ONE OR THE OTHER  4:15 pm June 15, 2009

Marty Peretz Has Instinctual Knowledge Of Reasons Behind Unconfirmed Firing

by Jim Newell

New Republic editor-in-chief Marty Peretz, known for his colorful view (complete hatred) of Arabs, read in an Israeli newspaper that Dennis Ross was being replaced as “Iran Czar” or whatever. Granted the State Department has denied this news report, and Dennis Ross never even held the position Peretz claims he did, but still, did Barack Obama do this because he’s an anti-Semite or a pussy or both?

The pants were definitely off when he wrote this:

The news that Dennis Ross, long time State Department strategist and peace processor, is being bounced as special envoy to Iran comes from an article by Barak Ravid in the reliable (at least on these matters) Ha’aretz. The story seems to assume that Ross was declared persona non grata by Tehran either because he was a Jew or because he believes that Iran should not be permitted to acquire nuclear weapons. If the Obama administration so readily capitulated to Dr. Ahmadinejad’s masters or minions, there’s another reason to be worried about its seriousness in this very serious encounter between antagonists. No, we are actually enemies.

Well, Dennis Ross was never “special envoy to Iran,” but maybe it was something like that. And a State Department spokesperson has denied the reports, saying Dennis Ross has everyone’s full confidence and is working hard, today, in his office. It may well be true that he is on his way out (to another wing of the government), and the administration wants to keep it under wraps for now.

But for Marty Peretz, the American government has fallen apart completely and that Hillary Clinton is terrible and these things were obvious all along, kill us all:

To have crumbled precisely while the regime of the ayatollahs is facing a real crisis of confidence at home and something of a challenge to its legitimacy abroad is, well, just that: crumbling. It certainly does not testify to American resilience, even diplomatically. My instinct here is that the president and Mrs. Clinton are so eager to engage–engage even for its own sake–that they’ll do anything to please the other. This does not come as a result of analysis. It is, I am sorry to say, a predicated formula.

I had an inkling of trouble a few weeks ago when The New Republic was negotiating to publish a small part of a new book, Myths, Illusions and Peace: Finding a New Direction for America in the Middle East, which Ross co-wrote with David Makovsky. Yes, the text of the book raises the possibility of a strike of last resort against Iran’s nuclear installations. In any event, the State Department wouldn’t give its approval. And you now know why. Or do you? I believe it’s because the administration has given up the military option.

“Ten bucks says I’m right.”

Dennis Ross, Out As Special Envoy To Iran; Was He Ousted Because He’s A Jew Or A Bit Hawkish On Nukes? [TNR]

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NotthatLC June 15, 2009 at 4:18 pm

Oh, yeah, it’s ’cause Obama hates jews. Christ, these people are jackasses.

mcc June 15, 2009 at 4:19 pm

Barack Obama used his time machine to remove Dennis Ross from his position, retroactively, *before Ross was even nominated*. Such is the depth of Obama’s treachery.

SayItWithWookies June 15, 2009 at 4:21 pm

And don’t get Obama started on black people either.

Min June 15, 2009 at 4:23 pm

Why are these assholes so eager to get us involved in another war in the Middle East?

ManchuCandidate June 15, 2009 at 4:24 pm

The reason why Marty’s upset is because he wanted the US (as Israel’s pet, er, ally) to destroy Iran before Iran’s rigged election and subsequent rioting did.

Tommmcatt June 15, 2009 at 4:27 pm


You go with what you know in that crowd.

jagorev June 15, 2009 at 4:27 pm

This does not come as a result of analysis.

Marty Peretz should put that line at the end of everything he writes.

user-of-owls June 15, 2009 at 4:27 pm

Marty Peretz: Triumph of the Shrill.

charlesdegoal June 15, 2009 at 4:28 pm

Love it: “My instinct here is that the president and Mrs. Clinton are so eager to engage–engage even for its own sake–that they’ll do anything to please the other. This does not come as a result of analysis. It is, I am sorry to say, a predicated formula.”
The president and Mrs. Clinton? Doing anything to please the other? Which president is he talking about? Barack and Hillary are now an item, going ‘engage-engage’ with each other?
Or is this Bill and Hilary and are they back together?
Indeed, no analysis, just a predictable formula.

4tehlulz June 15, 2009 at 4:28 pm

How ironic that Marty Peretz, chickenhawk extraordinaire, has a column called “The Spine.”

Utile June 15, 2009 at 4:28 pm

The real question is whether the crystal balls into which Peretz thoughtfully consults for the everlasting edification of America as he writes, I say the REAL question is, ARE THEY RESTING ON HIS CHIN OR ARE THEY NESTLED BETWEEN HIS LIPS? And are they kosher?

octupletsmom June 15, 2009 at 4:29 pm

The New Republic is worser than Twitter. Sad comedown for what used to be a fine institution. But they blow. The End.

hobospacejunkie June 15, 2009 at 4:30 pm

We are actually enemies. Well, that’s a good starting point for negotiations. And he was “bounced” because he’s a Jew. Paranoia is always helpful. I believe it’s because the administration has given up the military option. Oh no, not that! How could it be? We have such a huge, bored-with-nothing-to-do military as it is, might as well stoke the fires of war with Iran. Good things always come in threes!

Here is where a few limits on free speech might come in handy. Encouraging murder, encouraging war, I could be persuaded that speech by retarded anus clowns should not be protected.

Utile June 15, 2009 at 4:31 pm

[re=339133]Utile[/re]: Uh sorry, “…the cryatal balls WHICH Peretz…” God I hate tryin to post from my phone.

