Well, it’s “new” and “terrible” at least, which is why one should assume America’s beloved Democrats will run with it: “A top Senate Democrat on Friday suggested lawmakers ‘take a breather for a month, six weeks’ from healthcare reform. Sen. Chris Dodd (Conn.) told reporters the much-needed break would allow lawmakers to focus on other issues before the chamber, the AP first reported.” Jesus, they are just dying to run away from this thing, aren’t they?
These freaking people. No one will be able to “focus on other issues” until they resolve this. It’s nice that Barry wants to revamp his image and listen to Paul Volcker about breaking up or restricting the size of banks. It’s nice that he’s in Ohio right now saying blue collar words like “jobs” and “a bill for jobs.” Maybe he’ll even fire Tim Geithner, which would really be an easy, popular thing for him to do.
But did you notice how his announcement yesterday that he wishes to BREAK APART THE BIGGEST WALL STREET FIRMS, something that (a) WOULD ROCK OUR SOCKS! but (b) has about a -2% chance of succeeding because (c) it would involve Congress which (d) is the worst institution in the history of the universe, was greeted with no one giving a shit about it because they’re focused on health care still? If he actually wants to “take on the Fat Cats” in a meaningful way, that’s going to require some serious message discipline, day in and day out, until one or more chambers of Congress randomly declares it dead five seconds before a final vote that’s ensured for passage.
The point is Chris Dodd is wrong because why ignore it for six weeks, JESUS. What should this guy care anyway? He’ll be on a warm, Connecticut beach slappin’ asses this time next year.
Dodd: Time to take a ‘breather’ on health care [The Hill]
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The Senate needs to get back to basics. And bipartisanship. Time to pass a Capital Gains Tax Cut.
Jim, you sound like a native nutmegger! In Connecticut, it’s all about slapping asses on a warm beach in the middle of January.
How else can they get in more shouty Town Halls and wingnut talking heads about to explode? Drag it on boys. The WSJ still has a bunch more lies to print up about HCR, and they DO pay his bills.
Ok, I’d really like to thank whoever was responsible for the alt text there. Really, that was the best laugh of my day. Sincerely.
Maybe we Democratic voters should consider some threats of recalls.
Congress should just put out a press release that says “We have decided to take a breather from any controversial legislation because we want to play with a ball of yarn in the corner. Also, we need to see whether the corporations are going to come to us or we have to go to them for all these billions that are supposed to be flowing our way. We’re hoping it’s the former.”
I hope he remembers to wear muffins whenever he slaps asses in this kind of weather.
My first thought after I heard that Dodd wasn’t running for re-election was “Good — now he won’t be beholden to his corporate donors and he can be the actual man with some integrity who’s been dying to get out under that chickenshit suit he’s been wearing.” Lo and behold, he takes off the chickenshit suit and beneath it is — another guy in a chickenshit suit. And I’m pretty sure it’s guys in chickenshit suits all the way down.
A lame duck taking up a Republican idea! Sounds like a winner to me!!!
I would say someone gave a shit. The Dow was down 214 yesterday and 217 today. Those boys are not only giving shits, they’re emitting them in their pants.
Why are all Connecticut’s Senators cross-dressing freaks? They put on their Democrat dresses every morning but underneath? Republican dicks.
I think by “take a breather” he means “wait until I’m fucking out of here and let some other schmoe deal with this mess. Later suckers.”
Six weeks? Why don’t they just throw in the towel then, and while they’re at it, admit there’s not a spine among them. Also.
the esteemed senator has a conflict of interest. he already has a healthcare plan he doesn’t need to reform; therefore, he has no incentive to fix what, for him, is not broken. case closed. nothing to see here, folks, move on.
Sure, what the fuck, take 6 weeks. Whatever.
Who is writing the Democrats’ talking points? Did someone open the Chamber of Secrets and let Bob Shrum out? (if so, why wasn’t he buried terra-cotta-warrior style with the 2004 Kerry campaign?)
Dodd: Erring fool!
[re=499825]SayItWithWookies[/re]: Chickenshit Matryoshka is my new band name.
[re=499826]Crankenstank[/re]: booooya
To be fair, isn’t ’6 weeks’ Senator-ese for ‘this fucking second’. They’re not fast moving creatures.
Maybe he’ll even fire Tim Geithner, which would really be an easy, popular thing for him to do.
You forgot “fun”. At this point I bet that would be a lot of fun, too.
So they haven’t drug this thing out long enough? They began with a huge public approval rating, then they kept dragging their feet while the Dems were all trying to feel up Olympia Snowe and Sara Palin started shouting “Death panels! Death panels!” and the ratings dropped. Then the approval dropped further and further as the months dragged by and the ludicrous Max Baucus hemmed and hawed and started showing up stinking drunk everywhere and complaining about the all-powerful Republican Superminority.
Now the asshats want to just randomly interject delays so the approval ratings for healthcare reform can further plummet. Then at the end of the month-long delay (which will last three months), during which Fox News will pump out more “reasons” for panic in the streets, further driving down approval,the Dems will come back and say “Huh? Health care reform? Oh yeah, what ever happened to that. It will take us a while to get back up to speed and — oh looky, people hate the idea!
And these are the ones who are supposed to be protecting the people from the special interests. We. Are. So. Fucked.
