Did you know that back in 2002 charming Dr. Strangelove extra Dick Cheney wanted to deploy American troops to Buffalo, New York? Little known outside the nightmares of national security insiders, Buffalo, or “جاموس ” is a remote hellscape in Kashmir ruled by tribal warlords and their thuggish philosopher-king, Vincent Gallo. It was also the home of the “Lackawanna Six,” a group of terrorism suspects who Cheney wanted to arrest in spite of (because of??) the lack of evidence against them.
Anyway, made much more sense to just deploy the military to scoop ‘em up—tanks, guns, fuckin’ you know, whatever else, but definitely, definitely tanks—and just do whatever with them, and not even bother with the F.B.I. and their questions, because what’s going to retroactively prevent 9/11: a tank or a question?
It would have been the first time US forces would have been deployed on American soil since the Civil War, before which, you’ll recall, al-Qaeda had manipulated America’s white gentry into purchasing human beings, as slaves, for hundreds of years in attempts to secure an antebellum caliphate. So you see it’s not like there wasn’t historical precedent for this sort of thing. However, Bush and Condi nixed the idea and Dick Cheney was not allowed to deploy the military to Buffalo. The Lackawanna Six were apprehended by F.B.I. officers, who, despite driving, what, probably Town Cars?, were able to successfully arrest the suspects. LAME.
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What? Would this have been like the famous scene from “Apocalypse Now”!
The Air Cavalry swooping in to the sounds of Wagner, raining death from above on everyone in that Buffalo suburb?
And Cheney would man the megaphone and declare – “If I say its safe to surf this beach – its safe to surf this beach!”
Buffalo would have welcomed them as liberators.
If they had deployed troops it would have made it easier to implement their recent scorched earth policy in New Jersey.
Lackawanna 6? Yes, as a matter of fact, I do.
Dick Cheney is the real Messenger of Social Justice.
And what about those monsters that keep washing up in Montauk? When the live ones attack everyone will be calling begging for soldiers with guns . . .
I just read recently that Hunter Thompson said that if there was an election between Nixon and Bush/Cheney, he would have voted for Nixon and that guy fucking HATED Nixon.
And thanks for manning the fort while the rest of those layabouts are off watching 500 Day of Summer, Julie.
Cheney was a Pussy Communatis.
Black suited commandos coming down on black Blackhawks in shithole US America (hey I’ve been to Lakawana and it’s a shithole)?
Ironic that the guys screaming about the black helos and black suited commandos (ie: teabagging dumbfucks) are the same guys who actually wanted to do it for real instead of some RW militia masturbatory fantasy.
[re=370702]Cape Clod[/re]: Hm, interesting choice of devils. I think I too would vote for Nixon. At least with Nixon, you knew how much he was lying by how much he sweated. With Cheney’s hand up Bush The Puppet’s ass, you can’t tell where the lies are because Bush never had a clue one way or another what he was talking about.
Cheney’s justification? We don’t have to break the law with an unprecedented use of singular executive power — but it’s best to stay in practice. He learned this from Nixon.
Ah, Dick Cheney — the asshole that keeps on shitting.
Cheney was really just concerned for the citizens of buffalo. His doctrine of pre-emptive strike was a crucial part of the vitally important plan to prevent the buffalo bills from ever being on television again.
The Lackawanna Six business was just a red herring. Once our troops are running around Buffalo, there’s no way they’re not invading Canada. The impossible dream never dies.
[re=370702]Cape Clod[/re]: not to mention HST shuffled off this mortal coil long before much of what we now consider “the really bad shit” happened and/or came to light. And as far as revelation, we’re probably still only at about 15% of unquestionably illegal and evil shit. HST would’ve shot himself much sooner had he known the horror. the horror.
also, today’s republicans would probably kick Nixon circa 1960-74 right out of the party. he’s a lib’rul. (also, again, nixon = lieberman. for reels.)
If only Cheney would stand too close to a leaky microwave oven…
Not to be a historyfag, but I believe that the army (or their tanks at least) was deployed to support the federal agents at the Siege of Wounded Knee in 1973.
But anyways, the more I find out about Dick Cheney’s evil plots, the less each one surprises me. Secret prisons in 3rd world allied countries where torture is carried out? Expansive, illegal and thoroughly invasive domestic spy program? Trained bands of assassins answering to him personally? Invade Buffalo, NY with the Army, to catch six dudes, rather than send in the police? Sure, I could see Ol’ Dick doing all that. It wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest to discover that he’s also been building a clone army or creating a R.A.G.E. virus that makes people into zombies. ‘Cause seriously, fuck that guy.
An extra? He was the stunt-penis!
Do terrorists eat Beef on Wek?
[re=370713]Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas[/re]: The microwave would explode.
[re=370715]Gallowglass[/re]: I think, though I’d have to look it up, that there were some National Guardsmen and armored personnel carriers called out for Wounded Knee, mostly as back-up for the US Marshals and FBI agents who were the lead force facing the protesters. What Cheney wanted sounds like it was much different: calling out regular Army units for use on domestic soil, which is explicitly forbidden by Posse Comitatus.
[re=370715]Gallowglass[/re]: Those were National Guard troops, so under control of the governor.
http://www.answers.com/topic/wounded-knee-south-dakota
Oh, and don’t forget that Cheney wanted to cancel the 2004 elections. Because it wouldn’t be safe to have elections during a war. That he started. For a made up reason. Why he gave up power peacefully this past January I’ll never know.
Dang it, it could been an extra episode of John Adams on HBO.
Buffalo needs a quarterback, not a half-ass. And why are you trying to ruin my summer by offering a choice between Nixon and Bush/Cheney? That’s like myopic firing squad vs. badly administered lethal injection. (When will we pass an amendment to put None of the Above on the ballot?)
Yum. Jamoos burgers all around.
Dick Cheney in the tank.
Didn’t Eisenhower send the 101st Airborne to Little Rock to enforce Brown v. Board of Ed.? Why doesn’t that count?
Bush/Cheney admin was scary and almost turned this country into a police state. There is a related post at http://iamsoannoyed.com/?page_id=588
Wait a minute! There’s oil in Buffalo?
Attack Buffalo? Hey, one mistake by the lake is enough, thanks very much.
But you can’t really blame Cheney. After all, Buffalo is the hamlet that Frank Sedita ruled with an iron fist, and the name Sedita comes from “sedition.”
But if any place should have drawn Cheney’s fire, it shoulda been Tonawanda first, then Lackawanna….
Johnny Yoo wrote a memo saying it was okey-dokey to do and that’s good enuf for me. He cited as precedent the US Army’s actions to suppress Latino terrorist in Texas. It’s sometimes called the Beaner-America War of 1848, or “How We Stole The West.”
http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/documents/memomilitaryforcecombatus10232001.pdf
BYW: The Cambridge police were going to call the Army to arrest Henry Gates, but they lost the phone number.
Ironically, Bush opposed this because Cheney didn’t have an exit strategy.
Otherwise it would have been shock and awe. SHOCK AND AWE MOTHER FUCKERS!
Big Russ would have approved. Little Russ wouldn’t have dared to ask anyone on his show about it.
And really, who would miss Buffalo? Just weathercasters.
[re=370730]Lionel Hutz Esq.[/re]:
Most residents of Bufallo are still looking for an an exit strategy. This is why the Canadian government has placed Mounties armed with poison-tipped lances at the International Crossing.
In defense of his Dark Lord, Buffalo has long been a seat of leftist radicalism. Don’t forget, Tim Russert was from there. And the Bills always lost the Super Bowl by missing to the left.
[re=370732]S.Luggo[/re]: Yeah, that is what the Pakistanis said too, but I bet the border is porous. Hell, I’ve heard that they have socialized medicine in the mountainous region north of the border.
Maybe he wanted some decent wings and a pitcher of Blue!
(and believe me, around DC, decent wings are a pretty rare commodity!)
Does anyone remember the plane crash right outside Buffalo not even a month into O’s presidency? It was Cheneylove (?!) tying up some loose ends with his contacts there.
You know that Nixon is kicking himself in his crypt for having not thought of this. We would have been that close to Watchmen being historical reality. Not that Cheney didn’t try hard himself.
[re=370736]rereridiculous[/re]: Yeah, I thought the same thing too about that plane crash right around Buffalo. Cheney going rogue tying up some loose ends?
[re=370734]Lionel Hutz Esq.[/re]: Which is why I shall never live in the land of Molson and the McKenzie brother. I shall never surrender my precious freedoms to be sick and uninsured. It says so right in the Constitution.
It’s weird to think of George W. as the voice of reason. I guess he had some vague understanding of constitutional law after all.
Or maybe he was afraid the tanks would accidentally roll over one of those poor buffalo.
[re=370725]automandc[/re]: because our gov had already sent in the national guard under his command tokeep the uppities out. That left IKE with the unenviable choice of federalizing the guard or sending in the 101st Stillborn
[re=370725]automandc[/re]: That’s a good point– I think the issue is that it’s illegal for the Army to arrest people in the US. In the case of Little Rock, they were just backing up the federalized Arkansas National Guard.
Better to fight them over there in Buffalo than over here in Columbus.
When will the Obama department of Health and Human Services declare Richard Cheney insane?????!!!!
I want to know if their planning involved any post-op restorative measures to ensure that the Buffalonians were able to restore their county to it’s former glory…or just the rest of the Lackawannians…
[re=370720]SayItWithWookies[/re]: he didn’t give up power “peacefully” unless by “peacefully” you mean beaten down by the fucking A Team to the extent that he had to be wheeled to the power transfer because he hurt himself “moving boxes.” as if “seven draft deferments flat-foot, hair-trigger to a septegenarian hunter” ever moved a fucking box in his entire santorum-stain life.
seriously fuck that guy with milton berle’s dick.
In reality, isn’t the question: If Obama really loved his country, why hasn’t he sent the Army in to deal with Skip Gates yet?
[re=370742]ummm[/re]: I didn’t know the guard had been federalized. Sooo long since Arkansas History; for which there is no textbook. We kinda just make up shit as we go along — and err on the side of dumbassry and racism — and can usually arrive at a fairly accurate depiction of the times.
if their planning involved any post-op restorative measures to ensure that the Buffalonians were able to restore their county to it’s former gloryYea
Yeah! And bringing back William McKinley. Also.
Gotta tell ya this story. My brother in law–nice guy, veterinarian, claims he and my sister and his dad are the only Dems in the state of Wyoming, tells this one…Strict English father, grew up next door to the family that spawned Liz Cheney in Cheyenne. Bro-in-law was playing in the yard while dad gardened. Dickhole, (visiting sweetheart Lynne from college was doing what only a young Republican asshole would be doing in the 1960′s–teeing off golf balls. One landed in my bro-in-law to be’s yard and future VP came over to the fence and said, “Boy, throw that ball over.” My future relative said something to the the effect of “Fuck you”. Anyway, the point of the whole story is that his dad said if you had spoken that way to any other adult I would have whupped your butt, but that arrogant little prick deserved it…..
[re=370715]Gallowglass[/re]: At this point, any Cheney story kind of bores me. Unless they actually have photos of him chopping somebody into teeny little pieces with an axe, I’m kind of whatever about it.
[re=370702]Cape Clod[/re]:I just read somewhere that Nixon actually proposed a universal health care bill that went farther in covering people than anything we’ve been hearing now and also created the EPA. So maybe the lesson is that if you want progressive action taken in this country, you need to elect a paranoid, anti-semitic, racist crook to be President.
My understanding is that the Department of Law in the White House approved of this plan.
Phew!
What a diseased sewer this place is.
I’d vote for Cheney in a second just to turn him loose on you creatures.
Let’s put this one on wheel of fortune. The Cheney-Buffalo connection?
Chicken Wing Nut
I travelled with a USO tour through Lackawanna, and a good dose of shock and awe might improve property values.
However, Mistress Condie scared the Chimpster off with scary stories about meeting a ‘comatose possum.’
[re=370758]2012_IsOurs[/re]: I cant take you seriously until I see a birth certificate.
They couldn’t send troops to Buffalo, so instead they sent T.O.? I’m pretty sure the Army would have been quite effective; a Private with an M16 would make many a linebacker think twice about blitzing the QB… Or whatever linebackers do.
Apologies for that, I literally do not understand a word of the previous sentence.
[re=370758]2012_IsOurs[/re]: Of course you would. I expect nothing less from members of the dwindling pack of hyenas popping oxycontin like pez before boozing up to go find “love” in a public toilet.
But hey! To each his own.
[re=370758]2012_IsOurs[/re]: What are you talking about? We’re a product of the Cheney Vice-Presidency – a sewer based product, but a product nonetheless.
Think about it, if the world hadn’t been completely screwed over in the last eight years, we would never had attained this level of cynicism.
I wonder how many gray wolves, oops!, I mean terrorist buffalonians, one could pop from a helicopter with that musket an hour? You betcha!
[re=370755]Hooray For Anything[/re]: Signed the Endangered Species Act and smiled when he did it. He was about par with Bill Clinton on the right/left scale. BHO took a half-step to the left from them.
[re=370733]Lionel Hutz Esq.[/re]: No, no, Scott Norwood’s missed field goal was “wide to the right” in 1991. I know this: I still have nightmares about it. But then again, as a Bills fan, my entire life is one big nightmare.
[re=370758]2012_IsOurs[/re]: Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cheney R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn!
[re=370765]iwillsavethispatient[/re]: No, his metaphor makes sense. We all know that the interent is a series of tubes, and Cheney is one gigantic shit…..
[re=370769]AutomaticPilot[/re]: I actually knew that, but I wasn’t going to let reality stop a joke…, which does sort of sound like the Iraq war.
You silly liberal blog, you Wonkette. I’ve read the corporate press accounts and they all say it was more of a relaxed philosophical discussion to the effect that, Cheney could send out the Army to round up domestic bad people, if he felt like it.
So, no worries. Sleep tight.
[re=370715]Gallowglass[/re]: The National Guard =/= the U.S. Army.
[re=370720]SayItWithWookies[/re]: History will somewhat exonerate GW Bush, in that he thwarted Cheney’s attempted overthrow of the U.S. Constitution. If Cheney and Rumsfeld had been allowed to go wild, we’d be WAY more fucked now than we are. We’d be attempting to occupy Iran and Syria, f’rinstance, plus having military troops kicking down every Arab door in U.S. America.
Uh, thanks, W, I guess.
Ha ha ha, “charming Dr. Strangelove extra”, “Buffalo, or “جاموس ””, this article killed me! Kudos to your new crack team of comedy writers. I couldn’t even pay attention to the serious political content, because I was laughing too much.
[re=370762]iwillsavethispatient[/re]: fag.
[re=370715]Gallowglass[/re]: Historyhero, not fag. You’re right.
[re=370727]Dreadful Gate[/re]: No oil, but we had to save the poor, oppressed womenfolk of Buffalo. Think of the womenfolk!
[re=370762]iwillsavethispatient[/re]: I say that with extreme love, btw, as someone who spent their summmer vacation at Pride Week in SF. But, jeezus, even if you have sex with girls, you are such a big sissy. Learn teh footballs. Unless you actually are a girl, in which case learn it only if you like to have lots of secks.
[re=370774]Lazy Media[/re]: Are you kidding, Cheney/Rummy are so incompetent, we’d still be bogged down in Buffalo with no end in sight.
