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The Baucus caucusOur dear friends in the Senate Finance Committee have voted down the Schumer/Cantwell “less cool but still cool” public option amendment as well, 13-10 (Dems voting no: Baucus, Conrad, Lincoln), so there will officially (we think?) not be a public option in the Senate Finance Committee bill. SURPRISE.

Now there is still a chance for a public option bill coming out of the Senate in the end — the Finance bill still has to be merged with the HELP Committee’s bill — but note Max Baucus’ rationale for voting against both this and the Rockefeller amendment: a public option wouldn’t pass the Senate! Well, it can: if the Dems can come together as 60 in a cloture vote, then the final floor vote on a public option would only need 50. Would you like to be one of the few Democrats standing on the floor, with the entire Republican caucus, to filibuster a health care bill from reaching an up-or-down vote on the Senate?

But of course the Democratic majority would never actually make the opposition go through with a real-life filibuster. Tacky!

Many Options for a Public Option — Even if Not Enough Votes [NYT]

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  1. kinda OT. My mother just showed me the pharmacy bill for her friend. It was for 20 pills of one of the strongest make-you-sicker-than-hell antibiotics around. The copay was $50. Without insurance, the cost would have been $2,300.
    For TWENTY pills.
    Sorry to be a concern-troll but WTF?!

  2. Wow, my mom is gonna be surprised to find that her Medicare has been revoked. I’ll have to let her know when she sends her next batch of wingnut chain emails.

  3. in
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  4. “I won’t vote for it because it won’t pass, especially without the votes of people like me.”

    Um — let me prepare a rebuttal. Rebuttal, by the way, is the name of my nine-pound cast-iron skillet.

  5. Don’t call’em Blue Dogs anymore cause dogs might be needy and sometimes dumb but they’re brave and loyal.

    More like Blue Balled Dickey Cohens.

  6. Dems in name only, whores in reality, voting to please their corporate masters? Once again, thank you framers of the constitution, for saving us from the tyranny of the majority and delivering us into the arms of those who would kill their own children for another dollar from Big Health Care.

  7. What a bunch of pussies. The Democrats always lose. The country deserves it’s KFC lifestyle and dumbfuck skoalrebel overlords. Congress IS bought and paid for.

    America say Ahhhh, here comes your giant corporate cock…MMMMMMMMmmm Capitalism…I means FREEDUMBS!!

  8. [re=422565]shadowMark[/re]:
    You really need to let go of the past
    I find that if I write their name
    in a small piece of paper and
    then just burn it, it helps
    to ease that awful pain
    that takes over you
    late at night
    making you
    cry

  9. [re=422579]hobospacejunkie[/re]: Well, to be fair, I don’t think the Founders had a body of lobbyist-pimped whores, half of whom represent flat, empty plains in mind when they set everything up. And, heck, actually the Senate is more “democratic” since the Progressives drove through direct election.

  10. Any system that gives Masturbating Max Baucus, who represents a state with a population of about 12 people, such supreme power over the life & death of the thousands who die each year w/o medical insurance is one fucked up system.

  11. Hey, non working people, did MSNBC have the split screen with Norah O’Donnell and Tamron Hall again today?? .. oh yeah, and the public option is very blah blah blah.

  12. [re=422546]bitchincamaro[/re]: I was just thinking about this. I hope Keith is actually there tonight — I think Baucus needs another “Special Comment” to listen to while he eats his bag of lightly salted rat dicks.

  13. Only good news is that the Finance Committee Bill is the only one of five versions don’t have the public option. Otherwise, Baucus and the no gang should seriously get fucked.

  14. Does anybody else notice that when you put a cat into the
    microwave it does little more than fry the cat?
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    age man will come to grips with the folly of the microwave

    And Baucus evil. Also.

  15. “We didn’t vote for the public option because if we had it would’ve ended-up in the Senate bill which won’t pass unless we vote for it and we won’t vote for it unless it has strong bipartisan support so we would have no other choice than to not vote for it or it might otherwise have enough votes to pass and that would of course be completely unacceptable.

    Seriously guys, we’re doing you a huge favor by not putting us all through that. Can you please try to show a little gratitude here? Do you want us to reform this health care thing, or not?

    Jeez.”

    – Montana Max and The Testes Tones, September 29, 2009

  16. republicans and their DINO buttboys
    are such egalitarians they want US
    citizens to be impoverished third
    world peasants just like every
    one else. they are like Bono
    is for AIDS if Bono went
    around stabbing kids
    with dirty needles.

