Wonkette
So! Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize this morning and everyone on Earth—and the moon, way 2 stick it out moon!—could not be more surprised. Look at Robert Gibbs, just cold saying “wow” on a Twitter thing belonging to CBS person Mark Knoller! And “Erick Erickson,” some sort of retarded cousin of Robbie Robertson and #1 journalist on top Internet destination RedState.com is just a little caught off guard because he “did not realize the Nobel Peace Prize had an affirmative action quota for it.” Someone get Erick Erickson every single gold medal from the 2016 Olympics.
Barry is the third sitting U.S. President to win the Peace Prize, the other two being Woodrow Wilson and Teddy Roosevelt, and the Nobel Committee explains his win thusly:
“Obama has as President created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts. The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations. Thanks to Obama’s initiative, the USA is now playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world is confronting.”
The deadline for Nobel nominations was February 1st, which according to Republicans, who have desk calendars, is perilously close—TOO close, really—to when Obama first took office on January 20th. In fact, who’s the say that February 1st is even technically after January 20th?? The European Nobel people? But after you factor in the time difference, who knows…
O, yes, today will be like 9/11 x War x Twitter for the batshit section of the Internet today.
Too bad the Nobel Prize committee doesn’t have prizes for Sour Grapes. Red State would win by a landslide.
more like the nobel appeasement prize
booya, suck it libtards
Cthulhu Jeebus came in second, though, so WIN WIN.
http://wonkette.com/411524/gahh-the-jesus-painting-blood-redux
Meanwhile, the RedState server is crying salty, salty silicon tears as it morphs itself into SkyNet.
Countdown to “How could they snub Ronnie Reagan, but give it to this upstart (socialist cum Hitler acolyte)?” ……3, 2, 1.
pampl: Hee hee, you’re funny!
When I read this alert my first reaction was to forward it to some people with note - Crazies meltdown in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1.
We should just call this “Wingnuts Go Crazy Day.”
Today we are all Kenyans.
germansteel: Too late. Joe Scarborough already went there.
Sorry, RedState. There is no Nobel prize for hog callin’.
Why, why do Scandinavians hate America SO MUCH?
They’ll be piling up Ikea furniture, Volvos and Nokia phones throughout America today and setting them on fire.
ManchuCandidate: Then it could be Red Wine State, and become peaceful, lush and fruitful; i.e., different.
Newell: Do not read Richard Cohen this morning. Please heed this warning for the sake of your physical and mental well-being.
Well, at least this clears up that the “Nobel Peace Prize” is utterly meaningless.
I mean, what’s next? Are the Brits going to start giving the Order of the British Empire to rock-and-roll musicians, and knighting actors?
What?
Really?
When?
The BEATLES?
Oh, dear god.
P.S. In 1938, the Nobel Committee was torn between awarding the NPP to two candidates: Adolf Hitler and Gandhi. To bad Hopey was not around for that contest.
Is this what Bush meant by the judgment of history?
pampl: Hey, Trollo Baggins, cleanup on aisle nine!
The echoes of exploding wingtard heads should be a delicious audio treat today.
germansteel: They would have given one to Rush Limbaugh years ago, but they were worried he’d blow all the prize money on Oxycontin and Twinkies.
Haha. And he didn’t even have to *lie* about climate change for a movie, like Al Gore. Suck on it, Al Gore.
You blowz up the moon, you getz a prize. That’s how things should be.
BTW: John Bolton wants Barry turn over the Nobel prize to him, him, him, him.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MzZkNzg0MDVhMWJjNmI2YTc1NTZkZTJlNGM0NzI4NzA=
It think it’ll be a toss-up between the wingtards screaming about how the commie-socialist-europeeyuns gave it to Barry for being a black socialist surrender-monkey and the libtards screaming about how the committee caved to Amerikkkan interests and ignored Iraq, Afghanistan, and rendition.
But then I’m a cynic.
rambone:
Actually, the Nobel Prize Committee’s reaction was, “WHO is Rush Limbaugh and why should I care?”
Outside of US America, no one cares about US America radio talk show types. As a furriner, I only Rushbo because I read Al Franken’s book.