Lord Growing June 15, 2009 at 4:33 pm

[re=339132]4tehlulz[/re]: He wanted to call it The Penis, but someone talked him into going with the anagram.

queeraselvis v 2.0 June 15, 2009 at 4:35 pm

Jeez. Somebody forgot to put on their big girl panties this morning.

lawrenceofthedesert June 15, 2009 at 4:35 pm

Interesting contract that Ross signed (according to Marty), giving up his First Amendment rights to the State Dept., which can stop publishing of his book excerpt as a result. (If Ross is out of State, per Peretz, what possible veto power could the Staters have over his writing?) Peretz’s piece reads suspiciously like Groucho dictating a letter to Jamison. Maybe he should have taken out another Hoongedunger.

The Lucky Republican June 15, 2009 at 4:36 pm

You go to war with the bloggers you have, not the bloggers you wish you had.

jagorev June 15, 2009 at 4:43 pm

[re=339137]octupletsmom[/re]: Marty Peretz has run TNR for 35 years now. It’s always been (and continues to be) a pretty good magazine in spite of the fact that it’s run by one crazy Arab-hating motherf*cker.

chascates June 15, 2009 at 4:49 pm

God, these Israel Goblins cannot wait for an attack on Iran! I think they wanted Amandinejan to win. The Sunday NY Times said Israel’s Avigdor Lieberman was cozying up to Putin. That’s great. Russia can take the heat from now on.

Mr Blifil June 15, 2009 at 4:51 pm


Speed Ball June 15, 2009 at 4:53 pm

They are so eager to engage, engage even for its own sake…”

Is he talking about Trig?

GDTRFB June 15, 2009 at 5:00 pm

hmmm, if you think regular republicans are feeling lonely and “fring-ey” these days, the jewish republicans must be feeling way, way more isolated and threatened. A tiny minority in a party that has driven out all the other minorities! Fertile ground for some real batshit-crazy ideas.

Extemporanus June 15, 2009 at 5:04 pm

Wait, Jews bounce!? I guess I need to pump mine up some more.

Woodwards Friend June 15, 2009 at 5:05 pm

According to Andrew Sullivan, Peretz was also yammering on about how “Dr. Ahmadinejad” (I knew H.L. Mencken and you sir are no H.L. Mencken) clearly won the election fair and square because if it had been rigged then…wait for it…Ahmadinejad would have won with 99% of the vote. That makes perfect sense if you are a douchewipe like Marty Peretz.

user-of-owls June 15, 2009 at 5:06 pm

[re=339160]chascates[/re]: Avigdor Lieberman was cozying up to Putin.

Yeah, because cozying up to Russian strongmen has always worked out well for Jews.

S.Luggo June 15, 2009 at 5:14 pm

Marteleh, if Ross is out it’s because once you stop looking good in a tight, red-spangle dress, it’s time to turn in your white opera gloves and spike heel shoes.

FWIW: Dennis is “Special Advisor for the Gulf and Southwest Asia for the Secretary of State”, not envoy for Iranistan. In fact, there is NO envoy for IslamoTerristan, Marty. The Repugs wouldn’t hear of such peacefag-surrender-pandering by the Dems.
So go back to your job creating the daily Word Jumble for The Jerusalem Post, little Miss P.

Lionel Hutz Esq. June 15, 2009 at 5:22 pm

All I want to know is does this mean that the Rev. Wright can talk to Obama now?

thefrontpage June 15, 2009 at 5:22 pm

Who is “Marty Peretz” and what is “The New Republic?”

LittlePig June 15, 2009 at 5:22 pm

“The Spine”, huh? Well well well.

So I guess “The Chickenshit” was already taken?

Not_So_Much June 15, 2009 at 6:02 pm

[re=339163]Mr Blifil[/re]: Actually, I think that’s pronounced “JA-HOOOOOOOEEEWWW!”

Otherwise, Marty’s logic is really well thought out and unassailable.

What a pant-load…

lawchic June 15, 2009 at 6:48 pm

Well, TIME is reporting that Dennis Ross may be leaving State but will move to NSC as a “senior advisor” with a “expanded portfolio” So I guess Marty was right. Obama hates “the Jews” so much that he fake fires them and then…throws them under the bus by giving them “expanded” responsibilities and possibly a higher profile….Damn your jew hatery Obama!!!

Min June 15, 2009 at 7:10 pm

[re=339207]LittlePig[/re]: I’m thinking it’s more along the lines of those poisonous pricks you encounter in the ocean.

Lionel Hutz Esq. June 15, 2009 at 10:28 pm

[re=339206]thefrontpage[/re]: I’m pretty sure he was the guy that asked Ms. California to opposite marry him.

GreenHalo June 16, 2009 at 7:03 am

I love the smell of Gotterdammerung in the morning. Smells like… South Africa. Sorry, if your Jewish homeland of refuge and safety is bleeding knowledge workers and the young and mobile to RUSSIA and GERMANY, you are a platinum metric unit of EPIC FAIL sealed in xenon, in a glass case, in a museum in Paris somewhere. Ur doin it rong!

In a hundred years a strangely-shaped German-speaking country will be hammering on an oddly-proportioned Russian-speaking country (in Poland, as always), and an oddly-shaped third world Arab shithole will have a national capital in Jersalem and six political parties firing rockets at each other in Parliament. And the decendents of Peretz and Kristol will be able to talk about Hitler and pogroms all they want, and nobody will be able to say “bullshit exaggeration.” WIN!

I think that may actually be the long-range plan. Anybody have a better idea what the hell they’re working toward?

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