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Thank Goodness The Church Elders Let This Guy Shoot Presidents From Their Lawn

You can’t bring GUNS and stand on grassy knolls during presidential events, people! Oh, unless the grassy knolls are owned by wingnut churches, then it’s cool. Your fault if anything happens, Obama! [YouTube]


3:32 PM on Tue August 11 2009
By Jim Newell
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  1. honkyman says at 3:35 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Who Would Jesus Gun Down?

  2. norbizness says at 3:39 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Cameras captured a man?! Man, those digital thingamajigs can do it all, although we should leave capturing up to Secret Service agents n’ shit.

  3. agentstinky says at 3:40 pm, August 11th, 2009

    “For lack of a better way of describing them.” Oh there’s definitely a better way of describing them, you just can’t say it on TV during the day.

  4. Crank Tango says at 3:40 pm, August 11th, 2009

    honkyman: I think it’s a safe bet that Jesus would have gunned down hitler, amirite?

  5. “And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my employer paid health plan. And you will know my name is Wingnut when I lay my vengeance upon thee.”

  6. “It’s Time to Water the Tree of Liberty?”

    How is that not a threat? That’s a direct incitement to violence!

  7. Advocatus_Diaboli says at 3:43 pm, August 11th, 2009

    IOIYAWEYSAR
    (It’s Okay If You’re a Wingnut Exerciscising Your Second Amendment Rights)

  8. honkyman: What dome wouldn’t JC be blowin’ up???

  9. Extemporanus says at 3:44 pm, August 11th, 2009

    The looks on the paused faces of the anchor and the reporter say so much more than the 5 minute clip ever could.

  10. problemwithcaring says at 3:46 pm, August 11th, 2009

    If someone gets brutally gunned down, it’s really Obama’s fault - flaunting his Martian birth the way he is doing, in front of real ‘Murkins.

    I, for one, think that if he is going to taunt would-be assassins, he really shouldn’t shoot his wad on Healthcare. He really should die for Net Neutrality.

  11. Bearbloke says at 3:46 pm, August 11th, 2009

    I’ve learned that the Remote Area Medical group (the good folks who provide free medical care to desperate uninsured people Third-world hellholes like Calcutta and Kentucky) is coming to The Forum in Los Angeles (where the Los Angeles Lakers used to play Cricket basketball)… perhaps President Obama can do another ‘Town Hall’ from somewhere near there, with a live video-feed of the goings-ons?

  12. dum librul says at 3:46 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Tybalt: Exactly what I was wondering. It’s not even indirect. Dude is brandishing a gun during a presidential visit with a sign with no other possible connotation than to imply blood letting. Weird happenings in the “Live Free and Kill” state.

  13. Advocatus_Diaboli says at 3:48 pm, August 11th, 2009

    “Say hello to my leetle penile enhancement device.”

  14. god.was.stingy says at 3:48 pm, August 11th, 2009

    What denomination would be okay with guns on god’s land? Google maps shows a Saint Nick’s Greek (not sure if it’s orthodox or just a kebab stand) Church, Seacoast Community Church and an LDS church in pretty close proximity.
    It’s always those militant mormons, greeks and community members stirring up trouble.

  15. Gopherit says at 3:48 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Hey, Jeebus doesn’t plan to get crucified on his second coming, bitches.

  16. WestEdEd says at 3:48 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Ya know, i always thought O would get clipped by some wing nut.

    I mean i don’t want it to happen, but frankly I’m shocked that 20 different guys named bubba didnt drive up to DC in spontaneous, unrelated attacks at the swearing in, with guns and bombs strapped to themselves.

    maybe us liberals need to butch up or something

  17. josereyes.theroof says at 3:48 pm, August 11th, 2009

    I have a deal for the Granite State gunslinger: suicide pact, you first.

  18. JeffGoldblum says at 3:49 pm, August 11th, 2009

    What kind of America do we live in when THE SALT OF THE EARTH can’t even bring a gun with him to protest something that is imaginary???/? IS THAT SO WRONG YOU TERRORISTS?????

  19. NoWireHangers says at 3:50 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Can’t the secret service just taze, waterboard, and torture fucks like this? Isn’t there some Nixonian W. Cheney law on the books that makes that legal?

