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65 comments

  1. Monsieur Grumpe

    You know, if it was different by a few points I wouldn’t be surprised. 2% to 30%! Who are they polling?

  2. gurukalehuru

    14% of Americans don’t know what the word gay means. Probably because U.S. Americans don’t have dictionaries, such as.

  3. Pithaughn

    Silly Wonks, homosexuals have wierd disgusting sex and are trying to recruit children. Gays and Lesbians design sets and costumes for the local community theater.

  4. charlesdegoal

    Fear of sex and most of all anal penetration. Why We Are (Were) in Vietnam and now perhaps why we are in Iraq and Afghanistan. Nobody fucks (with) American!

  5. SayItWithWookies

    The weirdest part about this is that the two columns of numbers each add up to the same amount — 86%. Which means that the only ones not confused by the nomenclature are the undecideds. Okay, now I have a headache.

  6. pampl

    [re=511553]martinette[/re]: they really should have seen how those terms stacked up against Carpet Muncher and Ass Pirate

  7. Citizen Kitteh

    I’m suspecting that when “homosexuals” is used, most people are thinking solely of gay men. But when “gay men and lesbians” is used, it reminds people that women are being affected by DADT as well.

  8. inedalo

    if they asked the Q this way: “should TEH GAYS who are patriotic god-loving americans want to defend their country by serving in the military, would you support this?” the wouid get closer to 86% of americans supporting this, incl. rednecks from all the red states.
    n.b.- I am former Census Bureau employee and know how to write these damn questionnaires…

  9. WadISay

    If you asked, should known thespians be permitted in combat units, you would probably get about the same results.

  10. Hooray For Anything

    [re=511590]teebob2000[/re]: “women’s softball player” vs. “broadway musical enthusiast”

  11. JMP

    [re=511594]Citizen Kitteh[/re]: It’s also not surprising because middle American morans know from their stereotypes that gay men are all mincing weaklings who can’t fight; but lesbians are all big, butch muscular athletes who you’d want on a battlefield.

  12. dijetlo

    Heterosexual men love lesbians. They understand us. They are our sisters-in-arms in the endless struggle between the sexes.
    Think of it this way, what other woman ever has to say
    ‘Yes I love you, yes I respect you. Now, just shut up and put it in your mouth’
    I think we ought to start referring to all homosexuals as “lesbians”, it’ll solve our equality problems lickity split

  13. comicbookguy

    I bet if the enemy saw Rosie O’Donnell charging up that hill with bayonet fixed and full-throated battle cry, we’d win this war.

    Larry Craig would be hiding in the barracks men’s room.

  14. Extemporanus

    [re=511583]SayItWithWookies[/re]: Blacks represent nearly 14% of the U.S. population. Coincidence? To believe so would be dangerously naïve, and display a self-defeating sense of ignorance.

    First, it was Prop 8. Now, this poll. I’m loathe to even imagine what they might target next.

    Why do those people hate those people so much? Why can’t those people all just get along, in the butt or the vagina or the ear or wherever it is that non-black homosexual lesbians stick things for the sole enjoyment of masturbating males?

    Wanda Sykes, the wholly symbolic sense of raco-sexual harmony evoked by your dyke-y black ass is needecd as never before! Spit out that dental dam! Unplug that drilldo! Get that fist out of your cock locker!

    Heed the call, Wanda! Your retarded fucking homophobic racist nation needs you!

  15. El Pinche

    Bill Hicks did this bit years ago on the grade school books, Daddy’s New Roommate and My Two Mommies. But it was a joke , not a poll for retards.

  16. dijetlo

    [re=511633]TGY[/re]: It’s a just a question of marketing, I’m surprised nobody thought of it before. As we’ve learned from conservatives, the de-clarification of the English language is often the key to getting what you want.
    Consider for a moment Chinese has no pronoun for him or her, just a generic “them” so when you look at it on that level, we’d just be currying favor with our Overlords.

    [re=511641]cj4[/re]: Sometimes, you have to give to get.

  17. Ducksworthy

    [re=511562]Pithaughn[/re]: In Ameruka branding is everthin. Gays and Lesbians ok, Faggots and Dykes not so much. Also Articulate Black Man, good KenyanSocialistMuslin, bad

  18. Autoo

    [re=511582]hedgehog[/re]: EVERYBODY, but everybody loves lesbians.

