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Abort me!TWO DISASTROUS PEOPLE GET INTO FIGHT: Joe “Fucking Wind Sock” Klein and Jamie “Marty Peretz’s Slave” Kirchick appear to have gotten into a fight, at a Jew conference! “A heated debate between Time magazine’s Joe Klein and the New Republic’s Jamie Kirchick spilled off the dais Tuesday into a hallway confrontation where Klein called the younger pundit a “dishonest [expletive]” and a “[expletiving] propagandist.” Oh boy! [WP/Reliable Source]


5:06 PM on Wed November 11 2009
By Jim Newell
1051 Views

  1. chascates says at 5:09 pm, November 11th, 2009

    Until Rahm Emmanuel beats the shit out of Joe Lieberman I’m not intereseted. That’ll be the Jew showdown.

  2. El Pinche says at 5:12 pm, November 11th, 2009

    aaaah na he di-dnt!!

  3. Extemporanus says at 5:12 pm, November 11th, 2009

    A gut SCHMOvember!

  4. In that WP photo, the dude on the left (I don’t do names, thank you very much) looks like he’s in dire need of an antihistamne to bring down the swelling, while the dude on the right looks like a prolapsed uterus. That’s my take on it anyway.

  5. ManchuCandidate says at 5:18 pm, November 11th, 2009

    It hurts me even to say this, but I’m more inclined to agree with Joe Windsock. If only this were the WaPo and the old fucker put the little putz into a headlock and gave the little the noogies he so deserves.

  6. “[Expletiving] propagandist” is obviously “fucking”, but “dishonest [expletive]” could be a lot of things - “shit”, “fuck”, “dick”, “asshole”, pretty much any noun curse really. C’mon Washington Post, just because all of your editorial writers are over 90 doesn’t mean you have to act like a bunch of prudish old women; and even if you’re too scared of angry hand-written complaints from actual old women and Joe Liberman, can’t you still follow the standard of writing “s***” or the equivalent, so we can know what the fuck was actually said?

  7. FlownOver says at 5:18 pm, November 11th, 2009

    Reliable prediction: Swampland will soon clog up the internets with the longest self-justification post in history.

  8. shadowMark says at 5:21 pm, November 11th, 2009

    “Absolutely. He’s a [expletive],” Klein, 62, told us. “He’s 25 years old, and he’s one of those people who has opinions but no facts or experience.”

    It was like that scene in Clockwork Orange when the old bums beat up young Alex. It was old age having a go at youth.

    Kirchick described it just that way:

    We’ll teach Kirchick all about punishment, the murderous young pig.
    Get him,” Klein said. And, believe it, brothers,
    or do the other veshch, two or three starry dodderers, about
    ninety years old apiece, grabbed me with their trembly old
    rookers, and I was like made sick by the von of old age and
    disease which came from these near-dead moodges. The crystal
    veck was on to me now, starting to deal me malenky weak
    tolchocks on my litso, and I tried to get away and itty out,
    but these starry rookers that held me were stronger than I had
    thought. Then other starry vecks came hobbling from the
    gazettas to have a go at Your Humble Narrator. They were
    creeching veshches like: “Kill him, stamp on him, murder him,
    kick his teeth in,” and all that cal, and I could viddy what it
    was clear enough. It was old age having a go at youth, that’s what
    it was.

  9. dr.giraud says at 5:22 pm, November 11th, 2009

    Get your facts straight Kirchick, it was FIVE AND A HALF YEARS.

  10. Tundra Grifter says at 5:25 pm, November 11th, 2009

    Maybe Kirchick accused Klein of writing “Primary Colors.”

  11. mollymcguire says at 5:26 pm, November 11th, 2009

    Any 25 year old neocon who is not currently toting a rifle in a desert is, by definition, a dishonest shit.

  12. Tundra Grifter says at 5:28 pm, November 11th, 2009

    Sara would have written “Fucking Tube Sock.” You betcha!

