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Fox News’ in-house eugenicist Brian Kilmeade had a provocative suggestion this morning, on his network’s A.M. comedy show: “KILMEADE: Do you think it’s time for the military to have special debriefings of Muslim Army officers — anybody enlisted?…Because if I’m going to be deployed in a foxhole, if I’m going to be sticking in an outpost, I got to know the guy next to me is not going to want to kill me.” Got to know it, man, Brian’s just got to know it.
BUT WAIT, Gretchen Wilson would like to put it another way: what Brian means is, why did the liberals do this?
Could it be that out military was also exercising political correctness — even though he had a poor performance report, even though he spoke openly about being a radical and had those supposed postings online — could it be that the military was exercising political correctness in not approaching as seriously as they would have if he had not been a Muslim?
WAIT, let us put it another way: is there maybe perhaps possibly a clause in the House health care bill ordering Muslim soldiers to do this regularly? Is this what they mean by “opt-out” public option?
[Sigh.] The great James Fallows had a great take on the shootings, which he would, because he is the great James Fallows! It is terrible when shootings happen, and authorities should try to figure out why these shootings happen, and do what they can to prevent them from happening again, but usually what happens — whether it’s this or George Tiller or whatever — is someone has one political view or another and is insane and has access to weapons. We don’t need a major change in federal policy every time the downside risks of an open society materialize.
(Fox and Friends is the funniest show on television. Did you know that?)
“Fox And Friends” Hosts Worry That Military Needs “Special Debriefings” For Muslims [Huffington Post/Jason Linkins]
There are two hilarious ideas here. (1) Kilmeade would join the Armed Forces. (2) That anyone WOULDN’T want to at least shoot him in the leg.
The fact that we still fight wars from foxholes might be why we’re having so many problems. Pretty much every other military has moved on from WW I tactics. Just something to think about, General Kilmeade.
i thought we were supposed to be out of Iraq. What happened?
“This is why we need special debriefings for bi-curious Army officers. If I’m going to be deployed in a foxhole, if I’m going to be sticking in an outpost, I got to know the guy next to me is going to be able to restrain himself from ass-raping me repeatedly while mortar shells rain down around us because my milkshake is just fucking irresistible.”
I got to know the guy next to me is not going to want to kill me.
Muslims, hell. Many people of diverse ethnicities would be lining up to frag Brian Kilmeade.
one day we’ll look back on these disgusting people and cry. and, unless they are so far gone they have come to be generally regarded as kooks, they won’t look on this as their finest hour themselves. well, I can hope.
AnnieGetYourFun: D’oh, I am late on the ’submit’ button.
And what about all the military shootings carried out by white, X-ian males?
hmmmmmmm?!
Why does Kilmeade hate America by not protecting it from these enemies of democracy?
fucking c*nt.
What if a solider is a Rapture-ready Fundie? He might kill you and himself just to bring on the Jesus Escalator? Or those atheists who don’t even believe in an afterlife? They might kill you just because you listen to shitty music on your iPod.
Best approach: ask each soldier if he/she listens to Glenn Beck. Cull them.
“if I’m going to be sticking in an outpost”
He’s not even trying to pretend to have a fucking clue. Why not just say “we no give muslim a boom-stick”
Life in the foxhole, according to Shepperd Smith: You can’t trust the grunt next to you anymore, either he wants to kill you ‘cuz he’s a muslin, or wants to blow you because he’s a queer. What to do?
“(Fox and Friends is the funniest show on television. Did you know that?)”
http://tinyurl.com/69nesg
Telling choice of words there, that use of the foxhole conceit. I mean, isn’t that the same line that used to get thrown around when conservatives would trumpet their sexual insecurities when discussing the idea of gays in the military?
Anyway, Kilmeade already is a Foxhole.
Interesting note: “sticking in an outpost” is actually a direct translation from Mandarin Chinese of the activity that the Brits coyly refer to as “going rogue.”
Okay, wait a second. Geraldo… Geraldo turned out to be the voice of sanity and reason? These really are the Last Days.
Everytime a Christian does something retarded and horrible, we should de-brief them.
The guy next to him is going to kill him anyway - just because the dude is a walking Kick Me sign.
And are we really supposed to believe he’d be anywhere around a war-zone to begin with? I’m guessing if they tried to get him to go that he’d be hiding so far under his bed that they’d have to tear his house down to get at him.
