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DRUGS, ROCK & BARACK OBAMA: R.U. Sirius, longtime chronicler of and participant in the Cyberpunk-Counterculture Wars, has a new book about rock artists on dope called Everybody Must Get Stoned. And your Wonkette editor interviewed R.U. about these important topics, including how high Barack Obama used to get, back in the day. [True/Slant Part I/Part II]
The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done.
Rimbaud did it all before he was twenty, so what’s the point? The only true innovation since then was Norman Mailer discovering the joy of getting stoned and watching the teevee, sometime in the mid-fifties.
I’m going to go fill my bong with tears.
TL,DR.
Haha, JK. It was fun and interesting to an old guy like me. I’m going to play my Jim Carrol album now. I have it on vinyl somewhere…
“I must admit I never checked the fellow’s creds. Back in my Mondo 2000 days, I thought that fact checks — like sound checks for a punk band — were for wankers.”
The Faux News Creedo
Interesting read, Ken. I expected a silly druggie expose book discussion but was pleasantly surprised to find the whole druggie thing treated as just a topic of conversation. No “oh my god, these guys took so many drugs they were awesome” and yet also no “these guys took so many drugs they were horrible,” either. Just an interesting discussion about what counts as counterculture anymore. I guess my appetite for counterculture books was ruined by that Doors abomination by Danny Sugerman I read as a teenager, but I could almost see myself reading Everybody Must Get Stoned.Almost. I’d still rather read about Germans’ experiences of being firebombed in WW2 or the origins of Indo-European, but at least now I know not all supposedly counterculture books are celebrations of idiotic excess.
As one with his own disturbing history of excess, I’m not so sure that drug education is all that’s needed. Would wine-tasting courses save the drunks? Information is not something we really lacked back then, although I will admit that ignorance is far too easily available.
From Billie Holiday to Jimmy Hendrix, there’s been no success like failure and failure’s been no success at all.
The government must come in and socialize dope dealing. I’ve been waiting 2 days for my ‘delivery’ the current ‘logistics firms’ responsible for servicing my needs are unreliable and to not meet my inherent Service Level requirements. How are we supposed to be stoned all the time when we dealers can’t deliver, on-time, on-budget? (or more correctly don’t smoke half your shit before it gets to you)
Jimi. Sorry. Must be the sequels.
Better to die from drugs than by suffocation from ropes around your genitals Grasshopper.
The odd man out in Rock History, in so many ways, is Frank Zappa.
Not a stoner, believe it or don’t.
So, is anyone here holding?
Better to discuss drugs than not. Better to take drugs than to discuss them.
gurukalehuru:
A true legend. He was extremely intelligent. I still admire his knack of offending people by giving them the unpopular truth.
Zappa was really a Classical musician, not a rocker. He could read music! His heroes were Stravinsky and Berg! Not that lots of classical musicians weren’t debauched stoners, either….
Zhu Bajie
No winners yesterday — Wonkette commenters FAIL the AFTERNOON.
the sunshineyour lifestyle bores the daylights out of me…/fix
gurukalehuru: Not a stoner, but he came from Baltimore, so that’s almost the same.
Hey Ken, nice Keef pic/reference, it’s one of his best songs.
zhubajie: Not to mention (as he so often did) Varese. And in the later part of his life Conlon Nancarrow, with the Synclavier as his player pianos, and doo wop for boogie woogie.
But he was a rocker when he wrote songs about buttsecs and eating yellow snow and other infantile stuff.
Hey Ken. Let us know when you figure out how to educate the OHV meth fiends in the Mojave. I’d like to apply the method to parts of rural Washington and Oregon. Even if it requires a flamethrower and maniacal laughter.
You people are coming dangerously close to citing obscure Zappa lyrics. I see a banhammer in someone’s future.
bitchincamaro: Well who died and made you Central Scrutinizer?
Damn, these 20 comments alone are enough to scare me sober. Wtf happened to Wonkette commenters. Did we switch from uppers to downers? The whole point of the speedball, kids, is to mix & match! Someone needs to confiscate your barbiturates. It’s like Jezebel on Prozac up in here. Shiiiiit.
Help, I’m a rock!
First rule of drug club:
Nobody talks about drug club.
bitchincamaro: do you know what you look like inside? it’s incredible.
A girl don’t need
No fancy grease
To get herself
Some rump release
(TOTALLY ON TOPIC AS RELATES TO BUTTSMEX KTHX)