Sen. Mary Landrieu, a terrible person: “I think when people hear ‘public option’ they hear ‘free health care.’ Everybody wants free health care. Everybody wants health care they don’t have to pay for. The problem is, is that we in governments and business have to pick up the tab and as individuals. So I’m not at all surprised that the public option’s been sold as free health care. But there is no free lunch.” GOODNESS.

People, such as Mary Landrieu, seem not to understand that the public option is not, as some have been proposing, “Medicare for All” — how would that make this an easier sell, exactly? — where you tax incomes or payrolls a bit more to provide a government-funded health care program to all. (Not that that would be a bad idea! But we’re clearly well beyond that debate right now.) It is allowing the government to sell a basic insurance plan at or near cost, without a profit motive. It is an important thing to include if you are requiring individuals to carry health insurance, which is a necessary step, but one that if done incorrectly could end up as a BOONDOGGLE. It would help contain costs in the long-term. It would not be welfare queens trying to take yr jobs and munnies.

Once again, Ronald Reagan is DEAD.

Mary Landrieu Is Against The Public Option, But Does She Know What It Is? [Matt Yglesias]

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  1. Screw this. Lets just start over and do what the enemies of reform are accusing congressional dems of doing. Lets have Medicare For All! I’d even pay premiums just so my money is no longer going to execs at United Health Care.

  2. sure, i could start eating my lunch instead of hurling it into the river. if i did that, though, i’d be getting a lunch without having to pay anything additional for it, and as we all know there’s no free lunch, therefore i should keep hurling my lunch into the river. QED.

  3. We’re already spending the money, you stupid twunt. The difference is, when my cellphone gives me face cancer, under the current system I die bankrupt in pain and my kids never get to go to college. Under the proposed system I die bankrupt on oxy and my kids can afford nightschool once they hit their 40’s. Go eat shit.

  4. Landrieu and Blanche Lincoln were seperated at birth. Both need to get the Chamber of Commerce’s dick out of their mouths and actually try to educate their dumbass constituents. Who, by the way, account for about the poorest and unhealthiest in the fucking nation. Horrible, horrible public representatives both. And cowards to boot. Get it right or go to hell.

  5. Keep in mind that Mary is in politics because she comes from a very famous line of politicians in Louisiana. She’s pretty much the Pete Rose Jr. (or George W. Bush) of Louisiana politics–got where she is because of who she’s related to, but actually sucks at what she does.

  6. “The problem is, is that . . .”

    The problem is, is that Senator Mary is, is, an imbecile and a crook. The other problem is, is that she is, is SO at home in the Senate.

  7. And I’m not at all surprised that Sen. Cuntface never bothers to mention the anti-trust exemption her pimps enjoy, which is exactly why a strong public is vital to the working of real reform.

    Then again, we could stop pissing $500+billion down the crapper every year on killing machines & occupations which would go some way toward paying for health coverage for all.

  8. I’m totally down with Medicare for all, and I wouldn’t expect a free lunch. Raise the deduction to 5% or whatever it takes. I’m sure you can’t make it more expensive than the current healthcare system and insurance payment by me and my employer. I don’t even mind paying extra for those less fortunate than me.

  9. You know what else government picked up the tab for and gave out as some big huge free lunch? Rebuilding Katrina-ravaged Louisiana and New Orleans.

  10. Just read somewhere that 90% of the health care market in Alabama is controlled by one company.

    God, I love the “free market” — it gives me high-fructose corn syrup to eat and, when the corn syrup clogs up my arteries, it allows me to choose from 1 doctor at 1 hospital that my health care plan will refuse to pay when the bill comes due because I had a pre-existing condition, to wit, clogged arteries.

  11. What Mary Wants To Say And Cannot: The public option will sneak into your child’s bedroom at night to suffocate the baby. If you keep touching the public option, it will make your palms grow hair. Also, the public option encourages minorities and teenagers to make babies out of wedlock.

  12. Senator Landrieu has been so very effective in her home state that we can lern ourselfs from her words. The beautifully kept levees, fully insured populace, and sparking cities attest to her excellence in governance. Landrieu for President! Also too!

  13. I believe this intersection of political power and the shameless defense of profiteering interests over the public good is known in other countries by the quaint term “corruption.”

  14. I believe the honorable Senator Landrieu is, in fact, signalling her own intention to become a free lunch, notwithstanding the fact that no one has offered and the standard Minneapolis Airport’s Woman’s Lavoratories afford neither room for a wide stance nor the appropriate commensuration for such an act…

  15. Hey, yeah, David that is an “interesting perspective that we haven’t heard, comparing the public option to just ‘free lunch'”.

    Well, it IS interesting, if instead what you mean by interesting is completely ridiculous.

  16. [re=441870]McDuff[/re]: Last I checked 90% does not = 100%. So mebbe you’d like to stand in the corner with the other communist here, that Balls fella. Senator Cuntface would be appalled at your lack of gratitude. I suppose you’re gonna tell me them hospitals in ‘Bama ain’t got no emergency rooms, neither?

  17. Mary doesn’t have to run for the Senate again until 2014. By that time Dick Cheney will be president again and, through his imperial powers under marshall law, will abolished all islamo/socialist programs, including free lunch-health care reform. So, Wasilla Teabagger Freeber does she care if the Public Option is enacted?

