Ha ha, we love it when situations call for WALNUTS! to become the voice of reason. Here is the exact question that this old lady, let’s call her “Medicare & Social Security Teat-Suckler #1,” poses to the Man Who Would Be President: “I would like to know how the president is getting by with all of this… money… it’s against the Constitution. Doesn’t he know that we still live under a Constitution?” [WILD APPLAUSE ERUPTS AFTER THIS DISASTROUS NONSENSE] Walnuts responds that, yes, he does know this [AUDIENCE: SMUG LAUGHTER] and even dares say that Obama respects the Constitution. The audience does not care for this sentiment. [YouTube]

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  1. Ooh! I have an idea! Let’s take away the Medicare AND Social Security benefit of every old fart wingnut who publicly speaks against government health care. Thankfully, they’ll be dead soon.

  2. John McCain should limit his pronouncements to screaming gibberish and making strange grunting noises. His target audience will understand perfectly.

  3. Foreign-born WALNUTS! was obviously a plant. Do you know how easy it would be for some Madrasa-loving Ay-rabs to give birth to him, several centuries ago, ship him off to the Middle East, to a country called “Panama”, and build a military base there, then say he was born on it? Leave America to the Americans, WALNUTS!

  4. I had to do a double take when I saw this thing on live TV. It was held in a church, with a cross up on the front wall, and everytime someone would stand up and say how dare we give medical treatment to illegal aliens they would get a standing ovation. Just surreal.

  5. Is it stupid of me to ask what they thought he was doing as a Constitutional professor all those years? Trying to come up with ways to undo it?? Yeah, that must be it….

  6. McCain actually said one other thing I kinda admired. At one point some heckler started screaming something and McCain said “we don’t shout at my townhall meetings.” But then, he started kissing some old hag’s ass for claiming that Obama was killing the country.

    Admire, loathe. Repeat.

  7. Wasn’t August supposed to be vacay month? Too much news while I’m trying to ride my Schwinn around the Vineyard. I thought Johnny W.’d been tried by a death panel and found to be already dead but it turns out the death panel was just staging a mock execution or drilling on his big cheek or something.

  8. [re=394668]The Station Manager[/re]: LET ME SEE YOUR LONG FORM OLD MAN. Though at this point, they have a better chance of seeing his death certificate.

  9. McCain mind reader: “Sarah Palin I’m going to kick your ass. Sarah Palin I’m going to kick your ass. Whoever put you in the national spotlight deserves to have his fingernails pulled out by the roots — oh, shit.”

  10. Would someone please explain what “it’s against the Constitution” means? No Child Left Behind only started 9 years ago. What’s these idiots’ excuse?

  11. Last night I was reading David Foster Wallace’s old Rolling Stone essay from 2000 when he spent a week with the McCain campaign in South Carolina and refers to WALNUTS! as being from “one of the most politically troglodytic states” in America. It does not seem to have improved with age.

    Speaking of which, isn’t age supposed to bring wisdom? I’ve apparently been lied to about that as well.

    And R.I.P. DFW, we could use some of your pithiness now.

  12. Too bad he didn’t add: “And torture is completely immoral” Cuz he’d deserve to eat the booing from that just for foisting bible spice on the country.

  13. Well that’s about the most decent thing John McCain has done since his 5 1/2 years. But it must be a special feeling, knowing his major role in having spurred on this national rabid bigot mob to become what it is today.

  14. This is the same bullshit move he pulled with the crazy Palinites. Don’t smack her down for her crazy, John. Just repeat that Obama’s not a bad guy, and really, who’s the boss around here anyway? Someone make Daddy a sammich.

    You guys made these monsters, McCain. Stop being a pussy and deal with them.

  15. One other thing, McCain was booed and hissed when he defended his position on closing Guantanamo. But he stood his ground. And, once again, I couldn’t believe a church packed to the rafters was cheering for brutal inhumane imprisonment of fellow human beings.

    Roscoe is now finished with giving Walnuts the love.

  16. “I would like to know how the president is getting by with all of this money, ahh, it’s against the constitution doesn’t he know we still live in a under a constitution?”


  17. [re=394663]ManchurianCandidate[/re]: You’ve never been to Sun City. Those fuckers never die, they just get extra batteries for their golf carts to run their respirators.

