Christmas seasons starts earlier every year, they say! At malls and stuff! They start selling Christmas things earlier every year! Ha ha ha it is the funniest trend. But what of its corollary, the War on Christmas, the wingnuts’ seasonal proxy war to defend its precious nativism from the clutches of terrorists and House Democrats? It starts earlier every year, too, and is starting ultra-early this year, as we all know that this new “president” will try to pass legislation to abolish Christmas, its conifers, its temporary retail shacks, and the Christians themselves. Do you have any white grandmothers, and do they have AOL accounts? Because those inboxes are likely to have at least six or seven “FW: KENYNA COMMIE BAAMA 2 MURDER JEEBUS’ PRESENTS DAY” sitting near the top of the tray, right now.
The White House Historical Association has been receiving calls and emails about an alleged Obama decree that the Christmas trees in the White House would now be known as “holiday trees.” And artists submitting designs for ornaments on the Blue Room tree were not allowed to depict Christian themes.
“It’s strange,” said Maria Downs, the historical association’s spokeswoman. “They’re almost saying, ‘Are you aware of this?’”
One of the chain emails circulating around in-boxes claims that “a friend at church who is a very talented artist” got a letter from the White House saying not to send any ornaments painted with a religious theme.
“Just thought you should know what the new residents in the WH plan for the future of America,” concludes the email hoax. “If you missed his statement that ‘we do not consider ourselves a Christian Nation’ this should confirm that he plans to take us away from our religious foundation as quickly as possible.”
Ooh, who is this talented artist “friend at church” getting Muslim-y letters from the White House! What a connection! NEW YORK TIMES ARE YOU ON THIS?
Anyway, be alert for this specific comedy over the next couple of months: When granny passes it on to you, you go ahead and pass it right to tips@wonkette.com.
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Our country has become an unfunny freakshow.
Where WOULD Jesus shop?
Looks like Will Ferrell & Glen Beck — is Will hawking a new movie? Perhaps a redo of the story of Brian?
Remember, children, nobody hates Christmas and Jesus like negroes.
What, these guys want to put the S & M back into xmas.
I’m getting my wife a new “Melons McCain” push-up for Xmas.
I hope at least one White House tree will have a Megan McCain theme.
Follow up: Would Jesus ever think he has to buy anyone anything for Christmas? I mean he’s Jesus for Christ sake. He already DID that one big favor.
Oh Christ, I completely failed to see Barry’s first ever WOC on my calendar. Is it too late to get a card?
Bullsh*t. Put the freaking Saturnalia back in the Winter Soltice, which is what the real holiday is supposed to be. There was never any real Christ’s birthday in December.
If they want to observe Christmas the way the early Americans did, they’d have to banish it. It was illegal for the first hundred or so years after the Pilgrims landed.
Actually waging a war on Christmas sounds like too much work, and I am reasonably fond of presents and roast goose. If there were an online War on Christmas wargame I would certainly be willing to play. Particularly if I get to waterboard Hannity to make him give up Limpy’s hideout.
How long until he have a photoshopped, Obama as the Grinch picture floating around the internet and on posters at Tea Bagger protests.
I heard that instead of traditional Christmas ornaments, they are going to decorate the “White House” “Holiday Tree” with sex toys and use lingerie instead of garlands.
Would Jesus ever think he has to buy anyone anything for Christmas?
Nah. He was probably pissed because all his cheap relatives would only gave him one present and told him it was for Christmas AND his birthday.
Accordion-o-rama: http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-51829269804438_2072_30260583
Why did you make me do that?
Maybe it’s just a mullet and aggro-trim goatee, and nothing more, but the Jesus’ look makes me wonder if he’s ever stood in a lineup for witness identification.
All I want for Christmas this year is a glass ornament with the Jesus-Cthulhu painting on it.
WarAndG: problemwithcaring: Well, at least one year I heard he bought Mary Magdalene for the Dirty Dozen.
Remember that last year the RNC sent out cards that said ‘Holiday Greetings.’
UnAmerican Jesus-haters.
Is our military prepared for a war with Santa?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrBhRUycV1w
germansteel: I don’t know. When I look at Meghan holding up Andy Warhol in one hand and pushing up her great white whale breasts with the other she might as well be saying, Take these, all of you, and drink from them, do this in memory of me and I would join her religion…for about twenty or thirty minutes. And then maybe again about an hour later.
Knowing Hopey he will try to negotiate with Christmas first.
i’m not a slut.
Can’t they cook up a Thanksgiving controversy, first?
Yet again we will be celebrating Festivus. I say X out the Christ in Christmas! Die! Xmas Die!
Suds McKenzie: *Joy to the world*! Tres, tres bon!
Accordion-o-rama: Ho ho ho! Merry Titsmas!
These would be the perfect ornament (SFW)
“Put the Christ back in Christmas”?
Gesh, the JEWS are taking over EVERYTHING!
What?
He was?
Oh.
Never mind.
(Nice hats, though, fellas.)
What if they declared a war on Christmas, and nobody showed up to fight? Then it would be just like Easter.
Great, another two and a half months of this. And by this, I mean Reptilians who spit on the poor and the sick, and then whine about “holiday trees” and the meaning of Christmas.
I am a Christian and only an environmentalist in the laziest sense of the word (I often feel bad for polar bears) but it still pisses me off that such majestic, oxygen-giving trees dying every year - just so that American’s can beat off to the idea that our leader shares our warrior-Baby-Jeebus lust fantasy - is not enough for these folks.
What could a President do to prove unequivocally they are not “at war” with Christmas?
problemwithcaring: What could a President do to prove unequivocally they are not “at war” with Christmas?
Obviously releasing a cartoon would do it. An animated fable of Obama as, say, an ox chasing lots of…ummm…Roman rats out the stable so it would be safe for Jesus to get born there. (I don’t know if there were Romans in Bethlehem but that could be discussed in an education package sent to schools when the cartoon is released and anyway it would be too hard to explain in fable form that Jewish rats were only bad Jewish rats if they didn’t notice that baby Jesus was glowing and therefore the Lord.)
On the First Day of Christmas, Free Market Jeebus gave to me…
A marble bust of Hannity.
