Hey, England did it!Newsmax contributor John L. Perry, the single most important newsman since Horace Greeley and Keith Olbermann combined, wrote a column yesterday about politics. It began like so: “There is a remote, although gaining, possibility America’s military will intervene as a last resort to resolve the ‘Obama problem.’ Don’t dismiss it as unrealistic.” But what if we want to dismiss it as unrealistic? It doesn’t matter what we want, though, because the secret “editors” at Newsmax have pulled the article.

Actual Soviet communist propaganda brigade Media Matters finds the text:

Will the day come when patriotic general and flag officers sit down with the president, or with those who control him, and work out the national equivalent of a “family intervention,” with some form of limited, shared responsibility?

Imagine a bloodless coup to restore and defend the Constitution through an interim administration that would do the serious business of governing and defending the nation. Skilled, military-trained, nation-builders would replace accountability-challenged, radical-left commissars. Having bonded with his twin teleprompters, the president would be detailed for ceremonial speech-making.

Military intervention is what Obama’s exponentially accelerating agenda for “fundamental change” toward a Marxist state is inviting upon America. A coup is not an ideal option, but Obama’s radical ideal is not acceptable or reversible.

We could tell that “John L. Perry” was a very serious person talking about serious things that are likely to happen when he, uhh, threw in a tElEpRoM-TErr joke, the conservative typist’s favorite digital armpit-fart.

Seriously, WTF? [Balloon Juice]
Newsmax columnist: Military coup “to resolve the ‘Obama problem’ ” is not “unrealistic” [Media Matters]

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  • choinski

    Awesome! I look forward to protesting about getting the US out of the US.

  • chascates

    The guy stated that officers don’t take the oath to obey the President, only enlisted men do. However I think there may be some Constitutional issues in the event of a military coup.

  • AbstinenceOnly Ed

    They pulled the article because THE COUP IS ALREADY IN MOTION!! Don’t blow it, Perry. BTW, your brother Rick’s secession distraction better work, or else!

  • Way Cool Larry

    Wingtards say the cutest things

  • PsycGirl

    TPM has the full text (not sure how to do that fancy link stuff)

    I particularly liked the part where he says that an American military coup would be civilized. Not sure if he really knows what a military coup is.

  • Click

    Don’t be fooled – the printed edition will be knocking Dan Brown off the Amazon bestseller list in 3…2…1.

  • OReillysVibrator

    “Skilled, military-trained, nation-builders would replace accountability-challenged, radical-left commissars.”

    Our coup-seeking military sure are skilled nation-builders who know about accountability and aren’t radical!

  • snideinplainsight

    Dude, Obama is the commander-in-chef. It’s his grill, and he can cook whatever he wants on it.

  • CrunchyKnee

    Why is that every time I read a wingnut screed, the song ‘Born to Lose’ by Johnny Thunders plays in my head?

  • Way Cool Larry

    didn’t they just trot out the same article they wrote in 1992, and substitute Obama for Clinton?

  • Dr. Spaceman

    Skilled, military-trained, nation-builders

    Who’s that, the U.N.?

  • Godot

    Jesus Christ, wasn’t electing Obama supposed to mean I could stop wanting to move to Canada?

  • RoscoePColtraine

    We dream of a country where the voters’ wishes are cast aside by a couple of Generals. If Corporate America can’t run the show, it’ll have to be the military.

  • Gallowglass

    Yeah. This will happen right after Texas becomes an independent country.

    I love how the left “hates America” but guys who call for terrorist attacks, military coups and the assassination of elected leaders are just good patriots.

  • snideinplainsight

    Main Entry: se·di·tion
    Pronunciation: \si-ˈdi-shən\
    Function: noun
    Etymology: Middle English sedicioun, from Anglo-French sediciun, from Latin sedition-, seditio, literally, separation, from sed-, se- apart + ition-, itio act of going, from ire to go — more at secede, issue
    Date: 14th century

    : incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority

  • FMA

    I can see only one problem: Burt Lancaster is dead.