    - The lesbians (obviously) love lesbians for reason that are self evident

    - The straight men love lesbians because they love to see two chicks make out

    - The straight women and the gay men love lesbians because they can repair their Subarus

  19. Heywood Jablome

    [re=511594]Citizen Kitteh[/re]: Which is exactly what Jimmy N’s pithy and trenchan analysis is saying, right?

    Good job Wonketeers! You’ve dug down deep for every analogous pair of alterntives for the original question.

    Three loud and inappropriate office snort/laughs to you!

  20. Don'

    I think their thinking went something like: ‘Hey I’m not a a bigot. I’m OK with those Gays and Lesbians. But HOMOSEXUALITY is a sin. No sir I am not OK with that.’

  21. One Yield Regular

    [re=511692]Cheney Guevara[/re]: Or rather *double* tours of duty, like in the old joke about the one-eyed guy who argues at the cinema ticket booth that he should only have to pay half-price since he can only see half the movie, but the ticket guy charges him double since he’ll have to sit through the movie twice to see it all.

  22. bhosp

    I think, in Real America, the hierarchy of “Who do you think should be in the military?” goes something like this:
    Straight Man > Lesbian Woman > Straight Woman > Gay Man

    And I think the hierarchy of “Who would you rather share a foxhole with?” hierarchy definitely goes like this:
    Straight Woman > Lesbian Woman > Straight Man > Gay Man

    I think you put those together, then remind someone that you’re keeping out all those badass lesbian shitkickers along with all the limp-wristed faggots, and you get this spectacular poll.

  23. AliBabaInBA

    “Gay Men” are just nice guys who sometimes exhibit effeminate mannerisms, haven’t yet met the right girl, are great for knowing just the right recipes for a dinner party, and understand a woman’s feelings. Lesbians are usually lovely spinsters — but, let’s face it, sometimes bitter and angry — who really should be happy with each others’ company …poor dears. Homosexuals are the ones who spit in the face of GOD and use the lubricant stuff and litter the parks with those condoms!!
    But, yes, my homeland has the most willfully stupid people on the planet.

  24. Wonderman

    Lemme tell you, they wuz no homersextuals in Veet Nom. They was just boys who liked to suck a dick. Ain’t nuthin’ wrong with that.

  25. vespula maculata

    This is perhaps the most sublime microcosm one could wish of the very stupidity that got Bush two terms.

  26. Rajul

    I agree with both polls. I want my male soldiers to be happy and my female soldiers to be carpet munchers, but no homos.

  27. Asa Hawks

    Stop making me laugh so early in the morning. I have to believe that some poor self-loathing soul at Fox news wants their viewers to look as stupid as possible, because the alternative is too terrifying.

  28. MOG

    When I was growing up it was, people like “Aunt Kathryn and that lovely young man down the street with the beautiful garden?” Quite a mouthful.

  29. iolanthe

    @MOG: When I was growing up during the 1950s, my mother called these two households “The Confirmed Bachelors” and “The New England Sisters.” And both households had lovely gardens, I might add.

    One of the Confirmed Bachelors taught drama at the high school.
    His partner played the organ at our Episcopal Church.
    One of the New England Sisters taught girls’ P.E.
    Her partner managed the local music store.

    They were all friends of our family, people we would greet at church, people who would come over to the house for this or that church or family occasion.

    And yet, my father still railed against homosexuality, so vehemently he would start spitting and his jowls would shake. He was cool about people being Atheists, but the very fact of homosexuality’s existence made him rage, and damned near cry.

    My mother was a bit more worldly. I’d sometimes catch her rolling her eyes when he’d talk like that.
    I suspect my father truly had no idea that any of these people were gay.
    My mother never clued him in.

    Whenever I hear some Teabagger insisting that they don’t know *any* homosexuals, I remember my Dad, and smile quietly to myself. Sigh …

  30. Chuckie Jesus

    [re=511628]BigDupa: “Would you be ok if Rosie O’Donnell or Larry Craig were fighting in Iraq?”[/re]:

    You mean like the Ali/Foreman fight? HELLS TO THE YEAH.

    RUMBLE IN THE JUNGLE II: The Hurt-a in Al Shurrta

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