• February 9, 2012

It’s December, 2007 all over again! Out of nowhere come the Paultards, today, wanting more War.

Apparently one of them — “furlough” (Willie Horton?) at the Daily Paul — saw some “hate speech” in an earlier post, which doesn’t make sense — we suggested that anyone who doesn’t lust for sex in the anus with hot & sexy Ron Paul is a TRAITOR. Isn’t that a compliment to the Doctor? He’s a looker, and smart as a whip! But now this slob wants to kick us off of Google or something. Fine, the Internet is spent.

This is a brilliant opening sentence, though: “As someone who can’t help but google news search Ron Paul everyday for almost two years, I keep running into the same foul mouthed liberals slandering the Good Doctor under the guise of Satire.”

Tough life.

Anyway, if you’re interested, dear readers, maybe go drop a note or two over in the Daily Paul comments section…

[Daily Paul]

{ 179 comments }

chascates June 16, 2009 at 2:45 pm

Don’t they even know what a WAR BLOGGER does? I pity the fools.

Vartan84 June 16, 2009 at 2:46 pm

They’re just mad we insulted the fact his son is named after Ayn Rand. Oh God here comes the vomit again, I can’t repeat that fact without losing it

SayItWithWookies June 16, 2009 at 2:50 pm

Hey, the Ron Paul folks should look at the bright side — at least Willow’s safe around him.

queeraselvis v 2.0 June 16, 2009 at 2:51 pm

Yet another somebody who forgot to put on their big girl panties this morning.

shortsshortsshorts June 16, 2009 at 2:51 pm

OH? THEY WANT WAR? WELL WAR IS WHAT THEY SHALL RECEIVE.

Engage.

nbawriter June 16, 2009 at 2:51 pm

Google Shrugged.

magic titty June 16, 2009 at 2:51 pm

Dr. J. wouldn’t stand for such insults, and neither should Ron Paul.
I’M WITH THEM ON THIS ONE.

Rumproast June 16, 2009 at 2:51 pm

Snicker: “This is not a free speech issue, google is a community…”

This knucklehead thinks Google is a Phish concert. That’s precious.

chascates June 16, 2009 at 2:52 pm

You have to register at the Daily Dump Paul, get the confirm email and then wait to be approved. Snotty bunch, don’t you think?

MostlyHarmless June 16, 2009 at 2:53 pm

“Login or register to post comments”
Sucks.

And I just registered on Wonkette just to say that the Paultard site needs registrations to comment. FML.

shortsshortsshorts June 16, 2009 at 2:54 pm

[re=340008]chascates[/re]: THEY ARE VERY ELITE.

mdotsota June 16, 2009 at 2:54 pm

Geez, I don’t search for porn that often. And that’s porn.

tunamelt June 16, 2009 at 2:54 pm

Oh, this is what Shorts was bred for.

4tehlulz June 16, 2009 at 2:54 pm

>>Should just take a couple of minutes a day of my time :-)

Your sacrifice is noted, oh great Internet Activist.

nappyduggs June 16, 2009 at 2:55 pm

Are we gonna go the Palin route and turn this into a bathroom wall shit-smear campaign just to keep our name up in the media? I’m down is all I’m sayin.

doxastic June 16, 2009 at 2:55 pm

Again with the conservative obsession with turning random words into proper nouns. There ain’t been proper Satire in this joint ever. Just common satire.

Keram2 June 16, 2009 at 2:55 pm

[re=340008]chascates[/re]: That doesn’t sound very libertarian to me. First they make us register for accounts, next they’re going to make us do something crazy like register for guns. It’s a slippery slope.

tunamelt June 16, 2009 at 2:55 pm

As someone who can’t help but google news search Ron Paul everyday for almost two years

Wait. OMG. Are they making fun of themselves?

If not, Jesus Christ, go outside. There’s a great big world out there.

AxmxZ June 16, 2009 at 2:56 pm

FOUR AND A HALF DOCTORS!!

NoWireHangers June 16, 2009 at 2:58 pm

“As someone who can’t help but google news search Ron Paul everyday for almost two years…

Hmmmmmmm…

He’s the one they call Dr. Feel good
[In your pants]
He’s the one that makes ya feel all right
[Because he gives Paultards a boner]
He’s the one they call Dr. Feel good

The Unfairman June 16, 2009 at 2:59 pm

Here’s the email I got back:

” CryBaby,

Thank you for registering at Ron Paul Wins! | Campaign for Liberty at the Daily Paul. Your application for an account is currently pending approval. Once it has been granted, you may log in to http://www.dailypaul.com/user using the following username and password:

username: CryBaby
password: JuGAP2m8Cc

This is a one-time login, so it can be used only once.”

My favorite is the last line. The Good Doctor doesn’t think much of his followers, does he? Maybe he should be censored.

If I get “approved”, you guys have te permizzions to log in and give em hell.

x111e7thst June 16, 2009 at 2:59 pm

I was going to leave a witty and scathing comment on the Paultard site, then I saw this:

“For all you new chicken owners, a little lesson I just learned the hard way
Posted June 16th, 2009 by MikeLawson
If you have 3 chickens that basically act like little puppies and are pretty attached to you, don’t assume if you get 3 more that the old ones won’t just pack up and leave. For about 1/2 a day after getting 3 new birds, I had 6. Now I have 3, but it ain’t the old girls. They left. Weird, huh?”

Now I just want to lie down.

Gorillionaire June 16, 2009 at 3:00 pm

“furlough” meant to say “everyday for the past two years I google Ron Paul and look for shit to get upset about, and then when I do whew! I blow my top and then I feel all better for about ten minutes and then I have to do it again and again and again.”
God already just get over the girl or boy that dumped you or that parent who forgot to hug you and move on. Then you can go outdoors or even make funnies on wonkette!

19kevin8 June 16, 2009 at 3:03 pm

That whole Satire guise, it sure is a bitch.

4tehlulz June 16, 2009 at 3:04 pm

[re=340027]The Unfairman[/re]: Why is a libertarian site so restrictive about who can post comments? Doesn’t seem very free to me.

Cape Clod June 16, 2009 at 3:05 pm

I guess you should apologize, twice, so that Ron Paul can thank the military for making this exchange possible.

rev_matt_y June 16, 2009 at 3:06 pm

“As someone who can’t help but google news search Ron Paul everyday for almost two years”

I think that’s the saddest thing I’ve ever read.

Internally valid June 16, 2009 at 3:06 pm

We could contend that DP is offensive material as well, especially right next to the good doctor’s face. I mean, fine, Furlough, I get that you want Ron and Rand Paul to double-stuff your poop hole, but do you need to put it on the internet?

Come here a minute June 16, 2009 at 3:08 pm

Damn the guano faucets this is WARBLOGGING.

BlueStateLibtard June 16, 2009 at 3:09 pm

Aragorn: Open war is upon you whether you would risk it or not.
Theoden: So much death. What can men do against such reckless Paultards?
Aragorn: Ride out with me. Ride out and meet them.
Theoden: For death and glory.
Aragorn: For Wonkette. For your people.
Theoden: The Horn of Helm Hammerhand will sound in the deep, one last time!

Joshua Norton June 16, 2009 at 3:10 pm

They left. Weird, huh?

More like the neighbors had a pretty nice Sunday dinner. A stray chicken walking down the side of the road, clucking and shit, does not go unnoticed for very long.

Jukesgrrl June 16, 2009 at 3:10 pm

Step I: I admitted I was powerless over Ron Paul and my life had become unmanageable.

Barrett808 June 16, 2009 at 3:10 pm

Who knew Ron Paul fans were such babies? Oh, right…

paintitblack June 16, 2009 at 3:12 pm

Does furlough hang out w/David Denby?

TGY June 16, 2009 at 3:12 pm

Damn, think how much publicity Wonkette would get if it were BANNED FROM TEH GOOGLES! Servers would crash from the site traffic.

norbizness June 16, 2009 at 3:14 pm

They’ve got their own Bruce Dern and their own blimp, all they need is another outdoor Super Bowl with Wonkette editors in attendance.