Could someone explain why the wingnuts who are always apeshit over Possee Comitatus (which sounds a lot like some sort of Athlete’s Foot Fungus) are not all over Cheney for touching this “third rail” of Constitutional bullshitery???
[re=370771]Lionel Hutz Esq.[/re]: What really sucks for Cheney is when he goes on trial for warcrimes he’s going to have a hard time saying he was following orders if Bush keeps throwing him under the bus.
[re=370779]Johnny Zhivago[/re]: We are totally capable of crushing every army in the world, including China. It’s holding/consolidating territory we’re not so good at. When I was in Baghdad, you could SEE Cheney’s hoofprints on bullshit we were putting out, about Iran’s supposed monopoly on EFPs. Fortunately, the downrange press had developed a bullshit detector by then. I also think every four-star in the Pentagon should get a special decoration for thwarting the Cheney/Rumsfeld Iran-American War.
[re=370715]Gallowglass[/re]: There was an earlier Wounded Knee incident in 1890. Federal troops carried out that massacre and that was after the Civil War.
Wow, you group of folks attracted a troll and a blog whore, and on a Saturday, no less. It ain’t the legendary paultard wars, but for a non-election year on a sweltering July day it’s pretty good.
we’d still be bogged down in Buffalo with no end in sight.
I understand a lot of people from Buffalo feel that way. Even without a “war” going on.
Oh god, Dick…SHOOT IT IN MY FACE!!!1!!
if Bush keeps throwing him under the bus.
And “a slap in the face”. Don’t forget that one.
Dick’s “THE MAN ” . I’d like him to hunt down a pack of LIBS anytime . and see them scurry like a pack of RATS !
[re=370754]Scandalabra[/re]: I think of people from that region as being quiet, strong, and respectful. Cheney was none of those. I realize a lot will take up for him. But I hope most will see through that.
Dick’s a real man . I’d love for him to hunt a pack of libs with those weapons of his anytime, and watch them scurry like apack of RATS !
[re=370783]hobospacejunkie[/re]: Notice we’re not responding to them because they’re boring. Where are the ALL CAPS nutcases and birthers?
war crimes ???? Don’t make me laugh ! Harry Reid , Pilosi, Turbin Durbin from Illinois….They all undermined this nation and politicized the war under Bush …now you don’t hear a peep of of those lowlifes ! Soldiers are still dying and NOW , NOT A SYLLABLE OR DEMONSTATION FROM A HYPOCRIT LIB ! Oh, I FORGOT THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZER IS NOW IN POWER MAKING A WAR BIGGER IN AFGHANISTAN. THAT IS WHY LIBS WILL LIE CHEAT< STEAL< and KILL THEIR MOTHERS TO ATTAIN P_O_W_E_R !!!!!!!
Look at those pudgy, old, rich bastards. You know they feel powerful when they hold their boomsticks like that. Fuck those fucks. If they want to be real men, they should be forced to go hunt bears… with knives. Fucking evil bastards.
[re=370793]coulterite[/re]: NOW WE’RE TALKING!!!!!!1!! YEAH!
BIRTHERS ???? YEH WE’RE BIRTHERS, and proud of it . At least we like to save our own unlike libs who rather save the afterbirth of OBAMA and throw away the fetus !!!! LOL’s !
[re=370796]coulterite[/re]: yawn ….
[re=370793]coulterite[/re]: For real? C’mon.
yeh , that’s right Smokie !!!! YOU LIBS SAVED OBAMA’s AFTERBIRTH and threw his carcass away in a hospital incinerator ! That’s what libs do …so far about 40 million since you lefty libs played GOD with ROE V WADE !!!!!!
[re=370758]2012_IsOurs[/re]: 2012 is ours??? Who says? Ensign? Sanford? Larry Craig? Huckabee? Sara-fucking.Mooselini? I am so sick and tired of IGNORANCE AS AN AMERICAN IDEAL FOR LIVING. You know what really annoys the Wing-nutz, Bitterz and Christ-tardz more than the fact that Hopey is Preznit? The fact that Teh Black Arab is articulate, intelligent and uses words that they don’t fucking understand.
Yay!!! Food fight. They’ve sent their best and brightest over to revile us with birther innuendos.
Just wait for the 2010 elections . Toomey tied in Pa right now against Spector …He was down by 20 points… Corzine going down in Jersey. All the states in Big Trouble run by Dems including a fake Republican in California by the name of Arnold !!!! Harry Reid also in trouble . Republicans make a comeback in 2010 ..thanks to Mr. EGO, Mr. Big Mouth , Mr. BLACK POWER, Mr. Hate Whitey the Taxpayer ……HUSSEIN OBAMA !!!!!!!!! He can’t help himself , the Big ears LIBERAL DAS KAPITAL SOCIALIST ! Just wait and see !
outa here ….Gotta take a shower after I debate UNCLEAN LIBS ! some other time !
Yeah, so this is going on here, meanwhile Gates and Crowley are over at the White House sitting on the porch with Obama watching the teenage girl next door wash her car, and going, “Hey, don’t forget the whitewalls!” and popping open another cold one for each other.
[re=370799]coulterite[/re]: Hey , Christ-tard asshole – get teh fuck back over to the Free Republic or Townhall. Rant all you want, loser – YOU LOST. After eight years of your weak shit, no one is buying anymore.
CAN’T WAIT, WILL SIT HERE AND AWAIT YOUR RETURN
Dude! You need more exclamation points!!! and CAPS!!! if you expect us to take your wingnut status seriously.
I hate it when Ken’s not around to BAN ON SIGHT.
[re=370803]coulterite[/re]: “Just wait and see !”, … I’m telling your Mommy.
…Doodle doodle dee. Wubba wubba wubba. Next!
[re=370796]coulterite[/re]: OH IM WITH YOU BROTHER . THESE SOCIALIST SLOBS DONT GET IT. CHENEY WAS MISUNDERSTOOD. WE WERE JUST WARMING UP IN THOSE LAST 8 YEARS. YOU NEED TO FAIL ALOT ALOT ALOT BEFORE THOSE BUSH TAX CUTS START KICKIN IN. FREEDOM AINT FREE, RIGHT!!!?
LIZ CHENEY 2012!!!
YOU’RE fucked libtards!
[re=370792]El Pinche[/re]: Seems it is ask & ye shall receive tonight. It’s not even a stereotype. All caps, exclamation marks, alternate reality, shouting defiantly with weak sauce and calling it a debate. It is to laugh. And undergirding it like size XXXXXXL shit-smeared briefs on a panniculus-enhanced inbred diabetic pennsyltucky redneck is the racism. Always the racism. Make your Klan brethren proud, coulterite.
[re=370812]hobospacejunkie[/re]: They can’t help it, and I don’t bother pointing it out. It’s like when my dog eats shit. I can’t lecture to my dog to stop eating shit. coulterite is a scat munching connoisseur . He’s the kind of asshole that quits his job because his new boss at Home Depot is black.
Can we go back to Dick-talk please.
Maybe this last 6 months of the Dick-fest, the ubiquitous Dick, the here-a-dick-there-a-dick, etc., is really to show, once and for all, that Dick was the stupid one. The Evildoer in the White House. Our poor Georgy W, he just was the tetherball gettin’ bounced around. Then Dick goes to his Mountain Retreat in the Tetons and gets his 6th heart attack and croaks. And all the rest of the Bushies are exonerated. Forever. The end.
Brought to you by the KOCAC: Keep Our Cheney Alive Campaign.
I never thought this would happen to me … Late night Saturday, getting ready for work. Get out of the shower.. turn on the puter… new post on wonkette… oh that’s nice. Drying off , I noticed 66 replies. I feel a warmth rush over my body… I wait, teasing myself until I get to work…could it be ? YES!!! GAWD!!! YES!!! A TROLL!!!
[re=370793]coulterite[/re]: Wow. I hadn’t thought of it, but now that you have put it that way, I understand why pissing on the Constitution while using false pretexts to launch a war of choice while avoiding a war with our real enemy makes sense. I can’t believe I let people fool me into voting for a black, foreign Muslim.
Come on Shorts. Fess up. Not even Republicans are this stupid…, at least those that can type.
[re=370815]the lady MS. Sheila Dixon[/re]: 2 trolls. Maybe we could put them in a pen and see if they spawn? Something to think about. For people with strong stomachs anyway.
[re=370814]Don Juanquete[/re]: I have to believe that at least part of Dickfest’s purpose, part & parcel of his clumsy & desperate attempts to rewrite history & snarl his way out of a Justice Dept investigation, is to launch his precious, dressed-like-a-grandmother, Baby Thatcher daughter’s political career. In the not-too-distant future we’re going to see a battle for leader of the Know Nothing wing of the republican party: Liz Cheney v. Sarah Palin.
We must destroy Buffalo in order to save it. Really, we must.
[re=370817]x111e7thst[/re]: Coulterite reads like shortsx3.
[re=370731]chascates[/re]: “And really, who would miss Buffalo? Just weathercasters.” Is that who eats all those wings?
[re=370707]Darkness[/re]: There’s more than one N-word I won’t speak. Most of my life, I have referred to him as The Prince of Darkness. And yet I, too, would choose him over Cheenee.
[re=370818]hobospacejunkie[/re]: Baby Thatcher!!! That’s the best. Mind if I borrow that?
[re=370822]Jukesgrrl[/re]: All yours. I live to serve.
I’d love for someone to turn ol’ Dick loose. Give me an hour in a room with just him, none of his guns or his Secret Service detail or his multiple draft deferments. See what a big man he is then.
Oh wait, the troll is gone already? Well then, carry on.
[re=370779]Johnny Zhivago[/re]: Are you kidding, Cheney/Rummy are so incompetent, we’d still be bogged down in Buffalo with no end in sight.
No, we’d be bogged down in Albany with no end in sight.
And maybe Springfield, Massachusetts.
[re=370803]coulterite[/re]: You can shower without melting?
I’ll bet that the real reason Junior and Condi nixed the idea was because Canada wouldn’t let them use Toronto as a staging area for the assault on the Al Buffalo lakefront terrorist stronghold.
[re=370827]Uncle Glenny[/re]: You have to understand that by “showering” coulterite meant she had found a local bum that would pee on him/her.
[re=370829]Lionel Hutz Esq.[/re]: I’d suspected something like that.
[re=370828]idiot son of an asshole[/re]: Retaliation for one of those trade spats, no doubt.
Hmmm. “-ite” is used as a suffix for the names of fossilized organisms. “Coulterite” must be a fossilized Coulter.
(Do I sound like I’m trying not to do anything serious?)
Coulterite: Troll Hard. Obviously a success.
Juli,
You’re winning this game my friend.
Sincerely,
KevoTron
I don’t know about these two clowns, but if I was anywhere near The Dark Lord when he was packin’, I wouldn’t be standing there like a sitting duck, and I sure as hell wouldn’t be smiling…
Damn. They left. Oh well, back to waiting for the snowbilly to tweet. Or work. Whatever.
At first glance I thought Dick was gonna go shoot some Buffalo or Injuns with that musket.
[re=370803]coulterite[/re]: You came here for a debate?
Win.
[re=370825]Uncle Glenny[/re]: Remember the Albany!
[re=370761]Suds McKenzie[/re]: The Original birth certificate. Not a copy.
[re=370711]Lord Growing[/re]: Buffalo attacks. Bomb Canada. Seems perfectly logical to me.
[re=370802]coulterite[/re]: D00D, bring the funny or don’t bring it at all. Borrow the etiquette of those libtard neighbors you so despise, for just an afternoon. You’d be amazed what subtleties you are missing about the world around you.
[re=370755]Hooray For Anything[/re]: I guess we can also thank Nixon for laying the groundwork for turning the Republican party into a regional party full of racist, thick-skulled, Christ fawners.
[re=370711]Lord Growing[/re]: Yeah, but those dirty ‘Nucks have earned it time and time again. I have only to point to the prolific number of Tim Hortons’ in Buffalo and the surrounding area to suggest that they have already made a preemptive strike.
Methinks I’ve said this before. Also.
Hell’s bells, I’d rather have the actual military of our country on the streets than those goons-for-hire, Blackwater types they brought in to bust heads at the last Republican National Convention. Give me the regular military over private, for-profit armies any day. At least with the military there are some constraining “rules of engagement” they are supposed to follow.
[re=370802]coulterite[/re]:
Short³. Show yourself!
[re=370816]Lionel Hutz Esq.[/re]: I agree…Coulterite is really Shortsx3 warming up over here before going off to tease the Redstaters.
[re=370765]iwillsavethispatient[/re]: I completely resent that remark. I was cynical well before 2000 and will continue to be cynical well after 2012 no matter the outcome.
It’s a way of life. Like drinking. It’s just that AMC made it socially acceptable to talk about it.
[re=370774]Lazy Media[/re]: O.K., I glanced at your site, and somebody obviously gone to a great deal of effort. The technical stuff is over my head, so I have to admit to the possibility that I could be wrong but, I DON’T THINK SO.
1) I remember hearing what Larry Silverstein said, and it was pretty clear what he meant. You can go back and parse the meaning of the word “pull,” which is what he did, but I remain convinced that it was an inadvertent confession, that he was quickly pressured into recanting.
2) He got a really sweet insurance settlement, very quickly
3) I wouldn’t put it past these bastards, for a second. If Dick Cheney was ready to send the army into Buffalo, he was ready to blow up a couple of buildings in downtown Manhattan. Can’t make an omelette without breaking a few eggs, after all.
4) If there was no conspiracy, then why did the Bush administration work as hard as they did at obstructing the investigation?
5) How many times, during his administration, did W visit elementary schools? If he’d been golfing or clearing brush, I’d have found it all more believable. It seems he was in a place calculated to give him maximum sympathetic effect.
6) I’m not at all buying the argument that this is just too complicated to have been a conspiracy, or why didn’t they do something simpler. If you had the president’s brother as head of building security, control (via Dick Cheney) of the executive branch of the U.S. government, access to the highest tech demolition equipment in existence, and plenty of right wing fanatics in the CIA who would agree with the PNAC wish for a “Pearl Harbor style event”, it doesn’t seem to me as if it would have been impossible. And why wouldn’t they have done something simpler? That sounds to me like an argument I heard (frequently) during the whole O.J. debate -a black man wouldn’t have used a knife, he’d have used a gun. Who the hell knows what goes on inside these people’s minds? (Also, I think Silverstein wanted the insurance money and that just dovetailed nicely with Cheney’s evil plans.
Also, I don’t think Coulterite is a troll at all. It’s not shorts, he would have been with the all-caps right off the bat, but I’m sure it’s one of our own.
[re=370774]Lazy Media[/re]: To invoke one of our great lost souls:
“George, so long, and thanks for using lube.”
Or some such.
[re=370855]gurukalehuru[/re]:
Could be Shorts³ mixin’ it up as to not appear as Shorts³.
Who the hell knows what goes on inside these people’s minds?
[re=370802]coulterite[/re]: Oh, this is fun. Because I actually like guns too, but dynamite even more, I’m gonna go fish-barrel dynamite fishing (which is the most satisfying way to do it; otherwise it’s tedious work that requires no skill and so much luck it just isn’t even funny; poker is actually more fun).
You want to throw down Dick as part of your posse? Fine. Name your numbers, maximum caliber, and starting distance. That’s the non-socialist anti-muslim (HUSSEIN OBAMA) way to do it right, isn’t it? Name your seconds and break out the SKS?