  20. snideinplainsight says at 3:50 pm, August 11th, 2009

    There’s other ways of watering the Tree of Liberty. Did he have one of those stick on Calvin-peeing-on-it stickers on the back window of his truck, perhaps?

  21. PrairiePossum says at 3:52 pm, August 11th, 2009

    “It’s Time to Water the Tree of Liberty”

    I suspect suicide bombers have the same thought before they detonate themselves.

  22. problemwithcaring says at 3:53 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Bearbloke: Already happening. 3,000 people lined up as early as 2 o’clock this morning to get one of the 1500 appointments available a day. Police have been turning away a steady stream of people every since. Be interesting to see what the lines look like tomorrow, after such heavy news reporting of the event.

    You know, in LA, rioting is our default mode.

  23. DoctorCulturae says at 3:54 pm, August 11th, 2009

    dum librul: And I guess “watering the tree of liberty” is about doing so with blood.

    Srsly, wtf?

  24. dum librul says at 3:54 pm, August 11th, 2009

    NoWireHangers: Contrary to popular belief, something doesn’t become legal simply because the president does it. He needs a permission slip from John Yoo first.

  25. josereyes.theroof says at 3:55 pm, August 11th, 2009

    god.was.stingy: Going by name alone, I think it’s Seaside Community Church. Strikes as one of those “interdenominational”/”nondenominational” meeting-houses that tend to be the most fundamentalist. (Of course, that is odd, since they cannot even make up their mind on what sect to be part.)

  26. Jim89048 says at 3:55 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Gopherit: Not so sure he planned on it the first time out, either! I think his “Father” witheld some critical information…

  27. DoctorCulturae says at 3:56 pm, August 11th, 2009

    dum librul: Win of the afternoon.

  28. Gopherit says at 3:57 pm, August 11th, 2009

    PrairiePossum: The irony is we actually know who are the tyrants and who are the patriots. Patriots arm themselves with snark and call the police for people like that crazy fuck.

  29. slappypaddy says at 3:57 pm, August 11th, 2009

    honkyman: jesus was more into turning tables over, scattering spare change, and flogging people with his homemade whip, when he wasn’t raising the dead and suchlike. not sure he would’ve shot anyone, seems a little beneath his style.

    as for the feller with the hat and the pistol and the poster and the overbite, i’ll bet a greasy doughnut he was looking to redeem his miserable wasted life and hoping that the “patriot’s blood” that would be spilled to water the tree of liberty would be his own as he was shot down by the secret service, him not realizing that to realize this fantasy, he was going to have to do more than just stand there with that stupid gun sticking out of its holster, he was going to have to actually pull it out. i’ll bet a chocolate eclair that given that he was clearly visible to the cameras, he was in plain sight of the secret service marksman who had drawn a bead on him and was hoping he wouldn’t have to drill this retarded punk, what with all the ensuing publicity and paperwork that would entail.

  30. dum librul: I assume that the cops are simply not literary-minded. (Can’t imagine why that would be).

    DoctorCulturae: The phrase is “the tree of liberty must be periodically refreshed by the blood of tyrants.” It’s Thomas Jefferson.

  31. MARCdMan says at 3:58 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Well, from what i’ve heard it’s legal for the secret service to shoot anybody that they believe to be a threat to the president so let’s just let the fellas with the 50’s take care of him.

  32. queeraselvis v 2.0 says at 3:59 pm, August 11th, 2009

    snideinplainsight: Did he have one of those stick on Calvin-peeing-on-it stickers on the back window of his truck, perhaps?

    Truck? Nah. Anybody who comes packing to a political rally is making up for obvious shortcomings in the automotive department. My money’s on a Pinto or an AMC Gremlin.

  33. gurukalehuru says at 3:59 pm, August 11th, 2009

    That church should be excommunicated - from the human race.

  34. bullship says at 4:03 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Obviously a political motivated move. Pull the tax free exempt status from the church from where he is doing this. Don’t pussy foot around. If the church that is harboring this wingnut is going to be involved in political shenanigans, they pull their tax exempt status immediately.

  35. nailsinthecoffin says at 4:03 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Tybalt: Yes, it is an incitement. Here’s the full quote, attributed to Thomas Jefferson:

    “The tree of Liberty needs to be watered from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

    Um, I wonder what he means by his little sign?