No one trusts a grown man who still gets self-potraits from JC Penney photo department. Good bye Dodd. F off now.
1. Chris Dodd is the Senator from Aetna.
2. Barack Obama is the President from Citigroup.
The End.
I don’t think i’ve ever been so fervently in favor of an actual fucking Progressive party as I am at this moment.
But with the court ruling yesterday, I think I’d rather just finish my foreign language degree and skip town. Or country, as it were. Fuck this plutocracy. You don’t have to be perfect, Japan. You don’t even have to be very GOOD. I’ll settle for a different set of national flaws for a few years.
[re=499852]El Pinche[/re]: Senator SuperCuts … Also
Speaking of bad ideas, Dame Pegetha: “Morning in America 2.0″ http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703699204575017503811443526.html?
“focus on other issues before the chamber” = get back to renaming post offices in honor of some schmuck.
That’s fine with me. I’ll just tell my Pre-existing Condition to take the next 6 weeks off.
[re=499850]PickneyPinchback[/re]: Seriously. I’ve been wondering for the past six months or so if the Senate Democrats realize that everybody thinks they’re a clown show or that thousands of articles have been written this ending “….as great of an idea that it is, it won’t matter anyways because it’ll die in the Senate.” Even the House hates them. They’re every incompetent manager you’ve ever had who takes months of hard work on your part and who sits on it for months and then screws it all up when they get to acting upon it but still thinks they’re the best boss in the world. They’re like the Michael Scott of congressional bodies.
Can it really get any worse than this Conneticut dirtbag? Yeah, take six weeks off, go on a Caribbean vacation or something, who cares, just forget why in the hell you were elected in the first place, it doesn’t mean crap anyway. And BTW, next time reelection rolls around, I’ll park those e-mails begging for money in my Junk folder, and who knows, maybe six weeks after the election I’ll get around to sending you something.
Yeah, take 6 weeks off from this. Maybe it will just go away. Useless. Remember when this was going to be done by August? That was awesome.
[re=499830]gjdodger[/re]: indeed!
adding, it’s a bit like they are holding our retirement portfolios hostage– at that’s what I feel like.
Dodd wants to get back to Banking Committee oversight and make sure anyone who can fog a mirror can get a mortgage again reeeaaal soon…
Look at that picture.
Look at it long and hard.
What you’re seeing is Obama’s RADICAL future agenda of SOCIALIZED haircuts!
Now ask yourselves, is this what you want for your children?
[re=499825]SayItWithWookies[/re]: “Good — now he won’t be beholden to his corporate donors”
Actually now the payoff is after they leave office. So they have to be good little boys right to the end. The old style of corruption involving envelopes of money was actually less corrupt than what we have now.
[re=499841]gurukalehuru[/re]: Jeez, maybe 6 isn’t long enough. 8 maybe?
(c) it would involve Congressthe Senate which (d) is the worst institution in the history of the universe
FTFY.
[re=499878]bhosp[/re]: Dur you can’t do strikethrough in comments dur. Whatever. Strike out “Congress” there.
[re=499862]BlueStateLibtard[/re]: except, during the Bush years, he was actually a beacon of sanity and even progressiveness… don’t know what happened to him here though.
Health Care is not a basic human right that belongs to the teaming masses, it is a privilege reserved for the wealthy (like adequate legal representation or a summer beach house in the Hamptons). Why don’t the Democrats ever “get” that?
This will make Olympia “Too Fast!” Snowe happy. And isn’t that what the Democratic Party is all about?
GET BACK TO STEROIDS IN BASEBALL !!1!
Sure, take the time off from the pesky health care reform issue so Congress can focus on easier issues like reforming the financial system, getting the sluggish economy to generate some jobs, deal with global warming, immigration…great idea, Senator Dodd.
Seriously, call us when you’re back from your “rest…”
Coward. Coward, coward, coward, coward.
[re=499883]Way Cool Larry[/re]: As soon as there was a remote possibility some of his ideas might be acted upon, Angelo yanked his leash and made sure he kept his business in the corporate kennel.
Words fail me when I contemplate Chris “Friend of Angelo” Dodd and his “good idea”.
[re=499825]SayItWithWookies[/re]: Turtles?
[re=499893]dijetlo[/re]: who’s Angelo???
Geez, it took the Dems just a few quick months to fold like like cheap cameras and let Chimp in Chief invade Iraq and spend a few zillion dollars, and now they’re quaking in their boots because the health-insurance might have to accept pre-existing conditions. I’m going to retreat to my library, tell the maid to stoke up the fire, and get pissed all night. And keep drinking.
All I can say is it’s too bad for Chris Dodd that Herve Villechaize is gone.
Anyone? Anyone?
ah, probably this:
“Condé Nast Portfolio reported allegations that in 2003 Dodd had refinanced the mortgages on his homes in Washington, D.C. and Connecticut through Countrywide Financial and had received favorable terms due to being placed in the “Friends of Angelo” VIP program, so named for Countrywide CEO Angelo Mozilo. Dodd received mortgages from Countrywide at allegedly below-market rates on his Washington, D.C. and Connecticut homes.[29] Dodd had not disclosed the below-market mortgages in any of six financial disclosure statements he filed with the Senate or Office of Government Ethics since obtaining the mortgages in 2003.[30]”
Is there any senator who is not a scumbag?