On the Second Day of Christmas, Free Market Jeebus gave to me…
2 Massive Boobies
On the Third Day of Christmas, Free Market Jeebus gave to me…
3 Chins of Limbaugh
On the Fourth Day of Christmas, Free Market Jeebus gave to me…
Ugh…tedious. I’m on board, dudes. Christmas is TOAST!
Way Cool Larry: Extemporanus: I could say that I posted mine because it more accurately matched the b&w tone of her titpic, but that would make me a liar and s sloppy reader.
Obama is an appeaser!! You just know he’s gonna cave to Jebus.
Yes, I have a white mother in law with an AOL account and yes I am prepared to be innundated with her idiotic emails.
Your best bet is to do what do - PHONE HER after you receive it and tell her the email she sent had a virus and she better shut her machine off and call GeekSquad immediately.
No, they will have the Christian-themed ornaments. They will just be hung on the lowest branches of the tree, so Bo can be brought in to urinate on them.
He will then receive a NEA grant for this performance.
Shouldn’t Mister Chin Butt be dressed as a baby? Didn’t the crown of thorns thing come towards the end of the story?
You know what I really hate about this War on Christmas nonsense? It totally crowds out the War on Boxing Day.
SayItWithWookies: Shock and Arbor Day, baby!
Can’t wait for my Republican aunt to send an email that a star and crescent will adorn the top of the holiday tree. She always sends emails to the Muslim side of the family that start with “While I respect your religion…” She hasn’t sent an “Obama is the enemy within” and “Michelle ate all the caviar at the Waldorf-Astoria” email in a while.
Snarkalicious: But, I do love the little twinkling lites, and HO scale trains, and, best yet, that Jenna Jameson scene with Santa’s helpers, yummy.
Think, sheeples!….Obamamas….
Obama had a white grandmother, and look what happened to her!
chascates: The crown of thorns kept making me think I believe the Right embraced the Mel Gibson re-imagineering of the endy part of the gospel to include buckets of blood and torn skin and bone peeking through so at least one of those guys should have hired Rick Baker to do some serious FLAYED FACE makeup.
you cannot be serious: Not his decision to begin with. Dick Cheneye, perhaps could have just declared the war and got it over with. Barry, on the other hand, is invested enough in the principles of the US Constitution that he knows he must wait for Congressional action This stall-out is, therefore, more to due with the treachery of the Blue Dogs than anything else. Harry Reid is such a pussy.
Hey everybody…there’s a real live birther imp trapped at the bottom of the Orly post! Hurry!
One of the forced-birth organizations could make some money selling little aborted fetuses as ornaments.
Christmas comes but once a year, which is one time more than either of those two losers.
Have a holly, jolly, Barrymas…..I’m pretty sure I’m going to enjoy this, especially if rum is involved…. Just the sight of those crowns of thorns on the graceful ox faces of the nutwing right already has given me a festive goose…
PoignancySelz: You should see the sequel with Stormy Daniels and the Abominable Snow Man!
user-of-owls: Don’t get cocky u-o-u, It could be a trap! But, I was just yonder.
OKAY GUYS I THREW GRANDMA INTO THE FIRE READY TO GO NOW.
user-of-owls: damn, now I got a choose, Stormy or the troll?!??
chascates: And they could make even more money if they sold aborted soldier fetus ornaments.
Oh, wait…
Extemporanus: With “Jesus Hates Fags” logos!
Extemporanus: “Available in brown model.”
Always in stock.
problemwithcaring: shoot a reindeer with ted nugent?
user-of-owls: Hey, I wonder if these guys were in any Ye Olde Xmas Porn? But I wouldn’t know, I don’t have anything in the gay fisting genre.
I celebrated X-mas early this year. Thanks Meg’s!
PoignancySelz: Honestly, do yourself a favor and don’t Google “Frosty” and “Two Popsicle Sticks, One Snowman” if your childhood memories mean anything to you.
Hey you know what would really cheese off redstate? Just for laughs, let’s move Christmas… I mean Xmas, to Barry’s birthday. And ban all Christian… I mean Xian symbols everywhere and forever, and then - here’s the really funny part - let’s institute Marxism. Won’t that be a hoot! Then when redstate gets all mad and shouty we can point and laugh cause ha ha jokes on them!
So guess who originally banned religious ornaments on the Capitol Christmas Tree?
Why, G. Dubya Shrub! Twice!
In 2008: “Ornaments cannot reflect a religious ot political theme.”
In 2007: “Ornament[s] with religious themes are not acceptable.”
Thank Cthulhu Jeebus that snopes.com is all over this: http://www.snopes.com/politics/christmas/ornaments.asp
This year’s Capitol Christmas Tree ornamental theme is: Gullible RedState Tards Who Cannot Afford Healthcare Or Original Thinking.
“And artists submitting designs for ornaments on the Blue Room tree were not allowed to depict Christian themes.” Only ornaments displaying the number 666 will be allowed. And no more Bo, only mean Rottweilers will be allowed.
memzilla: Erick son of Erick son of Erick etc. is going to be red-faced when he sees this.
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So, those historically-challenged FOX viewers want to go back to ‘the time of the Founders’, like, say, when Christmas was NOT openly celebrated by the Calvinist-leaning majority?????
For the first 150 years of this country, civil society thought Christmas was too pagan, too outlandish, too vulgar, (too Palinesque?)
Those folks were smarter is some ways, indeed.
problemwithcaring: It’s a simple matter of supply and demand:
Year after year, the browns produce a far greater quantity of aborted soldier fetuses than the marketplace can realistically absorb.
Plus, they look kind of like cat turds, and cat turds just aren’t very Christmas-y.
Ooh, who is this talented artist “friend at church” getting Muslim-y letters from the White House!
This guy.
Extemporanus: “cat turds just aren’t very Christmas-y.”
Au contraire. Wrapped in gold foil and packed in a pink canister, they make lovely holiday gifts.
I work for an elected official and I have actually had to answer emails from people who believe this stuff…I had to refer them to a press release from the National Christmas Tree Association… http://www.christmastree.org/09_PR3.pdf
Ya Know…this is what I love about Halloween… You get to dress up, party, drink and scare the kiddies without all that “true meaning of the holiday” crap!
Click: Merry Catsmas to all, and to all a good night!
How is it that the “War on Christmas” didn’t make it into the Ox vs. Rat video? That would have been even more hilarious…but maybe they’re saving it for a sequel.