  36. dum librul says at 4:04 pm, August 11th, 2009

    DoctorCulturae: I think the poor guy just has prostate cancer and he uses “water the tree of liberty” as a cutesy way of saying he has to pee.

  37. Your right to pack heat ends within range of the Blackfeller-in-Chief.

  38. nader paul kucinich gravel says at 4:05 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Left and rights of passage
    Black and whites of youth
    Who can face the knowledge
    That the truth is not the truth?
    Obsolete
    Absolute

  39. SayItWithWookies says at 4:06 pm, August 11th, 2009

    I’m sure Jefferson would be thrilled to learn that his little quote (”The Tree of Liberty must be watered from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants,” or something close to that) is being used by anti-intellectual loons. Oh, and of course it was on the t-shirt that Timothy McVeigh was wearing when he was apprehended too. Say, did anyone catch the name of the group on the bottom of the nut’s sign?

  40. Nerdalicious says at 4:06 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Did they let Squeaky Fromme out of folsom already?

  41. Fox n Fiends says at 4:08 pm, August 11th, 2009

    its time for the tree of life to lose its dead limbs

  42. jetjaguar says at 4:08 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Oh RELIGION. Is there anything you won’t justify?

  43. Joshua Norton says at 4:12 pm, August 11th, 2009

    nailsinthecoffin:

    Actually, the full quote is:

    “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

    Not to be pedantic or anything, but it does tweak the meaning a little.

  44. The Station Manager says at 4:13 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Live free or don’t.

  45. dum librul says at 4:14 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Joshua Norton: So he was planning murder/suicide. That makes it all better.

  46. Nerdalicious says at 4:14 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Dude on Msnbc said he would react to gun man like a person drinking a pepsi. Pepsi doesn’t kill people people do.
    “Church of the Poison Mind” ~Culture Club
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ppu_w09Xm9U&feature=fvw

  47. Carrie_Okie says at 4:15 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Gah I hear Squeaky Fromm was out. You’d think she’d learn by now?

  48. Joshua Norton says at 4:17 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Actually found the whole quote:

    “God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.
    The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is
    wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts
    they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions,
    it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. …
    And what country can preserve its liberties, if it’s rulers are not
    warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
    resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as
    to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost
    in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
    time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
    It is its natural manure.”

    Somehow that sudden reference to “manure” kind of takes the wind out of its sails.

  49. Extemporanus says at 4:17 pm, August 11th, 2009

    BREAKING: Pusillanimous Pete the Pistol-Packing Patriotic Paultard will be on “Hardball” this afternoon.

    Should be interesting if for no other reason than to watch Tweety’s psyche slowly implode as he attempts to square his Barack Obama-Working Class White love triangle.

  50. AKAM80TheWolf says at 4:17 pm, August 11th, 2009

    WestEdEd:

    I’ve been saying that for a while. The left needs teeth; and a liberal, sophisticated version of TruckNutz.

  51. scarymuppet says at 4:18 pm, August 11th, 2009

    The website on the bottom of his sign:
    http://restoretherepublic.com/
    Yikes. FEMA camp, new world order types. That guy shouldn’t be near ANYONE with a gun.

  52. obfuscator says at 4:19 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Jesus Christ,this is a disturbing development.

  53. Foolitics says at 4:23 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Sean Hannity (Fox News) – Is He Associated with White Supremacy, The KKK, and Homosexual Activities?
    http://msmpost.com/news/127/ARTICLE/1352/2009-08-08.html

  54. norbizness says at 4:24 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Shorter America: “GIVE ME LIPITOR OR GIVE ME DEATH.*”

    *I mean it, I cannot drink Big Gulps full of corn syrup and eat bacon right out of the package without it and live.

  55. I thought it was strange no one mentioned that the dude with the gun also had an ear piece. But really - this guy will be watering the tree of his pants leg when secret service has a chat with him.

  56. PrairiePossum says at 4:24 pm, August 11th, 2009

    AKAM80TheWolf:

    “The left needs … a liberal, sophisticated version of TruckNutz.”

    Prius peckers? Hybrid hooters?

  57. DoktorZoom says at 4:26 pm, August 11th, 2009

    OK, so this was a couple hours ago…any word on what happened to the guy?