Feingold is good on some things, but doesn’t seem to carry any weight.
The one Senator I thought was honest was Paul Wellstone– and the evil fuckers knocked him off before he could vote against the Iraq war.
[re=499901]Crank Tango[/re]: ZING!
If they don’t take a breather on health care right now how are they going to be able to focus on taking a breather on all the other important issues out there? People get your priorities straight.
[re=499861]Hooray For Anything[/re]: They’re like the Michael Scott of congressional bodies.
Well put, sir. It reminds me of that episode of The Office where Micahel announced to the staff tha the had a surprise for them that day. Of course he had no plans for a surprise. Eventually it’s past 5:00 and everyone is standing around waiting for the surprise and he just stands there, smiling and delaying. So one by one the employees just leave.
Obama showed us the shiny object and Congress lost it in the men’s room at a highway rest stop. They were going to go try to find it, but hey, the Republicans won’t help them, and it’s getting dark out there…
Fuck them all.
[re=499822]bureaucrap[/re]: As someone who plays with lots of balls of yarn, I say to Congress: hands the fuck off the yarn. Pass HCR.
And Chriss Angel Dodd — isn’t he a LAME DUCK??? So why are we listening to this asshole?
Back to my yarn, and my liquor cabinet. I hear it might snow this weekend.
[re=499822]bureaucrap[/re]: 1,000+ pages of the health care bill will make for a fine scratching post. also.
[re=499905]shortsshortsshorts[/re]: thank you, thank you. I ‘d like to thank all the little people who made this moment possible.
“Congress” is both houses, when really it’s the Senate that’s 9/11-y Hitleresque cancer. Of course, that’s because it’s the easiest investment for businesses to make (100 members, some representing states with sufficiently low populations where less money is still impactful). Congressional districts are so gerrymandered, and the biennial elections mean they are too “attentive” to the voters’ ever-changing whim, but that can be fixed with an election law and smarter voters. I’m sure yesterday’s SCOTUS ruling will help both occur!
[re=499860]Suds McKenzie[/re]: +1/win
[re=499902]Way Cool Larry[/re]: …any senator who is not a scumbag? Yes, one. Bernie Sanders, the socialist, of course. When all the other Senators were demanding bribes for their states in exchange for a health care vote, Sanders’ bribe was extra money for poor people’s community health clinics across the country.
Two hours of overwrought ballads and pained expressions–haven’t the Haitians suffered enough?
Way OT, but too important not to break in: Twats
infrom space![re=499921]stew[/re]: Apparently, now it’s our turn.
[re=499921]stew[/re]: I guess it would be in poor taste to live-blog wonkette-style?
I swear, up to this point I’ve been trying to see things from the Dems point of view. I mean, yes the Republicans are so damn nasty, and yes the Blue Dogs are pains in the ass, and yes the bill is imperfect but it’s what got the votes, and yes Obama isn’t god and can’t fix everything from the executive branch.
But ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ASSHOLES. Just pass the damn bill. Or if you’re going to wait for Brown to be seated, then at least force the Republicans to filibuster the damn thing, or quorum it or whatever. Make them EARN their blood for a change, dammit!
And FUCK YOU CHRIS DODD.
Ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh. UGH.
[re=499921]stew[/re]: That would require them slackards having that latest scientific novelty, electricty.
******
In other news:
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201001220031
Beck, Goldberg suggest Hitler was a liberal
January 22, 2010 5:14 pm ET
From the January 22 edition of Fox News’ Glenn Beck:
[Video]
Isn’t “taking a break” in the same spirit as “let’s be friends” and actually means I never want to see your sorry ass again?
This may not bode well for our socialist health care comrades.
Its going to take this loser that long to hide evidence and pack all those suitcases with cash.
Who are all these celebrities on the Haiti tee vee thing?
I don’t know any of them.
[re=499901]Crank Tango[/re]: The Senate needs a little breather.
They won’t get anything till they agree to pay BIG to Xtn faith-healers of the Benny Hinn variety. They’ve already agreed to pay Christian Science practioners, haven’t they? It violates church-state seperation, but who cares about that any more? GW Bush’s experiments with the Health and Wealth Gospel have been so successful!
[re=499926]Cicada[/re]: Right there with ya. As a wise man once said, do or do not, there is no try.
[re=499927]S.Luggo[/re]: Well, of course– only liberals kill millions and millions of people. Conservatives, on the other hand, wear clothes with a bald eagle crying on it, stand in front of walls and shout for them to be torn down. Or support a bunch of narcoterrorists who slaughter nuns. Either one
[re=499927]S.Luggo[/re]: Wait, does that mean Dodd is a liberal? Because I thought he was just a Repug in a chickenshit suit.
[re=499932]rocktonsammy[/re]: I was OK until the white guy started with the hipping and hopping. I suppose I should know who he is? Oh wait–it’s the U2 crew…
The photo looks like a pet chameleon I once had.
[re=499856]Zadig[/re]: China’s a lot of fun.
[re=499928]Cranky Old Batt[/re]: “taking a break” also means I want to fuck you when I feel like it, but not owe you anything. And you shouldn’t get your hopes up.
At least he’s being honest I guess.
Wow, I didn’t even know about the Hope for Haiti thing. I was watching Bill O’Reilly talk about how high is ratings were.
[re=499933]Norbert[/re]: The Senate needs a little breather.