  18. [re=394676]RoscoePColtraine[/re]: After a mysterious two-year hiatus, Sen. John McCain’s scrotum reappeared, briefly, at an Arizona town hall meeting today, long enough for the senator to defend President Barack Obama, surprising McCain, the country, and alarming the senator’s wife, Cindy. Much to Mrs. McCain’s relief, the long-missing scrotum beat a hasty retreat once the Arizona senator was challenged on his defense of Mr. Obama by irrational old people. The end.

  19. [re=394687]imissopus[/re]: Don’t sell us Arizonan’s short.
    All of our crazy olds come from other states.
    Us natives look at them as if they’re illegal immigrants.
    What with their RV’s, being completely blind and voting Republican.

  20. The video cut off before that lady’s son got a chance to speak. As a service to Wonkette, I’ll transcribe it: “Everything is different, but the same… things are more moderner than before… bigger, and yet smaller… it’s computers… San Dimas High School football rules!”

  21. [re=394700]RoscoePColtraine[/re]: Quite a few of these assholes think of Jesus as a “great American”. Their churches feed their prejudices and compound their ignorance. Actual christianity is as foreign to them as logic or reason. I’m afraid the only solution is Death Panels, followed as quickly as possible by the woodchipper.

  22. Define “Irony”: you can actually blame the Messicans in my state for giving it to the Repugs. Since the overwhelming majority of them dern brownies are Catlicks, the Church often “advises” its sheeple on how to vote.
    And since the Repugs are anti-abortion, the Messicans are tricked into voting for them. Thus, they sleep well at night; knowing that unborn babies are safe and sound, while their cousin Manuel is being beaten, shot and buried in the desert by the border patrol.

  23. This old bitch… I swear to the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Your preznit is a constitutional law professor. He’s forgotten more about teh constitushions than all you old sinky farts combined ever knew. Now, run off to Luby’s. It’s meatloaf night.

  24. After my medical-bill bankruptcy and eviction, I too lived under a Constitution, but it always leaked in heavy rain. Maybe I should try again in arid Arizona.

  25. Seriously, imagine what goes on in McCain’s brain standing in front of all those blithering Lizard People.
    When he says, “my friends” to them, do ciruuits fry in his brain? They really are your friends, John.
    How did you get to this point, John? Wouldn’t it be better to just drive a beer truck?

  26. [re=394709]bfstevie[/re]: Oh I thought that was just swell, too. Nothing too offensive about calling an entire profession “scum sucking bottom feeders.” I dont’ remember booking this trip to Crazyville!!!1!

  27. [re=394686]hobospacejunkie[/re]: I can’t tell what they’re referring to, either. My only guess is that since we libtards have been claiming things are unconstitutional for a while (torture, wars without declarations, signing statements, warrantless wiretapping) it’s their turn now. I’m guessing that they think “unconstitutional” means “stuff that I don’t like,” and don’t realize that the constitution actually prohibits the list above (#8, Article I/II, ibid, #4).

  28. Aide: “Um, not being a lying dickhead isn’t technically in the townhall playbook, sir.”
    McCain: “Cunts! I knew I fucked that one up. I’m tired. Where do I live again?”

  29. Would it not be excellent if the first townhall human sacrifice was one of their own? Now that fasting is a marching order, expect even less civility.

  30. [re=394736]Internally valid[/re]: [re=394686]hobospacejunkie[/re]: “Against the Constitution” is like “unlegal,” only different.

  31. God, McCain. You should know better than to try to be mature and respectful. That shit doesn’t fly with your little friends there. They’d rather you rage about Obama being a Martian prince hatched from an egg until you end up being carried out on a stretcher with spittle flying everywhere.

  32. [re=394677]Min[/re]: I think you mean 12 amendments. The thirteenth will be a shock to her if anyone can ever get it into her addled head.

  33. [re=394714]x111e7thst[/re]: I’m afraid the only solution is Death Panels, followed as quickly as possible by the woodchipper.

    Have I got a great idea for the background of a Sarah Palin news conference!