  18. [re=441870]McDuff[/re]: That’s because the federal government prohibits companies from offering insurance across state lines. It’s not a free market.

    Oh, and corn syrup is in everything because the feds subsidize U.S. corn and have tariffs on imports of cane sugar. Also not a free market.

  19. [re=441968]automaton[/re]: And if they could sell insurance across state lines, we would just get to add more shit to the pile that is already there.

    The only way to use for profit health insurance companies is to abuse them like the Swiss.
    They place draconian regulations on these bastards that limits their profits so they dont steal money and kill people or drive them into bankruptcy with medical bills.

    Yes, we should all become Swiss for healthcares.

  20. Not three years ago, this corporate ‘ho, asked Congress for $40 billion for Army Corps of Engineers’ projects – 10 times the annual Corps budget for all the United States and 16 times the amount the Corps said it would need to protect New Orleans – and then vowed in the press to fight for every dollar. (Louisiana is 24th in federal tax receipts.)

    There’s a difference between dumb and willfully ig’nant. Manje krot ‘ho.

  21. [re=441968]automaton[/re]: I find that argument hard to buy, since I kept my exact same policy when I moved from CA to NV. Same old BC/BS BS, same name, same policy number. A couple years later it changed to Anthem BC/BS, but the change was in name only…

  22. [re=442076]Jim89048[/re]: ummm, no. BC/BS USED to be a non profit.
    After they were bought by Anthem they became a for profit corporation that is traded publicly on the stock exchange.
    If I were you, I would read carefully every sheet of paper they send you.
    They have been screwing me for years, and I am fucking tired of it.

    Statistical underwriting is all the rage now on Wall Street.

  23. [re=441968]automaton[/re]: Not quite true, insurance companies sell across state lines, they just use a variation of the “holding company” dodge the banks have. “XYZ Insurance Corp of Iowa”, “XYZ Insurance Corp of Texas”, etc. can all be owned by “XYZ Insurance, Inc”, along with senators. As for ag subsidies, both major parties believe that no farmer should go hungry, particularly ones listed on the stock exchange.

  24. [re=442078]sati demise[/re]: Now I’m bummed. I never read anything they send me, mostly because I don’t have any choice in coverage anyway. I’ve always had “pre-existing conditions” and have always been uninsureable privately, so was basically forced to work for a governmental agency who couldn’t deny me coverage (or employment, mostly). When they pushed me to the curb over 2 years ago, I got to take my health insurance with me. It’s paid off, even through Anthem.

  25. I don’t really believe that Congress can set up a public option that will employ highly skilled, pure-hearted, public-spirited managers to compete as “just another player” on a level playing field. It will be a disastrously managed health-care version of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and it will implode in a matter of time, just like Medicare and Social Security will. Then, Aetna and Kaiser and whatever companies remain will run to Congress for bailouts, they will get them, and then they get back to the business of fucking us.

    The insurance companies are so far in bed with the doctors and the Democrats that it’s preposterous to think they’ll do anything that allows for innovation and new players in the market. They’re going to freeze out competition and divide the pie amongst themselves, and costs will continue to rise.

    Repeal the anti-trust exemption, let people purchase insurance from companies in other states, set up a framework for true competition rather than this corporatist patchwork of bullshit that we have now.

  26. [re=442116]Jim89048[/re]: Thats because you originally signed up through a group plan. If you bought it individually, you would be screwed. I hope this legislation changes this.
    [re=442157]ellie[/re]: call her and tell her your problems. Tell her if we want to use for profit insurers we will have to regulate like the Swiss.
    The public option is much easier and faster.
    All the medical bankruptcies will stop.
    People will be able to be more entrepreneurial if health insurance is portable, or you know there are other good plans individuals can buy between jobs. How many are stuck at a job because of health insurance?
    I cant believe you sent money to that whore either…she got like 12 whorediamonds from the health insurance corprotions!

  27. Senator Landrieu has always been just a few brain cells over the threshold where you can be certified a clinical idiot. Louisiana just doesn’t care. There’s not a capable politician in the state, no Blanco, not Mitch (her brother), not Nagin, not Jindal, not Vitter, etc…

  28. Probably we should expel from the Democratic Party any Senator who writes WSJ editorial columns that that newspaper is comfortable with.

    Louisiana is ground zero for diabetes, hypertension, petrochemical cancer, etc. and Landrieu just mouths platitudes about “business”.

  29. Back in the day when she was a New Orleans real-estate agent, our pro-business heroine Mary would NEVER allow any of her clients to buy that evil government-run FLOOD insurance. Nooooo, that would have been so very WRONG!!

  30. [re=442135]clientnumber8[/re]: There is no magic “competitive formula” that will miraculously incentive private insurance companies to transform themselves into “highly skilled, pure-hearted, public-spirited managers” either, so your skepticism is misplaced.

    FYR, Freddie and Fannie are public/private government-sponsored entities created as money management tools (increase the supply of money for lending). What we are talking about *here* is social insurance through publicly financing service (health care) delivery, aka the “public option” vs. whatever the fuck you are talking about.

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