AIN'T WASN'T NONE SLAVES HERE  2:16 pm January 28, 2009

Arkansas Legislature Votes Down Resolution Congratulating Obama

by Jim Newell

It seems that racists still haven’t gotten over Barack Obama’s election victory, alas. For example: Arkansas. The Arkansas House Committee on State Agencies and Governmental Affairs rejected a standard symbolic resolution congratulating Barack Obama on his historic victory this morning, 11-6, after a couple of Republicans took issue with language describing “the United States as a nation founded by slaveowners.” Oh my god.

The debate centered on competing historical viewpoints. Flowers argued that the language was not meant to be offensive, and that anyone who found it so didn’t have a clear understanding of the history of the nation and the role slavery played.

Greenburg and Garner countered that while slavery was a terrible part of the country’s history, to suggest that all the founding fathers were slaveowners and that the country was founded on the institution of slavery, while ignoring those who fought slavery from the beginning, was not accurate and potentially divisive.

Where to even begin? Questions of historical accuracy aside, how is this language “potentially divisive” today? It might piss off the slaveowner lobby?

Resolution Congratulating Barack Obama Rejected In Committee [Arkansas Business]

 

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BillyClubb January 28, 2009 at 2:21 pm

What’s Hillary doing in this illustration? And why does she look so fine — is it the revealing halter top?

But anyway, this story is about Arkansas, and Hillary was the Senator from New York. Or should I say carpetbagging Senator from New York.

masterdebater January 28, 2009 at 2:22 pm

Who would have have expected this from a progressive state like Arkansas?

actor212 January 28, 2009 at 2:22 pm

Um, many of the Founders were slaveowners, so what’s the beef?

NotthatLC January 28, 2009 at 2:23 pm

Really, it is very hard to know where to start. How about that the White House, you know, the one Obams is currently living in, was BUILT BY SLAVE LABOR. Which no one really objected to at the time. Gah. Gah. And GAH! Also.

MarieDeGournay January 28, 2009 at 2:23 pm

Idiots. I say again, idiots.

BigBrainOnBrad January 28, 2009 at 2:23 pm

Hilz looks like she’s chewing out the Harper Valley P.T.A in that picture.

Sassette January 28, 2009 at 2:26 pm

Well it’s about time someone is protecting those poor long-dead slaveowners from having their feelings hurt.

queeraselvis v 2.0 January 28, 2009 at 2:26 pm

Yea, um, Arkansas legislators… that huge ass ice storm that just finished pummeling y’all’s state? Payback’s a bitch, innit?

Colander January 28, 2009 at 2:27 pm

I mean, I get that some people were vocally opposed to slavery, and so Are-Kansas is giving them a shoutout, but didn’t those dudes have slaves anyway?

orbit222 January 28, 2009 at 2:28 pm

I don’t know who’s Kansas it is, but it ‘aint Ar Kansas.

ManchuCandidate January 28, 2009 at 2:29 pm

Based on the whole Repub “I legislate against the thing I love” meme, I’m guessing the folks are just a little touchy about slaveowning when there is a preznit in the White (!) House who would have been considered only 4/5 of a man in the “good” old days.

Finally, uh Greenburg? Dixiejews?

shortsshortsshorts January 28, 2009 at 2:30 pm

This country was founded on the backs of rich, white men.

Servo January 28, 2009 at 2:33 pm

[re=230825]BigBrainOnBrad[/re]:
Bill looks like he just had some Barbara Eden.

Tommmcatt January 28, 2009 at 2:33 pm

I’d be careful about offending the slaveowner lobby, Jim. You might not be subject to them, but the Federal Student Loan Commission and Visa hold the rights to my fat ass, so I’d appreciate it if you sucked up to them like everybody else.

Canmon (the Inadequate) January 28, 2009 at 2:34 pm

It might upset Obama since he is a descendant of slave owners:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/02/AR2007030200830.html

magic titty January 28, 2009 at 2:34 pm

Win for Newell on the “slaveowner lobby” line.

4tehlulz January 28, 2009 at 2:34 pm

>>It might piss off the slaveowner lobby?

Isn’t Wal-Mart based in Arkansas?

american mutt January 28, 2009 at 2:34 pm

I think they’re also trying to push an amendment to pull over obama and check if his car’s stolen whenever he enters teh state.