WarAndG: In the temple, of course. Right after changing some money.
Maybe I’m really old, but I remember my parents’ church’s vocal complaints about commercialization RUINING Christmas. I guess we’ve come full circle and now commercialization IS Christmas and you damn heathenmuslinatheists better not get in the way of the damn greeter tellin’ every last frazzled parent hunting for the false shortage must-have toy of the season that it is Christmas, not New Year’s or some twice-older Jewish holiday.
The fact that the wreaths, the holly, the mistletoe AND the gifts are all Pagan traditions of the solstice. Well, ignorance is part of the story here. Always is.
Jesus at Walmart……
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li295V7oVWE&feature=player_embedded#
Yep, right next to that Chimpy McFlightsuit doll and that Saint Raygoon statue near the Jerry Falwell donation can for starving evangelicals in Norway.
Wait for Hannity to claim Obama will hang his Nobel Peace prize on the tree.
If we had Christmas every 5 years or so - would anybody notice?
Screw it, let’s just call it Marxist Day and let them have coronaries, enough of this BS.
Jesus at Walmart……
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li295V7oVWE&feature=player_embedded#
Yep, right next to that Chimpy McFlightsuit doll and that Saint Raygoon statue near the Jerry Falwell donation can for starving evangelical parapalegic drunk drivers from Norway.
09.35.42 11/24/09: The first photo of the WH Anti-Christmas tree is released.
09.36.12 11/24/09: A crack squad of sharp eyed members of the Baby Jebus Birfday Defense League begin checking the kerning for signs of not quite religious-y enough ornaments.
09.48.07 11/24/09: The first member of the BJBDL spots an ornament depicting a not-white Jesus.
09.52.23 11/24/09: First responders across the country receive reports that people’s heads have started exploding.
Ooh, who is this talented artist “friend at church” getting Muslim-y letters from the White House!
This one.
Way Cool Larry: That they stole from Republican politicians.
I haven’t even read the comments yet, because I don’t know where to start. Who says Fridays are slow news days? Not with Jim and Julie on the case, topped off by the most unflatering photograph of Bible Spice, ever.
Now, where were we? Oh, right. The war against the war on Xmas which appears to begin on Your News HO picturing new men in the new Santa Claus hats, which look uncomfortable. Or maybe that’s just me.
(What? You news HQ? Well, pardon me.)
Extemporanus: Needs more litter… http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/7197/roca.jpg
WarAndG: I like your comment so much, I”m going to send it on to my pastor. You don’t mind, do you? She’s had a bad month.
Neilist: good lord you’re unfunny. stop already. really.
shadowMark: problemwithcaring: “What could a President do to prove unequivocally they are not “at war” with Christmas?”
Be a Republican.
Extemporanus: my parents’ cat used to eat tinsel off the tree and then would shit out tinsel-laced cat turds that would dangle off its ass like tin cans from a wedding limo.
So i think cat turds can be very xmassy and festive to boot!
I can’t wait until the day when the war on christmas starts in february. bring it on bitches!
Jesus looks like a pro wrestler…
Neilist: thud
SOooooooooooo, I read Peggington Noonington’s column.
I thought, hey, if the Jim Newell show is on the road for the weekend, maybe I can fill in.
In the days of the New Deal, in the 1930s, government growth was virgin territory. It was like pushing west through a continent that seemed new and empty. There was plenty of room to move. The federal government was still small and relatively lean, the income tax was still new.
Poor peggy, so jaded. Always the coming and going, and such as.
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It’s a sad sign of just how kooky Fox News has become when they interview two guys wearing crowns of thorns and it takes me this long to notice something odd about it.
Merry Marxmas everyone!
It’s almost like our overlords deliberately hung the fruit higher before they checked out for the weekend.
Darkness: “Maybe I’m really old, but I remember my parents’ church’s vocal complaints about commercialization RUINING Christmas.”
Some of us in the antiquated mainstream denomination churches currently under attack from our own members (because the peace loving preacher is a girl and not war-loving enough to be patriotic) still try to take the retail out of Xmas. And decry the fact Republicans want Walmart to carry the Christian message through old people with shitty pensions (and crappy retirment jobs) saying “Merry Christmas, Welcome to Walmart” at the door. Conservaxmas.
These nutjobs are officially no longer funny.
It’s even worse this weekend because we are boycotting the NFL.
Damn the Left, the Unions, Al Sharpton, etc. In fact, damn everything, except what I have said for the last 40 years.
DustBowlBlues: This is why I still occasionally have a tender moment of fondness for churches during the holidays. . . from the outside, when they are casting their colorful light across the glistening snow. I’m never tempted to ruin the impression by going inside
ifthethunderdontgetya”: I wouldn’t feel right today talking about Peggy or Peggy’s words unless she posts a picture of herself holding up something–any Peggy totem will do–in one hand and has her other forearm under her breasts pushing them up, humping them up higher and higher into the moonlight until we all get tumescent over them. For a while longer maybe just for the weekend I want to live in Meghan’s world. Maybe Peggy would say betwixt and between Meghan’s worlds.
DustBowlBlues: Darkness: For the best ‘old-fashioned’ Christmas I refer you to that scene in ‘The Rounders’ (the one with Henry Fonda & Glen Ford) when the cowboys, living at a ‘high & lonesome’ cattle post are visited by friends with food, music, alcohol, and a tree.
shadowMark: I have a feeling, deep down inside of me, that Peggington Noonington will NOT be posting any pictures of herself and said boobage.
Ronald Wilson Reagan (666) stopped by while I was dreaming, and informed me of this.
Then he continued on with his Cthulhu errands.
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Jesus HATES the poor and sick. Reference the scripture: Pubichare 2:16, God hates sinners, and cripples, and the poor. Thou shalt smite the poor and crippled. Thou shalt futher give thousest money to the jews (Godman Sachs) for thouest is the face of the Lordiest Amen.
Well if he didn’t deny it, then it must be true. And if he DID deny it, well, we all know he’s lying.
Now, if a Judge orders ORLY Taintz to pay 20,000 whore diamonds or shut up about the evil jeebus plot, THEN it’s a conspiracy!
Hey, does this mean Obama was behind that NC church burning bibles on Halloween? Why does he have to ruin all the holiday fun, damnit!