  58. NoWireHangers: Yes there is, and I would bet you anything is now being enforced, to the max!

  59. Snarkalicious says at 4:28 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Hide the salami. That is all.

  60. GreatOldOnesParty says at 4:29 pm, August 11th, 2009

    MARCdMan: A fiddy? The man’s a wingnut not an engine block. At least he’ll never see it coming and it’ll be quick. Unless of course the Secret Service Sniper in question is bored out of his mind.

  61. PrairiePossum: Volvo Vulvas!

  62. I Am Not Your Gary Busey says at 4:34 pm, August 11th, 2009

    The byline on the bottom of smart guy’s poster refers to “restoretherepublic.com” Take a wild guess which elfin doctor-congressman they link to every five words.

  63. jetjaguar: “Those who can make you believe in absurdities can make you commit atrocities.”

  64. Extemporanus says at 4:37 pm, August 11th, 2009
  65. BlueStateLibtard says at 4:38 pm, August 11th, 2009

    DoktorZoom: Oh, by now he’s probably off to his Medicaid-paid psychiatrist to get a refill for his Lithium prescription. Then he was off to collect his disability and unemployment checks.

  66. Buzz Feedback says at 4:45 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Who are these lazy fukkers that don’t have anything better to do in the middle of the day than stand in the sun with a sidearm and a dumb sign for hours on end. Get a job!

  67. He’s just exercising the same rights he had whenever Bush held one of his public events. Remember how opposing viewpoints were aired in W’s presence in a lively intellectual atmosphere of automatic weapons fire?

    Was he eventually persuaded to get off the grass?

    How many virgins does this church offer?

  68. I Am Not Your Gary Busey says at 5:19 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Buzz Feedback: But, but: “They took err jerbs!!!”

  69. natteringnabomb says at 5:34 pm, August 11th, 2009

    The apostles were packin during the sermon on the mount.Most people fearin churches allow the same.No free fish to non-beleivers.

  70. nokoolaidforme says at 5:35 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Wow, you guys get in a tizzy over this?!?

    1) Citizen in full compliance with all applicable laws
    2) Citizen on private property - not that it matters, as long as he’s lawfully carrying
    3) Citizen has a sign with a “scary message” - a quote from one of the Founding Fathers! LOL!

    Were you all gelded as a group or individually?

    Sheesh!

  71. glamourdammerung says at 5:39 pm, August 11th, 2009

    There was another clown with a sign about healthcare being tyranny standing next to this moron when I saw this story earlier. At first I thought the second sign was taped to the first, and it very well could have been at the time.

    In any case, the Secret Service is probably going to be making this fellow’s life a bit more interesting since he already demonstrated he is a nutter.

  72. problemwithcaring says at 5:40 pm, August 11th, 2009

    nokoolaidforme: Is “tizzy” something old PUMA’s and racist bitters fantasize about Obama doing to their genitals when no one’s looking?

    Been waiting to find a old, dried-up, bitter, Matlock-watching, useless, fat fuck to ask - so seems today’s mah lucky day.

  73. They sent a black reporter to cover a crowd of racists, er, citizens who haven’t yet managed to come to terms with a black president. I call liberal media bias.

  74. Lazy Media says at 5:48 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Joshua Norton: Jefferson, while always elegant in his writing, was completely full of shit a LOT during his years as a statesman. See Alien and Sedition Acts, trade embargo, etc.

  75. HomoSuperior says at 5:51 pm, August 11th, 2009

    nokoolaidforme: Oh look, how adorable, great-grandpa managed to stop shitting his depends for a hot minute and use “LOL”, just like us cool young kids. HE IS SO HIP!!11!1

  76. doxastic says at 5:53 pm, August 11th, 2009

    nokoolaidforme: Oh bless your little heart. If it weren’t for movement conservatives, all LOLing would be sarcastic.

  77. doxastic says at 5:55 pm, August 11th, 2009

    nokoolaidforme: and as to the gelding, we’re waiting for that to be funded by the government. It should be any day now.

  78. hobospacejunkie says at 6:05 pm, August 11th, 2009

    nokoolaidforme: I believe we were gelded individually. In fact, the “meatballs” you ate last night were actually my testicles. Not to worry. A little stem cell research on some aborted fetuses and they’ll grow right back.