And ok, I know two verified SKS owners and they’re totally cool. In fact, I come off as slightly more conservative than they do, but all that does is prove that sanity isn’t divided on political lines. I mean, we have you, coulterite, throwing down on a satire website and wishing the commentor would get picked off by a former vice president that I don’t loathe nearly the way most of the locals do with a Tennessee Ninja longarm from the war of 1812?
You can’t be serious.
This is politics. I’ve experienced the angry right. I then experienced the angry left. Now I’m experiencing the angry right again. Little hint: you’re all morons. On both sides. Shut up, deal with policy and not ideology — because if anyone cared to look at it, there’s only one true political ideology left in the country and it has nothing to do with parties — and actually see if governance can still happen.
Wishing a former vice president would kill commentors on a satire website who happen to think you’re a moron for denying the president on false pretenses and criticizing the previous vice president is somewhere between pathological and legally threatening. More towards the former.
But please, in the future, don’t wave your Registered Republican{TM) card around here. So am I (technically). Suck it and shut the fuck up.
Unless this is actually still amusing, in which case go for it, but in my experience any non-Paultard thread tends to die about here.
I think the more that Dick Cheney opens his mouth the more that he implicates himself for chances of facing charges of International War Crimes by the International Courts in the Hague, Netherlands. Five Time Deferment Dick Cheney better not think that he is above the law of the United States or the International Laws such as the Geneva Convention and better realize that he will eventually be charged in the near future.
Dick Cheney and his PNAC cronies had wanted to even take out Saddam Hussein in 1998 when the sent a letter to then President Bill Clinton asking him to do so.
Source: http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm
Dick Cheney’s name may not be on the letter but he was a member of the PNAC at the time. The following is a list of members from the PNAC and it should be easy to recognize how many were on the Bush Administration.
Source: http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm Dick Cheney when he became Vice President used George Walker Bush as his dummy to line the Bush Administration with his cronies from the PNAC, even George Walker Bush’s brother Jeb Bush is a member of the PNAC and then one should fully understand how the moron got elected President as he took Florida otherwise he would have lost to Al Gore. As well Jeb Bush had used an outfit called DBT to erase the voter rights of 57,700 Afro Americans prior to the election by having DBT align their names with known felons from other parts of the United States and erase them from the voters list. When these Afro Americans came to vote on election day in 2000 they were unable to as their names had been removed from the voters list. This should be a sign that Jeb Bush should not be allowed to even run in Federal Politics as he is a total scumbag for having pulled this just to get his moron of a brother George Walker Bush elected.
As well how about the lies Dick Cheney created about Saddam Hussein having Weapons of Mass Destruction that he never did in the first place but Dick Cheney and the PNAC were doing the dirty business for Israel as well it should be known that about half the membership of the PNAC are Zionist Jews that hold dual citizenship for the US and Israel. As well how about when the planes that hit the Twin Towers were known to be off course and Dick Cheney knew and he did nothing about it, but when you are a treasonous scumbag like Dick Cheney you will do anything to fulfill the objectives of the PNAC as 9/111 was their Pearl Harbor to enact the beliefs of the PNAC.
[re=370855]gurukalehuru[/re]: Sigh.
I hate to write this much in a day. I really do. But come the fuck on.
There’s a motive. There’s an evidence trail. There’s a political ideology better served than a new Republican administration. There’s no evidence that AQ particularly survived the September 11, 2001 attacks, especially after the fall of the Taliban — except that it managed to radicalize a small group of muslims and a larger group that self-associates with the brand name.
Get your head out of the conspiracy literature and look at actual observers of Islam, both radical and normative.
Oh, and government pretty much implies obstruction. Especially when voiced by a bunch of lunatics who are so ideologically set that they can’t even consider the possibility that a stunned government might not act quickly except on immediate — albeit perhaps not the most important — issues.
And seriously, if the whole argument boils down to the fact that the government under Darth Cheney decided to plant explosives in the World Trade Center and frame AQ — and I guess also assassinate Mashoud for cover? — in order to invade Iraq for… oil…. Sorry. Take down Kuwait. Take down Russia (might have been easier). Take down Turkmenistan. Take down Sudan!?!?
Bombing a prominent American landmark and then slowly establishing a case to invade a country without that much oil with lots of it buried in regions that would have been accessible before is on the lunatic fringe. And the Bush administration was not lunatic and cold-calculating on the same time. The argument doesn’t and won’t stand up nomatter how it ends up being parsed.
And now I’ve attacked both sides. Makes me a moderate, right?
[re=370727]Dreadful Gate[/re]: The Dickster was no fool. Plenty of oil in Buffalo. It’s called 40 Weight and it runs rich thru the sewers, or maybe that’s the water system.
It’s great to see all the Special Ed. Libs getting disjointed and using their “CRETIN” Language to try and dismiss me . Shows that their HEAD START and Special ed. Programs just did not work for them while they were busy learning how to put a Condom on a cucumber in school ,instead of learning about the GREAT ONE …. Ronald Wilson Reagan and other great Conservatives of American History. YOU WERE TAUGHT NOTHING by your LIB comrades AND YOU KNOW IT YET …LIBOZOIDS ! Male Libs still like to go to bed with their Al Gore & Jimmy Carter Dolls and practice molesting them ! The FEMALE LIBS….. They play and molest with their Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pilosi dolls only to find that under their pant suits …… they both have a PENIS ! LOl’s ! Going after brain dead OBAMAITE LIBS is a smorgasborg of BLOODSPRORT for me !!!! GO AHEAD >>>>MAKE MY DAY !
[re=370859]morriso[/re]: You’re an insincere fuck. There were WMDs by the actually, you know, definition. Whether they were militarily available to the regime is moot.
And yeah, I think that Foxfire should have gone further. Sue me. Why do you not?
umm. I’ll back the fuck off now before the ban stick happens?
Also? Pandaginbuttsecks?
[re=370696]Canmon (the Inadequate)[/re]: We have a winner!
[re=370863]coulterite[/re]: You were doing all right above, but now you’ve shown your spoof troll hand. Your over-reach to explanation mark ratio was most convincing for a bit there.
[re=370863]coulterite[/re]: OOOH! OOOOH! MAKE MY DAY!!! READ MY LIPS!!! OOH!!! OOOH!!!
I’ve got better things to do right now like keeping my great income ahead of obama’s TAX INCREASES. I’ve told my broker ….hide the money , and invest where Capitalism still can thrive . Many of my friends are taking their money elsewhere where OBAMA can’t touch it . You libs ….can sink with this neophyte imitation of an AFFIRMATIVE ACTION PRESIDENT ! WE WON’T bye for now !
[re=370868]Wet Work[/re]: Don’t poke the hamster.
[re=370869]coulterite[/re]: GO GALT!!11 WE BEG OF YOU, AND TAKE TEXAS WITH YOU!!!1
[re=370869]coulterite[/re]: So are you saying that you are willing to engage in tax fraud in hiding your income. Sweet, maybe you could share a cell with Bernie Madoff and spend the rest of your life having buttsecks with him. Of course you would be catching not pitching.
In other news:
All mourn. Moosezilla’s last day.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5illexPZsCzzxjlIGyNHi67btTcjwD99M6N100
“Palin may host a radio or TV show, or launch a lucrative speaking career.”
Yes!
Later from the AP:
“She is scheduled to speak Aug. 8 at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in California, and has said she plans to write a book.” Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha …hack, cough, cough, cough, wheeze.
I love it when Righty Trolls basically announce, with pride, that they are nothing but smug, selfish, moneygrubbing, scofflaw assholes, who do not give one ghost of a shit about anyone else, or that the deeply-felt religious beliefs that guide their entire lives basically boil down to “I’M IN THE MAGIC JESUS CLUB, AND YOU *AREN’T*!!!”
I’ve known this about them for years, ever since I took my leave of Conservative and Christianist circles more than a decade-and-a-half ago.
Glad they come right out and admit it.
If the world really does “GO GALT”, like they’re hoping, it will be fun watching them trying to eat their precious piles of Krugerrands, or offering them to the hordes of looters their policies and “principles” will have created. The looters will refuse, of course, preferring the taste of fresh Fat Pampered Lazy Thieving White Guy flesh to the lure of Sparkly Shit.
I figure the *real* fun while start happening around the time they run out of ammunition.
I love that these are the guys who would crucify some kid for stealing a purse, or holding up a liquor store, but they’re happy to illegally hide millions of dollars, or ship their neighbors’ jobs to Crapistan.
ALL VERY LEGAL JOE MAC….I JUST DO WHAT OBAMA DOES AND ALL THE OTHER POLITICIANS Do . YOU DOn’T THINK THAT THEY WILL GET THE SAME LIMITED HEALTH CARE THAT THE AVERAGE US CITIZEN IS GONNA GET DO YOU ? ARE YOU THAT NIEVE JOE MAC ??? I GUESS YOU ARE BECAUSE FROM WHAT YOU SOUND LIKE , YOU ARE A GUZZLER OF THE OBAMA COOL AID DRINKERS SOCIETY . EVERYTHING I DO IS LEGAL . WITH OBAMA, EVERYTHING IS GONNA BE TAXED AND TAXED HARD . HE’s a TYPICAL LIB …SPENDING OTHER PEOPLES $$$$$ He’s gonna get very little of mine , as well as my friends . We are not going along with his government non growth policies !! This man is an absolute nut job socialist . Read his books , that’s all you need to do and who he hung around with all his life . look at his voting record , he’s a non ashamed SOCIALIST a la nelson mandella and Rev. Wright !!
Back on topic — Dick Cheney is playing a losing game. The evidence: every time he opens his mouth, whether to slef-aggrandize, defend himself or, this past week, attack W, someone inside leaks another piece of evidence which not only shows Dick in a bad light & implicates him in more crimes, but also (should) makes it clear, to Dick, that he cannot win and could actually lose rather badly. So far Dick doesn’t seem to understand that this is happening, which is bodes well for our future entertainment.
[re=370875]coulterite[/re]: Shorts?
Hey Iolenthe ….YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO MY MONEY just as I have no right to yours , if you have any , which is why you feel the way you do you lowlife lib ! Get out there and EARN IT BIG BOY ! PUT IN LONG HOURS AS I DO BIG BOY and earn your keep instead of still spunging off your parents , still living probably under their roof ! I give to my church honsomely where I know it does the most good , if you care as to how i choose to spend my money as well as other charitable causes such as cancer and heart research ,,,as well as the great old FOP , protecting dirt bags like the black racist Haaaaaaaaarvard african american studies lib prof !
typical Cheney: attack buffalo and leave San Francisco alone to add a Whole Foods to every corner.
@coulterite: To paraphrase you: “MINE!!! MINE!!! MINE!!!” Selfishness is your virtue; Profit is your sacrament. I remain unimpressed.
BTW, you don’t have very good reading comprehension, and you spell exactly like a 4th-grader. “Nieve”?????
“Spunging”???
I used to be one of you. I was raised in the “principles” of Conservatism. Far from living in the folks’ basement (difficult to do, as they’ve both been dead for quite some time, as they were born in the early 19-teens). That philosophy, as practiced today, leads to extinction. I’ve owned several homes and businesses, and I also learned to work very hard. Nowadays, I’m retired, so I mostly slave happily in my own garden … from which I give away most of the produce to the hard-working Latino families in the neighborhood just south of here.
You’re just a bitter stupid doomed shit, and funny only by accident. Even if you assholes do take back the government in 2010 or 2012, it will only accelerate the fall of the profit-worshipping society your ilk has created. I will give you Righties this: you are *EXCELLENT* at terrifying yourselves and others into voting for y’all. You’re excellent at spin, excellent at jerking the folks who are even more scared and stupid than yourselves into finagling a win on some election.
But every time you are in power, all you do is wreck shit faster. A few more cycles, and even the folks who currently adore Sarah Palin and Dick Cheney (thanks to your also-excellent brainwashing programs on AM Radio and Fox) will figure it out.
So – if you lie your way into government ascendancy again, nothing will improve, and it will just become harder for you to blame all the world’s ills on Obama, Clinton, and FDR.
There’s only so much ammunition, buddy, and people all over the world are getting tired of your shit.
YOU LIBS WILL NEVER TRULY UNDERSTAND THE GREATNESS OF CAPITALISM. It’s not perfect but it’s better than anything the socialists have tried and FAILED AT by the way , yet they continue to embrace it . AMERICA WAS BUILT ON YES, GREED AND CAPITALISM Some people choose to work hard and long hours , and be rewarded for their hard work, some choose not to work so hard and simply be satisfied with what they have . Then there are some who think that they are absolutely entitled to other people’s wealth and prosperity simply by saying , we’re gonna take it from you , well, that’s where I fight and draw the line in the sand . It’s “WE THE PEOPLE” , BUSTER BROWNS….not WE THE GOVERNMENT ! True Americans will fight back on this push towards socialism , they already are . Axs I Said 2010 is just around the corner. Our voices will be heard . This imitation of a President is living on borrowed time , he can’t help himself . He has a tremendous EGO …Bigger than BILL CLINTON , and that’s saying alot !
IOLENTHE … That’s why you sit where you sit , and I sit where I sit . And that’s the beauty of America where we all choose to live our one life on this earth and persure our own measure of LIFE LIBERTY AND THE PERSUIT OF HAPPINESS. LIBS …THEY DESTRoY LIFE (ABORTION), THEY ARE NOT FOR LIBERTY …. SOCIALISTS, HAPPINESS….YOU’re all miserable and envious of those who are happy…like me and my great friends ! I go out and live each day to the fullest in America ….It’s great .
[re=370881]coulterite[/re]:
From Salon;
“For example, Washington Post editors deride surtax proponents for allegedly believing “the rich alone can fund government.” Likewise, Wall Street Journal correspondent Jonathan Weisman wonders why the surtax “soak(s) the rich” by unduly “lumping all of the problems of the finances of the United States on 1 percent of (its) households.” And most brazenly, NBC’s Meredith Vieira asks President Obama why the surtax is intent on “punishing the rich.”
For his part, Obama has responded with characteristic coolness — and a powerful counterstrike. “No, it’s not punishing the rich,” he said. “If I can afford to do a little bit more so that a whole bunch of families out there have a little more security, when I already have security, that’s part of being a community.”
THAT asshole, is the fundamental difference betixt you and U.S…..
[re=370878]coulterite[/re]: I’m sure you are just ROLLING in the dough down there in Mommy and Daddy’s basement.
THEY DESTRoY LIFE (ABORTION), THEY ARE NOT FOR LIBERTY …. SOCIALISTS, HAPPINESS….YOU’re all miserable and envious of those who are happy…like me and my great friends ! I go out and live each day to the fullest in America ….It’s great .
Let me break this down. We destroy life. Y’all only protect life when it’s a fetus. After that, it’s Death Penalty and War, War War, baby.
Socialism is highways, teachers, fire departments and libraries, no freedom there!
If your so fucking happy, why are you, (poorly), at home on a Sunday arguing and trolling a “librul” site and not with your great friends living each day to the fullest, asshat?
Oh and hint? Hit “Reply”, idiot.
[re=370883]freakishlystrong[/re]: Oh come on, coulterite is kinda charming and sweet in a fucked up, wanna strangle kind of way.
[re=370886]idiot son of an asshole[/re]: I swear, little coulter is so over the top I think it’s one of us pulling our legs….
Oh yay, the troll came back! Too bad he’s so boring. Shorts, if that is you, you’re slipping dude.
In a healthy democracy, the people *are* the government, and the government is the people.