Joshua Norton June 16, 2009 at 3:15 pm

Question. Why are we on the Google News Feed? We’re news? I guess Olberman was right.

I am going to put “Regular contributor to the Wonkette News Blog” on my resume. And demand First Amendment protection.

Suck on THAT, Paultards.

Min June 16, 2009 at 3:15 pm

I say we go to the mattresses.

In-a-gadda-velveeta June 16, 2009 at 3:17 pm

IS the war over? I occasionally drive past his campaign headquarters here in Austin and there’s still some re-love-oution-ing going on there. Or at least it’s overflow parking for the commune-style coffee bar next door. One or the other. Who cares?

ella June 16, 2009 at 3:20 pm

The little outraged Paultard wrote This is not a free speech issue, google is a community

Google is a community like Ron Paul is a viable candidate for president.

Cape Clod June 16, 2009 at 3:23 pm

So making ridiculous jokes about having gay sex with a septuagenarian obstetrician is equivalent to comparing black people to gorillas.

“The” Wonkette should be ashamed of itself.

ManchuCandidate June 16, 2009 at 3:25 pm

Now, I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by snarking for his/her website. He/she won it by making the other poor dumb bastard go insane for his website. People, all this stuff you’ve heard about Wonkette not wanting to fight, wanting to stay out of another war, is a lot of horse shit. Wonketteers traditionally love to fight. All real Wonketteers love the sting of battle. When you were kids, you all admired the smart ass, the quick wit, the big league asshole, the vilest comedian. Wonketters love a winner and will not tolerate a loser. Wonketteers play to win all the time. I wouldn’t give a rat’s ass for a man who was bested by a Paultard and laughed. That’s why Wonketteers have never lost and will never lose a war. Because the very thought of losing is hateful to Wonketteers.

Now, a Paultard is an individual. He lives in basements, eats cheetos, sleeps on cheeto dust, fights for cheetos as indidviduals. This Ron Paul/Ayn Rand stuff is a bunch of bullshit. The bilious bastards who wrote that stuff about individuality for the Paultards don’t know anything more about snark than they do about fucking.

Now, some of you boys, I know, are wondering whether or not you’ll chicken out under fire. Don’t worry about it. I can assure you that you will all do your duty. The Paultards are the enemy. Wade into them. Make them cry. Mock them about their bellies. When you put your hand into a bunch of goo that a moment before was your best internet friend’s avatar, you’ll know what to do.

Now there’s another thing I want you to remember. I don’t want to get any messages saying that we are holding our position. We’re not holding anything. Let the Paultard do that. We are advancing constantly and we’re not interested in holding onto anything except the Paultards. We’re going to hold onto him by the Furry nose and we’re going to kick him in the giant ass. We’re going to kick the hell out of him all the time and we’re gonna go through him like Paultards through M&Ms.

There’s one thing that you men will be able to say when you get back home. And you may thank Newell for it. Thirty years from now when you’re sitting around your fireside with your grandson on your knee and he asks you what did you do in the great Paultard War II, you won’t have to say, “Well, I posted on Huffington Post.”

Alright now, you sons-of-bitches, you know how I feel. Oh, and I will be proud to lead you wonderful guys into battle – anytime, anywhere.

That’s all.

Manos: Hands of Fate June 16, 2009 at 3:26 pm

On September 2, 1939, in the wake of Hitler’s invasion of Poland … blah blah. Anyways this is just is just like Hitler.

JMP June 16, 2009 at 3:27 pm

If you’re googling Ron Paul every day, even now, of course you’re going to find Satire of him. The man is irrelevant, and a joke, a laughingstock. The regular news isn’t going to cover him because he is not important, and what he says is insignificant, even more so than when he was in last place for the Republican nomination; the only reasons anyone has to mention him now are either that they are among his silly, cult-like followers (you, Mr. Furlough) or to make fun of his unimportance and his ridiculous fans (that’s this place).

Origami June 16, 2009 at 3:29 pm

Hey!

I tried to register to make comments but the link they emailed me took me to an “access denied” page. I find that sexually offensive to Ron Paul and now I am going to go complain about them to Google.

P.S.: Paultards, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I THINK RON PAUL IS SEXY! Why do you all hate freedom?

SmutBoffin June 16, 2009 at 3:30 pm

For extra bonus internet points, click on Kevin Tuma’s political cartoons. IT’S LIKE INSERTING WHITE-HOT NEEDLES BEHIND YOUR EYES AND INTO YOUR FRONTAL LOBE. I’d say that the comics curmudgeon would have a field day with them, but there isn’t anything of any substance to criticize. . .

Bruno June 16, 2009 at 3:32 pm

[re=340004]shortsshortsshorts[/re]: I am ready to War. I shall engage the agents as instructed.

THE LEAVES SIT ABOVE THE SCIENTIST

[REPEAT]

THE LEAVES SIT ABOVE THE SCIENTIST

Crypto-cypher: 2EA7BI42

d4g33z June 16, 2009 at 3:34 pm

Btw, what IS gold’s next move? [Sigh...]

spymoose June 16, 2009 at 3:34 pm

Well of course I’m foul-mouthed: I’m a damn talking moose, you retard!

gferris5 June 16, 2009 at 3:35 pm

Dude, what’s with their dis of Wonkette ads? Take a look at their ads, they have a half page dedicated to a plant that cures poison ivy, fifty different ads for signing a petition to end money, twelve more ads for a third party system and eight more just for one book somebody wrote about Ron Paul. Hmmmmm, jenky webpage with myriad small ads and flashing cheesy tif images…Sounds like someone copied the code from a PRON page and “Find and Replaced” “Ron Paul” for “horny good time locals”

drrty martini June 16, 2009 at 3:36 pm

I went there…but was distracted by the banner ad for beloved Wonkette Crush Object Adam Kokesh.

http://wonkette.com/254888/beloved-anti-gonzales-marine-reveals-all

Is there any way to win him over from th’ Paultards?

WadISay June 16, 2009 at 3:43 pm

Does this mean that the Alliance of Expediency with Redstate is politically acceptable again?

[re=340075]ManchuCandidate[/re]: Pattonesque.

the deliverator June 16, 2009 at 3:45 pm

[re=340075]ManchuCandidate[/re]: I am so fucking inspired right now. My kingdom for a Paultard login!

bamaboy June 16, 2009 at 3:45 pm

[re=340075]ManchuCandidate[/re]: win!

BklynIlluminati June 16, 2009 at 3:47 pm

Gentlemen get your trolling engines ready!!!

Once more into the breach my brothers!! Charge!!!

shortsshortsshorts June 16, 2009 at 3:50 pm

[re=340083]SmutBoffin[/re]: HOW COULD YOU LINK TO THAT? That’s just cruel.

Fox n Fiends June 16, 2009 at 3:52 pm

Ron Paul’s breath smells like headcheese.

And to add to the Google search quota:

Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.Ron Paul.

MisterLoki June 16, 2009 at 3:52 pm

Please provide Twitter updates on the emerging conflict.

El Pinche June 16, 2009 at 3:53 pm

OH my GALT! UberNeo says he’s “on it.” The One is Coming!!!!

Ok, to infiltrate and destroy from within, you must become a Paultard. Think like a Paultard. Smell like a Paultard. Be a Paultard. When you gain their trust, then strike. This is how i scored three fat chicks at the Confluence….hey, the bigger the waistband, the deeper the quicksand.

Nyarlathotep June 16, 2009 at 3:56 pm

“The username TruckNutz has not been activated or is blocked.”

Oh, god dammit…now I have to go back and masturbate to Politico while I wait for someone’s cheeto dust-stained fingers to activate my account.

Fucking Paultards…

I recanted June 16, 2009 at 3:58 pm

I’m saddened by the bellicosity I’m seeing here. Make love, not war, I say: I, for one, would love to take it in the &&&&, the #####, or even in the armpit, say, with that lust-engorged libertarian. Pity I can’t declare my love for him in a comment…

The Schadenfried PAC June 16, 2009 at 3:58 pm

[re=340004]shortsshortsshorts[/re]: General Shorts, I salute you sir.