  79. NotthatLC says at 6:07 pm, August 11th, 2009

    nokoolaidforme:
    Yup, the gun is lawfully his, and he’s lawfully standing on private property. And you know what? The Secret Service, WHO HAS BEEN GETTING 150 DEATH THREATS A WEEK against Obama, was probably all up in his ass. Lawfully. Also, in a reality-based world, that other guy’s sign, about the tree of liberty needing to be refreshed by the blood of patriots and tyrants? That can well be considered a threat against the President of the United States, unless the sign-holder is planning to off himself, which I doubt. And you pretending that it is otherwise is disingenuous at best (look the word up if you don’t know what it means).

    I mean, really. He wants you to have health care, and not have to pay for it. And YOU are on the side of corporations that base who it is who will and will not receive medical treatment based entirely on profit. One more time: Obama wants you to be able to go to a hospital, go to a doctor, and get the help you need, without mortgaging your entire savings/livelihood. I don’t get it - other than there’s a (D) in front of the plan, how is that a bad thing?

    Why is that you people keep fighting against your own best interests? Insurance companies don’t give a shit about you, never have, never will.

  80. Jukesgrrl says at 6:08 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Joshua Norton: “The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive.”

    How did Thomas Jefferson know about Sarah Palin?

  81. american mutt says at 6:11 pm, August 11th, 2009

    nokoolaidforme: No, we just consider it a strange loophole if a citizen is allowed to be that close to a president with a gun.

  82. kewlguy42069 says at 6:15 pm, August 11th, 2009

    ah, New Hampshire, the Deep South of New England.

  83. BlueStateLibtard says at 6:19 pm, August 11th, 2009

    “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time.”

    But isn’t this precisely why we have peaceful elections every four years, so that we can replace our leaders if we want, without the streets having to run with blood?

  84. nokoolaidforme: Have you even once considered what would happen to this country if President Obama is assassinated? You had better think about it long and hard about it before you repeat any more of the kind of naive and childish excuses you just posted here.

    Nowhere in America would be safe from the kind of a king-hell-shit-storm that would come down if our President is killed. Don’t even kid yourself about it.

  85. finallyhappy says at 6:43 pm, August 11th, 2009

    If you stand in front of the White House with a sign(not to do with the President- try “Save Darfur” or “Free Burma”)- between the two lamps posts that basically center the front door- and do not keep moving(back and forth is ok), you will be arrested. So why wasn’t this drooleer with a gun at a presidential event not arrested? I hope the Secret Service did their job and did arrest him. I do not care if the Fox media whores yell about it or Caribou Barbie whines about it on Facebook. As to nokoolaid- go back to your little friends at Freeper or LGF- or maybe finish that reading for your GED.

  86. NotthatLC says at 6:52 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Athar:

    Exactly. And, speaking of dickheads who can’t think long-term: Biden would be next in the line of succession. After him? Pelosi. But at least you wouldn’t have to stare at a black guy on your television any more, right?
    America voted. nokoolaidfor me, I don’t know where you were, but you got out-numbered, and our guy won. In three years and some change, we get to try again. Maybe you should think about registering to vote this time, because I hear that decisions are made by those who show up.

  87. blinky_twinkie says at 6:56 pm, August 11th, 2009

    DoktorZoom: Here he is on “Hardball” (via TPM) defending the loaded gun and wondering why *more* people don’t wander around fully armed:

    http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/2009/08/gun-toter-at-obama-town-hall-whod-be-silly-enough-to-carry-an-unloaded-firearm.php?ref=fpb

  88. trickyrick says at 6:57 pm, August 11th, 2009

    finallyhappy: The man with the gun and the bloody sign needs to be moved to the ‘free speech’ zone.

    what? oh, that was Bush-sorry.

  89. slappypaddy says at 6:58 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Athar: s’true. nights of long knives, days of shattered glass, weeks of rage and fire. it’d be kind of apocalyptic, a real christian sort of thing.

  90. trickyrick says at 7:01 pm, August 11th, 2009

    slappypaddy: word.

  91. slappypaddy: Remember 1968, when the Cities burned?

  92. widget09 says at 7:20 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Guns on the grassey knowles aren’t nearly as lethal as magic bullets fired from book depositories.