Miller January 28, 2009 at 2:35 pm

It violates the South’s long standing attempts to pretend that slavery never EVER happened. The Civil War was about states rights/northern aggression and the founding fathers ate sunshine and shit a better form of that sunshine. Blacks moved to the south because of the weather. THE WEATHER!

http://thesebastards.blogspot.com/

BillyClubb January 28, 2009 at 2:35 pm

[re=230835]shortsshortsshorts[/re]: Yeah, and I think teh gays got their start on the backs of rich, white men…

Texan Bulldoggette January 28, 2009 at 2:36 pm

Fuck Arkansas & Oklahoma. They’re dragging the US collective IQ & economy down. Let them secede & they can take north, east & west TX with them.

magic titty January 28, 2009 at 2:36 pm

When do you point out the ‘Arkansas Business’ oxymoron?

shanemacgowan January 28, 2009 at 2:38 pm

The Sec’y of State is lookin m-i-t-y fine.

GDTRFB January 28, 2009 at 2:39 pm

[re=230816]BillyClubb[/re]: I don’t konw what Hill is doing, but it sure looks like Bill’s puffin’ a bowl. Inhale brother. You’re from Harlem now.

ManchuCandidate January 28, 2009 at 2:39 pm

[re=230839]Canmon (the Inadequate)[/re]:
The most hilarious part of that article is that Al Sharpton’s ancestors were “owned” by Strom Thurmond’s ancestors. If Thurmond’s ancestors followed the trend of slave owners love of screwing the help then it might go a long ways to explaining Sharpton.

SayItWithWookies January 28, 2009 at 2:40 pm

Remember the slave reparations debate where its opponents said that nobody alive now was ever a slave? Well nobody alive now has owned slaves, so y’all shut up, ’cause you can’t have it both ways.

rev_matt_y January 28, 2009 at 2:41 pm

[re=230834]ManchuCandidate[/re]: 3/5ths.

magic titty January 28, 2009 at 2:41 pm

Our poor forefathers found jobs for a horde of lazy, out-of-work Negroes (and their pickaninnies), and this is the thanks they get?!?

ManchuCandidate January 28, 2009 at 2:44 pm

[re=230841]4tehlulz[/re]:
Why do you say that about Waldemort, US America’s Greatest Employer?

They pay decent wages… uh not really.

They have fine benefits… maybe not.

They certainly pay workers overtime… nope.

They will pay local taxes… fuck!

They certainly won’t buy goods from companies who use prison/slave labor… Oh, hi China Inc.

Maybe you have a point.

AxmxZ January 28, 2009 at 2:44 pm

[re=230839]Canmon (the Inadequate)[/re]: Every morning when Barry gets up to shave, his slaveowner half boos and hisses his black half, Gollum-style.

sarcasticusername January 28, 2009 at 2:44 pm

republicans objecting to facts…that sounds about right.

ManchuCandidate January 28, 2009 at 2:45 pm

[re=230859]rev_matt_y[/re]:
1/2 of a white woman + 1/2 of a black man once known as “3/5″ of a human.

Thus half black and half white = 4/5.

Ain’t math fun?

Delicious January 28, 2009 at 2:49 pm

Flowers? Gennifer? Sexytime?

ellie January 28, 2009 at 2:51 pm

Hahaha That photo reminds me of that SNL skit “Real Stories of the Arkansas Highway Patrol.” I couldn’t find a video, just a transcript: http://snltranscripts.jt.org/93/93spatrol.phtml.

Woodwards Friend January 28, 2009 at 2:53 pm

[re=230835]shortsshortsshorts[/re]: Well you didn’t see those “slaves” paying taxes for tea did you?

V572625694 January 28, 2009 at 2:56 pm

[re=230862]ManchuCandidate[/re]: Plus Wal*Mart has a cheap-ass health insurance program that is still expensive for many of their workers.

But then so do most employers.

Min January 28, 2009 at 2:56 pm

You know the best thing about this story? It wasn’t from Tennessee.

Uncommon Nonsense January 28, 2009 at 2:56 pm

[re=230859]rev_matt_y[/re]: I was thinking that, too, but then I realized:

Black father: 3/5 of a man
White mother: 5/5 of a man

Ergo, Obama would be 4/5.

Monsieur Grumpe January 28, 2009 at 2:56 pm

Maybe they could find a nice Hallmark card to send instead.
I think they should find some in the congratulations section that doesn’t mention slavery.

WadISay January 28, 2009 at 2:57 pm

The Flowers is one Stephanie Flowers. Wonder if she’s any relation to Jennifer Flowers, famous Clinton love-slave.

bitchincamaro January 28, 2009 at 2:59 pm

[re=230856]ManchuCandidate[/re]: Speaking of The Reverend Sharpton, one of my suppliers told me of a 30 foot tall sculpture created by his sister of the Portuguese queen (Princess Catherine who married King Charles) to be installed on the waterfront of the East River in NY. Despite the lack of historical evidence that Queens was named after Catherine, Sharpton had the stature destroyed due to the alleged slavery connection.

