Oh? Racist. Don’t give them too much credit, CNN. “(CNN) — Posters portraying President Obama as a witch doctor may be racist, organizers of Tea Party protests say, but they reflect anger about where he is leading the country.” Yes, racist anger. [CNN]

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  1. From Charles Krauthammer about Maureen Dowd’s column about racism:

    The accusation of racism is a sign of desperation by
    people who know they are losing the national debate and they want to hurl the ultimate charge in American politics.
    This is dealing from the bottom of the deck and I agree that it is a
    disgusting tactic. It’s done as a way to end debate. The minute you call someone a racist the debate is over, you don’t continue. Accusations of racism are the last refuge of the liberal scoundrel.

    Apparently racism is only made real by the appearance of a burning cross or a noose.

  2. “Posters…may be racist, but they reflect anger…”

    This is a great meme, useful in so many ways: I may be throwing a Molotov cocktail in the lobby of your office building, Halliburton, but it reflects my anger about your gouging of the taxpayers for the past 20 years.

  3. The only reason this is an issue is because Conservatives are not adult enough to call out their racist and defend them by claiming that saying that some Conservatives (obviously) are racist, people are saying that any one that disagrees with Obama is racist.

    There is a big difference between someone who wants to argue policy, and someone that wants to argue about birth certificates, death panels, and “czars,” when they didn’t give a damn about any of this until their was a black person in charge. Why is it that Glen Beck doesn’t get scolded by the right for saying the President is a racist and “hates white people,” but you dare suggest that a person who caries a poster of Obama as a African witch doctor you have committed a sin worse than Joe Wilson?

  4. [re=413720]chascates[/re]: Uh, no, Mr. Krauthammer. The debate ended sometime between “don’t kill grandma” and “you lie!”

    Goddamn is there anything I hate more than the Post?

  5. “but they reflect anger about where he is leading the country.”
    How DARE Obama lead them out of the good ol’ commie-fearing, segregated, nazi-hatin’, white-hood-wearing 1950s! The nerve.

  6. And what the hell’s up with this anger thing, anyway? For most of my life, what I heard about liberals was that we’re inordinately angry — just a bunch of undergratified, spoiled kids getting outraged about everything they could find. And now all of a sudden the teabaggers show up, yelling about Obama’s birth certificate, death panels and bringing fucking guns to rallies (looking not at all like a lynch mob, of course) and the same people who were tossing around “anger” as though it was completely the wrong emotion to have about my country being induced to torture people and invade others for no reason, are now kneeling at the altar of God-given Anger, the redeemer. Not that I expect consistency from these assholes — though a little memory of what they were so against yesterday might add credibility to their cause.

    Oh, and yes — racist. Like torture, deficit spending, WMDs, and whether smoking causes cancer, the jury’s still out.

  7. [re=413720]chascates[/re]: So, according to Krauthammer, the minute you call someone racist the debate is over. But when you compare someone to Hitler, that’s just god ol’ fashioned debatery, right?

  8. It took them a while after the initial shock of OMGTHEYELECTEDAFUCKINGNIGGERPRESIDENT, but they are really starting to pull it all together. No matter what calm and rational argument we have, they find a way to twist, exaggerate, or outright lie and ultimately shout us down.

    When will we learn?

  9. [re=413735]american mutt[/re]: Well…get to it, already. I’m looking forward to the 5 hour twitching orgasm induced by seeing every one of the brown folk in America turn up in whiteface on the same day. If you could also all carry Michael Bolton CDs and describe General Tso’s Chicken as ‘a little too hot,’ that’d be a nice touch.

  10. [re=413744]SayItWithWookies[/re]: What? You expect consistent logic and English language use from conservatards?


  11. [re=413720]chascates[/re]:
    On the other hand, I’ve noticed that when Libruls hit back and hit home, the Cons play the “Libs r disper8 and thier so low so I’m offended and why can’t we be cibil?” card a lot.