This is the best idea I’ve heard all week. If the Honorable Senators are too tired to work, they should just rubber-stamp any bills that are passed in the House.
[re=499947]Escape Goat Nation[/re]: Typical liberal media bias–I bet they didn’t even invite Rush Limbaugh to present his case for just letting the Haitians die.
[re=499901]Crank Tango[/re]: Too soon.
[re=499937]Radiotherapy[/re]: No.
No.
There is a paradox here.
Rush Limpbalm, a conservo, says corral all the Wall Street Jews.
Jonah Goldberg: Feckless destitutes stealing jobs from our Mexicans should be subject to a dragnet.
Beck says Hitler was a liberal. Thus, to be true his stars, Hitler was forced to roundup the Hebes. (And a smattering of queerish fags and maybe some crips and simps .)
So confused.
[re=499901]Crank Tango[/re]: Let me hear you say that again when Dodd’s seat is taken by Teabagger.
Oooo, no, Mister Bill, that could NEVER happen.
[re=499950]DoktorZoom[/re]: That’ll be on Fox where they’re having a telethon to raise money to build a huge sea wall along the Florida coast to keep thousands of potential Haitian refugees out. Hear they get a stellar celebrity cast to help them out, like Kelsey Grammar, Patricia Heaton, that dude whose related to Chris Farley, Lee Greenwood, Axl Rose, Creed, and Nickelback.
6 weeks = 1 Dodd Unit
Oh, how mavericky of Chris Dodd to pull a Palin Maneuver. Joe must’ve fondled his balls just right.
[re=499926]Cicada[/re]:
My advice to you – start drinking heavily.
[re=499850]PickneyPinchback[/re]: “And these are the ones who are supposed to be protecting the people from the special interests. We. Are. So. Fucked.”
Thank you for this.
[re=499953]S.Luggo[/re]: Thank you, I think. Maybe the abject misrepresentation, incessantly fed to the scared and foolish, now multiplied by Dred Scott II, and the convenient abuse of history…Argghh…MUST…NOT…GIVE…UP…Would you like another Bushmills sir?
[re=499942]zhubajie[/re]: You know, there really is something to be said for a media that wouldn’t be constantly playing an “Is this bad news for Hu Jintao?!!?” narrative 24/7, or indeed ever.
[re=499950]DoktorZoom[/re]: Thank you for talking to me.
“This is no time to engage in the luxury of cooling off or to take the tranquilizing drug of gradualism. Now is the time to make real the promises of democracy.” – Dr Martin Luther King, Jr.
Good Morning, Wonkette!
So, tell me – does it matter anymore what any individual Senator has to say about anything?
From now on, every politician in your country will have to weigh EVERY vote and EVERY position, and perhaps every utterance, against his perceptions of what the various interested corporations will do in response/retaliation… and your entire political culture may devolve into something midway between the over-the-shoulder terrorized whispering of Stalin’s Russia, and the shamelessly obsequious prostrations before Great (foreign?) Powers that characterized the most corrupt Colonial-Era ‘native’ governments. Perhaps the new masters of the United Corporate States of America, Inc. will manifest themselves as the Overseas Trade officers from the Boston branch of the newly-incorporated ‘Al-Qaida Inc.’, or perhaps the General Counsel from ‘Red Army Heavy Industry LLC’ – in any case, how quickly do you think they can recruit a blank-slate Candidate who will keep his sole loyalty wedded to the will of the hand that feeds him? Or perhaps they’ll quickly find their way into the confidences of one of your already-compromised Politicians, like Sen. Lincoln (D?-WalMart), Sen. Hatch (R-Merck), Rep. Murtha (D-Lockheed Martin), Sen. McConnell (R-R.J. Reynolds), Sen. Murkowski (R-ExxonMobil), Sen. Schumer (D-Credit Suisse), Sen. Snowe (R-New York Life, Aetna), Sen. McCain (R-Merrill Lynch, Citigroup), Sen. Lieberdouche (R-Wellpoint)… you get the point… like a spear in the back.
So, here’s the punchline: say goodbye to every hard-won civilization advance that your predecessors fought and died for over the past 120 years… the decline and fall of the noble aspiration that you (and we) call ‘America’ will proceed by attrition, and the entire world will suffer for it because the United States had (until December 2000) been the sometimes flawed yet always fascinating exemplar of what a working democracy looks like – even to those of us who live in constitutional democracies.
I wonder what will go first – abortion rights perhaps? I think that depends on whether corporations make more money with the legal right available to you, or without it… maybe some corporation may calculate that the US needs many more children, for future wars, labor forces, medical experimentation (like the poor folk in India who try to make a living out of selling their blood, eggs, etc.)… Organic food standards and Net-Neutrality are certainly on the chopping block… and those ReThuglicans who pine for the Gilded Age are working with their lawyers at this very moment to seize control of your formerly Representavie Democracy.
I’m angry. I’m angry and sad and terrified for you Yanks, and for the rest of us too. Remember the old saw “When the US catches cold, the rest of the world gets pneumonia”? Well, what happens when the US becomes a Suicidal Cannibal?…
Good day to you sir and to answer your latter question, L4D2!!
[re=499979]Bearbloke[/re]: You guys hook us up with some HP sauce to make the taste of eating our own gangrenous limbs more palatable?
