop and her libtard lover.

this guy could be good for US america.

matineeidol February 28, 2010 at 12:08 pm

i for one am in favor of a government coupe. would it be like cash for clunkers?

olegonzo February 28, 2010 at 12:10 pm

“The words democracy, socialism, freedom, patriotic, realistic, justice have each of them several different meanings which cannot be reconciled with one another. In the case of a word like democracy, not only is there no agreed definition, but the attempt to make one is resisted from all sides. It is almost universally felt that when we call a country democratic we are praising it: consequently the defenders of every kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they might have to stop using that word if it were tied down to any one meaning. Words of this kind are often used in a consciously dishonest way. That is, the person who uses them has his own private definition, but allows his hearer to think he means something quite different.”

- George Orwell, “Politics and the English Language” (1946)

plowman February 28, 2010 at 12:22 pm

[re=521486]olegonzo[/re]: Amen, people love to hurl ‘fascist’ around when any three of them couldn’t agree on a definition beyond ‘Dick Cheney’.

Cranky Old Batt February 28, 2010 at 8:08 pm

[re=521390]Carpe Diem[/re]: we did none of those things you hallucinated. I very, very vividly remember living in poverty and triple digit inflation. Must be nice to live on your planet.

loverevolution March 1, 2010 at 11:34 pm

Fascism is a Corporate State.
Our government is completely controlled by corporate interests.
We live in a fascist state.

Time to wake up, people!

Ronny Reagan was always a bad actor and corporate shill.
Bush Junior was always a vacuous, emotionally-retarded sociopath.
It’s important to get these facts straight.
It’s important to see history clearly.

Don’t be fooled by rhetoric, think for yourself.

JSB March 5, 2010 at 2:26 pm

Funny! In John Kennedy Toole’s novel ” A Confederacy of Dunces”, the main character, Ignatius J. Reilly, denounces democracy, and prompts the idea of having a monarchy/King to govern the country. It makes one wonder, hmmmm… Someone needs to step up to plate, who has ethics, and get this run away frieght train under control

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