  93. Sick Puppy says at 7:29 pm, August 11th, 2009

    I suspect that we have more to fear from the guns we DON’T see. I saw Chris Matthews interview the gun guy this afternoon - bets on when he gets a book deal?

  94. Bearbloke says at 7:31 pm, August 11th, 2009
  95. Bearbloke says at 7:40 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Sick Puppy: William Kostric will be the new Joe-the-plumber by the week-end…

    Athar: Not to be too apocalyptic, but I’m sure burning US cities will cause your Chi-Com Overlords to “rethink” their policy of loaning hard currency to keep America afloat… but at least your Tea=baggers will be free from the BRUTAL TYRANNY of your Kenyan Indonesian Communist Fascist NIGGER MUSLIN fake President…

  96. Mr Blifil says at 7:43 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Joshua Norton: Yeah that manure reference is total horseshit.

  97. Neilist says at 7:44 pm, August 11th, 2009

    I DON’T believe it: You Anti-Gun Lunatics are quoting Thomas Jefferson on the value/virtue of ARMED resistance in protecting democracy????????

    Jesus-H.-Christ-On-A-Bicycle: Can’t you even try for a little intellectual consistency? No wonder “Modern Liberalism” has such a poor reputation.

    Oh, I know: You need to “update” Jefferson’s “outdated ideas” on the Second Amendment. Nowadays, you all plan to oppose government with your iPods.

    (Or more likely, with this group: Your Zunes.)

  98. Carl Spakler says at 7:47 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Isn’t civil war and the destruction of this country exactly what this entire bagger-birther-deather-etc movement has in mind?

    Their contempt for this country is only exceed by their ignorance of its history.

    Guess if you can’t do it at the ballot box, you’re next best option is to burn the whole show to the ground, eh.

  99. Carl Spakler says at 7:49 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Just watched the Tweety video….Kostric looks like Oswald’s long lost brother…ugh! Only thing missing is him yelling “I’m a pasty”.

  100. King of the Dipshits says at 7:58 pm, August 11th, 2009

    It was weird enough when the doughy right-wing suburbtards started to read “Rules for Radicals,” it is totally mind bending that they have decided to emulate Bobby Seale and Huey Newton. Oddly enough when a white guy threatens public officials by walking around with a gun its “all perfectly legal” and when the Black Panthers tried it they were… well, murdered by the police. I predict the wingnuts will next start imitating the Weathermen by burning down government funded healthcare facilities.

  101. Carl Spakler says at 7:59 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Neilist: Couldn’t hurt, besides the last time organized, armed resistance to the government got tried in the US, the south just got the living shit kicked out of it. However it only cost Lincoln a better part of his occipital lobe.

  102. glamourdammerung says at 8:02 pm, August 11th, 2009

    King of the Dipshits: “I predict the wingnuts will next start imitating the Weathermen by burning down government funded healthcare facilities.”

    Why? Do you not think they are financially stable enough to rent Ryder Trucks?

  103. saggyboobedhag says at 8:03 pm, August 11th, 2009

    If you got within two miles of Bush with an opposing opinion you got arrested. My husband got a phone call from a police chief threatening him with arrest just because he wanted to get poster-wielding protesters within view of a Bush motorcade in NC. They were allowed to protest but nowhere near either Bush or the press.

    And these people compare Obama to Hitler. Nice media coverage not to mention all those Bush arrests. Didn’t someone go to jail over a t-shirt?

  104. glamourdammerung says at 8:04 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Neilist: I do not think it is inconsistent to point out that just because you can do something does not mean is it a good idea to do it. I am pretty pro-gun, but at the same time I think the NRA nutter brigade does more to negatively impact gun rights than any other group.

  105. Carl Spakler says at 8:13 pm, August 11th, 2009

    “That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state, therefore, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.”

    From the Virginia Constitution, Section 1, Article 13. At least Jefferson was decent enough to clear up the intent of right to bear arms, and get past this whole milita or not argument.

  106. Extemporanus says at 8:38 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Carl Spakler: Only thing missing is him yelling “I’m a pasty”.

    That’s a great nickname for all of those fucking “Paletards”!

    (Though if he were a bit more doughy, he’d probably yell “I’m a pastry!”)

  107. Carl Spakler says at 8:47 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Extemporanus: Shit! Patsy…Patsy. Nothing screws up snark like a typo.