The Islams SHOULD APOLOGIZE for this shooting to prove they are truly Americanists. Adhering to the same logic I apologize on behalf of my white christian USA gender and race (aka “real Americans”) for the following:
University of Texas at Austin massacre
SC State killings
Kent State shootings
Jackson State shootings
Olean High School shooting
California State University, Fullerton massacre
Cleveland Elementary School shooting
Parkway South Middle School shooting
Goddard Middle School shooting
Portland Junior High School shooting
Pinellas Park High School shooting
Hubbard Woods School shooting
Cleveland School massacre
University of Iowa shooting
Lindhurst High School shooting
Palo Duro High School shooting
Edward Tilden High School shooting
Simon’s Rock College of Bard shooting
East Carter High School shooting
Amityville High School shooting
Reseda High School shooting
Wauwatosa West High School shooting
Grimsley High School shooting
Wickliffe Middle School shooting
Blackville-Hilda High School shooting
Richland High School shooting
Frontier Middle School shooting
Hamilton High School shooting
Mid-Penninsula High School shooting
San Diego State University shooting
Hetzel Union Building shooting
Bethel Regional High School
Pearl High School shooting
Heath High School shooting
Westside Middle School shooting
Parker Middle School dance shooting1
Thurston High School shooting
Columbine High School massacre
Heritage High School shooting
Fort Gibson Middle School shooting
Buell Elementary School shooting
Lake Worth Middle School shooting
University of Arkansas shooting
Santana High School shooting
Granite Hills High School shooting
Martin Luther King, Jr. High School shooting
Appalachian School of Law shooting
John McDonogh High School shooting
Red Lion Area Junior High School shootings
Case Western Reserve University shooting
Rocori High School shooting
Columbia High School shooting
Fairleigh Dickinson University shooting
Red Lake Senior High School massacre
Campbell County High School shooting
Pine Middle School shooting
Essex Elementary School shooting
Orange High School shooting
Platte Canyon High School shooting
Weston High School shooting
Amish school shooting
Henry Foss High School shooting
University of Washington shooting
Virginia Tech massacre
Delaware State University shooting
SuccessTech Academy shooting
Louisiana Technical College shooting
Mitchell High School shooting
E.O. Green School shooting
Northern Illinois University massacre
Davidson High School Shooting
Central High School shooting
Henry Ford High School shooting
2008 University of Central Arkansas shootings
Dillard High School shooting
Henry Ford Community College shooting
Hampton University shooting
Larose-Cut Off Middle School
Skyline College shooting
Deer Valley High School
I also apologize for David Koresh and the ATF.
Oh, and Oklahoma city…
And for good measure, Charles Manson (but not Marilyn Manson).
Ok now shut up a get in yer foxhole Brian Kool-Aid!
One Yield Regular: you just made a neologism….
Foxhole
Urban Dictionary here I come!
I wish someone would do a comparative study to prove (or disprove) once and for all that Muslims/Christians/Hindus/etc. go fucking nutso and shoot their coworkers at relatively the same rates. I mean, that’s basically what happened here. Some other dipshit is doing the same thing today in Orlando. In fact, I might go so far as to say that shooting ones coworkers is a great American tradition, along with lynchings, gay-bashing, and child porn.
Bad stuff happens all the time, not everything needs to be crammed into some bullshit political narrative.
Great Old Ones Party: I’m pretty sure you meant to say “fucking cunt”. I am in a bit of a contrarian and foul-mouthed mood today, so I’ll say it plain: “Brian Kilmead is a fucking cunt”. Wow, that feels better.
shortsshortsshorts: No, no; every time a Christianist commits an act of terrorism, it’s just a loan nut and it has nothing to do with their religion; however, every bad act by a Muslin is obviously the responsibility of the entire religion.
The only interpretation more sordid than that in which everything that happens can always be squared patly with one’s shallow worldview is the one that insists that with just a little more surveillance, a little more discrimination, a little more imprisonment without charges, everything will be just fine.
That said, I can’t quite agree with Fallows in regard to this incident — yes, ultimately the quest for meaning is empty; however, the pressures brought on someone who was cracking yet too valuable for the Army to let go should have raised some red flags. Not because of his religion or his Arabic descent — just because anyone in the military who’s stretched to the breaking point can be a danger to himself and others.
Speaking of which, can we get our 100,000+ troops the fuck out of Iraq, please? I mean, they’re holed up in bases right now — so why wait?
Next on FOX!
FEMA camps for Muslims?
When we lock them up aren’t we just coddling the enemy with 3 square meals a day and a protective fence?