Via Crooks &I Liars:
In a rare show of humanity, broadcast and cable television outlets have agreed to pre-empt their regular programming to air the Hope For Haiti Now Global TV Telethon.
Except for Fox News Channel.
Our crack C&L team has checked around the dial and compiled a list of channels participating:
CBS
ABC
NBC
CW
FOX
TNT
Weather Channel
MSNBC
CNBC
CNN
HBO
Showtime
Major League Baseball Network
Style Network
E! Entertainment Network
ReelzChannel
TNT
Comedy Central
Oxygen
Soap Opera channel
Bravo
National Geographic Channel
Sleuth
G4
CMT
TV1
BET
MTV
MTV2
VH1
GMC
FUSE
Current
PBS
It’s even streaming live on IMDb, Hulu and YouTube.
But not for FNC or their sister business channel. They’re showing Billo and crew.
[re=499989]waitforsugar[/re]: It’ll come direct from you from your good friends in downtown Heinzville (formerly known as ‘Pittsburgh’, Pennsylvania)…
[re=499965]Radiotherapy[/re]:
I can still recall (as I chortled in abject disbelief) when those foul villains, Roberts and Alito, said in their Senate confirmation hearings said that they would respect the prior decisions (precedent) of the Supreme Court. Yup. Sure. Tell me another one.
But in spirit of so-called bipartainship, the Senate Dems allowed the (Roberts/Alito) nominations to reach the floor and pass.
Next time, Dem assholes, take NO fooking prisoners.. Scorched earth. Virtue is its own punishment.
Dred Scott 2: The Roberts court decides that the 13th Amendment, abolishing involuntary servitude, is trumped by the Commerce Clause.
[re=499990]chascates[/re]:
“Via Crooks & Liars:
In an open showing of Stalinist/Hitler/Che Guevara/Maoist islamo socialist solidarity, broadcast and cable television outlets have agreed to pre-empt their regular programming to air the Hope For Haiti Now Global TV Telethon.
Except for Fox News Channel.
*****
Your point?
[re=499979]Bearbloke[/re]: Geez, rub it in, why don’t you.
“You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr. Beale, and I won’t have it! Is that clear? You think you’ve merely stopped a business deal. That is not the case! The Arabs have taken billions of dollars out of this country, and now they must put it back! It is ebb and flow, tidal gravity! It is ecological balance! You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations. There are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no third worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multinational dominion of dollars. Petro-dollars, electro-dollars, multi-dollars, reichmarks, rins, rubles, pounds, and shekels. It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet. That is the natural order of things today. That is the atomic and subatomic and galactic structure of things today! And YOU have meddled with the primal forces of nature, and YOU…WILL…ATONE! Am I getting through to you, Mr. Beale? You get up on your little twenty-one inch screen and howl about America and democracy. There is no America. There is no democracy. There is only IBM, and ITT, and AT&T, and DuPont, Dow, Union Carbide, and Exxon. Those *are* the nations of the world today. What do you think the Russians talk about in their councils of state, Karl Marx? They get out their linear programming charts, statistical decision theories, minimax solutions, and compute the price-cost probabilities of their transactions and investments, just like we do. We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr. Beale. The world is a college of corporations, inexorably determined by the immutable bylaws of business. The world is a business, Mr. Beale. It has been since man crawled out of the slime. And our children will live, Mr. Beale, to see that . . . perfect world . . . in which there’s no war or famine, oppression or brutality. One vast and ecumenical holding company, for whom all men will work to serve a common profit, in which all men will hold a share of stock. All necessities provided, all anxieties tranquilized, all boredom amused. And I have chosen you, Mr. Beale, to preach this evangel.”
[re=499993]Bearbloke[/re]: We don’t actually make anything in America anymore. We just exploit the poverty stricken to make our fancy condiments and shiny things.
[re=499996]imissopus[/re]: But why me?
[re=499996]imissopus[/re]: All you need is the right Corporate Anthem for me to hum along to, and you’ve got a winner there, mate!
Sometimes I like Vyv in University Challenge , “I’m bloody sick of this!!” and kicking Kendall Mintcake in the head.
[re=499979]Bearbloke[/re]:
A curious rant from someone whose country has the image of Her Supreme Majesty Queen Elizabeth II on its folding currency and still has a Governour General, eh Bruce?
Tie me kangaroo down.
Anyroad, I don’t disagree with the substance of your post, mate: we are fucked.
[re=500005]Bearbloke[/re]: Is it still hard for a Yank to try to emigrate to New Zealand?
[re=500008]El Pinche[/re]: He’s got a degree in economics
math, physics, and bionics
he thinks that I’m a cabbage
’cause I hate University Challenge.