PGforlife June 16, 2009 at 4:01 pm

“bust this stupid chick”

once again, wonkette is referred to as a woman. proof that they don’t even take the time to read the posts

proudgrampa June 16, 2009 at 4:02 pm

[re=340088]d4g33z[/re]: UP! And Silver and Oil and Natural Gas! UP!

Barrett808 June 16, 2009 at 4:06 pm

“Will no one rid me of this turbulent Wonkette?”

Mr Blifil June 16, 2009 at 4:07 pm

I have a hard time believing he’s that good a doctor.

dijetlo June 16, 2009 at 4:10 pm

Domain ronpaul.com:
WKF Corp.
Billing contact:
WKF Corp.
R. Garcia
wkfcorp@gmail.com
Apdo 6-6774, El Dorado
Panama City, PA 00000 PA
Phone: +507.67705754

Tommmcatt June 16, 2009 at 4:11 pm

[re=340115]El Pinche[/re]:

I draw the line at smelling like a Paultard.

queeraselvis v 2.0 June 16, 2009 at 4:16 pm

[re=340115]El Pinche[/re]: I don’t eat nearly that many cheetos.

d4g33z June 16, 2009 at 4:18 pm

[re=340135]proudgrampa[/re]: God help us all..

TheNavOne June 16, 2009 at 4:21 pm

If a blog farts and no one is there to comment on it, does it truly make a sound (choice regarding our current tax structure and the government’s rule over are very existence?)

Mr Blifil June 16, 2009 at 4:33 pm

Oh those fuckers…

T. R. Ucknuttz,

Thank you for registering at Ron Paul Wins! | Campaign for Liberty at the Daily Paul. Your application for an account is currently pending approval. Once it has been granted, you may log in to http://www.dailypaul.com/user using the following username and password:

username: T. R. Ucknuttz
password: HrXXpATXe4

–––––––––––––

and then:

The username T. R. Ucknuttz has not been activated or is blocked.

It’s like they’re just fucking with us.

Gopherit June 16, 2009 at 4:38 pm

Bah. The cowards won’t let me make a login. I’ll just put their comment email account on the LDS newsletter site for that.

LittlePig June 16, 2009 at 4:39 pm

[re=340083]SmutBoffin[/re]: Wow, that’s some high test stupid, right there.

I am confused about the “IMMIvasion” one though – aren’t those Messicans doing the whole libertarian thing and acting in their own rational economic self-interest? I would think libertarians would applaud that sort of thing. What’s the alternative? Have the EVVVVILLEEE
GUBMIT use force to keep the Messicans out?

Coherency is not apparently a Randian virtue.

d4g33z June 16, 2009 at 4:46 pm

[re=340207]LittlePig[/re]: Don’t bother. Basic Cartesian common sense is not even a Randian virtue. Getting schtupped in a fur coat is!

WideStance June 16, 2009 at 4:52 pm

When all this is finally over people will ask me, “Hey ‘Stance, why do you do it man? What did a Paultard do to you?” You know what I’ll say? I won’t say a goddamn word. Why? They won’t understand. They won’t understand why we did it.

Paulite June 16, 2009 at 4:53 pm

LOL @ you guys, what’s your beef with the Ron Paul movement?

Why are some here too stupid to even create an account on DP?

Some of you need some serious education, come over to DP and we’ll teach you: It is never too late to get a proper education, even for some of you. (Of course, the first step is to learn how to register into an internet forum ;)

P.S. The majority of you, are 16, you don’t understand politics, economics, … (You don’t even know the history of this country and your grammar is horrible). You need another 16 years to come around and start understanding, so now, go back to your xbox and play some SuperBama games :)

MattW June 16, 2009 at 4:58 pm

Will someone please tell the Paultards about Google news alerts?

ManchuCandidate June 16, 2009 at 5:00 pm

[re=340228]Paulite[/re]:
Why would I want to be taught by a guy who only reads Ayn Rand “novels”, screeds or rants?

Heh. Like a Paultard knows anything about politics or economics or history outside of a Libertarian pamphlet.

Paulite June 16, 2009 at 5:06 pm

ManchuCandidate: Just get a proper education, it is up to you to choose from whom you want to get educated, just be proactive and feed your brain with some substantial information :)

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queeraselvis v 2.0 June 16, 2009 at 5:07 pm

[re=340228]Paulite[/re]: For someone who chides us about grammar, your use of punctuation is atrocious. Go back to your cheetos bag, Chester, as you have no power here.

JeffGoldblum June 16, 2009 at 5:08 pm

CASH 4 GOLD!!!!!11!!!

Gopherit June 16, 2009 at 5:09 pm

[re=340228]Paulite[/re]: Hahahaha. We came over to try and play, and your cowardly systems people won’t complete our accounts. Bring your moron friends over here, and we’ll leave you crying, begging to suckle on the comforting smoothness of RP nutsack.

You guys are the biggest political retards that have ever walked the earth. It isn’t even a fair fight to debate you when we’re drunk.

d4g33z June 16, 2009 at 5:10 pm

[re=340245]Paulite[/re]: Here’s a better idea: instead of copy/pasting that list everywhere, YOU read the fucking books.

JeffGoldblum June 16, 2009 at 5:10 pm

[re=340245]Paulite[/re]: BIBLIOGRAPHY 4 GOLD!!! SEND IN YOUR RETARDED BIBLIOGRAPHIES FOR GOLD!!!

Paulite June 16, 2009 at 5:12 pm

queeraselvis: I am not looking for any power here, I am just trying to interact with you guys and exchange some thoughts, nothing more. I am not here for blaming, smearing or swearing :)

LOL, I love the Cheetos joke, funny, you guys are creative and funny in some way ;)

JeffGoldblum June 16, 2009 at 5:13 pm

[re=340245]Paulite[/re]: Seriously though, what do you REALLY think happened on 9/11?????

shortsshortsshorts June 16, 2009 at 5:14 pm

[re=340245]Paulite[/re]: Oh look— the Paultard can cut and paste! I can cut and paste too!

a) the dirty fucker is going to die in my window of starvation over the next few days

b) the dirty fucker is going to jump and look at me with his one eye (he can’t move his head to fix both eyes on me) until then. Every shower, every tooth brushing, every piss and so on…

c) the dirty fucker is presumably going to get more and more desperate (riiight???) and probably start scratching (if he can get his nails to glass?), possibly banging his stupid head into the window, or likely breaking out in blood-curdling EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE’s through the night?

d) The dirty fucker is eventually going to die and then attract whatever organisms are attracted to decomposing rat for what? Shall we say maybe 10 months? A year? On the window of my BATHROOM?!?!

As for all you animal lovers out there, I’m not so cold-hearted that I’d actually wish death on this fucker if I had a choice, but what are my options??? My only option is to open my bathroom window so he can fall into my shower or bathroom floor! And while I’m so damn nice that I’ve actually considered it, I’ve firmly decided that is NOT going to happen. So I’m here at CL with a big – and I mean a MIGHTY big – FUCK YOU TO THE BASTARD RAT at my bathroom window!!!
________________________________

That was a Craigslist post all about a rat. GUESS WHO IT SOUNDS LIKE, Paulite?

Take a guess… really.

Gopherit June 16, 2009 at 5:14 pm

[re=340245]Paulite[/re]: Hahaha! Reading is easy when you don’t sweat comprehension. Suck it, paultard.

JadedDIssonance June 16, 2009 at 5:14 pm

[re=340245]Paulite[/re]: I hear that collections of secret gold pamphlets are going at a premium these days. The swankier ones even come with their own tin foil hats – pre-measured. They even have a cheeto-dust-resistant version.

Paulite June 16, 2009 at 5:14 pm

d4g33z: Here’s a better idea: instead of copy/pasting that list everywhere, YOU read the fucking books.

LOL, yes, you are right, I am working hard on educating myself too, it takes time and a lot of efforts :)

Nyarlathotep June 16, 2009 at 5:15 pm

[re=340228]Paulite[/re]: First of all, it’s an XBox 360 Elite. See, I’m a Liberal, and I like my gaming consoles the same way I like my presidents: Fancy, Black and to come out of the box with a hard drive and HDMI port.