    Oh well, I have could always say the only thing missing was Jack Ruby

  108. Extemporanus says at 9:02 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Carl Spakler: If anyone asks, “Pasty” was not a typo. Seriously.

    I could easily imagine a pale, white, sickly, paste-eating Paletard whimpering that as they’re repeatedly blasted by an irate Chris “Ruby-faced” Matthews.

  109. schvitzatura says at 9:07 pm, August 11th, 2009

    MARCdMan: No .50s, just a Secret Service Winchester DM (Designated Marksman) .300 Mag with Nosler ballistic silvertip 180gr round…sighted in at “minute of douchetard”. Your results may vary.

  110. Carl Spakler says at 9:08 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Extemporanus: Fine, I’m in. It was intentional. All in the name of coming up making Paletard go viral.

  111. Carl Spakler says at 9:09 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Carl Spakler: Ugh…delete ‘coming up’ in previous. I’m just all tuckered out from listening to the news all day sitting in a hotel room in Georgia.

  112. BlueStateLibtard says at 9:10 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Neilist: Why not just oppose government officials and parties by voting them out of office?!? Like, remember, we voted out the Repubatards last November? No need for guns or ipods.

  113. Carl Spakler says at 9:12 pm, August 11th, 2009
  114. schvitzatura says at 9:31 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Neilist: Would you feel better if ACORN got the “community” kitted out with citizen-obtained C&R licensed Yugo SKS M59/66s and vz. 50s? At least it would even things out, right?

  115. Extemporanus says at 9:42 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Carl Spakler: Extemporanus: I didn’t mean to be so bold, either.

    You need to split that hotel immediately, and head on down to the local honkey tonk. A cold beer and a hot band would make your night in Georgia a hell of a lot better than your day.

    Just watch out for Officer Paletard—I hear that he’s got some serious daddy issues…

  116. GreatOldOnesParty says at 10:51 pm, August 11th, 2009

    nokoolaidforme: denial much?
    And to think the right accuses US of spin.

  117. crankypants says at 11:22 pm, August 11th, 2009

    This is a direct result of loudmouths like Sean Hannity, Fat Limbaugh, Kneepads Palin et al getting the half wits out of the woodwork. It has nothing to do with healthcare and everything to do with Lord of the Flies.

  118. Brian MORAN says at 11:29 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Tybalt: I thought the exact same thing.

    Who else could the tyrant/tyrants be in this demented scenario?

    I saw it as this kook saying that he was the “patriot” willing to be a martyr for the kingdom of Dipshit, urging others to take it to the next level.

    If he believes what it says on his shirt, what else could he mean.

    If the story about the secret service needing more resources and not getting them is true… forgot where I read it… TPM maybe… someone needs to realize that these people shouldn’t be taken lightly.

    There are a lot of die - hard Glenn Beck fans and Ron Paul / Alex Jones crazies in this country. They may not be much compared to the population as a whole, but the and the extreme members of both groups are definitely capable of something violent.

    The violent rhetoric has got to stop.

    And fuck the Larouche Douche patrol. Also.

  119. Brian MORAN says at 11:34 pm, August 11th, 2009

    Extemporanus: Yeah, both of them have to know that stale, pale, and male protesters’ real problem has nothing to do with legislation.

    I’m waiting for the “Don’t Tread On… Oh Fuck It, He’s Bla - ack!” signs.

  120. Brian MORAN says at 11:46 pm, August 11th, 2009

    nokoolaidforme: Eat my balls, libertardian fuck.

  121. I look forward to the legitimate authorities soon prying his pistola-weenie from his cold, dead fingers.

  122. Bearbloke: I see you are well on your way to being known as a predictable little racist.

  123. Carl Spakler: Come back when you’ve read a little more history, e.g., the part about how the South, with virtually no industry, military or otherwise, held the Brutal Northern Armies of Aggression at bay for over four years using that “well-regulated militia” thingie — and a couple of times, came close to winning.

    schvitzatura: Ah, yes, the usual Liberal Solution to Dissent: Government assassins armed with high-powered rifles. (Gesh: Intellectual Consistency really IS Terra Incognito to you people, isn’t it.)