Neilist: Yeah, like when they gave it evil-war-dwarf Henry Kissinger. Ew.
memzilla: I think pampl was kidding. I laughed, anyway.
The entire conservative universe is pulling a collective Kanye West right now, grabbing the mike and saying “you’ll get your chance,” someone has to do the photoshop pronto, and give me co-creator credit, dammit.
Neilist: Actually, in 1938 they wimped out and gave it to some sissy “International Office for Refugees”
The Norwegians pussied out again on giving it to the clearly deserving Gandhi after India’s independence and the end of the war, because it might have pissed off the Brits who were still sore about losing their empire. Then Gandhi got assassinated.
So yeah: the greatest peaceful leader of the 20th century never got the Prize. But that warmongering asshole Teddy Roosevelt did! And so did Yasser Arafat!
“The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations.”
That’s like me saying that today I may think about considering the possibility of some real work getting accomplished today.
So, does the Nobel Committe spit or swallow?
Imagine the whiniest, most hateful, deluded, craziest over-the-top reaction from the Obama Derangement Syndrome-afflicted part of the internet. Then chuckle softly to yourself, secure in the knowledge that somewhere, it’s already been written or said.
Dick Cheney, passed over once again.
I have yet to see Erick Erickson show they are capable of making a comment about Obama that does not involve race. For yet another validation of the failure of conservatism, I would have expected him to at least try harder.
Terrific news. But what’s *really* exciting about it is that this almost inevitably means we’ll see another stunning photoshopped iteration of that Jesus painting before the end of the day.
S.Luggo: John Bolton was nominated for best mustache rides
Wait didn’t he just get elected yesterday??? Wow for his next feat he pushes Mariano Rivera aside tonight and closes for the Yanks. To funny how the right bitterness just skyrocketed
BlueStateLibtard: While they are all obsessing over this, let’s slam through a health care reform bill w/ a public option.
rambone: Don’t forget the young Dominican boys…
Johnny Zhivago: Maybe in their fanatic zeal they’ll accidentally add Erick Erickson to the pyre.
Anita Cocktail: Fuck a public option…this might be enough of a distraction to go single payer…
Republitards=Taliban
Neilist: Man, your rants, while annoying, usually do make some sense; more than the average wignut. But that was a total non-sequitor. You guys really are sputtering mad?
When I first heard this (just as my clock radio woke me up!), it seemed hard to believe - wouldn’t it make more sense to wait and see if Obama delivers? But then, I realized how crazy the righties would go over this. Hey, maybe Rush and Beck can rage themselves into a stroke!
mookworthjwilson: Fuck single payer. This is enough of a distraction to implement actual death panels to kill actual Trig Palins. Democrats, don’t pass up this opportunity!!
The very first Nobel Peace Prize awarded to say “FUCK YOU” to a former US President. Yeah John Garfield, Sparky.
In honor of Red State I’ve renamed my bowel movements: You should have seen the way that Erickson curled around the bowl this morning…
V572625694: Kissinger honored the Norwegian Nobel Committee by taking time to wash the blood from his hands before accepting his half of the prize. His co-winner, Le Duc Tho, was too important to the North Vietnamese war effort to spare the time to go to Oslo for th ceremony.
“There is no way Barack Obama earned it in the nominations period.”
Probably not on his own. Simply not being George Bush kind of turns the NPP into a trophy for participation.
What I love in my heart is Obama’s winning this prize in the face of stuff like “Smartest Pundit in the World” George Will’s column yesterday about how egotistical Obama is. The closing graph of Will’s piece —
“Presidents often come to be characterized by particular adjectives: “honest” Abe Lincoln, “Grover the Good” Cleveland, “energetic” Theodore Roosevelt, “idealistic” Woodrow Wilson, “Silent Cal” Coolidge, “confident” FDR, “likable” Ike Eisenhower. Less happily, there were “Tricky Dick” Nixon and “Slick Willie” Clinton. Unhappy will be a president whose defining adjective is “vain.”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA when George woke up this morning to his clock radio set on NPR telling him the bad news. Guess what? Obama really IS jack shit.
Wow, and the election made me Finally Happy but this!!! I’ve been working so just got to Wonkette although I knew Bar got the prize early this morning. the icing on my cake would be if this put one of the FOX media whores over the top and a heart attack, OD or drunken driving over a cliff took one of them out- or Mark Sanford resigns.