[re=499996]imissopus[/re]: [re=499999]waitforsugar[/re]: There one little point to correct here…
Since the US ‘doesn’t make anything anymore’ – the rest of the world can slowly, painfully, but rationally tear ourselves away and watch from the sidelines are you become a GMO-fattened Darwinist Corporatized Theocracy with a continually-debased currency that still buys almost as much junk food at the local (foreign-owned) mini-mart, but simply doesn’t matter on the world market… do you really think there will still be such a thing as a “Petro-dollar” as the world’s reserve currency? Not bloody likely – more like the Petro-Renminbi, and then your debt-sodden ’2nd-world’ (think post-WWII UK) economy is FCUK’D…
For (hmm, how long has the US been in Iraqistan?…) – seven loooooong years, I’ve thought that Mr. Obushma’s War was about capturing the oil, not to bring it home in Imperial Triumph like you were told back in 2003-04, but rather to gain control of the spigotts, so that anyone who wants to buy it (cough…China…cough) will have to pay for it in good ole Yankee Greenback – and how do you get those? By buying US debt, and US dollars and keeeping the demand for them reasonably high thruought the world economy. If I’m right, expect your mercenaries armies to be at war for another 9-15 years, til the Corporations now running the US can come to a series of ‘understandings’ with their counterparts in Beijing & the WTO. In the meantime, brush up on your Mandarin…
[re=500001]waitforsugar[/re]: Because you’re on television, dummy.
[re=500010]chascates[/re]:
Never tried it, but you can:
http://www.immigration.govt.nz/
http://www.immi.gov.au/
[re=500009]S.Luggo[/re]: I like ‘America’, and I like the United States… at least I did when I visited, and I still think that a fully-democratic US is essential to developing a democratic world, and I’m not the only one who wants Obama to be willing and able to undo the monumental damage the Bush criminals did to the world we all share.
Remember how bemused the world was with l’Affair Lewinsky? That turned to haughty disdain (“WE would never fall to pieces like that!”) when we saw the resulting Impeachment. We thought you had regained your senses, and would thus dismiss Cowboy Bush Jr. without a second thought, so when your Supreme court began their 9-year victorious War on American Democracy (12 December 2000 – 21 January 2010) we were deeply concerned for you, but had to tend to ourselves as the TechBubble burst (along with a certain Bearbloke’s personal economy and vague notions of emigrating).
Then 9/11 happened, and the world poured out its empathy to you, until Bush screwed it up – but you know all about that, from your 9/11
Cover-upCommission…Then, the Bush Crusade started. Our friend, America, had gone barking mad. We wanted to help, somehow, if only with things like AfterDowningStreet and massive Anti-Bush protests in our nations’ streets – that your corporate media didn’t really cover… but it happened anyway. And when Obama toured the world as part of his campaign, we thought “America’s back!”
We still hope we were right about Obama.
Like the other foreigners here, I care about America, and want to see it improve and thrive.
[re=500010]chascates[/re]: Or vice-versa?
Zena, darling, just love your lats and dorsi when shown in shiny black leather.
[re=500013]Bearbloke[/re]: Summarize.
[re=500020]Bearbloke[/re]: Since I’ve spent most of this lovely summer Sat afternoon being – as you say in Merikin – a concern troll, I’m off for a pint or 3. I hope for the best for us all.
[re=500022]Bearbloke[/re]: Nope.
I knew a troll. You are not a troll.
[re=499942]zhubajie[/re]: Just ask Google.
I’ve been Liberal Democrat all my life but……
http://blingee.com/blingee/view/106184540-dodd
A lil sumpin sumpin that I think represents Dodd today.
Jesus. The wingnuts smell blood in the water. The feeding frenzy has commenced.
Hopey better fucking pull a rabbit out of his hat.
I concur with everything Bearbloke said. And now for a little bit of blogpimping, but it is on topic. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/2/hi/default.stm
http://www.gurukalehuru.wordpress.com
The 2nd one. My fingers just slipped.
Hmmm…it’s almost as if no one ever intended to actually pass any sort of HCR at all.
No — it’s exactly like that.
And now all those “good” dems can return to their districts,dab a little water in their eyes for the cameras, throw up the hands and cry that they did what they could.
This whole thing has me out of sorts.
I’m curious to know how often these clowns are paid off vs. blackmailed. I know some of both, but I wonder what the percentages are. They all get “perks”, but “they” ( AKA TPTB) also have something on everybody up there, from President down to the doorman in Congress. I happen to know the blackmailable offense of one of the congresscritters from my fair state; surprisingly, it’s not to do with sex.
But I digress. Seems to me that payoffs would be simpler than blackmail. Just keep them fat and happy until they outlive their usefulness and then finish them off a la Larry Craig. I’m way past giving a damn, just idle curiosity on my part.
I’m all for the break, as long as the congressmen go without any healthcare during that period…and until their constituents get the same access they have. Wait? What?
For some reason, the font on the Wonkette front page has gone to a calligraphy/old English font. Gives the posts a historical jauntiness. Bravo!
[re=500031]pricklygirl[/re]: I’m sure that’s why they invested so much time and political capital into it. And the payoff is that they either get to look like ineffectual idiots who caved or pass the Senate bill in a way that Independent voters (who swing elections) are profoundly opposed to or let the Republicans filibuster and prove that the Dems aren’t powerful enough to pass the keystone of their domestic agenda. Yes, that was an awesome and crafty move by those evil Dems.
And let’s just ignore that our Dem President placed HR at the head of his domestic agenda, and that the Republicans declared that health care reform would be his “Waterloo”. And also ignore that the Republican rallying cry has been “he cares more about Obamacare than JOBS”. Let’s ignore all that, because that doesn’t fit into this insane conspiracy theory that I keep seeing all over the liberal blogosphere.
It couldn’t possibly be that, despite the fact that most of the Dems really wanted to pass some sort of health care reform, they are facing a political setback that is making some of them worried about the political costs of voting for HR. No, no, no. That would be too easy.