@queeraselvis v 2.0 SERIOUSLY! What a rationed, well-thought process he had on this story. I liked him! For two minutes and twenty seven seconds I liked Geraldo.
Damn you, Fox. Damn you!
Someone should explain to Brian that back in the days when there were foxholes, British soldiers didn’t want any Irish in there with them. Would that be OK with him?
If Kilmeade thought he had a 1 in a bazillion chance of being deployed anywhere in this lifetime, much less a foxhole, he’d be on the Snowball Express to Canada faster than Geraldo could say Caramba!
I’m putting all pieces together here and… resurgence of the Know Nothing Party?
Fillmore/Palin 2012
BBC just quoted an American Marine who said the shooter was undoubtedly surrounded by fanatical Christians and it shouldn’t come as a surprise that might have pushed him over the edge.
queeraselvis v 2.0: Hey, Newt is the “moderate voice” of the Republican Party. Anything’s possible in Martin Luther King’s Nightmare.
Just an aside, Geraldo would make alot of money as a gay escort. Juz sayin…
One Yield Regular: awaiting approval:
FOXhole
(contraction of ‘FOX’ and ‘asshole’)
1. Any number of people that regularly whore themselves out to FOX News Channel as either special guests, analysts or experts. esp. on ‘FOX and Friends’.
2. Anyone appearing on FNC that holds an opinion that makes Glenn Beck look like a rational individual.
1. Did you hear what Karl Rove had to say about J-Lo’s dog’s new sweater? He is such a FOXhole.
2. Brian Kilmeade wants to kick all the muslims out of the military and set up selective breeding programs to prevent dementia in the elderly. What a FOXhole!
AnnieGetYourFun: Shoot him in the leg? At least shoot him in the junk so he can’t reproduce.
We don’t need a major change in federal policy every time the downside risks of an open society materialize.
The messy results of freedom. So messy!
depraved indifference engine: the great neo-con sage Donald Rumsfeld said it best.
“Freedom is untidy.”
shortsshortsshorts: Yes, I know a whole lot of bankers who should be publicly de-pantsed.
Just watched this video a second time through.
Gretchin Cuntrag Carlson, Go Die.
I like the Fallow piee above. Another good, substantive take:
http://www.newshoggers.com/blog/2009/11/the-aardvarks-ten-questions-about-combating-violent-extremism.html
wait wait wait…
i just watched the full clip and Geraldo first praises the our brave muslin warriors and then, less than thirty seconds later, called our military men and women “civil servants in uniform”?
they should rename the show “Two Cunts, a Dick and an Asshole”
sorry to be vulgar (on the wonkette of all places) but if ever there was an argument against the first ammendment, it’s FOX n Friends.
Great Old Ones Party: and, Libruls know nothing about Liberty.
At least there are no atheists in FoxHoles.
Just rats and trench foot and dead comrades.
If only the gun laws in Texas were more in line with what our founding fathers intended when they made the 2nd amendment. Right? Everyone should be packing at least 2 firearms, preferably 3. A clearly visible pearl handled revolver in a tooled leather holster with lots and lots of shiny bullets, a smaller semi auto pistol in an ankle holster that you can whip out while pretending to tie your shoe, and finally a teensy little pistol cleverly concealed betwixt your shoulder blades as a last resort.
This of course does not take into account the various rifles and shotguns every one should own to cover other situations, like when the towel heads break out of the FEMA camps and are roaming the country side looking for cous cous.
Look, Brian, you can either share the foxhole with the scary muslim man or the big flaming homo…it’s up to you, but you have to chose one.
There are no atheists in FOXholes.
Christianists, angry fists, and anal cysts, however, are prevalent.
Canadian Dracula: I did something seriously bad to my already bad joints and even with the muscle relaxers I had to take (I hate those things) I was able to laugh out loud at this one. Kudos. I’d steal it for my facebook page, but Mom scandalizes the little ones badly enough as it is.
I can’t believe I’m the first one to propose this, but when do we start “our” wonkette’s odds making on when the Teabaggers/FauxNews start screaming for Internment Camps for the you-know-who’s. Because we all know it’s just a matter of time.
PoignancySelz: Extemporanus: Room for two in your FOXhole? (No homo!)
Did the Army hold on to him because he was Muslim, or because they’re desperate for all the help they can get with recruiting hitting phenomenal lows, in spite of loosened standards and prior criminal convictions ignored, after years of mismanaged wars in Iraq and Afghanistan?