  17. [re=422561]GreatOldOnesParty[/re]: exact same pill made by the exact same company will cost $80 total in Mexico.

    We are #1…we pay more than anyone else, even those Canuks!

  18. “I can’t vote for it because people like me will vote against it” is the most fucked up reasoning for a vote I have ever heard. I mean, seriously, that just eats the big one right there.

    Guess what? If you vote for it, then people like you (you, in fact) will vote for it. It’s like a prophecy or some shit like that.

  19. [re=422597]bored with gravity[/re]: I am boycotting “lightly salted” rat dicks in favor of the salt-cured kind. I want to make sure they don’t go down so easy…

  20. [re=422619]Dave J.[/re]: Baucus is tryin’ to cover his ass here…..not working. Now nobody will believe anything that fucker says about health insurance, ever. he is a damnnnn LIAR.

  21. Great. These Democrats want to be like Joe Lieberman now? I’d punch myself in the face until I pass out, but the medical bills will cost me my Nissan. Why did they hate the public option so much? Because it made too much sense! Special thanks to Wellpoint and Blue Cross for the super awesome swag bags. Fuckers. Every Dem mentioned in this article should have their health care revoked with a pair of piping hot pliers.

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  23. Fuck, shit. I hate this soul sucking job. If it was’nt for the insurance I would literally leave right now, without saying a word. Fucking golden handcuffs. And to think I sent money to the DNC and O campaigns, I actually risked my life going door to door in a trailer park full of gun toting Natty drinking Skoal spitters for these ass hats.

  24. How about the Dems go eat a bag of dicks, and keep at it until they pass some goddamn effective health care reform?

    That means public option and the whole nine yards, you worthless fucks.

  25. Could someone please explain to me exactly what the fuck Kent Conrad’s problem is? He’s smart enough with all his economic graphs to realize that the economics are totally in favor of doing ANYTHING other than what we currently do. He really can see NDP-run Manitoba and Canadian-healthcare-inventing Saskatchewan from his front porch. He lives in a state with a state-run bank and a socialized grain mill (Progressive-era leftovers). Hell, he’s the one fricking Unitarian in the Senate. I want to like him. I want to like NoDak. WTF is his problem?

  26. [re=422665]Mojopo[/re]: second that.
    [re=422738]Pithaughn[/re]:
    word. fuckers are not getting any mo money from me, that fur sure.

    I have a pre existing condition or two so getting screwed daily!
    I pay my taxes, so I pay for fucking Maxs health insurance, and Barrys insurance, and Snowes insurance.
    I pay my insurance company.
    then I pay my doctor.

    It is all money for nothing for me, I can go bankrupt in this current system after paying my bill for 30 years.

  27. As one of her constituents, I can declare without fear of refutation that Blanche “DuBois” Lincoln is an enemy of humanity. Arkansas has a six member delegation. Five have D behind their names. Four of those should have a backwards R branded publicly, painfully and irreversibly onto their wretched cheeks.

    To paraphrase the Most Interesting Man in the World, “I don’t always spit unadulterated vitriol at my elected representatives, but when I do, it’s at…THE ENTIRE FUCKING PUSS-SUCKING ARKANSAS DEMOCRATIC IMPERSONATOR DELEGATION (Not you Vic Snyder…you good!) IN CONGRESS.”

  28. So, let me get this straight:

    [re=422557]TGY[/re]: Today, we are all fucked.

    Because the Senate is [re=422559]Crank Tango[/re]: all dicks and no balls.

    Who use the excuse that [re=422568]SayItWithWookies[/re]: “I won’t vote for it because it won’t pass, especially without the votes of people like me.”

    And, it turns out that you [re=422570]ManchuCandidate[/re]: Don’t call’em Blue Dogs anymore cause dogs might be needy and sometimes dumb but they’re brave and loyal. More like Blue Balled Dickey Cohens.

    Which leads to option 1 that [re=422571]Texan Bulldoggette[/re]: … I might as well have voted a straight Republican ticket in November. What the hell would have been the difference at this point??

    Or option 2 is for you to [re=422576]Buzz Feedback[/re]: …spend the rest of my life writing in my neighbor’s name instead of voting for Democrats.

    And this is because (as above) they are [re=422579]hobospacejunkie[/re]: Dems in name only, whores in reality, voting to please their corporate masters? Once again, thank you framers of the constitution, for saving us from the tyranny of the majority and delivering us into the arms of those who would kill their own children for another dollar from Big Health Care.