History lesson over. Sorry.

iwillsavethispatient January 28, 2009 at 3:02 pm

They’ll probably accept the new wording:
“Alabama sends congratulations to our new President, Barack Obama. It is truly an historic event for the occupant of the Whitehouse, once burnt down by the British, to be occupied by somebody who IS TECHNICALLY BRITISH. SHOW US YOUR REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE, NOBAMA!”

populucious January 28, 2009 at 3:04 pm

Look, what do you want from Arkansas? They gave us our FIRST black president after all, and we never made all this fuss over it, asking them to put out official resolutions and whatnot. Heck, history’s probably not even gonna give them credit for that. Dag nabbit!

gjdodger January 28, 2009 at 3:07 pm

[re=230848]magic titty[/re]: WalMart = World’s Biggest Retailer
Tyson = World’s Biggest Meat & Poultry Company
Arkansas is all bidness. We ain’t got time for common folk.

shortsshortsshorts January 28, 2009 at 3:13 pm

[re=230889]iwillsavethispatient[/re]: “Congratulations you Muslin shit-sack. Now cut taxes and increase spending like a good boy.”

magic titty January 28, 2009 at 3:13 pm

[re=230881]Min[/re]: Win.

totoro January 28, 2009 at 3:14 pm

I love the reference to those who “fought slavery from the beginning.” They must mean Massa J, whom all Virginia school children are taught “abhorred” the institution, even though it provided him with 24/7 tail. Which he seemed to rather enjoy despite his protests that the allure of white girls was, as he put it with characteristic eloquence, “preferable to that eternal monotony, which reigns in the countenances, that immoveable veil of black which covers all the emotions of the other race[.]” Maybe he meant to say it was not his fault he could not tell slaves were not enjoying being raped and beaten. All these noble FFs “fought slavery” just until the point they got hard.

twowheeljunkie January 28, 2009 at 3:14 pm

They are all products of Arkansas public schools. 43rd in spending

TGY January 28, 2009 at 3:20 pm

Oh noes, the Founding Fathers owned no slaves at all. Haha..no, really..BahAhahAhaa..would I lie? *snort*

irativ January 28, 2009 at 3:21 pm

[re=230816]BillyClubb[/re]: Please, Hillary is the Senator from Illinois before she grabbed her carpetbag. I have no idea how Blago didn’t figure that out, he could have appointed her to fill Barry’s seat and then when she went to work at State or whatever he could have appointed someone else. That would have been two “appointments” and we all know that he didn’t want anything in exchange for those, right? Heck he could have appointed Biden in the interim (since lord knows he doesn’t have anything else going on) and then he would have stepped down to be vice something-or-other and he gets three appointments (aka a new yacht).

stink, but January 28, 2009 at 3:24 pm

I would hesitate to use the term “slave-owners” when we could just maybe say “labor-borrowers.” It’s all about compromise.

Guppy06 January 28, 2009 at 3:26 pm

Adams? Jay? Paine? Would the South have accepted a number as low as 3/5 if there weren’t some pissed off Yankees they had to compromise with? Who cares if they don’t vote, the darkies should get some representation!

sati demise January 28, 2009 at 3:28 pm

[re=230841]4tehlulz[/re]: zing- oh snap mf’er walton….spot on.

problemwithcaring January 28, 2009 at 3:30 pm

[re=230839]Canmon (the Inadequate)[/re]: As a descendant of slaveholders, I too am offended. All masters didn’t force, blackmail, torture their female slaves into having sex with them; some of them used bribes.

Where’s the congratulatory resolution for non-raping slaveholders??

CivicHoliday January 28, 2009 at 3:31 pm

They’ll only vote yea on the resolution if Obama tapdances for them.

peachgirl January 28, 2009 at 3:34 pm

[re=230842]american mutt[/re]: No amendment necessary.

WhatTheHeck January 28, 2009 at 3:42 pm

Instead, they endorsed the following message to be sent: “The sherrif’s near.”

