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What happens when enterprising Americans watch Fox News and use Twitter simultaneously? Constant hilarity, that is what, as you can see from this fun “info-graphic” on the Fox News, which explains how Sarah Palin’s supposedly strong 70% support from GOP idiots is still no match for Huckabee’s 63% support, or Romney’s 60%. What? [Twitter of "Keventhepang"]
Math is a tool of the lib’ral media.
CrunchyKnee: God damnit, I wrote that before I read the tags. I suck. That is all.
As Obama’s staffers have said, if Palin is the 2012 nominee, I will donate the maximum legal amount to her campaign.
Are you sure the word “back” doesn’t mean “go back” as in “Go back to Alaska, Palin!”?
pretty sure you arn’t allowed to have a pie graph that is over 100%
As Caribou Barbie said: “Math is hard!”
The “source” is quite a knee-slapper (personally I would have used deep throat, or tea bag).
CrunchyKnee: You will burn in Wonkette Hell, and by that I mean Riley will ignite a bag of dogshit on your front porch and run.
Well, I agree 1000 percent, so they are still far behind.
“SOURCE: OPINIONS”
Maybe Fox is trying to beat the comedy news shows too.
freppish: When Huckabee’s around, it’s always necessary to bring an extra pie.
Google called. They want their Chrome logo back, without the fucked up algorithmatic.
The chart makes sense if you assume “Back” means “Would have unprotected anal sex with.” It’s kind of a venn diagram that failed.
NOW I know how the conservatards in power before Barry managed to get our national debt up so many trillion$…
freppish: Yeah if you HATE PIE.
freppish: Wait, you mean, if you double the size of the pie (it’s more American that way), it doesn’t double the allowed representation? I thought this graph was being mocked because it was missing 7% ?
I see the respondents were former hedge fund managers.
SayItWithWookies:
Sarah gets meatcake.
In Texas, everything is bigger!!2!
I respect the Fox perspective on this. Why go or 100% when you can do so much more?
And 72% are so fat that when their beeper goes off, people think they’re backing that ass up.
Sadly, it just comes down to the fact that some idiot hit the pie chart function in Excel instead of bar graph. Sheesh - they have a job and I don’t! The problem in America isn’t unemployment…it’s that too many people have jobs and really shouldn’t.
Sarah, Mike and Mittens will be running as the “Tripartite Candidate” to meet the 110 IQ requirement for a presidential candidate listed in the 31st Amendment.
Is “opinions” really a source of fact?
They are practing their math for the 2012 Florida vote count.
Beyond the percentage issue, I was confused why the Republican Party was running hypotheticals about the “Black Palin,” “Black Huckabee” and “Black Romney.”
Now I want pie.
freppish: It’s a post-modern pie chart. Kids don’t care how old people made pie charts.
Ken Layne: Put food on your family!
Knock down the tollbooth!
Vulcanize society!
Make the pie higher!
Make the pie higher!
If you delete an L, then 70% of respondants are experiencing “BACK PAIN”
Well, there WERE 1.8 million teabaggers on 9/12 after all..
Mr. Tusks: No. But it’s better than saying SOURCE: ASS DYNAMIC.
Obviously, Fox understands that Palin has benefited from socialism and giving her the red portion of the pie.
Maybe they were insinuating overlaps … but then they should have had purple and orange or…no…that wouldn’t even make sense plus you can’t mix red and green and green and blue, well you get blue green but…Oh Hell with Wonkette! Why do you always hate Sarah Palin?
Gregoire: Perhaps this is an attempt by Fox to associate Palin with buttsecks.
Bush’s old budget guys now doing surveys??
Some people see the things that are and ask, why? Some people dream of things that never should have been let out of hell and ask, why not?
freppish: That’s a Moon Pie chart, to be washed down only with Dr. Pepper. Yee-haw!
It was my understanding that there would be no math.
I just want to say, this would be gigantic, tinsel-tastic Christmas gift if this were our field for the 2012 Republican primary. I would leave Santa extra cookies and milk!