  34. i live in europe where health care is for all. public option indeed. if any politico wanted to abolish the state med.program, he’d soon be looking for a new job.
    the reason we have it, and those dumb americans don’t — nobody talks about jeebus at election time. the campaigns are all about wallet issues, and rationally discussed.
    yes, americans are stupid and therefore don’t deserve to have health care. ignorance breeds bad health.
    -a native of DC who chose exile in europe.

  35. Can they start these town halls off with some Schoolhouse Rock videos? I think a sing-a-long of “I’m Just a Bill” with an encore of “Three Ring Government” is in order.

  36. [re=394798]eclecticbrotha[/re]: Naughty, naughty, you. Don’t play with my hopes that way.

    The olds qualify for free Pig Aids shots under Marxist-Socialist Medicare. The shots will be given in conjunction with Meals-on-Wheel and Hover-Round demontrations. Bingo, also.

    While receiving the shots, the olds will be allowed to bitch loudly to the nurse about the Public Option. And their worthless daughter-in-law, that whore.

  37. All four nose breathers applauded….HURRAY…

    Who DO these mouth breathers listen too? Apparently not their congressmen,
    seriously…besides some rogue Conservatives (aka Michelle Bachmanns) I don’t get it.
    But I live in the elitist intellectual suburbs of the Northeast…ao go figure, I’m out of the loop.

  38. Yes, bad diet, degenerating cognitive function of course. But the ideas being fed and stewing in these brains? Compliments of the Sludge-maker. Don’t know the validity of the data considering the source, but to make a point nonetheless:

    MONDAY, AUG. 24, 2009

    FOXNEWS O’REILLY 3,440,000
    FOXNEWS HANNITY 2,937,000
    FOXNEWS BECK 2,810,000
    FOXNEWS GRETA 2,450,000
    FOXNEWS BAIER 2,066,000
    FOXNEWS SHEP 1,860,000
    MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,114,000
    CNN KING 1,063,000
    MSNBC MADDOW 885,000
    CNN COOPER 827,000
    MSNBC HARDBALL 640,000

  39. [re=394854]DoctorCulturae[/re]: Out of all the wingtards, I hate Hannity the most. I would not object to his sudden loss of all communication faculties.
    I don’t understand why he’s so popular.

  40. [re=394736]Internally valid[/re]: Thanks for that. Source citation should probably be required for referencing any fact thrown up on the internets. Why, back in my day I had to walk five miles each way through the snow to the library to learn how to put together footnotes and endnotes.

  41. [re=394854]DoctorCulturae[/re]: “FOXNEWS BECK 2,810,000”

    Really? Really?! There are that many dead-eyed motherfuckers out there watching this overgrown infant fartsack babble and sob every day? Jesus fuck, I need a drink.

  42. [re=394854]DoctorCulturae[/re]: [re=394868]The Station Manager[/re]:

    I didn’t know that many dumb ass Americans had the disposable income to afford cable.

    Are there really that many convalescence homes and mental institutions?

  43. [re=394878]problemwithcaring[/re]: “Are there really that many convalescence homes and mental institutions?”
    In Maricopa County- better beleive it!

    Nothing wrong with Arizona that won’t be fixed when the government stops supporting the socialist power monopoly that keeps Phoenix residents from free market electric rates. That and restoring the second amendment rights of the Apaches, who can certainly put together a very well-organized militia

  44. [re=394891]kewlguy42069[/re]: She’s saying that spending money on health care is unconstitutional. Someone needs to make these people actually read the constitution before they open their mouths and then make them explain what article, clause, or amendment they are talking about. On second thought, there have been polls done showing that if we put the Bill of Rights to a vote today, it would go down in flames, so maybe it’s better to keep the actual constitution away from them so they don’t add an “Everybody Suck Jesus’s Dick” amendment.

  45. McCain is a class act – you wouldn’t hear him make fun or retarded people on national tv (Barry and his bowling score remark) but if you think its okay to kill the unborn and ensure you bankrupt the health care system so seniors and the mentally ill/challenged are rationed services through a “quality years” calculation then whats on offhand remark about “retarded people”?

  46. [re=394936]on2u[/re]: OOOHHHH some people are going to comment on that!

