Trig will live after all! Suck a beanpole, Obama, because the Senate Finance Committee will apparently strip from its terrible hell-bill the provision to reimburse Medicare doctors who provide end-of-life counseling sessions. Chuck Grassley is the force behind this stripping, because holy shit, he had no idea that Obama was planning on killing him (“grandma”) with this provision! Which he was! The Senate Finance Committee health care bill will soon just be a massive tax cut for Wall Street investment banks and Montgomery Burns. [TPM]

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  1. No wonder you guys don’t have any nice things. Perhaps citizenship should be based on cognition and intelligence. Sorry, if you don’t have either… Buh-bye!

  2. I think Senate Dems have some sort of weird Stockholm Syndrome that makes them keep bending over for the republicans. PSST….YOU GUYS ARE IN THE FUCKING MAJORITY! act like it please.

    Also, let the fucking doctors do the counseling sessions without medicare reimbursement. They helped push this shit. Let them choke on it.

  3. So now Granny will have to get her death tips from some back alley counselor who will show her how to end it all with household bleach and a coat

  4. OK, then I guess from this point on no one else ever dies, we just hook them up to artificial machines and replace any malfuncting organs with mechanical ones. “Remember the Schivo”.

  5. At least thanks to this apparantly craven, spineless and dim-witted concession, town halls will return to civility, the Repubs will drop their opposition to the public option and America will unite behind its new President.

  6. But…without Death Panels, how will we ever get rid of Wilford Brimley? I can’t watch another one of his commercials. I JUST CAN’T!

  7. Congrats too in being able to get a provision taken out of some sort of bill by screaming really loudly all sorts of ridiculously wrong things about it. And congratulations to the press who once again were unable to do their job and tell people that something was ridiculously wrong. And, finally, congrats to the American Public for believing all sorts of ridiculously wrong things despite the fact they were patently fucking absurd.

    Bravo, everyone, bravo.

  8. [re=385622]Hooray For Anything[/re]: I guess you will ‘hooray for anything’, but this makes me so damn mad.

    Imagine, Sarah Palin WON.

    uck, I am so holy shit, I am mad.

  9. talk is cheap. now, if it’s not free, too fucking bad. we all die alone anyway, what is there to talk about? all anyone needs is a bottle of rye and a long walk into the cold night. if they’re too far gone to walk, just set ’em out back and let ’em be. nothing to talk about. no sense wasting those precious medical tax dollars.

  10. In the Finance Committee, at least, we now have government of, by, and for the hysterical wingnuts. I don’t think this process will end well.

  11. [re=385630]Naked Bunny with a Whip[/re]: Thank God I live in a country run by moranic, pants-shitting cowards. Thank you, Republicans and Democrats!

    (you had a typo, my favorite bunny)

  12. Big deal, the death panels will simply be put back into the conference committee report, along with the gaybortions and forced gay marriages. And FEMA re-education camps. I almost forgot the FEMA camps. But maybe I’m saying too much?

  13. So does that mean daddy cannot wheel granny into the death chamber and collect his inheritance. He said if the death panel went through we would bury granny in Disney land.

  14. Yay! We shouldn’t be educating people about things like hospice vs. in-home care and living wills, anyway. Fear and confusion are the appropriate emotions to feel when dying. Peace of mind is for pussies.


  15. I had to pay for my living will- and it was a lawyer, not a doctor, who did it . Most of the town hall screamers are going to drop dead at 43 from a heart attack or stroke, get shot by a drunk cousin or get burnt up by their own meth labs.

  16. [re=385624]trickyrick[/re]: That’s the kicker to the whole thing, that the “Death Panel” idea started with Sarah Palin posting it on her Facebook page (!) and now it’s become the big meme out there, meaning Sarah Palin can now go out and say she helped kill healthcare, or at least major parts of it, which will give her more credibility in the eyes of the wingnuts which means there’s even less chance that she’ll go away. The whole thing is just a lose, lose, lose, lose, lose, lose and lose for the rest of us.

  17. Well, fantastic. I think I can imagine the Republican party’s ads for 2010/2012: “Hey, America – you love your grandma, right? Enjoy seeing her? Well, you have heroes like Senator Grassley to thank for her being alive, because Republicans STOPPED THE EVIL OBAMA SOCIALISTIC DEATH PANELS.”

  18. [re=385666]finallyhappy[/re]: Sadly, no. Thanks to their not-at-all-government-run Medicare, VA, disability and/or Social Security benefits, they will live long enough to bankrupt all the above programs before my cohort gets to retirement age. And annoy the living shit out of us as they drive slow in the fast lane and block the grocery store aisles on their rascals in the process.

  19. [re=385611]Gopherit[/re]:
    “YOU GUYS ARE IN THE FUCKING MAJORITY! act like it please.”
    Thank you! (See my rant last night about Assley & the whole lot of them)
    If the Dems are now negotiating over inane Death Panels that don’t even exist & recanting then they have already lost. It’s like they are admitting “Yes, we really did want to snuff granny so ok you of the Life Party win! We are murderers & we got caught. No Death Panels! It’s like telling Reagan the aliens are in our orbit & we can’t fight them with our STAR wars technology, & Reagan says “ok forget about STAR wars the aliens win!” Someone please change the game plan Dems & dogs are making fools of themselves & the idjets are winning! I don’t agree with the apparant plan to excise the bigot/stupid wound by letting the crazies physically attack older people with signs, strap guns to their thighs and verbally abuse the Congress. It’s NOT working.

  20. If the Democrats aren’t allowed to be total wimps who let the Republicans have their way on everything, what was even the point of the last two elections?

  21. I heard that President Obama might be asking Bill Clinton to fly to Washington to meet with Sen Grassley to see if he can rescue the Death Panel bill.