To the Jesus with the handle bars: Why so serious?
Christmas lights, on the trailers, are just like hte holocaust all over again@@ Stop the xmas lights!!! It’s not a tradition by poor people..its an insult to the JEWS…and it’s rearing it’s bigoted head next month. Stop! Stop it now@
alright WONKETTE, prepare for the insanity that I receive daily
Little known fact, early Christians were communists. They sold their possessions and gave to each according to his needs. Further, if you read the letters of Paul, he makes a point to caution his brethren about elevating the wealthy and well connected in their congregations, material wealth being counter indicative of a spiritual life. The rich weren’t to be shunned, of course, but they held the same place a poor man held in the eyes of God.
That, of course, is a steaming pile of shit as far as modern conservative Christians are concerned. Many of these lost souls clamor for a “Christian” government, without ever realizing that government would be Socialist by definition. The prisons would be emptied out, the hospitals would be free, no one would want for food or clothing or shelter.
I think they worship Satan, or at the very least Mammon and just call him Jesus. I also think that down deep, they know this and don’t care. With that in mind, it’s not surprising every year they claim their is “a war on Christmas”, as the rest of the country becomes more mindful of what it means to be a Christian (peace on earth, goodwill to men, charity to those less fortunate), the rights cherished beliefs do actually come under attack. (Rule through fear, I got mine-fuck you).
problemwithcaring: A huge creche on the White House lawn–with moving parts! And of course Santa and the reindeer on the roof. And tons of colored lights. Nothing says Jesus like colored lights.
dijetlo: From what I’ve rad women, at that time, were often the ones who directed & lead the services. With that kind of background you’d think Jesus was some kind of Jew or something.
Aaaaaaaaaugh! I just ran into someone from “the real world: DC”. I will wash my hands. Promise.
chascates: Exactly.
That knowledge would require actually reading the NT, instead of, you know, just going for the cheap talking points publicity stunt.
Here’s an idea. Let’s just officially rename Afghanistan “Christmas” and we’re all set to go. Ugly dogs, anyway.
Considering we’re currently 0-2 in wars, I don’t think anyone has to worry about us winning a war on Christmas
Accordion-o-rama: My christmas tree has a Megan McCabe theme. But it’s too tall to fit in the living room.
You know who else hated christmas? That’s right: Hitler. Hitler fucking hated christmas. Eva Braun always shaved her snatch in a christmas tree shape, and Hitler really didn’t like oral sex. Look it up. It’s in the Book of Lists, probably.
A pine tree with shit all over it has as much to do with jebus as a rabbit shitting eggs, now cthulhu jebus that makes sense
dijetlo: hooray for Woden’s Hunt, I mean Santa
This is just the run-up to the war against the North Pole. We’ll end up bombing Greenland, pulling Santa from a spider-hole crevasse, and then letting the Eskimo publically execute him by hanging, while his loyal elves carry out a sucide-and-IED-bomb-laced insurgency against the Eskimo and their “American occupiers”. No plot will have been found to re-crucify Jesus, and we’ll have no exit strategy. We’ll have to “fight the elves over there, so they don’t fight us here” in “protection of the sanctity of Christmas.”
Our next war will then be to smoke out the Easter Bunny from his terrorist, muslin warren for plotting against Jesus and Real America.
Our God is crudely nailed to a rough wooden cross. He has the agony of death deeply etched into his tortured features. Streams of blood and gore are oozing from his several gruesome wounds. A really painful bunch of thorny stuff is stuck on his bloody head. Of course, he’s also a sweet little new-born baby in a cozy manger with his virgin mom and donkeys, goats, angels and such happily looking on. Oh yeah, and there’s “Wise Men” with lots of presents, don’t forget the presents.
To disbelieve this, or to believe anything else, is just Godless Paganism!
MGBYG: Outrageous! There must be paintings of George Washington lighting the White House Christmas Tree - or Ben Franklin giving Christmas boobles to his 100+ children!!
For all you commies and libruls out there, here is your proof:
http://roundmountaingroup.com/images/washtree.jpg
That’s George Washington with his American Flag Christmas Tree - and lots of presents underneath for all the good Washington Children (and there were lots of them, because George and Martha were quiverful believers, too!)
So there!
Could somebody tell those dickweeds with the rubber thorns on their heads that EASTER (a pagan holiday) is for grownup dead Jeebus. CHRISTMAS (a pagan holiday) is for baby present-gettin’ Jeebus.
I wish they’d go back to NOT celebrating Christmas, the way our Pilgrim forefathers didn’t. Then the rest of us could get our Yule drank on without them whining about how we do it.
Oh, my, but our Peggy is long-winded and boring. I love her.
If Hopey thinks he can rub out Christmas he ain’t never met the Walmart Holiday Marketing Strategy Team up in Bentonville. Besides, the Chinese love Christmas and if we piss them off and they quit buying our debt, uh, well…
plowman:Xmass is big in Hanoi too, not as big as Tet but big
LowerdPeninsula: Damn man, that’s one helluva good rant!
Well done.
Hooray For Anything: This is a war of survival. We get to use preemptive first strikes and harsh interrogation.
Balloon Boy and Wolf Blitzer (I mean Adolf Hitler):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM5Bpz9HA5k&feature=player_embedded
dijetlo: Beauty. Thanks for the grenades, they’ll be useful in the ongoing trench warfare in the comments area of my local online newspaper. Although it’s a target-rich environment, getting even one head to explode per week takes a lotta ammo.
How can KBR get in on any of the war on christmas government contracts?
memzilla: Good work Memzilla! I’ve bookmarked the link to reply to my red state friends forwarded b.s. emails, which, I am sure will be forthcoming.
Dicentra: Win.
x111e7thst: I think the Vietnamese mean something else when they chant “Ho, Ho, Ho.”
goddamit, people. This thread doesn’t leave a sliver of hope for working in a panicked reference about the only football game of the year that makes me a once-a-year football fan (like I’m a soccer fan every four years) because it’s the only game that matters, ever.
BOOMER SOONER! Piss on the ‘horns.
As an Austin resident I can only hope OU wins so the town will be deliciously silent this evening, though since we moved south I can’t enjoy the lack of idiots celebrating a UT victory anymore. Being a Purdue grad I don’t give two shits for either team. And being a European soccer fanatic, I don’t give two shits about American football, the most boring game on the planet to watch (along with baseball.)