    But I’ll point out that, just like Social Security, it’s not young healthy people who are bankrupting the system. It’s people who have medical problems who bankrupt the Health care System. Insurance companies would love it if no one ever filed a claim.
    Having a more efficient system, holding insurance companies and the medical comunity responsible for escalating costs, along with working with people who want insurance is better than our headlong dash towards things getting worse.

  47. [re=394936]on2u[/re]: Your services are already rationed, dearie. They’re either rationed by a private bureaucrat (instead of those awful government bureaucrats) or else they’re rationed by your ability to pay for them. Healthcare reform — and especially a public option — will give healthcare to more people, because the people it’s going to help are the ones who don’t get any unless they pay for it out of their own pockets.

    Right now 15,000 Americans die every year because they can’t get or can’t afford the healthcare they need. Feel free to explain to me how extending healthcare to people who don’t have it is going to increase that number. Take your time — I’ll be back here in a little bit to check on your progress.

  48. Sayitwithwookies: Do you really believe you can hold the government accountable for costs – given the 9 trillion dollar deficit? The problem is 15,000 Americans will be a pittance compared to what the numbers will be if this is passed, but it will just be old people who use up all the social security anyway, plus that inheritance tax will come in handy for the government. The “Micheal Moore documentary” was a complete fabrication of facts regarding the health care systems in other countries. Most people are citing him of all people as the expert – what a crock. Talk to some people in Canada, France or the UK. Yes – there are problems that need addressing, but what is being proposed is not the way to go. Why not just open more persons to be covered through Medicaid? Simplier…does not require a whole system change. Oregon is not to happy with their system. What will happen is the doctors will leave there will be no new Doctors due to the high cost of a medical education.

    So you realize that the science Czar – John Holdren – will have much to say regarding the “ethics” involved in the new health care system? He co-wrote a book with Paul Ehrlich – the author of the “population Bomb” if you do not know what his book was about I suggest you check out the links below. Here is just one quote from his book: “We must have population control at home, hopefully through changes in our value system, but by compulsion if voluntary methods fail.” – XI
    According to Ehrlich the first step to worldwide population control is the control of the American population because:

    “We want our propaganda based on “do as we do” – not “do as we say.” “ – 130
    A truly commendable ethical stand indeed.

    “So the first task is population control at home. How do we go about it? Many of my colleagues feel that some sort of compulsory birth regulation would be necessary to achieve such control. One plan often mentioned involved the addition of temporary sterilants to water supplies or staple food. Doses of the antidote would be carefully rationed by the government to produce the desired population size.” 130

    Also – Obama is the one who coined the term Czars – how weird and bizarre is that.

  49. [re=394936]on2u[/re]: That McCain sure is one class act. He never misses a Miss Buffalo Chip contest if there’s a chance of being photographed in front of a large crowd of people and then pretending they came to see him.

  50. More from Paul Elrich “Population Bomb” who co-authored a book in 77′ with science Czar John Holden:
    “For completeness I will include, below, Ehrlich’s description as to why such a population control method would not work. Please note that his reasoning is purely technical, with no ethical or moral objection to this method. Continuing:

    “Those of you appalled at such a suggestion can rest easy. The option isn’t even open to us, since no such substance exists. If the choice now is either such additive or catastrophe, we shall have catastrophe. It might be possible to develop such population control tools, although the task would not be simple. Either the additive would have to operate equally well and with minimum side effects against both sexes, or some way would have to be found to direct it only to one sex and shield the other. Feeding potent male hormones to the whole population might sterilize and defeminize the women, while the upset in the male population and society as a whole can be well imagined. In addition, care would have to be taken to see to it that the sterilizing substance did not reach livestock, either through water or garbage.
    Technical problems aside, I suspect you’ll agree with me that society would probably dissolve before sterilants were added to the water supply by the government. Just consider the fluoridation controversy! Some other way will have to be found.” – 130
    Some More Subtle Methods

    Financial coercion is also an effective method to reduce the population. Ehrlich recommends changes to the income tax laws to encourage small families. But his creativity goes beyond just simple income tax.