  12. [re=413736]RoscoePColtraine[/re]: [re=413738]masterofzen[/re]: You are correct. Personal snark fail on my part (Inshallah, Denby).

    My point is that Teabaggers think any degree of African-ness is an indicator of evil. No medicare compensation for you, Dr. Matumbe. Also.

  13. Here CNN lemme help you out a bit:
    ‘White sheets, pointy hats and a burning cross…racist or a gathering of like minded civic leaders?’

    We truly have become a nation of dumbasses

  14. [re=413752]Snarkalicious[/re]: Oooooh. I’m picturing the next march on Washington now. Every brown, black, red, yellow, etc. person in America (minus Michael Steele, naturally), in white face, marching to the capital. The signs could read, “what’s your excuse now, fuckers?” and “NOW can we debate policy?” (Or they could just put a picture of Joe Wilson, photoshopped with a white hood. That works too.)

  15. A hundred years ago, we’d be asking these people how they got their sheets so white and which wood burns best when it is nailed into the shape of a cross.

    They really do believe that as long as they don’t actually get caught saying the N Word out loud, they aren’t racists.

    And who wouldn’t agree that what Joe Wilson *really* said was: “You lie, boy!

    Let us be clear: they are the Tea Klux Klan.

  16. Clearly it is neither racism nor satire. The teabaggers are simply trying to give him the highest possible compliment that Kenyen tribal leaders can bestow. Witch doctors are the most respected members of their society.

  17. [re=413767]Redhead[/re]: In all seriousness, I really like that idea.

    It’s been forgotten in the Joe Wilson flap, but a couple of days before O’s speech Saxby Chambliss said that the president needed to show some “humility” before Congress. A white Southerner telling a black man he must show humility before a room full of white people is, to my mind, even more loaded with good ol’ racism then Wilson’s shout-out. According to Krauthammer’s logic I’m a liberal scoundrel for even noting Chambliss’s statement but not Chambliss for making said comment.

    Christ I’m sick of the conservatives’ shit.

  18. Witch doctors are the most respected members of their society — It’s the Cato Institute subliminally defining the Right’s agenda:

    We also need to rethink medical licensing laws to encourage greater competition among providers. Nurse practitioners, physician assistants, midwives, and other non-physician practitioners should have far greater ability to treat patients. Doctors and other health professionals should be able to take their licenses from state to state. We should also be encouraging innovations in delivery such as medical clinics in retail outlets.

    Once people start thinking about witch doctors, pretty soon they can start getting treated by witch doctors. It’s all about undercutting the AMA.

    Yeah. That’s it. So, see, it isn’t racist. It’s a laissez faire thing.

  19. [re=413746]smitallica[/re]: Even better – you can’t call someone a racist, but you can call them a liar.

    Talk about ending a rational argument…

  20. Racist? Why no, not at all! Who doesn’t automatically think of a patriarchal condescending white male when the term “witch doctor” is bleated?

    God in fucking hell I am so fucking SICK and TIRED of these fucking racist fucking asshole fuckers. Fuck ’em all to hell.

    On a more positive note, at least the MSM is now acknowledging that perhaps there may be a wee touch of the RACISM involved in all this patriotic teabagging horseshit — an element they have thus far fallen all over themselves to deny. Fuck them too.

  21. “The witch doctor imagery is blatantly racist, critics contend.” Which is CNN-speak for, “Oh, no it isn’t!” Goddam, I hate this kind of “reporting”.

  22. It is racialy tinged satire okay? I mean come on, how can you exect racists to completely leave race out their poster making duties? That’s like asking them to not use the pre printed free posters that asked for something to be buried with Ted Kenedy. It would just be wasting a perfectly good piece of propaganda.

  23. [re=413724]Lionel Hutz Esq.[/re]: But we’re dealing with toxically righteous people who think racism is just a matter of FEELINGS, as though it’s never been institutionalized in this country and has zero relation to a history these same people insist on ignoring.