In a healthy democracy (or even a not-so-healthy one) the government at least has some charter to serve the people.
Corporations have no such compunction.
The only reason our too-powerful government is perceived as somehow “against the people” is because the corporations, which care only about short-term profits and their own shareholders, essentially now own the government. It’s simple corruption, a different form of the same kind of power-madness and corruption that ruined and brought down Communism.
Capitalism, like communism and socialism before it, contains the seeds of its own destruction, and we’re seeing it fall of its own weight right now.
What will come after? Probably bitter chaos for a time, and then, with luck, the survivors will eke out some sort of hybrid of the best of all the systems. Maybe humankind will get past the simple belief (articulated in your bombastic GREATNESS OF CAPITALISM hooey) that if *some* of something is good, then taking it to the farthest possible extreme will be *much* better.
Yes, since the fall of education (demonstrated amply by your spelling) and the death of critical thought (demonstrated amply by your statements of your philosophy) it might be fairly easy for you Righties to lie your way into winning another election or two.
But you cannot govern.
You fuckers can’t run *anything* except a fear-and-smear campaign.
Capitalism is over. It’s like the mighty image spoken of in the Book of Daniel: its feet are made of the worst clay, and they’re crumbling now. The image is tottering and falling.
Communism didn’t kill Capitalism; Socialism didn’t kill Capitalism: Al Qaeda didn’t kill Capitalism; Capitalism, as practiced by short-sighted greedy fuckers like yourself, is essentially committing suicide.
BTW, Jesus would have abhorred Capitalism. But you guys don’t read anything he actually *said*. You glom right on to a misinterpretation of remarks about Salvation, and totally ignore the weightier matters of the law: justice, mercy, and truth.
[re=370881]coulterite[/re]: You’re complaining about socialism? And you’re a Pennsylvania state trooper? That’s pretty funny, since law enforcement is organized on socialist principles, with all the taxpayers pooling together to provide a service even if they never use it. Firefighters are the same way, along with most other state services like trash pickup, sewer and water and all that other mundane daily stuff you take for granted. But congratulations on being one of us, even if you don’t acknowledge it.
Looks like someone stole mommy & daddy’s password & logged while mommy & daddy are working their 2nd jobs just to stay afloat. Our little Alex Keaton needs to work on his intentional humor, though.
[re=370863]coulterite[/re]: koo koo!!!
Dr. Ben Marble, famous on the youtube, should subcontact hisself out to Buffalo or wherever he’s needed, to repeat his anthem, “Go fuck yourself, Mr Cheney”.
[re=370863]coulterite[/re]: His middle name was “Wilson”?
[re=370885]freakishlystrong[/re]: God, I love killing fetuses. I was going to do that today after hitting the farmer’s market. Anyone want to come with?
[re=370848]Darkness[/re]: Sorry, the last of Conservative humor died in 2003 when P.J. O’Rourke said “Fuck it.” Anyway, it has been proven that all jokes are just people making fun of Trig.
[re=370865]jbd[/re]: Good times. Sigh.
[re=370869]coulterite[/re]: And, for “broker,” read “mother.”
Which brings the question, when did the Republican party and the Conservative movement get rid of all of its adults? Where once stood William F. Buckley and others, we get Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin, Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter and morans like this. Their only response to any problem is to: A) Bomb, B) Cut Taxes, C) Take ball, go home, D) Whine, E) Go GaLT! (admittedly, just a version of D), F) Say No, over and over again.
The interesting thing is that most three-year olds has moved pass B.
Double sigh.
[re=370881]coulterite[/re]:
True Americans will fight back on this push towards socialism.
All 28% of you? BTW, Heroic Defender of Doughnuts, as a member of your so-called Anti-Socialist movement, I think you should henceforth be denied any social security benefits, unemployment benefits (if you should loose your almighty job), access to any public parks, roads, bridges, and buildings, and you shall be required to reimburse the taxpayers for your education and training.
Take your fears elsewhere.
I actually feel bad for the Righties. It’s hard to live life when everything you believe is a lie. I’m amused and saddened by the memes that their Overlords propagate amongst them:
1. All Liberals are either Rich Demons like George Soros, or we’re poor folks on the dole who expect folks like coulterite to wipe our asses and give us their ATVs, or we’re young and stupid and living in Mom & Dad’s basement.
2. Whichever, we must be miserable and friendless, with no lives.
Meanwhile, I’d say we’re well-represented in the hard-working middle class, and even *better* represented in the professional and educated (engineering, law, medicine, education, etc.) upper reaches of the middle class.
As for young people, I know a lot of young people through my connection with the music industry and with the current young IT crowd. In my personal circle, comprising folks of all political persuasions, more young Paultards and Neocons actually live in the basement and sponge off Ma & Da than do young Liberals … who, being more reality-based and more inclined to get along with people, find it easier to get and keep jobs.
Throughout my near-six-decade life, I’ve moved in many circles, including Upper Crust Episcopalians, Nice Evangelicals, Batshit Crazy Evangelicals, Country Clubbers, IT Pioneers, Music Hipsters, Bohemian Kids, Classic Conservatives, Neoconservatives, Anarchists, Nannystate Liberals, Welfare Moms, Foundation Directors, etc.
And seriously, the *most* paranoid, jealous, and miserable groups, the most fearful, the *least* likely to have large social circles and fulfilling lives were:
- Batshit Crazy Evangelicals
- Neoconservatives
- Paultards
(and, to be fair)
- Obnoxious Superior Music Hipsters
- Excruciatingly Politically & Socially Correct Nannystaters
The poorest people had their serious issues with poverty, but they were *not* the most socially dysfunctional. Classic Conservatives and Nice Evangelicals fell somewhere in the middle. But nobody has more fun and larger more vibrant social circles than those Anarchists, God bless ‘em. ;->
Oh, hey, I’m sure you guys already discussed this in other threads, but I haven’t been around much lately, so just was wondering: what’s the deal with the Birthers? I mean, isn’t the argument that they are making sort of moot? Isn’t American citizenship bestowed upon anyone with at least one American parent, regardless of where they were born? Did that change, or was it different in the past?
[re=370875]coulterite[/re]: And you are hiding in a tax code written by right wing corporatist or as they are better know through out the world as fascist. You are willing to drive on smooth roads taxes pay for, or fly in a sky controlled by the FAA to get to a national park. You guys are just so selfish and greedy and when you get to the end of your life your estate will be able to buy you a great big gravestone: enjoy looking up at it.
I, too, am appalled that Cheney would consider sending U.S. troops to Buffalo, NY.
Whatever the problem was, it could have been handled safely and efficiently with a W-78 thermonuclear warhead, delivered by a standoff weapon.
(Nice rifle! But I hope Sgt. Crowley takes something with a little more firepower to his upcoming meeting with a deranged “academic” with an arrest record and a history of violent confrontations; and a so-called “community organizer” with links to Chicago innner-city criminal gangs . . . .)
[re=370882]coulterite[/re]: TONY!?!? is that YOU!?!?!
[re=370900]JoeMac[/re]: If the world GOES GALT, as these guys hope, coprolite won’t have a gravestone. His bones will end up in somebody’s kitchen midden, scattered amongst the melon rinds and cornhusks, marred by human toothmarks — some, possibly, from the teeth of other displaced fascists who saw him before he saw them.
[re=370899]AnnieGetYourFun[/re]: Hey Annie,
Apparently the law has changed many times with respect to whether being born in a foreign country to a US citizen (or two) automatically confers citizenship. I don’t know what the law was in 1961, nor do I care, since Barry was incontrovertibly born in Muslin Hawai’i. Nevertheless, I love the birthers, or more accurately the Birther Movement (BM), and I hope they stay solid through at least the mid-term elections.
[re=370858]jbd[/re]: Well said. A bit too reasonable and rational for Weekend Wonkette. But overall, a nice try.
Except that stuff about the SKS. Can’t agree there. But either way, here’s an investment tip for all: About five years ago, Romanian AK-47s were going for $379 in Prescott, AR. If you bought two, you got $10 off the second one.
As of last Saturday, however, the same rifle was going for over $900 in Los Angeles. The only difference was that the magazine release had been changed slightly. (By way of a “Bullet Button” release that makes such an “assault rifle” legal, even in California, as long as you use a 10 shot magazine. But the rifle still accepts the standard 30-round mag, if you need one to shoot up schoolyard full of kiddies.)
The lesson/conclusion: Buy “assault rifle” futures, and then vote for a Democrat. You’ll double your money. And if there is another market crash and the world ends, you’ll be able to make good use of any unsold inventory.
Okay, enough of this “Mad Money!” stuff. Back to this weekend’s meme:
KILL THE PIGS! FREE HUEY! POWER TO THE PEOPLE, AND ALL THE MONEY TO ME!!!
(No, wait a minute. That last bit just slipped out. Never mind.)
Why does everybody write such long comments on the weekends?
[re=370902]ladymacbeth[/re]: Nice!
[re=370906]gurukalehuru[/re]: ‘Cause we’re all sitting here chilling, with a coffee or a mojito or something, and there’s really no place else we have to be, or anything else we have to be doing?
[re=370906]gurukalehuru[/re]: “Why does everybody write such long comments on the weekends?”
Meth, obviously. But I’m only speaking for myself.
I get it from Ken L. He knows the location of most of the former chicken coops out in San Bernandio where they cook up the stuff. It’s everywhere: Last week the CHP wrote a ticket for 115 mph in a school zone.
No one knew that one of those desert tortoises could move that fast.
[re=370909]Neilist[/re]: Oh. You’re from the Inland Empire. That explains everything. Sorry, man.
[re=370902]ladymacbeth[/re]: An (ass)blast from the past..
[re=370905]Neilist[/re]: Nice to see you x-posting your dumbassery, because, why yes, asking police to act like professionals and “KILL THE PIGS” are clearly one and the same. Douchebag.
[re=370898]iolanthe[/re]:
I thing the Wing Dings just went to take-off power Friday, as their worst fuckin’ nightmare is coming true: A Repub wrecked economy is now showing signs of life under the diligent care of Nurse Blackguy, all the while he is revamping how we build transportation, how we provide healthcare, and how we use energy.
The childish screaming and foot-stomping will fall on even fewer ears come election time.
[re=370911]iolanthe[/re]:
aka “The Moron Crescent.”
[re=370914]Servo[/re]: I hope you’re right. But after 60 years, I’ve learned to Bet on the Stupid Path, because that’s the one Americans these days are most likely to take. Enough mainstream media crap about the birth certificate, and surprising numbers of moderates will begin to buy it. What’s Rove’s Law? Something about “repeat a lie five times and it becomes the truth”? Some of my dearest friends (who, if they stopped to think about it, would probably consider themselves Liberal) still thought Obama was a Muslim until 4 weeks before the election because they “heard it someplace”. In this economy, they’re pretty focused on their jobs, and so they picked up that meme from Fox or Talk Radio, by osmosis, while standing in line at the dry cleaner’s, or at the treadmill in the gym, or riding in the car with their parents.
The Palinistas et al may be able to trick, misinform, and wrangle their way into power for another cycle or two. If they do, we don’t have to “hope they fail”, they *WILL* fail. They always do.
I’d love to be wrong on this, to spare the planet and the human race four or eight more years of Neocon Mismanagement, now when it’s becoming increasingly important to start making better decisions for less selfish reasons.
We’ll see. If it works out your way, I’m buying you an entire pitcher of beer … especially if you bring Joel along. I always liked him better than Mike.
[re=370913]Advocatus_Diaboli[/re]: “Douchebag”? I thought your name was “Diaboli.” But if you prefer to sign with “Douchebag,” who am I to question?
[re=370911]iolanthe[/re]: Nay, not the Inland Empire. Although I love telling people I have a Superior Court appearance in RANCHO CUCAMONGA. (Reportedly founded by Guido Vespucci Douchebag in 1758. Or was it Guido Vepucci Diaboli? Those Eye-Talian names all look the same to me.)
KILL THE PIGS WHO ARE THE FACIST INSECT THAT PREYS UPON THE PEOPLE! FREE PATTY HEARST!
[re=370915]Servo[/re]: Yeah. There’s something in the water out there. As Neilist points out, usually it’s meth.
Perhaps the next time I encounter some Righty with a fantasy about what a “hard worker” he is, as opposed to the rest of us effete lounging liberal eunuchs, we should point out that “hard work” performed while spun on methamphetamine doesn’t really count. Someone always ends up paying somebody else to do whatever-it-is over afterwards, it seems.
Chemically induced Brownian Motion is *not* the same thing as “hard work.”
Is Free Republic down for service or something? The trolls are out enforce this week. I had to read this from a Dallas Observer blog post before I could decide if it was in earnest or not:
Mark McKillop says:
Senator Cornyn is a patiot and concerned about Americans! Unlike the Obama Fascists who are only concerned about their power over you! Please don’t be duped into thinking Obama cares about americans and their healthcare! No Way! All Obama wants is to be in CONTROL!! He wants the Banks, your doctor, and then he’s coming for your GUNS!! Hopefully when ACORN finally gets what it deserves, it will lead to OBAMAS IMPEACHMENT!!! We should be denouncing everything he does, cuz its all for one reason! COMPLETE GOVERNMENT CONTROL!!
SAY NO TO OBAMA FASCISM!! NO TO GOVERNMENT HEALTHCARE; NO TO CAP AND TAX!! NO TO BIGOTS LIKE SOTOMAYOR!!
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EVERYONE’S OFFENDED!
Obama Vaguely Apologizes To That Dumb Cop
Uh oh, Nobama has been gettin’ the business ever since he said those Cambridge Coppers acted STUPIDLY when they arrested the black guy in his house, for yelling. So here he is offering his unique Obamapology at today’s White House Press Briefing, saying he could have “calibrated those words differently.” Okay! Huh? It was definitely rather sloppy and STUPID of him to get involved in the case like that. Why even bother reforming health care, after this comment? [YouTube]
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SayItWithWookies says at 3:30 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
Doesn’t he know that apologizing makes America look weak? It’s like he’s not even listening to Sean Assity.
LittlePig says at 3:31 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
Man that pissed me off. Oh boo hoo, how terrible that the stupids got offended!
I lived through 8 years of President Retard, and I don’t remember his lyin’ Texas mouth ever apologizing for saying stupid shit, which he did every God damned day. But ho, Barack Obama, an actual smart person, says an accurate description of the incident, and he has to walk it back.
God damn I’m sick of having the country run for the benefit of its stupidest citizens.
queeraselvis v 2.0 says at 3:32 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
Cue Freeper howls for impeachment and pitchfork-and-torches militia to march on Washington in 3…2…
user-of-owls says at 3:33 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
They never told us in history class that Napoleon was actually defeated at Cambridge.
SpecialHorse says at 3:34 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
When will the man stop oppressing us whites?!
Suds McKenzie says at 3:35 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
can he incentivize his calibration?
ShaqsDong says at 3:36 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
Barry should have spent the first 58 minutes of his nighttime speech thingy making fun of white cops, THEN casually mention the need to fix health care soon at the very end. That seems to be the way to get the media’s attention.
ShortShadey says at 3:36 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
How can Obama continue to believe that the police overreacted in handcuffing Prof. Gates and taking him to the police station? After all, Gates is black!
user-of-owls says at 3:36 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
God damn I’m sick of having the country run for the benefit of its stupidest citizens.