Call them spineless, call them inept, but for Jeebus’ sake do not argue that the Dems wanted this to happen. They are going to pay politically for almost any move they make at this point.
I apologize for sounding so pissed, but this political theory really doesn’t hold water, and I’m seeing it EVERYWHERE. Maybe you’re just voicing your frustration, which I totally understand. Or maybe you really think this theory makes sense, which I don’t understand. I know people who are Senate staffers and they have been working all-nighters to try to get this bill together. People thought the 6o vote supermajority was going to make this a done deal, even if the final bill didn’t look like what everyone wanted. Dear god, the Dems put in that godawful deal for Nebraska just to secure that twit Ben Nelson’s vote. They thought they were going to pass it. The special election threw a wrench into the works. They are freaking out and need to get their shit together. End. Of. Story.
Jesus. How did it get to this?
My two cents: no leadership. I think Obama was trying too hard to get consensus when he should have made it clear what he wanted in the reform bill.
It’s over.
I just don’t get Dodd; he used to be OK. If I was facing imminent political death, I think I would walk to the gallows trying to do the right, “far, far nobler thing,” not trying to get in one last, craven act of mendacity. Then retire to a life of 7×24 golf and butt-slapping.
[re=500040]proudgrampa[/re]: [re=499979]Bearbloke[/re]: [re=499996]imissopus[/re]: All true, but, cheeze, could you at least throw in a penis joke? How about this: A dyslexic guy walks into a bra…
“Over? Did you say ‘over’? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!”
I thought we needed that about now…
Dodd is such a muffin ass, I do hope however my hair is that styled when I’m 85.
[re=499858]S.Luggo[/re]: Thanks for some Nooner…she’s just the immense dose of hatred I need to get my day going…Besides, I haven’t seen a Friday’s with Peggy blog on this dear Wonkette for a fortnight…perish the thought but I quavered at the rumination that our dearest Lady Noonington of Nooningshire had doth quaffed her lath potion of Gin and Barbituates…oh the sorrow, the bitter, bitter sorrow! Yet alas thine fear be asaged, Lady Peggington lives! Nay, nay, narry and tither anon!
[re=499849]Tommmcatt[/re]: “Maybe he’ll even fire Tim Geithner …” Timmy has a house that he couldn’t sell, waiting for him in NY. You remember, the one with the HIDEOUS blue bathroom. Geez, I wish I would have filed that photo. It was the real estate version of Santorum’s children.
[re=499858]S.Luggo[/re]: Jesus, Noonan needs to just admit she wants to blow Scott Brown on an airplane..this hollow husk of a male version of Sarah Palin won’t last past a single term when the voters of Mass. find out just what they did to themselves…oh and Massachusetts…go fuck yourself you slimy, selfish bastards. Also.
Maybe this is just a bit of misdirection on the parts of Democrats…ya know, make us think over and over again that they are so spineless they can’t churn out big legislation even with a supermajority. Now that they don’t have it, time to get tough. Okay, I just woke up from that dream…let’s see, the Democratic Party has huge majorities in the house and senate so we know they won’t get anything from their platform accomplished, ever. How the Republican Party which is so loaded down with wingnuts and is so low-brow and inbred can dominate with a super minority is beyond me…but it just shows why I’ve been checking out lovely Canada. When the Democrats fail yet again to place any commonsense restrictions on corporate electioneering in leui of that citizens united stealth corporatism case…by the way Supreme Court, way to go numbnuts, you just handed us all over as corporate property…Dred Scott in reverse. Time to start drinking and not stop until I hit Canada.
[re=499860]Suds McKenzie[/re]: No shit Suds..I remember Senator Grayson talking about how our awful healthcare system kills 44k of us per year via Harvard Medical Study. I wonder if the people dying because they can’t get fucking insurance will go ahead and take six months off while these feckless worms try to asses why the greasy naked deaf guy from “The Family Guy” is now a Senator from Mass. I wonder if we can stack the bodies on Dodd’s, Lieberman’s, Linclon’s etc. etc’s fucking front porch and let them rot. These people live in hermetically-sealed bubbles that make them so out of touch even one of those guys in the booby hatch who thinks unicorns shit on his head daily has more on the ball. Seriously, Democrats…here’s why you lost in Mass. and why your ratings are sliding, I’ll get a bullhorn for the hearing impaired and the bubble-sealed among us: You lost because you made promises of bringing us back from the abyss of GOP corporatism and then betrayed us all once the road got even the least bit bumpy. What did they expect? That these gargantuan, fat with blood money and sadistic health insurance corps or their even bigger, fatter and more sadistic brothers in big pharma were just going to sit idly by and let them fix healthcare if they put the process out in front this time? You bunch of weak-kneed, spineless panty-waistes…this is why you lost. Massachusetts voters could see past the phony “pass something awful now and fix it later” rhetoric and decided if they were going to elect a fascist to fuck them over, they’d rather elect a really dumb one to give it to them brutally like a drunken abusive husband hate-fucking his poor, abused wife.
If these Democrats now take this lesson to mean they must become even more spineless and panicky post the election of one asshole and completely abandon their values….might as well make Palin president for life and move elsewhere. Democracy is dead, the US is history…Sorry to sound so bitter, but just the thought of Mitch McConnel peeing himself in delight while the government run by one party is paralyzed by that one party’s own ineptness and inability to see the larger picture makes me angry, very angry.