DustBowlBlues: hobospacejunkie: You both got your wish. OU 20, UT 3.
I can run errands now and not worry about horn honking and people swerving with their heads thrust out of the windows.
chascates: Crap! I’m wrong. UT won 16-43. The Stateman’s box score through me off.
Joshua Norton: And what’s a little baby going to do with a pint of myrrh?
How do they sell myrrh, anyway? Bottle? Bag? Another thing the nuns didn’t teach me, along with how to change a tire and fight off zombies. Catholic education in New Orleans . . .sigh.
WTF do those two fools have on their heads?
Somebody should beat them up with a 2 by 4, ram some real barbed wire on their heads and make them carry a couple of bags of concrete up the Woodrow Wilson bridge — during the evening rush — and maybe they’d come close.
Jesus — PLEASE take these people. ASAP. I can’t wait to be left behind.
problemwithcaring: Running out of trees?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFH5TlbEBGO
watch all 8 parts….astonishing!
GeneralLerong: No problem, the NT is full of liberal thinking, chascates: is exactly right, wimmins were getting uppity all over the early church. It was Paul, the Apostle who never actually met Jesus who said that “women should be silent in church”, mostly because he kept loosing arguments to Mary. Much of what conservative Christians claim to believe today is a twisted reading of St. Paul.
Paul sold the idea of Christianity to the Greeks by getting James and Peter to agree that converts didn’t have to have their wee-wees bobbed (that was a deal breaker back in the day).
Paul was later martyred for his faith, so far be it for me to throw stones at him, but his job while alive appears to be enforcing conformance to doctrine (as supplied by Peter, Paul and James) and keeping the nascent churches from getting rolled up by the law. He was boiled once unsuccessfully, fed to lions once with equal effect and escaped a gang of murderers sent to kill him by getting lowered from the town wall in a basket so, Paul had good reason to be a little paranoid, lots of people wanted him dead, many of them gave it a shot. The modern conservative evangelicals like to pretend having a Democratic President is akin to having the Emperor of Rome hunting your ass because they have the emotional maturity of your average thirteen year old girl and since when they are in power they persecute their enemies, it just stands to reason (to them) that when they are out of power they are being persecuted, even if they can’t say how.
ok, Mr. Wonkette. Every year Xmas creeps earlier and earlier into the stores.
No I do not want to hear Xmas carols right after Halloween. I simply do not care for that.
and now I have to read about Xmas more than 2 months early on Wonkette. this is an outrage!!!1!!11!
Why can’t we just have an old fashioned muslin Christmas like the pilgrims–none at all, it’s too pagan! Christmas as the cristin birthers’ (and Jewish retailers) celebrate also is too expensive, but at least the pilgrims used euros!
Funny– these ultra early Christmas presentations must stir up the religion in me– because when I see Christmas displays up in September, I say JEEZUS!
I think I love the buy nothing day philosophy.
Starts the day after Thanksgiving, where I sleep in late, laugh at the insane fools tolerating stampedes to save a few bucks on some made in china goods.
Gawd Bless Wal Mart???
Go Figure: http://logo.cafepress.com/6/736131.999066.jpg
dijetlo: I occasionally reflect that if I believed some day to be the Day on which my deities avatar manifested on earth, I would spend that Day either in the performance of spiritual exercises (prayer, meditation, fasting and the consumption of hallucinogens) or in other meritorious activities such as the giving of alms and the slaying of heathens. Then I reflect that that would almost as much work as going to the mall and buying a bunch of presents for people I dislike.
I like the pagan parts of xmas (greenery, lights, song, food & drink). The Christian & commercial parts, well, not so much. So I just ignore it. For me, it’s not quite a war, more of an armed entente.
“armed détente” is actually more accurate.
x111e7thst: the slaying of heathens.
If you read the Book of Jonah (from Jonah and the Whale), there is an interesting conversation between God and Jonah. He sent Jonah to Ninevah to warn them if they didn’t straighten up, he’d flatten the city. He gave them forty days. Jonah told God he’d go do it, then got on a boat heading the other direction because he was like…”Fuck those worthless heathens”.
That’s how he ended up in the belly of a whale and that’s why the whale spat him up on the shore near Ninevah, just Gods way of reminding Jonah he had a little thing he’d forgotten to do.
So he does it, the city is saved and Jonah heads off into the desert to sulk because, seriously, fuck these worthless heathens (and I think he was broke at the time so no boat ride home). It’s damn hot in desert, so Jonah starts crying to God, “kill me and end my suffering”. God, being more task directed than his prophet, grows him a tree. Now next morning, Jonah is loving that tree. It’s cool, it’s shady, it’s the shit. That night God sends a worm and kills it. Next morning, Jonah is back to “Why did you kill my tree, oh Lord take my life and end my suffering!”
To paraphrase the almighty he spake ” You worthless sniveling shit. You didn’t grow that tree, you sat on your fat ass whining. I grew the tree, just like I grew the millions of lives in Ninevah. You wanted me to kill them, you would have been happy if I had not bothered you to try to save them, but I kill this fucking tree and I’m suddenly the bad guy here. You’re a childish dick, Jonah, now get up and go home before your brains get baked.”
The moral is, in the actual book, God doesn’t slaughter the heathen unless he protecting something else. He makes all life so all life has equal value. To him, we all suck, more or less, at the same rate. If you recall the last time he checked, he could only find one man worth saving and he told him to build a boat.
Well goddamn, if Jesus is the reason for the season, instead of Santa, why not have kids hoisted up right beside bleeding crucified Jesus’ loincloth ‘lap’? They can tell the holy savior what they want for Christ mas as Jesus groans, bleeds and dies in their presence!!!
dijetlo: Could you also condense other parts of the bible? Just the semi-interesting parts. I have little interest in reading it, due to it being mostly long & boring & so I can’t easily find the “good” parts. But I’d read your version any day. You’re my last best hope for learning whatever lessons are to be found in the bible. No pressure, though.
chascates: So UT won 16-43? Crazy!
dijetlo: True that. But regrettably there is this too:
On the seventh day, they got up at daybreak and marched around the city seven times in the same manner, except that on that day they circled the city seven times. 16 The seventh time around, when the priests sounded the trumpet blast, Joshua commanded the people, “Shout! For the LORD has given you the city! 17 The city and all that is in it are to be devoted [m] to the LORD. Only Rahab the prostitute [n] and all who are with her in her house shall be spared, because she hid the spies we sent. 18 But keep away from the devoted things, so that you will not bring about your own destruction by taking any of them. Otherwise you will make the camp of Israel liable to destruction and bring trouble on it. 19 All the silver and gold and the articles of bronze and iron are sacred to the LORD and must go into his treasury.