Very straightforward solution: Jam all AM wavelengths.
finallyhappy says at 3:40 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
LittlePig: Also!!
snideinplainsight says at 3:40 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
I can just feel the health care reform inching away from reality bit by brutal bit, on the wings of stupid (STUPID!) stuff like this. I can hear the glee of little pitchfork-bearing conserva-demons as their fire-tinged laughter rings in the abyss.
Ya know, I hate to say it, but Mr. Obama is doing it wrong. If he wants to make his point on health care, don’t have a press conference in some chandelierred briefing room with brass fittings and tasseled swags. He should show up at any emergency room in downtown Baltimore at about 3am on a summer weekend night, and THEN hold a press conference about how health care is not working in America. OK, I’m done now.
RushLickBall says at 3:42 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
LittlePig: By the stupids, for the stupids.
Johnny Zhivago says at 3:43 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
Why does anyone care about an apology from an illegal alien, who’s about to get picked up by immigration at any second?
jasper f. krone says at 3:43 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
Toad, Fapper, et al. descended into Babel-esque babbling for half an hour, or so, all while I was trying to eat my lunch. BUT IS SGT CROWLEY BEING INVITED TO THE WHITE HOUSE, OR NOT?!?! CONTESSA BREWER NEEDS TO KNOW, RIGHT NOW!
A turkey sandwich never tasted so bitter and confused.
SpecialHorse says at 3:43 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
I’m hearing the cop’s defenders and the president’s detractors saying that Obama called the cop “stupid” but he actually said that he “acted stupidly.” This is a fairly large distinction that the right is happy to erase. But hey, at least they have something that fits into their narrative about which to get all hot and bothered.
shadowMark says at 3:46 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
Maybe they’d let Mischa Barton out of the nuthouse if she said she should have calibrated her words about razor blades and wrists a little differently.
Extemporanus says at 3:47 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
A black man just broke in to a white man’s press conference?!
Quick! Someone call 911!!1!
norbizness says at 3:47 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
I SMELL BACON
AxmxZ says at 3:47 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
“My lawn is bigger than your lawn” Obama.
kdaddy says at 3:50 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
All cops are stupid, all blacks are burglars. Tit for Tat we must now internalize.
bureaucrap says at 3:53 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
Obama should know by now that saying anything bad about any white person for any reason whatsoever (especially if true) is reverse racism.
Smoke Filled Roommate says at 3:54 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
Can a nigga make a speech on healthcare reform without having to apologize to the man for something totally unrelated? Sheeeeeet..
steve says at 3:55 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
The more I see of reporters acting like worthless shitsacks with our very competent preznit, the less bothered I am when Cheney or Palin declare the MainstreamMedia WashingtonElites are a bunch of worthless shitsacks.
Native of SL UT says at 3:56 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
If the cops arrested Sean Insanity for breaking into his own house after showing ID, they would have been acting stupidly too. Course that’s the kind of stupid I can live with.
Nappied Hypotenuse says at 3:56 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
At least he can invite everyone over for a beer. W was forced to invite everyone over so he could watch them drink while he got angrier and angrier and angrier. What with being a dry drunk, y’see.
slappypaddy says at 3:59 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
Overreactions occurred. Fragile police ego collided with fragile professor ego, international event ensued. Former Illinois state legislator steps into fray, is reminded that he has a different job title now, and that a sledgehammer, even carefully applied, can be a damned tricky tool for opening a peanut. Still and all, this president guy is so thoughtful, even-tempered, intelligent and just plain decent, I cannot help but wonder how he came to be president of this crumbling empire putrescent with discontent. He must have been born someplace else, perhaps in the magic island kingdom of Sawa Iki, fabled land to the west.
RoscoePColtraine says at 3:59 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
Three plain, irrefutable facts help with understanding this whole brouhaha.
1) ALL people who endeavor to be cops are sadistic.
2) ALL people of African-American descent who are intellectual and endeavor to teach at Harvard are uppity and quick tempered.
3) ALL people who endeavor to be President of the USA are egomaniacs and right about everything.
We were sitting on a powder keg which has now exploded all over our tee-vees.
McDuff says at 4:04 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
Obama invites Skip Gates and Sgt. Crowley to White House for talks, beer.
White House spokesman Robert Gibbs describes the planned session as “practice” for upcoming Arab-Israeli peace talks. Gibbs stated, “What could be harder than getting a white cop to admit that sometimes “contempt of cop” should just be ignored and to get a successful black man to admit that some “contempt of cop” arrests are not racially motivated? After that, peace in the Middle East is easy.”
Hooray For Anything says at 4:05 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
Well, we might not get health care after all, but we HAVE had a teachable moment about race relations and whether arresting people for breaking into their own homes is worthy of being arresting. I call that an even trade off.
hobospacejunkie says at 4:05 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
SpecialHorse: After seeing the arrogant cop talk on the teevee my unemployed but educated ass feels entitled to call him stupid. Stupid for revealing he did not vote for Obama, for making it clear he didn’t vote for That One, that he sided with the nuts and the racists and thought Sarah Palin should be anything more than a grease stain on the laundry of American history. He may not be dumb, but he is stupid, and he did arresr Gates for being black in America. If Officer Stupid wasn’t wrong in arresting Prof. Gates, why were the charges dropped so quickly?
WhatTheHeck says at 4:05 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
Saying the police acted stupidly was neither smart nor accurate.
What he should have said was the police were fucking imbeciles.
That would have satified everyone.
Native of SL UT says at 4:07 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
All this hoopla over the “stupidly” comment?
I thought for sure we would be talking endlessly about the Secret Service shooting the Negro busting into the back door at the White House joke instead.
Min says at 4:07 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
You know, when Barry’s all calm and reasonable like that, he sucks the fun right out of the room.
forgracie says at 4:08 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
RushLickBall: Our new motto!
S.Luggo says at 4:09 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
ShortShadey: And a fucking cripple. God-damn, I do hate them uppity gimps.
Bearbloke says at 4:09 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
snideinplainsight: WIN! Brilliant idea, except that it goes against the whole “no drama Obama” thing, but I think we can put that aside for something this important, no?
Also, I must agree that Mr. Obama has far more important things on his plate that getting tripped up in that Gates clusterfuck – he’s got THE SOCIALIST PROGRAM to advance, people!
JSDC007 says at 4:10 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
You gotta have a bunch of jackbooted thuggish imbecile dullards in gaudy fascist uniforms as your friends these days.
Look what happened to El Presidente of El Salvador.
Barry’s learning fast.
SeminoleInDior says at 4:12 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
I don’t know about any of y’all, but I don’t want to be defended by a cop that demands an apology for getting his feelings hurt. Fucking pansy. Walk it off!
That said, I think my utter dislike for cops (and all authority, really) is starting to show. I can’t even pass a Chicago cop without wanting to flip the bird, and I’ve never been pulled over by them. It’s based purely on the behavior of turning on their lights and sirens just to get through a busy intersection. Show me an honest cop, and I will show you the end of times.
chascates says at 4:15 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
Arresting a guy on his own property for acting ‘uppity’ is acting stupid. FUCK THE PIGS!
Bearbloke says at 4:16 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
WhatTheHeck: Is that why the ‘outro’ music to this presser was NWA’s “Fuck Tha Police”?
Bearbloke says at 4:16 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
WhatTheHeck: Is that why the ‘outro’ music to this presser was NWA’s “Fuck Tha Police”?
problemwithcaring says at 4:20 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
SeminoleInDior: Cop Demands Apology from Obama, Claims Will ‘Never Apologize’ for Own Actions.
HolyCow says at 4:24 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
I’m sorry. The cop is an idiot and deserves not apology.
twowheeljunkie says at 4:25 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
Here’s a teachable moment.
Quit pounding your hand on the lectern.
Man that was annoying.
I demand an apology.
Hooray For Anything says at 4:25 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
snideinplainsight: I agree it is a brilliant idea– especially as I’m hammering through the entirety of the Wire– but I think you’re overestimating the amount of interest people have in what happens to poor black people
WadISay says at 4:32 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
snideinplainsight: He might as well apologize for the rest of the press conference, while he’s at it.
marioninnyc says at 4:37 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
I was mad at him for not pushing for single payer, and dissing the gays, and Gitmo still being open, and Cheney not being indicted, and the wars in Afganistan and Iraq and all that, but whenever he talks to me like an adult I just melt. He can be my boyfriend again.
Humpback says at 4:39 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
slappypaddy: This is the best comment on the incident I have seen anywhere.
Neilist says at 4:42 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
“Acted Stupidly” = “Failed to (1) draw service pistol and fire 10 rounds into center of mass; (2) drop cheap and untraceable throw-down gun near deceased perp’s hand (ideally, close of Harvard Class Ring); (3) clear story with fellow officers before IA/Officer Involved Shooting Team arrives to take statements; and (4) failed to stand said fellow officers to round of drinkies at local cop bar for having survived such a life-threatening ordeal.
(You know, a complete failure to follow LAPD processes and procedures.)
Gotcha!
MzNicky says at 4:45 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
Meh, it was an “apology” in the “I’m sorry if what I said was taken the wrong way by your dumb ass” way. Then President Mr. Cool proceeds to be all smoothy-overy and appropriately conciliatory in his patented, way-presidentialy manner. A shruggy-shouldered “yah, whatever” and it’s lemons-into-lemonade time. Ends up offering to make nice with everyone over beers at the White House, yet gets the “mine’s bigger than yours” dig in with that adorable twinkle in his eye. Sweet Jeezus I love this guy!
The man’s a grown up. We’re just not used to it yet.
simetrias says at 4:46 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
AxmxZ: Hey, and both his lawn and Skip’s are rented? Coincidence?
PuffAdder says at 4:48 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
Welcome to the office of the POTUS, Mr Obama.
simetrias says at 4:50 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
Nappied Hypotenuse: Beer? Skip prefers Pinot Noir, s’il vous plait. Would Barry have said “beer” if Skip were white and the cop were a millionaire? Or if Skip were poor and the cop was biracial? Or if Sarah Palin just finished her last day in the government’s employ? C’mon, let’s get off Skip for a while. Yo mama already did….
dave666 says at 4:53 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
when will Gates show us his birf certificate
blackarachnia says at 4:53 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
ok so they (gates, crowley obama) all get to stroll through the rose garden sipping beers
at which point the AfterSchool Special Music fades in as the image fades to black…
That’s Entertainment!
slappypaddy says at 4:54 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
Humpback: Thank you, kind person. I raise a glass to you.
problemwithcaring says at 4:55 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
chascates: Concur with the fucking of said swine. The side-by-side of Obama and the stupid cop on the LATimes.com home page is beyond comical. So now Obama’s statements are equivalent to the actions of an overreacting racist?
June Cleaver 2.0 says at 4:56 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
Obama has the skills of a lead singer ala Old Motown. He always brings it back to the mike. He will have good whitehouse pics of “Skip,” the cop, and the Prez. Everybody smiling and drinking together.
Hooray For Anything says at 4:57 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
Bearbloke: I thought it was “Cop Killer?”
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sezme says at 5:01 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
“Acting stupidly” is when a white cop forgets to plant a bag full of dope in a black guy’s house.
But seriously, how can one man (Barry) be so classy? Is he even human?
Also, he’s just luring the cop to the white house with beer in order to enslave his stupid ass.
jokahmon says at 5:02 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
FFF Tha Police -
comin straight from tha underground -
cambridge professah can’t get wit it cuz he’s brown. . . .
MzNicky says at 5:06 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
blackarachnia: “as the image fades to black…” ??? BLACK? Why not whitey-white?! What are you, some kinda reverse racist?
desertwind says at 5:08 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
Ugh. The second he answered that question (with what, it’s pretty obvious, he actually thinks) I thought: uh. oh.
Why why why did the silver tongued devil not use the word “unfortunate”? Or brush off it off with a smooth smile?
Oh, hell. Nobody wants to talk about health care — it’s too complicated and boring. This stuff is much more sexayer.
TGY says at 5:15 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
As a nation, we are obviously too retarded to have a smart president.
agitpropster says at 5:18 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
OMFG am I gettin’ a Bill Hicks moment here. I’ll paraphrase Saint Bill from his riff about the Simi Valley acquittals of LAPD Officer Coon and Officer Keepdarkydown that started the LA riots:
…and the cop’s name was Jim Crowley. Is life fucked up or what?
Toomush Infermashun says at 5:23 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
I eat breakfast with a bunch of old white guys….our 90 year old liberal leader, a WWII bomber pilot, suddenly came out this morning with a bunch of ” someone is going to have to back these aggressive, loudmouth black folks back down”… WTF is going on here? My new (black and very paranoid) neighbor, in our old once Polack neighborhood, doesn’t want to talk about race stuff, just keeps on saying “you know where I’m coming from…” as if it were because he’s from Delaware… I don’t have the heart to tell him I used to drop acid with Black Panthers in 1972, because they were the ONLY black folks brave enough to do that kind of thing….somebody (SOMEBODY) is going to have to start saying something other than…”well, this is a teachable moment…” Oh, yea, and single payer is the only way to have any kind of medicine we can afford…except cuba libres….
gurukalehuru says at 5:33 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
Supercalibration is semantically precocious.
trickyrick says at 5:51 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
agitpropster: amazing! yet spooky at the same time.
jasper f. krone says at 5:55 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
Hooray For Anything: Nah, that was Ice-T/Body Count. Totally different vibe.
Tundra Grifter says at 5:59 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
user-of-owls: Why yes, the Battle of Waterloo was won on the yards of Harvard.
Holding Out for a Hero says at 5:59 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
” Whether I were black or white, I think that me commenting on this and hopefully contributing to constructive — as opposed to negative — understandings about the issue, is part of my portfolio so jump up my ass”
Ok, I added that last bit.
I do love it when Barry gets all “I’m the President, bitches”.
marioninnyc says at 6:00 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
slappypaddy: so you’re a birther, then?
Tundra Grifter says at 6:09 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
This whole sorry incident could have been avoided if Prof. Gates had simply shown Sgt. Crowley his birth certificate.
Just like those whackoos in Waco would still be alive if they had just come out with their hands up.
From Leah Garchik’s column in the San Francisco Chronicle (July 22, 2009):
“A member of the cast of ‘Porgy and Bess’ stayed with a Pacific Heights friend during the opera’s run here. One night when the singer, an African American [duh!], was parking, a local woman emerged from her house, approached and demanded to know why she was there. She was visiting her ‘mother,’ the singer joked, employing the term she and her pal jokingly use. ‘I’m her houseguest.’
“The next night, when the singer lingered in her car making a phone call, the woman apparently summonded police, who drove up and asked what she was doing there. When she went inside and reported this to her host, the singer burst into tears. Friends and other neighbors are mortified.”
Just ask Smokey Bill Robinson – don’t mess with the SFPD. Ask Joe Morgan – don’t mess with the Huston airport police.
This isn’t news in America…
slappypaddy says at 6:53 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
marioninnyc: i’m a cat in a cardboard box
Extemporanus says at 7:02 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
gurukalehuru: A spoonful of sugar for you!
smellyal8r says at 7:16 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
I dunno. Every time I see HL Gates on teevee, he’s ranting and raving and being kind of an a-hole. I suspect the cop had heard enough and finally slapped the cuffs on him. When I listened to the cop’s side of the story (and, granted it was in front of his union rep) it sounded like he did everything he could to shut this guy up, gave him more than a few warnings (and more than I as a white man would have gotten from a cop — black, white or otherwise — here in Texas). Gates didn’t even have an ID that showed it was his house! Anyone who is hollering “don’t you know who I am” and “you’ll be sorry”…well, they tend to get what they deserve.