My best guess is that Erik Erickson did not successfully resolve his trust issues during infancy and is now a cowardly, preening prick.
Anita Cocktail: All part of the evil plan.
It’s easy to look good when your opening act is George “Batshit Crazy Cowboy” Bush and Dick “Electrodes on your testicles or shotgun blast to the face?” Cheney… Jeebus, just by not torturing the Nobel Prize Award panel’s families he looks 10,000% better.
This is kinda long, but Josh Marshall at TPM wrote this:
…
But the unmistakable message of the award is one of the consequences of a period in which the most powerful country in the world, the ‘hyper-power’ as the French have it, became the focus of destabilization and in real if limited ways lawlessness. A harsh judgment, yes. But a dark period. And Obama has begun, if fitfully and very imperfectly to many of his supporters, to steer the ship of state in a different direction. If that seems like a meager accomplishment to many of the usual Washington types it’s a profound reflection of their own enablement of the Bush era and how compromised they are by it, how much they perpetuated the belief that it was ‘normal history’ rather than dark aberration.
The best part is that the wingnuts don’t even know that this is a huge win for America in the international scene, whether you like the guy or not.
Since when do conservatives care about peace anyway?
After California rescinded Marriage Equality, my wife and I considered whether moral consistency required us to divorce, declining to accept a status not equally available to all citizens. Erik erikson now has me contemplating a race change operation. Wife gets a pass on that because of the whole being a woman thing, but I might have to go to Denmark for this operation. Yesterday, Newt Ginrich’s people called assuming I’d sign up for his pre-Presidential committee ’cause I am a middle aged white guy and what not. I’ve been insulted by people I respected a whole lot more than them.
Hopey dont play that game: And there is always the matter of the lack of breast feeding.
During the presidential election votey county thing, the American Family Association had a live webcast with two fat-ish hosts giving the play-by-play.
When Obama won, the fatter of the two turned completely red and looked for all the world like he was going to cry.
I can only imagine how red and weepy he is now.
Johnny Zhivago - The Nobel Prize is Norwegian. IKEA and Volvos are Swedish while Nokia is Finnish.
Awww screw the peace prize and the prestige. How much money did he get?
ManchuCandidate: I see. So the rest of the world pays as much heed to our talk show hosts as the average American does to the heads of state of the rest of the world.
Somehow, I find this all reassuring in some zen sort of way.
jagorev: It’s true that they give it so some people for being ‘less of a bastard than we thought he’d be’.
2goats: If you were willing to risk melanoma and death, you could just go the George Hamilton route and tan yourself into near-East-Asian complexion. That might also have the bonus effect of people’s thinking you were a Muslin, since all them furriners from over there are, and thus you’d shed the white guy identity AND get the Muslin facade as extra credibility.
On a roll of double-ply, Mark “the slight one” Levin once wrote a nifty note submitting Rump Leakage’s name to the committee.
That counts, doesn’t it? The Freetards sure thought so.
JMP: Neilist is correct. the Nobel peace prize has just declared itself to be totally fucking irrelevant, as if that wasn’t obvious enough already.
Prommie: http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/62000/Imma-let-you-finish-in-a-minute–62378.jpg
So Obama only had ten days’ worth of actual achievements to qualify for this prize? Even the devoutest RedStaters have to admit he totally ROCKED the swimsuit competition.
S.Luggo: HAAAAAAAA
It’s like Mars Attacks!!!11!
A yodel from Scandinavia is broadcast over America and wingnuts’ heads start exploding.
So simple, so satisfying.
Also, Scandinavia is only Norway, Sweden and Denmark. Iceland and Finland are mistakenly included.
Re: John bolton whining…. well, let’s be honest. He was appointed the UN ambassador having been a strict defendant of the idea that the UN was bullsh*t. Bush deserved the diplomacy award for realz, yo.
Doglessliberal: maybe just spray on, in case the GOPers get back in.
Monsieur Grumpe: WE get the money. It all goes to the treasury. Can you imagine the outrage if it didn’t?
That nigrah presnint gets paid 1 million fer reading off the telepropmter and losing the olympics?!?
