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Biden & Obama: Will They Ever Agree About Springsteen’s Later Work?

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While you were eating the rest of that bag of chips and wondering whether to watch the teevee or stalk your ex on Facebook, Joe Biden and Barack Obama were dressed in evening clothes at the Kennedy Center, arguing the merits of recent work by Kennedy Center honorees Bruce Springsteen and Robert DeNiro. Biden’s opinion? It’s all fucking great.

Obama’s view? “If both of these Guidos had expired by the mid-eighties, American Culture would’ve died with a little bit more class.” Wait did he really say that? Oh right, no. [White House Flickr]

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  • shortsshortsshorts

    By eating bags of chips and stalking other people, you too can be a long-living, 85 year-old Guido.

  • Cranky Little Camperette

    Obama totally has that “I’m putting up with this drunken idiot because I am too fucking tired to swing a punch right now” look.

    Or, as I call it, Tuesday…

  • villageatrois

    It’s a trap! Springsteen is that “Born in the U.S.A.” guy.

  • memzilla

    The truest definition of a guido: a guy who sits on the toilet while eating a hoagie.

  • mollymcguire

    And from out of the shadows came a young girl’s voice said: “Johnny don’t cry”

  • Joy

    meh. I’m just going to go do the stalking thing.

  • KristaJulieva

    Actually, if Robert DeNiro and Bruce Springsteen had a child together (as Nancy Pelosi wishes all babies were made, by gay sex) the kid would only be 3/8 Italian (a high-falutin’ word for Guido).

  • SayItWithWookies

    “If both of these Guidos had expired by the mid-eighties, American Culture would’ve died with a little bit more class.”

    What — and miss out on masterpieces such as Angel Heart and — um — lots and lots of forgettable Springsteen? I rate DeNiro’s egg explication as one of the triumphs of pseudointellectual wankery screenwriting pre The Matrix. Although I’m sure Avatar has already revolutionized all that, what with all the exegesis being in 3-D and everything. It’ll be like Jack Kerouak times Poul Anderson times Michael Jackson (when he flew into the Los Angeles Olympics on a jet pack, of course). Throw in Amiri Baracka as the homeless street-preacher/shaman, Helena Bonham-Carter as the unstable girlfriend and Dame Judy Dench as Queen Elizabeth and you have the entire collection of 20th century intellectual oversimplifications in one goulash.

    Now I’m going to go pee for twenty minutes and then try to cook a frozen pizza.

  • S.Luggo

    What’s the matter, trigger too tight?

  • tiny mexican

    You ain’t a beauty, but hey, you’re all right… steel mills closing, etc.

  • you cannot be serious

    You talkin’ to me?

  • you cannot be serious

    Shit. Must read tags before posting.

  • Potater

    Can we just buy Barack Obama some hookers and blow for Christmas? The guy seriously looks like he could use a stress reliever. Dump all the work on Clinton for the week-long bender, and just let Barry go hog wild in Denmark. He’ll return bloodshot and (hopefully) shirtless, but maybe we can smack that Frumpy McFrumperstein look off his face.

  • osama bin drinkin

    After reading this, I can not possibly put into words how glad I am that Layne is back on the regular.

  • Come here a minute

    Obama is looking at Biden with that, “‘The River’, please!” look

  • loquaciousmusic

    My favorite Springsteen album is Tunnel of Love. Does that make me a liberal?

  • ella

    Mmm, I love me some Hopey in a tux.

  • TVarmy

    I disagree with Obama. I’m required to love everything from Springstein as I live in New Jersey.


  • Fox News Light

    Obama wears a flag pin on his Tux. Many would say he really caved to the loonies…I say he does it for spite.

  • NJB

    [re=481264]loquaciousmusic[/re]: My favorite is “Nebraska’ – which makes me a depressive – without the manic part, I think.

  • Mr Blifil

    Wake me when Parliament/Funkadelic are the honorees.


    Wha? Huh? Sorry, lemme just wipe off the Hopey tux drool and I’ll get back to you on… on… whatever it is you were talking about.