That said, did the first African American Preznit need to weigh in? Probably, but it could have been a little more artful: “I wasn’t there. I’m sure the local authorities and Professor Gates will work through these issues…next question”. I mean, he’s not the Mayor of Cambridge (or Boston), so, ’nuff said.
I-man says at 7:20 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
When he said that the police acted stupidly in arresting Gates and refusing to backdown from the principles of that statement is proof positive that he isn’t totally devoid from the black experience as the MSM likes to propagate. I hope it isn’t too churlish to hope that Crowley’s beer is flat and warm, that asshole deserves it.
Extemporanus says at 7:37 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
Tundra Grifter: And yet, had she been staying a mere 10 blocks away in my entirely respectable neighborhood, such an incident likely never would’ve happened. In fact, for over a year now, a 50-year old black man has been living in a beat-up old Chevy Suburban that’s parked 24/7 right in front of my apartment. During this time, he has never had the cops called on him (according to the last time we talked), despite the fact that he occasionally blocks our driveway, and the convalescent center next door (and park/businesses at either end of the block) means a steady stream of people visitors from other parts of the city (and tourists) walk past him 24 hours a day.
This isn’t news in America either, but not in the same way that your example isn’t news (i.e. surprising). It isn’t news, but perhaps if it were, the type of people who reduced that singer to tears (and others to much worse) would be forced to re-examine—and hopefully adjust downward—the need for, and extent of, their own prejudices.
Alright, I gotta go. The deliver boy from Pancho Villa’s just arrived, and I’m starving. That fucking spic took forever!
lawchic says at 7:45 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
smellyal8r: I’m really glad that this episode revealed that a) many people will unquestionably take a police officer’s word over that of a citizen even though said officer has a good reason to fudge facts and cover his ass; and b) people believe the government has the power to arrest you for simply being an asshole and speaking loudly in your own home or on the porch of your home (hint, hint — they do not).
I don’t take at face value the officer’s version of events or Gate’s. I think there is truth in both of their statements. But even if I were to take the officer’s version of events at 100% face value, he still abused his authority. He still demonstrated that he lacks the professionalism and people skills to shrug off insults and walk away even though he is the one with the legal responsibility to do so. That may not trouble you, or others, but it troubles me; the fact that a cop can restrain my liberty because I was being too “annoying” troubles me. Gates could be the worse asshole that ever lived, but I will defend his first amendment right to speak out in protest if he thinks he is being mistreated, or if he just wants to mouth off. I would also defend his fourth amendment right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures by law enforcement.
that’s just me.
BlueStateLibtard says at 7:58 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
ShaqsDong: I would have definitely tuned in to that! Multiple references to their fat white Dunkin’ Donuts bloated bellies…and I’m white. But I hate cops.
Neilist says at 8:10 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
lawchic: “[The cop] still demonstrated that he lacks the professionalism and people skills to shrug off insults and walk away even though he is the one with the legal responsibility to do so.”
Oh, really? Tell me, “lawchic,” where is THAT proposition written down? It is somewhere next to “Black Harvard Academics Get To Act Like Assholes Without Fear Of Consequences” statute?
[And what "fourth amendment" right was implicated? Or are you throwing that in just for the fun of it? As to the First Amendment, you apparently were dozing when the exceptions for "fighting words," etc. were discussed.)
I remember a comment from the 1970s: A "Law Enforcement Liberal" is a Conservative who has not been mugged yet. I dunno if that is true, but I do know that most civilians have no idea what policing requires, and could not perform to the standards to which they try to hold law enforcement.
I was at a Shakespeare in the Park production on Saturday night (being put on by a company run by friends of mine), during which "the pigs" had to remove a drunken/demented street person at the interval. After I warned her, very politely, that if she didn't quite down, and stop using profanity in front of some kids who were seated directly in front of her, that I was going to radio it in.
The three "pigs" who showed up escorted her out, and then did a standard Field Interrogation.
As the audience was filing back in, I overheard a couple of them complaining about the poor street person being harassled. One of them comments, "Those cops don't even read Shakespeare."
I imagined the speaker being raped and strangled, slowly, by a drunken boyfriend/husband, while the responding unit stopped for donuts. And a copy of the Cliff Notes on "Henry V."
As the prep went "Once more into her breach, dear friends!"
The image amused me for the rest of the performance. Even during the stupid courtship scene in the last act, which I have never liked.
The most logical explanation, consistent with the uncontraverted facts, is that Gates acted like an asshole, despite warnings, and suffered the typical consequences. But he's happy: He now can play martyr/victim for several news cycles.
Let's hope that he doesn't plan to picket the local production of "Othello."
[What's next? The old "Why didn't they shoot the gun out of his hand" accusation? Or something more original?]
Extemporanus says at 8:59 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
Neilist: The day it becomes illegal for a person to act like an asshole in their own house, is the day we might as well burn our collective houses down.
Police officers: I’m sympatico with much of what you say, but the bottom line is that in this case, the arresting officer knew almost immediately that Gates was the lawful resident of that house and that there was no B&E in progress. Who cares if Gates was yelling at him—it should’ve gotten harder to hear by the second as he walked back to his patrol car. By remaining in the room and trying to get Gates to come out on the porch to construct a more solid arrest scenario (”public nuisance + disorderly conduct” vs. “loud and tumultuous behavior”), he escalated the situation. Police are trained and paid to de-escalate the situation. Most cops are amazing at doing so, and I strongly believe that it’s the most important tool in their arsenal. When they lack that tool…well, that lists is rather long.
Gates: Very likely did act like an asshole, though hardly without reason. However, he was in his own home, so unless he was threatening or perpetrating physical violence on the police officers or himself, they should’ve allowed him to act like an asshole all by his lonesome. Also regarding the whole “play martyr/victim” comment, who have you seen on TV the most the last three days: Gates and his lawyers and official Harvard faculty representative, or Crowley and his lawyers and the police union reps and their lawyers?
Plenty of nails & wood to go around. Though something tells me that the conservatives will end-up hogging most of it.
Magnus Maximus says at 9:18 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
When I initially heard of all this, my reaction as a socialist commie was, “DAMN RACIST COPS!” But I have to admit, the more I learn about it, and turn it over it my mind, the more my thinking falls roughly in line with smellyal8r and Neilist’s comments.
That being said, if Gates really was arrested just for being an uncooperative asshole, it raises the question of when that is appropriate. Neilist, your story, while amusing, doesn’t seem exactly equivalent to the few things we know about the Crowley/Gates incident. The police clearly acted appropriately there, since citizens have a right to be able to enjoy their play in peace and without vulgar disruptions. But you were in public, and not in a private residence. Did Crowley suspect that Gates was lying, that he wasn’t really a homeowner who had come home to a stuck door? If so, he had good reason not to just leave. However if, as has been reported, Crowley wanted to search the house to make sure no one ELSE was there, that seems a little odd to me. After all, if he accepts that gates is the homeowner, then it logically follows that he ought to accept his explanation of the call — namely, that he had to force his way in because the door was swollen shut. This would seem to preclude any need to search the house.
Anyways, I haven’t made up my mind yet, but I’m definitely leaning toward the “asshole” narrative and not the “racism” one. Should be interesting as we (hopefully) get more information in the days to come.
meyotch says at 9:48 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
Extemporanus: Good take on the situation. The facts of the case are pretty simple.
The officer responded to a call that turned out to be bogus.
A good cop lets the story end there. I’m sure that happens every day in every city.
A bad cop (or a good cop with the bad luck to get caught in a perfect media-storm on a bad day) pushes the envelope and messes with a person in their own house for no just cause.
Didn’t we have a revolution where one of the major popular motivations was intrusions into private homes by police or their (para-)military equivalent? Some wonk(ette) enlighten me.
Wikipedia can’t hold my attention cuz this weed is frickin’ awesome!
Extemporanus says at 10:00 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
Magnus Maximus: That was well-stated appreciated.
One thing, though: I think the “Gates=asshole OR Cop=racist” narrative formulation is overly strict. It’s entirely possible that racism played no part in the police officer’s decision to arrest Gate. The cop might have just acted like an asshole and decided to arrest someone in their own home who was making unfounded, racially loaded accusations.
Without having yet heard the tape recording of the arrest, I feel like kind of an asshole even speculating, so I’m going to shut up and go get drunk now.
Extemporanus says at 10:03 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
Extemporanus: That should read “well-stated AND appreciated.”
My weed is frickin’ awesome as well. (Thanks meyotch: !)
smellyal8r says at 10:12 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
Magnus Maximus: This is interesting, no? The President (and all the other folks who think regularly about this kind of thing) have wanted a “conversation on race” for some time in the last 20 years. Get us. We are having it. This isn’t about assholes being arrested in their own home (were that the case, my old man would have spent most of my teens in jail). It’s about some cop who responded to a potential b&e and happened to come across Professor Gates who is able to attract his own media. I suppose if he had it to do over again, the policeman would have left. But now President Obama has accused him of bad police behavior and escalated this story. I think Obama (who I love) is learning that he has a mighty large megaphone. Methinks a month at the Vineyard and off TV might be a good prescription.
heathenish says at 10:16 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
userofowls: go get those AM airwaves, that would be great!
Extemporanus says at 10:40 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
smellyal8r: The dude does have impeccable timing, doesn’t he:
1. “The police officers acted stupidly.”
2. “My words were poorly calibrated, but that shit was still kinda messed up, right?”
3. “Later beyotches! Y’all better have this beef quashed by the time I get back!”
Neilist says at 11:07 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
Extemporanus: Well, according to the MSM, Gates has a HISTORY of VIOLENCE!!!!!
“NEW YORK – Decades ago — long before Harvard, long before his books and documentaries — Henry Louis Gates Jr. and some friends nearly set off a brawl trying to integrate a West Virginia club.”
Sgt. Crowley and the rest of Cambridge’s Finest were lucky to get out of there alive!!! If you don’t believe me, look at this next-door-neighbor video footage that was aired on Fox News earlier today:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1csr0dxalpI
Neilist says at 11:11 pm, July 24th, 2009 – Reply
Oh, and I loved the “brawl” for trying to integrate an all-white country club.
But then again, Fox News is advertising a historical special about how all Martin Luther King, Jr. and all his vicious ilk attacked all those police dogs in Selma, Alamaba back in the day.
Terrified the poor little pups, reportedly. Someone should have called PETA.
MGBYG says at 12:08 am, July 25th, 2009 – Reply
Neilist: FOX noise footage? You have lost the thin line of credibility you imagined you had. Sorry to hear you are white and losing your grip on the reins…
Extemporanus says at 1:51 am, July 25th, 2009 – Reply
Your unsourced news report of Dr. Gate’s Civil Rights Movement-era nearly-brawl (did the all-white country club have a pool?), and bravely-recorded Iranian Revolution-esque YouTube video of Dr. Gate’s bloodthirsty, bone-in-their-nose black brethren (did he chuck his cane at the cop like a spear?) has really opened my eyes!
Thank GOD that you survived the nearly-race riot that ruined your friend’s recent “Shakespeare in the Park” production (was it The Taming of the Shrew?) so unnecessarily! Thank GOD that you were able to “radio it in” (were you working security, or did you use your CB radio?) before hoses & Dobermans were unleashed! Thank GOD that the incident provided you with such richly detailed rape fantasy (it was a fantasy, right?) fodder!
Thank GOD that you have given me absolutely no reason to regret having replied to your original comment in such an unnecessarily open-minded and even-tempered manner!
Thank fucking GOD!
hobospacejunkie says at 1:56 am, July 25th, 2009 – Reply
lawchic: Well said. Thank you. How anyone can defend the arresting cop is beyond me, but I don’t have the energy to shout them down each time one inexplicably pops up here. I haven’t read the rest of the comments yet, but I suspect yours is the first of many to push back on smellyal8r.
Neilist says at 2:22 am, July 25th, 2009 – Reply
Extemporanus: “Thank fucking GOD!”?
God is dead. Didn’t you get the memo?
A bunch of liberals with no sense of irony killed Him.
Or Her.
Or It.
Whatever.
(And it was “Henry V.” Hence the “into her breach” reference.
Perhaps I should have said, “a bunch of illerate/ill-read liberals with no sense of irony . . . .”
PRAISE JESUS! And that other Mexiskin guy who does the gardening.)
Extemporanus says at 2:25 am, July 25th, 2009 – Reply
Extemporanus: In case it wasn’t painfully obvious, that was in reply to Neilist: and Neilist:, plus a few others.
Commenting is sooo complicated!
hobospacejunkie says at 2:34 am, July 25th, 2009 – Reply
Well, now I’ve read the rest of the comments. Not exactly what I expected. Some of you people surprise me. Let’s see if I can state this clearly: a human has a right to be an asshole, call a cop a racist, be left alone in his own home.
The cop had no reason to suspect a crime was being committed after it was established that Gates was in his own home. The cop had a clear desire to impress and affirm his authority over a shouty black man when the cop should’ve been de-escalating the situation.
Finally, the ultimate proof that the cop acted “stupidly,” and overstepped the boundaries of his authority, is the fact that the charges were dropped within four hours of the arrest. If the cop acted entirely appropriately, why were the charges dropped? Why wasn’t the cop backed up by his prosecuting D.A.?
This seems to be the unspoken subtext to the president’s remarks. Obama remarked, upon the “stupidly” acting cop, confidently because all the evidence he needed was already in — the charges had been dropped. It was obvious to Cambridge PD’s attorneys that there was no crime to prosecute.
Extemporanus says at 2:53 am, July 25th, 2009 – Reply
Neilist: In the spirit of our newly-elected President, I’m replying with an toward elevating shared beliefs, and bridging minor differences:
1. Not only is God dead, God was never alive in the first place. (I was being ironic)
2. Liberals with no sense of irony do indeed kill things (see #1)
3. As I did not explicitly note your Henry V vaginal(?) rape reference, I can understand why you might have been lead to assume that I was an “illerate[sic]/ill-read liberal.” (I was alluding to the subduing of the rabble-rousing homeless woman)
4. I sometimes try to speciously elevate inconsequential details when confronted with a personally unpleasant, yet substantively sound, critique of my argument. (”God”, Shakespeare, ironic racism)
We should have a beer sometime. You can drink it “ironically” while I pretend to give a shit.
Extemporanus says at 3:24 am, July 25th, 2009 – Reply
Extemporanus: Just so as there’s no confusion, “I’m replying with an toward” was a subtle, grammatically-maimed allusion to the ancient judicial concept of “taking an eye for an eye”, as exemplified by the tit-for-tatting betwixt me and the esteemed Kneelist.
I’m totally (ironically?) serious.
Smoke Filled Roommate says at 3:44 am, July 25th, 2009 – Reply
Extemporanus: All is good, then. Carry on with Neilist.
LoweredPeninsula says at 3:45 am, July 25th, 2009 – Reply
Hobo and lawchic,
Seeing you guy’s thoughtful take on this gives me a lot of hope. I can’t tell you how depressed I’ve been watching freepers and the ignorati construe a comment like “they acted stupidly” to mean “why does Obama hate Real American, white police officers?” At the end of the day, Gates got pissy but and the cop got even more pissy, and in this kind of relationship the responsibility is on the officer, not the belligerent, to diffuse the situation and handle it in a more adult and professional fashion. Crowley DID act stupidly; it’s just that simple. Gates can act stupidly; he’s in his own home and he’s not on the job; the cop can’t afford to act stupidly while on his job.