Smoke Filled Roommate: I think you meant “dies in their presents.”
So, our atheist president NObama won’t allow Christian ornaments on his
HolyDay“Holiday” Tree? Franklin Pierce (#14) was the first U.S. President to put a Christmas tree in the White House. Why did the first thirteen presidents, including George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe and Andrew Jackson, hate Jesus so much?Click: Much better. Really, I just want Jesus to groan and drip on them when they’re shouting “I want a xbox!”.
hobospacejunkie: Double crap! I meant UT 16, OU 13. I never watch baseball anyway.
Since Christmas seems to be only days away it’s worth reading this wonderful wisdom from Ronald Reagan regarding how the words of religious Christmas carols were changed in the former Soviet Union to suppress Christmas observances:
http://lc.org/misc/reagan_christmas.htm
Smoke Filled Roommate: That reminds me of the time I was sittting on Jesus’s lap and I thought I felt his reserection.
RoscoePColtraine: The first thirteen didn’t act like Walmart Christians at Christmas time because they were neck deep in the Satan-worshiping, “Masonic Conspiracy!”
All except for Jackson, he was just too damn drunk every year during the holiday season to trim the goddamned tree.
Click: Well, I gave Santa a golden shower, once.
x111e7thst: The Hebrews are reclaiming the land God promised Abraham as their inheritance. He’s protecting his promise by opening the city to them. He doesn’t despise the inhabitants of Jericho, he didn’t flatten the city and kill them (a la Sodom and Gomorrah) he just made it impossible for them to defend it, if you look at what he did, it seems more like he wanted them to flee (which is no doubt what most of them did when their walls miraculously fell).
The Hebrews (through Aaron) claim God commanded them to slaughter the inhabitants but if God wanted them slaughtered he certainly could have done that before the Hebrews got there. He could have consumed the city in fire like he did in the afor mentioned locales.
Aaron also doesn’t seem to consult God when he changes Gods command and spares the prostitute and her family. Makes you wonder if the “slaughter the inhabitants and give all the goodies to the priests” commandment didn’t originate with Aaron since he’s their high priest.
hobospacejunkie: Just read five pages a day and you’ll be through it before you know it. I’d start with the old testament since it gives the new testament a lot more context if you understand the religion Jesus was a Rabbi of. You have my permission to skip all that begating (which is about 10% of the old Testament)
the problem child: That either got you blacklisted or put into the “deliciously naughty” column.
Click: Well, I didn’t get a Tonka dumptruck that year, but I did get my very own indoor swing.
And I’m pretty sure that I still believed in Santa for a year or so after. I never did think “god” existed, because no one I trusted ever said so.
the problem child: Beats my used set of Tiddlywinks and a half-dead hamster.
Click: Aw, did the hamster make it past new years? I had a kitten who was mauled to near-death (close enough to require swift death) by a dog the first day I had him.
the problem child: I was forced to return the poor moribund creature to the pet store that had pawned him off on my mother. Sadness.
Johnny Zhivago: …and for Gawdssake DELETE THAT AOL.EXE VIRUS-FILE!!!!!
problemwithcaring: Extemporanus: Do they come in full-colour pairs?
Hooray For Anything: “Considering we’re currently 0-2 in wars, I don’t think anyone has to worry about us winning a war on Christmas” - well that just mean you’ll have to fight HARDER for Real Meriken Republican Jesus, you goddamm commie heathens!
WarAndG: “Where WOULD Jesus shop?” - with his most devoted followers at Walmart, you silly bugger…
Click: See? A casualty in the war on xmas!
Gumboz1953: Jesus was lucky he got mrryhhh that easily. Usually you had to “hang out” first with the myrrrhhr dealer and listen to his shitty harps and lyres music.
For once I agreed with my paultard friend tonight on a political issue (doesn’t mean I’m dressing as a minute man and going to a teabagger rally). He said stop the wars and use the money for health care. I like that.
Oh look, Rush Limpbaugh is whining again. It’s the War On Rush. Poor little Rush:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704322004574477021697942920.html#articleTabs%3Darticle
It’s a vast left wing (i.e. “the darkies”) conspiracy against his bid for the Rams.
“These intimidation tactics are working and spreading, and they are a cancer on our society.”
HAHAHAHA. I call it a win for Wonketteers.
NSFW, it’s Reverse Rush!
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dijetlo: No, you can’t skip the “begats.” Read the boring parts carefully if you want to understand the contradictions in the Bible.
El Pinche: Or we can take money and invest in Zombie Holocaust Prevention.
Has this country always been so willfully ignorant, or is that just a recent thing?
ForTheTurnstiles: Believing that a book which is over TWO THOUSAND YEARS old can lend valuable insight into 21st century living makes only slightly less sense than believing there’s a guy who flies around the world in a sleigh throwing presents down chimneys.
mynameisdetroit: Intelligent thought doesn’t draw the crowds.
Balloons? - now THERE’S something that’ll get you noticed.
dijetlo: Are you sure that you are not just interpreting away the parts of the O T that you don’t agree with?
Then he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up by the way, young lads came out from the city and mocked him and said to him, “Go up, you baldhead; go up, you baldhead!” 24 When he looked behind him and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of their number. 25 And he went from there to Mount Carmel, and from there he returned to Samaria.
And please don’t tell me that Elisha pulled that one off all on his lonesome (without his deities help). I’m not buying.
shortsshortsshorts: so, you’re fired up, ready to go?
Cassawary: She’s a fighter. When I told her that Christmas was OVA she freaked out. Naturally I followed Mein Furors death-panel commands and euthanized her for health care purposes.