  • slavojzizek

    Given our military’s awesome record in Iraq and Afghanistan, I suspect a military coup here would be every bit as successful as the one that stopped Gorbachev from restoring capitalism in the Soviet Union.

  • hunter.blatherer

    Calm down everyone, he said it’s not an ideal option. It would only be ideal if Jesus came back to personally lead the coup, but hey, you have to settle for what you can get.

  • Click

    [re=423284]PsycGirl[/re]: He only knows that a “coup” is a safe place for chickenhawks.

  • Rotundo

    When Newsmax yanks your column due to lunacy, you know you’ve taken that trip around the bend. This creature needs to put it back in his pants and back away from the keyboard and cheetos, wash up and get some sleep and medication. Damn…

  • hunter.blatherer

    [re=423292]Way Cool Larry[/re]: No, in 1992 they were planning a coup against HW Bush. And it wasn’t an article, the instructions were communicated via lip reading.

  • mollymcguire

    Skilled, military-trained, nation-builders: the ultimate death pannel

  • gurukalehuru

    “Imagine a bloodless coup to restore and defend the Constitution…” That was last November, John boy.

  • V572625694

    [re=423287]OReillysVibrator[/re]: Our nation builders have only one problem with nation-building: they’re no fucking good at it. And it’s not their fault. The system rewards aggressive warrior behavior, not touchy-feely “rule of law” and “sharing.” Ew. Okay, they did good in Germany and Japan after Dubya-Dubya Two. Unfortunately, all those guys are dead or retired. Nation-building exercises in the recent past: Vietnam, Somalia, Panama, Haiti, Bosnia, the I-raq, and Afri-ghanistan.

  • Hart88


    OK, somebody had to do it…

  • totoro

    I should start a Facebook poll asking who would join a coup against the President. Would I get a secret service phone call or an internet column?

  • bored with gravity

    [re=423295]Dr. Spaceman[/re]: Nah, he means like that ones we successfully placed in Iraq and Afganistan. Wait, wha…?

  • Atheist Nun

    Holy fucking shit. It’s hard to wring the humor out of this one. I dunno… how about a Blade Runner quote?

    Batty: Quite an experience to live in fear, isn’t it? That’s what it is to be a slave.

    Scared, tiny little man-children. Boo Hoo Hoo. It would be funny if they weren’t bona fide sociopaths who might actually lash out.

  • hobospacejunkie

    Please to have this “radical left” president begin to implement Marxist policies instead of the center-right pablum we’ve been spoonfed so far?

  • Godot

    [re=423295]Dr. Spaceman[/re]: Those nation-builders have done such a bang-up job in Afghanistan, too. So you KNOW we’d be getting top-quality work.

  • Prommie

    I’m not advocating a coup, mind you, I’m just saying, won’t some general and flag officers rid me of this meddlesome negro?

  • user-of-owls

    There’s an age-old joke in Latin America that goes:

    “Why are there no coups in the U.S.? Because there isn’t an American Embassy in Washington, DC.”

    So much for that logic! Soon enough, Barry will be telephoning CNN from inside the Brazilian Embassy in DC complaining about the toxic gases and sound beams.

  • TGY

    Gitmo, ahoy!

  • Smoke Filled Roommate

    [re=423309]Rotundo[/re]: I read that as, “…this creature needs to be put back in his pants”. Great mental image, there– naked, kicking and grunting with a Cheeto-stained keyboard trying to type while the powers that be force him back into his dungarees.

  • shortsshortsshorts

    You libtard fuckers were all screaming about how Monkey Pres was going to perform a coup and take over the universe back in 2005, and now some wingnut says the same thing about Obama? NAZIS, THE LOT OF YOU.

  • SayItWithWookies

    It’s amazing, these crazies’ faith in the ability of authoritarian seizure of power to preserve democracy. Especially when the democracy’s doing just fine on its own, mostly. Hell, Glenn Beck was talking to Ron Paul this morning (oh yes, and the crazy stupid was actually fogging up the windshield and making it hard to drive) and they were hypothesizing about an economic meltdown. This led Beck to say that it was such a good idea that it should probably happen now.