    What *IS* CNN anyway? It used to be something vaguely journalism-related, I think, but now it’s like the Weekly World News without the humor. I mean, there’s always a requisite story about a dog, always a requisite story about a child abduction, always a requisite story about some crappy popular TV show, always a requisite poll one can’t possibly answer without losing millions of brain cells, always an obsession about the murder-du-jour, and sprinkled here and there little hints of something going on that *might* be significant in some way, but these pieces of lint are swiftly brushed off the next time Octomom opens her mouth. Just numbingly awful.

  24. We’re also forgetting that CNN, the Confederate News Network, is based in Atlanta, whose white-flight suburbs were so capably represented by Newt Gingrich.

  25. [re=413750]jesusbutter[/re]: Keep in mind: WE WON. WE have the upper hand. This is the problem liberals have with authority: We feel vaguely uncomfortable when we have it, as if we somehow don’t really deserve it. That makes us give it away, sheepishly, to the FUCKING FUCKTARDED elements of our culture. Because they’re a crazy gun-totin’ mob and all. That’s understandable. But —

    No no no. Not this time. WE RULE, and these teabagging fucktarded regressive (if they even know what “regressive” means) mouthbreathers will NOT control the national dialogue anymore. Well, until FauxNoise and its minion wannabes get hold of it, and the remaining MSM dinosaurs pick it up and bleat it. Fuck all of ’em. They’re held in slightly less esteem than Congress. This is part of our power, Sheeples!

    These are the worst of times. These are the best of times.

  26. Is this a bifurcation: the opposite of “racist” is “satirical”? Boy, does THAT lead me down a road less-traveled.

    Also, my favorite all time graffito was “What will it be, pea soup or Canada?” Now that is teleology we can live with.

  27. [re=413760]Carl Spakler[/re]: Interestingly, the spouse and I viewed “Idiocracy” again last night. Truly frightening it was, and how much MORE relevant and real it is even now than it was when we first watched it, which was, maybe, last year.

  28. [re=413793]MzNicky[/re]: Bottom line is the asshats who organized the 912 clusterfuck should have told their mindless zombies to leave the dixie flags, witch doctor pics and Kenyan posters at home. The right is completely out of control and basically leaderless. If they let the ilks of Rush & Beck be their leaders they get what they deserve.

  29. [re=413767]Redhead[/re]: Yes, I think this is what’s in order now. An old-skool, peaceful hippie-ish peace-love-dove sit-in on DC in FAVOR of health care reform and Obamamanian policies for crissakes already. To counter the recent unpleasantness that’s hijacked the ugliness displayed by the nation’s village idiots who somehow found their way to the nation’s capital.

    Can someone like organize that thing? I’ll try to make it.

  30. Yeah, CNN, doing both “sides” of the debate, just like Time in their disengenous “Is Glenn Beck Bad for America?”

    “If you get your information from liberal sources, the crowd numbered about 70,000, many of them greedy racists. If you get your information from conservative sources, the crowd was hundreds of thousands strong, perhaps as many as a million, and the tenor was peaceful and patriotic. Either way, you may not be inclined to believe what we say about numbers, according to a recent poll that found record-low levels of public trust of the mainstream media.”

    And why might that be, pray tell?,8599,1924348,00.html

  31. Bumped into a couple of Scots while driving through Mendocino CA few weeks ago, sharing a table over a dinner and some drinks – they said that people over there were getting really pissed off b/c people here were pissing on their health care system and at the same time they felt sorry for US b/c we had nothing and were stupid then they concluded that still the whole thing was hilarious b/c they watched the daily show and the Colbert Report, also. So I asked them where they learned to speak English, the end.

  32. [re=413784]imissopus[/re]: Yes. SAXBY CHAMBLISS (R[etard]-Ignoramistan) telling our Black president to “show some humility.” Gol dang, like our former Pretendizent showed! Like when he yapped about his 1/2 of one percent razor-thin “political capital” and shit! Like struttin’ around in his mahty mahty tubesock-stuffed codpiece on that there ship thang and crowin’ “Mission Accomplished” and shit! Dang boah, git back in yer place or we’s gonna PUT yew thar!