Cicada: I should add that I have no idea what happens to the prize money. I don’t think it goes to the treasury. It would be awesome if it did, though.
He had twelve whole days of achievements! Plus he TOTALLY ROCKED the swimsuit portion.
groove: Surely many of us remember a pretty big deal being made, not long after Obama was sworn in, about his administration’s stated stance on nuclear weapons, the ultimate goal being universal disarmament, and how this was a very noteworthy change from his many modern predecessors. Progress will be slow, but taking the idea of disarmament seriously is certainly peace prize-worthy.
pampl: Cicada: If ’twere done in irony, my apologies. Except to the trolls.
Scuse me, I’m late for my meeting at R’lyeh Towers.
Let’s just hope he is not awarded the prize posthumously.
We (I mean the President) could spend the prize money on those Reparations they’re all so worried about.
Well, it may only be 11 AM, but knowing that the right wing shitterati is going berserk, melting in its abdominal fat as it were, its time to enjoy a nice chilled martini!
Tha moon rulz #1
pampl: Troll much?
Cicada: ah they’d find a way to spin that as bad for america too. If I were him I’d spend it on xmas presents for my secret service buddies.
Cicada: I’d prefer Obama be awarded a gross of dynamite sticks for use against America’s domestic enemies, both real & perceived, starting with the Senate finance committee, then moving on to the fringe right, which is now really the mainstream right.
groove: You don’t get out into the real world much, do you? The cave’s lookin’ sharp, tho’
In other news, Bono has demanded that Obama produce a long form copy of his birth certificate.
It’s difficult to know quite what to make of this. It may be best to withhold comment until skoalrebel drops another vid.
*dip* YOU LIBTARDS CAN KEEP YOUR PRESHUS KENYAN TELEPROMPTERER AND HIS GAY PEACE PRIZE . KARGGGHHHGHGHG KAGHHH KARGGH. MEENWILE RUSH WILL BE JUGJIN SOME HOT BABES AT THE MISS AMURKA PAJENT *dip*
sooo… it would be kind of dickish to send forty thousand more troops into afghanistan now, right? geneva ends the war!
I’m trying to keep track of this. The liberals are spooging because someone said, “Barry’s such a nice hopey we like him kiss kiss clappy hands.” and the conservatives are frothing because some elitist Euro-Scando kiddyfiddlers said, “Neegrez be doing some good, biatches.”
Seems like everyone’s prejudices got reinforced, which makes for a win-win decision, surely?
Live blogging the Prez this morning O Great Overlord Juli?
Man, it’s dreary and rainy outside here in Memphis, but on this great day, I got two great presents from NASA and the Nobel Committee. The Moon is bombed and the wingtards are trolled so deftly you’d think Layne, Newell, and SKS were picking the winners? Glorious.
10/9, 2009. NEVAR 4GET!
Also, the $1,000,000 prize money will be put toward nuking the George Walker Bush Presidential Library from our shiny new moon base.
It’s so fucking un-american for an american to win the nobel peace prize. I mean seriously, what the fuck, committee? communists
I, for one, am going to enjoy the refreshing spritz of douche the righties will be spraying today-
Sure, it smells a little vinegary, but it’s good for my pores & shit, right?
evolutionista: Ha ha ha, that was one of the first things I thought, actually.
And, I bet Hills is pissed being the ‘hard laborer’ in all this.
Noodle Salad: Epic Win
CycloneArmageddon: I dunno about why everyone else here is spooging, but I am spooging from watching the right wing hate america so bad.
And masturbation. Pas mal de masturbation.
“Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize” played backwards says “ez irpe caepl Ebon sniw Amabo” which is Norwegian for “more meds for Rush n Glenn”
ManchuCandidate: Hear, hear! All of these right wing extremists (who, by the European standard, include most of the Democratic Party as well) were unknown to me before I added Wonkette.com to my Firefox bookmarks. So, thank you, Wonkett, for bringing the crazy people into my life.
And congrats to you, Mr. Obama! The Peace Prize was a pre-emptive strike in order to keep Americans from starting more wars. Let’s hope it works.
I love the smell of redrage in the morning.