  • teebob2000

    Via Newsmax/Media Matters: “Mr. Perry served as a political appointee in the Carter administration in HUD and FEMA. He has no official relationship with Newsmax other than as an unpaid blogger.”

    This jerkwater was in the CARTER administration???!!!11 WTF is that all about?

  • populucious

    On the plus side, the military would have to be in favor of socialized medicine, seeing as they use so much of it.

  • iantenna

    is newsmax like cinemax but for news? if so, the article obviously got pulled ’cause it needs more boobies!

  • user-of-owls

    [re=423313]V572625694[/re]: Surely you don’t mean to imply that Haiti is not a shining beacon of democratic rule and prosperity?

  • Capricatony

    How would the teabaggers go about organizing this? “Here is a map to your asshole. If you are able to find it, you’re in!”

  • CivicHoliday

    I love a good Coup. Works so well for all those Central American and African nations.

  • randomsausage

    Newsmax — thus called because articles like this give their readers (fat, old, retarded white men) their only hope of an erection.

  • MARCdMan

    The wingnuts need to go back to fapping to Red Dawn and the latest edition of Soldier of Fortune and leave the political thought to the grownups.

  • Chuckie Jesus

    Dammit, seriously, if we really do have a Socialist/Fascist in power, then we would have long since had some money for healthcare! There’d be no need to dick around with Wingtards and their masturbatory fantasies of white slavery! They’d already be in the reeducation camps, rebuilding our economy through the manufacture of nice wicker baskets.

  • Rotundo

    [re=423324]Smoke Filled Roommate[/re]: I figured him to be a member of the 101st fightin’ keyboarders. Orange Fingers! Orange Shorts! Orange Dicks! FR33DUMMMMMB!!!11!!!!

  • magic titty

    Hasn’t the Turner Diaries already been written?

  • gurukalehuru

    Coup? Coup? CooCoo for Cocoa Puffs!

  • WhatTheHeck

    Makes no sense. How can the US become a banana republic when we don’t have banana plantations?

  • DoktorZoom

    Gee, and to think that I quit listening to the audiobook of Orson Scott Card’s laughably bad novel Empire halfway through, because it was just too silly for words.

    Now, if we learn that George Soros is secretly building a force of giant robots to implement a left-wing takeover of the USA (yes, that is a key plot point–the novel is the backstory for a video game), it would seem that I will owe Mr. Card a big apology.

  • x111e7thst

    Perhaps it is the enlisted military, with their silly notions of obeying the Commander in Chief, who are the real target audience for Oily Taintz’ birther babble? Cause without them there won’t be much in the way of coups d’etat.

  • Darkness

    [re=423346]Chuckie Jesus[/re]: Wicker baskets? Those traitors sort toxic waste materials or no go.

    [re=423331]teebob2000[/re]: Carter had a cadre of the Ol’ Style Suth’n Demnocrats in his administration. They haven’t all faded away yet, I dare say!

  • Barrett808
  • jodyleek

    [re=423320]Prommie[/re]: Meddlesome negro? You’re talking about Michael Steele, right?

  • DoktorZoom

    [re=423349]gurukalehuru[/re]: Coup-coup catchoo!

  • Darkness

    [re=423350]WhatTheHeck[/re]: How can the U.S. have trade protection barriers against bananas and open WTO cases against poverty stricken banana growing nations if we don’t have a native banana crop? Hmmmm?

  • Crank Tango

    [re=423350]WhatTheHeck[/re]: you know who does have banana plantations? Hawaii, that’s who! Or maybe they don’t, I dunno.

  • snideinplainsight

    The reason why I’m not worried is that most wingnuts can’t even spell junta. Plus it’s not Murican english.

  • nappyduggs

    A bloodless coup sounds about as righteous as skinless fuckin fried chicken. If they don’t behead Nobama in Pat Buchanan’s favorite birdbath, right in his front fuckin yard, how will they ever prove that the negroes have monkey blood?