I need to make a correction, it’s not Senator Grayson, it’s representative Grayson…my bad.
“He’ll be on a warm, Connecticut beach slappin’ asses this time next year.”
You gotta be kidding me. It’s January in CT. There are NO warm beaches in CT this time of year.. and unless there is a drastic spurt of global warming, there will be no warm CT beaches this time next year, either.
I suppose with the SC’s decision in the Citizen’s United case soon enough Congress will begin wearing corporate logo’s like cattle brands. While once upon a time this would have been useful to the citizenry and akin to a scarlet letter in this new America it will be so corporations can identify whom to buy, just like biological products. Goodbye unions, you’ll become illegal, now that politics has become a business market, whoever has the most money to sink wins, and it’s not you. Goodbye Roe…you had a good run but just as we found out in the Trijicon controversy when a US corporation has a religion aside from money, money, money it’s evangelical corporate christianity. Goodbye Bill of Rights, we hardly knew ye…while they won’t completely abolish the Bill (unless an Exxon sponsored Constitution is drafted giving corporations property rights over all US citizens) it will become mutated to reflect corporate dogma: human rights are good so long as they move products and when they don’t…meh, who needed free speech anyway? we all know money talks…and that’s the point isn’t it? when these five old, rightwing geriatrics and closeted homosexuals (scalia and thomas, here’s looking at you) rendered this decision, they took ostensibily as a matter of free speech and tossed free SPEECH into the garbage can. Words are wind but cash on hand is tangible…remember that, because that’s the new US. While I don’t doubt congress can do a lot to change or even reverse this decision (congress and the president don’t even NEED to abide by SC decisions if they choose not to) this spineless, weak and corporate-owned congress will make a sound signaling no fury. As we’ve all become expendable commodities let me place my middle finger up for sale to the highest bidder…whichever corporation bids the most gets flipped off. Privacy rights like those created in Griswold v. Connecticut are almost gone anyway and they’ll need us for market research and product experimentation; watch where you click.
This country reminds me more and more of Late-Imperial Russia every year…pride before the fall. The autocracy’s brazen disregard for changing human dynamics and its cruel plutocracy consisting of education level actually determined soley by property rights and holdings, gendarme assassination and brutality of intellectuals, complete censorship of media and state church all came to a crashing halt because the Russian people would only take so many kettles of shit before rebelling en masse. Even though it didn’t work out so well for them (as an understatement) I’m sure the first while after taking the Tsar down felt really good; like when they nationalized huge ancestral gentry estates which were being worked by the “free” children of serfs probably felt orgasmic. The point is, the “lower classes” will only allow themselves to be wholesale exploited and abused for so long…and I see this type of society a definite future for the Corporate States of America the “strict constructionists” on the court just gave us. Can someone explain why a fucking piece of paper has more rights than any of us on this site or in this country?
I was afraid for democracy after seeing the conduct of the GOP for these past 12 years but now I think we need to take a shovel out and bury it; it’s tombstone can read: “Here lies Democracy as yet another example of something unprofitable being extinguished”. Apparently social Darwinism rules as fact but biological Darwinism is only a theory.
“I suppose with the SC’s decision in the Citizen’s United case soon enough Congress will begin wearing corporate logo’s like cattle brands.”
And here you go!
[re=499979]Bearbloke[/re]: USA! USA! USA!
Swingin’: Completely agree. It will happen if the country continues this course, it’s just a matter of when.
[re=500034]QueenOfTheDamned[/re]: Maybe the WH and the dems should do the same to repugs and bluedawgs:
” Mitch, my man, I hope to see some votes on your side for this. If not, this polaroid of you and Lindsay Graham fuckin like two wildebeests in the Senate restroom may find its way to Politico or WAPO. …bitch. “
[re=499927]S.Luggo[/re]: Hey, Hitler tried to go to art school, he has to have been a liberal. I suspect the reasoning cited wasn’t that compelling. Actually, I suspect there was no reasoning cited, since that would get him banned from Fox.
[re=499936]Hooray For Anything[/re]: Funny how the slaughter right here at home from lax regulation never counts.
[re=499996]imissopus[/re]:
“Immane.” I love that word.
[re=500096]El Pinche[/re]: I can dig it. And if there do happen to be some congresscretins who are without blackmailable sin, well, somebody keeps making those Bin Laden tapes.
Also want to mention that I like Senator Dodd’s glasses. I want to get some like them once I reap the benefits of my corporate personhood or personal corporateness, whichever way that goes..
I’m sorry, but “America’s Greatest Bills” are and ever shall be THE BUFFALO BILLS!!!
Wow. Wow. Wow.
At this rate, progressives are going to start their own “tea parties” after the November election. Four-party system, here we come!
And this from a man who’s already announced his retirement. You remember the last time they took a “time out,” when the Republicans and Blue Dogs wanted to go home and “consult their constituents”? Jesus, the Teabaggers will swamp the things, and then they’ll try to “march” on DC again. We all remember how inconvenient that was, don’t we? Hundreds of…well thousands anyway…anyway, they were all trying to use our public transit and they was doing it wrong. Keep these a-holes out of my city and pass this thing. Then, we can all move on.
Chris Dodd, I am ashamed of you.
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