    I can post this sort of thing because I LIVE DOWN HERE AMONGST THESE “PEOPLE.” Yes, I’m very lonely.

  33. [re=413815]MzNicky[/re]: [re=413767]Redhead[/re]: I like it…the “WHAT’S YOU’RE EXCUSE NOW” march…now we just need a painfully appropriate date, like Halloween Day.

    Something mocking, but serious all at the same time.

    Now we just need a major media figure to pimp it shamelessly

  34. [re=413720]chascates[/re]: Unless somebody doesn’t want to bomb Iran right now, because that’s proof that they’re an anti-Semite.

  35. Yeah well, here’s another thing: If we can send a man to the moon and blah blah blah, why can’t we come up with some sort of reliable crowd-number extrapolation thing? I mean, it’s square footage and math and shit, right? And no brainiac out there can come up with anything that can somehow approximate how many people actually attended anything? We are so fucked.

  36. [re=413828]MzNicky[/re]: D.C. Fire Department guy said 60,000-70,000, per ABC. That seems a reasonable high end number (I’ll bet it was less…there was a lot going on besides the astroturfing).

    Less than a Skins game.

  37. I could totally write headlines for CNN:

    Cross burnings: Racist or Great for Roasting Marshmallows?

    Lynchings: Racist or Community Building?

    Blackface: Racist or Fun Fashion Trend?

    Skinheads: Racist or Misunderstood Working Class Heroes?

    I mean, as long as you pose it as a question you can make any stupid argument, right?

  38. [re=413828]MzNicky[/re]: I saw a graph somewhere, which used an overhead of the Mall, in order to pack 1M to an event, you’ve got to go from the Capitol steps to the Washington Phalic..I mean Monument.

    These ass-tards didn’t even make it to 3rd…70K is generous. It’s also encouraging…that’s the best they’ve got, that’s it. These guys make the WTO crowd look like pros from dover.

  39. [re=413822]Carl Spakler[/re]: Olbermann? Curiously, he and Rachel Maddow are about all we’ve got. WHY IS THIS? We must gain MSM coverage, distastefully. That seems to be key.

  40. From my beloved Dmitry Orlov: Caution, White People

    “I happened to be in Washington, DC last weekend, and on the way to and from the National Gallery I had the opportunity to observe the March on Washington, which was in full swing. Once upon a time I had joined demonstrations, not out of some misplaced idealism, but to pick up women (I was still single at the time). The demonstrations were always full of pretty, high-spirited young women, and the context of marching and chanting slogans together rendered them approachable. And so my first question concerning the crowd marching around the Mall last weekend was, ‘Where are all the pretty young women?’ There weren’t any! Surprised, I observed some more. What I saw only deepened my consternation. Not only were there no pretty women to be seen, but the crowd included exactly zero blacks, Latinos or Asians. I don’t believe I have ever before seen so many middle-aged, obese, shabbily dressed, melanin-challenged individuals gathered in one place!” …

  41. “Posters portraying President Obama as a witch doctor may be racist, organizers of Tea Party protests say, but they reflect the anger of racists.”

    There, fixed it for you.

  42. [re=413814]shadowMark[/re]: Much as I admire William Gibson, I was pleased to see this on that “Top 100” list:

    55. Having placed in my mouth sufficient bread for three minutes’ chewing, I withdrew my powers of sensual perception and retired into the privacy of my mind, my eyes and face assuming a vacant and preoccupied expression. – Flann O’Brien, At Swim-Two-Birds (1939)

    Possibly, one of the funniest books ever written. Particularly if you have any Irish blood. Or were ever drunk. Same thing, really.