  • WhatTheHeck

    [re=423359]Darkness[/re]: Because Dole says so.

  • President Beeblebrox

    Don’t laff at the idea, they almost tried the same thing with FDR with the so-called “Business Coup”. The gay BBC Radio 4 did an investigative story on it a while back, and the so-called “Business Coup” is well

    The coup was aimed at toppling President Franklin D Roosevelt with the help of half-a-million war veterans. The plotters, who were alleged to involve some of the most famous families in America, (owners of Heinz, Birds Eye, Goodtea, Maxwell Hpuse & George Bush’s Grandfather, Prescott) believed that their country should adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to beat the great depression.

  • MOG

    I believe it’s too late for a Dan Brown novel, see “Seven Days in May” for similar plot – made into a great movie. FYI – plot failed because most military men (don’t start squealing they were mosting men in those days), as shown in the movie, understood that their duty was to uphold the Constitution, not mess in politics.

  • twowheeljunkie

    Hey. He’s from Chicago. Obama won’t go down without a fight.

  • Naked Bunny with a Whip

    The guy stated that officers don’t take the oath to obey the President, only enlisted men do.

    Even if that’s true, are there a lot of officers who aren’t, at some point, enlisted rank? Can someone join the military directly as an officer?

  • chascates

    [re=423368]President Beeblebrox[/re]: This country IS repeating itself.

  • randomsausage

    I, for one, support our new military overlords

  • Terry


    I wish the skilled and military trained nation builders would put their minds to Iraq and Afghanistan. I wonder what they’ve been doing for the last so many years? Playing canasta? Working on a particularly challenging crossword puzzle?

  • Scarab

    The “Obama problem” for John Perry is that the President is black.

  • Click

    [re=423354]Barrett808[/re]: Don’t worry gals, we’ll still retain the American Idol suffrage we’ve fought so long and hard for.

  • qaf

    [re=423331]teebob2000[/re]: Bullshit. He’s been writing weekly columns for them since 1999, according to TPM.

  • snoidoid

    Bloodless coup? I’m still hoping for a bloodless forced secession!

  • Click

    [re=423377]Naked Bunny with a Whip[/re]: yes.

  • Johnny Zhivago

    [re=423304]FMA[/re]: Charlton Heston can pull this off.

  • PsycGirl

    [re=423377]Naked Bunny with a Whip[/re]: Also a problem: will the officers have to do all the couping themselves? Wouldn’t a project of this magnitude require some enlisted personnel? and wouldn’t the enlisted guys then have to fight the officers, since they still have to listen to Obama?
    this has all the makings of a really, really bad movie.

  • Crank Tango

    [re=423383]Click[/re]: I wouldn’t be so sure. We already lost the vote on “make me a supermodel,” what’s next?

  • Johnny Zhivago

    Just tell me this Perry person isn’t obsessed with the purity of his fluids…

  • Monsieur Grumpe

    Want to carpool?

  • slappypaddy

    what a doofus. there was a far greater, though still remote, chance that the military would have revolted against the bush league if smirky and dickie and company had pushed too hard for a pre-emptive on iran. and as far as revolts go, schlesinger when he was sec’y of defense in the waning days of tricky dick informed the high command that the pres was not to be obeyed if he ordered any bullshit strikes on the russkies and shit i have forgotten what my point is but that’s today’s history lesson class there’s the bell it’ll be on the quiz, time for lunch!

  • Naked Bunny with a Whip

    [re=423387]Click[/re]: *facepaws*

  • sagebrush

    Is John L. Perry, coup inciter, any relation to Gov. Rick Perry, would be President of secessionist Texas? They certainly seem to be drinking the same Kool-aid, if nothing else.

  • McDuff

    I’m confused. George W. Bush said the U.S. military should not be involved in nation buidling, so he got rid of all the nation builders in the military because they were gay. So Perry wants the gay nation builders back in the military so they can take over?

  • Click

    [re=423390]Crank Tango[/re]: [re=423387]Click[/re]: …sort of.