Yeah but only 3% more Republicans support Palin + Huckabee minus Romney than they do Palin + Romney minus Huckabee, which means…….
Wait, let me re-jigger the numbers and I’ll get back to ya.
What with Egypt being put on the map next to Afghanistan and “inadvertent mistakes” with stock footage, how does anyone in FOX’s graphics department still have a job?
Nate Silver’s head just exploded.
Is Back Palin one of Sarah’s children that we never hear about?
One Yield Regular: The whole lot: CNN, MSNBC and FOX have just deplorable producers and editors. Ever sit and read some of the copy that scrolls across the bottom of the screen? The spelling errors would be funny if you took away the fact that they were committed (presumably) by a person with a college education.
One Yield Regular: how does anyone in FOX’s graphics department still have a job?
Deep throat, anal sex, oatmeal raisin cookies.
I would point out that the lack of three L’s on that chart is the only think keeping it from being the funniest shit ever.
AND the 70% is shown as the smallest piece.
Maths: UR doing it RONG!!!
RoscoePColtraine: I have been an unemployed editor for almost a year now, so yes, I do sit and read the scroll, and fume. How hard is it to run a damn spellcheck?
Isn’t this what Republicans accused ACORN of?
A rising pie lifts all bloats
Hooray For Anything: you are the winner.
Maybe the extra 93% came from a Glenn Beck survey?
What I find interesting is the 3D foreshortening and highlighting that makes Romney’s 60% seem like the largest of the three. I take this to mean that Prince Rupert has decreed that Romney will be the 2012 nominee. Murdoch should be Time’s “Man of the Decade”.
CycloneArmageddon: “ROMA” data!
imissopus:
Chevy Chase! His look of confusion was perfect in that skit.
Bar charts are for pussies! Pie charts are as Americn as pie and our failed educational system. Eat that Europe!
magic titty: So you admit to jiggering the numbers to begin with?
And some people dare question the credibility of Fox.
madtowngooner: This made me actually laugh out loud. A rising pie, indeed.
So what do we think the poll actually measured? Likelihood to vote for any individual candidate vs. some straw-democrat? I mean, obviously, the chart is a logical / aesthetic disaster, but they must have been measuring *something* that adds up to those odd chunks of Math(tm).
Carrabuda: The problem with spellcheck is, it doesn’t work when you fuck up homophones.
It appears that Operation Pie Spy is already bearing fruit.
Also, is a Back Huckabee like a Rand Paul?
freppish: The polling people took that that “Noooo Math” that was so fashionable back in the day.
Make The Pie Higher
I think we all agree, the past is over.
This is still a dangerous world.
It’s a world of madmen
And uncertainty
And potential mental losses.
Rarely is the question asked
Is our children learning?
Will the highways of the internet
Become more few?
How many hands have I shaked?
They misunderestimate me.
I am a pitbull on the pantleg of opportunity.
I know that the human being and the fish
Can coexist.
Families is where our nation finds hope
Where our wings take dream.
Put food on your family!
Knock down the tollbooth!
Vulcanize society!
Make the pie higher!
Make the pie higher!
That “Opinions Dynamic” is likey just another ham-handed f-up in this dog’s breakfast of graphics, but it makes it sound like they’re working with some damn French company - which is just disgusting!
Fox identified them all as Republicans and spelled their last names right so back the fuck off.
And I bet the temperature was 47 !!! Somewhere !!!
FoxNews uses high school coach math (”Hey youngblood! if you don’t give me 110%, I’ll rape you behind the bleachers!”).
If you round off and use error bars and whiskers, they all got 193 percent of the each person’s vote.
PsycGirl: I only jiggered them till they came out rite.
Ken Layne must be 500 gajillion percent wrong cuz:
FishbowlDC reports that Fox’s management has issued a memo declaring that “Effective immediately, there is zero tolerance for on-screen errors.”