Second, before you teach me about anything, how about you take a refresher course on grade school level composition? Your post looks like you packed a bunch of commas and periods into a musket and shot at your screen.

I’d be just as happy to say all of this to you on your website of choice, but it seems like your administrators don’t want to let us play your reindeer games.

(I can’t believe I just had Paultard wag his/her/its Cheeto-stained finger at me about grammar.)

zenferret June 16, 2009 at 5:15 pm

[re=340228]Paulite[/re]: Chew toy!

chascates June 16, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Gopherit June 16, 2009 at 5:16 pm

[re=340255]Paulite[/re]: Bullshit. You came over here with a hard-on. You guys want debate? Bring it. We can’t go there. Don’t complain if you leave crying.

ManchuCandidate June 16, 2009 at 5:16 pm

[re=340245]Paulite[/re]:
You know what? Aside from Gibbon, Tuchmann, Baecivich, and Bamford (which I’ve read), they’re mostly Libertarian ideological screeds.

Most are rather dated or stupid. Be like learning about modern biology from a 1953 text that does not mention DNA or basing your politics on a 1957 novel.

Paulite June 16, 2009 at 5:16 pm

JeffGoldblum: Seriously though, what do you REALLY think happened on 9/11?????

A terrorist attack on the US by some cowards we still didn’t prosecute. One of them is apparently in Pakistan. I know as much as you know :)

buggers June 16, 2009 at 5:17 pm

[re=340245]Paulite[/re]: OMG I’m sooooo impressed!

What a tool.

Obamaton June 16, 2009 at 5:18 pm

[re=340013]tunamelt[/re]: Shorts is the Kwisatz Haderach? Weirdly, that makes a lot of sense.

Nyarlathotep June 16, 2009 at 5:19 pm

[re=340245]Paulite[/re]: WOW!!! You must have read more books than anyone else in your elementary school this summer!!! Gold star for you, Reader Rabbit!

Obamaton June 16, 2009 at 5:20 pm

[re=340070]ella[/re]: Google is, in fact, a Tool.

Paulite June 16, 2009 at 5:20 pm

LOL @ the comments, come on guys, be fair, I am only one here ;)
But I will be glad to have a discussion with everyone of you.
I will visit more often in the next days, and we can discuss the subjects that matter to us.

buggers: OMG I’m sooooo impressed!

Me too LOL

zenferret June 16, 2009 at 5:20 pm

[re=340228]Paulite[/re]: Leave my Gramma out of this. She’s an old lady and can’t take the pressure form the likes of you!

You might get all Galt on her and stop working the job you don’t have.

Or you might decide the best answer to all problems is the magic pony of market forces and ride all over her going clippity clop.

Kev-O-Tron June 16, 2009 at 5:21 pm

[re=340075]ManchuCandidate[/re]: That was truly inspiring. Thank you.

GreatOldOnesParty June 16, 2009 at 5:21 pm

[re=340228]Paulite[/re]: Our meat isn’t with the Ron Paul movement.
It’s with Paultards.
And keep referring to it as “DP” 4 teh lulz plz.

zenferret June 16, 2009 at 5:22 pm

[re=340269]Paulite[/re]: So like the ones that take over a plane with nothing more than a utility knifw is a coward. And how many Paultards are brave enough to defend the freedoms in this country?

The terrorists are despicable, not cowards.

Paulite June 16, 2009 at 5:22 pm

ManchuCandidate; I think you should first start reading the US constitution.

You really read those books? What are you a libertarian? LOL

Just kidding man, take it easy

shortsshortsshorts June 16, 2009 at 5:24 pm

[re=340269]Paulite[/re]: 9/11 WAS ORGANIZED BY GNOMES DEEP WITHIN THE JUNGLE. THEY HAVE BEEN ORGANIZING A SHADOW GOVERNMENT FOR SOME TIME NOW UNDER THE VEIL OF THE RON PAUL REVOLUTION. PAULTARDS CAUSED 9/11.

WAKE UP SHEEPLES. DON’T YOU GOOGLES?

Paulite June 16, 2009 at 5:24 pm

Nyarlathotep: WOW!!! You must have read more books than anyone else in your elementary school this summer!!! Gold star for you, Reader Rabbit!

LOL, a good one, I like it.

You guys really make me laugh I must admit

Kev-O-Tron June 16, 2009 at 5:24 pm

[re=340228]Paulite[/re]: Sweet! I’m sixteen again? Back to sexing with teh virgins and dropping acid!

JeffGoldblum June 16, 2009 at 5:26 pm

[re=340281]shortsshortsshorts[/re]: AYN RAND LIVES!!!!!!!!

Gopherit June 16, 2009 at 5:28 pm

[re=340281]shortsshortsshorts[/re]: Thank Jeebus for the Blimp….that saved us and won us the election last time…..

Paulite June 16, 2009 at 5:35 pm

Ok guys, my mom is knocking on my door, she is telling me to come upstairs, I am in the basement right now, and that I should stop eating the Cheetos and shut down my computer.

Wish you guys a great evening and hope to chat with you soon. In Meanwhile, get yourself the “Revolution, a Manifesto” :
http://www.amazon.com/Revolution-Manifesto-Ron-Paul/dp/0446537519

And also, preorder end the fed:

http://www.amazon.com/End-Fed-Ron-Paul/dp/0446549193/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1245187971&sr=1-1

And if you want us to become god friends, call your congressman/Senator and ask them to co-sponsor HR1207 and S604 (Federal Reserve Sunshine Act of 2009 )

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/92815

Cheers

hobospacejunkie June 16, 2009 at 5:36 pm

[re=340269]Paulite[/re]: Tell the cowardly baby running your site to let us in or shut his fucking cheetos hole about Wonkette. If you wanna WAR with the big boys at least put your diaper on. Don’t go hide in mommy’s closet watching her nail the mailman so the mean Wonkette won’t deface your GeoCities-copied website. Man up or shut up and fuck off, clown.

thefrontpage June 16, 2009 at 5:40 pm

The Paultards are just jealous because most of the Wonketters are having daily sexy orgy trysts with Bristol Palin, Sarah Palin and Mrs. Paul.

Gopherit June 16, 2009 at 5:41 pm

[re=340285]JeffGoldblum[/re]: They keep mentioning DP on that site. Do you think Ron and Alan Greenspan rubbed weiners when the rogered the hell out of Ayn Rand?

Gopherit June 16, 2009 at 5:42 pm

[re=340296]thefrontpage[/re]: Mmmmm. I lurve her fish and chips.

Min June 16, 2009 at 5:42 pm

Did you all miss the memo on not feeding the troll?

Mr Blifil June 16, 2009 at 5:44 pm

[re=340293]hobospacejunkie[/re]: Wait I thought that was just my mother…

Marlowe June 16, 2009 at 5:48 pm

[re=340075]ManchuCandidate[/re]: Thanks Manchu.
I’m glad you didn’t use fornicating instead of fucking.
I don’t think General Patton would have liked that rewrite from the movie.

thefrontpage June 16, 2009 at 5:54 pm

Paulite: What planet are you from, again?

Don’t you have better things to do, like take care of your new mistress, Bristol Palin?

qaf June 16, 2009 at 5:58 pm

[re=340234]MattW[/re]: Yes, that was what was really pathetic — that he couldn’t figure out he didn’t have to Google-search for Ron Paul manually…

Gopherit June 16, 2009 at 5:58 pm

[re=340301]Min[/re]: We’re feeding on the troll. Lighten up.

Barrett808 June 16, 2009 at 6:13 pm

[re=340275]Paulite[/re]: “I will visit more often in the next days, and we can discuss the subjects that matter to us.”