  • Formerly Known as KevoTron

    Let me get this straight…the winger logic pattern goes like this: The Socialists are going to lock us up and put us in FEMA camps so we need to lock them up first?

    Gotcha. Are we sure Michelle Malkin didn’t ghost write this?

  • Click

    Don’t ask me to explain that last non sequitor.

  • GayInMaine

    [re=423298]Godot[/re]: I literally can see Canada from my house. Every now and then I think I should sneak across the border now before they decide to build a fence.

  • iolanthe

    [re=423345]MARCdMan[/re]: Here’s what they’re *really* fapping to:

    This is Blackwater’s own domestic terrorist training camp. Check out the hot women shootin’ stuff!!

  • Naked Bunny with a Whip

    @GayInMaine: And face their death panels?!

  • Cape Clod

    [re=423368]President Beeblebrox[/re]: They had a program on that on the History Channel. It seems the coup failed because the former general chosen to lead the revolt was outraged by the whole plot and tried to expose the plotters as traitors.

    To be honest, I never believe for a second that my masturbatory fantasies ever have a hope of becoming real.

  • iolanthe

    [re=423405]iolanthe[/re]: And note that the connection with Blackwater (now “Xe”, ever since, I guess, somebody told ’em that “blackwater” is a synonym for “sewage”) is carefully detailed in about 6-point type, at the very bottom of the page:

    (((((Copyright © 2009 U.S. Training Center – All Rights Reserved An Xe company.)))))

  • StoneAge

    First black president, people. Sure, I thought the ATF would have to gun down the occasional Klansman in his militia compound, but I honestly didn’t think there would be this much conspiracy mongering. How naive of me.

  • Crank Tango

    [re=423410]Cape Clod[/re]: I’ve found that when mine do become real, the girl is usually not as hot under all those clothes as I had imagined. But they rarely come true anymore. I has a old.

  • widget09

    Sure, abrogating the will of the people is always a winning proposition. Just who will be the “interim” civilian President? Glen Beck? Rush Limbaugh? or maybe even Michelle Bachmann. Happy Happy Joy Joy. WTF?

  • Native of SL UT

    [re=423325]shortsshortsshorts[/re]: Ah yes, the good ol’ days when we Libtards were so afraid that Bush was going to stage a coup and overthrow… himself….or Dick.. or somethiing.

  • Guppy06

    So this guy would “affect to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power?” He wants to “combine with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws?” Is he trying to “excite domestic Insurrections amongst us?”

    Isn’t this supposed to be exactly what the Second and Third(!) Amendments are there to protect us against?

    If you’ll excuse me, I need to go pound my head against a convenient wall for a few hours.

  • fishskicanoe

    Every time I hear a Paultard or other right wing nut whine about Statism I get the Allende flashbacks. I hate the Allende flashbacks. Arrest this guy for sedition.

  • Darkness

    [re=423405]iolanthe[/re]: Imagine Congress defunding the Real Threat to America! Since we are discussing fantasy anyway…

    [re=423368]President Beeblebrox[/re]: Good old laundryingmoneyforthenazis granddad Bush being on the still classified list of bankers helping plot that coup somehow would not surprise me.

  • Jim89048

    The revolution will not be televised.

  • Darkness

    [re=423325]shortsshortsshorts[/re]: Speaking of Bush coups . . . show me where in the constitution it says that the Supreme Court gets to appoint the president.

  • chapka

    If the right-wingers really did pull off a military coup, clearly all of the Constitution-hugging pro-Obama types have to become…


  • Snarkalicious

    [re=423350]WhatTheHeck[/re]: No, but we do import them. We could, therefore, use issues regarding Banana production and pricing as a pretext to levy sanctions against, and/or go to war with…let’s see here, who’s the top producer of nanners in the world?…ah-HA! India it is. Good thing we’re already in the area, ya?

  • Patricia84

    In dingbat wingnuts news … : a nice little military coup to overthrow the Marxist Fascist Muslin Manchurian president from Kenya with no birth certificate and who spent his youth in Asia killing your grandma, also.