    “On top of the income tax change, luxury taxes could be placed on layettes, cribs, diapers, diaper services, expensive toys, always with the proviso that the essentials be available without penalty to the poor. There would, of course, have to be considerable experimenting on the level of financial pressure necessary to achieve the population goals. To the penalties could be added some incentives. A governmental “first marriage grant” could be awarded each couple in which the age of both partners was 25 or more. “Responsibility prizes” could be given to each couple for each five years of childless marriage, or to each man who accepted irreversible sterilization (vasectomy) before having more than two children. Or special lotteries might be held – tickets going only to the childless. Adoption could be subsidized and made a simple procedure. Considering the savings in school buildings, pollution control, unemployment compensation, and the like, these grants would be a money-making proposition. But even if they weren’t, the price would be a small one to pay for saving our nation.” – 132
    “In short, the plush life would be difficult to attain for those with large families – which is as it should be, since they are getting their pleasure from their children, who are being supported in part by more responsible members of society.” – 131

    Ehrlich makes his views on the use of abortion to help control the population crystal clear.

    “[Japan’s] dramatic halving of the birth rate was achieved originally through the sanctioning of abortion. Abortion is highly effective weapon in the armory of population control. It is condemned by many family planning groups, which are notorious for pussyfooting about methodology, despite beginning 60 years ago as revolutionary social pioneers.” – 84
    “One of the more encouraging signs of progress has been the change in abortion laws [in the US].” – 89
    “Biologists must promote understanding of the facts of reproductive biology which relate to matters of abortion and contraception. They must do more than simply reiterate the facts of population dynamics. They must point out the biological absurdity of equating a zygote (the cell created by joining of sperm and egg) or fetus (unborn child) with a human being. As Professor Garrett Hardin of the University of California pointed out, that is like confusing a set of blueprints with a building. People are people because of the interaction of genetic information (stored in a chemical language) with an environment. Clearly, the most “humanizing” element of that environment is the cultural element to which the child is not exposed until after birth. When conception is prevented or a fetus destroyed, the potential for another human being is lost, but that is all. That potential is lost regardless of the reason that conception does not occur – there is no biological difference if the egg is not fertilized because of timing or because of mechanical or other interference.
    Biologists must point out that contraception is for many reasons more desirable than abortion. But they must also point out that in many cases abortion is more desirable than childbirth. Above all, biologists must take the side of the hungry billions of living human beings today and tomorrow, not the side of potential human beings. Remember, unless, their numbers are limited, if those potential human beings are born, they will at best lead miserable lives and die young. We can not permit the destruction of humanity to be abetted by a doctrine conceived in total ignorance of the biological facts of life. [emphasis in original] ”

  51. [re=394980]on2u[/re]: Wow — umpteen paragraphs of cutting and pasting and you never came close to answering the question.

    Guess what — I don’t give a rat’s ass what Paul Ehrlich has to say about population control. Anybody who thinks population control in the United States is a problem is not paying attention.

    Now back to the original question. Here is an interesting comparison of healthcare bang for the buck among the United States, Britain, France and Singapore. Of the four, guess which one a) spends the most on healthcare per capita; b) has the lowest life expectancy; and c) has the highest infant mortality rate.

    Now enjoy your stupid-ass status quo while you wave your little “No 2 Death Pannils!” placard around.

  52. [re=394975]on2u[/re]: Thank you for posting so many eminently reasonable aarguments for population control. I am, of course, still awaiting my “7+ years of marriage without spawn” bonus. Perhaps you could put in a word for me?

    (oh, and banhammer? I hear it is a highly effective method of post-birth control)

  53. One senses McCain’s eagerness to die and never, ever have to make eye contact with the slobs that insist on aligning themselves with his party, ever again.

  54. Our present pay-or-die healthcare system is just, oh just so… “American” (you know?).
    It kind of give me patriotic goose bumps to think of all those poors dying to keep us all from “socialistic medicalism” (or whatever).

  55. I’m not surprised you missed the point. Holden will be deciding ethical matters in the new health care system and those are the values he has. But the big picture is hard for people with small minds to grasp. I did not say Health Care is good the way it is. I said expand medicaid. If you think everyone will be receiving the same high level of health care – just minus private insurance companies interference you are in for a surprise.

  56. It won’t download tonight because the webtubes, I assume, are clogged with teabaggers debating whether hand grenades would be a flashier way to show off their second amendment rights at Democratic health reform rallies.