    I mean, look at the guy, it’s like he’s about to go straight Godfather on the entire Senate.

  • Berkeley Bear

    Looks like O/Michael is about to give Biden/Fred the “Don’t go against the family” speech. So who’s going to wind up getting shot in the eye on a massage table ala Moe Green – my money’s on Lieberman (hope, hope, hope).

  • Berkeley Bear

    Fredo, dammit, Fredo

  • Schultz

    I’ll have to side with Obama on this one with a late-eighties caveat: ‘Midnight Run’ with Chuck Grodin is Deniro’s best film and it was downhill for Bruce after he danced with Courtney Cox.

  • SwanSwanH

    Er, Goodfellas, 1990.

    Dead mid-’80s Springsteen shoulda taken Al Pacino with him instead.

  • magic titty

    [re=481279]Mr Blifil[/re]: Word.

  • Neilist

    [re=481265]ella[/re]: I love Hopey in a tux, too.

    It’s so consistent with his True Inner Being: “Butler To Wall Street.”

    The only question now is: Who will play Jack Benny to his Rodchester in the remake of the old TV show?

  • Neilist

    Oh, and the answer to the question, “What Is The Best Springsteen Album?” is “The live one.”

  • Flanders

    [re=481227]SayItWithWookies[/re]: You’re doing it in the wrong order. Pee first, throw the pizza in the oven second, THEN begin digging into wonkett.

  • Gorillionaire

    Guess I am the only Ghost of Tom Joad fan in the world. All Hollywood movies in my lifetime have sucked dirty penises.

  • Marlowe

    [re=481277]NJB[/re]: Darkness on the Edge of Town, as performed live back in 1978.

  • chaste everywhere

    [re=481348]Neilist[/re]: Let Hopey play Benny, with Liebermensch as the slave.

  • Katydid

    [re=481270]TVarmy[/re]: Obligatory, “In the swamps of Jersey?”

    I been pissed at Obama’s policies for awhile now, but that tux reminds me I’d still hit it repeatedly.

  • Katydid

    And how come every single president cold hates the vice? Except maybe not Clinton.

  • caieva


  • dixiecrax

    There was a lot of fights. Between the blacks and whites. Ain’t nothing you could do, really.

  • hillarys_left_nut

    BO does look like a “The Wild, The Innocent, and the E Street Shuffle” elitist to whom Biden is trying to sell “Born To Run.” It’s exactly the “Yeah right” posture I adopt in such situations.

  • Holding Out for a Hero

    [re=481394]Katydid[/re]: Me too. And that fact is what keeps me from completely going over the edge.

    Joe the Biden as well.

  • SayItWithWookies

    [re=481365]Flanders[/re]: Good advice. I almost died of the munchies last night.

  • lawrenceofthedesert

    Obama is hoping now that the awards ceremony is over that Joe will stop pointing at him and saying, “You’re good, you’re very good!” and likewise quit looking at Nancy Pelosi and yelling, “Are you talkin’ to me?!?”

  • assistant/atlas

    Hair plugs FAIL.

  • darwin

    I don’t think President Obama likes Vice-President Biden very much.

  • Jukesgrrl

    [re=481277]NJB[/re]: Yes, it makes you a depressive, but “that’s alright with me.”

    [re=481279]Mr Blifil[/re]: I’m convinced President Flavor Flav is inevitable for our “reality” world, in which case P-Funk at the Kennedy Center is a lock. You’re welcome to be my date.

    [re=481334]Schultz[/re]: Midnight Run has my favorite movie line of all time. DeNiro to Grodin: “I have just two words for you, ‘Shut the fuck up.'” Someone should say that to Lieberman.

    [re=481387]Marlowe[/re]: Live Darkness on the Edge of Town. The greatest nights of my life, and I include my marriage in that.

  • aleks

    I would not have voted for a man who wished Springsteen and DeNiro dead. I would have voted for Palin, who’d never heard of them.

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