  • Chickensmack

    Just off-topic slightly, but who’s the poor bastard that has to hit F5 every three minutes on Newsmax,, and WND? That’s what I wanna know. I feel sorry for that person, because you know they probably hate the fuck out of their job.

  • binarian

    Where the fuck do these people come from? What makes these people think the military is itching to insurrect? Just ’cause one Army Dentist shits her drawers at the notion of deployment to Iraq and Orly Taint goes to bat for her with hair-brained lawsuit doesn’t mean the Pentagon is straining at the leash to take over the government. Take your meds, John, and let the nurse tuck you in.

  • stanpan

    My Argentine wife and her family lived through several military coups. Back during the Dirty War, they had to hide their old shotguns and pistols in the basement when the military came calling. Come to think of it, the only positive thing to come out of a coup would be seeing the look on the gun fetishists’ faces when the military confiscated their weapons.

  • desertwind

    General McCrystal sure seems onboard the coup train.

  • Pithaughn

    [re=423489]Darkness[/re]: Zackly. Check me if I’m wrong but I don’t remember any of the Supremes bleeding out on marble steps after appointing the child of the president that appointed them as preznutt.

  • Min

    These damn people are going to force me to buy a gun. And don’t get me started on the use of the phrase “the Obama problem”. What’s next, sedition as a “final solution”?

  • Johnny Zhivago

    [re=423405]iolanthe[/re]: Hmmm… they train private civilians too…

    Wonder if Ken ever considered forming a Wonkette Military Detachment or an Armed Auxilary Assault Squad?

  • Neilist

    No coup? Gesh, what am I supposed to do with all these Romainan AK47s I bought for all you future . . .


    [I get the Charlie Sheen role. I’ve been trying my entire life for it.]

  • Crank Tango

    [re=423554]Johnny Zhivago[/re]: Wonkettines!

  • Zorg

    Where’s Major General Smedley D. Butler when you need him?

  • gurukalehuru

    [re=423377]Naked Bunny with a Whip[/re]: Yes. That’s what the academies are for.

  • comicbookguy

    This just in, Obama and the military have agreed to a power-sharing agreement. Power to be shared half and half between the President and the Commander in Chief of the military (as defined by the Constitution). Effective immediately.

    Right wing nutjobs can relax now. Done and done!

  • iburl

    “Skilled, military-trained, nation-builders” wow when did we get one?

  • funkyj

    [re=423354]Barrett808[/re]: wimmenz sufferage


  • bamaboy

    [re=423567]Neilist[/re]: You got me, LOL.

    The few, the proud, the Wonkerines.

  • Marmel


    How much more of this crap is the majority supposed to take?

  • Min

    [re=423354]Barrett808[/re]: I hope his momma kicks his ass.

  • rmjag

    a national ‘ family intervention ‘ ? they had 8 years to do that and failed when it would have done some good … but , with military stretched sooooo thin overseas , they won’t be in the way when these patriots turn to blackwater for assistance . the funds to pay them have already been laundered out of the u.s.a. treasury via halliburton etc … new orleans / katrina was just a practice run

  • Catholics4Condoms

    U.S. Constitution Article II, Section 2: “The President shall be Commander-in-Chief of the Army and the Navy…” A military coup would be known my another name…mutiny.

    An overthrow of the elected executive to defend the constitution is like filing for divorce in order to save your marriage.

  • Lazy Media

    [re=423368]President Beeblebrox[/re]: Those dipshits had about as much chance of overthrowing FDR as they had of building a Buck Rogers steam-powered Moon Ship to allow them to flee the country. Just because a bunch of whiney rich people sit around TALKING nonsense doesn’t mean nonsense is likely to happen.

    Odds that this Newsmax wingtard served in the military? I’m assuming zero.

  • Wonker1

    Obviously a member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy:

    Perry also has had a distinguished career in public policy. He served President Lyndon B. Johnson as deputy under secretary of commerce and was a White House speech writer and race-relations trouble-shooter for President Johnson.