WEll, that sounds delightfully edifying for everyone involved — WAIT A MINUTE — We don’t DISCUSS subjects here; we SODOMIZE THEM IN FURRY SUITS. The next time you show up here, you’d better be wearing your best SUBMISSIVE PANDA fursuit, and we will get all DADDYFUR ON YOUR ASS.

goodluck/badluck June 16, 2009 at 6:19 pm

[re=340245]Paulite[/re]: http://www.2think.org/02_2_she.shtml, about Ayn Rand, who was an asshole and a shitty writer. Liking her means you have bad taste in literature. Few writers in history have succeeded so wildly at rendering their more credulous readers into insufferable assholes for at least a year after first exposure, with the notable exceptions of L. ROn Hubbard and the slug who wrote the Turner diaries. She appeals to a macho, early-20s, chest-puffing greedy dickishness and psychic gordon gecko-ism that’s tempermentally endemic to the American Male. Sugary shit for frat boys with a few extra brain cells, the bellowy dickhead in a sociology class… ugh. It’s really just gauche beyond tolerance.

Kinda like telling people where you went to college unsolicited, or, say, publically posting a list of books that you’ve read.

Speaking of which, as to the rest of your syllabus– with the notable exceptions of McKay and everything mentioned by [re=340268]ManchuCandidate[/re], who everybody knows anyway– well, fuck. I guess I’m just not into the idea of the Hobbesian state-of-nature as a social ideal.

Now I don’t know much about Vagina Doctor Ron Paul, but I do know that he deserves to be haunted by Kropotkin’s angry ghost. Don’t ask me how, but I do.

aflurry June 16, 2009 at 6:22 pm

[re=340005]nbawriter[/re]: yr funny.

orange June 16, 2009 at 6:35 pm

[re=340245]Paulite[/re]: the power of your list of books is overwhelming.

I submit and wish to have gold shoved up my ass now.

DangerousLiberal June 16, 2009 at 6:40 pm

Note to Paulistas: wash hands before handing oneself, let one’s “man”hood become the same Cheetos yellow as your fingers, in mom’s basement, also.

hobospacejunkie June 16, 2009 at 6:45 pm

[re=340415]DangerousLiberal[/re]: Or mom’s closet.

Paulite June 16, 2009 at 7:11 pm

Hey Guys, thanks for the love and the attention, I don’t get that much in the DP LOL
Sorry, I had to leave the basement and my cheetos, but I am back now.
If you get a chance, please call your congressman/senator and ask them to co-sponsor HR1207/S. 604 The federal reserve sunshine act, this is really important, here is more info regarding this:

S604: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s111-604

HR 1207: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-1207

Cheers

DustBowlBlues June 16, 2009 at 7:34 pm

First the Islamist council of Iran shuts down the twitter (btw–I hereby apologize for wishing twitter would go out of business so McCain wouldn’t be so annoying) now the Paultards want to limit the First Amendment Rights of the wonkeratti. Or, whatever.

This is what happens when I’m busy taking care of the old man and his new electronic heart–his pacer, or something–and he’s more bored than ever so I’ve had a hard time clocking in computer time bec. he’s really surfing the porn. Clearly, I need to fight for my rights to the computer so I can take part in the paultard war, if only to compensate for missing the first one.

To the battlements!

DangerousLiberal June 16, 2009 at 7:39 pm

Is this the bill that puts us on the gold standard? Or allows for free coinage of silver? Or replaces the GOP with the Know-Nothing party? If this bill is passed, will Congress, also, have to wear throwback uniforms? Just asking.

Barrett808 June 16, 2009 at 8:04 pm

Randroids and Objectivism — amusing reminders of a distant past, like the John Birch Society.

Mad Farmer Manifest June 16, 2009 at 8:33 pm

[re=340450]Paulite[/re]: I’m going to have to concur with [re=340268]ManchuCandidate[/re] and [re=340379]goodluck/badluck[/re]. I come from the far left, so I’d probably have a lot of common ground with you, but I got over the whole ‘Libertarianism will solve everything’ idea when I was 22. If we are going to go with the whole “everyone gets to do what they want” thing, then I get to start shooting polluters in the face because I’m tired of them robbing future generations of their HUMAN RIGHT to live on a non-toxic, healthy planet. Once you guys expand your concept of human rights to go beyond the right to fuck your neighbor over in an effort to make money, then you’ll find we’re in agreement. I say that my rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are severely constrained by a corporate and wealth dominated economic system where it’s just good business to poison people and their environment and fuck over workers for an extra $0.00001 per widget. According to the Libertarian school of philosophy, it is the government’s duty to protect me from those threats.

DustBowlBlues June 16, 2009 at 8:50 pm

[re=340038]4tehlulz[/re]: I’m surprised you don’t have to write in essay about the virtues of Ayn Rand to log in to the place.

Paulite June 16, 2009 at 8:52 pm

DangerousLiberal says:
Is this the bill that puts us on the gold standard? Or allows for free coinage of silver? Or replaces the GOP with the Know-Nothing party? If this bill is passed, will Congress, also, have to wear throwback uniforms? Just asking.

No, this is the Bill that will tell us where the 10+ trillion dollars the fed printed went to. Very important to know where our/our childrens/grand childrens tax money went to, right? Is transparency important to you?

DustBowlBlues June 16, 2009 at 9:04 pm

[re=340039]Cape Clod[/re]: “I guess you should apologize, twice, so that Ron Paul can thank the military for making this exchange possible.”

Very on top of the wacko news, Cape Clod. Kudos!

glamourdammerung June 17, 2009 at 12:34 am

Not even Doctor Paul believes in the nonsense he spouts, given how much he sure wants the state to interfere in gay marriage, the Panama Canal, seperation of church and state, etc., etc.

catdance June 17, 2009 at 12:35 am

[re=340000]Vartan84[/re]: Does his son look like Ayn Rand?

catdance June 17, 2009 at 12:58 am

[re=340250]d4g33z[/re]: Oh hell, he can’t actually read the books! That would be some kind of cooperative relationship with the author. Can’t have that.

catdance June 17, 2009 at 1:00 am

[re=340248]Gopherit[/re]: Paultards are pussies. They’re so scared, they’re blocking all new accounts.

Mr Blifil June 17, 2009 at 1:28 am

[re=340450]Paulite[/re]: Around here DP doesn’t mean what you think it means.

nader paul kucinich gravel June 17, 2009 at 4:00 am

It’s all so confusing this brutal abusing
They blacken your eye and then apologize
You’re daddy’s good girl don’t tell mommy a thing
Be a good little boy and you’ll get a new toy
Tell grandma you fell off the swing ~

Ralph, Dennis, & Mike said: “Be Frosty”
Google Don’t be EVIL
Big fish to fry…

lulzmonger June 17, 2009 at 4:51 am

[re=340245]Paulite[/re]: Oh look, the Short-Bus Fairy left us a “special” present.

“I consider all of Rand’s novels worth reading, in spite of my strong disagreements with her on important matters.”

So, do you also have this opinion as to the writings of the Unabomber, or the TIME CUBE guy?

Batshit insane as they are, neither of them glorified rape – but Rand sure as hell did. She never wrote ANYTHING that wasn’t a waste of the time it takes to read it … but those novels of hers make an excellent default test of basic intelligence: anyone who can’t see them for the mentally diseased, logically corrupt ziggurats of putrid horseshit they are isn’t worth debating, based on the “never kick-box with a quadrapalegic” principle.

As for Teh Magick Wizzerd Ron Paul, the guy didn’t even have the stones to stand behind all those racist articles in his newsletters. If you’re going to play up to the “states’ rights” Stormfront crowd, at least own up to it when you get caught with your panties around your ankles … how gullible does one have to be to think he never had a clue about all those articles that he printed & paid for – you know, the ones he put his name on? Gullible enough to think that a return to the gold standard at this point would be anything other than an epic fiscal clusterfuck (let alone Raelian Economics “brainstorms” such as abolishing the Fed) … or perhaps even gullible enough to vote for that creepy little nutjob.

Yeeeeesh.

meyotch June 17, 2009 at 5:31 am

[re=340245]Paulite[/re]: Sweet merciful crap, dude.

Lazy Media June 17, 2009 at 6:06 am

Speaking of the worst things on the Internets, I just spotted some douche using the #Iranelection tag on Twitter to pimp his lame-ass electronic “composition.” People suck. Mark my words, Twitter will be “Second Life” within six months, as soon as the porn spammers get serious about it.

Boojum June 17, 2009 at 7:53 am

[re=340517]Paulite[/re]: Dear Paultard,

The humans do not respond to jokes with “humor, very amusing, I appreciate jokes.” Please work on your Turing capabilities, as you are failing miserably so far.