  43. Worshipper of (and former aide to) Strom Thurmond, who he hailed as his personal hero. Happy to spit invective about how inappropriate it was for Thurmond’s mixed-race illegitimate child to come forward and claim her parentage. This is after he basically said she was lying. Republican of South Carolina.

    Racist or feisty?

  44. [re=413843]Carl Spakler[/re]: I think, if the message is to reach its intended audience, it will need a MUCH more obvious day. Or hell, are there any holidays in the confederacy/KKK? Cause you know these fuckers would know all THOSE days.

  45. [re=413837]NYNYNY[/re]: [re=413835]Cicada[/re]: Indeed, Cicada is right…there’s nothing you can’t apply this to…almost like an old southern bell putting the word ‘darlin’ at the end of a sentence (e.g. ‘The Jawja Bhuldwag are really a bunch of cocksucker…darlin’)

    Rush Limbaugh…Racist or Obese Drug-Addled Child Molester?

    Ann Coulter…Racist or Male?

    Michelle Malkin…Racist or Mother of Illegal Immigrants?

    Yes, indeed yes this is fun…

  46. Speaking as a professional satiracist, I can state with informed, unequivocal certainty that, in posting that question, CNN was just being totally fucking retarded.

  47. Oh and by the way, is anyone else watching “Parks and Recreation” right now? the family blah blah blah blah blah whatever spokeswoman is starting to remind me of a teabagging. Except skinny. (It is Hollywood, afterall)

  48. [re=413846]Redhead[/re]: Matter of fact, MLK Day is also a state holiday in some Southern states honoring Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson. In Virginia I used to hear it referred to as Lee-Jackson-King day.

    Too far away, though. We need something much sooner than next January.

    [re=413840]MzNicky[/re]: Too many variables. If you could posit using an average-size human, sure, but so many people last Saturday were a bunch of obese fatties scooting around on motorized carts, how do you calculate how much space each takes up?

    Of course I always sucked at math, so maybe I’m not the best person to talk about this.

  49. How about a Washington Times editorial cartoon of Obama, dressed as a witch doctor, fucking a white woman, doggy-style. Of course, the “Obama” character would have an obscenely large, black penis. The white woman would be labeled “American taxpayers”. Would that be acceptable political comment? Not racist, I guess?

  50. [re=413862]magic titty[/re]: CNN: tired, bored, or just trying to position itself to syphon off some of that FauxSnooze ratings and ad moolah from teh morans?

  51. [re=413811]MzNicky[/re]: [re=413814]shadowMark[/re]: Right on both accounts. SnowCrash is way more relevant today than when it was written.
    Especially the part about how the USAmerica privatized and deregulated itself out of existence.

  52. I love how Min comes in in typical fashion earlier in the thread dealing with obvious racist and offers up a kind of weasely and tacit “they kind of have a point” comment. Give it a rest. I’m really starting to get suspicious of why you’re trying to find nuance where there is none.

    Nelson Mandela: Nobel Prize-winning South African Hero or Dastardly Xhosa Terrorist?

    Kirstie Alley: Fat of Metabolically Challenged?

    Seriously, one of my greatest pet peeves of today’s ‘progressives’ and much of the progressive media is the offering of undue deference to known evil because they feel they have to, because, somehow, searching for a happy middle, searching for a center, is more important than searching for the truth. What happens in this near-religious pilgrimage to find the ‘center’ of an issue is that the truth almost always becomes a casualty because the truth is very rarely ever found in the center, contrary to popular believe.

    Let me just put it this way, when you deny obvious racism to try and make the other side feel better, you only end up hurting those who’s only defense against racism is the truth of its existence. To make it even more personal, every time Obama and liberals deny these things, they end up hurting black people like myself just trying to live a day at a time. It’s hard enough for people to be human without also having to shoulder the burden of racism.

    Sorry for the snarklessness.

  53. [re=413844]Neilist[/re]: I was disappointed not to see this simple yet haunting opening line from a true modern Epic.