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/11/23/fox-news-memo/
Note how they introduced a random factor into the total percentage. 193 is an excellent number if one wants to simulate a figure that has not been predetermined. Seems more organic and almost accidental. They did this to burnish their credibility.
Aquannissiwamissoo: Well, there goes all of their primetime.
Aquannissiwamissoo: “Zero” tolerance, eh? Given the audience, maybe they should’ve picked a less mathematical chastisement…
Is “Back Huckabee” like Bizzaro Huckabee. Because I could support him.
Its a wonderful day for pie…charts.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/3747938/family_guy_as_disney_cartoons_musical_its_a_wonderful_day_for_pie/
The purposely left out Ron Paul’s 7%, see how it does not add up to 200%. Crafty those Australians.
Aquannissiwamissoo: Oh sweet JEBUS! From the mentioned memo: “….This experience should make us stronger editorially, and I encourage everyone to invest themselves one hundred and ten percent in this effort.”
Heckuva job thar Fox!
This shit is hilarious.
I see the arithmetic of Reaganomics is alive and well.
So many wing-nuts - so little pie.
Downtheroadapiece: Excelant.
Carrabuda: You now know where to send your CV!
mardam422: General Rule #28: Republicans have never in the history of the world accused anyone of doing that which they weren’t already guilty of.
(and before you say it, English isn’t fucking Latin. Give it a rest.)
One Yield Regular: “What with Egypt being put on the map next to Afghanistan and “inadvertent mistakes” with stock footage, how does anyone in FOX’s graphics department still have a job?”
My theory is that the producers at Fox News keep doing this over and over to test their viewing audience — to see if they’re paying attention, or if they’re hypnotized — or comatose.
After watching this video — http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/23/palin-supporters-struggle_n_367800.html — I vote for none of the above.
The Fox News viewers are just stupid.
Fuzzy math from Fuzzy News.
please don’t ban me
http://www.foundshit.com/pictures/funny/rick-astley-pie-chart.jpg
I think it says that 70% have Back Pain.
PsycGirl: It was a survey of olds, which is the Pox Noise audience, and they thought it meant “BACK PAIN” which it otherwise resembles.
HipHopOpotamus: There is the story, of course, of the pizza guy poised with his roller-cutter over a big pie, asking, “You want six or twelve slices?” and the guy (Faux Noise fan) replies, “Better make it twelve; I’m starvin’.”
193% of Republicans might almost make a viable political party.
MULTIPLYING and DIVIDING they understand, but adding — not so much.
Oh yum-O!
Couch Potato pie!
Now that’s the kind of pie that, Bob Cratchit and family could live with.
The other 7 percent went to Trig.
Make sense.
This graph certainly seems un-intelligable at first glance. Perhaps they conducted a survey which allowed respondents to say they “back” more than one candidate, and so each of the three percentage figures refer to the percent of the total 100% that said they back that persons candidacy without needing to choose an exclusive candidate which they support.
RoscoePColtraine: Even if it misses homophones, it would still pick up lots of these goofs - not to mention it’s 1) easy and 2) free. It’s the “why bother?” meta-narrative that bugs me most.
One Yield Regular: Nope, I’ve left the Fourth Estate for good. I now create infographics - but NOT for Fox News.
Eh, nothing new. Everyone knows that Huckabee’s got back.
Downtheroadapiece: OMG, I thought you were joking!
Wiping tears of laughter from my cheeks..thank you, and good night!
YellowKid: I’m pretty sure they screwed up the polling organization’s name too - it’s Opinion Dynamics. Is FOX now entirely staffed with unpaid interns now? Or maybe they hired the press corps from the Bush White House out of pity?
Devlin: If so, a pie-chart isn’t what they needed to use. A bar graph would’ve gotten their point across without looking like total morans in the process. Which is what we’ve come to expect from them, so carry on, I guess.
I’m guessing they used a survey question phrased similarly to “Please tell me whether you think each of the following people is or is not qualified to be president.”