I don’t know if Hopey McChange really deserves a Nobel. But, that it caused the nutroots so much gnashing of teeth, I’m willing to assume he does.
hobospacejunkie: The Obama administration has a lot of ideas worthy of merit, for sure. But until something real comes of it, they’re just giving Peace Prizes away for dreams.
Let’s totally ignore the other hundreds of international organizations, dissidents, and activists who’ve been doing work where the rubber meets the road for years and use this prize to give a big “Fuck You” to George W. Bush.
What a waste. And an insult, really.
Zadig: 2 signs of the apocalypse! End times are upon us!
jagorev: No, sorry, Neilist is never correct, and for you: HA HA!
El Pinche: ha ha –i hadn’t even thought of hrc’s reaction. oh, i bet it was priceless. why does god hate hillary clinton?
Jeez, consolation prize for not getting the olympics thing.
And what a state of affairs in u.s.-world politics when not-warmongering-president == Gandhi.
the terrorists truly have won…
groove: It hurts doesn’t it? Accomplishing shit?? :
Kicking ass in counter-terrorism:
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2009/10/cheney-and-co-all-quiet-counterterrorism-front
Even Dick Cheney was speechless and hasn’t yet summoned his little Hell spawn Liz.
Obama is killing turrists and winning Nobel peace prizes.
jagorev: “The food is terrible here!” “And such small portions!”
Noodle Salad: Seek: Seconded.
Madeline: Have they even made him “Sir Bono” yet?
Mustang: Ha ha, George Will writes 300 words to say “uppity negro.”
I’ve already caught at least one Anti-Christ reference on the redstate comments. How many can you find?
See what happens when you let women vote? It’s bad for conservatives.
glamourdammerung: Erickson is a DICK! Racist asshole.
“Someone get Erick Erickson every single gold medal from the 2016 Olympics.”
That should read Special Olympics.
As if they needed MORE proof that Obama is an uppity socialist.
George Oscar Bluth: At this point it seems the entire comments front page is discussing how “BHO” is the anti-christ and oh also how the world will end in 2012.
i love that the conclusion both the wingnuts and msm have come to is: “barack obama embarrasses himself & the nation by winning nobel peace prize.” the onion couldn’t have come up with anything better if they tried.
how on earth will obama recover from this terrible shame that he has brought upon his family?
So how much money did the Nobel folks get from ACORN?
evolutionista: It’s really a question of killing the brown people in the correct order. Our guy is sort of brownish, under the right lighting conditions, so presumably he has unique insights as to how to pull this sort of thing off.
sarcasticusername: He should resign!!! It’s the only way to prove he loves America!!!! Also, he should totally yell out “Fuck you, Iran” during his refusal speech!!!
Goalposts: moved.
Prommie: They can’t. He’s Irish. Sheesh, that’d be like giving a sitting U.S. president overseeing two wars the Nobel Peace Prize.
Barry Jive &: Johnny Zhivago - The Nobel Prize is Norwegian. IKEA and Volvos are Swedish while Nokia is Finnish
Oh, c’mon, you’re killing the funny here. And all Scandahoovians look alike anyway….
I’m a big Hopey fan, but I had to say, my first reaction to the headline was to check to see if it was linked to The Onion. This is really goofy. Fun watching the wingnuts implode, but sheesh, let the man DO something first. He got the award for being Not Bush, which is lamer than Dick Cheney at the inauguration.
From time to time the Tree of Nuttery must be watered by the tears of Fuckwits.
Neilist: Wrong
See:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article6868007.ece
or
http://www.reuters.com/article/ObamaEconomy/idUSTRE5981NA20091009?feedType=RSS&feedName=ObamaEconomy&virtualBrandChannel=10441
(Hitler was nominated in 1939 and the nomination was subsequently wihtdrawn, Hitler had banned Germans from receieving Nobels after the Peace prize was awarded to a pacifict.)