Cape Clod January 28, 2009 at 3:52 pm

I can’t wait until they get started on that big Alaska lake and drown all those dopes.

gliberal January 28, 2009 at 4:25 pm

Hilz be showin Monica how itz dun.

btwbfdimho January 28, 2009 at 4:28 pm

Here in Fort Worth, Texas, there was a “stock show and rodeo” last weekend, so lots of cowboys came to visit from other towns. The manager of a steakhouse told me he spent Sunday night cleaning up graffiti they left in the restroom, stuff like “I don’t want a negro in the White House”, “I don’t want a black president”, an Obama hanging from a tree, “kill the first negro”, etc. Scary.

chascates January 28, 2009 at 4:35 pm

“the United States as a nation founded by slaveowners because the Bible says it’s OK” would have passed.

2druk2phluq January 28, 2009 at 4:37 pm

There are still slave owners in Arkansas. It’s called the Arkansas Department of Corrections now. Black men are shanghaied into servitude based on the amount of money they can spend on a lawyer. The criminal justice system works as follows: For a black man to be charged with a crime is to be convicted of that crime. Once in the system their labor is free.

The State Representatives all benefit from the labor of the black slaves, because of programs in place to farm out the convicts. Not until the last good old boy Republican cock breath is buried in the ground will it be guaranteed that the broken criminal justice system can be fixed. The bigots hate all people who are different than them, color wise, sexually, religiously…
I won’t be happy until their tears never end. Everywhere, not just Arkansas.

Oops. I got real. That can be fixed:
First Publication Anywhere! It’s great you brought up this fantastic history of our Secretary of State’s private life with Bill “Horny Goat” Clinton. More people should know what life is really like in Arkansas. Had you posted the entire cover it would be clear to everyone that Bill’s mistress is right behind him on the step of the trailer.

agitpropster January 28, 2009 at 5:35 pm

[re=230975]btwbfdimho[/re]: I have a better one. I went on a film shoot to Wales last December with a Shepherd Fairey “HOPE” sticker on one of our production cases. It was intact until I transferred the case through Customs at Newark on the way back. When I got back to Austin, I saw all da peeps STARING at the case as it went around the carousel: some cretin had drawn a gunsight right through Hopey’s face. There’s no loser like a sore loser.

agitpropster January 28, 2009 at 5:45 pm

[re=230847]Texan Bulldoggette[/re]: Honey, Georgetown with it’s Klan Police Department and Williamson County drag down the collective IQ and economy more than Arkansas and Oklahoma combined. I think what you meant to say was “they can secede and take everything in Texas outside the Travis County line with them.” hehegh

ella January 28, 2009 at 5:52 pm

There’s a Greenburg in Arkansas???

Mr Blifil January 28, 2009 at 7:09 pm

Would it be asking too goddamn much to congratulate Biden?

Bruno January 28, 2009 at 7:13 pm

Well, DUH, this nation was founded not by slave owners but bible-thumping Indian killerz. Get your facts right.

historian January 28, 2009 at 7:19 pm

Ella, Rep Greenburg’s father, Paul Greenburg, won a Pulitzer for his civil rights reporting in the Pine Bluff Commercial…..how he had a son like Dan is a mystery.

hobospacejungle January 28, 2009 at 7:22 pm

[re=230839]Canmon (the Inadequate)[/re]: “It might upset Obama since he is a descendant of slave owners.”

With all the slave-rapin’ goin’ on down south back in the good ol’ days, I’d say pretty much every Africkan-American is a descendant of slave owners. Also.

picyou January 28, 2009 at 7:23 pm

Why the hell should Arkansas legislators complain about “a nation founded by slave owners”? Was there some guy from Arkansas involved in the founding of the U.S.? Enlighten me, please!

hopebong January 28, 2009 at 7:33 pm

Adams didn’t own slave. That’s gotta count for something.

TexasCowGirl January 28, 2009 at 7:59 pm

[re=231241]hobospacejungle[/re]: True.

This is not suprising. We know that the wingnuts don’t like facts, even historical facts. So a declaration stating facts of any kind would be highly offensive to them.

chascates January 28, 2009 at 8:22 pm

[re=231098]agitpropster[/re]: Agreed!

PAbitter January 28, 2009 at 10:16 pm

Obviously, no one pointed out to the good folks of Arkansas that those most opposed to slavery were probably Damnyankees?

“If you vote against this bill, you’re a Damnyankee lover!!!”

It would have passed 16-1

Suds McKenzie January 29, 2009 at 1:35 am

This is wonderful, I propose we have a debate with slave loving vs. slave hating states to decide this matter once and for all.

pfft..nah January 29, 2009 at 1:33 pm

You know, I’m sure a simple ‘good job’ would suffice for Obama. No need for a resolution or a run down of the history of the nation’s injustices. I would think saying ‘good job’ would be better, as opposed to saying ‘good job. there was a time when your ancestors were owned by our ancestors, and now look at you.’

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