    Walnuts dug his own grave, so to speak. He pandered to the extremists in his party and tried to foist Bible Spice on us, but never really jumped on board the crazy wagon completely. Once every couple of months, sanity and decency catches up to him and he pays for it. The way his people make Democrats pay every fucking day for not being crazy.

  57. [re=395000]on2u[/re]: You don’t know the difference between the deficit and the national debt; and you didn’t even get the national debt figure right; you don’t seem to know how or why it’s relevant; you think government healthcare will lead to forced population control; and yet you still advocate for expanding Medicaid as though that wouldn’t have the same imaginary problems you bring up previously. Then you post a thousand words of irrelevant paranoid ranting and insinuate that anybody who disagrees with you is an idiot. Why don’t you give me your owners’ email address and I’ll ask them to leave a Kong around the house for you to play with while they’re out, okay?

  58. [re=394980]on2u[/re]: Paul Erlich’s main claim to fame is his ability to make spectacularly flawed projections. If half the things he predicted in 1970 had happened we’d all be dead 100 times over.

  59. [re=395000]on2u[/re]: Ahem…Holdren wrote that article you refer to in 1969. I’m betting his theoretical models have changed since then.

    And a scientist who is concerned that the human population is growing at a rate unsustainable with regard to our finite natural resources? Maybe up there in that underpopulated wasteland of ball-retracting cold it seems that way, but down here in the crowded southwest of the United States, believe me it’s a viable scenario.

    Stick to fapping to Ron Paul’s website, twatwaffle. You are of no use to us here.

  60. True imissopus – he republished the book in 1995, he still maintains these views though (Ehrlich). There are radicals on every side. I researched world hunger during my university years. There is more than enough food to feed everyone. The problem is distribution. Killing people or limiting population is not the answer.

  61. [re=395006]SayItWithWookies[/re]: They learn this thermonuclear pasting shit at Liberty U. (or Bob Jones, Regents, wherever).

    They drop a zoo’s worth of shit on the conversation, claim that it proves one plus one equal death panels, and back out of the room when threatened with the woodchipper of logic.

    Our newest little friend is just another clipboard troll.

  62. the problem child says at 10:59 pm, August 25th, 2009 – Replyon2u: Thank you for posting so many eminently reasonable arguments for population control. I am, of course, still awaiting my “7+ years of marriage without spawn” bonus. Perhaps you could put in a word for me?

    Good one – funny.

    I did not mean to insult anyone – given the small minds comment was not nice – put certainly pale in comparison to many others on this blog.

  63. [re=394677]Min[/re]: The last time that bag o’ Medicare–or any of these other fucking idiots–read the Constitution was never. If she ever had, she’d know that the 57th Amendment clearly provides that “[t]he President shall, in time of peace or war, get by with all of this money, without the knowledge or comprehension thereof of The People.”

  64. Suddenly these fucktards care about the deficit, the constitution, and end of life care.
    Were they, like David Frum, biting the pillow every night while being fucked raw by their GWB blow up doll?

    More death panels, less gibberty-jabber.

  65. Single payer.
    Non-profit, universal health care coverage for all Americans.
    On the table NOW.

    Washington whorehouse!!!

    ~ Anderson Baldwin Carter Choate Clemente Gonzalez Gravel Kaptur Kucinich McKinney Nader Paul Perot Sheehan Ventura.

  66. That’s pretty maverick for AZ.
    In Sun City Lakes East and West, the developments are constructed in big circles, perhaps to confront Alzheimer’s head on.

  67. I have a great idea: a constitutional Amendment that says if you go to a town hall and say it is unconstitutional to provide Americans with health care, you have to cite the provision in the Constitution that supports your statement or you’re immediately killed and your body havested for organs. Best part is you can’t say that’s unconstitutional! Two birds with one stone!

  68. [re=394798]eclecticbrotha[/re]: Uh-uh! Pig Death will mainly affect the youngs. Apparently the olds are carrying antibodies from some previous visitation. Too bad. And I say that as an old.

  69. Well of course Obama “respects” the Constitution. I mean, how many of us here haven’t pretended to respect someone just long enough to sleep with them?

  70. Where was this John McCain last year? Oh yeah, he was recovering from being driven and backed up over a few times by Campaign McCain. I don’t think he’ll ever fully recover, though.

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