    “The man in black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed.” – Stephen King, The Gunslinger (Dark Tower I)

  54. A few short years ago, CNN was 24/7 on how us Americans should band together and kill the Dixie Chicks for saying something vaguely bad about President W while singing songs in jolly ol’ England and now has those same type of Dixie Chick-haters in their teevee studio 24/7 screaming how bad the President O is.

    Does this really “sell” their airtime to potential commercial buyers?

  55. [re=413865]InKnockYouUs[/re]: Yes, water is wet, and in still further news, the NYT says:

    “Private insurance companies were pleased with the lack of a public option in a new health care proposal.”

  56. President Obama, who was elected last November in a landslide victory (to learn how elections work -click here-), and is possibly a Kenyan National (to learn where Kenya is -click here-), had no immediate response, other than that he was sincerely grateful to receive our email and was proud that his constituents cared enough to take the time to write him (to learn how to email your elected representatives -click here-).

  57. Using a montage of monkeys to make an image of the face of a wealthy, white Yale alumnus, son of a wealthy, white, Yale alumnus, grandson of a wealthy, white Yale alumnus, and great-grandson of a wealthy, white Yale alumnus is not even close to as racist as depicting a Black man as a witch doctor or a member of a Jim Crow era Minstrel Show, no it is not.

  58. CNN is preparing us for the day, not far in the future, when the N word will be common currency and no major media outlet will feel the need to respect a president of color. Anything not originating from the further reaches of the far right lacks legitimacy. CNN will save this country for white people.

  59. the original piece was titled “calling obama a nigger: racism or policy critique?”
    the author concluded that calling him a nigger is not racist, if you do it out of anger.

    somehow that version didn’t make it past the editor.

  60. “Posters portraying President Obama as a witch doctor may be racist, intellectually dishonest, and generally demeaning to the human spirit, but they reflect blind, reflexive hatred of Obama so it’s all good with us.”

    Alternate fix.

  61. I’m ready to just.give.up. Some chickenshit fucktard is papering my area with ObamaJokerSocialist posters – under cover of darkness of course. One day they were taped up all over a Starbucks and it’s immediate vicinity. Then the local library parking lot, then another strip mall. Today one of those big land-use signs at a busy intersection has a 4 x 5 version plastered on it (GLUED so I can’t remove it). Fucking lovely.


  62. I thought it was his mother-in-law who was the witchdoctor? Anyway, he should have her cast spells on his enemies. Or ask her to ask her witchdoctor to do so. Papa Doc Duvalier claimed to have killed Jack Kennedy with voodoo. Sending the right-wing punditocracy and the 30 leading televangelists to their rewards would be a good thing.

  63. I really don’t know where senile old Jimmy Carter is getting this “racism” stuff. It’s SO obvious that NO white racists are left in the Southland. The “new” Klan is all about prayer in schools, 2nd Amendment, and such; it says so right there in the newspaper ads for their meetings. He’d know this if he looked at a newspaper once in a while. Sheesh! Not only has he apparently gone gaga, but I guess he can’t read either.

  64. [re=413854]imissopus[/re], [re=413840]MzNicky[/re]: Currently, there exist Machine Vision algorithms that may be capable of analyzing the video and producing a number (see , for example). An overhead video of a crowd will contain certain features that tessellate or repeat (such as the outline of the head, shadows between individuals, etc.) that provide edges for detection, and that are independent of the obesity of the members of the crowd.

    P.S. did you guys see Chuck Toad sneeze on Sibelius?

  65. [re=413978]zhubajie[/re]: Really. You’d think if he was such a voodoo master, he’d just cast a spell to make all the teabaggers go along with Obamacare. He’s pretty much failing at that.

  66. [re=413798]AnnieGetYourFun[/re]: No, too complex a concept for that group. This a.m. Crazy Ol’ Uncle Pat was denyin’, denyin’, denyin’ that ANYBODY who’s concerned about the healthcare plan could possibly have racist motivations.

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