Gotta be the Muslim thing.
chascates: That makes as much sense as any other theory I have heard today, and much more than most.
If I was stuck working with a bunch of fundie Foxholes I might consider an armed rampage, for the the good of the country, you understand, and purely out of patriotism.
DustBowlBlues: The Siege is second only to Red Dawn on their list of “Top 10 Documentaries from the Future”.
The remake of Red Dawn is number 3 on the list, and it’s not even done filming yet.
WarAndG: This country is really violent, isn’t it? Reminds me of the morning I came down the stairs at the Seattle house to grab something to eat before I went to work, and my visiting English friends were sitting at the kitchen table, staring at the PI (morning newspaper), so white faced and stunned they couldn’t even drink their tea. “Look at this.” Andrew said and pointed to a story about a 14 year old in Yakima who had exercised his 2nd Amendment rights on his mother.
“Huh,” I said and drank my protein shake. My friends looked even more horrified. Lest they thought I was a horrible person, I quickly explained that a kis shooting Mom with one of dad’s handguns isn’t all that unusual in the USA. Besides the fact the boy was neither Muslim nor gay.
“in house eugenicist”
Oh, James, that’s for the ages.
Great Old Ones Party: Can I get that on a mug?
Does Kilmeade look like Steve Doocy? Because in my mind everyone at FOX looks like Steve Doocy.
chascates: For some time now, I’ve been reading article in the CS Monitor about the Evangelicalizing (my word, not theirs) of the military. And Jeff Skulleldldl–whatever–you know, the lefty who wrote the book about Blackwater, says the soldiers are over there pushing Bibles at Muslims. And the few Christians who are still alive, because they look Arab and aren’t fundies.
How out of control will the right take this story? Even I can’t imagine. And I can imagine a lot about this band of lunatics, esp. since I live among so many of them.
WarAndG: Crap, I wasted a half-hour trying to anagram that…
I understand his fear. If I was stuck in a foxhole with Kilmeade, I’d probably shoot him, too.
DustBowlBlues: Just read that and obviously should have said they looked horrified at my blase reaction, not the fact I was drinking a protein shake.
Potater: I don’t watch Fox. Ever. My blood pressure can’t take it, and neither can my mental health. But is Gretchen Carlson the little bitch with the platinum chin-length pageboy haircut, who simpers and smirks and rolls her eyes and sighs and shrugs and looks flabbergasted and does all these facial expressions reminiscent of a particularly bitchy High School Soash Queen mocking a nerd?
Hate her.
Great Old Ones Party: Sorry - in meetings! Yes, by all means. Happy to be of service.
I used FoxHole on my fb page so I’ve fired the first volley in the war of words, labeling the teevee dipshit FoxHole and FoxHoles. Hmm. Doesn’t sound as harsh as I’d wished.
Fundamentally, the USA is a wholly owned subsidiary of multi-national corporations, isn’t it? And all these idiots are just their puppets, aren’t they? And the end of the great experiment that Madison anticipated would take place 50 years after ratification of the constitution has actually been delayed 200+ years, but is finally upon us, isn’t it?
It’s okay. You can tell me. I feel so crummy it won’t make any difference to me now, but it’s kind of shitty for my kids.
NPR just interviewed an Army officer who said there are established methods for dealing with harassment in the service and this guy should have just followed them. The speaker must have been a general with that attitude. There are rules against sexual harassment but I doubt there is any female enlistees, NCOs, or officers that haven’t been harassed at least once in their military service. The same for racial harassment, gays or lesbians, or whatever. Just having a policy doesn’t eliminate the problem. And a lot of higher-ups will just ignore it or even turn on the complainer.
There are no problems. Don’t make waves.
AnnieGetYourFun: Any reasonable person would shoot him in the head repeatedly. Then piss on him to wash away the blood.
Jim, I saw what you did with that pretty wingnut talking head’s name–twice, counting the tag.
WarAndG: You could have saved yourself the time you spent compiling that list of school, etc. shootings.
Just refer to that kind of thing collective as “2nd Amendment Freedom Events.”
SayItWithWookies: I agree. Further, whether or not there are enough dead, white bodies for the cable news media to sensationalize shouldn’t dissuade conservations about lax gun and harassment policies, lack of emergency preparedness protocols, the need to provide expanded access to quality mental health care services, reduce stigma, etc.
Since my brother was shot gangbangers in South LA, I never see the “Meaninglessness of Shootings.” High strung students, burnt-out service members, and elder paranoiacs constantly shooting up everything everywhere should not be an acceptably normal part of any society, even one as fucked up as ours.