  13. SayItWithWookies says at 5:30 pm, November 11th, 2009

    ManchuCandidate: I’m on Klein’s side in this particular matter as well — but I want to qualify that statement by saying that I still think he’s a self-serving putz.

  14. Jim Demintia says at 5:41 pm, November 11th, 2009

    Based on that photo of Kirchick, I would assume he has exactly two areas of expertise: A) World of War Craft and B) Cheetos

  15. mollymcguire: Not to say Kirchick isn’t a dishonest shit, but he has a better excuse than most what with his being purportedly gay

  16. Paul Tardy says at 5:44 pm, November 11th, 2009

    “dishonest [expletive]” and a “[expletiving] propagandist.” What, no clever use of languge or Yiddish curses? This is what has come of Jewish intellectuals? That exchange could have been between college educated Schvartzers. Oi Vay.

  17. queeraselvis v 2.0 says at 5:45 pm, November 11th, 2009

    Meh. Inexperienced blowhard douchey shitbag vs. reliably cranky verklempt motherfucker. Tomato, tomahtoe.

  18. charlesdegoal says at 5:50 pm, November 11th, 2009

    I used to be patronizing with little shits like you.

  19. thefrontpage says at 5:52 pm, November 11th, 2009

    Go Joe! Most sane people will have to discard any partisan politics and just take Joe Klein’s side in this case.

    Maybe Klein and this ignorant little baby kid will have a rematch at a boxing ring!

    Our money’s on “Slugger” Klein!

  20. It’s the Old Year looking at the New Year and not liking it a bit.

  21. sanantonerose says at 5:57 pm, November 11th, 2009

    My old boyfriend from high school once confided that used to jerk off in wind socks. Or was it tube socks? I forget.

  22. AnnieGetYourFun says at 6:03 pm, November 11th, 2009

    Wow, Klein is 62? I never really paid attention, but just sort of assumed he was young or something.

    Jew fight!

  23. CaiteeCruelle says at 6:03 pm, November 11th, 2009

    Jim Demintia: I would say he doesn’t have the intellectual heft required for World of Warcraft. So I’m going with 1) cheetohs and 2) cheetohs.

    SayItWithWookies,ManchuCandidate: Me three, although the original “fucking windsock” story is probably my favorite media criticism ever, still and always.

  24. DustBowlBlues says at 6:07 pm, November 11th, 2009

    chascates: It always pisses me of when the first is the funniest. I lose, on two counts. So fuck you.

    Back on the topic, I just don’t get this. When I was in college in the olden days, Jews were elitist pussies, not elitist bullies. When did the change happen? Oh, that’s right. Since the Israel lobby bought both political parties and, fulfilling every good Nazi’s worst nightmare, began ruling the world. Or at least the USA part of it. Being sympathetic to the suffering of the Palestinians, I’m obviously anti-semitic, so my opinions to count.

    And, fuck me–I’m going to get pissed off, totally OT. They’re saluting the fucking Navajo codetalkers on PBS. What about the Oklahoma Comanches? Huh? Huh? What are they, chopper liver? It’s not like they were code talking in fucking Latin. Comanche is a really hard language too, you know.

  25. schvitzatura says at 6:08 pm, November 11th, 2009

    mollymcguire: If Kirchick has even the most remote of chances of being forward-deployed to a Afghan firebase, Obama had better fast track overturning “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”:

    Kirchick sided with the Yale-New Haven Hospital in its battle with Yale’s unions and SEIU.[4][5] He has criticized “self-professed feminists”,[6] and the protests of “diversity” activists who were “blaming Yale for the very existence of social inequality”.[7] In addition, he is not a fan of anti-war professors,[8] “queer” activists (though Kirchick is openly gay)

    “dishonest c*********” and a “f***** propagandist”?

    Joe, I didn’t know you had it in you!