    BlueStateLibtard: You honestly think “the government” has changed? Haven’t been reading the papers much recently, have you? Like the part about how we’re no longer bailing out Wall Street; the torturers have been punished; the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are over; and single payer health insurnace is just about to go into effect. (Hopey really keeps his campaign promises, don’t he?)

    schvitzatura: You priced an SKS recently? ACORN can no longer afford them. And AKs are right through the roof. (Price-wise, I mean.)

    Okay, got to get back to these Oppositions. Slapping you people with Reality is fun, but my left gets tired after the first 100 jabs you all block with your faces.

  124. This man is obviously a fraud. Real Birthbaggers carry guns in ziplock bags.

  125. MilwaukeeKent says at 2:51 am, August 12th, 2009

    Neilist:

    You mean the South that, with its noble military tradition and pseudo-aristocratic tendencies, sent its best and brightest generation right to the front lines only to be shot down and inevitably to lose the war to the industrialized North, just about the time that the cotton gin and other innovations were rendering the ugly institution of slavery obsolete, only to leave the entire region in the grip forever of backward poor whites who had a serious problem with the “all Men being created equal” part but no problem at all with the “slave as three-fifths of a human being” part? Are we talking about the same place?

    Seriously, what kind of F-wad takes a gun anywhere near an elected official at a public rally? Since you’re such a student of history, ya notice we have kind of a, how to say it, mixed history with that blend?

  126. LoweredPeninsula says at 4:41 am, August 12th, 2009

    Why is Neilist still allowed here?

  127. meyotch says at 6:43 am, August 12th, 2009

    nader paul kucinich gravel: I finally get it. You’re trying to write the sequel to the Dr. Bronner’s soap bottle, amirite?

  128. Carl Spakler says at 7:12 am, August 12th, 2009

    Neilist: So what? (and since you’re such a history major, who allegedly said it and what was in in reference to). What’s the objective of war again? If it’s to win a whole bunch of battles and lose the ultimate objective, then great. At the end of the day, the south still got rolled in a ditch. Your counter is right up the Germans saying between 1938-1943 we were undefeated on the Battlefield.

    Second point, so, you’re against standing armies now?

  129. Carl Spakler says at 7:14 am, August 12th, 2009

    Carl Spakler: Shoot…’the Germans’ should equal ‘there with the Germans’

    (I’m going for my civil discourse merit badge today.)

  130. El Pinche says at 8:43 am, August 12th, 2009

    LoweredPeninsula: because he’s Hilarious and he’s much Smarter than all us combined.

  131. norbizness says at 9:05 am, August 12th, 2009

    Neilist: Does Dairy Queen really take notice of the “self-proclaimed winner of many Wonkette arguments” line in the ‘Accomplishments’ section of your résumé when seeking to fill its Blizzard Technician I position?

  132. BlueStateLibtard says at 10:04 am, August 12th, 2009

    Neilist: You really are a retard if you don’t think there was a difference between Obama/Biden and McCain/Palin. For one, Palin would be having a nervous breakdown at this point, as it’s clear she couldn’t handle the stress of running for VP, much less being one. And you only demonstrate how much of a retard you really are by thinking that the fact that the South won a few initial skirmishes somehow makes up for the fact that it was eventually pulverized by the North.

  133. zenferret says at 11:21 am, August 12th, 2009

    Neilist:

    The South nearly won? Oh yeah. You can tell by how often they made it up into Northern Territory. The famous battles in Boston harbor. The burning of Pittsbugh. The Siege of New York. The north barely held on.

    Neilist is beating the Wonketteers as badly as McCain beat Obama.

    Lazy Media:

    Oops, A and S acts were from Adams term. Jefferson’s followers were the target.

    El Pinche:

    I wish I was as smart as Neilist. I could get promoted from this menial labor here at the NCBI.

  134. nokoolaidforme says at 2:58 pm, August 12th, 2009

    Quote: “The Secret Service, WHO HAS BEEN GETTING 150 DEATH THREATS A WEEK against Obama, was probably all up in his ass. Lawfully.”

    Still waiting for this to happen, but I suspect it will be a long wait. As I said, the guy did nothing unlawful. The whole thing was pretty much a non-event, except to the moonbats and Obamabots.

    Between you folks and the wingnuts I would expect tin foil to be very scarce in the near future. Scary gun + scarier sign = left wing paranoia.

    Carry on, by all means. It’s entertaining to watch.

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