Wonkette
Oh look, Harry Reid has filed a motion to bring his health care bill to the Senate floor any day now! He hopes to start the debate next week after the CBO finishes scoring his bill, which has to be under $900 billion, or everyone will die.
Asked at a news conference if he would get the bill on the floor next week and completed by the holiday recess, Mr. Reid offered a terse reply: “Yes and yes.”
But aides said there was still much uncertainty, and Senate Democrats have repeatedly missed self-imposed deadlines on the health bill. The aides said Mr. Reid was aiming to vote on bringing the bill to the floor before the Senate leaves for Thanksgiving.
Simply getting approval for such a motion to proceed would require support from all 60 members of the Democratic caucus: 58 Democrats and 2 independents. But there is still substantial disagreement over a number of contentious issues, including the proposal for a government-run insurance plan, or public option.
Our money’s on, hmm, March 2010, for when Olympia Snowe finally bangs the gavel on this bill’s death.
Burn the Senate.
Reid Says Health Bill Will Be Done by Christmas [NYT]
“Burn the Senate?” Don’t you mean “Biden motorcade the Senate?”
Yeah, I just don’t know what to root for anymore, health care reform that doesn’t reform health care except to interfere with my reproductive rights and jail me should I choose not to buy in, or status quo. Where is the leadership? So disappointed.
Part of the “War on Christmas” no doubt.
The Republican leader, Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, said Democrats were ignoring public opinion in pressing forward with the bill.
Of course, 1) it’s pretty popular, and 2) when the Republicans pass truly horribly unpopular bills, they call it leadership.
So Vinegar Joe is the Grinch.
Patty Murray - Cindy Who
I am going to be so pissed if this doesn’t pass. Anyone see Frontline last night? They repeated a show where they compared health care systems around the world. Our system really, really, really, triple sucks.
Dear Jebus, please send biting flies to the homes of these morons. And an extra order for Joe Lieberman. Thank you.
“OH MAN— HARRY REID HAS GOT BALLS!” <— Statements that make no sense.
SayItWithWookies: Come on now; you can’t pay attention to polls or what the public is actually saying. The Republicans say that the health reform and the public option is unpopular; therefore, as long as the media is concerned, it is unpopular.
Monsieur Grumpe: Yes. T.R. Reed is my fucking hero, too. Let’s cut out Congress altogether on this thing and have a mega-national referendum like the Swiss(?) did. We’d have the system we want, not the one that got compromised to death by our elected whore-bags.
First we must have hearings about Hazan being a terrorist on the level of 9/11 & the Murray building bombing. With lots of talking points about political correctness and the actual existence of evil.
Then we must debate whether whatever number of troops Obama sends to Afghanistan is right or not and if right why didn’t he send them sooner.
Then Joe Lieberman will ruin whatever remains of the health care reform.
liberaltruthsayer: Jail you? What, is “death panels” no longer testing well in focus groups?
Much like Sarah Palin, Harry Reid now wishes to Co-Opt the Trigger. As early as next week, even. Beer me.
I remember when I was a little kid and I wanted a particular little kid toy for Christmas that year, and I was really looking forward to it, and “Santa” was definitely clued in to what I wanted, and when Christmas morning came around and I opened the present, it wasn’t the one that I wanted at all!!! I was super disappointed and Christmas was ruined and I had a sad.
That’s the health care reform bill that Reid and the completely worthless Democratic Party is about to lay under our tree this Christmas. Just a really stinking piece of shit piece of mealy-mouthed legislation that satisfies not a single solitary soul except insurance company bean counters and execs.
Fuck the Democrats.
“Burn the Senate.”
Reichstag II: Electric Boogaloo
It will be a gift to us if we can get out from under paying the COBRA insurance payments we are paying now and are given a more reasonable premium.
Great Jehovah, should you, in your infinite wisdom, wish to call thy servant Joe Lieberman home to thine bosom, could you please do it before your son’s birthday (or perhaps you call it Kwanzaa)? We give thee most humble and hearty thanks. Amen.
I hope this still gives Reid enough time to slip Vinegar Joe a mickey and do the ole “put him in a bed with a couple of shiksa prostitutes, Lindsey Graham, and an entire plate of bacon and take photographs of it” blackmail trick.
Decker: I literally just watched Breakin’ on Sunday—the parallels to the Obama administration were freakin’ uncanny!
Extemporanus: Man, I was looking forward to a little pun-pong on that other thread and you raised not at the bait. Literally! Woof.
Monsieur Grumpe: But the foreigns no haz our freedoms. Public Option Healthcare or the God-given-right to carry a concealed AK to a daycare center? You choice, America. Your choice.
The Senate Dems could get the bill passed if they added the “Blake Hall Subsidized Trojans Amendment”, also known as the “Try Stepping onto Your Front Lawn Now, You Unfaithful, Worthless Prostitute!” amendment.
Any other amendments that might workee?
The CSM Weekly did a cover feature on health care around the world, and it turns out that even Taiwan and Malaysia have better systems than ours. Health Care in this country is more on the level of fucking Uzbekistan. (Nailed the spelling on first try–SCORE)
The attitudes toward abortion surprise me. Remember the buttons that read, “Keep Abortion Safe and Legal”? Say that to a young woman today and watch her eyes widen in horror. Just think what one of the old buttons featuring a coat hanger would do to them.
My daughter was dating a Women’s Studies major, (it wasn’t a pussy guy–they’re both lesbians) and she said that the modern attitude is, “Abortion is wrong. Not if I need one, mind you. If it were for me, it would be totally justified. It’s just wrong for other women.”
I wonder if we’ll have to lose the right and wait for a few–a lot–of women to bleed to death, puncture lower intestines and die of massive infections to remember what this is about. As one of my harshest and bluntest friends put it, “It’s not like they’re an endangered species.”
Hey–that’s an idea for a tee-shirt: “Keep Abortion Safe and Legal. It’s Not Like They’re an Endangered Species,” with a background featuring coat hanger dripping with blood and a little motto across the bottom: “Stop the Baby Seal Pup Slaughter”
For the liberal woman who has a lot to say and doesn’t mind being stoned to death by crazed fundies.
bitchincamaro: You forget. Oklahoma, Texas, the South et. douchebag al. get to vote. We’d fuck it up for everyone.
chascates: “Murray building bombing”
That’s Murrah Building (can’t remember what Murrah did–judge or something–but do recall when I found out I realized he was fucking great and didn’t deserve to have his building blown up) and if you’d pay attention, you’d notice the Republics always leave OKC out of their terrorism talk. McVeigh was a blond, blue-eyed Christian and veteran whose ideas were right in line with the Republics. They don’t bad-mouth him, ever. In fact, I expect “Timothy McVeign Died for the Liberals’s Sins” tee-shirts to start appearing any day now. And selling out fastest in Oklahoma. (I am on a marketing roll tonight).
DustBowlBlues: “I am on a marketing roll tonight).”
And talking to myself, evidently. Buy hey–Happy Birthday, Typhoid Mary! (Or happy death? I didn’t catch the opening of Keith’s Oddball feature.)
DustBowlBlues: My apologies. I do remember how the devil Muslims were the first suspects in that tragedy. I hope you get rain this winter. The lack of tornadoes (I used to live in the Panhandle of Texas) makes me think that the climate change is really weirding things out. Here’s hoping Tornado Alley moves east and runs from Alabama straight up through Pennslyvania.