Putting Christ back in Christmas means sacrifice, compassion, and tolerance. Clearly behavior unbecoming of the Wingnuts’ selfish code of conduct.
x111e7thst: Those bears must have been on motorcycles to be able to catch forty-two young, fleet-footed boys. I’m tempted to declare the whole story wishful exaggeration (if not a out-right fib) on Elisha’s part.
Athar: Those were no ordinary bears, they were resident students of the Mount Carmel Black Bear Dojo.
My uncle stopped sending me those weird-ass conspiracy mails after I replied-to-all a couple of times with a fact check including Snopes references (and some waving of my professional credentials - email administration and security management), and a statement that I loved them all and didn’t care if they didn’t like the administration or its policies, but for the love of God please don’t make stuff up. Funny thing, that.
Click: Human beings haven’t significantly changed in 2,000 years.
x111e7thst: Are you sure that you are not just interpreting away the parts of the O T that you don’t agree with?
Oh goodness, d’ya think? Even people who claim it’s the literal truth interpret it, cut me a little slack here, X.
“Go up, you baldhead; go up, you baldhead!”…Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of their number.
That does seem kind of severe, even by OT standards, doesn’t it? Three things I’d point out.
1: Calling the Lords prophet “chrome dome” is not likely to turn out well.
2: 2 Bears killed forty two young men? That’s 21 a bear, hadn’t these young men mastered “running for your life” technology yet?
3: Elijah and by derivation Elisha had put Gods stamp of approval on a regime change that occurred in bronze age Israel. Made them very popular with the new ruling class, hence their inclusion in the book of Kings (where that story comes from).
Is it true? I doubt it and would note the author doesn’t even claim God sent the bears to slaughter the youths, ( I would also point out they weren’t heathens, they were Hebrews). It’s always seemed to me that Aaron, Elisha and Elijah had really good publicists because while the bible speaks of them in glowing terms, their actual accomplishments are relatively minor (Elijah parted the Jordan with his cloak, that was admittedly pretty kewl though).
If your looking for someone to defend the bible as the infallible word of God, you’re at the wrong window. It’s comprised of a series of narratives composed by men, often for reasons that have little to do with God. These were chosen in the fifth century by a group of Roman bishops who were gaining temporal power and looking for a way to cement their positions in the burgeoning church through dogma. It’s a product of man so it’s quite fallible especially the OT which is largely Hebrew/Judean/Israeli propaganda used to wrap temporal power in the Gods approval and support. Thinking back to ‘W’, I think we can all agree that things have changed little in two thousand years.
mynameisdetroit: You’re not gonna like the answer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_Nothing
dijetlo: “Human beings haven’t significantly changed in 2,000 years.”
And you don’t think the refusal to give up a 2,000 year-old prescription for living has anything to do with that?
dijetlo: I can’t find it in my Book of Kings…
Jim89048: Found it…
King Dijetlo
The Baldhead
Click:No Click, I don’t. I’d point out to you that people who live in cultures that have never been exposed to Christianity, Judaism or Islam to any great extent have the same problems we do (greed and selfishness, violence and exploitation). If you’ve ever walked around in Guangzhou or Calcutta you’ll understand why I say this. They certainly aren’t looking for inspiration from the Bible and they are at least as uncaring for our fellow man as we are (probably more, actually).
Jim89048: Dogs dude, I only listen to dogs. Cat’s are a bunch of self serving bitches who’d lie to you as soon as look at you. If I was reduced to the size of a mouse, my dog would still recognize me and love me. If I owned a cat, they’d probably try to eat me. Hence, no cats in my tabernacle because the Lord is not above doing something like just to see how you’d react.
user-of-owls: Fortunately for you, I’m not a prophet or there would be some she-bears looking for your smart ass.
King User-Of-Owls
The Bear Bait
user-of-owls: Keep your tennis shoes on and try to hang out with fat people, I understand she-bears are notoriously lazy and easily distracted.
dijetlo: “greed [power drive] and selfishness [survival instinct], violence [aggression stemming from the survival instinct] and exploitation [selfishness=survival instinct].” - are all are part of our biological inheritance, and no book, no philosophy, no amount of societal coercion will ever remove them. Maybe we should try something new?
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Click:
part of our biological inheritance
…and yet, I can point you to a legion of people who have overcome those biological imperatives and dedicated their lives to selfless acts and the one thread that runs through the list would be faith, so is faith really the enemy of mankind? Would we really be better off without it? If you boil down the holy wars and jihads of our relatively recent history, they are always about power, not belief. Belief is just the excuse they use because it’s much more palatable than “I want to rule”. As you point out, doing away with faith wouldn’t change the underlying paradigm that drives acquisitive behavior.
Maybe we should try something new?
What do you have in mind here, Click, it doesn’t end up with us all horribly mutated and feasting on the meager brains of the Republicans, does it?
dijetlo: I guess my point was only that we can’t stand outside our biological nature - except in fantasy. It’s not a paradigm which drives our acquisitive behavior, but an organic reality.
Click: The win-at-any cost theory is used over and over to justify selfishness, war and exploitation. Our whole race would have been toast eons ago if our early ancestors didn’t cooperate with each other and band together in mutual cooperation to fend off predators and find food sources. The human race only survived because it formed cooperative groups, back in the day when we were easy meals. The flaw was that the group protected and fed even the feeble-minded ones. The great tragedy was that this feeble-minded group was allowed to survive, passing on its bad genes to a strain of similarly feeble-minded ones today known as Red Staters.
Click: Then how do you explain people like Mother Theresa or your average Monk or Missionary? How do you explain people who could get rich on their brains choosing to be school teachers in poor neighborhoods or Doctors in poor countries? What happened to their acquisitive nature?
dijetlo: If God wished for us to live the best, richest lives possible, with lots of lusty sex and delicious food [and who's to say He/She didn't?] then Mother Theresa was a miserable failure.
dijetlo: As for those doctors in poor countries - any who say they are not getting something in return for their service (being “good” has intangible, but very powerful rewards) is ignorant or lying.
BlueStateLibtard: “The win-at-any cost theory is used over and over to justify selfishness, war and exploitation. Our whole race would have been toast eons ago if our early ancestors didn’t cooperate with each other and band together in mutual cooperation to fend off predators and find food sources. The human race only survived because it formed cooperative groups”
I’m not sure what the “win at any cost theory” is, however the rest of your comment affirms my point that we do things (like create rules and social mores for greater cooperation) for one reason: to further our own survival. It’s nothing personal.
dijetlo: Of course this nonsense with the bears did not actually happen. It’s a teaching tale meant to illustrate the proper relationship between the people and their deity’s prophet - and by extension their deity. As such it involves a variant on smiting. Often such tales do.