For example, see the second poll (from USA Today/Gallup) listed here: http://www.pollingreport.com/2012.htm
That was a different poll, but it showed similar results.
I know, it’s more fun to make fun of Fox. And it’s much more fun to pretend the source says just “Opinions.” Because that shows how godlike the commenter’s intelligence is compared to Fox News.
The pie is a lie.
Another fine example of Murdoch’s ‘quality journalism’ that soon everyone will be paying for - lol
It’s always easy to make fun of something when you take it out of context. The original poll, does indeed add up to over 100% as it measures favorable ratings - I certainly hope you all knew that and are just taking the easy shot at your favorite target. No doubt, they did a poor job of creating a chart that can’t stand on it’s own. And OMG, they added an “s” to the source. A typo! - what a bunch of idiots! That NEVER happens on left-leaning media! Please.
You’ve had your fun. Now get real you math whizzes and explain to us how the numbers for the Health Care bill add up!
Adding to the above post by fritzpeterson, in this case, a pie chart was a really stupid way to go as there are obviously people who approve of all 3, leading to a total more than 100%. Each percentage is out of its own 100%.
What, like you never used a pie chart when you should’ve used something else? A bar graph maybe?
I don’t support any of these candidates, but god damn, let it go right-wing vultures.
Adding to what fritzpeterson said above, the obvious source of this conundrum is that each percentage is taken out of 100. Obviously, among Republicans there are going to be people who back ALL THREE candidates.
What, like you never used the wrong chart before? A bar graph would’ve been more appropriate here, but they screwed up. Let it go.
OK everyone…lets relax a bit. There are two ways to get here:
1.) Everyone open Excel and put the values in the respective rows/columns. Then create a graph, and instead of clicking (on the Data Labels tab) “Label Contains Value” instead of “Label Contains Percentage”. That’s how you’ll get this configuration.
2.) The other way would be to create the graph as a bar chart with the values. And then if someone decided to change it to a pie-chart (because the 3-D graphic “looks better”), without going to that same tab, you’ll ALSO get this configuration.
Don’t believe it - try it yourself…it’ll only take a minute or two.
So I’m guessing they have someone that’s relatively new to Excel that didn’t double-check at their output before turning it in or someone turned in a boring 2D bar chart and someone without checking, opted to change it to a 3D pie chart, not realizing what they were doing, and now everyone is ready to jump on the bandwagon…as if this is some sort of huge issue.
Like I said…relax people, unless you’ve done every single aspect of your job to perfection, every day of your life.
Five minutes of investigation would dismiss all this crap…petty people these days…
It might be that some of the recent commenters disunderstood the nature of this site. There must be some actual serious site where you can to make excuses for zillion-dollar media empires that can’t handle excel basics.
YESSIREE PCHATTER!! THEM COMMIE BEDWETTIN FREEDOMHATERS NEED TO SETTLE DOWN WITH ALL THERE MATHY ASS-GRABIN!
LIKE THEY NEVER MESSED UP A PIE CHART BEFORE! I FUCK PIE CHARTS UP TODOS LOS DIAS. AND LIKE THEY’VE NEVER BUTCHERED A MAP OF THE MIDDLE EAST! COME ON, RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU HAVEN’T MISTAKEN “STOCK FOOTAGE” OF A PALIN EVENT FOR REAL FOOTAGE! THAT’S WHAT I THOUGHT! AND HOW WERE THEY SUPPOSED TO TELL THAT A CROWD OF 10,000 WASN’T 100,000 ?!?
AND IF YOU THINK THAT BECAUSE ALL THOSE ERRORS WERE IN CONSERVATIVE’S FAVOR, THEN FOX NEWS IS MISLEADING, YOU MUST ALSO BELEIVE IN EVOLUTION! YEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWW! *spittles in bucket*
This graphic goes to eleven.
No one noticed this before they put it on the air????