    In the Jimmy Carter administration, he was executive assistant to the under secretary of Housing and Urban Development and was interim director of public information for the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

    Perry served as press aide to Gov. LeRoy Collins of Florida and executive assistant to the speaker of the Florida House of Representatives.

    Perry was also assistant to the president of the National Association of Broadcasters, a member of the top-management team and director of public relations for the 1982 World’s Fair in Knoxville, Tenn., and an academic fellow at the Center for the Study of Democratic Institutions in Santa Barbara, Calif.

    You’re entitled to your own opinion. You are not entitled to your own facts.

  • Lazy Media

    [re=423848]Wonker1[/re]: So what you’re saying is, he used to have a working brain, but now he’s just a paranoid old kook? Plus, he apparently can’t hold a job.

  • Crank Tango

    [re=423848]Wonker1[/re]: and? finish the thought, asshole.

  • the problem child

    [re=423848]Wonker1[/re]: So, dementia? Or was he always skating above his level of incompetence?

  • Neilist

    [re=423675]bamaboy[/re]: I find it disquieting that some of you in here are starting to sound like moi.

  • sprankles

    I LOVE military juntas!

  • Click

    [re=423848]Wonker1[/re]: Have you had a chance to try one of our many delectable flavors of salted -or unsalted- poison rat dicks?

  • Maxfretless

    Just a historical note: Smedley Butler was the retired Marine General the businessmen’s coup approached in 1933. Perhaps to compensate for being named “Smedley” Butler remains the only U.S. serviceman to be awarded two Congressional Medals of Honor. One of America’s great badasses, Butler refused to support the coup, later wrote a book denouncing his activities during the “Banana Wars” in the Caribbean called “War is a Racket” and is also the only U.S. General to ever run for president on the Socialist Party ticket. If there is anyone in history who could make the name “Smedley” cool, it is Major-General Butler, the “fighting quaker” from Westchester, Pa. I want a time machine so I can go to 1932 and bring General Butler back to give John Perry a proper USMC beatdown. It would be beautiful!

  • Click

    [re=423917]Maxfretless[/re]: “My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of the higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military.”
    This guy I like.

  • zhubajie

    [re=423280]chascates[/re]: Enlisted men swear to uphold th Constitution, just like officers.

  • zhubajie

    [re=423313]V572625694[/re]: I don’t know about Germany, but the US gave up re-making Japan about 1950. Once the Korean War and the Cold War started, they put the old pre-WW II oligarchs and war criminals back in charge.

  • zhubajie

    [re=423322]user-of-owls[/re]: We have invisible coups that are not labled “coup”. At the time of the Iran-Contra scandal, an African grad student told me “sounds just like a coup in Africa!” Certainly the Bushies staged a sort of coup after 9-11.

  • zhubajie

    You know, guys, today is the 60th anniversary of the People’s Republic of China. For all the disasters you’ve heard of, the commies did install a basic national health care system. The typical baby born in 1949 died within a year. The typical baby born in 1954, 5 years later, lived. That’s why the population of China has grown so much, in spite of the Great Leap Forward famines, the Cultural Revolution, etc.

  • assistant/atlas

    Ummm….no offense to our brave soldiers, who are quite awesome, but….

    Skilled, military-trained, nation-builders* would replace accountability-challenged**, radical-left*** commissars.

    *Just like they did Vietnam, Somalia, Iraq and Afghanistan
    **Elections, schmlections
    ***If Obama’s a radical leftist then I’m so leftist I went all the way around and ended up being a right-winger.

    [re=423298]Godot[/re]: +1

  • zhubajie

    How many times have you heard Americans say that the US ought to be run like a corporation? That means some kind of authoritarian dictatorship, doesn’t it? With figure-head, rubber-stamp, supervision.

  • comicbookguy


    The Colonel: All that snark’s gonna burn you up, kid.
    Robert: It keeps me warm.


  • chascates

    [re=423955]zhubajie[/re]: True. Perry’s argument seemed to be that officers weren’t under an obligation to obey a President although he is the Commander-in-Chief.