Min: Hell, if I was stuck in fucking heaven with that guy, I’d probably shoot him. Likely after somebody else did. Or hell, also.
SayItWithWookies: Keep an angry, disturbed psychiatrist. Fire the gay Arabic translators.
chascates: I’m a female and I spent 20 years in the Air Force. I can honestly say that I was never harassed once. That means, NEVER.
Served with Lindsey Graham too — prosecuted some court-martials with him — in his decent years, before he turned into a prick. Even went TDY with him. Maybe that was my harassment, but I didn’t know it yet.
Gumboz1953: My apologies for painting with a broad brush. I meant that although the service has rules and regulations for almost any contingency that doesn’t eliminate the occurrence.
And on the subject of sexual harassment and a great look into how things went in the early days of Operation Enduring Freedom I suggest:
Love My Rifle More Than You: Young and Female in the U.S. Army by Kayla Williams.
Extemporanus: Only one thing more sickening; FOXXHole.
chascates: Well, come to think of it, you shouldn’t apologize. The Air Force wasn’t really the military, except maybe for the lunatics in SAC. Where I was, for far too long.
Gumboz1953: Any time you have to always wait around for the simplest thing, stand in line for hours for no apparent reason, made to do what you’re told, then get bitched at even when you did what you were told, and can’t leave when you want to, that’s the military.
Extemporanus: How soon we forget the maestro, Jack Abramoff, and his true patriotic contribution. Liberty and Freedom and Freedom and Liberty.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg5frun6NWo
Its ‘Muslin,’ Jerry Rivers, you dumb spic.
shortsshortsshorts: This
iolanthe:
Shes got a huge rack and a sweet fat ass,also.
Or, to put it another way:
“could it be that the military was exercising PURE FLAT OUT PRAGMATISM in not approaching as seriously as they would have if he had not been a LIFER WHOSE EXPENSIVE MEDICAL DEGREE THE ARMY PAID FOR AND DAMMIT WE NEED SHRINKS ON THE GROUND AND ARMY DOCS ARE ALWAYS A LITTLE STRANGE?”
We may have to wait on the analysis of a real psychiatrist: objective Charles Krauthammer.
From the headline, one wonders whose discharge Brian Kilmeade seeks. His own, to track down the source of urethral burning? Or that of other(s)?
WarAndG: Point? Those non-Muslim shooters and mass killers were not terrorists. Were not. They were just having a really, really bad day. Like when your cable box goes on the fritz. E.g.. the ex-Army, Irish Catholic, Timothy McVeigh.
An aside: 10% of the Phillipino population is Muslim. Is it time for Malkin to take a loyalty oath? Yes/No.
“Could it be that out military was also exercising political correctness?”
Fun fact: Lee Harvey Oswald was white and an ex-Marine.
chascates: Let’s try that Muslim psychiatrist Radovan Karadzic. Oh, shucks, our mass murderer is actually Serbian Christian Orthodox. Another group to keep under the Fox News political correctness microscope.
Wait, we don’t already have “special” briefings for Muslins?!?! Why are they even in the army!!! Moses smell the roses. People are so stupid. Just freakin’ stupid.
Just so you guys know, Geraldo has been subtlely mophing into something less than insane after his Hurricane Katrina reporting, and in the very early days of his career, he actually wasn’t a horrible person as far as his reporting slant.
BTW, Foxhole? Is that what they are calling the anuses and rectums of FOX employees, these days? I suspect Killmeade has been “deployed” (i.e. deployed himself) into quite a few “FOXholes” over his lifetime and will deploy himself into quite a few more or have someone deployed into him.
Aren’t double entendres just the bomb-diggity, y’all?
i hope kilmeade tucks his toesies under the sheets tonight, lord knows them muzlims are gunna come out from under the bed or (foxhole) and give hime a swirly
dum librul: Kilmeade, this is a HESCO gabion/’Concertainer’…here, get into this one, the backhoe will be here any minute to fill’er up.
desertwind: Hasan’s buds at Walter Reed should have bought him the 36-disc M*A*S*H - Martinis and Medicine Complete Collection anthology (suicide is painless…) and a snazzy keffiyah for Eid.
This might have been just enough to keep his Jarlsberg from sliding off his Captain’s Wafer…
DustBowlBlues: FOXhole published on Urban Dictionary
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Foxhole
DustBowlBlues: yeah, pretty much - that’s one of the reasons I didn’t have any kids.