My other point is not that you should be disbarred from interpreting your holy writ however you choose; why would I care? I merely posit that it can also be interpreted as permitting or encouraging the commission of acts of violence against other folk with whom the deity is displeased.
x111e7thst: “it can also be interpreted as permitting or encouraging the commission of acts of violence against other folk with whom the deity is displeased.’
The inherently dichotomous nature of language is a real bitch.
Fucking dichotomous nature bullshit. So did the bear patrol work or didn’t it? I don’t see any bears around here, so…
comicbookguy: For her upcoming book tour Sarah purchased a stunning new gown with some fabulous backstraps, so I’m guessing that’s where they ended up.
Click: I stand corrected - they were actually spaghetti straps. Much saucier.
mookworthjwilson: I don’t know as Jew it worked for me..
Luke 14:26
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
I’m in!!!
BerkeleyFarm: Yep, tried that a couple of times too - never got a reply from what is apparently her combined bingo/bridge club distribution lists.
Jim89048: Heavy, like a ton of feathers.
Why can’t there be a War on Catholicism? Seriously, I was baptized Catholic at my grandmother’s insistence when I was four (or else I would go to hell). Apparently during the ceremony of heathen child to cleansed child, I was dancing on the altar. My mother’s family always treated me like I was somehow wrong and needed to be fixed. Guilt, shame and sorrow go hand in hand with many religions; I can say my experience with rigid Catholic Jesus infusion at an early age has made me pretty much an atheist and hermit.
Or maybe I’m just pissed the Eagles lost to the friggin’ Raiders today.
Smoke Filled Roommate: “rigid Catholic Jesus infusion”
Is that some kind of dildo?
dijetlo: Oh no, dijetlo. Please don’t tell me you’re one of those people. Don’t tell me you’re one of those folks too afraid and/or uncomfortable to indentify yourself as a ‘non-believer’ or ‘without faith’, so you go about in your belief that organized religion got it all wrong, but you got it right (or more right). Those folks are even worse than born-again evangelicals. They want to have it both ways. They sit back and deny the divinity of Jesus, speak of the Bible as fables, but then still insist for their own comfort they are Christians. It’s ridiculous and sad, and I say that as a heathen, but someone with a pretty comprehensive understanding of Christianity and it’s history.
You’ve just essentially said in your post that I quoted — at the very least — that humanity can only fulfill its ultimate potential when it has some kind of faith, and I vehemently disagree. To be clear, on a personal level, I believe ‘faith’ (and, here, we’re talking about faith in something divine or supernatural (above nature)) is neither good nor bad, and it’s most certainly not determinative. One should rightfully be irked by someone implying that.
Click: I don’t know; I thought it sounded like your new dime-a-dozen, overpriced Los Angelan Asian restaurants.
Dear lord you people. Go to thinkprogress if you want to act all smart, and stuff. I have a question for you folks:
Why should you never play hide and seek with jesus?
He peeks through the holes in his hands.
Oh, and the rest of you can go stand in a ditch and poke a dead dog with a stick until it gets up and runs. Out into the highway and gets hit, again.
Click: Yeah, it’s the kind that’s crammed down your throat.
Neilist: No, it isn’t. She died in late December 2007. I know that because I was in Baghdad at the time, wondering how badly her assassination was going to screw up our lives. (Turns out, it didn’t.)
LowerdPeninsula: I’d take it a bit further. There’s faith on one side, which is not the same as reason but isn’t stupid. I have faith that tomorrow morning I will be able to get up and make a cup of coffee, because I’ve done it before and I have the beans in the fridge, &c. Then there’s belief in the Great Pumpkin, in the Living Eck Master, in the next stage of integral evolving human consciousness, or L’il Baby Jesus.
What is the difference between belief and make-believe? A sense of irony?
Gumboz1953: I was going to point that out, but did not feel like having them claim I was an anti-semite.
Click: But humans and animals often do things that don’t have anything to do with their own personal survival. Why do people help complete strangers when they’re in harm’s way? Animals will sometimes do the same thing. If they were just concerned about the survival of their own genes, they’d let the stranger drown–and then have more resources for themselves. I’m not convinced.
Extemporanus: God damn. My snark valve just burst.
BlueStateLibtard: I wasn’t implying that we’re assholes by nature, not at all. Only that the reason we do things for others is because it benefits us - always. Wanting to survive doesn’t make you a shithead, it makes you a very human creature. And what’s wrong with that? My problem with the atheist crowd is that they refuse to believe in a God, yet they believe without question in the idea of a self. Prove to me that a self exists. I don’t believe in a god or a self as being real, but I do believe in the brain that creates and maintains both illusions.
I can believe nobody’s posted a link to this awesome Toby Keith video from Stephen Colbert’s Christmas special last year:
Toby Keith: “War On Christmas”
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/211034/november-23-2008/a-colbert-christmas–toby-keith-sings
Gumboz1953: Dammit, Gumboz, you’re correct: She croaked on December 27, 2007. That’s what I get for trusting Wikipedia’s “It Happened Today” feature.
I suppose the entries about Republicans being heterosexual are equally suspect?
if we could get skoalrebel to play baby jesus…the war on kristmus would be over!
I’m glad to see that the email is a hoax. But, what is interesting - or just plain stupid - are some of the comments made in the email. The thought that any person plans to take America away from its religious foundation is ludicrous. We did that ourselves a long time ago. And quite frankly, as a Christian, I could care less about putting up a tree or not. A lot of the things that are done in Christianity are rooted in pagan rituals that date back centuries. A wreath on the door is a sign of death, not anyone’s birth. Jeremiah 10: 2-4, written well before Jesus’ time, calls the custom of cutting down a tree, bringing it into your home, and decking it with silver and gold - VAIN. And it is, because - while it’s nice and pretty and reminds us of the holidays & family - it has nothing to do with baby Jesus. Gee whiz… However, continue on if that’s what you desire to do. I just made it a point in my life to know WHY I do what I do…and if it doesn’t make sense to me, then I don’t do it.