Maybe the *really* funny part is that none of the viewers noticed anything unusual either….
pchacker: …or aybe you are slow to appreciate that the unintentionally funny are the funniest of all
Nice try.
1) This is a LOCAL FOX affiliate, not FOX News national. The logo in the bottom left reveals that.
2) Local stations are notorious for graphic snafus. If you’re looking for an agenda, point your finger at the DC FOX station, not FNC.
3) Funny - you kids wanna take FNC to task for facts and accuracy, but you left out key details regarding the above graphic. Why? Because it didn’t support your case? Because the point you’re trying to make would have been invalidated by facts?
Lastly - You have no obligation to be truthful or honest, you’re just a simple blogger with a large following of sheep. Essentially, you’re nothing but a MySpace page for rabid political trolls. So, feel free to present warped information: it puts you in the same category as the subject of your criticism.
UnattendedConsequence: “There must be some actual serious site where you can to make excuses for zillion-dollar media empires that can’t handle excel basics.
This was not one of those empires. Good try.
pchacker: If you think Producers, let alone graphics guys, use excel to generate these graphs then kindly exit this conversation. You’re a moron.
That’s equivalent to using a fish to hammer a nail.
Daveislikelol: “Another fine example of Murdoch’s ‘quality journalism’ that soon everyone will be paying for”
Do you have any ideas of your own or do you get paid to be a parrot?
Nasara: “Sadly, it just comes down to the fact that some idiot hit the pie chart function in Excel instead of bar graph. Sheesh - they have a job and I don’t! The problem in America isn’t unemployment…it’s that too many people have jobs and really shouldn’t.
The person at the LOCAL FOX station has a job because they know what programs to use and supposedly how to use them. You don’t have a job because you think that TV stations use EXCEL to create graphics for air.
You’re right, the issue isn’t unemployment, it’s people like you who deserve to be jobless because you’re too stupid and self-serving to dvelop any employable skills…but the facts aren’t important, just your agenda, right?
Aquannissiwamissoo: “Ken Layne must be 500 gajillion percent wrong cuz:
FishbowlDC reports that Fox’s management has issued a memo declaring that “Effective immediately, there is zero tolerance for on-screen errors.”
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/11/23/fox-news-memo/“
This memo is irrelevant as it was an internal memo at FNC. This graphic snafu is from a local Fox affiliate.
Additionally, this portion of this memo that states “…it’s better to get it right than to get it on [the air]…” has been issued countless times in countless newsrooms across the country since the days of radio…and before FNC. But don’t let facts cloud your opinions.
Hey, quit putting down Fox News! Fox News is the only true news source which does not let facts (or math or a basic understanding of what a “pie” chart means) get in the way of reporting!
“A zero tolerance for on-screen errors”!! That’ll show the nay-sayers! Perhaps they ought to put that in a pie chart, too!
THAT’S RIGHT FAILAGAIN!! THESE MORONS DON’T KNOW AN AFFILIATE FROM A CORPORATION IF IT WAS WEARIN A TU-TU AND BENDIN OVER IN THEIR FACE!
YOU’RE OBVIOUSLY WAY SMARTER THAN THESE BUNCH OF PUSSY-ASS LIBS, SO WHY DON’T YOU GO AHEAD AND EXPLAIN THE TEABAGGER CROWD ESTIMATION OOPSY, THE SARAH PALIN BOOKSIGNING STOCK FOOTAGE OOPSY, AND NOW THE TAX-PAYER FUNDED PUBLIC OPTION OOPSY. http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/11/fox-host-public-option-would-be-tax-payer-funded-government-health-care-program.php
YEAH GO AHEAD AND EXPLAIN IT TO EM, AND SHUT EM DOWN!
OH, YEAH, AND GREAT ANALOGY ABOUT NAILING A NAIL WITH A FISH TO USING EXCEL TO MAKE A PIECHART!! OBVIOUSLY GRAPHICS LIKE THESE ARE WAY TO COMPLICATED FOR EXCEL!
YEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAA
Math requires a lotta fingas.