BTW, I was willing to simply assume that race wasn’t involved in the arrest given that Gates’ accusations were really kind of baseless, but when I saw Crowley on TV, yesterday, if he’s not a racist, the guy is a complete and utter dick of a man, a very “good, ole boy” Irish Catholic establishment-type who’ve never been kind to other ethnicities in Boston. That has no bearing on how I judge the actual incident (Crowley was just plain wrong), but to pretend that Gates was the only belligerent, here, or even the biggest one in this incident is mistake to put it lightly. lol
Extemporanus says at 4:07 am, July 25th, 2009 – Reply
hobospacejunkie: Thank you for distilling the swill.
However, there’s a chink in the armor of the iron-clad “charges were quickly dropped so cops were obviously wrong” conclusion:
The Cambridge police chief, as well as the head of the local police union, both stated in their Friday morning full court-presser (there were like 50 white guys behind the podium) that the charges were dropped without their consultation, and against their better judgment.
Furthermore, one of the dudes stated that he would’ve preferred that this case received a full hearing in court—”an impartial venue for the airing of true facts”—which he unequivocally stated would show that the police officers’ actions were entirely appropriate, and that it was Dr. Gates who bore sole responsibility for the fact that the interaction resulted in his arrest.
A secondary grievance aired repeatedly by a parade of popo-types at said press conference: I am mortally offended that Obama called me/us/them “stupid” (vs. “acted stupidly”), and he needs to apologize immediately, not only to the cops involved, but to every single law enforcement individual, entity, and institution in this country.
Finally, my little brother—former Army Special Forces member, pre/post-Iraq invasion Beduoin-guarding security contractor, IED-injured enthusiastic user of medicinal and recreational drugs, archeologist/anthropologist degree, linguist, EMT-in-training, Nihilist, hippy, tattoo addict, classical guitarist, etc.—is considering a move to Austin. And he hasn’t even seen any of Richard Linklater’s films.(?!)
My question: Should he see them? And if so, do you have anything to add?
(Whiplash!)
hobospacejunkie says at 4:18 am, July 25th, 2009 – Reply
LoweredPeninsula: Well said. You know, before this I thought it was in the Lefty Bible: never give cops the benefit of the doubt. So I’ve been astounded to see some posters here (apart from Nihilist/Neilist) instinctively take the cop’s side or say/imply that Gates had it coming for the capital crime of being an asshole. I have my own, not exactly mysterious, ideas on why some people do this, but now’s not the time for name-calling.
Extemporanus says at 4:21 am, July 25th, 2009 – Reply
Smoke Filled Roommate: Thank you, Roomie.
(BTW- Your Neilist link was broken…)
hobospacejunkie says at 4:32 am, July 25th, 2009 – Reply
Extemporanus: Your brother should see Slacker to get an idea of what Austin was like pre-tech boom. I can’t speak for the rest, not having seen them.
As for the cops & charges dropped: my understanding is that cops arrest & book, a prosecutor brings charges, a judge presides over an arraignment to read the charges, the defendant pleads.
So this seems to have been short-circuited by a prosecutor who thought “this is not a winnable case” and sent Gates on his way. I don’t believe prosecutors need the arresting cop’s permission to do their job.
So yeah, I’m saying I don’t care what the cops & union said or want, and it appears the prosecutor didn’t either. If I’m mistaken about how the process works, I’m certainly willing to be corrected.
Extemporanus says at 4:53 am, July 25th, 2009 – Reply
LoweredPeninsula: That’s precisely the point I’ve been trying (unsuccessfully?) to make from the get-go.
In Crowley’s first on-camera interview—which I believe took place Thursday morning in front of his house—the reporter asked him what he thought of Obama. His answer: “Well, I sure didn’t for the guy!”
No shit.
Judging by the indignant tone of the pro-Crowley Friday morning press conference, I’m guessing that very few of the featured speakers—police chief, fellow officers, union reps, lawyers, etc. who repeatedly expressed frustration that Gates wasn’t locked-up and awaiting trial, and anger that Obama had the temerity to say “Boo!”—did either.
Extemporanus says at 5:09 am, July 25th, 2009 – Reply
hobospacejunkie: I’m totally with you on the dropped charges thing. My earlier comment wasn’t meant to undermine the integrity of that decision, but to note that the oft-times adversarial relationship between DAs and PDs has a way of rendering such decisions irreconciably contentious.
Having seen his others, Slacker would be my preferred primer as well. But speaking as a pre/post-boom resident, do you deem Austin worth the scrotal scorpions, SXSW self-shittedness, and surrounding stretches of shit-kicking Sahara to warrant a relocation?
I’m assuming you do, seeing that you still live there. Though maybe you just like dusty, sweaty ass-cracks?
smellyal8r says at 9:09 am, July 25th, 2009 – Reply
Extemporanus: Tell him to move to Austin. It’s a great city (though with their own white police issues, eh Hobo?). Any Linklater film is worth seeing and Austin is still filled with scorpions, most of them in starched jeans and a white open-collar starched shirt.
After reflecting on my comments overnight, I still stand behind them (what kind of Wonketteer would I be if I folded up like a cheap suitcase?). However, I’ve also done quite a lot of reading last night and today and, sadly, we aren’t far removed from the Bull Conner 60s in a lot of areas (the south fer sure, and, now, it appears the northeast). As a gay white male Texas Methodist lawyer/lobbyist who tries to do right and live a good life, I don’t have a lot in common with people who are pulled over because they are driving “too nice a car” that suddenly has a taillight busted out.
However, that’s not what happened here. The cops (one of them African American) responded to a neighborhood b&e call that turned into a shoutfest. I suspect police training dictates that no matter who’s yelling at you (or what color they are) it’s practice to eventually arrest and let the DA sort it out. It’s also not incumbent on our President to pop off, fan the flames and make this the “above the fold” headline on the Saturday paper in every major American city.
missionmom1 says at 9:31 am, July 25th, 2009 – Reply
So you don’t think President Bush was the brightest bulb on the tree??? So what? That doesn’t make it right to call him a retard. Stop using words that were only acceptable in 7th grade. Using the word retard dehumanizes people with special needs. Why use it knowing that you hurt others?
Neilist says at 12:20 pm, July 25th, 2009 – Reply
Extemporanus:
Re Your 1: Thanks for conceding the “Liberal = Athetist” point so clearly. It helps explain Rev. Wright, and it will be intereresting to see whether The Great Muggle Hope endorses your views, given what this will cost him in terms of votes. But of course, Liberals don’t care about that silly politics/voting stuff . . . which is why, historically, they keep losing elections.
Re Your 2: Ah, the old “I Meant To Say That – It Was A Joke/Ironic” Defense. Last seen by Wingnuts trying to explain away their racist emails, etc. Again, good to see that you go “right” to the playbook when pressed.
Re Your 3: Of COURSE you got the “Henry V” reference. Sure. Jumped right out at you. You were just too busy making accusations of rape fantasies to bring it up. (Oh, by the way: If you had ever read the play, you’d know that, immediately after that speech, Henry threatens the town with rapine and pillage. But let’s not talk about Dead European White Men’s Literature anymore. It’s too racist to warrant comment.)
Re Your 4: In the process of your attempt “to speciously elevate,” could you try not to split those infinitives? I realize that the rules of grammar are simply more of the DEWM’s ways of keeping down oppressed minorities, but it grates a bit regardless.
Finally, and to all: I agree with all here that The PO-Lice should have no right to arrest ANYONE for merely verbal comments, abuse, etc. Which is why I am sure that all here will agree that the next time the KKK, American Nazi Party, Homophobic Religious Nuts, etc. refuse to quiet down as requested, the The PO-Lice simply should leave, or stand by reading the Constitution and/or the Bill of Rights. (Well, except for that 2nd Amendment. That clearly was a mistake, and should be ignored.)
The officers can return to pick up the bodies, and clean up the mess, after the riot/lynching/”civil unrest” quiets down — or if Extemporaneous has gotten that far in his/her/its remedial reading, the breach of the walls of Harfleur.
Remember our meme for the weekend: Snarky Liberals = GOOD! The PO-Lice (regardless of race, ethnicity, training, temperament, or situation) = BAD!
[I think that last may be some of that "irony" stuff. If God wasn't dead -- as Hopey doubtless wil confirm shortly -- He/She/It could explain.]
user-of-owls says at 1:16 pm, July 25th, 2009 – Reply
You people are making a mockery of the mockery that is Wonkette. Get a room at the Kos-mopolitan or the Red State Inn.
kaka says at 1:35 pm, July 25th, 2009 – Reply
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A Better American Than YOU says at 2:52 pm, July 25th, 2009 – Reply
I can’t remember if Skip Gates is this generation’s Emmett Till or this generation’s Emmett Kelly.
I can’t determine if this episode is this year’s Tawana Brawley or this year’s Duke Lacrosse team.
Cops, black and white, can be racists. Harvard guys, black and white, can be arrogant assholes.
If everyone who was a racist or an arrogant asshole was put in jail well, uh, there would surely be lots of people in jail.
BlueStateLibtard says at 3:35 pm, July 25th, 2009 – Reply
A Better American Than YOU: Well said. But I don’t know if there’d be enough jail cells. Basically, I see the whole incident as the natural result that occurs when two arrogant dongles collide. Not really surprising at all.
hobospacejunkie says at 4:13 pm, July 25th, 2009 – Reply
Extemporanus: I do like dusty, sweaty ass cracks, but I’m in Austin kind of by default, having gone to school here off & on and then my whole family moved here eventually and then I got married & my wife has a bitchin’ job so we’re here for now. I’m not a huge fan of Austin, it’s far too dry. I can handle the heat having grown up in Houston, but I like rain and we only get it here occasionally, often in large amount at once. It’s also a bit small for my taste. I like the fact that you can drive for hours in Houston and still generally be in Houston. Plus we’re surrounded by wingtards, it being the deep south and all. If that’s a recommendation, I don’t know.
Sexual Harrassment Panda says at 5:39 pm, July 25th, 2009 – Reply
user-of-owls: Unfortunately getting Levin and Savage and Hannity and Beck and Brian Thomas and Limbaugh and Rove and all these other fucktards silenced from the AM radio (something that frankly should be done away with altogether) will not stop them, as history has proven. Michael Savage is actually sueing England for banning him from their country, a country he will NEVER get off his fat old ass and even intend on visiting in his entire life I gaurantee you. Trust me, it will just make it worse. They’re the same as these dipshits on Counter-Strike and whatnot. If you mute or kick them, it will just make them more annoying.
Notalib says at 9:37 pm, July 25th, 2009 – Reply
Lets be honest here people the only dumb one here is the so called professor who is crying racial profiling, how can it be profiling when all the cop did was answer a 911 call, he did not just happen to go to the house because a black man was standing there HE ANSWERED A 911 CALL…..what a dumbass this professor is.
LoweredPeninsula says at 4:09 am, July 26th, 2009 – Reply
A Better American Than YOU: This kind of moral equivalency is ridiculous, as is the near-constant attempt in all of these cases to try and make it as if the onus in these situations lies equally on both parties. It doesn’t, and being an arrogant asshole and being a racist aren’t equally desctructive and evil, nor are they mutually exclusive.
Mr. Gates is well within his rights to be a prig and dick in this situation whether one likes it or not. Short of putting the officer or himself in danger, or ultimately impeding an investigation, the belligerent is always within his or her rights to be a jerk, and can’t (and shouldn’t) be arrested for being one. The officer (who we swear and delegated great power and responsibility to) can not be a dick on his job, PERIOD. Goddamnit, it is his job to diffuse these situations. After he found out that it was indeed the beliigerents home, he should have simply left no matter what Gates was yelling at him while he left. Crowely, in the end, escalated this shit by essentially demanding/luring Gates outside so that he could arrest him for disorderly conduct. That’s a pussy/bitch move on the officers part, and quite frankly, I hope Gates sues the badge off his ass.
I’m not a “fuck the cops” individual by any means, and it’s because of that that I find the officers ultimate answer to Gates’ priggishness so terrible and a ridiculous abuse of his power as an officer.
Both Gates and Crowley acted stupidly. The difference is that Gates as a private citizen being investigated in his own damned home is completely within the law and his rights to act stupidly. There is no controversy, here; there are not two equal sides to this story.
LoweredPeninsula says at 4:12 am, July 26th, 2009 – Reply
A Better American Than YOU: Oh, and fuck you for making light of Emmet Till and the rest, you racist douchebage.
Notalib: And, a well deserved “fuck you” for completely missing the point you equally racist asshole.
Notalib says at 8:38 am, July 26th, 2009 – Reply
LoweredPeninsula: Typical for people like you, I did not miss any point all but ignorant people like you who thrive on hate are. The cop was doing his job a man who has a chip on his shoulder decided he was going to act like an asshole because of his color he could get away with. Thank God that people are getting tired of the race card that people like him want to use whenever they please. The biggest mistake the office now can make is go to the White House and let the two people who have made this a controversy off the hook.
Advocatus_Diaboli says at 9:00 am, July 26th, 2009 – Reply
Notalib: The biggest mistake the office now can make is go to the White House and let the two people who have made this a controversy off the hook refusing to admit he fucked up.
/fixed
The disorderly conduct charge was dropped, so obviously someone in the DA’s office thought the arrest was bogus. End of story.
smellyal8r says at 11:29 am, July 26th, 2009 – Reply
Notalib: Good for you. Amen, etc. Lowered has some issues that (apparently) need to be worked through.
Neilist says at 1:52 pm, July 26th, 2009 – Reply
Advocatus_Diaboli: “The disorderly conduct charge was dropped, so obviously someone in the DA’s office thought the arrest was bogus. End of story.”
Come back after you finish law school (or at least criminal procedure/legal ethics), and understand that a prosecutor is ethically obligated to drop a case if he/she/it does not have a good faith belief of obtaining a conviction.
Not necessarily the same thing as think the “arrest was bogus.” It can be, but not necessarily.
Ignorance: End of story.
[Sorry, sorry. I apologize. I forgot that the law, facts and/or rational thought don't apply in here. Let me get Back On Meme.]
OFF THE PIGS! FREE HUEY!
Feel free to rebut my critique of your stupidity, which I’ll repost here to make it easy for you. I know teh internets can be hard. Or, you know, feel free to shut the fuck up.
Advocatus_Diaboli says at 2:21 pm, July 26th, 2009 – Reply
Neilist: I’m willing to bet that most disorderly conduct charges stem from an officer’s inability to come up with a real offense with which to charge a suspect. Moreover, disorderly conduct is a misdemeanor for which a citation is and generally should be the appropriate response. That is, the officer doesn’t have to take the suspect to the hoosegow and waste taxpayer dollars on booking, etc. – a nice little piece of paper that says “hey, guess what, you get to show up in court to defened yourself against this dumb charge.” But in this case officer dumbass really thought it was in the best interest of society to place Gates under arrest. What are you fucking smoking if you think that that was an efficient use of limited police resources?
[re=370920]Advocatus_Diaboli[/re]: well that sucked. apparently teh internets are too hard for me. Sorry.
has said she plans to write a book.
For some reason I get a vision of Palin writing a book like Vanna White spells a word. Wandering around looking for one letter at a time.
[re=370791]coulterite[/re]: Ooh, Dick, those weapons of yours are givin’ me the vapors!