    Fortunately for us 95% of the GOP are chickenhawks so they’re out of the equation altogether.

  • facehead

    Of course it isn’t unrealistic.

    Now let me tell you my theory about how Amazonian dolphins killed JFK.

  • Aflac Shrugged

    [re=423848]Wonker1[/re]: I know that the first thing I ask myself whenever I hear someone advocating the overthrow of a lawfully elected government is whether that person has executive experience.

  • Darkness

    [re=423969]zhubajie[/re]: So, you are saying that capitalism should return China to a sustainable population level again?

    At the rate they are poisoning their water supplies alone, this is possible…

  • glamourdammerung

    [re=423848]Wonker1[/re]: He is writting for a right wing outfit and advocating conspiracy and treason. Is there some way that does not qualify as a right wing conspiracy that I am not aware of?

  • BlueStateLibtard

    Aren’t these the same people who advocated we spend billions of dollars and throw away countless lives in order to bring democracy and elections to other countries? But now, because they don’t like the results of the last election, they would like to bring a bloodbath to this country and install a military government? My goldfish has more logic and consistency than them.

  • Flanders

    [re=423363]Crank Tango[/re]: But Hawaii is in Kenya!

  • TJBeck

    I for one, agree with Mr. Smith in this article:

    Screw Bipartisan!
    John L. Perry
    Dec. 20, 2000

    “… Bipartisanship – regardless of which party is on top or on bottom – is the dumbest, most-impractical, non-accountable wad of wooled-up thinking ever introduced into the body politic.

    The overriding reason why bipartisanship should be shunned is it’s just plain un-American.

    Under the American form of government, political-party accountability is essential, and anything that erodes, let alone destroys, that accountability is subversive.

    This country largely governs itself by electing officials put forward by competing political parties, which then are held accountable by the electorate for the policies and practices their nominees espouse and implement – and how they go about doing that.

    It is a competitive form of government – a clashing of opposing political philosophies and programs. And in that clashing, the better idea should not only emerge victorious but also be improved by the scrubbing it gets from the opposing side.

    Partisan is not a dirty word. It is the most-wholesome word in a democratic Republic, which is what this country is….”

    John L. Perry, a prize-winning newspaper editor and writer who served on White House staffs of two presidents, is senior editor and a regular columnist for

  • Sparky McGruff

    [re=423325]shortsshortsshorts[/re]: “You libtard fuckers were all screaming about how Monkey Pres was going to perform a coup and take over the universe back in 2005”

    No, we were screaming about how Dick Cheney was going to take over the universe back in 2005. Monkey boy was busy playing Nintendo and figuring out how to fuck up the Katrina relief efforts. And, for the record, I’m not yet taking my eyes off Cheney.

  • iolanthe

    [re=424287]TJBeck[/re]: I like how in this old article, Perry is called “senior editor and regular columnist for”, when, in the recent flap they were all, like, “Hey … we hardly even *know* the guy. We’ve got no real connection with him.”


  • AxmxZ

    “But Media Matters has received the following statement from a Newsmax spokesperson:

    In a blog posting to Newsmax John Perry wrote about a coup scenario involving the U.S. military. He clearly stated that he was not advocating such a scenario but simply describing one.”

    Phew, that’s a load off my mind!

    So guys, how many of you think it would be splendid to have John Perry’s home address found out and his house set on fire in the middle of the night? With all the doors propped shut from the outside beforehand? That would be some spectacular shit. Imagine that dumbfuck scream and wave his flabby little arms with fat sizzling off of them: “Oh, heeehp meh, heeehp meh, somebody heeep me! Fire, fire! Call a non-government privately contracted emergency response team!!” And then he would fall over from smoke inhalation and roast in peace. And afterwards, stray cats and dogs from all over the neighborhood can come and feast on his charred, semi-sweet flesh. Heh heh.

  • IonaTrailer

    On a related note, Ted Kennedy is now eligible to vote in Chicago elections.

  • glamourdammerung

    [re=425133]IonaTrailer[/re]: Got any jokes that are not 40+ years old?

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