  26. CaiteeCruelle: Yeah, where most WoW players joke about certain classes being so easy you can just roll your face on the keyboard and win, Kirchick literally rolls his face across the keyboard, and uses the input for both WoW and his next blog post.

    mollymcguire: This. This could not possibly be emphasized enough. If you are age 18-30, and a neocon, consider Veterans Day either a recognition of your philosophical consistency (abhorrent and wrong though it is), or a reminder of your eternal damnation for being a cynical, lying shitbag.

  27. the problem child says at 6:17 pm, November 11th, 2009

    schvitzatura: Yes, I think that “dishonest cocksucker” is a good guess.

  28. If he’s only 25, then the gay jew in question didn’t even have a drivers liscense on 9/11.

  29. MarieDeGournay says at 6:33 pm, November 11th, 2009

    mollymcguire: Nuff said.

  30. Yin meets yang. Conflict ensues. It’s an old story.

  31. uppercanada says at 7:33 pm, November 11th, 2009

    “EXPLETIVING”??! I didn’t know newspapers could do that!

  32. geminisunmars says at 8:18 pm, November 11th, 2009

    bago: I thought in most states you could drive at 16. He’d have been 17. But he might not have known yet that he was gay. Or, worse, a neocon.

  33. depraved indifference engine says at 9:26 pm, November 11th, 2009

    A reporter says “a “dishonest [expletive]” and a “[expletiving] propagandist.” ” and only 32 views? What the hell is going on in here? Wonkette to the rescue?

  34. depraved indifference engine says at 9:27 pm, November 11th, 2009

    32 comments. I meant comments.

  35. snideinplainsight says at 10:54 pm, November 11th, 2009

    At least he didn’t call him an “[expletive] Lieberman”. That would have been below the (borscht) belt.

  36. This is what Klein and Kirchick were thinking during the debate:

    Klein: Ayin kafin yan (Go shit in the ocean).

    Kirchick: Ess drek und starbn (Eath shit and die).

    Klein: Kish Mein Touches (Kiss my ass).

    Etc.

  37. LowerdPeninsula says at 2:58 am, November 12th, 2009

    I’m reading Jamie Kirchick’s wiki page, and the dude sounds like a Grade A douchebag of the “you can’t put me in a box/category” variety, a rebel without a cause.

    It too pains me to say it, but it seems like Klein was being generous, here.

  38. gurukalehuru says at 6:27 am, November 12th, 2009

    It seems to me that nobody here in Wonkettistan likes Joe Klein much, well, I don’t know much about Joe Klein, but if he wrote Primary Colors (I found the Carville “Winona Ryder” scene, and John Travolta as Bubba taking credit after somebody found his phone in the bushes by the side of the road by saying “you wouldn’t have found it if I hadn’t thrown it there” particularly believable and telling), and now this, then he’s all right in my book until somebody proves different.
    We have so few heroes.

  39. zhubajie says at 6:46 am, November 12th, 2009

    Time to revive duelling?

  40. LowerdPeninsula says at 7:46 am, November 12th, 2009

    gurukalehuru: Why don’t you try reading his regular writings, and then tell me that he’s all right in your book. He’s horrible; utterly horrible in every way, both as a person and a writer.

  41. Manos: Hands of Fate says at 8:59 am, November 12th, 2009

    I didn’t really know much about Kirchick before this, but his photo alone induced a strong desire to see his face shoved into a toilet by Mr. Klein.

  42. mollymcguire: ….and a fucking chickenhawk, well ok, that could be the same thing. Little shitbag.

  43. Harvey Birdman says at 11:57 am, November 12th, 2009

    Wonkette, please let us know when you find Kirchick’s adam4adam profile requesting BB B&D with party favors.

  44. Senile Agitation says at 12:04 pm, November 12th, 2009

    mollymcguire: Amen, Ma’am.

  45. randomsausage says at 12:54 pm, November 12th, 2009

    I have to agree with other Wonketteers that Kirchich’s chipmunk features are just crying out to be pummeled by a large polo mallet.

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