    So in conclusion they are a [re=422585]El Pinche[/re]: …bunch of pussies. The Democrats always lose. The country deserves its KFC lifestyle and dumbfuck skoalrebel overlords. Congress IS bought and paid for.
    America say Ahhhh, here comes your giant corporate cock…MMMMMMMMmmm Capitalism…I means FREEDUMBS!!

    Because [re=422594]hobospacejunkie[/re]: Any system that gives Masturbating Max Baucus, who represents a state with a population of about 12 people, such supreme power over the life & death of the thousands who die each year w/o medical insurance is one fucked up system.

    With that in mind I will expect more stories like this without the happy ending? [re=422561]GreatOldOnesParty[/re]: … “My mother just showed me the pharmacy bill for her friend. It was for 20 pills of one of the strongest make-you-sicker-than-hell antibiotics around. The copay was $50. Without insurance, the cost would have been $2,300…

    WOW, we ARE Fucked!

  29. So I will be forced to buy insurance from an insurance company or face a fine. And I’m sure before it’s all done my preexisting conditions won’t qualify either.

    Now, on to sabotaging the climate change bill.

  30. [re=422768]Whatever Blows Your Skirt[/re]:

    I think we should all copy this post and the thread link and send it to every member of Congress.

    Or we could just start a Facebook poll to see who thinks Max & Friends should assassinated.

  31. Health insurance reform will pass. And when it does, our long national nightmare of common Americans getting fucked up the ass by common criminals will come to an end. Because corruption will be on the run, baby. You can take that to the bank.

  32. [re=422816]slowhansolo[/re]: You are correct sir. Left-right is a mirage. Top-down is teh realness. Alas and alack.

    Would you like some hemlock with your insurance bill?

  33. Let me be clear, I will use my limited and dwindling financial resources to help fund just about any electoral challenge to Baucus. That’s right; this isn’t about ideology, anymore, for me, it’s about payback. And, that the Democrats set Baucus up as their go-to man on health care will draw my ire, as well.

    Senator Baucus, may your name-sake Greek god drown you in a vat of sweet, sweet Merlot. You owe us, Dionysus.

  34. Will everyone who knows their state party rules post some links with deadlines and application requirements?

    Primaries are when the party lines
    get drawn so it’s time to
    get partyin’ like a
    partisan.

    Everyone knows I’m from Idaho here, so I’m going to go full retard and change my name to Mr. Potato-sack or Lizard People or Pro-Life or Max Rammell or some nonsense. God, I’m so proud.

    Well, at least I don’t have to feel responsible for Bauccus. He’s the responsibility of the stupid Shelbyvillians.

  35. They should just quit calling til they pass this shit. Hoping their fundraising numbers are low come this deadline they bitch about on their fiftieth phone call begging for cash, so the leadership knows what’ll happen to their sorry asses.

    You have the majority, you tools, now earn the motherfucker. We bought it on your word.

  36. Countdown to conservative praise for the Blue Cross Donkeydick’s courage in taking a principled stand. “It’s so true, you can’t vote for government-controlled health scare because it wouldn’t pass unless you voted for it, despite what liberal-socialists would like you to believe, Wolf”.
    Dems, stop bowing to false bi-partisan ideal when it’s clear GOP has no interest in anything but obstruction. Leave them to pout from the sidelines. If the Dems could only pull their dresses down for a moment, instead of wasting their majority. Should have seen it coming. No beatdown of Joe Lieberman, Max “Blue Cross, Pull Out and Cum on My” Baucus gumming every tragic tool in town. Con rad? Lincoln? It’s time to ask “What Would Cheney Do?” Effective if evil son of a bitch when it came to legislation. >sob<

  37. [re=423179]Senile Agitation[/re]: “If the Dems could only pull their dresses down for a moment.”
    Of course, that remark is referring to men in drag, right? Because us womenfolk aren’t half the pussies these fuckers are.

  38. We do not want mandatory health insurance. My faith says to believe God and not man for healing; I have seen God heal what doctors say is impossible. “LP Beria, Psycho-Politics Address on Health Care and Control” said the only thing that could stop control of the people through Health Care was faith healing and it must be discredited and wiped out. Congress cannot force me to go against my religion. That is in the Constitution.

    Details of threats and what we can do about them is at http://www.divine-way.com

    Twitter:
    Sending YouTube of Ronald Reagan Speaks Out Against Socialized Medicine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs

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