Christ- you are all so miserable. What is up with you all- it is Friday and Bar won a prize. 3/4 of you sound like Fox which I never watch but only see or hear via Jon, Rachel or Wonkette. Believe me, people bitch about all the Nobel prizes and who should have won them but usually they are people who might have won. I’m prety sure none of you were in contention You are truly Harry Reid - let’s just see how we can make this bad- just like our majority in the House and Senate. Go get drunk or high or something
Just yesterday afternoon in the library I heard one angry-looking middle-aged white guy say to another, “Did you see where Obama surrendered to the Taliban? Can you imagine if he’d been president during World War Two?” This was an apparent reference to the administration’s new efforts to bring the Taliban into the political process in Afghanistan in order to further de-legitimize and isolate Al Qaeda. Which in theory might not be a bad idea, and I had to bite my tongue from engaging the guy on it. I imagine he saw the news this morning and stroked out, which means I’ll never see him in the library ever again.
“Believe me, people bitch about all the Nobel prizes and who should have won them ”
@finallyhappy
So he’s being a sexy black man is enough for you, then? Well, that’s just super.
Mustang: Grover the Good? Apparently, George Will’s alternate earth has an alternate history channel. I always thought of him more as Grover “the other guy REALLY must have sucked” Cleveland.
finallyhappy: I am already both drunk and high, thank you. The main question is, who is this “Nobel” guy, anyway? Did he invent medals or something?
Blargh.
CycloneArmageddon: Make that “SMART Sexy Black Man” .
Barry Jive &: Don’t care, dude. I’m still proudly driving my Volvo while texting on my Nokia!
Oh, I know. It’s for him slapping and killing, in one try, that disease-riddled fly that stalked him. I think it had AIDs or the Pig Flu or something and he kilt it and saved the world from Jeff Goldblum. Now it makes sense. Congrats Mr O!
Mustang: “Monkey boy” Bush… “Darth” Cheney…
HipHopOpotamus: You probably mean “defender”, but I very much look forward to Bolton future career as a “defendant”.
Seems to me that Mr. Erikson should learn to relax and get his calming mental enema with a little Andrew Sullivan sexy love-majic. Talk about being in a red state?
MICHELLE: Damn! What’s that smell?
BARACK: Sorry baby…I have Nobel gas. Ha ha ha!
MICHELLE: Keep that shit up, and you can forget about me ever polishing your medal. Got it?
BARACK: When you are in a heightened state of agitation, I find you excessively attractive.
MICHELLE: Nerd.
BARACK: Chocolate raaaiiinnn!
MICHELLE: Damn…
BARACK: History quickly crashing through your veins!
MICHELLE: You know what that song does to me…
BARACK: Chocolate raaaiiinnn!
MICHELLE: Aww…shit! You better get your fine ass mouth between my legs right this minute and start over from the beginning, or I’m gonna chocolate rain my fists upside your head. Sing it! Oh baby, SING!
BARACK: Chwwaawkkittwwayyymm…
Barry Jive &: First you’re Russian, then European, then you’re Finnish.
At least the Ob didn’t win it for Physics. That would have really pissed me off.
CycloneArmageddon: so being a stupid racist is enough for you then?
Prommie: the british usually don’t knight the irish.
btwbfdimho: now you gotta have joe wilson take the mic from him.
oh yeah…someone should make mention on some wingnut website…Beck got a Key to the city…Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize and money…suck it!
boy_howdy: I for one would appreciate skoalrebel’s assessment of this development.
Forget the righty wingnuts! All I know is that Bill Clinton must be so f*ckin pissed today.
Extemporanus: Damn, I wanted more. You cut us off skinimax style.
Extra bonus points if Obama donates the prize money to ACORN.
populucious: That was the FIRST thing I thought of this morning.
When I heard that President Obama won this year’s Nobel Peace Prize I immediately thought of an item that ran in Mad Magazine about 1960. It was a fake news story announcing a forthcoming movie about the life of Paul Anka, who had scored his first hit record in 1957, and followed it up with several other hits in 1958, 1959 and 1960. The punch line was that the running time for “The Paul Anka Story” movie would be three minutes. Quite similarly, in the same way that 1960 was too early for a biopic on Paul Anka, 2009 is too early to award President Obama with the Nobel Peace Prize.
Probably Norwegian politics is involved.
We could give GW Bush an alternative award. I propose the PLEXIGLASS BELLY-BUTTON, so that he can see where he is going, even though he has his head permanently up his ass.
Chandavkl: Uh, evidently not.