  22. [re=385629]slappypaddy[/re]: I’m with you. People get the end-of-life counseling they need already (if they have a doctor at all).

    My dad died Dec 26, 1995 (shittiest Xmas, ever). A month or two before, he had this chat with his doctor:

    Doc: “Well, you’re basically dying. We’re talking weeks, maybe a month. At this point it’s just a matter of deciding how much artificial support you want up to the end. Respirators, dialysis, defib machines, saline and morphine drips, catheters, breathing tubes, whatnot.”

    Dad: “Just the morphine, thank you.”

    Doc: “OK, we’ll have the hospice folks come by and set that up for you at home, if you prefer.”

  23. Obviously people only die because they’ve foolishly made health care directives and discussed end of life issues with their loved ones and/or doctors. If no one talked about death, it would never happen. WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!

  24. Something tells me Mr. O aint gonna go for this pulling the plug on pulling plugs. End of life care decision counseling is one of the most cost effective measures in the measure (you DC types correct me here if I have the wrong werds’s ). My father refused to consider doing this and you and I and even real ‘merikans spent many hundreds of thousands of dollars before he finally wised up and had an advanced directive done. Three or four times he got so sick he was in the ICU for weeks and weeks and then more weeks in a skilled nursing facility.
    Maybe he could have avoided all that torture ( if you ever spent more than a few days in a hospital you know torture is the right word )if his doctor had esplained that “heroic” life saving measures really means, and not just financially.
    At the end he hated himself because he burned through half of his savings and now his widow will have to live a life of poverty or nearly.
    She sure as shit aint renewing her golf membership.

  25. WTF? First I read that some douche on Redass has explained that anyone, even Trigger, could be Barack O’bama’s grandmother. Now fucking little Trigger is Chuck Grassley’s grandmother that Sen. Cobfucker is protecting from the Democratic Death Ray Panels that Bible Spice warned us all about. A warning, my friend, Sen. Eat-High-Fructose-And-Die-For-Iowa took to his corn fed heart.

    I am so fucking confused! What the hell is up with Trigger? Hey–guy who makes annoying song lyrics to shit all the time–try this one on for size–“Trig, The Magic ‘Tard Baby.”

  26. [re=385625]eclecticbrotha[/re]: “death panels for grandma, to keep her ass out of the people’s business”

    As usual, it’s the old fucks who are screwing over everyone. The same old fucks who are sucking more out of social security and medicare than anyone else will and have put less into than anyone in current and future workforce will.

    Only the WWIIs are worse, and that’s said by someone who was raised by them. “We lived through the Depression, and won WWII and YOU want a ride to school?”

    I’m an old person, less than a year from getting my social security (yeah, suck it kids, I’m going for it the minute I hit 62 while there’s something left) but I’m not like that. I’m good, fairminded, civic minded, liberal, and I’m not like that.

    But still, it’s the old fucks. Has always been the old fucks. Really, who in their right mind wants to write the Death Panels out of Health Care Reform? When it would be so good for society to kill the old fucks. (Except for me, my husband and a few of our friends, of course. Just give us opium dens.)

  27. [re=385798]Lascauxcaveman[/re]:
    Sorry, about your Dad. It must have been terrible to go through. I’ve had relatives die during the holidays (including my Dad)

  28. [re=385798]Lascauxcaveman[/re]: no snark here. my condolences. my parents are still alive, but they’re gettin’ on and every time the phone rings (i don’t get many calls) i think it may be the news.

  29. …This is good….The Senate should take out everything in the bill that the average “fucking redneck” wouldn’t understand.

  30. My Mom downloaded a living will from the Internet several years ago. She checked a series of boxes that met her wishes, signed it, got two neighbors to witness her signature and sign, then she had it notarized. When she was in an ICU last year, the care manager asked me to bring in the living will if she had one. I took in the notarized form and the hospital accepted it. No doctor or lawyer was involved. All it cost her was a small fee to the notary (aka, the guy at the local UPS store). Sheeple, we should all do this! You might need a lawyer if you think you have relatives who will contest your wishes, but in my family’s case, the Internet serves.

  31. [re=385981]Jukesgrrl[/re]: That’s what intelligent people do. But if you want to take your chances of living year after dreary year as an inert vegetable, endlessly prolonging the grief and horror of your friends and family, why bother doing something so simple and rational?

  32. [re=385981]Jukesgrrl[/re], [re=385825]Pithaughn[/re]: Going online is a pretty good idea for all of us who are plugged in to things like the internet. But as Pithaughn has pointed out, many of our elderly – especially the poor elderly – posses neither the technology nor the requisite knowledge of their options to use it, which is where provisions like this come in. Additionally, making end-of-life decisions in terms of what medical care to choose can be extremely confusing, especially when your family may disagree with you and / or have their own interests (such as, say, your money). As someone who has worked with social workers and nurses involved in doing DEATH PANEL COUNSELING on the state (of Wisconsin) dime for low-income elderly, I can say unequivocally that it’s a good, necessary thing.

    Frankly, I find it incredibly hard to believe that any of these people – even our beloved Grifter – were dumb enough to actually believe that such clearly worded provisions in the bill were about death panels. – this reeks of public manipulation for petty political gain. I don’t even have anything hilariously snarky to say about it, because it actually makes me physically ill.

  33. Reallly…so the Corn King has flown back to DC, is sitting in a committee room all by his lonesome and gleefully red-penning the Senate committee bill. Who knew that one man wielded such awesome power…it’s almost, dare I say, Nazi-esque.

  34. Isn’t it crazily stupid and psycho that all of these morons ranting and raving about “government-sponsored health care” will gladly, hungrily and arrogantly collect their Medicaid and Medicare payments and money—-which are government-sponsored, taxpayer-sponsored, tax-money-sponsored government health care?

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