Boojum June 17, 2009 at 8:23 am

[re=340450]Paulite[/re]: This is a mistake, this is a mistake…

Paultard, I am going to try to explain a fundamental misconception shared by the Doctor Pepper movement, which is that uninhibited personal liberty is an inherent good that can’t be denied.

You see, societies are like game. Games have rules because we don’t want them to turn into free for all nut grabbing blood on the floor scrums, except in hockey. Consider, for example, your last game of Dungeons and Dragons. If the other players didn’t follow the rules, would it really be very much fun? Could you have captured the + 10 flaming sword of death from the evil orc?

Societies have rules because uninhibited competition is a BAD thing. See blood on the floor, supra. Markets have rules for the same reason. See credit default swaps, collapse of financial sector. Societies that don’t enforce rules against excessive greed and abuse of power by the rich and powerful get those rules enforced one way or another, eventually, often in a bad way. See French Revolution. In the meantime, lots of misery. Id; also see Great Depression, New Deal.

Are you getting the concept? If so, for your next lesson, we will cover personal hygiene and chewing with a closed mouth.

Paulite June 17, 2009 at 9:25 am

It’s hilarious, all the liberal doughbags in congress (except 22 of them) are now voting to carry on with the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, aren’t you mad?
The shitheads neo-cons war is now the shitheads liberal war, pathetic LOL

You should be mad, real mad, you have been betrayed again. This is what Dr. Paul had to say:

On June 15, Rep. Ron Paul gave the following speech in opposition to the Democrats’ new $106 Billion war funding bill, after it was sent back to the House from the conference committee. (The bill passed Tuesday evening.):

Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong opposition to this conference report on the War Supplemental Appropriations. I wonder what happened to all of my colleagues who said they were opposed to the ongoing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. I wonder what happened to my colleagues who voted with me as I opposed every war supplemental request under the previous administration. It seems, with very few exceptions, they have changed their position on the war now that the White House has changed hands. I find this troubling. As I have said while opposing previous war funding requests, a vote to fund the war is a vote in favor of the war. Congress exercises its constitutional prerogatives through the power of the purse.

This conference report, being a Washington-style compromise, reflects one thing Congress agrees on: spending money we do not have. So this “compromise” bill spends 15 percent more than the president requested, which is $9 billion more than in the original House bill and $14.6 billion more than the original Senate version. Included in this final version — in addition to the $106 billion to continue the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq — is a $108 billion loan guarantee to the International Monetary Fund, allowing that destructive organization to continue spending taxpayer money to prop up corrupt elites and promote harmful economic policies overseas.

As Americans struggle through the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression, this emergency supplemental appropriations bill sends billions of dollars overseas as foreign aid. Included in this appropriation is $660 million for Gaza, $555 million for Israel, $310 million for Egypt, $300 million for Jordan, and $420 million for Mexico. Some $889 million will be sent to the United Nations for “peacekeeping” missions. Almost one billion dollars will be sent overseas to address the global financial crisis outside our borders and nearly $8 billion will be spent to address a “potential pandemic flu.”

Mr. Speaker, I continue to believe that the best way to support our troops is to bring them home from Iraq and Afghanistan. If one looks at the original authorization for the use of force in Afghanistan, it is clear that the ongoing and expanding nation-building mission there has nothing to do with our goal of capturing and bringing to justice those who attacked the United States on September 11, 2001. Our continued presence in Iraq and Afghanistan does not make us safer at home, but in fact it undermines our national security. I urge my colleagues to defeat this reckless conference report.

Paulite June 17, 2009 at 9:28 am

It’s hilarious, all the liberal douchbags in congress (except 22 of them) are now voting to carry on with the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, aren’t you mad?
The shitheads neo-cons war is now the shitheads liberal war, pathetic LOL

You should be mad, real mad, you have been betrayed again. This is what Dr. Paul had to say:

On June 15, Rep. Ron Paul gave the following speech in opposition to the Democrats’ new $106 Billion war funding bill, after it was sent back to the House from the conference committee. (The bill passed Tuesday evening.):

Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong opposition to this conference report on the War Supplemental Appropriations. I wonder what happened to all of my colleagues who said they were opposed to the ongoing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. I wonder what happened to my colleagues who voted with me as I opposed every war supplemental request under the previous administration. It seems, with very few exceptions, they have changed their position on the war now that the White House has changed hands. I find this troubling. As I have said while opposing previous war funding requests, a vote to fund the war is a vote in favor of the war. Congress exercises its constitutional prerogatives through the power of the purse.

This conference report, being a Washington-style compromise, reflects one thing Congress agrees on: spending money we do not have. So this “compromise” bill spends 15 percent more than the president requested, which is $9 billion more than in the original House bill and $14.6 billion more than the original Senate version. Included in this final version — in addition to the $106 billion to continue the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq — is a $108 billion loan guarantee to the International Monetary Fund, allowing that destructive organization to continue spending taxpayer money to prop up corrupt elites and promote harmful economic policies overseas.

As Americans struggle through the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression, this emergency supplemental appropriations bill sends billions of dollars overseas as foreign aid. Included in this appropriation is $660 million for Gaza, $555 million for Israel, $310 million for Egypt, $300 million for Jordan, and $420 million for Mexico. Some $889 million will be sent to the United Nations for “peacekeeping” missions. Almost one billion dollars will be sent overseas to address the global financial crisis outside our borders and nearly $8 billion will be spent to address a “potential pandemic flu.”

Mr. Speaker, I continue to believe that the best way to support our troops is to bring them home from Iraq and Afghanistan. If one looks at the original authorization for the use of force in Afghanistan, it is clear that the ongoing and expanding nation-building mission there has nothing to do with our goal of capturing and bringing to justice those who attacked the United States on September 11, 2001. Our continued presence in Iraq and Afghanistan does not make us safer at home, but in fact it undermines our national security. I urge my colleagues to defeat this reckless conference report.

Traveler June 17, 2009 at 9:41 am

[re=340479]DangerousLiberal[/re]: Or replaces the GOP with the Know-Nothing party?

Like this would be a difference of any great note.

orange June 17, 2009 at 10:40 am

[re=340652]Paulite[/re]: do you really “LOL” when you type it? that may be indicative of a deeper problem.

also, no, not mad. haz power.

Paulite June 17, 2009 at 10:49 am

Orange: do you really “LOL” when you type it? that may be indicative of a deeper problem.

Yes I do LOL
Yes, you might be right, I need to get out of the basement more often and stop eating Cheetos LOL

nappyduggs June 17, 2009 at 10:55 am

Wow, kids. WOW.

Don Juanquete June 17, 2009 at 11:34 am

Uh, Von Brunn was a Paultard. No one said it. Or if they did, they got banned.

Paulite June 17, 2009 at 12:57 pm

Don Juanquete: Uh, Von Brunn was a Paultard. No one said it. Or if they did, they got banned.

That’s a cheap shot, because YOU know he is a Nazi, a collectivist, he believes in the Nany state.
Do some reading in order to understand what libertarians stand for.
For your info, the founding fathers were libertarians, would you call them Nazis?

Barrett808 June 17, 2009 at 1:42 pm

Randroid…cannot…disengage…

GreatOldOnesParty June 17, 2009 at 1:43 pm

[re=340652]Paulite[/re]: Mad?
THIS IS WONKETTE!!!!1

LittlePig June 17, 2009 at 1:54 pm

the founding fathers were libertarians

They also dueled and killed one another. You give me the right to shoot some sumbitches, and we’ll talk. Otherwise all your codswallop is simply a justification to create a police state for the concentration of wealth. I find theft immoral, whether at the point of a gun or not. Libertarians of your stripe are only opposed to the former.

Mad Farmer Manifest June 17, 2009 at 1:55 pm

[re=340952]Paulite[/re]: Still waiting for a response… (see [re=340513]Mad Farmer Manifest[/re]). I thought you came here to debate, but you are just throwing turds. If Dr. Paul is so morally consistent, why has he stayed in the morally bankrupt Republican party?