[re=370916]iolanthe[/re]:
The smart money is on America’s short attention span. The long, hard road to recovery will likely be forgotten by late spring/early summer 2010. Obama is a really smart mofo. I wonder what percentage of people realize that he’s attacking healthcare costs first for a very specific reason. He is without a doubt paving the way for an easier and almost imperceptible transition to universal healthcare. Remove the bloated beaurocracy, waste incentives, and redundancy first. Then, when people see the savings, the 25% further cost reduction (from the lack of executive privileges and investment returns) is a natural, logical step. At that point, any of the GOP’s efforts to derail universal healthcare will be as politically lethal as trying to remove social security.
I’ll take a nice bottle o’ red zin. Like I’m drinkin’ now. Which is why I can’t spell.
[re=370869]coulterite[/re]: AMERICA WAS BUILT ON YES, GREED AND CAPITALISM
I just love it when wingnuts rewrite history. Boy, those founding fathers were total capitalists. Greedy too.
This thread needs more buttsecks. And trucknutz. Cheney just wanted to invade Buffalo as a test run for the invasion of Berkeley.
YOU LIBTARDS NEED TO GET WITH THE FUNNY OR HOPEY WILL MAKE YOU GO TO A COMMIE DOCTOR AND EAT BORSCHT EVERY NIGHT! CHENEY/PALIN 2012! Or Ensign/Sanford! Or Coulter/Bachmann! THE TEA BAGGING REAL AMERICUNS HAVE JEEBUS ON THEY SIDE! JEEBUS AND GUNS! You know how Jesus loves guns.
iolanthe: Whichever, we must be miserable and friendless, with no lives.
Ummm. Yeah. No, of course not. WHEN exactly do we get paid for these comments? And WHERE exactly are the comment groupies who want to love-me-long-time?
[re=370921]Advocatus_Diaboli[/re]: If you didn’t intend to do that then, wow, hell of a mistake. I just thought it was part of your admonition to nihilist to read again, and this time pay attention, though that’s like telling a dog to stop eating shit out of the cat box.
That photo. What a missed opportunity!
[re=370920]Advocatus_Diaboli[/re]: TLDR
[re=370863]coulterite[/re]: Male Libs still like to go to bed with their Al Gore & Jimmy Carter Dolls and practice molesting them ! The FEMALE LIBS….. They play and molest with their Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pilosi dolls only to find that under their pant suits …… they both have a PENIS ! LOl’s !
Totally. I love my Al Gore and Jimmy Carter dolls. They have buttsecks all the time in my pretend White House which I painted red. COMMIE HOMO PRESIDENTS FOREVER! LOl’s!
Coulterite has such a good head on their shoulders. I’m baffled into submission by the sheer force of their logic. So clever those conservatives. I’m just glad I have more guns than them.
[re=370909]Neilist[/re]: And here I thought it was weed. What with all the long, rambling sentneces that seem to be leading somewhere, and then, all of the sudden, buttsex.
[re=370927]hobospacejunkie[/re]: [re=370929]I Am Not Your Gary Busey[/re]:
Sorry and sorry. I didn’t not mean to do that. I blame it on Chrome’s disdain for cut and paste simplicity, but yeah, your’re right, Hobo, about trying to teach Neilist to stop eating the cat shit. Dude’s cold addicted to the stuff and I should know better.
[re=370932]Advocatus_Diaboli[/re]: That’s a’ight. I know it was in the spirit of (as HSJ pointed out) teaching a dog to stop eating cat shit. At least neily stopped blogwhoring, perhaps commenting will be next?
Juli– I am surprised that no one has thanked you for mentioning the famous semen-merchant Vincent Gallo in your post.
Thank-you.
[re=370919]I Am Not Your Gary Busey[/re]: OW OW OW OW OW.
Anyone hear Harry Shearer’s show today? Iraq is trying (with our support) to roll back all the UN Security Council sanctions from the bad old days. Including the sanctions against Iraq for weapons of mas destruction. Yes, we’ll finally be able to find WMDs in Iraq–because we’re gonna put ‘em there. YAY!
Bush & Condoleezza would be glad to sacrifice Cheney to save themselves.
Karl Rove has plenty of bright ideas.
But where was Rummy?
[re=370931]Lionel Hutz Esq.[/re]: Surprise Buttsehks. It works better that way.
[re=370936]dr.giraud[/re]: Who do you think sold Iraq the chemical weapons they used against the Kurds and Iranians?
[re=370924]Servo[/re]: I also believe this is exactly what he’s doing. Once people see what it’s like not getting shafted by health-insurance robber barons, they’ll want universal health care. The other side knows this, that’s why they’re spending a million a day fighting it and getting increasingly hysterical in the corporate media. They know the party’s over soon.
As for the Gates’ arrest, I think it comes down to this. Cops have increasingly adopted a police-state mentality. This cop expected Gates to show the proper subservience that cops expect today. Whether you’re black, white, rich or poor, the damn pigs think we owe them this, when in fact, Gates’ words were Constitutionally protected. All the damn wingnuts mouth the crap that we ought to “respect” the cops, when we have no such obligation. Of course, when THEY’RE humiliated by cops, they’re the first ones to sue. Assholes.
[re=370920]Advocatus_Diaboli[/re]: tl;dr. wtf?
[re=370939]bago[/re]: BING BING BING! I know! *WE* did! Isn’t there a pic of Don Rumsfeld hugging Saddam Hussein, as they finalize the deal?
The only reason Bush didn’t unleash Cheney was because he didn’t have the will. Or in other words, he had a lack of wanna.
[re=370905]Neilist[/re]: Well. I tried. Not sure why; I know the old maxim about how if you enter into an internet argument you’ve already lost but sometimes I like to entertain myself on a Sunday.
(Oh, and on the SKS: the owners are creepily reverent. I have no idea why. There is exactly one gun in this household and it’s an heirloom AK-17 with a swastika carved on the butt that my grandfather picked up in Italy. My brother has apparently verified that it fires — probably better than the longgun Cheney has in the picture — but it weighs about fifteen pounds and by the time the second great war rolled around it was only used by snipers. And there’s very little ammo around for it.)
[re=370881]coulterite[/re]: And OK I’ll feed the troll just to see if it comes back for more:
I could get really, really boring and ask for things like “evidence” that capitalism (as you define it, mind) is “better” than “socialism” (as you define it, mind).
My average work week topped at between 90 and 100 hours/week. I’m currently unemployed (which is why I write screeds on a satire website?). I still work about 70 hours/week on various potential jobs. But the weird thing is, I still think that unifying health risk across the broadest possible spectrum of consumers is an inherently good thing because I understand advanced things like “math” and “insurance”.
Having insurance isn’t a disincentive to work, dude. It’s actually quite the opposite.
As for the random “WE THE PEOPLE” and not “WE THE GOVERNMENT” bullshit, perhaps you should revisit your constitutional theory a bit. Particularly Madison and Hamilton. If you’d at least invoked a tyranny of the majority argument we could talk. Instead, you opted to spew invective.
And who the fuck is Axs? Some sort of ancient egyptian god you’re getting this stuff from? Or is that just an obscure metaphor for Ron Paul?
You fuckwits drove Arlen Spectre out; glad you’re happy with that decision. Brilliant political thinking on that point. You manage to endorse Joe Lieberman despite the fact that he’s only socially conservative and about as “loose” as any other democrat on any other point. But oh god no, you can only worship those people who endorse gay marriage when they also endorse invading other countries to kill purported but highly inconclusive terrorists?
Yeah. I call bullshit.
And with that I’ve opted to end my Sunday afternoon gin consumption for awhile.
G’head WingNuts. Resist with yer gunz. Make yourselves enemies of the State so we can prosecute you under your beloved Cheney’s Patriot Act system and throw your worthless asses into prison cells vacated by small-time drug offenders.
G’head.
Dreadfully written invective?
Third-grade caliber ad hominem attacks?
Pants-wetting outrage expressed in Homeric posts?
I do not want to be here tomorrow when the gods return from their weekend visit to Valhalla, hammers in hand.
Blood in the streets, compadres, blood in the streets.
[re=370948]user-of-owls[/re]: [re=370865]jbd[/re]: Spare the pseudo-innocent?
[re=370917]Neilist[/re]: Although I love telling people I have a Superior Court appearance in RANCHO CUCAMONGA.. wtf are you talking about? You you just type to see/hear yourself type?
[re=370774]Lazy Media[/re]: Yep, that’s why I think this all part of Bush/Cheney’s nefarious plot– have Cheney take credit/blame for every dastardly deed the administration did and probably a few that they didn’t even dream up, and this way Bush comes up smelling like roses– “well, Cheney wanted to install martial law and John Yoo came up with a legal argument to do it, but Bush stamped his foot down and defiantly declared that the Constitution is the law in the land.” This way, he can claim that he really did keep this country safe while he was President
PS- don’t feed the trolls.
It’s midnight here. My weekend’s over. It’s been (mostly) fun. See y’all tomorrow.
KTUU.com to stream Palin’s farewell address, Parnell’s swearing-in Sunday
The start of the new American something-or-other. Or maybe not.
More funny, please.
[re=370932]Advocatus_Diaboli[/re]: Ha! I have the same problem with Chrome. You wanna copy some small piece of text and almost the whole damn page can look like it’s selected, and sometimes is. Groogle needs to get the easy stuff right before moving on to stuff like extensions.
[re=370948]user-of-owls[/re]: There’s only a coupla’ folk need bannin’ here. Advocatus Diaboli made a small, Chrome-induced error easily remedied on WordPress by the delete button. The real topic at hand here is still Dick Cheney, simultaneously defending his legacy, trying to avoid prosecution, save poor ‘Scooter,’ and launch his non-gay gaughter’s political career. Good luck with that, Dick. And go fuck yourself.
[re=370881]coulterite[/re]: “YOU LIBS WILL NEVER TRULY UNDERSTAND THE GREATNESS OF CAPITALISM. It’s not perfect but it’s better than anything the socialists have tried and FAILED AT by the way , yet they continue to embrace it .”
I guess that explains Scandanavia’s high placement on quality of life indexes. Oh wait, that completely contradicts your nonsense. Nevermind.
Does this mean we are off terrorism alert level Orange finally.
If Cheney twitters (I don’t care to find out) I hope he keeps us all updated to what the appropriate terrorism alert level is
[re=370975]Bruno[/re]: That’s terrorism alert Boehner.
If the banhammer won’t fall due to assoholism, can it drop due to poor spelling?
I’ll settle for either.
[re=370983]Canuckledragger[/re]: Over-punctuation should be a capital offense. Also.
[re=370855]gurukalehuru[/re]: You have obviously never worked for the federal government. I have, including on military stuff at relatively high security levels and IT IS IMPOSSIBLE to pull off something like that. No fuckin’ way could anybody short of space aliens do something like whåt the Loose Changers think happened. That’s ignoring the fact that the conspiracy theorists know absolutely nothing about the physics/engineering involved, which all the skeptics DO.
Look at real, historical examples of covert government action. The Watergate break-in is a good one. A few losers involved, incompetent bungling, and eventually half of them roll over.
[re=370995]AnnieGetYourFun[/re]: Over-punctuation should be a capital offense.
“I” “couldn’t” “agree” “more!!!1£$€#*&!!!”
“Also!!!€$£#*&!!!”
All I can say is that He’s sure lucky he didn’t bring that shit to East Aurora. Yeah, y’all heard me!
[re=370774]Lazy Media[/re]: You forgot Poland.
I think you spell Buffalo: بوفاله
Wonkette’s Buffalo sounds something like “jamas”, which rhymes with “hamas”… maybe.
oh, The Snack. you know, The B Snack. We could use some excitement.
[re=370864]jbd[/re]: You seem to know nothing as to what has really happened over the past eight years but where I come from we call people like you “Sheep” as you will believe what is ever told to you as the media likes to keep morons like you in the dark. I would suggest that you get educated as to what happened over the last eight years with the most lying and corrupt Administration to lead the United under the Puppet President George Walker Bush who was the front man for Five Time Deferment Dick Cheney and the PNAC.
Continue to be kept in the dark and the Government will appreciate you as the need morons like you for followers. Have a nice life and at some time go to see a Proctologist to have your head removed from down under and I think you know where that is.
[re=371030]morriso[/re]: Wait wait wait. I’m a sheep? Can’t I be a lamb? They iz tastier? Oh, and there was definitely no serin in Iraq; no siree. And it was never deployed against the Kurds. And even if it was, it didn’t exist when we invaded, right, and so no one was exposed to it when recovering UXO?
Also, my head is definitely not in Australia. What an odd assertion.
[re=371028]Greener420[/re]: Why the terminal he? بأفعالا might be closer.
[re=370899]AnnieGetYourFun[/re]: For the most part, children of USCs (as we say in the immigration biz) are citizens at birth. I think the issue is they are not still not necessarily allowed to run for prez if born off US soil, but dammit, I’m an immigration lawyer Annie, not an election expert.
So, snark-free post =s the ban hammer? Because if it I am to be exiled to Kos, please tell me James Joyce & Co or whoever these long-winded weekend posters will be part of the relocation march.
Jeebus people, there’s only so text one wants to read whilst hungover.
[re=371038]pedestrian rage[/re]: That’s the paradox of the hangover. Reading bad. Writing insane screeds good. Google needs to find a way to goggle out forum posts in addition to late night emails….
So SEE, you guys! Sarah Palin would not have been the worst vice president evah! Also!
[re=371000]Lazy Media[/re]: My, what a smug non-take down of 9/11 truth…douchebag.
Oh, and Cheney went for some good wings and local micro-brews, as Buffalo thinks it is some kind of Mid West Portland Oregon.
[re=370919]I Am Not Your Gary Busey[/re]: Mark McKillop sounds like a god damn commie . Here in Texas , john cornyn is considered a fake REPUBLICAN .
A CERTIFFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH IS NOT A BIRTH CERTIFICKAT!!!!1!
VICTORIA JACKSON/ORLY TAINTZ 2013 !!! LETS TAKE BACK OUR CUNTRY !
Those of us lucky enough to live in other states think Texas sucks, El Pinche, so try not to bring that over-heated, dog-breath-humid hellhole into the conversation. Thanks
[re=371059]Athar[/re]: [re=371049]El Pinche[/re]: TEXAS TEXAS TEXAS Oh yeah, baby. Out, loud & proud. About Texas. And our Republican senators. Oh boy. And that former governor guy, ol’ whatshisname. At least we have the commie Lloyd Doggett representing Austin.
[re=370943]iolanthe[/re]: Actually Rummy was CEO of a power plant and was selling them generators back then.
[re=371059]Athar[/re]: “dog-breath humid”…hahaha
[re=371035]jbd[/re]: You are nothing but a total idiot, so there is no use wasting time with someone who has had their head up their posterior most of their life as they don’t have a clue as their head has always been up a dark hole. No your head isn’t in Australia its up you posterior, you moron.
GEEZ …… I thought all of you LIBS lives would be better under the Chosen one ….. like the black old lady that wanted a new home , a car and a new kitchen ….and GOT NOTHING , ZIP , NADA !!! LIBS just amzae me …they want Nirvana with this clown of a PREZ and if you’re unlucky …you might get a beer from this guy , and then YOU, NOT HIM will have to pay for the beer and his as well ! And for all you genius libs who think you know me and what I do ….. keep guessing and assuming …it just shows more of your Ignorance !
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