LittlePig June 17, 2009 at 1:58 pm

That smarmy ass LOL and smiley face shit is annoying as hell, too.

I guess it’s good the Asperger’s crowd has their own political movement, though. Otherwise they might effectively organize and do something more substantial than elect one batshit-crazy racist from Deepinthaharta, Texas.

Barrett808 June 17, 2009 at 2:09 pm

[re=341107]LittlePig[/re]: “That smarmy ass LOL and smiley face shit is annoying as hell, too.”

That’s called being a “concern troll.”

GreatOldOnesParty June 17, 2009 at 3:14 pm

[re=340952]Paulite[/re]: Nice reverse-Godwin!
You’ve taken intellectual dishonesty to a whole new level.
The founding fathers weren’t infallible so stop worshipping them
and reinterpreting their values to coincide with your own.
That’s called Revisionism.
The Founding Fathers were Christian patriots!
The founding fathers were deistic libertarians!
The founding fathers were That-Which-Shall-Not-Be-Named worshipping Technocrats!
See how easy this is?

Paulite June 17, 2009 at 3:21 pm

Mad Farmer Manifest: If Dr. Paul is so morally consistent, why has he stayed in the morally bankrupt Republican party?

Because the two parties, Donkey and Monkey, are the same, it is indeed one party. The latest elections should confirm that to you if you belong to those who never care about history. Did anything change in washington? Yes, the tone only, but the bad policies, the banckrupting of this country, the plundering of the people, the shredding of the constitution and the wars are still going on.

Dr. Paul figured out that the Monkeys, the neo-cons party, is the easiest to hijack and restore since it was traditionally the party of the people.

Paulite June 17, 2009 at 3:28 pm

Guys, while you are teasing me, please pick up the phone and contact your representative and ask them to co-sponsor the following bills: (There is noway in hell we could disagree on this)
http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-06-17/ron-pauls-bill-to-audit-the-federal-reserve-now-has-232-co-sponsors/

Pleeeeeeeease, it’s a matter of minutes, you’ll feel great after that, I promess ;)

glamourdammerung June 17, 2009 at 3:33 pm

[re=340952]Paulite[/re]: “Do some reading in order to understand what libertarians stand for.”

Alright, explain Paul’s stance on banning gay marriage and how it does not contradict the bullshit you have been spewing.

Paulite June 17, 2009 at 3:50 pm

glamourdammerung: Alright, explain Paul’s stance on banning gay marriage and how it does not contradict the bullshit you have been spewing

That’s not true, didn’t you know it? Just google it.

Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul’s libertarian roots came out full force during an interview with ABC’s 20/20. Rather than taking a direct stand against gay marriage, the Texan expressed tacit approval of state-based marriages, but insisted he thinks the traditional institution should stay in the church:

John Stossel: Homosexuality. Should gays be allowed to marry?

Ron Paul: Sure.

Stossel: The State says, we will believe in this?

Paul: Sure they can do whatever they want and they can call it whatever they want , just so they don’t expect to impose their relationship on somebody else. They can’t make me, personally, accept what they do, but they gay couples can do whatever they want. In fact, I’d like to see all governments out of the marriage question. I don’t think it’s a state function. I think it’s a religious function. There was a time when only churches dealt with marriage, and they determined what it was. But 100 years or so ago for health reasons they claim that the state would protect us if we knew more about our spouses and we did health testing and you had to get a license to get married and I don’t agree with that.

Paulite June 17, 2009 at 3:51 pm

Here is more for you, actually he voted AGAINST such bills:

The Federal Marriage Amendment Is a Very Bad Idea

by Rep. Ron Paul, MD
by Rep. Ron Paul, MD

Mr. Speaker, while I oppose federal efforts to redefine marriage as something other than a union between one man and one woman, I do not believe a constitutional amendment is either a necessary or proper way to defend marriage.

While marriage is licensed and otherwise regulated by the states, government did not create the institution of marriage. In fact, the institution of marriage most likely pre-dates the institution of government! Government regulation of marriage is based on state recognition of the practices and customs formulated by private individuals interacting in civil society. Many people associate their wedding day with completing the rituals and other requirements of their faith, thus being joined in the eyes of their church and their creator, not with receiving their marriage license, thus being joined in the eyes of the state.

If I were in Congress in 1996, I would have voted for the Defense of Marriage Act, which used Congress’s constitutional authority to define what official state documents other states have to recognize under the Full Faith and Credit Clause, to ensure that no state would be forced to recognize a “same sex” marriage license issued in another state. This Congress, I was an original cosponsor of the Marriage Protection Act, HR 3313, that removes challenges to the Defense of Marriage Act from federal courts’ jurisdiction. If I were a member of the Texas legislature, I would do all I could to oppose any attempt by rogue judges to impose a new definition of marriage on the people of my state.

Having studied this issue and consulted with leading legal scholars, including an attorney who helped defend the Boy Scouts against attempts to force the organization to allow gay men to serve as scoutmasters, I am convinced that both the Defense of Marriage Act and the Marriage Protection Act can survive legal challenges and ensure that no state is forced by a federal court’s or another state’s actions to recognize same sex marriage. Therefore, while I am sympathetic to those who feel only a constitutional amendment will sufficiently address this issue, I respectfully disagree. I also am concerned that the proposed amendment, by telling the individual states how their state constitutions are to be interpreted, is a major usurpation of the states’ power. The division of power between the federal government and the states is one of the virtues of the American political system. Altering that balance endangers self-government and individual liberty. However, if federal judges wrongly interfere and attempt to compel a state to recognize the marriage licenses of another state, that would be the proper time for me to consider new legislative or constitutional approaches.

Conservatives in particular should be leery of anything that increases federal power, since centralized government power is traditionally the enemy of conservative values. I agree with the assessment of former Congressman Bob Barr, who authored the Defense of Marriage Act:

“The very fact that the FMA [Federal Marriage Amendment] was introduced said that conservatives believed it was okay to amend the Constitution to take power from the states and give it to Washington. That is hardly a basic principle of conservatism as we used to know it. It is entirely likely the left will boomerang that assertion into a future proposed amendment that would weaken gun rights or mandate income redistribution.”

Passing a constitutional amendment is a long, drawn-out process. The fact that the marriage amendment already failed to gather the necessary two-thirds support in the Senate means that, even if two-thirds of House members support the amendment, it will not be sent to states for ratification this year. Even if the amendment gathers the necessary two-thirds support in both houses of Congress, it still must go through the time-consuming process of state ratification. This process requires three-quarters of the state legislatures to approve the amendment before it can become effective. Those who believe that immediate action to protect the traditional definition of marriage is necessary should consider that the Equal Rights Amendment easily passed both houses of Congress and was quickly ratified by a number of states. Yet, that amendment remains unratified today. Proponents of this marriage amendment should also consider that efforts to amend the Constitution to address flag burning and require the federal government to balance the budget have been ongoing for years, without any success.

Ironically, liberal social engineers who wish to use federal government power to redefine marriage will be able to point to the constitutional marriage amendment as proof that the definition of marriage is indeed a federal matter! I am unwilling either to cede to federal courts the authority to redefine marriage, or to deny a state’s ability to preserve the traditional definition of marriage. Instead, I believe it is time for Congress and state legislatures to reassert their authority by refusing to enforce judicial usurpations of power.

In contrast to a constitutional amendment, the Marriage Protection Act requires only a majority vote of both houses of Congress and the president’s signature to become law. The bill already has passed the House of Representatives; at least 51 senators would vote for it; and the president would sign this legislation given his commitment to protecting the traditional definition of marriage. Therefore, those who believe Congress needs to take immediate action to protect marriage this year should focus on passing the Marriage Protection Act.

Because of the dangers to liberty and traditional values posed by the unexpected consequences of amending the Constitution to strip power from the states and the people and further empower Washington, I cannot in good conscience support the marriage amendment to the United States Constitution. Instead, I plan to continue working to enact the Marriage Protection Act and protect each state’s right not to be forced to recognize a same sex marriage.

October 1, 2004

glamourdammerung June 17, 2009 at 4:00 pm

So who is the Ron Paul (R-Texas 14) that said “Americans understandably fear that if gay marriage is legalized in one state, all other states will be forced to accept such marriages” as well as supported the “Defense of Marriage Act” and sponsored the “Marriage Protection Act of 2007″. Because they are going around saying things that make the Ron Paul you are prosthetizing over here sound like a real hypocrite.

glamourdammerung June 17, 2009 at 4:01 pm

But I suppose it is easier to cut and paste to “disprove” the many issues with why Ron Paul is such a lousy pick for anything above city dogcatcher than to actually read or educate themself.

Barrett808 June 17, 2009 at 5:14 pm

[re=341271]Paulite[/re]: “In fact, I’d like to see all governments out of the marriage question. I don’t think it’s a state function. I think it’s a religious function.”

Of course, why would the State be interested in the orderly transfer of wealth from one partner to the other?

DalesEvilTwin June 17, 2009 at 5:46 pm

Ahh look the little shit flingers don’t like dirty words like liberty, freedom, personal responsibility…you little shit eating sheep want the fuzzy wuzzy government to wipe your ass and take care of you from cradle to grave… Marriage isn’t a government institution, it is between two people, and God if they so choose. As you chickenheads plot your next “virtual war move” the UN is trying to take your water sources, your land, and your children to fight their wars. The Federal Government is helping them by also trying to claim rights to ALL water and land in our country..Want to bitch about democrats and republicans? Doesn’t make a fucking difference because they are both being led by the nose by the CFR..you know the council of foreign relations?..no you probably don’t know do you…go back to watching your american idol and flinging shit at all who are different from you, while your country goes to shit because you were to fucking stupid to do some research and see the federal government for what it is worth..

The fact that any kind of protesting is now considered “low level terrorism” should scare the hell out of you..but then you douchebags aren’t about to stand up for what is right are you..just sit on here talking big shit when your not busy playing in lala land on world of warcraft of some other fake shit…See we my friends live in the real world but you little nutsuckers couldn’t handle it.

Ever care to stand up for yourself and protest..you are in our country the great FREE Amerika a friggin terrorist…check it out for yourself..maybe some day you will wake the fuck up and get off your bitching asses and stand up for something other than a donut.

protest = Terrorism… documentation here.. http://open.salon.com/blog/dennis_loo/2009/06/14/dod_training_manual_protests_are_low-level_terrorism

JUNE 14, 2009 7:35PM
DoD Training Manual: Protests are “Low-Level Terrorism”

The Department of Defense is training all of its personnel in its current Antiterrorism and Force Protection Annual Refresher Training Course that political protest is “low-level terrorism.”

The Training introduction reads as follows:

“Anti-terrorism (AT) and Force Protection (FP) are two facets of the Department of Defense (DoD) Mission Assurance Program. It is DoD policy, as found in DoDI 2000.16, that the DoD Components and the DoD elements and personnel shall be protected from terrorist acts through a high pirority, comprehensive, AT program. The DoD’s AT program shall be all encompassing using an integrated systems approach.”

The first question of the Terrorism Threat Factors, “Knowledge Check 1″ section reads as follows:

Which of the following is an example of low-level terrorism activity?

Select the correct answer and then click Check Your Answer.

O Attacking the Pentagon

O IEDs

O Hate crimes against racial groups

O Protests

***

The “correct” answer is Protests.

A copy of this can be found on the last two pages of this pdf.

The ACLU learned of this training and on June 10, 2009 sent a letter to the Gail McGinn, Acting Under-Secretary of Defense for Personnel and Readiness, objecting to their training all DoD personnel that the exercise of First Amendment rights constitutes “low-level terrorism.”

For those who have worried about a trend – evident, for example, in the USA PATRIOT Act, the universal and ongoing government surveillance of all of Americans’ electronic communications that began in February of 2001 (seven months before 9/11), the global war on a tactic (terrorism), therefore making this war unending, the unprecedented pre-emptive arrests of protestors at the 2008 Republican National Convention with those protesters being charged as “domestic terrorists,” the justifications for torture, pre-emptive wars of aggression, ongoing occupations, American gulags such as Bagram, suspension of habeas corpus, and “prolonged detention” for acts someone might commit, not what they have done, FBI et al infiltration of protest groups and the government’s acknowledged use of undercover agents (agents provocateurs) in said infiltration, thus giving the government under the rubric of fighting domestic terrorism unrestrained and unsupervisable power to suppress legitimate political activities, the unleashing and justifications for Christian fascists to murder those they do not like (such as the assassination of Dr. George Tiller and the killing at the Holocaust Museum a few days ago) – this news adds further fuel to the fire.

These are not items from some famously vilified, non-US dictatorial regime. These are items from the good ole USA, land of the free and home of the brave.

Just how brave are we now? How free are we still? Are we brave enough to be “winter soldiers” and stand up against these fascist moves? Or will we go down in history in infamy, the way the “Good Germans” of the 1930s and 1940s did?

Barrett808 June 17, 2009 at 5:54 pm

[re=341503]DalesEvilTwin[/re]: Dale/Twin, if you’re only now worried about civil liberties in America, you’re more than a little late to the party.

IED WONK June 17, 2009 at 6:17 pm

LOL! If this is all that Wonkette has, then I am FUCKING NOT IMPRESSED.

Nothin’ but big talk from a bunch of shitty anons.

Mad Farmer Manifest June 17, 2009 at 6:51 pm

[re=341223]Paulite[/re]: That’s a shitty answer. The Republicans spent the last 8 years systematically dismantling the Consitution, and all you can say is that he thought he could hijack the party. He better do it now, or there won’t be anything left.

Furthermore, you never answered to my original points. I agree that a repressive state is a bad thing. What about corporate hegemony in the name of “free-markets”? What about the quiet violence of pollution and environmental degradation? The purpose of government in libertarian philosophy is to protect the people. Why doesn’t Ron Paul show any interest in protecting the people from these threats? I consider myself a libertarian, but starving, ignorant, sick people are not free. Not at all. If it isn’t the government’s role to protect the people from the depradations of the greedy and the violent, what is the purpose of government?

LittlePig June 17, 2009 at 8:07 pm

[re=341549]IED WONK[/re]: Dude

a) it’s a humor site,

and

b) even so, all you guys do is validate your own assumptions, saying things like “the founding fathers were libertarians”, which is only true for sufficiently fuzzy definitions of “libertarian”. The founding fathers were much less concerned with force issues (e.g. duels, as I noted above) and were not big fans of the only real corporate entity they had to deal with (the British West India Company). Now that corporate citizens have more rights than actual human ones, I doubt the Founding Fathers would be all that pro-corporate.

I still haven’t seen proof that libertarians understand there is no asphault fairy, much less how sewage systems and power grids are supposed to just appear organically in this utopian paradise.

Given the choice between paying taxes and living in a society that will effectively be like Prohibition-era Chicago, I’ll pay my taxes, thanks. If you don’t like America (and you don’t, as real-life America never looked anything like your dreams, except for cases like Chicago above), move to Somalia and make your way up the corporate (aka warlord) ladder there.

LittlePig June 17, 2009 at 8:13 pm

These Paultards love their copypasta, don’t they?

Don Juanquete June 18, 2009 at 3:11 am

[re=341615]LittlePig[/re]: I also dropped by to see if they were still at it, now that the thread is 48 hrs old. Cut & Paste: Everything a Paultard does best was learned in Kindergarten!!

nader paul kucinich gravel June 18, 2009 at 5:36 am

Brothers and Sisters!
I wanna see a sea of hands out there
Let me see a sea of hands
I want everybody to kick up some water
I wanna hear some revolution out there brothers
I wanna hear a little revolution

Brothers and sisters
The time has come for each and every one of you to decide
Whether you are gonna be the problem
Or whether you are gonna be the solution
[That's right]
You must choose brothers
You must choose

It take five seconds
Five seconds of decision
Five seconds to realize your purpose here on the planet
It take five seconds to realize that it’s time to move
It’s time to get down with it

Brothers it’s time to testify and I want to know
Are you ready to testify?!
Are you ready?!

I give you a testimonial
The MC5!

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